f1-games

[heavy glacier]

@lofty cosmos f1 2020 was my first game

[lofty cosmos]

2011 was mine, but 2020 is my fav

[strange ridge]

The next gen of consoles in a few years times should try at least be able to download mods

[lofty cosmos]

Only reason I play f1 21 is cause of co op career

[heavy glacier]

i would ay 23 is my fav and will be my last for a long time

if ealon buys playstashion then we might be able to mod

[lofty cosmos]

I only played the 5h ea play demo, but I was blown away by the handling on controlled

I mean, I've got a wheel since then, but 23 felt awesome

[strange ridge]

I wonder if anyone tired to use mods on console

[heavy glacier]

the tihng with moddign f1 moment you do you cant paly online

ea thinks your cheatng and bans you

so on pc if you want to play online and mod you need 2 sets of files that you have to swap

withc is a total pain

[strange ridge]

I don’t have Xbox live so I’m good lmao

I just want to have custom liveries and do weird shit in career mode

[heavy glacier]

ya i do new livires each team msot years

same in f1 manager

but no mods for it rn

[lyric scaffold]

Thats why not joking Monoposto > F1 23

You can create liveries with an template

Is easy to do them

U can do the team u want

Full costumization

[restive mirage]

i js cooked

p1 in monaco

3rd fastest car, damaged wing, worn engine

1.9s gap behind to p2

[mortal scarab]

Blud is Daniel Ricciardo 🥶

[restive mirage]

(f1 2016)

i think im also max verstappen ngl

i took pole despite having a disgustinly unholy s2

[fluid mantle]

anyone feel like a co-op career?... i play on 74 difficulty

[restive mirage]

I WISH

ISTG

which game

23?

[fluid mantle]

yea bud

[restive mirage]

istg

i dont have f1 23

and i dont have ps+

i blame russell tbh

[fluid mantle]

It’s cheap on CDKeys

[pastel acorn]

anyone looking to do a coop career

[heavy glacier]

I was thinking that they would have mods for f1 23 manager by now

[safe geyser]

how to change team names in f1 2019?

[snow epoch]

idk if it exists for that game but i think you can use ego erp archiver

on PC tho

or idk what program

[gusty geyser]

Tried my best

[silver heron]

p3 as lamborghini and i collide with the wall giving me puncture

bruh

[rare seal]

How do I get the audi livery on F123?

[keen brook]

It was there from the launch already.

[rare seal]

Ok.

[woven pond]

Anyone down to do a bel gp later today if you are reply with what driver you want in f122

[winged girder]

Anyone else having problems with f1 23 crashing your whole system in the middle of career mode races?

[woven pond]

Also ngl they should tack mods to the f1 games

[narrow raven]

Is it just me or are the ai much faster in race pace than quali

Like in quali i can easily beat my teammate by a tenth but in the race hes a full second a lap faster

[snow epoch]

"OH THAT'S VERSTAPPEN! HE'S CRASHED IN TURN 3! AND HE'S OUT!"

[unkempt wind]

Is the AI straight line speed still an issue in F1 23 or have Codies fixed that for the new game?

[keen brook]

They've fixed it.

You can now even actually do overtakes on the straight.

With ERS and DRS you fly-past like you were the F1 22 AI.

So you don't need to do every overtake on the brakes anymore.

[narrow raven]

For me tho their race pace is so much faster than quali

It might be my setups

Whats a good site for them?

[edgy hull]

Need some tips to improve or are you good

[fathom garden]

final race of a perfect season

[faint grotto]

Hey, I dont know if this IS the place where i should ask help for a Glitch in F1 23 but i Will ask, if anybody can help me

The camera IS always like that and u dont know how to fix

It

[vapid garnet]

Can you take a picture of your camera settings?

[atomic pond]

LEWIS HAMILTION WINS AGAIN

Missed out on the win cuz underfueled 💀

how very frustrating

[keen brook]

Looks like an issue with the controller or wheel, whatever you use.

[faint grotto]

No its not, cuz It works perfectly on F1 22 and F1 2021

[keen brook]

Oh, then it's a weird bug.

If you try to move the camera to the exact other side but it goes back to that or to normal?

[junior kite]

what game and how do i install it

[mortal scarab]

Formula 1 Championship Edition (or F1 2006 for PS3),well probably download the game and run in a emulator or in a actual PS3

[junior kite]

awesome ty

[mortal scarab]

https://youtu.be/KKN6erghNt0

https://youtu.be/Frt-0zVhla4

[lyric scaffold]

Does anyone want to do a co-op carrer with me ??

[dim kite]

[mortal scarab]

🫣

[fluid mantle]

You find anyone?

[lyric scaffold]

No I'm playing the braking point rn

@fluid mantle

[teal remnant]

Should I buy f123

[lofty haven]

^^

[heavy shoal]

f123

[zenith pendant]

Anyone looking for someone to play with?

[amber vine]

@zenith pendant I’m down bro

[lyric scaffold]

Why is F1 Manager 23 so expensive

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

I mean it have some cool new features but it’s almost the same as last year

And its fucking more than R$200

[fossil vector]

I got 1.777 in Singapur

W or L

[fossil vector]

I can’t afford it either

😭

[lyric scaffold]

Time trial?

[lyric scaffold]

Its sad

[fossil vector]

Yuh

Im on Wheel, started half a month ago on wheel

I can easily improve it tho, I know sum corners where I fucked up

[lyric scaffold]

Idk if its an W

Bcz i dont play time trial

But probably

[lyric scaffold]

A W

[fossil vector]

Appreciate it

[hoary salmon]

@lyric scaffold tbh..

It's not much harder than fm22

The AI are a lot more aggressive and unpredictable in races.. but as far as development, you can still take backmarkers to the podium in 1st year, 2 at most

But to be fair, McLaren took their shitbox to the podium in just half the season as well..

Race moments and scenarios are quite hard I will say

[north skiff]

F1 2016 mobile version has tire damage?

[jolly lily]

No, they don't.

Afaik the front wing is disappeared and losing the grip. (If you crashed them so hard.)

[north skiff]

Can F1 2016 change car and driver modeling?

I mean the mobile version

If you can, make a mobile version of F1 23

[jolly lily]

Obviously it can. (Except there is no career mode so lol.)

No.

[north skiff]

I know it's not possible under normal circumstances except to modify the model

[jolly lily]

Yeah no.

[faint grotto]

Where do i see ir

I have the Game on spanish

[heavy glacier]

idk how i got 100 i was stuck at 50 confidance and coudlint change it ithout messing the whole set up and after jsut doing laps i got to this

[lyric scaffold]

Anyone F1 23 co op?

89 ai

[proud vapor]

Who here has tried F1 Mobile Racing

[lyric scaffold]

Anyone F1 23 co op pls

89 ai

[summer compass]

F1 22 such a bad game

The Steering is so shit

[vapid garnet]

Bruh what's going on I was first and now it sends me to the start with 42 ers

Also at the start everyone were on wets when I started now everyone on inters that is not fair

[hoary nova]

Oof

[hoary nova]

The throttle is the worst

One of the worst codemasters f1 games alongside f1 2014

[violet oasis]

Part of me wished F1 classic made a return in F1 23

God I'd kill to play those mean V8's again

[hoary nova]

Even better V10’s 🔥

[warm mural]

I got 2019

f1

And 23

If i want the v8

I just got to 2019

[mortal scarab]

F1 2019 or 2020 are the best option for driving classic cars

[violet oasis]

Is there a reason why they never brought it back?

[keen brook]

licenses

[warm mural]

they lost rights

Because of ea

[strange ridge]

YES YES YES COME ON

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[mortal scarab]

Damn bro,i really cooked so hard

So easy to replace the PS3 F1 2006 engine sounds with others from the game

[arctic tartan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rTLhlMBnpU&ab_channel=F1Gameplay I love that Merc engine sound

I feel like they get this wrong in the game

that innitial bite

in that rev line

it needs more life to it in the game

its too linear or how could I describe it

also the gear upshift sound ... its missing there I feel

when he puts it into another gear

[keen brook]

Yeah, like even in the manager, even in 2022, you really hear the shifts.

[arctic tartan]

the gear shift sound is super quiet and fast in the game

as opposed to real life

I think 2019 had pretty good engine sounds

[keen brook]

In the Codies games you only hear at the upshifts lower revs.

but not really the upshift itself

That's pole position.🥳 in his home race

[keen brook]

Australia race result of my McLaren career

current championship standings

That's the 1st time Oscar hasn't won this season.

in his home race

[warm mural]

how to stop sliding on f1 23??

i keep sliding

[ashen warren]

Nice ! 9th!

[vapid garnet]

Wdym sliding?

[warm mural]

I keep sliding

all over the place

[vapid garnet]

Like when braking?

[warm mural]

Yeah when i accelerate

[vapid garnet]

Did you just disable traction control in the assists?

[warm mural]

nope

[vapid garnet]

Well you spin because you are pressing the throttle too much when coming out of a corner

[versed granite]

what kind of steering wheel do you have

[strange ridge]

Logitech G920

[vapid garnet]

Anyone knows how to fix this? I really don't wanna start it all over again, I made a lot of laps

[strange ridge]

Another W in F1 open lobbies

[alpine dune]

Checo, what are you doing?!

[midnight mesa]

Assetto Corsa Fast Lap MCL60 1:43.312 Spa-Francorchamps

All assists off

[mortal scarab]

Cooked so hard in Canada (TimeTrial with Renault R26,F1 2006 PS3)

[toxic stratus]

Guys did f1 2020 have some sort of highlights thing, if yes
How to use

[lyric scaffold]

Btw when u brake and slide its because you have looked up right?

[heavy shoal]

Rear lock up

[heavy glacier]

i will say f1 manager 23 has way better crasehs

it ant jsut one or 2 cars it can be hath the grid

[heavy glacier]

just looked at the steam reviws love how people are shitting on the game allready its not even a bad game fact its way better then last years

[bitter finch]

When the teams include vehicle data, we will get it.

[restive mirage]

qualified p13, started p9, was p4 before turn 2, catching p3, gambled and took off wets for inters, p4 p20 to p12, 2 seconds faster than leclerc (who won the wdc that race)

s1 mexico in the slowest car in my f1 22 haas rtg

[neat dragon]

Red flag, verstappen gets 3 points added on.

[keen brook]

https://streamable.com/csamt6

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[vapid garnet]

Is ranked always 25%? Isn't there 5 lappers fir ranked

[keen brook]

Emilia Romagna qualifying result of my McLaren career

[junior kite]

love this corner

[vapid garnet]

Anyone else having an issue with canada having like 2x tyre ware? No idea what I'm doing wrong, even in dry and wet conditions I have 2x tyre ware

[junior kite]

isnt tyre wear just rlly bad in f1 23 in general

[vapid garnet]

Yeah probably but the difference between the front and rear tyres are a lot and I am not even putting a lot of pressure on them

[keen brook]

I don't really have issues with tire wear tbh.

For me front and rear is quite equal, only minor difference.

[vapid garnet]

Me too, but only in canada it happens

[glacial gyro]

It was way WAY worse in 2013-2014

U would be slipping and sliding everywhere and just barely make it to ur pit window

Speaking off the Classic Codemasters F1 games, u know that insane glitch in Brazil where u Skip turn 6 and turn 7 and u get the biggest air u can imagine as well as taking out any cars who are in ur way

[mortal scarab]

F1 2013 isn't bad

[glacial gyro]

I will show u some clips of what it normally looks like, then show u the big boi

[glacial gyro]

We were talking about the tire ware

I feel quite the opposite on the game itself actually

[arctic tartan]

So they are still working on these things? I thought its final

[glacial gyro]

Tho out of all the classic games, F1 2012 is my favourite

[arctic tartan]

2019 is prettt decent

And i say it because it has better engine sounds than 2020

[glacial gyro]

Then finally, THE BIG BOI!

Sry for the background noise, my Xbox 360 is the loudest thing on the planet

[odd sky]

Huh?

[vapid garnet]

I swear to god F1 23 is such a shitty game so many bugs, for no reason at all it sometimes applies my throttle and sometimes not, it just cuts off for no reason

[glacial gyro]

Boi had depression?

Since when

[glacial gyro]

It could be worse, we could have another F1 2014 where it was just a roster update and removed parts that people liked

[mortal scarab]

Codies early F1 games were really so good,though i think the late Sony F1 games are probably one of the best in terms of giving a bit more accurate experience

[glacial gyro]

What’s (in ur guys opinion) the best Codies F1 game

Mines 2012

[vapid garnet]

See it just cuts off and than returns

[glacial gyro]

Just something about it just makes me happy

[odd sky]

Is the 2 player career weather thing fixed

[mortal scarab]

Imo,from my experience it's either 2012 (because it still had the old Tier system to scramble the grid order/order from best to worst teams each season) or 2013 (because of the classic cars and tracks plus the Scenario mode)

[glacial gyro]

Same thing for me but the reason why I like 2012 is because of the graphics I mean come on! LOOK AT THE MAIN MENU!!! AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON THE SOUNDTRACK!!!!

[mortal scarab]

Imo,if i had a PS4 or a very powerful computer,i'd probably rate 2016 and 2019-2020 (2016 due to introducing the upgrading R&D system where you could pretty much bring backmarkers or midfielders into title fighting teams. And both 2019 & 2020 for the classic car content)

[keen brook]

2021

Emilia Romagna race result of my McLaren career

current championship standings

[thin python]

3 red flags and the first points with Williams, Albon on the podium : )

8 drivers dnfed

Lance was on an incredibly bad strategy

[solemn compass]

life is roblox

[thin python]

how is this f1 game related

[solemn compass]

roblox has alot of f1 games

[thin python]

yes but this channel is for the offical f1 games

[solemn compass]

try project trackday

[solemn compass]

damn

[vapid garnet]

I can't use cuatom setup in bronze?

Hiw tf am I supposed to do Monaco on f-ing 25 front and rear wing

[swift crater]

Albon is awful in f1 23, in my rookie season I have 22 points he has 19 yet I’m 11-6 in terms of races so far and I’m not out performing the car we have like 5-6 best car and he’s finishing 17th

And haas who have the 4th best car since like r11 have 9 points

Make it make sense

[simple thunder]

This years game, F1 2020, F1 2019 and F1 2016

F22 the worst probably

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[keen brook]

Oscar needs now his 2nd gearbox.

Stoffel needs now his 2nd gearbox as well.

[gusty geyser]

Helmet camera

Let’s goooo

[glacial gyro]

Aren’t u forgetting that 2014 exists

[simple thunder]

Didn't play it

[glacial gyro]

Also in F1 22 u can hit the griddy

[simple thunder]

Cringe

[glacial gyro]

It’s basically F1 2013 but they updated the roster and took away stuff people liked and that’s it

That’s all they did

Also can someone find out how to do stuff like this in F1 2012?

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUJSJ18ziH6Mw4TnvC65twyt5RNtfoprB

[keen brook]

That's pole position.🥳

Due to penalties Stoffel starts from 12th.

[keen brook]

Miami race result of my McLaren career

current championship standings

[warm mural]

sliding in f1 23 is so much

[lyric scaffold]

Same

[keen brook]

Hamelin's rating went up.

[warm mural]

how to stop it man

Especially in myteam

like im doing a very good audi rp

[lyric scaffold]

Idk when I brake the car just goes sliding like butter

[warm mural]

and its gone okay

we went p5

Then dnf

Then a win

then double dnf

then p7

car is unpredictable

[lyric scaffold]

Consistency is key

[warm mural]

Im doing a midfield rp

I do not think audi will be a wdc contender right away

i got my self and theo in the team

[lyric scaffold]

What is your calendar in my team?

[warm mural]

full

its more fun

to play everything

[lyric scaffold]

I fucking hate Miami 😭

[warm mural]

not monaco tho

[warm mural]

OMG ME TOO MAN

WE HAD A DNF THERE

[lyric scaffold]

Its just terrible

[warm mural]

TRACK SO BADDD

[lyric scaffold]

Unpopular opinion qatar is the best track

[warm mural]

Never played on it

[lyric scaffold]

I swear you can go full throttle in some corners

It's very fun to play

[warm mural]

id love that

[lyric scaffold]

It's the only track i can play 110

[warm mural]

should i make daily updates on my audi rp?

[lyric scaffold]

Sure i would love to see

[warm mural]

bet bet

next race in monaco

we are kinda bad tho

very bad form

i think we finna qualify p10-p15

we need 3 pts in this weekend tho

to make our sponsors happy

now a question

should i improve our drs system or reduce weight?

[keen brook]

DRS

It's quite powerful in this game so it makes sense to make it stronger.

[vapid garnet]

It keeps on happening, I try to press gas and it just doesn't work for a few seconds, I can't race like this. I tried it with a controller and still same issue, what am I supposed to do

[swift crater]

I’ve beaten Albon in the last 7 races in my first season

Realism

USA- Aston 5th best car

Mexico - best car

Too 5 so close

Including haas

In s1

[keen brook]

For FP1 already Oscar needs now his 2nd engine.

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[narrow raven]

Is that 22 or 23?

[keen brook]

22

Still have a lot to do in this game and also Frontier can fix the major bugs before I get 23.

[keen brook]

Oscar needs now his 2nd ERS and 3rd gearbox.

Stoffel needs now his 2nd engine.

[warm mural]

yup i think about it

[vestal torrent]

Hey guys, I am new. I built a pretty nice simulator and am really enjoying F1 23. Down to shred some laps with some fast friends

[warm mural]

i think my audi team is going pretty well

[vestal torrent]

You have braking assist on I think

[vapid garnet]

No it's off

[vestal torrent]

Does it only happen in the rain? Also is trac control off as well?

[vapid garnet]

Yeah every assist is off (other than the racing line) and I haven't tested it on dry weather yet

But I raced b4 on a wet track and it didn't happen than

[vestal torrent]

That is so weird

[vapid garnet]

Yeah, it gives the same throttle control you get when a safety car is ending if you know what I mean

But there is no SC ofc just wanted to say how it feels/looks like

[keen brook]

That's pole position.🥳

Due to penalties Stoffel starts from 7th.

[keen brook]

Oscar Piastri wins the Spanish Grand Prix.🥳

current championship standings

[warm mural]

Best ai level for realistic but not too hard myteam in f1 23??

[vapid garnet]

It's different for everyone

Based on your level and performance

What I did was set the fastest lap I possibly could on each track, enter it at F1Laps and made an average of the AI

[fathom garden]

anyone else find the ai op in the first 3 laps on f1 manager 23

[ancient sluice]

That happens to me

My drivers always lose 3-4 spots at the opening laps

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[keen brook]

Monaco qualifying result of my McLaren career

[keen brook]

Oscar Piastri wins the Monaco Grand Prix.🥳

current championship standings

[swift crater]

Anyone else doing a f1 23 career and there teamate is rubbish ?

[crimson tangle]

Congrats @swift crater, you're now on lap 10

[dim kite]

looks like you have full tc on

[vapid garnet]

I don't tho, and even if it did somehow turn on it still should only limit me to not spin, but it should let me use the throttle

[vital badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1056182415279792128/1136039001468448808/image.png

5 Races in my 2 Player career lol

3 different winners

Very realistic

[keen brook]

Max only 6th

But both you and your mate are quite matched with your teammates.

[vital badge]

His results are
1 2 11 DNF 3

Lol

Spun in Aus and engine died in baku

Happens

[keen brook]

In my co op career I had straight away an engine failure in Bahrain.

[vital badge]

lol rip

[keen brook]

with Ferrari

[vital badge]

my results are weird

6 1 10 7 1

[keen brook]

In the My Team I'll re-do because of the contract period bug I had an engine failure in Bahrain as well.

[vital badge]

AI are so bad in baku bro

[keen brook]

with Mercedes engine

[vital badge]

Can’t even overtake them all they do is push you into walls

[keen brook]

And in both cases it was the control electronics that failed.

so the same failure both times directly in the 1st race of the season but even with 2 different engines

[vital badge]

lol peak

[keen brook]

I literally have a Bahrain curse.

My mate is btw at RB.

replacing Max

I replaced Carlos.

[vapid garnet]

What should I change between TT setup/quali setup to race setup?

[restive mirage]

s2 grid of my haas rtg

Ferrari: Charles, Carlos

Red Bull: Max, Checo

Mercedes: Lewis, g*or

McLaren: Lando, Daniel

Haas: Me, stroll

Alpine: ocon, Gasly

Williams: Magnussen, Albon

Alfa Romeo: Zhou, Bottas

Aston Martn: Vettel, Tsunoda

Alpha Tauri: Latifi, Mick

[agile bison]

Would anyone be interested in being an engineer for my league? Races at 8pm bst every Saturday?

[restive mirage]

alonso retired

[autumn comet]

if there’s anyone looking to join a league and aren’t majorly fast then message srl_f1_ on IG

there’s _ after srl and f1

[keen wagon]

hey, would it be worth buying f1 manager 23 if i already have 22? I'm open to the idea but have'nt seen much change from 22.

[amber vine]

Anyone wanna play ?

[indigo moon]

F1 23 really pronounces “Zhou” as “Jew ” lmfao

[amber vine]

😂

[indigo moon]

Speaking of which, Jew just got his first podium in F1

Red flag brought some guys from the back to the front

[amber vine]

Bro

Wanna play

[dim kite]

was experimenting with strategy

[mystic elk]

hows the f1 manager 23 so far

[dim kite]

was only 2 tenths off of points with a 4 stop with lando

started mediums

full pushed whole race kept pitting for softs

and i had like a 10 second stop with lando which really did not help couldve gotten multiple points

[dim kite]

its fun

harder than 22

in terms of managing tires but also keeping pace

and with cash and stuff

[mystic elk]

nicee to hear that, im waiting for discount

[fossil vector]

Should i get F1 Manager 23 ?

[amber vine]

Yea

[fossil vector]

i have the 22 one im not too good

i still wanna try it

[sly flame]

Lovely overtake

[violet oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/tense-table-smash-mad-gif-13656077

[amber vine]

23 is kinda hard ngl

[amber vine]

Nah bro unlocked vin disel for that overtake

[fossil vector]

im takin red bull

is it stil hard

[amber vine]

Eh

Red Bull isn’t that dominant in the game

In comparison to real life

I Mercedes on 102ai can beat it

If you’re the Mercedes ofc

And taking into acc that mercs is maybe the 3rd or 4th fastest car in the game

Never take the Ferrari btw as it’s tire degradation on softs is 12 laps and and the Red Bull is 14 laps

[snow epoch]

ea made f1 challenge 99-02, if they re-gain the license to that we could have those seasons in next f1 games

[thin python]

the power of america in monza 🦅 🦅 🇺🇸 🔥

he will be starting from pole too

[keen brook]

nice

If you know all the tricks from the 22 manager, is the 23 manager still easy or not?

[thin python]

no it's pretty challenging

and most of the tricks don't work anymore

you can't max out all sliders

and using intense research is too expensive

so you can only do it a couple of times

the factory is much more important because parts wear out

i think i found a little bug in monza though

manual control in quali and you are much faster

Logan is falling back so quick in the race lol

[warm mural]

dnf in monaco for audi 😔

qualified p11

into lap 23

out of 32

gearbox failure

then our main driver james puts in the wall

Next stop Spain!

our goals

-get some good points

-finish p5

-gather data on the car and its behaviour

New car package will be introduced in austria

including

areo

weight reducing

And some better straight line speed

[dim kite]

yea the new manager game is pretty challenging

im yet to understand how the temps work

[vital badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1127709755738169374/1136257039878848522/F1_23_Screenshot_2023.08.02_-_11.57.35.11.png

After 7 races

[turbid hornet]

Anyone down for some f122

[somber turret]

is f1 23 worth it or should i buy f1 22, i only have f1 18 rn 😭

[vapid garnet]

F1 23 is better than f122 for sure

[somber turret]

idk if it could run on my pc tbh

is f1 23 gpu or cpu dependant

[vapid garnet]

no idea I play on Xbox

[somber turret]

i can run it on low graphics with 60fps

[keen brook]

F1 22 is pure garbage, would only be waste of money.

So if you wanna get a newer game, then F1 23 is the way to go.

Due to me being a console player as well I can't help you with PC specs either.

[somber turret]

i play on f1 2018 as of now, yes it may be old but its all i can get

[lyric scaffold]

Check it on the internet I think u will find ur answer

[warm mural]

P1 BABYYT IN SPAIN!!! WELL DESERVED AUDI TO P4 IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP

MOVING UP AND BEING BETTER THAN ASTONN

NEXT STOP

CANADA

[lyric scaffold]

Canada inchident 😯

It reminds me of

The canada incident

[warm mural]

im excited for canada

we have a big upgrade package

question

im thinking of sacking theo and replacing him with alex albon

i think he would do amazing in the audi

[somber turret]

i just done australia one shot qual with 1.29.375 W

[warm mural]

(Btw ima say this out of context f1 myteam car in szn 1 is super bad)

[somber turret]

first ever career as well

[warm mural]

cool

[keen brook]

In FP3 Stoffel locked up, causing light floor damage.

Then in FP2 Tsunoda spun into the wall and then Stoffel hit him, causing terminal front wing damage and getting a 3 place grid penalty.

Then in FP3 Stoffel locked up into the wall, causing severe front wing damage.

Then Verstappen locked up into Oscar and Russell, taking all 3 out of the race, causing a right rear puncture, terminal engine damage, terminal gearbox damage, terminal chassis damage, terminal front wing damage, terminal rear wing damage and terminal suspension damage and getting a 6 place grid penalty for Spain.

Then Magnussen locked up into the wall and out of the race.

Then Stoffel locked up into the wall, causing terminal front wing damage.

Then in FP2 Oscar spun into the wall, causing light suspension damage.

And then Stoffel spun into the wall, causing a left rear puncture, light chassis damage and light suspension damage.

[hard wave]

Checo had the AUDACITY to throw his hands in the air
(Context: Checo is on a slow lap with no front wing, Max is behind on a Flying lap)

Checo found a way to out quality Max, by taking him out in Q2

[keen brook]

The fact it's Checo and Max makes it even funnier.

[hard wave]

https://tenor.com/view/sergio-perez-happy-gif-23711842

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[hard wave]

They did Max dirty with that pic

He looks like he just woke up and got forced to take a photoshoot

[lyric scaffold]

why do they put rain tires on me at the start of each race in f1 world

[keen brook]

I've heard that a couple of times already but never experienced it myself.

[keen brook]

Azerbaijan qualifying result of my McLaren career

[snow epoch]

that's a big hit

[lyric scaffold]

ive never got an F1 game and i barely have knowledge on how the sport works but really want to get into it. Which game would be best for me to buy

[keen brook]

Azerbaijan race result of my McLaren career

current championship standings

[lyric scaffold]

any of you guys play f1 23

[hard wave]

Even the game forces Seb to Spin

[lean escarp]

What was that spin

Its like the front was magnetically attracted to the wall

[somber turret]

scratching my head to that wtf

[lean escarp]

That's not how a car works

[somber turret]

i think the ghosts rammed his car

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[lyric scaffold]

F1 23

okay thanks

[hard wave]

Some glitch, I used a flashback in the race and when it reset, it somehow put Seb in the wall

So I used flashback again and it didn't glitch, so Seb finished 2nd behind Charles

I didnt wanna see Seb retire due to a glitch while leading

[keen brook]

Canada qualifying result of my McLaren career

[mortal scarab]

Been cooking on F1 2005 (PS2)

Career mode on Hard,1st season and 2nd win in a row for RedBull after exiting from Jordan

[keen brook]

Oscar Piastri wins the Canadian Grand Prix.🥳

current championship standings

[true panther]

I got it

lol

started a career with williams

got into q3 my first race

W

HAAS CRASHED INTO ALBON

NO

i had my geforce experience off

well then......

bro

sargent and albon crashed within 4 laps

the mclarens are killing eachother and verstappen is pulling off on leclerc already wtf is this race lmao

[fathom garden]

anybody else find their pace is off by 2s at the start of the race

(FM23)

F1M23*

[vapid garnet]

I don't play F1 manager, but a lot of players here cam complaining that on the first few laps the AI are very powerful

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[keen brook]

Oscar needs now his 4th gearbox.

Stoffel needs now his 3rd gearbox.

[keen brook]

Great Britain race result of my McLaren career

Due to penalties Stoffel starts from 10th.

[keen brook]

Oscar Piastri wins the British Grand Prix.🥳

current championship standings

Nyck's rating went up.

new 4 year contracts for Oscar and the technical chief

Oscar has now a yearly salary from 20 million, before it was 420k.

[dim kite]

bro they didnt even change like most of the drivers pictures

oscars head is the same just on the 2023 overalls

same for nyck

[mortal scarab]

When Sony cooked so hard:

Was playing F1 Championship Edition (or F1 2006 for PS3) again and i just noted something

The BMW Sauber uses the same engine sound as the Renault in that game

Blud's couldn't cook a BMW engine sound🧐

[mystic elk]

for those ppl who have played f1 manager 22 and 23, what are the diff? is it worth the money tho

[zinc arrow]

anyone have an f1 22 or 23 league i could join

[icy bridge]

I've never seen anything like this before 😭

This is just after only 3-4 laps in Qualifying

[dim kite]

did u hit a wall with that tire?

[civic imp]

Did you hit a Red Bull's rear right?

[icy bridge]

I didn't hit anything. I did I think 3 flying laps in a row during qualifying

I know Monaco is a track that's rough with tire wear but didn't think it'll be like that

[icy bridge]

I did push Russell into the wall during the race if that makes you feel better

[dim kite]

well it shouldnt

either u hit a wall or its a bug

[icy bridge]

Buggy ass game

~~This is why iRacing is better ~~

[icy bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/george-russell-cota-f1-crash-sainz-gif-26981864

[dusty acorn]

Me in F1 22 single player

[lyric scaffold]

real

[heavy glacier]

does danny ric have his helmit if you bring him to alphtauri or is it a defualt one

[dim kite]

i brought him to rb and he still had his mclaren helmet for some reason

but in alpha he has the default one

[heavy glacier]

you would think they would give him it as he is there irl now

[somber turret]

anyone know a good wheel to buy that is also cheap

[dim kite]

so in f1 manager if you get damage during a sprint that isnt wing damage

you arent allowed to change that damaged piece for the main race

but you cant start the race with damage

[dawn sapphire]

What does the red line mean? During the laps I see it increase and reset. Same goes with the throttle side too but that one decreases. What are they?

[alpine crown]

Green is the amount of ERS you're allowed to use for that lap, red is the amount you recovered on that lap iirc

[dawn sapphire]

Ah thank you man!

[fleet temple]

fanatec formula v2.5 or fanatec csl elite mclaren gt3

its 380 euros /200 euros and 100% worth it

[loud lynx]

How about the F1 wheel?

Thought about getting it and maybe the gt3 too

[fleet temple]

This?

[loud lynx]

no wait a sec

[fleet temple]

its good value for money i think, the base is the starter dd, which is good, the pedals are also good, i just dont know if that wheel is good or not

[fleet temple]

i have this one and its amazing

[keen brook]

That btw wasn't George's fault at all.

[lyric scaffold]

Does anyone wanna start a f1 2023 co op career?

[lyric scaffold]

What ai difficulty

[lyric scaffold]

any upto u

Bruh

I am not gonna play if my difficulty is low for u

Then nah

65?

I play 90

[keen brook]

Stoffel locked up into the wall and out of FP2, causing severe chassis damage and terminal front wing damage.

Then Oscar spun into the wall, causing a left rear puncture, light chassis damage, light rear wing damage and light suspension damage.

Then in FP3 Oscar locked up into the wall, causing light chassis damage and severe front wing damage.

And then Stoffel locked up into Sainz, getting a 5 second time penalty.

[teal pollen]

3 or 2 stop

[snow epoch]

so i started a motorsport manager career with benetton in the 1993 season, we got our first podium here in the 3rd race!!

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[snow epoch]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

[teal pollen]

lewis wins in his debut race for RB

[keen brook]

Oscar needs now his 3rd engine.

Stoffel needs now his 2nd ERS.

For some reason Oscar got a grid penalty for the engine change.

That's pole position.🥳

Due to penalties Oscar starts from 6th, Stoffel from 11th.

Now this mysterious penalty even robs Oscar a point.

[somber turret]

i play 3

[lyric scaffold]

Skull issue

[mortal scarab]

What mod is that?

[teal pollen]

oh no...

OH FCK

this is not where to overtake....

lewis takes the lead with 2 straights to go

but max has drs

and is ahead

AND WINS THE MIAMI GP]

[keen brook]

Oscar Piastri wins the Austrian Grand Prix.🥳

[teal pollen]

lewis is not happy

[keen brook]

current championship standings

[teal pollen]

and if it wasnt crazy engough

[somber turret]

what device extension do i need to use the fanatec formula v2.5?

idk what the thing is called

the device that i plug the wheel into

[fleet temple]

any base

[keen brook]

For 2026 there's a reg change that the top 2 gets more wind tunnel time, 3rd more CFD and wind tunnel time, 4th and 5th unchanged, 6th, 9th and 10th less wind tunnel time and 7th and 8th less CFD and wind tunnel time.

[fleet temple]

but dds have better ffb

[keen brook]

Only Haas, Alfa Romeo and Aston Martin voted against that.

[lean escarp]

Vandoorne nice

[somber turret]

what base should i use with the fanatec formula v2.5 thats within a reasonable price range

[keen brook]

He's performing really bad.

[fleet temple]

well whats the price range

[lean escarp]

Yeah I can see

Drop him smh

[keen brook]

But he does what he's supposed to be and that is not being in the way for Oscar to win the title.

[lean escarp]

It does hurt you in the Constructors tho

[somber turret]

well i have 1k

[fleet temple]

danggg

[somber turret]

minus the 419.90 for the wheel and stickers

[crimson tangle]

Congrats @somber turret, you're now on lap 5

[somber turret]

so like 570

[fleet temple]

pc/xbox or ps?

[somber turret]

pc

[fleet temple]

i sent u a dm

[west widget]

Why did you replace Lando with Stoffel just wondering

[snow epoch]

grand prix manager 1993 mod for Motorsport Manager

[keen brook]

Because I've made Lando a champion already so I now need a teammate for Oscar who isn't in the way for him to win the title and because Williams signed Stoffel in 2024 for 0 races I couldn't sign him as reserve to make Nyck Oscar's teammate so I had to sign him as main driver instead.

And there are no other McLaren academy drivers in the game.

[bleak cloud]

Oscar you good?

[keen brook]

And I also don't care about the constructors, that's not my goal and I've won it already last year anyway.

[west widget]

Ok 👍

[keen brook]

My goal in this game is to make every of my favourite drivers a world champion.

I've done that already with Mick, Alex, Logan and Lando already.

[lean escarp]

Who's next then

Ocon?

[keen brook]

now Oscar, then Esteban

[lean escarp]

I see

[keen brook]

then Charles, then George and then Pierre

[lean escarp]

Slowly one by one everyone will become a champion

[west widget]

Lol FR

[keen brook]

All with their teams they're in right now.

well, except for Mick

I made him with Haas a champion.

another FP1 for Nyck

But I honestly have to say Stoffel is doing worse than Nissany did at Williams as Logan's teammate.

The 1st 2 races from Stoffel were actually quite good.

In Jeddah I even had to say him to stay behind Oscar.

And we got an easy 1-2.

But that's still Stoffel's only podium.

I'm sure Nyck would've done better but well, Williams decided to sign Stoffel in 2024 just to replace him ahead of Bahrain with Alonso.

And as soon as a driver is once a main driver, they'll never accept the reserve driver role anymore.

So I had no other choice than signing Stoffel.

Nyck meanwhile is still reserve with a 79 rating, the same Oscar has.

[keen brook]

France qualifying result of my McLaren career

Oscar spun in the last corner starting into the flying lap of his 2nd run.

Could've been an easy pole.

and another point for the championship

At least Stoffel finally managed a Q3 again.

thanks to the new floor

[keen brook]

Oscar Piastri wins the French Grand Prix.🥳

current championship standings

[teal pollen]

OSCAR CHAMPION OF THE WORLD

[spice laurel]

yo, can anyone recommend me a good wheel and pedals to use for F1 23 to save up for? preferably under £500 and can get to the UK

[fleet temple]

Do you have anything rn or need to buy everything

[spice laurel]

nothing as of rn, i have a controller and thats it 🙂

just thinking its upgrade time

[fleet temple]

These are decent for the price

[spice laurel]

can't seem to find it on amazon or other retailers

[fleet temple]

Its on fanatecs website

[spice laurel]

ah yes i see. Thanks

[fleet temple]

No problem

[fleet temple]

You can get the csl dd 5nm base for 200 if you buy a wheel and pedals, so you dont have to buy exactly the ones i sent

[keen brook]

Not yet, but he most likely will.

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[swift crater]

You have got to be joking

I have the glitch we’re I have to change car at the last race of the season

[keen brook]

This bug only got fixed for new career saves.

So every career save that existed before that patch wasn't effected from the fix.

[swift crater]

I know

So annoying

[keen brook]

yeah

That's why I'll re-start my My Team later on.

I had anyway only done Bahrain.

And it was of course a DNF due to an engine failure.

If I play F1 23 I currently only do F1 World or recently also league racing in a private just for fun league.

[vital badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1127709755738169374/1136750449152753735/IMG_3268.jpg

fucked my quali soo

🙂

[keen brook]

Stoffel needs now his 3rd engine.

Hungary qualifying result of my McLaren career

Due to penalties Oscar starts from pole, Stoffel from 4th.

[alpine crown]

@kind ferry the G29 brake is genuinely shit, but it's gonna be better for you in the long term to learn how to brake on that than doing it on the clutch

as I said, set the saturation to 9, I found that's perfect for making it more sensitive to intricate inputting

and just practice tf out of it

like stay on Monza TT and do not stop until you get through turn 1 without locking up

[kind ferry]

alr

[strange ridge]

Bro Yoshi

[kind ferry]

you know sooo much its crazy

ty for all the help

[swift crater]

The s2 grid in f123 career
Red bull - max Charles
Ferrari - George logan
Merc - Lewis Lando
Mlcaren - me Bottas
Alpine - same
Aston - nando de vries
At - yuki Lance
Willy - Oscar zhou
Haas - k mag and albon
Alfa Romeo - Sainz and Perez

[kind ferry]

yeah

[swift crater]

Very interesting reasults

[kind ferry]

whatb was it

[strange ridge]

How is your back after carrying Mario bro

[kind ferry]

ohh yeah its hurting sooo fkn much

crazy

[strange ridge]

Damn bro

[drifting iron]

Who would’ve thought Aston Martin would get a win and it be Lance Stroll

[kind ferry]

is there a way to get the entire field on the screen instead of only the five closest drivers

[alpine crown]

don't think so, no

[drifting iron]

And fastest pit stop aswell for good measure 😂

[kind ferry]

alr cuz i saw a stream where he played with that but maybe like a mod

idk

[swift crater]

Logan and Nyck out in q1 in 4-5 best cars

[keen brook]

That btw means that Oscar gets the point for pole.

[dim kite]

interesting

also yuki went to williams only transfers

[swift crater]

@keen brook (sorry for the tag) but thanks Becayse you told me at the start of the game how to get it like this

[keen brook]

Oh yeah, these transfers are insane, good to know that it still works like that in this years game.

[swift crater]

yep

[swift crater]

It’s really fun

Like Alonso p3 whoever de vries p17 in the same car

[keen brook]

lol

[swift crater]

And sargent in a Ferrari

Cold

Bottas p3 in every session me p10 but in q3 I am p8 he’s p10

[keen brook]

Oscar Piastri wins the Hungarian Grand Prix.🥳

current championship standings

[thin python]

it’s very easy to win the fastest pit stop competition

[keen brook]

finally a good race from Stoffel

[mortal scarab]

Cooked so hard in the 1st career season of F1 2005 (One race left to end the season btw)

[thin python]

what is your goal with stoffel?

wdc?

[keen brook]

nope

He's just there to not be in the way for Oscar's title win.

[thin python]

lol

nice

[keen brook]

That's why I had to replace Lando.

[keen brook]

I made him a champion already in the previous season, now it's Oscar's task to follow him.

The blue number 1 on the Red Bull really looks weird.

[mortal scarab]

Season results of 1st season so far (1st part)

2nd part

[keen brook]

I actually wanted to make Nyck to Oscar's team mate and Stoffel should return as reserve driver but Williams destroyed that plan with signing him in 2024 for 0 races.

And once a driver gets signed as main driver they never accept the reserve role anymore.

[swift crater]

Started on hards, red flag so u put mediums on game send me on hards

I’m absolutely screwed now

[strange ridge]

💀

[thin python]

right

they signed him for 0 races?

[keen brook]

yes

[thin python]

how

[keen brook]

At the start of the season he was at Williams together with Magnussen and ahead of Bahrain he was replaced already with Alonso.

[thin python]

his performance in pre season testing was so bad he was dropped lmao

[keen brook]

So he was literally for 0 races at Williams.

The same happened at Alfa with Latifi.

They replaced him with Hamilton.

ahead of Bahrain as well

[swift crater]

An sc has blessed me

[keen brook]

You could say Stoffel is there to be Oscar's wingman.

He actually even did exactly that at Jeddah.

the only 1-2 with Stoffel

[drifting iron]

It was my first time lol

[keen brook]

Hayes' rating went up.

[fathom garden]

one of my favorite features of F1M23 is def the f2/f3 results

F2 Title fight currently between Iwasa and Daruvala

[keen brook]

Yeah, that's really nice.

[thin python]

yeah i wasn’t trying to downplay it or anything. The trick is to have the pit crew do a lot of gym training

[drifting iron]

yeah, big problem though is the mistakes

its worth losing 1 tenth or so opposed to seconds

[thin python]

yeah

you get a lot of money from the DHL fastest pit stop award

so it’s worth focusing on

[drifting iron]

how much?

i never knew you got paid

[thin python]

12 million i think

not certain

[drifting iron]

wow thats insane

[thin python]

i think it’s a fun addition to the game

[drifting iron]

so is that after the season ends

[thin python]

yes

[drifting iron]

whoever is top of the constructor pit stop thing

fair enough

[thin python]

yup

[drifting iron]

does everyone get money or just 1st?

like 2nd, 3rd etc

[thin python]

everyone

[drifting iron]

ok yeah thanks for letting me know, i wouldnt have even cared otherwise tbf lol

[thin python]

[drifting iron]

[thin python]

[swift crater]

The ai in s1 for Mcalren have made a shut box

[narrow raven]

Does anyone else have an issue with front brake locking at canada

I'm fine at every other track but every turn at Canada my fronts are locking

And bb is at 55

[alpine crown]

I mean if you can put it further back without rear locking go for it

could be a setup thing to tweak, or just something to tweak corner to corner

[narrow raven]

I've tried it but then the fronts and rears lock

[narrow raven]

Ye, it seemed to get a bit better on hards rather than softs but was still there

[loud lynx]

A quick question to all fanatec knowing people: I can use both xbox and xbox ready tagged wheels on xbox right? What is the difference then (I couldn’t really understand it from their explanation)?

[vapid garnet]

That sucked, was probably gonna win until I made a mistakeand decided to flashback, and than the game did it's thing

[rancid jay]

Does anyone know how to fix this on F123?

[loud lynx]

Verify the game files

[pseudo epoch]

https://gyazo.com/67ee9802a44f486f133a521be0d7a9c4

https://gyazo.com/7289e870fd23ef980f0a0ab3c660f501

[indigo moon]

Kmag somehow pulled off a win

Leclerc signed for Haas

Hauger signed for McLaren

Hulkenberg went to AT

De Vries was somehow signed to Aston, the top team

What is this game lmfao

[restive mirage]

so its f1 2016 canada, it was inter conditions and as soon as drs was enabled i boxed from p1 and fell to p3, i went on ultrasofts and i was about 4s behind lewis, 1 lap later when my tires were warmed up 100% i passed lewis in s2, and 1 lap later another 4s back i pass max for p1 on the last lap, and i won by 4s after leading every lap from pole except the 2 laps i spent p3/2, and only i broke below the 1:20's, everyone was on inters on a bone dry track except me, i could carry 30mph more than max through a chicane

w gamble fr

[swift crater]

Masterclass.

The track was getting wet and se veryone went on softs

So I went on inters

Got p2

Behind max

Well p5 when everyone went out on inters

So never mind

[swift crater]

In s2 the grid is so close

Went from being t he 8th best team to 4th within 4 weekends

it’s so close

Haas are p2

[toxic stratus]

i think i broke my f1 2020

[haughty shore]

bro in my f1 23 bottas signed for ferrari

and verstappen joined ferarri to

[stiff bridge]

think it shows how mixed up they have made the came maybe the alfa romeo connections coming in

[swift crater]

Bottas p1 in q1,q2
Me p11,6

QE

Q3*

Me p5

Bottas p7

[keen brook]

Stoffel locked up into Ricciardo, causing light front wing damage and getting a 5 second time penalty.

Then Zhou spun into the wall and out of FP1.

[stiff bridge]

de vries and vandoorne... i have so many questions

[keen brook]

Nyck is reserve driver.

Stoffel is Oscar's teammate.

Then in FP1 Nyck locked up into the wall, causing light chassis damage and severe front wing damage.

[stiff bridge]

wheres lando?

[keen brook]

He's at RB right now.

[stiff bridge]

oh, did you get rid of him?

[keen brook]

I made him already a champion, so now my task is to make Oscar a champion.

[stiff bridge]

ah very nice

[keen brook]

And therefore he needs a teammate who isn't in his way to do so.

And then Daruvala spun into the wall and out of the race.

[stiff bridge]

get oli bearmann 🫶🏻

[keen brook]

I signed him in my Haas save where I made Mick a champion.

He even had 1 or 2 race wins.

Once in Canada he took out Mick.

[stiff bridge]

o...

[keen brook]

For Haas I only signed FDA drivers and well, Ollie is one of my favourite F2 drivers, so I signed him as soon as it was possible which is 2024.

In the new manager I'll probably sign him as reserve for Ferrari.

[stiff bridge]

yeah

i think its out

[keen brook]

another FP1 for Nyck

[stiff bridge]

if you want oscar chanp woukdnt it make sense putting nyck in for vandoorne

[keen brook]

Magnussen is literally on fire.

[fleet plank]

Drift

[wicked raptor]

sideways ps5

war crime

[stiff bridge]

fr

[mint cedar]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/KYULZYXDX4

The akward silence 😭

[keen brook]

Belgium qualifying result of my McLaren career

Oscar had traffic on his 1st Q2 run and went wide on his 2nd run.

Due to penalties Stoffel starts from 5th, Oscar from 12th.

[stiff bridge]

cmon oscar

[silver heron]

Leclerc has reached 115 podiums, 76 wins and 5 world championships so far

[stiff bridge]

holy shit

[silver heron]

i think he'll reach to 90 this season if verstappen doesn't improve

but hes been unlucky in the first two races

[stiff bridge]

alonso still in? 💀

alpine doing good

[silver heron]

nah alonso retired

i offered him a reserve role he didnt want it

[stiff bridge]

oli bearmann in? hah

damn

so ungrateful

[silver heron]

aston literally ditched him after a year even though he was the best point scorer

[silver heron]

yes

[stiff bridge]

yayyy

carlando back in town

[silver heron]

three seasons in and he has a total of 3 points

'26 and '27 aston was such a shit box it kept locking up here and there so he was unlucky

[silver heron]

yessirr

[stiff bridge]

ferrari snapping him up 🔜

hehe

[silver heron]

hes 22 and charles is prolly considering retiring in 3 years so is maybe max so ill try signing bearman and vesti

[stiff bridge]

ooo that would be cool keep me updated with your manager career

[keen brook]

Belgium race result of my McLaren career

current championship standings

[stiff bridge]

bro...

[mint cedar]

My F1 Manager 23 season is turning out to be a banger, not for me, but for the championship in general. Three way title fight between VER, PER and LEC

[stiff bridge]

i just sent ferrari close challengers and got timed out i think its because i accidentally mispelled and said the naught n word

[stiff bridge]

who rb put first

[fossil vector]

Thats sus

[silver heron]

bet sure will

[stiff bridge]

whoopsies

[silver heron]

piastri bottled a double alpine podium

[fossil vector]

i want to get f1 manager so bad

[stiff bridge]

ouch

[fossil vector]

but i cant afford it

[stiff bridge]

same

[silver heron]

somehow the rb is getting gapped by the alfa romeo

number 77 for Leclerc

[stiff bridge]

20 seconds

damn

you could sabotage him and he would still win 💀

40 seconds to the next non teammate car

[silver heron]

he spun in quali causing him to another lap running out of fuel and starting p10

[silver heron]

yeah💀

he couldve done a 2 stop

[solar dew]

Wtf?! I did a coop race in F1 23, finished last and ended up first... The winner went to P17, P2 went to P16...

[stiff bridge]

jeez