That’s a looker
#motorsports
stone sorrel
dayum low
fluid cobalt
Super late models are cash
vagrant wyvern
Greatest of All Time.
fluid cobalt
How.mp4
eternal sluice
@tight quiver hottie
foggy fulcrum
And?
Firstly the conversation was about EuroNASCAR, and late model stocks haven’t got better looking in the last 5 years lmao
foggy fulcrum
No
fluid cobalt
Damn, so what's yer fave?
foggy fulcrum
The Cup cars have improved way more than that
Like in the same time period
The shape of the car hasn’t changed at all, doesn’t matter what stickers you put on it
They don’t look enough like road cars like Cup or GT3 cars do, but they do not look like actually purpose built racing machinery either
They’re just some ugly relic
foggy fulcrum
And the everything else
foggy fulcrum
Modifieds? Great, happy with that
fluid cobalt
Have a supermodified instead
foggy fulcrum
Winged sprint cars? Look great
They look like race cars at least
Late models do not look like race cars
They look tragic
vagrant wyvern
Yeah now I know why they call Richard the King.
Dude raced for 35 years, nearly 1,200 races. Finished within the top 5 nearly 50% of the time
GOAT
vagrant wyvern
One of the most popular drivers
foggy fulcrum
200 career Grand National/Winston Cup wins
vagrant wyvern
See this is the difference between f1 and nascar
Back when petty raced people were much more gentlemanly
Although he kinda kicked everyone’s ass too hard
foggy fulcrum
Well, statistically, F1 has had seasons increase in length while NASCAR has seen them decrease for one
vagrant wyvern
Yeah
And F1 races for shorter distances less often
While this dude was doing like 300-400 miles every saturday
foggy fulcrum
It’s actually why I think it’s statistically reasonable to compare Kyle Busch’s top three series results combined
But people don’t wanna hear that lmao
vagrant wyvern
Well there wasnt lower divisions when the King Raced
foggy fulcrum
Well, there were but
vagrant wyvern
Not really counted
foggy fulcrum
And again, what I’m saying is it doesn’t matter
Because there’s a lot fewer NASCAR Cup Series races now
And they’re a LOT more competitive
Kyle Busch has won 222 times in the the top three national touring series
Richard Petty, won 200
Kyle Busch is also, only 36
vagrant wyvern
Yet Richard is still considered the best of all time
foggy fulcrum
Yeah, I think KFB is underrated, although I don’t love that word
vagrant wyvern
I met the man. Extremely humble.
foggy fulcrum
He’s an instant hall of fame candidate when he retires
vagrant wyvern
Earnhardt was still pretty much at his prime when he died.
foggy fulcrum
He’s an instant hall of fame candidate when he retires
He’d deserve that on the Bristol weekend sweeps alone, or on the championships alone, or on his wins as an owner alone, or on his streak of winning at least one race every season for 17 years
vagrant wyvern
Daniel Ricciardo reminds me of if dale wasnt chaotic evil but chaotic good lol
foggy fulcrum
But he’s done all of that
vagrant wyvern
See, we only count top series wins because if we counted all wins it would be ridiclous
foggy fulcrum
Kyle Busch has won 102 times in the Xfinity Series alone, and if you take that away from him, he’s still won more races in Cup and Truck than Harvick has in all three series
vagrant wyvern
If you count all of Hamilton’s junior wins he’d have like 140
foggy fulcrum
He won every single NXS race he started last year
Xfinity and Truck are not junior series
vagrant wyvern
Vettel would have like 80
foggy fulcrum
Xfinity and Truck are not junior series
vagrant wyvern
Xfinity and Truck are not junior series
I know
foggy fulcrum
There is no comparable analogue in F1
vagrant wyvern
The international motorsport hall of fame has him I believe already
foggy fulcrum
Heh I’ve got a diecast with a licence from them
vagrant wyvern
Including my persona
foggy fulcrum
But like, NASCAR HOF is the one that counts lol
Speaking of, isn’t Dale Jr in there as of today?
foggy fulcrum
Ah yeah my diecast is from 2006
The ties to Dale Earnhardt Sr are loose but it’s there
vagrant wyvern
Henry Ford was inducted because fuck if he wasnt there would be a riot
foggy fulcrum
Truex Talladega Chance2 raced win Earnhardt tribute paint scheme
So yk, his paint scheme and the car’s owned by his kids so I kinda get it
vagrant wyvern
guy who invents the mass production of cars
not in motor hall of fame
wtf
This has a very complete list of legends
foggy fulcrum
Yeah I think my point was just like
NASCAR fans don’t appreciate KFB and they’ll miss him a lot when he’s gone
vagrant wyvern
Another batshit crazy record is the Land Speed record
Currently held by a Wing Commander of the British Royal Air Force because yes
foggy fulcrum
Fun fact
Land speed records are part of why NASCAR exists
They used to set them on Daytona Beach
vagrant wyvern
Car needed two jet engines because one wasnt enough to get up to speed with his giga balls
foggy fulcrum
Eventually they moved out to Bonneville, and Bill France stepped in to fill the void with stock car racing
vagrant wyvern
Lol
foggy fulcrum
Which is why the first race was on the Daytona Beach and Road Course
Why NASCAR is based in Daytona Beach and why Daytona International Speedway is where it is
vagrant wyvern
Daytona is a beautiful circuit. Wish F1 could race there but banking 😢
foggy fulcrum
Yeah I think it’s also just too fast
vagrant wyvern
Yeah
marble willow
vagrant wyvern
I miss Dale but his death did make racing a whole ass bit safer
Im sure many young drivers owe their lives to him
foggy fulcrum
Nah like
The information was there
Dale Earnhardt had to die to make them listen
vagrant wyvern
It only had to take the life of a legend to prevent it from happening again
foggy fulcrum
But he didn’t have to die if they’d bothered to do their jobs
vagrant wyvern
Yep
foggy fulcrum
He died from a basilar skull fracture, the exact kind of injury the HANS device prevents, and the same kind of injury that killed Adam Petty and Kenny Irwin Jr in 2000
vagrant wyvern
He probably would have been just badly whiplashed had he been wearing the hans.
foggy fulcrum
Unfortunately, due to Petty and Irwin dying at the same track
NASCAR chose to blame the track, not the cars or anything else
vagrant wyvern
You’d think that the death of a young promising talent with a name of Petty would have caused a major investigation
foggy fulcrum
Not that they stopped racing there…
Or even installed SAFER barriers in a reasonable amount of time
Adam Perry’s death was a tragedy, Irwin’s was a horrible mistake, Earnhardt’s was inexcusable.
vagrant wyvern
Well no shit had it been earnhardt first those two would be with us today
foggy fulcrum
And that isn’t even mentioning Tony Roper, who also died in the Truck series in 2000, although something like the HANS device would not have saved him
The SAFER barrier would have helped though
NASCAR had five fatal accidents in two years
It was borderline criminal they didn’t do something a long time before Daytona in 2001
tight quiver
<@!163353291088986112> hottie
Ford better
onyx sluice
IT'S MONTE WEEK RALLY
drifting sentinel
ford puma already top 10 best wrc liveres of the past 10 years 😳
eternal sluice
ford puma already top 10 best wrc liveres of the past 10 years 😳
yep
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Sydney added to S5000, TCR Australia schedules
stone sorrel
sacred geyser
Adam Perry’s death was a tragedy, Irwin’s was a horrible mistake, Earnhardt’s wa...
I feel like the entire timeline between the multiple accidents that began with Petty to like Blaise Alexander the following year was a catastrophic mismanagment by the safety of stock cars in america as a whole
I'm putting BA's crash from ARCA too because his death was also preventable with a HANS device possibly
i remember watching a truck race where dennis sentzer on lap 2 had a struck throttle and destroyed the front of the car
or when kenny wallace crashed in martinsville bc of a struck throttle
Unironically ARCA had a huge flaw with having practice with 0 spotters until a pretty horrifying accident in 2002
buoyant shale
autumn briar
nice
low gate
holy shit
sacred geyser
me
uhhhh i'd be not suprised if it's bourdais?
unless he's in the other foyt car
eternal ravine
I assume so
I thought Bourdais signed with somebody else.
But you probably, most likely Bourdais
sacred geyser
he does cardilac LMDh and IMSA
99% he'll do the indy 500 but the gateway races/richmond dunno
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | AJ Foyt Racing signs Calderon, ROKiT expands sponsorship
sacred geyser
99% he'll do the indy 500 but the gateway races/richmond dunno
forgo that i realized kimball is a free agent
foggy fulcrum
?
sacred geyser
guessing thinking williams rokit means that rokit is questionable
albeit rokit has sponsored foyt for a few years now and haven't had any issues
sacred geyser
indirectly
rokit pulling out would then make Williams in a way way better shape once they got the Dalton ownership
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Sargeant "lucky" to continue on F1 junior ladder amid money worries
brittle sentinel
RACING EVENTS THIS WEEK
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MAJOR EVENTS
WeatherTech SportsCar Championship Motul Pole Award 100 - Daytona International Speedway 🇺🇸
**IMSA Prototype Challenge Roar Before The Rolex 24 - Daytona International Speedway 🇺🇸 **
**WRC Rally Monte-Carlo 🇲🇨 **
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OTHER EVENTS
24H Series 6H Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina Circuit
Formula Regional Asian Championship - Yas Marina Circuit
FIA Formula 4 UAE Championship - Yas Marina Circuit
Lamborghini Super Trofeo Middle East - Yas Marina Circuit
Indian Touring Car National Championship - Madras Motor Race Track
solar narwhal
https://twitter.com/AJFoytRacing/status/1483045971663675394?t=JzB16zoUKLR9ZUMzQB...
noice
pliant girder
yoo wtf
foggy fulcrum
RACING EVENTS THIS WEEK
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MAJOR EVENTS
**WeatherTech SportsCar Championship Mot...
Rallye Monte Carlo starts on the 20th
brittle sentinel
Rallye Monte Carlo starts on the 20th
fuck, always I something miss, will fix that
eternal ravine
TKAY DOING THE 500
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Rosenqvist: We can't have a season like we had last year
tight quiver
agree
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Kanaan confirmed in American Legion-backed Ganassi car at Indy
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Hughes makes F2 step up with Van Amersfoort Racing
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | O’Ward: Super Licence rules “ridiculous”, would take F1 option
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Grosjean’s heart was “pumping like hell” watching F1 finale
young locust
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:newspaper: | Calderon hopes Super Formula experience will aid rookie learning
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:newspaper: | Champion Palou targets improved qualifying, first oval win
:newspaper: | Carpenter confident in benefits of continuity with VeeKay, Daly
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Could Team Goh hand Sasahara a Super Formula lifeline?
stone sorrel
buoyant shale
lethal yacht
uneven coral
sacred geyser
late
exotic meadow
The news caused a stir in Adria on Monday 17 January. The access of a bailiff who, at the instigation of the bankruptcy trustee, ordered the evacuation of the premises of the Cavanella Po racetrack, a structure of excellence at national and international level. An act that, however, was immediately opposed by the current management company which, considering itself unrelated to the bankruptcy procedure in progress and based on a preliminary agreement with the property owner of the structure, believes it has all the rights to be able to continue its business. A complex story, as often happens in cases of this magnitude, but which can be summarized broadly. The procedure in progress, which sees the bankruptcy trustee and the bailiff engaged, would concern, according to what is learned from the current managers, in fact, a company that managed the racetrack for a period, without, however, being the owner. In fact, the property is owned by a fund set up, in turn, by various companies.
Fund with which the current management company of the racetrack, Bioitalia, has a preliminary agreement in place for which it has paid a large deposit, in the order of 1.5 million euros. A healthy company that believes, by virtue of the signed preliminary agreement, that it has all the rights to continue in its business and remain in the racetrack. Consequently, this is the request that has already been made official to the judge.
In the immediate future, however, Bioitalia complied with the request, ie to leave the premises, primarily the office that manages the "operations center" of the structure and management. Clear, however, how it did not end here and how Bioitalia hopes to see its requests accepted as soon as possible.
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In the background, the possible consequences of image, but also at the level of induced. This weekend and next, in fact, they are - at this point it would be better to say "they were", even if it is still possible to hope for sportsmen - two world championship races in Vsk are scheduled, the "nursery" category for the Formula One drivers. With participants of over 50 nationalities and the effects of the case on the accommodation facilities in the area. The Adria Rally was scheduled to follow.
Now, almost everything, at least immediately, will depend on the reception that the judge will reserve for the Biotalia instance. Something could be known tomorrow, Tuesday 18 January
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Adria International Raceway (which hosted the WTCR race this year) might be called down due to money issues
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Kirkwood says pressure reduced as he aims to boost Foyt team
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Castroneves: Pagenaud will help put MSR “on the next level”
quartz pike
F1 Monaco pit lane used for WRC purposes this week
vivid stream
They used to run a special stage on the southern half of the course.
I hope they do it again, someday, this time on the entire course.
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Grosjean relishes comparisons with new teammate Herta
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:newspaper: | O’Ward: Arrow McLaren SP will join IndyCar elite, isn’t there yet
crude dagger
<:pogberg:875857381693743144>
Where did you get that emoji
tight quiver
yes
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Dixon leads calls for next-gen IndyCar to lose weight
fluid cobalt
LES GO
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Dane Cameron to test Penske IndyCar
brittle coyote
solar sparrow
me too man
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Ex-Ferrari junior Armstrong joins Hitech for 2022 F2 season
tight quiver
slow
tight quiver
huh
they are gonna use electric power on public roads
@vivid stream here is a bit on the hybrids
tight quiver
i wish we got more privetly entered topclass race cars
like the LMP1 of the rebellions and bykolles and Jari Huttunen did in rally swede 2 year ago
foggy fulcrum
i wish we got more privetly entered topclass race cars
well, you've only got one more year to wait lmao
tight quiver
true
high garden
where are they now? 🧐
VW too
drifting sentinel
also sounded the best
foggy fulcrum
HMS fixed every issue with this car
double bowtie? gone.
ASHOC logo under the cup series decal? moved.
NAPA hexagon not straight? fixed.
buoyant shale
drifting sentinel
HMS fixed every issue with this car
better
marble willow
https://twitter.com/MarcoAndretti/status/1483858111656079365?t=rJazSxg-lYwuYa6L9...
sends photo of the 2006 Indy 500 Finish
buoyant shale
Poor man
marble willow
Yeah. Hornish denying father and son an Indy 500 win is just harsh.
crude dagger
Itsssssss ralllylyyyyyy dayyyyyyyyy finnnallllylyyyyyyy
atomic widget
Holy shit bro, I’m crying and freaking out 😭
lone zodiac
Damn nice
high garden
Holy shit bro, I’m crying and freaking out 😭
who is he
elfin void
marble willow
high garden
6 Time INDYCAR Championship
why not entering F1
elfin void
Indy is less expensive
Easier to drive
Can rough the car around a lot more
requires less documentation, if already in the sport
and is overall less strict
eternal ravine
Holy shit bro, I’m crying and freaking out 😭
I remember my mom freaking out one time over Simon Pagenaud viewing her story on IG once 
marble willow
why not entering F1
He tested with Williams once in 2004
drifting sentinel
wouldn't say Indy is easier to drive
absence of power steering for example
compared to F1
also the poor surfaces of some of the circuits they visit compared to F1 as well
cough Long Beach
then again
I've driven neither so no reason why you should believe me
exotic meadow
stone sorrel
Seb do be goin hard
tight quiver
exotic meadow
i never followed DTM's silly season, is it normal it takes so long to announce drivers?
like in one month there's portugal, and no announcement on them yet
buoyant shale
quartz pike
I hope they do it again, someday, this time on the entire course.
Imagine the cars going through the tunnel or the uphill
earnest lagoon
quartz pike
plush quarry
motorsport champions league when
buoyant shale
yeah kinda wrong channel
tacit garden
motorsport champions league when
plush quarry
trueeeeee
buoyant shale
And a world cup we also had
Tbh A1GP was even cooler
Also A1GP Lebanon had some weird drivers
Ah yes
Graham Rahal
my favourite Lebanon driver
latent rapids
WRC is here
latent rapids
My first time watching
crude dagger
Great😐
naive smelt
Well that’s entertaining
latent rapids
My first time watching
Well WRC is on Arena Sport since we had Telemach Total TV (cable company) we used to have that channel but it was removed last year so we switched to m:tel m:sat network now we have that network
Sorry for interrupting
crude dagger
I’m go bold and say Craig
crude dagger
But idk if it’s just that I want him to win or that I actually believe he’ll win
autumn briar
and I'm betting Neuville for the championship
exotic meadow
I dont think Toyota is that competitive this year
crude dagger
He almost won last year right?
He’s almost won 2 years in a row
exotic meadow
He almost won last year right?
lol... he lost twice the championship in final rally, both in Monza
naive smelt
Yeah so safe bet now Ogier is gone
Hang on are you saying who’s gonna win the rallye or the championship?
exotic meadow
2020 Ogier was on other planet, 2021 he was likely to get it until he crashed and stalled during Stage 3
lost 17 seconds, and the championship
naive smelt
💔
exotic meadow
yea quite heartbreaking
crude dagger
2020 was heartbreaking 💔
exotic meadow
I have pic with greensmith lol
tight quiver
exotic meadow
idk what happened to Tanak since Montecarlo 2020
crude dagger
Oliver solberg just liked my tweet 😎
tight quiver
ayo what
naive smelt
I love how danne doesn’t even bother changing the spelling but everyone gets what he’s saying by now 💀
tight quiver
pog
latent rapids
I saw a flair
tight quiver
latent rapids
What does the Flair on WRC do?
tight quiver
10:34.0
naive smelt
Yeah even on cam you could see he was slow
crude dagger
Must have made a mistake
exotic meadow
Evans usually is like this, slow to understand the car firstly
crude dagger
Yea…
latent rapids
15.9 slower
exotic meadow
then the track has get worse
exotic meadow
it's because of the asphalt conditions
it's getting worse and worse
Yea but they all slowing
crude dagger
it's because of the asphalt conditions
But surely it can’t be that much
exotic meadow
idk
latent rapids
26.0 slower
crude dagger
That’s not good
tight quiver
this is gonna hurt for the reast of the weekend
crude dagger
But Kalle must improve on asphalt
tight quiver
kalle had a spin
crude dagger
kalle had a spin
Yeah
daring nacelle
26 is. Alot for conditions
crude dagger
26 is. Alot for conditions
He spun
daring nacelle
yh
daring nacelle
Greensmith could be 26 off if the conditions were in his favour
he's just a bit ass innit
latent rapids
everyone seems to have problems
Because they are getting used to thier new cars
exotic meadow
but like 25 seconds are way too much for conditions, there's something definitely wrong
crude dagger
Yes Good stage from Craig
autumn briar
Neuville 4th?
lone zodiac
yessir
autumn briar
atm?
tight quiver
si
autumn briar
crude dagger
Here comes Gus
tight quiver
solberg and kalle
glacial ivy
really want ogier to break loeb's record
autumn briar
Neuville
tight quiver
but ogier isnt doing full time
glacial ivy
but ogier isnt doing full time
oh yeah true
tight quiver
OTT TÄNAK WASHED
exotic meadow
ott tanak is gone
naive smelt
Neuville bc fwench
autumn briar
tight quiver
loeb is quick
foggy fulcrum
who be rallying
autumn briar
Neuville is Belgian
glacial ivy
Neuville bc fwench
i mean yeah i have this love for the french in rallying lmaooo
tight quiver
who be rallying
glacial ivy
his teammate is martjin correct?
crude dagger
🐐🐐
latent rapids
Škoda best car in the Balkans
crude dagger
Loeb is telling Isabelle off bc she went too fast
As he should
naive smelt
Yeah I’m just giving you the tidbits of info I get from the french broadcast
foggy fulcrum
dude there's a Ford x Red Bull team?
somber compass
Loeb still has it 🔥
crude dagger
Yeah I’m just giving you the tidbits of info I get from the french broadcast
Ok 👍🏻 thx
naive smelt
He really is a fucking legend
tight quiver
dude there's a Ford x Red Bull team?
3/4 Ford drivers are red bull sponsored
so Gus Greensmith is running without red bull
somber compass
He really is a fucking legend
He’s 47 years old bro.
foggy fulcrum
well, one of them is who i support then 🤣
somber compass
It’s simply insane
crude dagger
3/4 Ford drivers are red bull sponsored
I think most of the field is sponsored by them
naive smelt
I KNOW
tight quiver
yes
naive smelt
What a legend
tight quiver
solberg is monster sponsored
latent rapids
Yes Citroen the king for WRC and motorsport
somber compass
ogier carrying Toyota
quartz pike
WRC results of Stage 1
And after them, the chaos
foggy fulcrum
honestly, having just looked through the WRC entry sheet, wow that's pretty depressing
it's such a shame they're doing such a bad job of marketing it too
somber compass
prime WRC had 4 teams fully committing at max
tight quiver
FIA boss is gonna try everything to get more manfactuers in Rally1
somber compass
it’s true, it’s not marketed anymore
somber compass
but it’s not as if the number of manufacturers is bad
foggy fulcrum
like, legitimately, even the super easy shit they're not doing
where's their youtube?
where's their tiktok?
foggy fulcrum
there's fuck all on it
somber compass
it exists
foggy fulcrum
yeah but it's bad
somber compass
but it’s really shit
tight quiver
WRC+ is too expensive
foggy fulcrum
yeah insanely expensive
tight quiver
local broadcasters doesnt have all the stages
foggy fulcrum
they need to put full stage replays up on youtube at the very least
foggy fulcrum
like, doesn't have to be all of them but some of them
tight quiver
WRC+ and WRX+ should combine
both are stupidly expensive
so combined them into 1 affordable package
foggy fulcrum
what
I mean, look at the ROI that it gets WEC, or NASCAR
How are people meant to get into WRC if they can't even watch it before they've started paying?
somber compass
full stage replays is a bit much I think
foggy fulcrum
it's the bare minimum
somber compass
F1 doesn’t do that
somber compass
F1 do sufficient highlights, I would do that for the WRC too
somber compass
debatable
foggy fulcrum
not really
somber compass
it’s definitely debatable
foggy fulcrum
it definitely isn't
somber compass
rally was extremely popular in the 80s and 90s
foggy fulcrum
and... F1 wasn't?
somber compass
Did I say that?
foggy fulcrum
you did actually yeah
somber compass
no I didn’t
foggy fulcrum
that's exactly what you're implying by saying that
foggy fulcrum
yeah it's called hyperbole
somber compass
I didn’t say “rally was more popular than F1”
you’re implying that F1 was always way bigger than rally
foggy fulcrum
Like, this is entirely besides the point
somber compass
which ain’t true
foggy fulcrum
We're talking about now
somber compass
changing the subject
foggy fulcrum
in the 1980s, youtube didn't exist
so it doesn't really matter who was more popular
F1 doesn't need to upload full races, and hell, it can't
WRC definitely can, given they already have global rights for their entire sport for their streaming platform
somber compass
I didn’t say F1 should do that at all
foggy fulcrum
F1 is also very popular, WRC is very unpopular
You didn't say that, but what you did was say "F1 doesn't do that"
I'm saying F1 doesn't need to
And used examples of other, way more comparable sports, which do and it works
lone zodiac
drive to survive helps F1
somber compass
maybe you should’ve said “is” rather than “was”
foggy fulcrum
it's hyperbole
somber compass
because “was” implies you’re talking about the past
foggy fulcrum
it was never meant to be taken literally and again, it still does not matter
i don't care
there, deleted
somber compass
uploading full stage replays is not the move
foggy fulcrum
why not?
how else are people meant to see what it's like
again, other sports do so much more than that, and it works really well
somber compass
because once people become used to free content, they’ll be unwilling to pay for it later
driving people away
foggy fulcrum
that isn't true at all
somber compass
it is totally true
foggy fulcrum
especially if you're only putting up stage replays
like, not every stage
some stages
and not live, replays
somber compass
why not just highlights?
foggy fulcrum
because highlights are not the same thing
you need people to know what WRC+ actually offers
somber compass
quick google search solves that issue
somber compass
yes, but you can see what it offers
foggy fulcrum
because once people become used to free content, they’ll be unwilling to pay for...
This is just demonstrably wrong and not how marketing works at all
foggy fulcrum
You need people to understand what something is like, before they're willing to pay for it
You have to convince them it's worth paying for
Which you can't do with a feature list, even if they see it, which the vast majority of even people who might care, will never ever do if you're not putting your brand in front of their face
somber compass
It’s extremely hard to convince people to watch an extremely niche discipline
it’s not like F1 where it can appeal to a wider audience
foggy fulcrum
It's extremely fucking hard if you don't even try
F1 is not more niche than rally by any like intrinsic property
somber compass
I didn’t say that
foggy fulcrum
that is exactly what you said
foggy fulcrum
you're comparing WRC to F1
You just said WRC is more niche than F1
which it isn't, except for the fact that F1 is better marketed
somber compass
I’m using it as an example....
foggy fulcrum
which is why it's less niche
vivid stream
It's pretty niche in this Discord, at least. Then again, it's an F1 server.
foggy fulcrum
it's pretty niche everywhere
because they don't market it
which has been my entire argument this entire time
WRC is unpopular, because people do not know it exists, and if they do they can't watch it without either finding one of the few channels which offers it, which probably costs money, and doesn't show every stage, or paying for a subscription service, for which they have no idea how good the broadcast actually is, or if they even like the sport. So it stays unpopular.
somber compass
F1 can be summarised with “fast car goes around track”. That isn’t a hard concept to understand, and it’s why people become fans of the sport because it’s easy to get into. Of course you get into bigger detail once you become more interested in the sport, but as an initial attraction, it’s easy to understand.
WRC on the other hand requires more in-depth explanation- it’s not as simple as F1 as a concept so it’s less attractive.
I’m not disagreeing that WRC gets almost no marketing, but it’s not an easy sport to get into.
somber compass
to you
somber compass
How so?
crude dagger
F1 can be summarised with “fast car goes around track”. That isn’t a hard concep...
Ig it depends where you live, in Sweden WRC is broadcasted on national tv so it’s easy to get into
vivid stream
It's a little more complicated than that, George.
somber compass
that doesn’t explain it at all
glacial ivy
Rally is basically road cars
crazily modified road cars
somber compass
Do you actually watch WRC?
glacial ivy
It's a little more complicated than that, George.
yeah that too
foggy fulcrum
It's a little more complicated than that, George.
And F1 is a lot more complicated than "fast car goes around track"
which is literally what they just stated it was
glacial ivy
i'm a newbie at WRC
vivid stream
I wasn't saying it wasn't.
somber compass
And F1 is a lot more complicated than "fast car goes around track"
you’d say that because you’re an informed fan, to the outsider that’s the simple concept to it
foggy fulcrum
My entire point is you can reduce either of those things
To very very simple terms
F1 is not easier to understand inherently than Rally
at all
somber compass
yea it is
foggy fulcrum
No it isn't
somber compass
fast cars go around track
foggy fulcrum
If you think it is, it's probably because F1 was better marketed than Rally
somber compass
the concept is much more simple
foggy fulcrum
So you're used to the concept by the time you even think about it
Because that's how marketing works
somber compass
love how you just state things and don’t elaborate
foggy fulcrum
I'm not not elaborating
It's just very hard to explain the basic concepts of marketing theory to someone who is just ignoring that they exist
somber compass
I never said that
foggy fulcrum
Everything you've said has demonstrated that
somber compass
Again and again, you’re just stating things that I just didnt say
foggy fulcrum
No, i'm inferring, based on the words you use in the order you're using them
Which is how conversations work
lone zodiac
i think this argument is going nowhere lol
crude dagger
buoyant shale
Both of you are getting a bit heated and away from the first statement
glacial ivy
i think this argument is going nowhere lol
yeah, lets just enjoy the rally event
foggy fulcrum
People would be more likely to pay for WRC+ if WRC put stage replays up on youtube for free
buoyant shale
^
foggy fulcrum
I'm sorry that I got frustrated
foggy fulcrum
Yeah, we get it
lone zodiac
so
foggy fulcrum
What you said already worked
lone zodiac
when is next SS
tight quiver
iisnt it like now
glacial ivy
it must be so hard being a co-driver
imagine the amount of pressure put on you lmao
stutter once and the car falls off the cliff
well not necessarily
but
crude dagger
Col de Turini time
glacial ivy
it messes up the driver
lone zodiac
bruh
crude dagger
Bruh Kalle is like super super slow
vivid stream
- With a Puma.
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naive smelt
OLLIE NOOOO
vivid stream
I'm still in awe that we've made a crossover this fast.
crude dagger
😕
naive smelt
someone check on danne
glacial ivy
someone check on danne
crying rn
naive smelt
Wailing in the streets like the ghost of Christmas past
exotic meadow
gap between neuville and Evans?
oh nvm
what if Greensmith is actually a championship contender in 2022
tight quiver
someone check on danne
DEAD
oh
caps
but dead
the puma
is literally
the fastest car
vivid stream
A crossover.
naive smelt
Loeb feeeessssttttt
exotic meadow
fucking hell they went from last to first in a season
vivid stream
European Ford supremacy.
I have to say, though, that Yaris is the nicest looking car out there, today.
exotic meadow
who gonna replace Ogier and Loeb tho
exotic meadow
I have to say, though, that Yaris is the nicest looking car out there, today.
puma>>>
exotic meadow
yea but livery is sick as hell
vivid stream
I guess it kind of looks like a hatchback, the more I look at it.
exotic meadow
ye
somber compass
the fastest car
I predicted this months ago
vivid stream
I'm not too big on the lightning livery, I have to be honest.
I like the flat colors on the i20s and Yaris(es).
somber compass
I love the lightning
exotic meadow
next stage tomorrow morning right?
vivid stream
I think.
naive smelt
Yeah like 8am
somber compass
stage 3 starts at 9:14 local time
tight quiver
gryazin so good he literally lit
vivid stream
Loeb disappears for a while, comes back, and immediately starts going ham on everyone.
What a guy.
tight quiver
kalle gets beaten by a WRC2
glacial ivy
monte carlo time?
vivid stream
There was a Nitro scam.
glacial ivy
There was a Nitro scam.
bruh
vivid stream
It got yoinked.
vivid stream
I think it was the same account.
foggy fulcrum
open raptor
W
crude dagger
or is it not even done
No it finishes on Sunday
drifting sentinel
bought WRC+ for this season
impressed by the video player, miles better than F1TV lmfao
drifting sentinel
tell that to FOM 😩
glacial ivy
No it finishes on Sunday
yeah i know but for the current stage last night
what was the podium
the one from 20:30 to 21:30
crude dagger
bought WRC+ for this season
Heheh I have the privilege that out national TV sends it for free 😌
drifting sentinel
Heheh I have the privilege that out national TV sends it for free 😌
that's nice, no channel in all of American television streams WRC
eternal sluice
fuck
wrc switched broadcasters in aus
at least wrc plus is cheaper but still annoying
sacred geyser
He's doing part time for M-Sport Ford correct
eternal sluice
ah
sacred geyser
also Ogier's doing part time this year, not full time
crude dagger
These cars man
They’re so beautiful
They nailed the engine sounds
Ohhhhh
Ogier
naive smelt
OGIER
exotic meadow
what happened
crude dagger
Hit the armco last in the corner
Lost the back
Neuville spun
Evans also almost lost it same place
Someone’s gonna crash
drifting sentinel
icey makes it spicy
tight quiver
yes its monaco
crude dagger
Yea ofc I mean in that part
drifting sentinel
conditions worse than last night
can’t get over the Toyota backfire
sounds like an A10 Warthog machine gun spray
drifting sentinel
that’s mad
what’s new
Puma looks amazing to drive
Loebbbbb
man I wish him and Ogier were doing full time
stone sorrel
tight quiver
037
tight quiver
"You see all the smoke in the car?! I am crying before the stage and I can't breathe on the stage! I lost full focus in the stage and then I had no gear shift at the end. I am just here to finish and get experience, and I'm trying as good as I can. It's how it is."
- Oliver Solberg
tight quiver
tight quiver
ogier slow
tacit garden
wtf
oh
that explains it
I was already wondering because in the video the rollover didn't look that bad
opal ember
20m is pretty deep
crude dagger
Evans wow
exotic meadow
why ogier was so slow tho
crude dagger
🐐
tight quiver
is adrian alright down there
onyx sluice
Yeah seems like it. He did overestimate the corner tho
naive smelt
well, I know french
onyx sluice
Alright
buoyant shale
Love Monte Carlos stages
brittle hedge
Well he's certainly using the entire width of the road, lmao
buoyant shale
Jesus lmao
Commitment
Yknow the change from French to English commands is funny
Now i wanna hear Dutch ones
brittle hedge
Feed is out?
crude dagger
GreAt
buoyant shale
Yeah is for me
crude dagger
Now it’s back
buoyant shale
Not for me
brittle hedge
It's coming, came back for me now
buoyant shale
Oh it back
brittle hedge
Fuck me that's quick
brittle hedge
Posture, Evans. Posture!
buoyant shale
Wait why does the Japanese do the commands in English
exotic meadow
preference maybe
I mean it's quite difficult to give instructions screaming Japanese
go on gus
crude dagger
Ford has nailed the new regulation
exotic meadow
wow ogier and Evans had same S6
exotic meadow
Ford has nailed the new regulation
indeed
crude dagger
Changing from the fiesta to puma was a good idea
exotic meadow
GO ON GUS
ahh little bit slow on the end but very very solid
seems like it will be battle of Britons
Evans vs Greensmith
exotic meadow
well Loeb is loeab
it's like if shumacher comes back to Mercedes
wouldn't expect much less
but yea this shows how good he is
brittle hedge
Like my commentators are saying, with experience you dare to drive slower (entering corners), which you need to do on asphalt
Becomes really obvious watching Loeb
exotic meadow
he's not a 9 time world champion for nothing
brittle hedge
He breaks soooo far into the corners, lots of grip
exotic meadow
my god 3 seconds
wow
four stages in a row
btw
wanna see some epic motorsport aswell
brittle hedge
Haha, that question had no correct answer
exotic meadow
more like #feeder-series tho
brittle hedge
Let's go Mikkelsen! ÅTTI HØYRE, ÅPNER
tired cargo
crude dagger
Kalle is back
tired cargo
the fucking french , when will they release the patent for rally to others?
@unkempt arrow
glacial ivy
the french are big in this sport
tight quiver
@naive smelt
buoyant shale
I mean it's quite difficult to give instructions screaming Japanese
Ah no his codriver is Irish
unkempt arrow
the fucking french , when will they release the patent for rally to others?
<@31...
hehehe
i hope Loeb does the whole season
tight quiver
i doubt he will tho
glacial ivy
i hope Loeb does the whole season
me too
unkempt arrow
dominates to get a 10th title to prove himself he still has it
tired cargo
🙏
glacial ivy
lol imagine 10th championship win
unkempt arrow
and everyone else is left in tears
tired cargo
if he gets it my fucking
crude dagger
the fucking french , when will they release the patent for rally to others?
<@31...
The French monarchy also eventually fell
naive smelt
<@!814453671873871903>
🥲 ❤️
unkempt arrow
dude's 47 hehe
naive smelt
naaaaaaaah
unkempt arrow
she watched Rallye when Saab won the titles
naive smelt
i hope Loeb does the whole season
wait that's actually a possibility?
glacial ivy
Saab is based
unkempt arrow
i have no clue, i hope
glacial ivy
both plane and car manufacture
unkempt arrow
or like, enough of the season so he can win the title
glacial ivy
pretty cool company
tight quiver
both plane and car manufacture
plane only now 
naive smelt
ah damnit reb you brought my hopes up
glacial ivy
plane only now <:saddi:647507527201980437>
:(
crude dagger
Saab is based
As we say in Sweden “sälj aset annars byt” “sell the shit or change”😂😂
unkempt arrow
lol
glacial ivy
As we say in Sweden “sälj aset annars byt” “sell the shit or change”😂😂
lmfaooo
buoyant shale
Katsuka quicc
unkempt arrow
ah damnit reb you brought my hopes up
sorry boo 😦
tight quiver
As we say in Sweden “sälj aset annars byt” “sell the shit or change”😂😂
one of my family memebers loves saabs
crude dagger
That’s what SAAB stands for
tight quiver
si
tight quiver
saabs are still around here
crude dagger
one of my family memebers loves saabs
Yeah me too ofc ofc it’s Swedish so have to like it
buoyant shale
I see occasional Saabs
glacial ivy
there is a bunch of older cars from the 90's here
tight quiver
TAKAMOTO
crude dagger
My dad used to make the engines for Saab
glacial ivy
a bunch of cars that stopped production
glacial ivy
TAKAMOTO
Its actually takumi thats behind the wheel man (initial D reference)
lmaooo
crude dagger
Craig 👊
tight quiver
BREEN
tight quiver
what are your opinions
2 paddles if i was driving
that move with the steering wheel
and not like the WRC cars have
brittle hedge
Damn Greensmith
crude dagger
Gus going for that stage win
buoyant shale
I dont have a shifter on my wheel yet so use flappy paddles
glacial ivy
gussss
crude dagger
Obviously it’s cause he has a Swedish Co-Driver🇸🇪
brittle hedge
Obviously it’s cause he has a Swedish Co-Driver🇸🇪
With an incredibly sexy name
tight quiver
no
brittle hedge
Ouch
glacial ivy
lmaooo
tight quiver
I want gus to win his first stage
crude dagger
With an incredibly sexy name
Jonas
crude dagger
Eyyyy
tight quiver
brittle hedge
Oh my
buoyant shale
inb4 goes fastes anyway
brittle hedge
"No girboks issue this time around"