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midnight kite
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Yes

foggy fulcrum
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lol

midnight kite
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I can't comprehend the bruhh-ness of both AM Porsche's crashing in the same spot

foggy fulcrum
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annnnd green again

tight quiver
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aand red

foggy fulcrum
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what time does the race start tomorrow, 13:00 in Spa?

midnight kite
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I wonder if it will be deleted for Text wall....

foggy fulcrum
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šŸ

harsh crown
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whats happening atm

foggy fulcrum
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GT qualifying just finishing

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final laps

buoyant shale
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Endurance pits is used by support series this weekend, which is Spanish F4

Yes I know that's ironic, Spanish F4 in Belgium, idk why

foggy fulcrum
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that's hilarious

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WEC's using the grand prix pits

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but F4's using enduro 🤣

buoyant shale
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Grand Prix pits are larger and more luxurious i think so

foggy fulcrum
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i just mean the layout

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lmao someone forgot to bleep that team radio šŸ˜‚

buoyant shale
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FIA about to bonk someone for saying curse word >:(

foggy fulcrum
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i wish WEC would put more than the car number in the timing tower

buoyant shale
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Yes

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I don't know at all who is who

foggy fulcrum
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like i know what the 47 is lmao

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tell me what brand, and who is driving it please lmao

buoyant shale
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I know the Toyotas and Alpine numbers. That's it.

foggy fulcrum
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i know the 91 and 92 are Porsches but

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i don't even know which one is which 🤣

buoyant shale
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Ya boi Kamui about to carry the 8

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Feck

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It's Nakajima

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shit shit shit Kamui is in the cursed #7 I forgot

foggy fulcrum
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😬

buoyant shale
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I damn wished Kamui was in the 8 lol

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Whooooo is driving the Racing Team Nederland?

foggy fulcrum
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god i hate how Gazoo's almost become a normal word for me

buoyant shale
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Oh Kamui is going to carry the #7

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He's driving that

foggy fulcrum
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And welcome, to the first ever Hypercar competitive running

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*the use of "competitive" is relative here

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I am genuinely very excited for LMH but... it's not launching with a bang

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Kobayashi 2:00.747

spare matrix
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i am speed

foggy fulcrum
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Nakajima 2:01.266

spare matrix
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he really said that

lethal yacht
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what motorsport caterogy is on now

foggy fulcrum
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WEC

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currently LMH/LMP1/LMP2 qualifying for the 6h Spa

spark bay
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Any way to watch?

buoyant shale
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Well Alpine is a LMP1 but they say it's a LMH ros

foggy fulcrum
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it's like £4 for a month

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the 7 has pitted?

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and the 8!

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the Alpine LMP1 hasn't come out yet

foggy fulcrum
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They turned a Rebellion LMP1 car into an Alpine LMH with no effort

buoyant shale
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And now that LMP1 LMH seems to not be qualifying

foggy fulcrum
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tin-foil hat time

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it's so LMH is on pole

buoyant shale
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OH THERE IS THE ALPINE

foggy fulcrum
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WOO

earnest lagoon
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Is there YouTube stream?

foggy fulcrum
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not afaik

earnest lagoon
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Ok sad

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Will look if it's on a free TV channel

buoyant shale
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It's basically almost done anyway

earnest lagoon
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Ah

foggy fulcrum
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Lapierre 2:02.652

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L M H ON POLE

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an LMP2 car beat him holy shit

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LMP2 just beat an LMP1 car dude

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right the race starts at noon UK time tomorrow

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13:00 local time

spark bay
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BASED LMP2

foggy fulcrum
spark bay
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Which lmp2 was it

modern spade
buoyant shale
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It was Van Der Garde

foggy fulcrum
modern spade
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ooh yes

foggy fulcrum
modern spade
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RTN based

modern spade
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and i butchered the spelling

foggy fulcrum
buoyant shale
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Is G-Drive Russian?

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Because there's no flag

foggy fulcrum
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yes

halcyon pelican
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Hey one qn

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When will LMDh join WEC

foggy fulcrum
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iirc probably next year

warped dome
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whats the D in the name

foggy fulcrum
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Daytona

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Le Mans Daytona h

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Because it'll run in both IMSA and WEC

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(the h stands for h)

tight quiver
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the h stands for h

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cool

foggy fulcrum
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h

tight quiver
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hybrid isnt it?

foggy fulcrum
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no

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well maybe

tight quiver
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oh

foggy fulcrum
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but legitimately there is no official answer

tight quiver
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just h

foggy fulcrum
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i think it's supposed to be both hypercar and hybrid

tight quiver
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ok cool

foggy fulcrum
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which is why they won't give us a straight answer

tight quiver
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LMDhh

foggy fulcrum
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h

tight quiver
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h

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just h

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i love it

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h

midnight kite
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A fucking LMP2 is faster than the other Hypercar.... we live in a society...

midnight kite
tight quiver
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Daytona Protoype i

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i

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the i

floral urchinBOT
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Spa WEC: Kobayashi gifts Toyota first Hypercar pole

In the #7 Toyota Kobayashi set a time of 2m00.747s in the first qualifying session of the World Endurance Championship's new Hypercar era, half a second quicker than teammate Kazuki Nakajima in the #8 sister car.
During a cold but dry qualifying session United Autosports' Filipe Albuquerque confirmed his rapid pace from testing by proving to be the class of the LMP2 field, claiming pole by six ...Keep reading

midnight kite
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Actually, jk, the i means International willmao

foggy fulcrum
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which in itself was optimistic

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"We go to Canada once a year! That counts!"

lethal yacht
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honestly the toyota's sound amazing onboard

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i love the sound so much

solar narwhal
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only today did I learn that this was actually a thing

lethal yacht
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Yeah they're gorgeous sounding bois tho... Not enough revs grrr

solar narwhal
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yeah I'm still shocked that they used V12 engines of all things

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plus I love how the cars looked in it

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they kinda look like modernized late 90s-early 2000s F1 cars

lethal yacht
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They... Kinda are

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They're Panoz DP09's

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Built from DP01's

solar sparrow
lethal yacht
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Correct...

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A car that ticks all the boxes but for the wrong time

normal spear
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ah yes the series that naturally jumped from football clubs to nations for its final year

floral urchinBOT
lethal yacht
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WAIT THAT'S THIS WEEKEND!?

warped dome
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poggers motorsport

covert mason
lethal steeple
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Hello from Jerez Of the Frontier

midnight kite
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He still hold on to his bike from that point

warped dome
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bro what

timber umbra
warped dome
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denso

floral urchinBOT
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Date for Le Mans 24 Hours won't change again, even without fans

Race organiser the Automobile Club de l'Ouest, also the promoter of the FIA World Endurance Championship of which Le Mans is the blue riband round, has stated that there are no plans to push back this year's from August 21/22 to ensure that spectators can be accommodated.
ACO president Pierre Fillon said: "Whatever happens Le Mans will not change [date], even if it is without spectators.
"We ...Keep reading

modern spade
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ACO are such snobs

tight quiver
floral urchinBOT
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Project 1 GTE Am team withdraws from WEC Spa after crashes

Project 1 lost its #46 Porsche 911 RSR-19 during the pre-season Prologue test after a crash for Anders Buchardt at Les Combes, which meant the entry he shares with Dennis Olsen and Axcil Jefferies is unable to race at the weekend.
The team's remaining car, the #56 Porsche 911 shared by Egidio Perfetti, Matteo Cairoli and Riccardo Pera, has also been withdrawn after a massive crash during ...Keep reading

floral urchinBOT
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Toyota: Hypercars won't always outpace LMP2s in race trim

Toyota technical boss Pascal Vasselon explained that the 1.6s margin between Kamui Kobayashi's pole position in the new Toyota GR010 Hybrid and Filipe Albuquerque's quickest time in LMP2 aboard the United Autosports Oreca 07 will disappear at times according to the fuel load and tyres the cars are running during Saturday's Spa 6 Hours.
"To be in front of the LMP2s we needed to be on low fuel; ...Keep reading

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Deletraz to fill in for van der Zande at Inter Europol

Swiss driver Deletraz is also set to race for the Polish team in September Fuji's round, as van der Zande will be away on IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship duty with Chip Ganassi Racing.
The Portimao WEC race on June 13 falls on the same weekend as IMSA's Detroit fixture, while the Fuji event on September 25-26 clashes with IMSA's rescheduled Long Beach round.
For those events ...Keep reading

arctic wyvern
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Is motogp in Portugal rn?

lethal yacht
lethal yacht
arctic wyvern
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Eurosport doesn’t have the live tag but it only says race

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I thought motogp was 2 weeks ago

tight quiver
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many car go arouind circuit

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lets watch

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soo many cars

buoyant shale
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There was even a car with some cans behind it doing a lap a bit ago

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Probably was just married

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Mfw embed fail

tight quiver
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3 min

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car driving

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someone is in the barrier

chrome grove
dense wasp
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what motorsport is going on

sleek elbow
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formula

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juan

tight quiver
final cloak
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Yay cars go fast

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When is Spa 6h

hearty anchor
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about 10 mins time?

stuck echo
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what's this?

tight quiver
stuck echo
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oh

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thanks

midnight kite
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A fucking 3 wide!!

spare matrix
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its amazing to see the spacial awareness of the drivers in the lower classes

tight quiver
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yeah

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i would not be able to do that like them

tawdry aurora
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What a bad start to the day for that #86 porsche. I'd hate to be the one to bin it in warmup prior to the race

spare matrix
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thats a bummer

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how many cars are in this race

tight quiver
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many

spare matrix
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i heard 165 before but that cant be right

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unless it is

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then it will be

tight quiver
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i think its around there somewhere

native oasis
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whats on?

spare matrix
native oasis
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nice

open raptor
tawdry aurora
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alrighty, formation lap. lets get this show going

tight quiver
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6hr of spa starting?

tawdry aurora
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Yeah, they're about done with the formation lap

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I think it's simply hilarious that sean galael and stoffel vandoorne are teammates this weekend. I know they compete in Asian Le Mans together but it always feels like an odd combo, merc reserve driver and scrub pay driver

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The fastest LMP2 car is faster through sector two than the toyotas

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The extra weight of the hypercars really packs a punch

buoyant shale
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Here comes the Alpine

foggy fulcrum
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I will be surprised if that 777 Aston makes it to the end of this stint

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Very twitchy around other cars

midnight kite
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D'STATION is really interesting since they're from SuperGT

foggy fulcrum
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Oops

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ā€œYellow flags are on at turns one, one, and oneā€

tawdry aurora
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The slow motion shots of the cars going through eau rouge at the start of the race are breathtaking

halcyon pelican
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is the WEC on rn?

tawdry aurora
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yeah, 31 minutes in

midnight kite
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Yes

tawdry aurora
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1-2 toyota rn, big surprise

foggy fulcrum
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Well, they are the only hypercars

midnight kite
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Really big... Imagine Alpine getting wrecked by Unitedwillmao

tawdry aurora
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Yeah it'll get more interesting when SCG enters later this year

foggy fulcrum
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Hopefully

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But missing Spa is not good

tawdry aurora
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I hope the SCG is as fast as it is beautiful

midnight kite
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Alpine wins come from behind hmmwhat

foggy fulcrum
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Alpine can come @ me about calling them a hypercar when they’ve got a big enough fuel tank

tawdry aurora
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Alpine is lapping as fast as the toyotas rn, getting stuck behind the LMP2 car for so long really screwed em

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It's going to be interesting to see le mans this year. I'm so used to the LMP1 cars driving circles around the rest of the field

midnight kite
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Alpine with the ballast but still managing Op lap times

foggy fulcrum
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Tf is a texican

tight quiver
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the hypercar class is 3 cars lmao

midnight kite
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Texas Mexican

foggy fulcrum
tawdry aurora
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Van doorne in the #28 LMP2 is lapping 1 sec slower than toyotas rn, he is f'n fast

tight quiver
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omegalul

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free podium

foggy fulcrum
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The Alpine is an LMP1 car

tight quiver
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alpine free class win

midnight kite
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It's an LMP1 hiding to be a Hypercar

foggy fulcrum
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No, cuz they’re running in hypercar

tight quiver
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this shit hella confsuing

foggy fulcrum
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There is no longer an LMP1 class in WEC

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So the Rebellion LMP1 car has become an Alpine Hypercar

midnight kite
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Alpine rebranded Rebellion and used their old LMP1, FIA and ACO let them coz making a new car is sadmattia

foggy fulcrum
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While almost nothing has changed

tight quiver
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lmp2 cars are hot

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why are they so hot

tawdry aurora
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And toyota's hypercar is like 90% similar to the LMP1 but it's like 200kg heavier and a 300hp down

midnight kite
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The only thing they did to Alpine was add a fuck ton of weight ballast and minimize their fuel cell, which isn't even small at all

hearty anchor
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yeah it's not like the toyota is a brand new car either

midnight kite
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It technically is, just the concept that's the same

tawdry aurora
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I'd love to see a road version of the toyota hypercar

waxen forge
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motogp?

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oh 6h spa

tight quiver
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wec

foggy fulcrum
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LMDh is going to be so good, combining LMP2 and DPi and running it everywhere

midnight kite
foggy fulcrum
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Also h

tight quiver
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hypercars look so bad lmao

waxen forge
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the magnussens are in it right?

tight quiver
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47 spin again

waxen forge
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anyways motogp q1 started

tawdry aurora
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motogp is only shown on tape delay in the US without a vpn fml

foggy fulcrum
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Can you let me know when Moto GP quali ends so I can take it out of the channel description? @waxen forge

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Woah that was fortunate

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Could’ve collected someone or hit the wall

tight quiver
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lmp2 moment

hearty anchor
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fucking amateur hour

tawdry aurora
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oof

foggy fulcrum
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Bloody P2s

tawdry aurora
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Ben Keating is the pay driver texan that owns a bunch of car dealerships lmao

halcyon pelican
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montoya oof

hearty anchor
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so stupid

waxen forge
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only motogp or including moto2 quali as well?

foggy fulcrum
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Whichever you think might be interesting

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Thanks

halcyon pelican
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YIKES

tawdry aurora
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that hiccup didn't even result in a lead change

halcyon pelican
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DRAMA

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Possible penalty?

waxen forge
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marc marquez out of q1

foggy fulcrum
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98 drive through

waxen forge
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morbidelli and binder through to q2

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14th now

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oliveira time deleted

halcyon pelican
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Leader change

tawdry aurora
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I'm so curious to see what is displayed on the LCD screen at the end of the fuel hose

halcyon pelican
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probably a time

foggy fulcrum
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Car 21 stop go causing a collision

waxen forge
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nvm

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wanted to post 13th to 23rd positions

buoyant shale
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Oh there's a official yt stream

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Indonesian tho

tawdry aurora
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link?

buoyant shale
halcyon pelican
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ahahah

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Hyper

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Car slower than GTE in the middle sectors

native oasis
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Oof

hearty anchor
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god damnit i hate hypercar so much

tawdry aurora
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at least alpine is guaranteed a podium today

foggy fulcrum
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They aren’t though

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That’s the thing

tawdry aurora
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you're right lmao

foggy fulcrum
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It’s pretty unlikely, but it’s genuinely not impossible for them to get beat by a P2

halcyon pelican
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F

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they had 6s under 35s during the fuel stop

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Penalty

cursive knoll
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,

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.

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.,

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.,

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,.

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.,

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,.

halcyon pelican
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???

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thats 7 not 6

tawdry aurora
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It's problematic if it takes a half hour for a hypercar to pass an LMP2

halcyon pelican
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Good

cursive knoll
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what motorsport are we chatting?

waxen forge
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see the channel description

halcyon pelican
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Wec

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kinda messy tbh

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Even FE has its own chat

tawdry aurora
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idc motogp quali will end soon

waxen forge
midnight kite
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Yes but actually no

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These are confusing times

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MotoE is part of the current MotoGP support series but it's an EV motorsport

hearty anchor
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tbh i dont really see the point of EV motorsports either

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but i guess it makes sense if it's to try and prevent saturation of all other series ending up in a single channel

waxen forge
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quartararo is on provisional pole

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lmao i love how LCR doing better than repsol honda

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row 1 fabio franky and jack

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fabio pole

midnight kite
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Hard to tell who'll get Pole atm

waxen forge
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taka 5th nice

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taka to snatch a podium/win?

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it ended

foggy fulcrum
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Bloody hell these P2s man

midnight kite
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Wow, my stream is so far behind then... willmao

tawdry aurora
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montoya is driving angry

foggy fulcrum
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Jesus

foggy fulcrum
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The P2s are worse IRL than they are in iracing

hearty anchor
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they're gonna kill someone if they keep this bullshit up

waxen forge
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4 consecutive poles by fabio at jerez

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fabio surely does love jerez

foggy fulcrum
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The hypercars do feel a bit… chunky

midnight kite
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I wonder if LCR could even at least get a podium this season, given that Honda put all their hopes on Marquez outriding the hell out of the RC213V

waxen forge
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when will taka will get his 1st podium

midnight kite
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Imagine moving from LMP2 to the Top Class but get fucked by BoP and Ballast and still have the same pace as your old LMP2 predecessor willmao

runic patio
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Anyone watching euroformula?

hearty anchor
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hourly reminder that i hate hypercar with a passion

foggy fulcrum
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If someone is asking how they can watch F1 in an F1 channel, yes

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I’m just disappointed with Hypercar rn

runic patio
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Guys what are u watching?

foggy fulcrum
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I feel like it can be good, but it isn’t

hearty anchor
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right now it's just LMP1H with extra steps

foggy fulcrum
hearty anchor
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at least the alpine isn't a million miles away

waxen forge
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moto2 quali later later

foggy fulcrum
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but this channel is a broad church, if it’s motorsports, feel free

hearty anchor
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at this point i'm just fully behind LMDh

foggy fulcrum
waxen forge
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ye

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GP over

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moto2 next

foggy fulcrum
midnight kite
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Just gonna say, Euroformula can be in #feeder-series coz Euroformula is F4

foggy fulcrum
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Kenshi, are you not a helper by choice btw?

midnight kite
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Sorry, force of habit

foggy fulcrum
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No, I mean like

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Apply

midnight kite
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I'd like, but I'm a bit douchey at times

foggy fulcrum
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You’d make a great helper

midnight kite
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I feel like Dh is a more better path for the Top Class of Endurance Racing coz it's way cheaper and more affordable for many manufacturers

waxen forge
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68 degrees lean angle save from franky 😳

halcyon pelican
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HyperCar kinda close rn

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yeet

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F

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they pitted

midnight kite
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LMH has 2 legit entrants and 2 wack jokes atm

foggy fulcrum
native oasis
halcyon pelican
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When will Bykolles return

foggy fulcrum
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Next year?

halcyon pelican
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oof

foggy fulcrum
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The only 2021 Hypercar left to launch is the SCG

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I can’t believe they missed Spa

midnight kite
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SCG is like the worst PR stunt I could imagine

tawdry aurora
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I'm excited but worried for SCG

midnight kite
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SCG's PR is like Rich Energy but less ambitious

foggy fulcrum
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Hypercar is only going to hit its stride when Ferrari join

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Which is supposedly 23 assuming they don’t pull out or push it back

midnight kite
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Peugeot next year tho.. and Ferrari debut in 2023 would be hmmwhat

foggy fulcrum
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Yeah exactly, three manufacturers is a proper competition

halcyon pelican
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Cant wait for LMDH

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Will those cars race in WEC too

foggy fulcrum
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Watching Peugeot finish behind Toyota every race next year will be pretty dull

foggy fulcrum
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LMDh is basically meant to replace LMP2 and DPi

hearty anchor
foggy fulcrum
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So it’ll run in WEC and IMSA

hearty anchor
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which is just a complete no-brainer

foggy fulcrum
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Hence, Le Mans, Daytona, h

tight quiver
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h

foggy fulcrum
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I find it hilarious they won’t just say it means hybrid

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It’s officially just h

tawdry aurora
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Are non hybrids allowed in LMDH?

foggy fulcrum
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I don’t believe so

waxen forge
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moto2 quali started

foggy fulcrum
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Acura/Honda, Audi, and Porsche have all already confirmed LMDh programmes

midnight kite
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Quite a grat question don't you think?oconstare

hearty anchor
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that's another thing i dont like about hypercar

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it's potentially splitting the entries

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i'd much rather see everyone aligned to hypercar, or everyone aligned to LMDpiH

waxen forge
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cmon hafizh šŸ‡²šŸ‡¾ rosfan

hearty anchor
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it's weck

tawdry aurora
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I say WECK but I'm a dumb american so

midnight kite
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I'm used to the initials but I sometimes say wheck as wellwillmao

hearty anchor
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once again i am objectively correct

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lots of people within the series call it weck

halcyon pelican
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Yeet

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Alpine has a chance to get the lead

foggy fulcrum
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I pronounce it WEC because saying the letters is far too many syllables and I’m lazy

hearty anchor
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plus consider the pronunciation of IMSA

hearty anchor
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you don't pronounce the individual letters there

foggy fulcrum
weak creek
waxen forge
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sam lowes in q2

foggy fulcrum
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WEC

waxen forge
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this is q1

hearty anchor
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same with weck

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if you pronounce the letters then you're a tryhard

foggy fulcrum
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Oh who synced the bloody perms?

waxen forge
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eemsa

foggy fulcrum
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This one really doesn’t need to be as locked down as the F1 live chats do

waxen forge
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effwan

midnight kite
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I thought it's mmmhhh-sawillmao

hearty anchor
foggy fulcrum
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nope

hearty anchor
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well

foggy fulcrum
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because you can like... pronounce different things differently

hearty anchor
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in casual conversation, lots of people pronounce MSUK as em-suck

tight quiver
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i say weck

hearty anchor
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or alternatively, "those fucking bastards"

halcyon pelican
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ALPINE IN P1

waxen forge
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pls let this happen againšŸ™

foggy fulcrum
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Alpine cannot win

halcyon pelican
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AHAHAHA

weak creek
foggy fulcrum
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if LMH loses to a second hand privateer LMP1...

foggy fulcrum
hearty anchor
#

let everyone know what a shambles carcar is

foggy fulcrum
#

but i wasn't allowed before

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had to change the channel perms 🤣

hearty steeple
halcyon pelican
hearty anchor
#

aaa stop talking about hypercar being good

waxen forge
#

suzuki having a satellite team soon?

foggy fulcrum
#

Hypercar will be good, they'll make sure of that

hearty anchor
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if it was such an attractive class then why are we seeing two toyotas and a rebellion picked up from the LMP1 scrap heap?

waxen forge
#

yari montella down

foggy fulcrum
#

Because of the year it launched @hearty anchor

hearty anchor
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because of covid? we could see it was starting to be on the rocks before that anyway

midnight kite
#

Toyota garage do be vibing

foggy fulcrum
#

LMH is definitely going to be a ramp up

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personally, I'd like to see LMH and LMDh be broadly comparable, I don't see a problem with that

hearty anchor
#

perhaps but i also just can't see it being worthwhile

foggy fulcrum
#

but I know they'll hate it

hearty anchor
#

outside of peugeot, glicc and ferrari, who else would reasonably consider hypercar in the near future?

foggy fulcrum
#

yeah

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well, the other two are ByKolles, and Alpine

hearty anchor
#

and like i said earlier, part of my complaint is that lmdh/hypercar could just end up stealing manufacturers from one another

foggy fulcrum
#

if Alpine choose to actually build one

waxen forge
#

hafizh 14thsadseb

foggy fulcrum
#

But yeah, why would you pick LMH over LMDh

hearty anchor
#

which would be a problem if there isn't reasonable convergence in performance

foggy fulcrum
#

when you can't race LMH in IMSA

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it does sorta feel like LMDh is the class LMH was supposed to be

waxen forge
#

well at least it's an improvement

foggy fulcrum
#

if they were one class, it'd be so much better

waxen forge
#

from last 3 races

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from NTS

midnight kite
#

Just gonna reply to my old msg

foggy fulcrum
waxen forge
foggy fulcrum
#

BUT... ^ that's short a lot of names honestly

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I imagine a lot of current DPi manus would be willing to move over to LMDh

waxen forge
#

seb to WEC after f1? thenna

hearty steeple
foggy fulcrum
#

Cadillac, Nissan, Mazda all on the possible list for sure

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and it being LMDh means privateers are most definitely possible

midnight kite
#

I doubt Alpine would be back for mext year, Grandfathered LMP1's will only last this season

foggy fulcrum
#

Yeah, 2023 looks like the first proper year for both LMH and LMDh

hearty anchor
#

if the changeover cost isn't massive, who would turn down that opportunity?

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especially if it opens up the ability to run in europe

foggy fulcrum
#

Yeah exactly

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it's just DPi but with the added bonus of Le Mans

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if you're already racing that

midnight kite
#

I'm gonna go apeshit if Mazda announces LMDh entry... sad they'll be leaving in the end of this year

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Tractor racing is bacc!!

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Imagine Porsche and Audi having the same front end design for their LMDh cars in 2023 willmao

solar sparrow
#

ok so question

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is the #36 leading fr or is it a pitstop behind

foggy fulcrum
#

I think it's a pitstop behind

solar sparrow
#

thanks!

foggy fulcrum
#

I could be wrong though

foggy fulcrum
solar sparrow
#

yea it was on strategy, the #7 is now leading

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lmao

crude knoll
#

GR still leading?

solar sparrow
#

yeah

foggy fulcrum
#

Yep

arctic wyvern
foggy fulcrum
#

Yeah they’re much more likely to win here 🤣

solar sparrow
#

god the porsche 911 rsr sounds amazing

crude knoll
#

wasnt it last autumn, i forgot which race when kobi blew up a turbo and they changed it within like 20 minutes?

tawdry aurora
#

oh shit, f1 quali is about to start

crude knoll
#

yessir

buoyant shale
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Talk about lucky man

foggy fulcrum
#

What’s an F1?

halcyon pelican
#

its an inferior GP2

tawdry aurora
#

WEC, F1, indycar and motogp. This weekend is good to be a motorsports fan šŸ’Æ

open raptor
#

Yes

prisma blaze
#

What series is this

timber umbra
#

WEC

prisma blaze
#

Ah

foggy fulcrum
#

for future reference, it's in the channel description

prisma blaze
#

Oh

foggy fulcrum
#

Frijns/Habsburg car in the garage

halcyon pelican
#

Alpine P1 again

foggy fulcrum
#

what's the FCY for?

halcyon pelican
#

Debris

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Alpine has a chance yeet

modern spade
#

is the alpine actually in the fight?

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or are they strategy baiting?

halcyon pelican
#

Theyre P2 and made a stop under fcy

modern spade
#

i can see that

halcyon pelican
#

50/50

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Oof

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8 & 22 5s pitstop penalty

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This got me thinking

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There is genuinely only 1 true Hypercar in WEC rn

modern spade
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yep

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Alpine might come with something

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but nothing from them yet

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it's just weird for ACO either way

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If Toyota wins, boring

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If Alpine wins, facepalm at Hypercar regs

halcyon pelican
#

I really miss old LMP1

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AUDI, Porsche & Toyota
Nissan tho ahahaha

foggy fulcrum
modern spade
#

f

foggy fulcrum
#

Toyota have 90 Litres, Alpine have 75?

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But the Toyota is heavier I guess

halcyon pelican
#

Fuck

foggy fulcrum
#

TOYOTA OFF

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7

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KAMUI'S OFF

halcyon pelican
#

KOBAYSAHI CRASHEDS

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ALPINE COULD WIN

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ahaahaha

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HEES STUCK

modern spade
#

oof

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yikes

solar sparrow
#

that was weird

modern spade
#

atleast he's getting pulled out

solar sparrow
#

he overshot either pouhon or malmedy i couldn't quite tell

modern spade
#

but that is their challenge for victory over

foggy fulcrum
#

Please don't celebrate crashes

halcyon pelican
#

alpine laps him

foggy fulcrum
#

It's not acceptable here, just as it isn't in F1 chats

modern spade
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/slippery

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so he locked up on one of em

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and into the barrier

solar sparrow
#

ic, thanks

halcyon pelican
#

United

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might go P3

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hes not pitting?

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wut

foggy fulcrum
#

better to keep going on crap tyres than add a pit stop

halcyon pelican
#

Hypercar vs LMP2

foggy fulcrum
#

good call as well, that FCY would've ended while he was stopped too

halcyon pelican
#

good shit

minor inlet
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yo what's happening rn

#

what channel uk

foggy fulcrum
#

Eurosport 2

minor inlet
#

6 hrs spa?

foggy fulcrum
#

yes

minor inlet
#

ight ty

foggy fulcrum
#

BRUH WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THIS MUSIC?

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Drive through for Car 7!

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holy shit

halcyon pelican
#

DRIVE THROUGH HOLY SHIT

#

f

tight quiver
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for what

foggy fulcrum
#

contact with another car

tight quiver
#

smh

foggy fulcrum
#

but this is why you run Spa

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This kind of practice for both the drivers, and the cars

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someone like SCG just won't have

tight quiver
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imagine a drive through with the whole spa pitlane

foggy fulcrum
#

they're only using the grand prix pits today though

tight quiver
#

yeah

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but if

foggy fulcrum
#

also i don't have to imagine i've played ACC 🤣

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it's pain

tight quiver
#

i never race in spa because of that pitlane

harsh crown
#

what are yall watchin

warped dome
#

wec 6h spa

foggy fulcrum
#

Ouch

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Big bonk for the Alpine

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Toyota is 37 seconds behind the Alpine

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Alpine has a splash and dash to do

halcyon pelican
#

That was a fucking shit move

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What the hell

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Could’ve caused a massive accident

foggy fulcrum
#

I’ve only ever done one multi class race at Spa

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But approaching lower class cars at Eau Rouge was my biggest fear every lap

halcyon pelican
#

Sim racing?

foggy fulcrum
#

Yeah

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Should’ve specified I guess lol

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Welp

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That solves that then

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Alpine puncture

lost oyster
#

ā€œPuncture!ā€ - grosjean’s voice

tight quiver
#

fucking hell

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that was violent

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i was about to say "thats not the track"

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then they started to fly

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is it just me or does it look like the car started to accelerate while off track

foggy fulcrum
#

#7 stopped

halcyon pelican
#

7 dead

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Oh my god

foggy fulcrum
#

#7 Toyota stopped at Le Combes

halcyon pelican
#

Hmm

foggy fulcrum
#

how far behind is the first P2?

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can it get on the overall podium?

spark bay
#

LESGO

buoyant shale
#

WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE #7 WITH BAD LUCK

solar sparrow
#

wtf it's former f1 driver brendon hartley

buoyant shale
#

And former F1 driver Kamui Kobayashi

foggy fulcrum
#

and former F1 driver Ant Davidson

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and former F1 driver Jan Magnussen

spark bay
#

And former f1 driver Sebastian Buemi

foggy fulcrum
#

Car 38 two licence points removed for dangerous driving?

solar sparrow
#

the #36 nearly got shunted

buoyant shale
#

Lmao they penalised the wrong cat

solar sparrow
#

andrƩ big black in p2 pog

foggy fulcrum
buoyant shale
#

At least according to the commentators

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They penalised the 38 while it was the 28

foggy fulcrum
#

yep

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lmao

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they literally read out the wrong number 🤣

solar sparrow
#

brendon hartley with short hair looks odd

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final lap

timber umbra
#

woop

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final lap

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whose winning

solar sparrow
#

the #8 toyota

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#36 in second

timber umbra
#

is that with FERNANDO ALONSO

solar sparrow
#

the #7 in third

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he hasn't been at le mans for 2 years now

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it's buemo kobayashi and hartley

timber umbra
#

ik i was doin a goof

foggy fulcrum
#

Toyota wins in Hypercar

solar sparrow
#

the #92 porsche (estre and jani) wins gte pro

timber umbra
#

alpeen

foggy fulcrum
#

Alpine's second hand LMP1 car comes second in Hypercar

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Which is complete fucking bullshit

halcyon pelican
#

Alpine P2

solar sparrow
#

the #83 wins gte am

halcyon pelican
#

Ayy

solar sparrow
#

and the #22 will win lmp2

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i mean it's nice to see some competition

halcyon pelican
foggy fulcrum
#

Because it's not a Hypercar

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They keep saying it is

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But it just isn't

solar sparrow
#

although they will probably nerf the alpine for le mans

timber umbra
#

Wait

foggy fulcrum
#

They did already nerf it

timber umbra
#

Is the Alpeen not a hypercar?

foggy fulcrum
#

But if they nerf it anymore it'll be slower than the P2s

solar sparrow
#

no

foggy fulcrum
#

no it's literally a pre-owned Oreca

halcyon pelican
#

It’s a nerfed LMP1

solar sparrow
#

it's a grandfathered rebellion r13

foggy fulcrum
#

it's Rebellion's old LMP1 car

chrome grove
#

dn should have won smh

timber umbra
#

bruh

solar sparrow
#

from 2018

foggy fulcrum
#

It isn't a hypercar

halcyon pelican
#

I like the LMP1

halcyon pelican
timber umbra
#

Feel like shit just want LMP1 and Rebellion Racing back

halcyon pelican
#

Remember LMP1 in 2015

foggy fulcrum
halcyon pelican
#

Golden years

solar sparrow
#

can glickenhaus make it in time for portimão

foggy fulcrum
#

And this year will be like last year, but slightly more bullshit

halcyon pelican
#

Still want AUDI

foggy fulcrum
#

if SCG don't launch by Portimao...

#

jesus

solar sparrow
halcyon pelican
#

they’re just full of crap

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SCG

solar sparrow
#

alongside the other LMDh cars

foggy fulcrum
#

Audi don't have a Hypercar programme on the books

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They have an LMDh programme

solar sparrow
#

yes

halcyon pelican
#

LMDH will run as hyper car iirc

#

As in class

chrome grove
#

gg toyota dn should have won tho

foggy fulcrum
#

wait so there'll be three classes?

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that sucks

solar sparrow
#

huh

foggy fulcrum
#

Hypercar, GTE Pro, GTE Am

solar sparrow
#

what about LMP2

chrome grove
#

^

foggy fulcrum
#

I'd assumed they'd be running

LMH to replace LMP1

LMDh to replace LMP2

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Because LMDh is a replacement for LMP2

chrome grove
#

i want LMP0

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no rules

foggy fulcrum
#

god the info on this is so lacking

chrome grove
#

everybody goes crazy

solar sparrow
#

group c happened

foggy fulcrum
#

how do they launch a whole new era with so little information about it

solar sparrow
#

and it was kinda eh

chrome grove
foggy fulcrum
#

they won't even tell us what the h stands for!

solar sparrow
#

lax rules series don't really work

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they turn into spending wars

foggy fulcrum
#

they do but you have to BOP them

solar sparrow
#

ye

chrome grove
foggy fulcrum
#

if you're closer to $1500... 24h Lemons

solar sparrow
#

honestly it's not shocking that alpine are doing good

foggy fulcrum
#

they're driving the fastest car

solar sparrow
#

the rebellion last year won some races because of BOP

foggy fulcrum
#

it's just been BOPed down

solar sparrow
#

sad

chrome grove
#

boop

timber umbra
#

bruh this was so awkward

#

the "podium"

chrome grove
#

if you have a $100 cost cap then the no rules series would work

halcyon pelican
#

@foggy fulcrum LMDh & Hypercar will be called hypercar in WEC

foggy fulcrum
#

so...

#

three classes?

halcyon pelican
#

I dont think LMP2 is going away

foggy fulcrum
#

tf

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why not

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isn't that the whole point of LMDh

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replace DPi and LMP2???

halcyon pelican
#

LMP2 is staying it seems

#

@foggy fulcrum

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halcyon pelican
# foggy fulcrum tf

From what I've gathered, LMP2 is staying as the 2nd tier class
Hypercar & LMDh replaces LMP1 & DPi but they'll be able to race in WEC & IMSA

foggy fulcrum
#

that's fucked up

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so LMH is basically dead then?

#

why would anyone run LMH?

#

So before in my mind, you'd build LMH because you wanted the overall win at Le Mans

halcyon pelican
#

that was the concern during all the LMDh talk

foggy fulcrum
#

but if you can take the overall wins at Sebring, Daytona and Le Mans in the same car

#

why tf would you build an LMH??

lethal yacht
#

This is partially why aston backed out

halcyon pelican
#

LMDh is kinda spec vs hypercar which isnt

foggy fulcrum
#

yeah which is why it's the perfect replacement to DPi and LMP2

#

but they're not doing that

#

idiots

halcyon pelican
#

Gonna be honest Hypercar will still probably be faster

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LMDh will probably be as quick as Privateer Hypercars

foggy fulcrum
#

idk why they wouldn't just make it its own class then

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and kill off LMP2

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or run them together for a couple years and then kill them

halcyon pelican
#

LMP2 is still a lot cheaper than hypercar/lmdh
The aim of Hypercar/Lmdh merger was to make more top manufacturers join endurance racing and the prospect of LMDh being able to run in WEC & IMSA was a selling point

foggy fulcrum
#

so what's LMH for

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To me, it seems like they had a brilliant idea

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the Le Mans Hypercar

halcyon pelican
#

LMH is Free reign vs LMDh being a spec series

foggy fulcrum
#

And have just randomly also got DPi 2, which is not a hypercar

halcyon pelican
#

LMDh will be considered hypercar in WEC

foggy fulcrum
#

Effectively LMH has killed LMP1, and LMDh is just the new name for DPi evo, which is an LMP2 evo, so there's four types of car at Le Mans

#

LMH

#

LMDh

#

LMP2

#

GTE

#

and of these, two of them are wank and one of them is pointless?

#

So LMH isn't going to attract anyone, it's just LMP1 but slower

#

And LMDh which should kill LMP2 just isn't for some reason

halcyon pelican
#

LMH & LMDh will be run as one spec
Point of all this was to get more manufacturers to join "next gen LMP1"

foggy fulcrum
#

Run as one class, yes

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but... they aren't

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Means being the fastest last gen LMDh car is worth more than being the fastest LMDh car 🤣

#

That's so backwards

halcyon pelican
#

wdym

foggy fulcrum
#

last gen LMDh cars, LMP2 cars

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qualify for a class win

halcyon pelican
#

But LMDh was never gonna replace LMP2

#

ever?

foggy fulcrum
#

why not?

#

LMDh cars are not hypercars, they're fancy DPis, which are just LMP2s

#

LMDh is just LMP2 Evo

#

So it should be replacing LMP2

halcyon pelican
#

LMP2 its still the cheapest LMP category
LMDh will be close to hypercar

foggy fulcrum
#

LMP2 is close to Hypercar

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They were šŸ¤ this close to the overall podium today

halcyon pelican
#

Still a noticeable gap tho

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by 1 or 2 laps

#

in a 6h race

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I dont get the issue here

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more teams is better

foggy fulcrum
#

I don't know what would be wrong with having LMDh be a different class though?

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if they win overall, so what

arctic wyvern
#

GT3 COTA anyone?

halcyon pelican
#

Less attractive

foggy fulcrum
#

How is it?

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It's cheaper and you can run IMSA too

#

LMDh will be LMDh no matter if it's the "top class in WEC" or whatever

#

Especially if they can totally win

halcyon pelican
#

It was a joint thing between WEC & IMSA

foggy fulcrum
#

But it isn't

#

It's IMSA regs that WEC has just randomly adopted

#

Shoehorned in

#

It isn't the dream of a cross series hypercar at all

#

it's a slightly fancier LMP2 car that they're pretending is a hypercar

halcyon pelican
#

Whats the issue with pretending if its just as fast

foggy fulcrum
#

Because it's not a hypercar

#

What's the point in pretending if it's just as fast

#

Just call it what it is

#

LMDh

glass wyvern
#

who saw the new rally Extreme thing ?

#

were roseburg has a team and so as hamilton

foggy fulcrum
glass wyvern
#

ehm ehm

glass wyvern
foggy fulcrum
#

I don't see what's wrong with just having two classes fight for the win??

#

They're clearly not the same

#

So why pretend they are?

halcyon pelican
#

As in body wise?

foggy fulcrum
#

in everything

#

LMDh is not LMH

#

LMH are the Hypercar regs

#

LMDh are DPi 2.0 regs that they've slapped that label on

#

LMDh are prototypes, they're just LMDPi

halcyon pelican
#

Hypercar wasnt attracting enough manufacturers

foggy fulcrum
#

I can see why 🤣

#

But you don't fix that by making pretending LMDPi is the same thing

halcyon pelican
#

What would you suggest then

foggy fulcrum
#

run LMDPi as its own class

#

put LMP2s in there as legacy

halcyon pelican
#

And that kills all hype from the manufacturers

foggy fulcrum
#

LMH, LMDh, GTE Pro, GTE Am

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lmao why

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just say they're both top class

#

again... you do not have to slow them down

#

There is nothing wrong with having a "second class" car win

halcyon pelican
#

It means absolutely everything to the manufacturers

foggy fulcrum
#

Only if they're not paying attention

halcyon pelican
#

To the public perception of the brand

foggy fulcrum
#

The way I see it, running LMDh as Hypercar just kills LMH

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So why bother with LMH?

#

LMH will have no interest

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and LMDh will look unpure

halcyon pelican
#

LMH was doomed from the beginning

foggy fulcrum
#

They both are though

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this is what i'm saying

#

they set out to make "Hypercar"

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and both classes they're saying are "Hypercar" are screwing each other over

halcyon pelican
#

LMDh is akin to Formula E in terms of manufacturer interest
Audi is pulling out of FE because of LMDh

foggy fulcrum
#

So, fine

#

don't run LMH

halcyon pelican
foggy fulcrum
#

There's no point having two

halcyon pelican
#

plus both will have similar performance

foggy fulcrum
#

LMH is road based, specifically designed, manufacturer built cars, they're actual Hypercars

#

LMDh is just the prototypes that LMH was designed to replace 🤣

#

Neither fits the goals both were designed for

halcyon pelican
#

The way I see it, its like making an F1 car and limiting it to F2 speeds but since F2 is cheaper more people will join

foggy fulcrum
#

it's the other way round though

#

it's like having F2 cars and F1 cars, and capping the F2 cars so they're slow enough to compete with the F1 cars

#

If it were like you were saying, it'd make sense

#

That's how I thought they were doing it

#

LMDh second class in WEC

#

replacing the cars they're directly based on

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The other customer chassis prototypes, the LMP2s (and DPi in IMSA)

#

With LMH replacing the LMP1 cars

#

Doesn't that make way more sense?

#

merging two sets of popular regs in two series into one?

glass wyvern
#

hmmm whats wrong here-....

foggy fulcrum
#

instead of doing that, killing another, and bringing in an equally unpopular one, and pretending that's all the same except LMP2s

halcyon pelican
#

he hates that they arent killing LMP2 idk

foggy fulcrum
#

i don't hate anything about this

#

I'm just fucking confused

#

They seem to have had a brilliant idea

#

and yet have so royally fucked it up that it's going to screw over the great idea

glass wyvern
#

what is dat and wht is lmp1 and lmh and wec what are they willmao

foggy fulcrum
#

World Endurance Championship

glass wyvern
#

ohhh

foggy fulcrum
#

LMP1 was the previous generation top class in WEC

#

LMH has replaced LMP1

glass wyvern
#

which is to get an example for lmh lets take f2?

foggy fulcrum
#

Nah LMH is F1

halcyon pelican
#

Hypercar was a failed set of regulations as in they werent many takers, they decided to merge with DPi 2.0 so that more people would join

foggy fulcrum
#

they're just running both

foggy fulcrum
glass wyvern
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i dont get them šŸ˜… sadmattia

foggy fulcrum
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So there's four manufacturers

glass wyvern
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k

foggy fulcrum
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DPi is the version ran in IMSA, the US based endurance championship

glass wyvern
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okay

foggy fulcrum
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DPi has road car manufacturer engines, and slightly different body work

glass wyvern
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ok..

foggy fulcrum
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LMDh is fundamentally, DPi 2.0

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except LMDh will also run in WEC, in the same class as LMH

halcyon pelican
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@foggy fulcrum this is the reason why

glass wyvern
foggy fulcrum
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LMH Le Mans Hypercar

LMDh Le Mans Daytona h

DPi Daytona Prototype international

LMP Le Mans Prototype 1/2

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No, I think what they're doing with LMDh is great

glass wyvern
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so whats the point of this negotiation

foggy fulcrum
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It's a car that can be ran in both IMSA and WEC, and allows for both more manufacturer interest and privateer interest

foggy fulcrum
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What I don't understand is, why in WEC, they're running both LMH and LMDh

glass wyvern
foggy fulcrum
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no, because it's more like making the F2 cars faster

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and running them in the same race

glass wyvern
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thats no reason to do

foggy fulcrum
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It's like if in F1 you had both custom F1 cars, and spec customer F2 based F1 cars

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that looked nothing like them

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and then also while you're at it, you're also still running F2 cars

glass wyvern
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so im running 3 race types

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f1

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f1

halcyon pelican
glass wyvern
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and f1 and also f2 at the same time

foggy fulcrum
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yeah so endurance is multi class

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so it's not quite comparable

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but basically yes

glass wyvern
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maybe to get more money or profits or something

foggy fulcrum
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it's like you have the F1 cars, F2 cars made to be as fast as F1 cars, and F2 cars, and then also GT cars

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Neither LMH or LMDh achieve the goals they set out to achieve

glass wyvern
halcyon pelican
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But think about it, it effectively means AUDI, Porsche, Ferrari returns to Le Mans to have the change at getting an overall win

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They were def not returning with Hypercar regs

foggy fulcrum
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Custom road-car inspired top class cars made by manufacturers -> LMH but not LMDh

Works in both IMSA and WEC -> LMDh but not LMH

Cheap enough to attract more manufacturers (a key issue in the late days of LMP1) -> LMDh but not LMH

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LMDh is great, but it's just not hypercar

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and LMH is hypercar but it's wank

glass wyvern
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oh

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that makes a bit more sense

foggy fulcrum
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LMDh is LMDPi, it's a Le Mans and Daytona Prototype

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But it's not a Hypercar

glass wyvern
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ill brb and see the vid then come back here

glass wyvern
foggy fulcrum
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it's a prototype

buoyant shale
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But that's IMSA, European Le Mans Cup, Le Mans Series...

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Not WEC

foggy fulcrum
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Yeah i was only really counting the WEC relevent ones

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it's in the junior le mans series isn't it?

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ah yes it is

buoyant shale
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Yep

halcyon pelican
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last part of that comment

foggy fulcrum
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Yeah, it's basically DPi 2.0 but we'll pretend it's a hypercar so you don't ignore us

halcyon pelican
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That or WEC dies

foggy fulcrum
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the FIA lost

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no one can afford, nor does anyone really want to make LMP1/LMH cars

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LMH has sparked minor interest but... i mean, right now, it's still just Toyota

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Which is exactly where LMP1 was

glass wyvern
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so now i saw the vid

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and i understood