ok.
#motorsports
marble willow
lethal yacht
Driven is so bad
marble willow
Driven literally did no justice to CART. It just made CART's slow demise worse
lethal yacht
Every other scene is either a lower formula car or a CG Reynard or something
marble willow
Tonight!
Robert Moreno does a reverse Mark Webber,
Max Papis goes into space,
and everyone else crashes unrealistically at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve
marble willow
AYYY IT'S BLUNDELL!
marble willow
Blundell, Gugelmin, and Montoya all lent their helmets
lethal yacht
Fun fact: Big Mo still has the unofficial, faster close coursed record
marble willow
This was Force India's livery before Force India's livery
lethal yacht
AYO you rite
That's the VJM10
WAIT
Awh man Patrick Racing didn't run a sharkfin
marble willow
This was Force India's livery before Force India's livery
Well this didn't have a sharkfin
marble willow
For some reason, it reminds me of this
midnight kite
Aren't the current S5000 chassis modified Regional F3 cars?
lethal yacht
They're Ligier JS F3 chassis, yes
marble willow
DTM if Mercedes and Audi never left
timber umbra
lethal yacht
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floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Hinchcliffe to run Capstone sponsorship in six races
timber umbra
lethal yacht
Get well soon đđđ
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Schmidt: Arrow McLaren SP ready to complete IndyCar âBig Fourâ
lethal yacht
why did you drop askew
Coz people like McLaren don't tend to like it when you get a heavy concussion, and then lie about it and say you're fine coz your legal department said so while also saying it's SP's fault
lethal steeple
wtf
marble willow
What
lethal yacht
Yeah, after the hefty Indy 500 crash? He had a concussion but didn't talk about it
Either by feeling scared he'd be sidelined, or his Legal team said so, but as a result it turned out worse
lethal yacht
That's why he got beaned from SPM
lethal steeple
like, considering arrow's sponsoring why would you withhold info about a concussion you had while racing
marble willow
Lying about a concussion just seems stupid
lethal yacht
Yeah he didn't have attenuator time, but hit thie inside wall really quite bad
And admitted later he started feeling symptoms within 2 days
rain fossil
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Otsu completes Mugen Super Formula line-up
lethal steeple
we move
lethal steeple
spark bay
No astrella galicia?
Cool anyway
I thought they were supposed to be the main sponsor of alex in lcr
lethal steeple
look at his shoulder
normal spear
that is one beautiful bike
probably will be the best looking honda on the grid as always
spark bay
Nothing beats the repsol
lethal steeple
omg if they put blue on his bike
normal spear
the old repsol pre 2013 yeah sure
lethal steeple
lethal steeple
crazy rossi p2 at qatar
normal spear
happens
the peformance is on a average of the season tbf
only when it is needed do i change it race to race
like i did with 09 f1
normal spear
most disgusted by dovi win
lethal steeple
how
normal spear
the way it happened
it was close as fuck
rossi 3 points off his irl score despite 2 less wins i think
hayden also doing an incredible job at the end
sad how his honda career came to an end irl
lethal steeple
they screwed him legit
normal spear
not the first time not the last time
lethal steeple
fuck hrc
normal spear
so glad they've been dethroned
lethal steeple
momentarily :(
normal spear
enough for me tbf
spark bay
If blomqvist and vandoorne drove the car then they won the race tbh
molten skiff
Srsky, who drove for the most of the race? Cause i joined late
sacred geyser
to be brutally honest that race was actually quite nice
it wasn't a world beater but it wasn't too bad
Galeal i think drove 2/3 of it and drove perfectly without any major fuck ups
spark bay
Respect to him, then
lethal steeple
LETS GOOOOO
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Rahal Letterman Lanigan reveals Satoâs new Indy 500 livery
lethal yacht
Bruv imagine taking this long to build the thing
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Sato unveils second image on Borg-Warner Trophy
lethal yacht
Can we just get a new Can-Am/Group.7 please?
And then like... An open-wheel equivalent?
tacit garden
https://twitter.com/Glickenhaus/status/1362838704327446528?s=20
oh finally some bodywork
I honestly already got a bit worried because all their pics were just the chassis
ngl that front looks kinda 60s-style?
lethal steeple
cheers car's almost done
they been teasin a red livery
ive had enough red. Enough.
rain elk
tame wedge
i love seeing sean gelael being successful out of f2
he just won an asian le mans series race
alongside blomqvist
midnight kite
https://www.reddit.com/r/RaceTrackDesigns/comments/lgs1f7/fantasy_british_indyca...
Therapist: Tall Monza isn't real, it can't hurt you..
Tall Monza:
normal spear
midnight kite
So they added only brown...
normal spear
Think it is supposed to be gold
midnight kite
Tbh, I really prefer Alex's Castrol livery
spark bay
I think thatâs pretty fly, much better than last year
lethal steeple
LCR nailed it this year
paper brook
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Opinion: Why safety cars are an outdated institution
tacit garden
oh I saw the german version of that a few weeks ago
there are some things I really don't understand.
"Before we start: let's exclude oval racing from this discussion since full-course cautions are part of the spectacle there and have a long tradition in this type of racing. We are talking about âregularâ circuits and what consequences safety cars bring."
At this point Safety Car is kind of a "tradition" in F1 too isn't it? it's been there for like 30 years.
Also the author says "A safety car, or pace car as it is called in the U.S., should never be deployed if the pit lane is closed at the same time"
but later says
"Close the pit lane during FCY/VSC with only emergency pitstops allowed"
as a solution against an unfair pit advantage under VSC??
Sure the advantage is bigger under SC than it is under VSC but ultimatively it's the same problem isn't it?
tight quiver
there are some things I really don't understand.
>*"Before we start: let's excl...
this is just like 
remote cove
we need to get rid of the VSC and disallow pit stops under SC unless it is absolutely necessary
tacit garden
disallowing pit stops under SC would just reverse the current (dis)advante wouldn't it
so if you change tyres e.g. a lap before SC you're lucky whereas if you want to change tyres the next lap but the SC comes out you'll have to wait and pit when it's over... and get overtaken by everyone.
floral urchinBOT
Opinion: Why safety cars are an outdated institution
motorsport.com
tight quiver
N o
midnight kite
Safety Car is the most greatest solution of preventing a team from dominating the playing field
tacit garden
why did the bot post that twice
blazing cypress
Safety Car is the most greatest solution of preventing a team from dominating th...
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timber umbra
midnight kite
Valencia is also used as Formula E's test circuit
foggy fulcrum
I should work out whatâs going on with FE lol
midnight kite
They haven't raced there yet
Ricardo Tormo is used as FE's pre-season test circuit@warped dome
This year's the only time they'll race in Valencia
They should really race more on actual circuits than the closed streets
Mexico and Valencia are currently the only actual tracks they've/will race on (also Monaco if you even consider it an actual race track coz history)
spark bay
Wait are they racing at a real track for once??? Oh my god, they better not do something wierd with the track limits to stop comparisons with other series
timber umbra
However, the Formula E version of the F1 track could feature some modifications to corners, in what is believed to be an effort to back away from direct comparisons to other championships.
The changes are thought to potentially include modifications to the Portier and chicane sections of the track to differentiate between the circuit that F1, Formula 2 and the Porsche Supercup will use two weeks after Formula E.
i'll just leave this
midnight kite
Wait are they racing at a real track for once??? Oh my god, they better not do s...
Well Hermano is already an actual track
vast seal
trying to convince us that the cars aren't piss slow
midnight kite
They only used the inverted Oval course connecting to the arena section of Hermanos
spark bay
Formula e are such pussies, such a shame for the world class drivers that have to sit at the wheel of glorified formula 4 cars and race at worsened versions of normal tracks because the bosses think people canât instantly tell the cars are pathetic
midnight kite
Like, who tf also uses road tyres on race cars?!
marble willow
Formula e are such pussies, such a shame for the world class drivers that have t...
at least its better than having to watch sochi, catalunya, abu dhabi, monaco, china, and australia.
knotty egret
Honestly with the street circuits they race on, they canât really go much faster
midnight kite
Come on FE, I know you're on promoting EV but seriously? Can you guys use Slicks for once?
lethal yacht
Formula e are such pussies, such a shame for the world class drivers that have t...
they are not anything like F4 cars tho
and grooved just makes it harder to drive so it's more of a challenge
spark bay
@lethal yacht theyâre close to eachother in speed which is what i was referring to
lethal yacht
I mean speed is overrated, really
we got faster F1 cars and they race like shit now so
marble willow
Less downforce and closer racing > speed
spark bay
Yeah but FE cars are so fucking boring to watch, literal pedestrian speeds
Mind numbingly weak vehicles
marble willow
Still beats having to watch a field of 20 trundle around spain or sochi or any shit tilkedrome
spark bay
You say that like you can overtake at fe tracks
Actually nevermind on that one
I have not watched enough fe to substantiate that claim completely but i have seen some of the alleyways they call circuits and GOD
lethal yacht
ok
spark bay
I donât see the point if you canât even go two wide on the straights
lethal yacht
not sure which track you mean
marble willow
I'm sure he means ANY track
lethal yacht
well you can do it on most even if it's tight though
spark bay
I know they try to make them super slow so the cars can last the whole race which is just unbelievably boring, actually building the tracks around not going fast
lethal steeple
are we dissing formula e again
spark bay
Yeah but that changes nothing
The reason doesnât matter, the problem is that the tracks are just slow speed corners
lethal yacht
they aren't even "underpowered" per se, it's just that they don't have a lot of grip
spark bay
There are easy solutions to that problem that they donât use for some reason
Like giving them slicks, the reason why the cars are pathetically slow doesnât really matter either, the problem is that they are
lethal yacht
you can't add more downforce because then the electricity efficiency will be fucked
and the slicks idea was that they don't have to stop
for tyres
spark bay
I have nothing against fe fans for the record, sorry if i may seem agressive or something lol
lethal yacht
I'm not even an FE fan if I'm honest đ
just trying to make sense as to what it is
and it's a pretty healthy and ridiculously competitive series
so their speed doesn't really matter imo
lethal yacht
Ok guys I got a doubt
What is attack mode
In FE
I saw that cars run wide and something happens
buoyant shale
To activate Attack Mode you have to take a wide line at a certain turn and then you unlock some extra kw of power
buoyant shale
I guess it's just power the engine doesn't extract till it notices you activated attack mode
Like, if you don't have attack mode, the engine isnt extracting all the power it has
lethal yacht
Ahk
I thought it was something like ERS
And that the rules must've been like it could be used only of you ran wide
buoyant shale
The same mechanism is used for Fan Boost I think
Essentially unlocks some extra power that the engine doesn't extract normally
buoyant shale
Well you have to take a very wide line at one certain turn otherwise it doesn't work
lethal yacht
chrome grove
kar
hearty anchor
that's not to say i don't enjoy watching ovals
but i'm always more apprehensive when watching
hearty anchor
then you've got accidents like renna's
which wasn't that long ago in the scheme of things
chrome grove
oval racing was scary af at the beginning
lethal yacht
Renna's they still don't even really know what happened
chrome grove
but its mega fun
hearty anchor
and that doesn't even bear thinking about if that happened on race day
hearty anchor
but, it could've
chrome grove
but it didn't
hearty anchor
but it *didn't*
and that's not how safety developments work
lethal yacht
FIA seem to disagree
hearty anchor
it was a tyre test and it reasonably could have happened on a race day with packed grandstands
we got lucky it didn't, but it very well could have been even worse
and to their credit, IMS beefed up the fencing in that area
chrome grove
honestly idk if it could happen
hearty anchor
but it's still scary to think about
lethal yacht
I still don't get this line of logic
Coz a Bianchi could happen at any time with a crane
silk epoch
No cos theyâve changed the rules for that havent they?
hearty anchor
and the FIA have a big chunk of culpability for his death
same deal with introducing the halo
silk epoch
A Senna could happen with no brakes?
Even a brake failure itâs not that likely
lethal yacht
I just... Am unsure how to react to oh it could've happened on race day
hearty anchor
people were pointing to the fact that in f1, the halo wouldn't have protected any recent driver fatality
chrome grove
lets not think about the worst.
hearty anchor
lets not think about the worst.
that's.. how motorsports safety works..
you design for the worst possible (reasonable) case
hearty anchor
same deal with the HANS, the halo, fireproof suits, etc etc etc.
99.9% of the time, you don't need them
silk epoch
Hans is useful a lot more often than the halo or a fireproof suit
hearty anchor
but you anticipate the worst reasonable outcomes and design around them accordingly
silk epoch
Hans stops a lot of small injuries too
silk epoch
Even a fairly low speed crash could injure someone quite easily without the Hans
lethal yacht
Indy had them both first
hearty anchor
it is, but part of the argument back in the day was that "it wasn't needed"
chrome grove
ur neck is in for one hell of a race if u dont have a HANS device
hearty anchor
the sport is safe enough/the amount of times it would be useful isn't worth the inconvenience etc. etc. etc.
silk epoch
How
lethal yacht
Relative to NASCAR that is
hearty anchor
NASCAR still makes me a little uncomfortable
but the cars are (more) crashworthy, they're slower, they're less liable to go airborne etc.
lethal yacht
I don't get why you'd find either one of those more uncomfortable than the other
silk epoch
but the cars are (more) crashworthy, they're slower, they're less liable to go a...
You love argueing about this
chrome grove
nascar is one of the top standards of safety for racing rn
hearty anchor
I don't get why you'd find either one of those more uncomfortable than the other
i think the injury/fatality record alone should make it apparent
chrome grove
20 years since a death
silk epoch
Thatâs impressive
hearty anchor
indycar is averaging what.. 5 years between deaths since 2003?
whereas nascar's gone 20 in the top 3 series
silk epoch
And fia single seaters has had 2 since 2014?
hearty anchor
in modern cars, yes
hearty anchor
in trucks, cup, xfinity
yeah
the record between the two isn't really comparable
even FIA single seaters is something like.. 3/4 deaths since 2000
hearty anchor
don't get me wrong
i absolutely love indycar
the 500 is easily in my top 3 favourite events
chrome grove
indycar has had 4 deaths since 2000
hearty anchor
BUT.. it still scares me more than any other series
lethal yacht
Since 2000 then NASCAR still had a death then...
Indycar has had... Renna, Wilson and Wheldon?
hearty anchor
tbh i think 2002/2003 is a fair point to start the comparison at for all series
hearty anchor
Indycar has had... Renna, Wilson and Wheldon?
and dana at homestead
chrome grove
paul dana
lethal yacht
Oh
I just find it weird coz we also have... The highest survived impacts
It's just... Idk for me personally, it's more difficult
hearty anchor
it's the nature of the series though
lethal yacht
I'm probably in denail
hearty anchor
the more high speed accidents you have, the more likely you are to see survivors
plus, you'll struggle to hit 200g+ in a stock car
you don't see nascar drivers walking away from 200g hits, because there aren't those sort of hits in the first place
lethal yacht
Yes but... I guess... That's our perspective difference?
Idk I've lost my point now...
And I'm probably wrong anyway
hearty anchor
it's not a 'negative' point against indy in the sense that it makes the series 'worse'
but it's still statistically one of the most dangerous series out there
lethal yacht
It's just annoying too coz again... Closer racing? More action? More likely to crash
shy sierra
Open wheelers at ovals sounds scary in general
hearty anchor
and it's not just indy i get slightly uncomfortable with
silk epoch
Yeh oval is scary
hearty anchor
i'm always nervous watching macau, bathurst, adac24 etc.
shy sierra
macau is very understandable
shy sierra
Isn't there a corner where people are not allowed to overtake at Macau?
hearty anchor
last year was just hit after hit after hit
silk epoch
Isn't there a corner where people are not allowed to overtake at Macau?
Yeh cos you wont get around it
Itâs too tight to overtake there
hearty anchor
there were a couple of hospitalisations/evacs in last year's one
errant sparrow
and it's a very, very sharp hairpin
I think if you try to overtake, you won't be able to make the hairpin
unless you like spin by 180 degrees
silk epoch
If you arenât on the outside wall on entry you wonât make the exit
hearty anchor
tander had an absolute monster
shy sierra
Can close racing be expected in every Indycar race?
hearty anchor
eh
shy sierra
Other than the ovals
hearty anchor
i'd say a lot more often than not
some of the road courses aren't particularly great for racing
shy sierra
The closest track to me is prob Laguna Seca, how are the races there
lethal yacht
Ovals are not pure chaos
shy sierra
Oh
lethal yacht
Unless you've got something loke Texas or Pocono in the newest Indycar aerokits
The previous aerokits actually suited Pocono quite well
But shorter ovals are not friendly to huge downforce cars
Hence wanting tracks like Michigan back
normal spear
i like how some of the most experienced guys defended Pocono
hearty anchor
pocono's a weird one
none of the crashes in 15, 18, 19 were techically the track's fault
hearty anchor
but it's still a quick track, and if things go wrong, they have a habit of going substantially wrong
lethal yacht
none of the crashes in 15, 18, 19 were techically the track's fault
Their tracks made it worse tho...
If that's even true
For 18 and 19 it seems to be the track/car combo
hearty anchor
wilson's was just dumb luck
i think 18/19 was a combo of the track and people forgetting how to drive
lethal yacht
Big Dick Wick's I think mainly because of the Track's suiting to the cars, and the fact that his car didn't split in half
hearty anchor
but we see big accidents happen at all the larger circuits anyway
aleshin nearly died at fontana, texas.. actually idk, what's the biggest recent hit at texas?
oh i guess daly/newgarden in 16
lethal yacht
Ah! I've realised my issue with this argument!
I have a massive hard-on for full-flat Ovals
hearty anchor
oh same
shy sierra
Wdym by hard-on
hearty anchor
but in my case its like.. 40% fuelled by fear
lethal yacht
Wdym by hard-on
Erect Phallus, or bias
buoyant shale
Only two ovals this year?
3 in IndyCar
Indianapolis
Texas
Gateway (or Worldwide Technology Raceway but whoever calls it that needs to find help)
buoyant shale
Yes
shy sierra
Oh what's gateway
lethal yacht
Yeah so... If we could go to 8 Mile Ovals in Texas, I'd vote for it...
shy sierra
Why have I never heard of that
buoyant shale
And Indy twice but one is the road course
buoyant shale
Oh what's gateway
It's a medium sized oval I think
hearty anchor
it's a short oval
buoyant shale
1 1/4 mile
hearty anchor
they don't run the oval aerokit on it
buoyant shale
Eh short ovals are more under 1 mile aren't they
buoyant shale
But yeah
Smallest oval Indy races on
shy sierra
something about oval racing interests me but scares me at the same time
can't explain it
hearty anchor
i'm very fond of gateway
buoyant shale
I prefer normal road course racing but ovals are also good fun
lethal yacht
It's normal, I think most people find Oval racing scary or not understandable for the reason I think most love it
You're going flat out all the timd
shy sierra
well most of the time depending on the type of the oval right
buoyant shale
I find motorcycle racing scarier then oval racing
lethal yacht
Oh yeah, Bikes are a whole new level for me
buoyant shale
I find motorcycle racing scary
I know that most of the time nothing goes badly when a biker falls, due to special suits and stuff
But seeing people fall on the ground, exposed... Feels scary
shy sierra
yeah I can't get myself to watch that
lethal yacht
Like I'd love to hit 240mph/386kph in cars, but... Bikes?
I'm fascinated by crashes so I'll watch stuff... And I love the Isle of Man TT
shy sierra
If someone collides hard in a car of some sorts I have a sort of assurance that they have protection around them
lethal yacht
But I'd never own a bike
chrome grove
can you hit 240 in a bike?
buoyant shale
Meanwhile rally i find... Oddly satisfying
Just seeing those cars fly around narrow roads in such a smooth way
shy sierra
You need to have eyes on the road and an ear on your co-driver
lethal yacht
can you hit 240 in a bike?
You can't hit 240 in most cars
My point was I'd wanna do 240 in a car
But... Not even do road driving on a bike
silk epoch
can you hit 240 in a bike?
In mugello I think MotoGP does
lethal yacht
240mph? At Mugello?
chrome grove
mph, not kph
lethal yacht
That's possible?
buoyant shale
Meanwhile rally i find... Oddly satisfying
Just seeing those cars fly around na...
Like this
https://youtu.be/13fSDb5x4ck
silk epoch
357.6kph at mugello
buoyant shale
From this year's Finland rally btw
lethal yacht
222mph at Mugello?
lethal yacht
In a bike? I thought they tried to limit bike speed to 300/186 or so as a whole... Bruh
buoyant shale
MotoGP is fast in a straight line
Very high power to weight ratio isn't it
hearty anchor
wait holy shit they do
lethal yacht
Isle of Man TT afaik just have top speeds of "200" miles an hour
Now I think... It must be more
buoyant shale
But yeah
Bikes are scary
So even though a lot of people are like "dude go watch MotoGP it's so close in the championship" I just... Cant
lethal yacht
So like... In summary, get me in a CART doing the closed course records, but I'll only watch the isle of man tt
normal spear
there is a lot of crashes in a season
and the riders are heavily scarred and beaten up across their career
buoyant shale
I'll stick to cars lol
normal spear
but it used to be oh so much worse
lethal yacht
If you're not on road, or on 4 wheels... I'm less... Pleased?
normal spear
if i'm being honest i think the tt being part of the championship till the mid 70's makes up a lot of the fatalities
buoyant shale
If you're not on road, or on 4 wheels... I'm less... Pleased?
So that includes rally? Since sometimes those aren't necessarily on roads, well, gravel and dirt roads sometimes
lethal yacht
Yeah Rally and Hillclimb is again mostly crash stuff I watch
Although Hillclimb is... Different
buoyant shale
I like rally, if it's on, I try to catch it
buoyant shale
Btw when is Pikes Peak
lethal yacht
Idk bruh
I seem to have exceptions to rules of taste when the thing is unapologetically insane
buoyant shale
And Group B of course
Group B was in ways awesome and in ways horrible
lethal yacht
Hence, Unapologetically insane
buoyant shale
Yeah it was insane
buoyant shale
But it definitely wasn't nice when drivers would die quite often because the rollcages were basically cardboard
In group B
lethal yacht
But it definitely wasn't nice when drivers would die quite often because the rol...
Or suicidal crowds... That too
buoyant shale
God yeah that's just...
Waiting for accidents
Also for me it's
F1 to... Fucking everything
lethal yacht
Rephrase so I can understand
lethal yacht
and just recently indycar
Thots?
buoyant shale
Rephrase so I can understand
Rephrase what
lethal yacht
Also for me it's
F1 to... Fucking everything
What this mean
lethal yacht
America I'm confusion
buoyant shale
That I started with F1 and then I tried to watch just about everything
lethal yacht
Thoughts on Indycar, SayWut
normal spear
oh
lethal yacht
Ah right, I'm similar
normal spear
you said thots and i was like what
lethal yacht
Watching the PC22 at goodwood cracked my world view open
normal spear
i tried watching a lot of last year and to me some of the road course races just seemed dull
buoyant shale
Series I follow really closely are F1 and F2 last year, with Super Formula in the second half
And starting this year I'm hoping to as well follow Super Formula, IndyCar, IMSA, some other endurance stuff, maybe Supercars if I can catch that?
normal spear
in fairness it was coming after either watching f1 or moto gp
i did enjoy the last round though
and the two oval races which would have been indy and gateway
lethal yacht
I just watch Indy, S5000... And then highlighty bits from whatever
I'm more of a type who watches things to watch them go by
silk epoch
Series I follow really closely are F1 and F2 last year, with Super Formula in th...
Watch f3
normal spear
the next thing i really want to watch more of is wsbk
i haven't really watched it all that much
buoyant shale
Watch f3
I'm also going to try and do that if I can
But since the calendars of F2 and F3 are seperate now, I probably can lol
I didn't watch F3 last year because F1, F2 and F3 on one weekend was too much
lethal yacht
WSBK?
normal spear
world superbike
kind of the touring cars of bikes
they are basically production bikes that have barely any modifications i think
as opposed to the prototype bikes made for moto gp
lethal yacht
Ah
normal spear
i just want to see how the racing compares
because from a outside look i could say it is shit because one guy is dominating
and that is jonathan rea
but i've never seen him ride before since his few races in moto gp in 2012
buoyant shale
I really want to catch more Super Formula but the problem is that
It's most of the time at 5am
And I'm not waking up at 5am on a Sunday for Super Formula
normal spear
can forget about japan this season then if it happens
i used to wake up at 4 for australia pre 09
not even the races i've most struggled with to stay awake
buoyant shale
I'll definitely wake up for the Japanese GP since I've actually never watched one live and I want to
buoyant shale
But Super Formula which is every two weeks or so, nah
buoyant shale
But Super Formula which is every two weeks or so, nah
I'll just rewatch later if I can
Without hopefully getting spoilered before that
normal spear
yeah it is 4:10 am in the UK
actually ignore that
5 am actually now with the recent start times being confirmed
buoyant shale
5am GMT for Japan GP?
normal spear
uk time yes
buoyant shale
6am, I can do that
I think
I hope
midnight kite
It's really horrifying till this day to see Marco Simoncelli's helmet got shattered to pieces and how it got removed.....
normal spear
love that Team KR livery
lethal steeple
they just had to blow it
lethal steeple
normal spear
wish i could have grown up in the era when they were just getting started
lethal steeple
the one time kenny and kurtis were on track together
buoyant shale
If I was in that
I would be like "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" everytime I do the crossing
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | F2 drivers predict "stressful" weekends with new format
midnight kite
With 3 races now, it's surely gonna be a catastrofuck
lethal yacht
Tru
remote cove
glickenhaus said they were planning to do a track test next week i believe
wonder how its gonna turn out
buoyant shale
Oooh theres Formula E on Friday
prisma blaze
Howâs this for a start to a schedule concept for NASCAR
- Daytona 500
- Las Vegas
- Phoenix
- Fontana
- Sonoma
- Texas
- Atlanta
- Bristol
- Richmond
lethal yacht
Wait Bristol is in the UK right?
prisma blaze
No lmao
lethal yacht
prisma blaze
Itâs in Tennessee
lethal yacht
Oh ok nvm
prisma blaze
Anybody?
valid grove
no thats terrible @prisma blaze
besides literally vegas, phoenix, and fontana were ran back to back to back before and it was tiring we dont need it again
prisma blaze
besides literally vegas, phoenix, and fontana were ran back to back to back befo...
Itâs tradition
valid grove
not anymore lol
valid grove
theres a difference in good and repetitiveness
prisma blaze
Itâs not repetitive though
valid grove
it was for literally over 5 years in a row
prisma blaze
Might as well say itâs repetitive that the 500 starts the season
Thatâs the same logic
valid grove
True however thats just 1 race thats been happening forever
not a set of tracks set together with no variance because they're all intermediates
valid grove
barely lol
valid grove
prisma blaze
A 2 mile low banked oval
valid grove
prisma blaze
A 1.5 mile high banked oval
valid grove
thing is they look similar
valid grove
yea thats the track...
remote cove
they are all damn tri ovals they all look the same from the track map
valid grove
^
remote cove
why are you agreeing with me when i'm debunking your point
prisma blaze
They are ovals wtf do you expect
valid grove
oh lmao
valid grove
but kerbal i hope you realize that when y
Kerbal i hope you realize that everyone in nascar was bored/tired of the west coast swing
prisma blaze
Well thatâs an old picture but whatever
remote cove
gateway best oval
valid grove
said no one ever
prisma blaze
I honestly canât even tell if you are trolling at this point
valid grove
fans were begging in a change of schedule and something different than the west coast swing
because its been happening for over 5 years back to back
valid grove
I honestly canât even tell if you are trolling at this point
im not trolling lol
lethal yacht
I'd love a TT race for Formula cars...
valid grove
the west coast swing was a good idea in concept but after 5 years of the literal exact same schedule that has barely any difference its tiring
prisma blaze
Vegas - 1.5 Miles, High Banks
Fontana - 2 Miles, Super Wide, Low banks
Phoenix - 1 mile, no banks, unique âdog legâ
How the hell can you say those are the same
Fontanaâs even going to be a super high banked half mile in 2023
valid grove
track layout really lol
valid grove
overall they're intermediates
remote cove
bro they are ovals
prisma blaze
All completely different intermediates
And Fontana is going to be a short track in 2023
valid grove
Yes true but its not different if you have it at the exact same point over and over for 5 years on the schedule
prisma blaze
Also in my schedule I added Sonoma to it
prisma blaze
Yes true but its not different if you have it at the exact same point over and o...
They literally get switched around every year
valid grove
say that in 2016
prisma blaze
Wait
valid grove
somewhat lol
remote cove
except the first one is twice as big lol
remote cove
yes
valid grove
oh dover please we need a night race
prisma blaze
They are completely different tracks
Just because from above they look the same
Doesnât mean they are the same
lethal yacht
Ahk
prisma blaze
Itâs also the best track in NASCAR
lethal yacht
Oval....
valid grove
Itâs also the best track in NASCAR
it smell like cap
prisma blaze
He was talking about bristol
prisma blaze
This
buoyant shale
A lap long pitstop???
When a lap in NASCAR is like what, 30 secs max, doesn't matter much
valid grove
oh nvm
prisma blaze
Wait did you think I was saying Dover was the best lmao
prisma blaze
When a lap in NASCAR is like what, 30 secs max, doesn't matter much
At that track they are 15
valid grove
yes lmao
prisma blaze
Under green flag stops they only have to run their own pit lane
buoyant shale
A short introduction into European ovals being used nowadays
You have
Lausitzring which is dying and for some reason EuroNASCAR can't run on it because they can't run tracks longer then half a mile
Rockingham is cool-... Wait fuck it's dead :(
Venray is cool
...and then there's the wonderful Tours Speedway which is... In a parking lot
And then a bunch of tiny ovals no one cares about
Oh and Monza exists
But that's not used except for rally
prisma blaze
Because no one cares about ovals there
knotty egret
Monzaâs oval is uh
lethal yacht
I DO
knotty egret
Yeah
lethal yacht
Monza's Oval cannot be used other than the innermost... I really hope they renovate it
prisma blaze
If people actually gave it a chance they would love it
prisma blaze
But most donât because âitâs just going in circlesâ
lethal yacht
Well this is why I like combined monza per se
It's a whole ass road course and an Oval
Not one instead of the other
knotty egret
Combined Monza is just a beast
prisma blaze
Anyway I guess Iâll post the start to my custom schedule again
lethal yacht
I want with the full renovation plans
prisma blaze
- Daytona 500
- Las Vegas
- Phoenix
- Fontana
- Sonoma
- Texas
- Atlanta
- Bristol
- Richmond
Howâs that
valid grove
still an L
prisma blaze
still an L
Itâs good though
marble willow
Thing was the fastest
De Ferran's closed course record...
lethal yacht
Both official and unofficial records
valid grove
Itâs good though
My opinion would differ if I didn't have to deal with the west coast swing for 5 years in a row
lethal yacht
Official: 241.428
Unofficial: 242.333
marble willow
Now THAT is fast
prisma blaze
Is that mph or kmh
marble willow
MPH
prisma blaze
I donât think it is
lethal yacht
Mph average speeds around Fontana
valid grove
Itâs different though
Nah the order from 2015-2020 was literally vegas, phoenix, fontana you just added fontana lol
prisma blaze
Nah the order from 2015-2020 was literally vegas, phoenix, fontana you just adde...
Not 2020
And it wasnât supposed to be like that this year either
prisma blaze
Mph average speeds around Fontana
In what cars
valid grove
In 2020 fontana was just the 2nd race and phoenix was the 3rd race lol just a small switch
lethal yacht
241.428 by Gil de Feran qualifying 2000 = 388.541kph
242.333 by Mauricio Gugelmin practice 1997 = 389.997
prisma blaze
Like wtf do you want
valid grove
Not the west coast all together lol
lethal yacht
In what cars
prisma blaze
Except you
marble willow
https://youtu.be/DF8GTL0_rMA
đ
valid grove
Its been repetitive and no one liked it and i have not seen anyone like the west coast swing after 3 years of it
lethal yacht
đ
Gugelmin went faster unofficially in a practice before the handford devices were introduced, however he believes he was aided by a tow
Both Reynards
prisma blaze
Its been repetitive and no one liked it and i have not seen anyone like the west...
Literally everyone like it except you
everyone
You are the only person Iâve ever met that doesnât like it
valid grove
well who is everyone because when nascar was talking about changing the schedule everyone begged for the west coast swing to stop
lethal yacht
Kerbal chill out my gamer
prisma blaze
They make no sense though
prisma blaze
well who is everyone because when nascar was talking about changing the schedule...
Literally not a single person asked for that
prisma blaze
What do you think of my schedule
valid grove
Literally not a single person asked for that
the nascar community as a whole asked for it to stop
prisma blaze
the nascar community as a whole asked for it to stop
Ok you are definitely trolling
Iâm positive at this point
lethal yacht
What does the west coast swing have?
valid grove
I'm not but ok
buoyant shale
I wished oval racing was more popular in Europe
Like, I prefer normal circuits in racing
But having both would be perfect
lethal yacht
NASCAR ||can't turn right|| ffs
buoyant shale
laughs in road courses
lethal yacht
Awh man I love Sonoma
marble willow
The Glen is pretty sweet
prisma blaze
Awh man I love Sonoma
Hence why I added it in mine
lethal yacht
Although maybe not good to comment here coz idk NASCAR
buoyant shale
laughs in Circuit of the Americas being on the NASCAR schedule this year
Yes. COTA. In NASCAR. That's going to be... Something
marble willow
I'm actually interested to see how it goes
prisma blaze
Itâs probably going to suck
lethal yacht
I more like TA...
prisma blaze
Itâs not a NASCAR style road course
prisma blaze
I more like TA...
What one?
lethal yacht
TA1 of course
buoyant shale
Itâs not a NASCAR style road course
Yeah it is literally the anti-nascar road course lol
Made for the exact opposite kind of cars
prisma blaze
Road America and Indianapolis will be great imo
marble willow
Yeah it is literally the anti-nascar road course lol
At least they aren't racing on the layout Indycar normally uses at Sonoma
buoyant shale
Wait is this the first Tilke NASCAR will be racing on đł
prisma blaze
Yeah
lethal yacht
I just love the bombastic nature of TA1...
buoyant shale
Well COTA is a "Tilke"
Not 100% Tilke
lethal yacht
Is COTA cringe?
marble willow
meh
prisma blaze
- Daytona 500
- Las Vegas
- Phoenix
- Fontana
- Sonoma
- Texas
- Atlanta
- Bristol
- Richmond
Off-Week - Talladega
- Martinsville
- Darlington
- Kansas
All-Star - Charlotte
Howâs that
buoyant shale
Fuck it
Madhouse time
valid grove
Getting better
prisma blaze
The first 9 didnât change though
valid grove
ik
open raptor
Nascar to tilkedrome confirmed
valid grove
nah
prisma blaze
What about Las Vegas
valid grove
If it does the 2nd race should be a night race
midnight kite
Does Auto Club still exists?
prisma blaze
Yes
valid grove
yea
prisma blaze
And itâs going to become a short track in 2023
Hereâs the playoff part
- Darlington
- Richmond
- Bristol
- Las Vegas
- Charlotte
- Talladega
- Kansas
- Martinsville
- Homestead
Idk what 34 should be
buoyant shale
Inb4 they build a giant road course on the land freed up by demolishing the big oval
valid grove
ok ew on the playoffs part
midnight kite
And itâs going to become a short track in 2023
Man... I can't think of even a more worse way of renovating a track
buoyant shale
I really don't at all understand NASCAR's playoffs and stuff system
prisma blaze
I have a better system
valid grove
literally all of it except for dega and martinsville
buoyant shale
Man... I can't think of even a more worse way of renovating a track
Well, short tracks are apparently quite good in NASCAR?
valid grove
and those too ^
midnight kite
I really *don't* at all understand NASCAR's playoffs and stuff system
Basically, watching NBA teams get eliminated but Oval racing
prisma blaze
Also the Charlotte roval
buoyant shale
Demolition derby letsgo
prisma blaze
Oh lol
midnight kite
I still can't believe Ford vs Ferrari was filmed at Auto Club and to mock up 60's Daytona scene
prisma blaze
I made like a whole rule set for NASCAR
buoyant shale
I still can't believe Ford vs Ferrari was filmed at Auto Club and to mock up 60'...
Lol what
valid grove
Well, short tracks are apparently quite good in NASCAR?
Yes they are
valid grove
I really *don't* at all understand NASCAR's playoffs and stuff system
its really easy once you learn it
prisma blaze
Am I allowed to post a huge custom rule set for the point system
buoyant shale
But like
I don't get why they don't just... Employ a simple point system like literally every other motorsport in the world does
prisma blaze
But like
I don't get why they don't just... Employ a simple point system like l...
The season is to long
knotty egret
Am I allowed to post a huge custom rule set for the point system
Is it a huge wall of text
prisma blaze
Is it a huge wall of text
Yes and no
knotty egret
Yeah itâs fine
valid grove
But like
I don't get why they don't just... Employ a simple point system like l...
Thats just the american redneck way lol
prisma blaze
Never Iâll just post the points first
buoyant shale
They filmed the Daytona 24 scene in the movie at Auto Club
Yeah but my question is
Why
prisma blaze
P1 - 30 | +5p
P2 - 29
P3 - 28
P4 - 27
P5 - 26
P6 - 25
P7 - 24
P8 - 23
P9 - 22
P10 - 21
P11 - 20
P12 - 19
P13 - 18
P14 - 17
P15 - 16
P16 - 15
P17 - 14
P18 - 13
P19 - 12
P20 - 11
P21 - 10
P22 - 9
P23 - 8
P24 - 7
P25 - 6
P26 - 5
P27 - 4
P28 - 3
P29 - 2
P30 - 1
P31 / P40 - 0
buoyant shale
Why not just... At Daytona
midnight kite
Coz to make it classic looking
Daytona looks too modern to symbolize its old 60's vibe
prisma blaze
Is that scoring system better
midnight kite
Imagine putting FL points on NASCAR
lethal yacht
Bro at this rate I'll post my whple ass technical reg ladder
prisma blaze
What should 34 be
midnight kite
Iirc, Auto Club was also used to feature the first ever American round in SuperGT in 2004
lethal yacht
Auto Club as in Fontana?
lethal yacht
It... It has a road course?
marble willow
Yes
midnight kite
But seriously tho... Auto Club's "Road course" is just bruhh
valid grove
2 of them (3 if you wanna count the test circuit)
lethal yacht
Instead of turning it into a short track, can we turn Fontana into a 4 miler instead?
marble willow
Iirc, Auto Club was also used to feature the first ever American round in SuperG...
Imagine if Super GT returned to America for a second time
midnight kite
I know this would probably be in #otď˝games or #otď˝memes but Auto Club has the most bruhh road course layout https://youtu.be/P2us7lcrc-c
lethal yacht
Super GT is just the Japanese offshoot of IMSA GTO change my mind
midnight kite
Imagine if Super GT returned to America for a second time
They'd probably choose a better track this time, either CoTA or even Road Am
midnight kite
Super GT is just the Japanese offshoot of IMSA GTO change my mind
Well technically, Super Silhouette Group 5 was the grandfather of JGTC/SuperGT
marble willow
They'd probably choose a better track this time, either CoTA or even Road Am
Road America kinda sounds good
Or maybe the full Watkins Glen layout
lethal yacht
I just feel like DTM, TA and Super GT should kinda converge as a whole op ass thing but idk if that'd work
midnight kite
And if my memory is correct, GTO came from Group 5 regulations
prisma blaze
Or maybe the full Watkins Glen layout
I think they should but there are no seats back there so
They donât want to
midnight kite
I just feel like DTM, TA and Super GT should kinda converge as a whole op ass th...
Well they did in 2018 (SGT and DTM), it was called Class One, but DTM decided to yeet Silhouette racing cars and move to a more cheaper GT3 regulations
marble willow
DTM is now a pile of shit.
lethal yacht
Yeah I know
But like
Fantasy regs of mine and such want it so
Where they converge on like an 800-900hp top class kinds thing
midnight kite
Also, if you consider the type of cars that joined GT500 class in the past, GT500 is basically the modern day GT1
marble willow
Yeah I know
Might as well call it the IGTM (Internationale Grosser Tourenwagen Meisterschaft)
midnight kite
Again... they were supposed to be called Class One
lethal yacht
Yeah
marble willow
Yeah
lethal yacht
Also, if you consider the type of cars that joined GT500 class in the past, GT50...
This is what I kinda want
An op GT1, with a Touring category like GT500 just behind
Maybe equal
midnight kite
lethal yacht
Yeah that's what I meant
But restrictors even less than the GT3
Coz GT500 makes what? 650?
marble willow
Yeah
lethal yacht
Yeah coz in the chad Prius, the combined peak of that and the Hybrid is still 300 or so
The GT3 is 550
But like... GT3 engines seem like they could do way more than they do
marble willow
JAF GT3 > Normal GT3
tawny elbowBOT
Congrats @marble willow, you're now on lap 10
lethal yacht
JAF GT300 suprem
marble willow
JAF GT300 cars on the Nurburgring would be a treat
lethal yacht
Just don't ask where the restrictors went
buoyant shale
Well they did in 2018 (SGT and DTM), it was called Class One, but DTM decided to...
It's such a fucking shame that Class One failed so fucking miserably
lethal yacht
Ooooh the X3
lethal steeple
looks real tidy, real aggressive
lethal yacht
Was it built in co-op with anyone else?
lethal steeple
however
on pure pace. 4 laps down
and only managed to get a point because of crashes
lethal steeple
Was it built in co-op with anyone else?
the bodywork was built by suter
lethal yacht
WHO
lethal yacht
I see
lethal steeple
they also made a prototype in collaboration with sauber and petronas
lethal yacht
Ooooh?
lethal steeple
unraced as well
as petronas decided. nah fuck motogp
and funded an abysmal world superbike project đ
lethal steeple
yep that
marble willow
Its 3 cylinder engine sounds good
lethal yacht
Bruh
lethal steeple
Andrew Pitt finished the Sepang test a massive 5.4s off the pace as it became apparent that the new Ilmor 800cc machine faces a massive task to be competitive for the start of the new MotoGP season in four weeks.
meanwhile
BMW were... working
lethal yacht
YO
spark bay
Wtf bmw williams motogp
lethal steeple
no, just BMW
lethal yacht
that posture looks awful
lethal steeple
thats how they... compete
lethal yacht
what enyin tho
lethal steeple
Suter also had its own model of the X3
timber umbra
tacit garden
those rear wing fins đ
normal spear
that x3 is an odd looking thing
drifting sentinel
forgot how good CGR's sharkfin design was, love it
lethal yacht
Unfortunately I only remember their bad luck
drifting sentinel
yeah đ
lethal steeple
Still a great result for their debut
lethal yacht
The Ally DPi.VR this year was the best by faaaar
timber umbra
arctic wyvern
when early to formula e video
unique trout
anybody here watches WTCR?
tacit garden
I used to but it's difficult since it's only on Eurosport here
unique trout
I used to but it's difficult since it's only on Eurosport here
Im in europe too
Altough i only watched race replays in 2019 last time
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Charouz reveals all-new line-up for 2021 F2 season
spark bay
David beckmann 
Guillherme samaia 
Samaia will finally have some company at the bottom of the grid from deledda
paper brook
Twitter
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | RLL reveals new five-race primary sponsor for Sato
spare matrix
idk why but it looks more satisfying watching formula e cars go round in the rain
than any other motorsport
unique trout
Agree
spare matrix
I really wonder how FE's aero is compared to F1's
@midnight kite Formula e focuses alot more on the underbody and floor of the cars compared to having big wings in F1
midnight kite
idk why but it looks more satisfying watching formula e cars go round in the rai...
Pretty weird that Season 5 Paris e Prix is the only time Formula E had rain race
normal spear
Twitter
timber umbra
Damn
rain elk
lethal yacht
RIPđđđđđ
rain elk
Twitter
normal spear
river tinsel
https://twitter.com/GresiniRacing/status/1363977661127806978?s=19
from the team's verified account
Twitter
normal spear
oh dear that is a shocker
rain elk
simoncelli is playing tricks on us
lethal steeple
Fucked up
floral urchinBOT
:newspaper: | Jimmie Johnsonâs Carvana IndyCar livery unveiled
vale willow
lethal steeple
sacred geyser
how
lethal yacht
Basically what Red Bull and Honda are gonna do right?
timber umbra
unique trout
https://twitter.com/GresiniRacing/status/1364146617587273731?s=20
Is this one not fake?
lethal steeple
Is this one not fake?
did you read the twitter handle
midnight kite
It's really hard to see how Gresini Racing would continue with their current state
lethal yacht
First Campos, now Gresini...
lethal steeple
It's really hard to see how Gresini Racing would continue with their current sta...
gresini is to sign with suzuki
and aprilia will start its own factory team
midnight kite
We finally having a Suzuki satellite team?!
timber umbra
timber umbra
lethal yacht
midnight kite
Romain got not chill
He's actually not far off with a team that isn't fast for the series
lethal yacht
Yeah, Iâm surprised
midnight kite
Coyne better do a miracle with the car
lethal yacht
I might need to start watching Indy just to see how Romain shapes up