motorsports

[grizzled palm]

McDowell not off the cards either.

Although I don't want that.

Either way, FRM TOP 10 BABY.

[rain solstice]

Lets go!

[fierce grove]

LET'S GOOOOOOOO CHRISTOPHER BELL

[ashen cedar]

Damn Epic fail

That’s on me I should’ve started him

[grizzled palm]

Truex P fucking 7 unbelievable recovery.

[fading prawn]

I'mma head out, gotta do better, see you guys anytime.

[fierce grove]

Phoenix I love you today

[grizzled palm]

Nah man don't beat yourself up over it, we're just correcting you 🤷

Everyone's wrong and has spouted some stupid ass takes we've all been there.

[ashen cedar]

aye yo

[fierce grove]

@autumn briar Bell win we live

[grizzled palm]

I mean I support Hamlin and FRM so...I have to have some stupid ass takes.

[ashen cedar]

That was cool

[fading prawn]

Thanks.

[grizzled palm]

And Sargeant in F1.

That's debatably worse 💀

[fierce grove]

I support Joey Logano for fun and no profit

[fading prawn]

Anyways, GOODBYE!

[rain solstice]

Solid race but the big test comes down to Bristol

[lethal yacht]

*Martinsville

[floral urchin]

📰 | Chevrolet IndyCar drivers hail off-season gains for 1-2-3-4 result

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/chevrolet-indycar-drivers-hail-off-season-gains/10586245/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=RSS-OPENWHEEL&utm_term=News&utm_content=www

[west notch]

https://www.motorsport.com/super-formula/news/pourchaire-worried-for-super-formula-prospects-after-nightmare-debut/10585966/

I kinda feel bad for him now 😟

[chrome stirrup]

brother got beaten by everyone

I got none lol

[autumn briar]

Redemption for last season’s race in Phoenix!

[warm furnace]

Man I was worried about Juju the whole race lol
But I think she did well after going off in T1

[fierce grove]

Now he just needs to win there one more time this year 🥰

[obtuse tinsel]

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/toyota-could-consider-third-full-season-entry-for-2025/

[autumn briar]

So true

[prime pine]

would be awesome ngl

[timber umbra]

Oh so the 24h Nurburgring will be part of the Intercontinental GT Challenge this year instead of being standalone

But that is a pretty depressing calendar because they only really kept the four big events of the year that teams went to

But I guess what was even more depressing was the fact the 9h Kyalami last year had like 10 entries so

[floral urchin]

📰 | Yamamoto 'never imagined' scoring podium on injury comeback in Super Formula

https://www.motorsport.com/super-formula/news/yamamoto-never-imagined-scoring-podium-on-injury-comeback-in-super-formula/10586302/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=RSS-OPENWHEEL&utm_term=News&utm_content=www

[floral urchin]

📰 | Newgarden’s “killer mentality” kicked in when he lost St. Pete lead

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/josef-newgarden-indycar-killer-mentality/10586278/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=RSS-OPENWHEEL&utm_term=News&utm_content=www

[west notch]

smh another Newgarden win

where did Palou finish

[fierce grove]

6th

He just spawned in the top ten as is his norm

[west notch]

all of my favorite drivers not getting podiums

[fierce grove]

I got Scott and Pato on the podium so I’m happy

And a Penske win even if it’s the Penske driver idc about (respectfully)

[west notch]

oh pato podium?

nvm then

[fierce grove]

Pato P2, his favorite place

[autumn briar]

with 3 or 4 of them driving only an hour as part of their separate championship

Its a shame really

[floral urchin]

📰 | Herta snags top five despite cautions derailing tire strategy in St. Pete

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/herta-snags-top-five-despite-early-caution-derailing-tire-strategy-in-st-pete/10586560/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=RSS-OPENWHEEL&utm_term=News&utm_content=www

[floral urchin]

📰 | Another year, another St. Pete runner-up for Pato O’Ward

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/another-year-another-st-pete-runner-up-for-oward/10586595/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=RSS-OPENWHEEL&utm_term=News&utm_content=www

[eternal ravine]

All my favorite drivers finished on the podium

[fierce grove]

I like 2/3 people on the podium

Not bad

[lavish shard]

you don’t like newgarden?

[west notch]

No

[fierce grove]

He’s too uncanny valley American to me

I don’t trust it

But he is a Penske driver so we take it

[lavish shard]

Colin when someone is too American to him

[fierce grove]

Naw, like Christopher Bell is incredibly American and I like him

Newgarden is just like if I asked AI to generate American Man™️ and I find that uncanny

[uneven coral]

Bell win, life is beautiful again.

[fierce grove]

Hail

[fierce grove]

https://racer.com/2024/03/11/chip-ganassi-racing-cadillac-to-part-ways-at-seasons-end/ Yo what the fuck

[lavish shard]

they couldnt handle the yellow caddy's shitty luck

[fierce grove]

Dude what the fuck is going on with Caddy 😭

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/03/11/major-changes-are-coming-to-cadillacs-hypercar-gtp-programmes.html

[west notch]

NOOOOOOOOOO

Fuck this fuck this fuck this

[lavish shard]

I don't get why they'd do this

[west notch]

im never watching imsa or wec again

[fierce grove]

They should’ve won 2022 I’m guessing Cadillac is fed up

[lavish shard]

well fuckin boohoo its racing get over themselves lmao

[fierce grove]

CGR has thrown away a lot if you’re Cadillac

So ig they’re like “out with you let’s see if someone else can do better”

Im fairness that’s also racing

[west notch]

fuck them

[lavish shard]

yeah fuck cadillac

me and my homies hate cadillac now

never driving them again in iracing

963 my beauty

[fierce grove]

HELL YEAH

United better not run Caddy

I wanna see the McLaren Hypercar happen

[west notch]

is that possible 😱

[fierce grove]

Not if United run Caddy it isn’t

Actually wait TF sport are running Corvettes

Maybe they’ll run Caddy in WEC

[uneven coral]

Except there was someone indeed better, it was the team who won last year's championship with the same car.

[fierce grove]

No Palou GTP 🫠

[uneven coral]

I'm not sure about WEC, as there's a single entry which is CGR's.

[uneven coral]

He could get his way into GTP by driving the Acuras now, I think?

[fierce grove]

I guess

[fierce grove]

TF and United have been tossed around

Which

I would prefer TF so McLaren hypercar has half of a chance ah happening

[uneven coral]

https://x.com/PipoDerani/status/1767319772897714296?s=20

Pipo Derani (@PipoDerani) on X

🤨

Twitter · Mar 11, 2024, 10:40 PM

[fierce grove]

😭mf always on twitter

I wouldn’t mind MSR taking the Caddy for IMSA

[uneven coral]

This leaves CGR with Alpine if the latter is willing to enter IMSA.

[lavish shard]

what a fall from grace that'd be lmfao

[plush flicker]

I was wondering if anyone else noticed lol

Didn't Noda actually have a relatively decent race in the end 😵‍💫

When I looked up the result I was surprised to see she was basically just at the back of the pack without any particular gap

And then I read that her 4 seconds off the pace quali time was actually because she never even did a push lap in quali

Due to a comms issue lmao

[mellow mountain]

anyone watching motogp currently?

[plush flicker]

I was honestly expecting her to get lapped more than once

And she didn't even get lapped once

[fierce grove]

In honor of this motherfucker ending a whole program

Honestly worse than Hamilton to Ferrari for me

[plush flicker]

What happened

They pulled out?

[fierce grove]

CGR and Cadillac relationship is "fractured"

[plush flicker]

Lol

[fierce grove]

No more CGR run Caddy after this year

[plush flicker]

Well

Time heals all wounds

Alex

https://tenor.com/view/alex-palou-gif-9334590771813606381

[plush flicker]

Yeah

I only watch motogp on and off

Well

I always keep up with it yet Im not really a motogp watcher

If it was on 4 wheels I'd have already stopped watching f1 lol

And just watched motogp but something about bikes idc about that much

That said I like the actual competition of it

[west notch]

Colin says otherwise but most of the time Colin is wrong

true story

[plush flicker]

How did theo end up behind

I know he broke a front wing

Did noda also have an issue?

I heard something about going off

Was there a safety car at any point?

Ah early safety car

[west notch]

He ran off the track

somehow

SF doesnt give good replays

or replays at all

[plush flicker]

Yeah I know

That's why I'm asking I have no clue lmao

[west notch]

He said he was pushing too hard

[plush flicker]

I tried to look it up

Super formula coverage is abysmal

[west notch]

it really is

that or F1 has spoiled us

[plush flicker]

No wonder nobody reports on it

Nah its jsut bad

Like compare it to BTCC

BTCC, a totally amateur sport basically

[west notch]

yeah (i dont watch btcc)

[plush flicker]

Has full replay coverage across the track

And always has

Bearing in mind that you can race in btcc if you want to

[west notch]

wdym

[plush flicker]

All you need is aboht a million quid and passable results in a few clio Cup races

[west notch]

ah

the usual

[plush flicker]

And then you buy a random car of your choice and stick an engine in it

And roll cage

And there you go, btcc.

[plush flicker]

It's kinda cool in that sense because sometimes some really old guys are actually good

Dave Newsham was one of them

He's just a businessman from the UK in his 40s and he bought an old vectra

Ended up winning races in it

[west notch]

why dont i just stay in clio cup and save money

wrong reply

[plush flicker]

Cos clio cup is lame and the races are like 5 laps long

Idk if it even is clio cup anymore at one point it was seat Leon cup

It's just some random shitty hatch

With no power

[fierce grove]

I mean it was okay? I still think it was pretty suboptimal to have a clean race for her end but finish still 50 seconds behind her teammate

Like that’s not where you want to be in that scenario. If you’re judging her to a lower standard sure but to be 50 seconds off the pace of your teammate in a 31 lap race is fairly abysmal by normal standards

[plush flicker]

Also by some strange coincidence my old best friend from school's sister's ex boyfriend is Dan Cammish 🤔

[west notch]

that's fine

I wanna race

[plush flicker]

At the 2017 F1 British GP he was in the Carrera cup support race (and champion of that series) and they were interviewing him and my friends sister over the tannoy while I was watching Leclerc go out for F2 qualifying lol

Kinda sad though because my friend actually died a few years before that 🙏 weird experience to say the least

[plush flicker]

I'm sure they're ready with the credit card machine

Get your hans and alpinestars shit and go

[plush flicker]

Apparently it is mini challenge now

[west notch]

Was Mini Cooper fine with that

[plush flicker]

Looks goofy

Mini with a splitter

[west notch]

thought we were talking about renault

[plush flicker]

We were lol

That's what I said about it, before it was seat Leon challenge

Sometimes it randomly changes

Below btcc there's always some random one make series

Usually it was clio but apparently now it is mini

Changed during covid

Guess all the French people died off

No more clios

🙏

It's a pretty good life really being a btcc driver you can even be morbidly obese and you'll still be able to do it

Most inclusive sport

Just so long as you can bankroll yourself

Hell Lewis Hamiltons brother is literally disabled and he does btcc lol

[west notch]

how fast are btcc cars

[plush flicker]

Very

About 400bhp

Quite a lot of aero

[west notch]

are they quicker than gt4

[plush flicker]

Hm

Not sure

They're what DTM should have become

If DTM wanted to stay a real sport

Because they use the real road car chassis

And just throw a cage in it and they all have the same engine and electronics

So you can basically use any rolling chassis you want

A few years ago some guy even used a Toyota Avensis of all vehicles and won in it

[west notch]

Gonna bring a dark horse

[plush flicker]

And also Civic Estate

Also

The BMW and Audi are actually RWD

there's no rule against RWD which is interesting

Because it really mixes up the field

Cant think of any other series with fwd and rwd compete together

[west notch]

I'd gladly take RWD

[plush flicker]

Rwd is good at starts

However it is worse in rain

Also in btcc there aren't many rules against contact

It's definitely a contact sport lol

Formula E is the closest thing to btcc

Very similar certainly gen 2 formula e especially

If someone pushes you in a fwd car you can floor it

And pull out of the slide

Rwd just goes around usually

So it's a mixed bag

[west notch]

I guess but handling wise I would take RWD

[plush flicker]

Rwd is better overall but at one point it was pretty balanced

They had to reduce a couple of things with the rwd cars to balance it back out a while back

When they went to hybrid engines

Because rwd was too good at putting power down

Well, torque

[west notch]

oh btcc cars are hybrids?

[plush flicker]

Yeah

I heard WRC is getting rid of hybrid

Due to cost

I think we will see the death of this type of thing soon

Racing is gonna become like horse racing

[lavish shard]

Select few series can even properly afford hybrids

[plush flicker]

Where we know its archaic but who cares

[plush flicker]

Yeah

WRC cars cost a million now

Like....

Why

No wonder the field has been empty for 20 years

[lavish shard]

It's impressive how out of touch some of these series are with their competitors lmao

[plush flicker]

Yeah

Well the ironic thing is

WRC had a competition series

It was called WRC2

[fierce grove]

WRC is a hot mess

[plush flicker]

WRC is the one where there's like 2 drivers

[lavish shard]

make it the premier class smh.

[fierce grove]

Yes

[plush flicker]

It's a shame becuase WRC had a good thing going

[west notch]

are indycars hybrids yet

[plush flicker]

The commentary guy in WRC was really exceptional

Not sure if he's on the international broadcasts

[lavish shard]

nah they aren't coming till summer I believe.

[plush flicker]

But in the UK whoever he is that did it forever is actually amazing

[west notch]

also also also where is David Malukas, no way he is still broken

[lavish shard]

for whatever reason roger penske thinks its a bright idea to put a hybrid component with an engine that Honda was already complaining about getting too expensive for them

[lavish shard]

yep still broken

[west notch]

awww

[lavish shard]

ilott filled in for him

[west notch]

oh good for him

[fierce grove]

Kill me

[west notch]

after being replaced for Grosjean

[fierce grove]

They're gonna lose Honda anyway

[west notch]

why

[fierce grove]

I mean Honda's saying Indy's getting too expensive and they're bringing in a hybrid now

And Nascar wants Honda in

So

Nascar has so much more to offer Honda than Indycar does

For one, people watch Nascar

[west notch]

Lol honda broke

[lavish shard]

they really need to change the engine regulations, make them cheaper and get 4-5 manufacturers in

[plush flicker]

Why did they ditch the 2.4s

Surely that part is the easy bit

[fierce grove]

You want Roger Penske to make a good decision for Indycar

[plush flicker]

Indycar is honestly an example of how giving one person total control fucks up sport

How many decades of this have we seen now

[lavish shard]

probably because chevy and honda could only afford one or the other in regards to the hybrid and ice

[plush flicker]

Like 3 decades of bad decisions

[plush flicker]

Lol

So the obvious choice is the 2.4 engine

And they pick hybrid

😂

Big brain

2.4 engine gives them a speed boost and modernization of the ICE

Which is literally a fucking relic

At this point

Thing is so old that its gonna end up being the second oldest racing engine in history

Behind the og Cosworth

No capacity change or any real change at all

Just keeps going and going

[lavish shard]

it's just so bonkers to me that they refuse to put themselves out there

[fierce grove]

Bro the fucking chassis

[lavish shard]

the chassis is as old as my grandma brother

[fierce grove]

The chassis is older than some people on this server I bet

[plush flicker]

I'm not counting nascar because until recently it was just a free for all on the engines

The chassis and engine are the same age but at least the chassis had an aerokit change twice

Engine hasn't had shit

[west notch]

how old is the chassis

[lavish shard]

like

past 10 years

[plush flicker]

The chassis is named after Dan Wheldon who tested it

So yeah

[fierce grove]

It's older than one of my siblings

That's how bad it is

[plush flicker]

Originally called IR12 before Wheldon was killed

That's why it is DW12

[signal latch]

we are going on year 12

[west notch]

ah not bad

[plush flicker]

The original chassis tub was the same but the aerokit was totally different

[signal latch]

yeah aerokit changed in 2018

[plush flicker]

And 2015

[signal latch]

that as well

[plush flicker]

They had the engine aerokit

[signal latch]

yea

[plush flicker]

Which were uggg asf

[signal latch]

its still crazy to me that u can really only develop the dampers as the main thing

i think right?

i may be wrong on that

correct me with im wrong

[plush flicker]

Well actually I applaud the aerokits for having the batshjt crazy look but they were ugly asf still lol

[west notch]

I loved those

[plush flicker]

Reminds me of the logical continuation of F1 in 1985

[west notch]

they look so fucking crazy

[plush flicker]

If they hadn't banned all of the stuff

[west notch]

so much going on

[tawny elbow]

Congrats @plush flicker, you're now on lap 5

[plush flicker]

Similar vibe lol

[lavish shard]

no new chassis, no new engine but we have ✨ hybrid ✨, no marketing, peacock's existence, 'small' calendar, manufacturers unhappy, honda wanting to pull out

i can go on

[plush flicker]

They are ugly but I think they're mad enough to be cool

[signal latch]

u might as well

lmfao

[plush flicker]

Very dad shoe

[west notch]

Lmao

[plush flicker]

Lol

[west notch]

Peacock

I wish I could remove them from the face of the earth

[plush flicker]

Lol

[signal latch]

Less races on NBC this year very smart marketing decision right there folks

[plush flicker]

Also

[signal latch]

smfh

[lavish shard]

I've never seen a service with such horrible broadcasting quality.

[plush flicker]

I don't like the commentary

At all

Tbh

[signal latch]

"WOAHHHHHHHHH"

[signal latch]

"OHHHHHHHHHHHH"

its so annoying sometimes

[plush flicker]

Who are the two guys who are always arguing

Hinch and someone else isn't it

[lavish shard]

hey no dissing the commentary crew

[plush flicker]

I literally forgot who

[fierce grove]

Cut to Jon Bon Jovi in the broadcast, that’s what the kids want 😭

[signal latch]

T Bell

[west notch]

Leave Hinchcliffe alone

[plush flicker]

Is it hinch and bell?

[signal latch]

yeah

[lavish shard]

if bernie was still in control of tv direction

mid race battle going on and we get a crowd shot

[signal latch]

we never get crowd shots tbh

in indycar

[plush flicker]

They have such a bad chemistry they have awkward moments and seem to have some actual beef with each other sometimes

[lavish shard]

good

[fierce grove]

Theres no crowd to shoot

[plush flicker]

During the 500 one of them made a comment and the other seemed genuinely pissed

[signal latch]

that

ur right

[plush flicker]

Pretty funny

[plush flicker]

I don't like Leigh Diffey

[signal latch]

yeah lol

[plush flicker]

[signal latch]

don't like him either tbh

[plush flicker]

What I don't get about indycar

Is what the fuck happened to Paul Page

Why didn't they bring him back after the awful 2005

Dude should still be the lead commentator today lol

[signal latch]

yea

[lavish shard]

i like him

[plush flicker]

He ended up doing fucking NHRA

...

[lavish shard]

he's good at generating hype imo.

[plush flicker]

And radio

Like

[signal latch]

tbh the production is meh

and i get they cant really change that cause they dont got the budget for that type of stuff

[plush flicker]

Low key even though he's a giant idiot I liked Paul Tracy on commentary

[signal latch]

but yea

[plush flicker]

He has the opinions of a man from 1945 but he's also very observant

[signal latch]

yup

[plush flicker]

I remember when Wilson was killed Tracy immediately knew

Before anyone else had even realised wtf happened

[signal latch]

yea

[plush flicker]

He was like "I'm pretty sure Wilson just got hit by debris" and then he was tracking the shot for it in the replay before he even knew

And he was dead on

He even identified that it was really bad because of the size of the piece

[signal latch]

yea

[lavish shard]

well if roger would work with other companies and make himself appealing, budget wouldn't be a problem

[signal latch]

agreed

[tawny elbow]

Congrats @signal latch, you're now on lap 20

[plush flicker]

Unfortunately Tracy treats social media like he's in 1982

And I think he got dropped due to that lol

[lavish shard]

So so many people would be willing to work with IndyCar because it is truly a diamond in the rough racing series

[signal latch]

just realized that liberty were the other buyers but the holmann or whatever its called family gave it to roger instead

[lavish shard]

I feel like Liberty would end up making it more in line with F1

[signal latch]

thats fair

[lavish shard]

I think the general foundation of the sport should stay the same, definitely do not add factory teams

[signal latch]

well we will see in a couple more years if that was the right decision because so far it turns out it wasn't

and i understand why they gave it to roger and it makes 100% sense

but ye

[lavish shard]

well there is no way of getting it out of his hands now

[signal latch]

right

[lavish shard]

he thinks hes gonna pass this on like its a family heirloom lmao

[signal latch]

lmfao

[signal latch]

agreed

ive kinda lost interest in indycar idk why

but yea

[west notch]

I've lost interest ever since Malukas decided he wanted to be like Stroll

[lavish shard]

its hard to keep supporting something that is in the process of digging its own grave

[signal latch]

yea

[lavish shard]

but i do it anyway because theres no other series that gives me what I am looking for with open wheel cars

[signal latch]

yea

[west notch]

It's the best open wheel series in terms of racing

[signal latch]

yea that's fair

although there are some races that are complete borefests

imho

like iowa

although there is alot of action Usually the penskes just sweep the weekend and no other cars can come near them

[signal latch]

there are some pretty bad races ngl

[west notch]

in indycar?

[signal latch]

there have been not saying there always are

cause the racing is overall really good

yea

[west notch]

Just bring back texas speedway

I totally agree tho

[signal latch]

Nope replaced with another short oval

[west notch]

like Indianapolis RC was dull last season

[signal latch]

did u watch the iowa races?

[west notch]

maybe

i dont remember

[signal latch]

i happened to actually to go to both races in person

so cool to see motorsport in real time

but the races were

[west notch]

aren't we getting an oval in nashville tho

[signal latch]

penske dominated

[signal latch]

yea

[west notch]

to replace the street course

[signal latch]

yea

[west notch]

that's lit

[signal latch]

superspeedway

yea

[west notch]

now if they could just do that with every other non superspeedway

[signal latch]

yup

[fierce grove]

Oh In de car

[signal latch]

yea

im just glad that we are talking other motorsports tbh

getting tired of f1 talk

[fierce grove]

Sad as shit how a series with great talents, brilliant racing product, and an event as important as the Indy 500 to motorsport on the whole has managed to fumble so hard

[signal latch]

yup

[lavish shard]

indy 500....

[signal latch]

apparently there are now indycar trading cards

[lavish shard]

i dont wanna be reminded of what the hell they were talking about earlier in the week

[fierce grove]

Don’t remind me

[lavish shard]

whoever proposed a charter agreement needs to be jailed

indefinite solitary confinement

[fierce grove]

Exile from society

[lavish shard]

you cant help but think they're killing themselves on purpose

[plush flicker]

The what?

Charter for the indy 500?

[fierce grove]

It’s so bad

[signal latch]

they dont have the budget unfortunately

man

[fierce grove]

Octavia it’s dire

[plush flicker]

Lmao

So like

[signal latch]

yup

[signal latch]

You said it best lmfao

[plush flicker]

They'd have confirmed entry spots

In indy 500

...

[fierce grove]

The way they made their own bullshit DTS and no one watched it even if it’s free bc they have NO CLUE how to market themselves

It’s so embarrassing

[signal latch]

yup renewed for another season

smfh

[plush flicker]

It's amazing that Indycar has flopped so much

[fierce grove]

0 marketing awareness for the best product you could get

[plush flicker]

It's had some of the best motorsport racing and msot competitive

[signal latch]

I dont know if they just drink a bottle of each wine before making decisions its just backwards thinking if im gonna be honest with you

[plush flicker]

Its had competitive female drivers even, it should be a marketing dream and yet

Nobody watches it and they drive it into the ground

[fierce grove]

Ik F1 fans shit on Liberty and DTS fans but they don’t know how good they’ve got it with a series that’s got money and attention and desire for growth

[signal latch]

well maybe indycar should have done the same

[fierce grove]

As opposed to a series that just wants to jump off a building at every opportunity

[plush flicker]

Simona De Silvestro losing her seat in 2013/2015

[signal latch]

and given it to liberty

but they didnt

[plush flicker]

Literally how and why

How did indycar let that happen at all

[signal latch]

thats on the holmann family for giving to roger instead

and guess what

now we are here

[plush flicker]

The marketing of having a female driver who is competitive

And they just blew it

[signal latch]

and i dont wanna hear oh they would have made it just like f1

well it would definitely be better then the shit we have right now

[fierce grove]

Dude F1 has MONEY

That’s good enough

[plush flicker]

Simona was faster than Barichello was straight out of F1 in 2012 vs kannan

😂

[signal latch]

yeah i know they do

[plush flicker]

On road courses...

[lavish shard]

people eat that shit up though

even with decreased viewership people still love it

[signal latch]

ur right

[fierce grove]

People need to realize that F1 is successful as hell and maybe Indy needs to start ripping that formula whether you like it or not

[plush flicker]

Jimmie Johnson was hilarious in indycar a couple of years ago, absolutely fucking useless on road courses but a beast on ovals

And spins and doesn't put it in the wall

Multiple times

🧠

[lavish shard]

meanwhile indy is doing the opposite in literally every field

marketing? cant do that since f1 is already doing that

new engine regulations? cant do that either

[fierce grove]

Indycar just wanna die instead

[plush flicker]

F1 honestly is successful just off of the back of the fact it is the fastest

It's been so bad for so long

The only thing that keeps it going is flashes of interest

[lavish shard]

Operationally though, it's at it's best imo.

[plush flicker]

And they happen often enough just to keep people around

For example

[signal latch]

maybe liberty will consider buying indy again

but i doubt it now

smfh

[lavish shard]

are they going to drug penske to make that happen

because it aint gonna be a thing any other way

he refuses to sell a stake in indycar lmao

[signal latch]

it was going to until the holman family decided to give it to roger instead

[fierce grove]

F1 right now is successful off of having figured out the way to grow a sports fandom

[plush flicker]

2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2014 etc had watchable moments

[lavish shard]

give someone a bit of control alongside him to make the ideas happen

[plush flicker]

But some seasons of F1 are unwatchable

[plush flicker]

It had a very big head start

Tbh

And got quite lucky recently

[signal latch]

agreed

[fierce grove]

Like last year but they manage because they cracked it first

[lavish shard]

the early-mid 2010's were when bernie really started making it fall off

[fierce grove]

And they continue to do so

[plush flicker]

The issue with f1

Is that they have removed inconsistency

Everything is too perfect

There's so little variables occurring

Engines reliable organisation top tier

It's no wonder verstappen wins every race

[lavish shard]

we still have the rotational stewarding team

[plush flicker]

Well I mean on track

People cried about the 2012 tyre cliff

And claimed that drivers need to be able to push all race

Ignoring the fact that if everyone pushed

Like now

Nothing happens

It was better with the tyre cliff lol.

[lavish shard]

i don't really think the drivers push that much now either

It feels like majority of the calendar is tyre management

not racing

[plush flicker]

Not enough

Tyres should go back to 2012 spec immediately imo

[lavish shard]

brazil for example, you couldn't push the tyre at all last year.

[plush flicker]

If you go one lap over then that's 5 seconds slower

That would at least mix up the order and force some tyre gambles

[lavish shard]

ferrari strategists in shambles

[plush flicker]

Right now shit is so tedious because nothing like that exists anymore

F1 just desperately needs randomness to return

[fierce grove]

Or to make less of its track running accessible

Shit used to be exciting when you didn’t see all of testing all of practice because you didn’t know nearly as much in a shorter season

[plush flicker]

Well

Idk I don't think that makes much difference

Even if we didn't it would still suck

It would just be like watching f1 2002/2004

Where youre in the dark until race day but you know who is gonna win

And his name begins with the letter M

Very much like today

Also involves red

And a farm animal

Back in the refueling era it used to mix up the grid

[fierce grove]

And people hated Michael back then too bless lmfaoooo

[plush flicker]

People forget that about refueling

Because they started on different fuel loads it caused lots of different outcomes

[fierce grove]

Most modern fans don’t remember refueling at all

[plush flicker]

Single lap qualifying with race fuel was easily the best format they ever did

[chrome stirrup]

but everything happens at the pits

thank god they removed it

[plush flicker]

But even then there was more overtakes than now and the grid was mixed up

Which sometimes paid off

[chrome stirrup]

lmao no

it got barely any overtakes

[plush flicker]

But right now there's zero overtakes

They're all DRS overtakes

[chrome stirrup]

and that's a hell lot more than what we used to got

[plush flicker]

Back then they were organic

I don't even agree

Even with DRS there's barely any

[chrome stirrup]

yeah, feasting on teams that spent 200 mil less than you

[chrome stirrup]

again, still a lot more than back in the day

[plush flicker]

Just not though

[chrome stirrup]

it is

[plush flicker]

Often there's almost zero

[chrome stirrup]

that never happened

[fierce grove]

DRS racing is still boring as shit unless you get a 2022 Jeddah type thing

[plush flicker]

And DRS doesn't count

[fierce grove]

Which hasn’t happened since

[chrome stirrup]

why not

[fierce grove]

2022 Jeddah really

[plush flicker]

It has lol

Monaco

[chrome stirrup]

when?

[plush flicker]

Multiple times

Lol

[chrome stirrup]

Monaco always happened every year

even the 2000s got zero overtakes

[plush flicker]

Not every year

[chrome stirrup]

every single year

[plush flicker]

No it had happened like twice ever

[chrome stirrup]

Monaco got almost zero overtakes since the 80s

it's their tradition

[plush flicker]

Drs overtakes are sterile and boring

Press button and win

At least back in the day there was a real chase

Without drs, overtaking wouldn't ever happen now

[chrome stirrup]

it also didn't happen back then lmao

[plush flicker]

So I don't really buy the whole refueling ruined f1

It did vs now

[chrome stirrup]

cause everything happened off track

[plush flicker]

Remove Drs today and compare it to the 2000s and you'll have way less overtakes

[chrome stirrup]

why would you remove DRS lol

it's a necessity

like push to pass and shit

[plush flicker]

Again, these days the cars are already in order.

They start the grid in the positions they finish in

[chrome stirrup]

and they overtake on track, you're welcome

[plush flicker]

No they don't usually they undercut

It's actually worse for that than refueling was

[fierce grove]

F1 racing is and always has been dire anyway

[plush flicker]

Because refueling had no undercut

[plush flicker]

Didn't used to be

Just since 93

[fierce grove]

I’ve watched pretty much every full race that exists

[plush flicker]

The terminal mistake was making the cars too thin

[fierce grove]

Yes it’s been dire forever

[chrome stirrup]

they actually undercut these days, there is no undercut or overcut back then lol

[plush flicker]

I've seen pretty much everything too

[chrome stirrup]

the 80s are proper boats

[chrome stirrup]

because they didn't have blue flags

they count lapping as overtaking

which is why there's a steep decline come the 90s

[plush flicker]

The decline was when the cars stopped being able to follow each other

[chrome stirrup]

cars stopped being able to follow each other since the 80s

[plush flicker]

And stopped punching a hole in the air

It happened in 93

[chrome stirrup]

since some genius discovered front and rear wings

[chrome stirrup]

nah, since the 80s

dirty air was a big problem then

[plush flicker]

Compared to now it was zero

Big fat tyres, wide chassis, very short

Big hole in the air

Now cars are narrow

And about to be even narrower

[chrome stirrup]

nah, it was very big back then

cause they don't have the overspeed to compensate

[lavish shard]

think it was adrian newey's uncle

[plush flicker]

It just wasn't

Lol

[chrome stirrup]

damn him

[plush flicker]

F1 cars could follow under the rear wing forever

Nothing like today

[chrome stirrup]

but not to overtake

they are also stuck <1s behind

[plush flicker]

But the difference is thanks to the big tyres etc they also had slip stream

They weren't

That's the difference

[chrome stirrup]

they were

[plush flicker]

I mean its not a debate

[chrome stirrup]

F1 racing was dire in the late 80s

[chrome stirrup]

because?

[plush flicker]

They weren't and the proof is there

Because that's not what happened

[chrome stirrup]

where?

[plush flicker]

Lol

On the broadcasts

[chrome stirrup]

which one?

[plush flicker]

All

[chrome stirrup]

like?

[plush flicker]

Idk what you mean

[chrome stirrup]

one example of course

[plush flicker]

All f1 races lol

[chrome stirrup]

yeah give one example

[plush flicker]

There's no need for one example lol

All of them

[chrome stirrup]

because?

I've just searched a 80s race and promptly get bored by the lack of overtakes in the highlights

[plush flicker]

Because they had more overtakes on average every single race

[chrome stirrup]

man those cars were shit

[chrome stirrup]

they don't

[plush flicker]

Yet the stats show it was double that of the 2000s and like 10x more than today outside of drs

Which means basically nothing as nobody cares about drs overtakes

[chrome stirrup]

because they count lapping as overtake till the early 90s

if they use the same measurement, it would explode the 2010s number by god

[plush flicker]

Does it even say that anywhere

[chrome stirrup]

well if you watch F1, you would lol

but since you're clearly just searching for meaningless stat in google, well that's what happened

[chrome stirrup]

and?

[plush flicker]

Does not include lapping and unlapping

[chrome stirrup]

who?

[plush flicker]

Who what

[chrome stirrup]

why would a random wall of text be relevant

[plush flicker]

Because they made the chart obviously

[chrome stirrup]

who's they

[plush flicker]

And it doesn't include lapping so you are simply wrong

Does it matter

[chrome stirrup]

who?

[chrome stirrup]

yes?

[plush flicker]

No

[chrome stirrup]

because blue flag rules wasn't created till the early 90s lmao

[plush flicker]

They didn't include lapping.

Plain and simple.

[chrome stirrup]

who's they

[plush flicker]

Doesn't matter

[chrome stirrup]

odd name

[plush flicker]

Give literally any reason why it matters who

[chrome stirrup]

so this doesn't matter manually discharge all the lapping in the 80s?

[chrome stirrup]

because blue flag rules wasn't created till the early 90s lmao

[plush flicker]

What does that even mean

[chrome stirrup]

all on track action are overtakes

there's no lapping or unlapping

[plush flicker]

Irrelevant to what I jsut asked.

[chrome stirrup]

all on track action are overtakes

there's no lapping or unlapping

before that

[plush flicker]

I just told you.

[chrome stirrup]

told what

[plush flicker]

They did not include any lapped cars in the figures.

So what is your point

[chrome stirrup]

well there's no lapping in the 80s

[plush flicker]

Blue flag or no blue flag

[chrome stirrup]

all of them has to fight for position

[plush flicker]

That's not what lapping means.

[chrome stirrup]

is it not

[plush flicker]

Lapping existed before blue flags.

[chrome stirrup]

but it's an action for position

[plush flicker]

And it was called lapping just as it is today

No it isn't.

[chrome stirrup]

nope

it wasn't

[plush flicker]

I can't argue against you if you are intent on lying

Lol

[chrome stirrup]

what

do you never watch 80s lmao

[plush flicker]

Did James Hunt ever describe Alliot getting lapped as being for position

I don't think so.

[chrome stirrup]

of course not

[plush flicker]

I have seen basically every f1 race

[chrome stirrup]

because people has to pass back then

[plush flicker]

Except it was still called lapping

[chrome stirrup]

ah yes "the All F1 GP"

the true classic

[plush flicker]

And not for position

[chrome stirrup]

different definition for overtake

[plush flicker]

What is your problem 😂

[chrome stirrup]

a lot

[plush flicker]

Like do you even have a point here

Idk

[chrome stirrup]

yes

modern F1 is by far more suitable for racing than the 80s

somewhat declining from the 2010s but eh

[plush flicker]

OK well that is obviously dead wrong so great

[chrome stirrup]

because?

[plush flicker]

Modern f1 does not even involve a race

Nothing happens

[chrome stirrup]

how so

[chrome stirrup]

well there's plenty of action most times

[plush flicker]

Lol.

[chrome stirrup]

compared to the 80s and 90s

by god were they boring

[plush flicker]

Then why are there zero overtakes

And why do they start in the position they finish

[chrome stirrup]

when was there zero overtake

[chrome stirrup]

were they

[plush flicker]

Every race usually only drs overtake which is a non event

That or undercut

Zz

[chrome stirrup]

as opposed to the 80s where everything happens at the pits

lmao

[plush flicker]

No more real battles and chases just press button and win in a straight line

Nothing happened in the pits in the 80s

[chrome stirrup]

for example only two drivers start in the position they finish last race

[plush flicker]

[chrome stirrup]

everything happened in the pits in the 80s

[plush flicker]

What even

No

You didn't watch the 80s

[chrome stirrup]

yes

[plush flicker]

[chrome stirrup]

I did, unfortunately

[plush flicker]

What happened in the pits in the 80s?

[chrome stirrup]

meaningful overtakes

[plush flicker]

Why?

[chrome stirrup]

refueling

[plush flicker]

Nope

[chrome stirrup]

yes

[plush flicker]

80s f1 didn't have refueling

Showing that you didn't watch f1 in the 80s

Lmfao

[chrome stirrup]

some of them do

[plush flicker]

F1 dabbled with refueling in 82

And then it didn't return until 94

[fierce grove]

The early 80s did

[plush flicker]

So clearly you have literally never watched it

[fierce grove]

Refueling was banned in 84

[plush flicker]

Yeah it was mostly just experimentation with brabham though

[fierce grove]

They fucked around and found out as it was

[west notch]

fact

[chrome stirrup]

84

[plush flicker]

And then 1983

[chrome stirrup]

it's not

[fierce grove]

But the 1980s was not a great decade to watch racing in.

[plush flicker]

Why do you type like that

[fierce grove]

A great decade to follow the championship

But like. Racing in and of itself is usually F1 shit

[plush flicker]

It is quite plainly you just said yourself that 80s f1 was about refueling

When it wasn't

So

[chrome stirrup]

well one of the thing in F1

[plush flicker]

How many refueling stops were there in 1980, 1981, 1982 outside of brabham, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 and 1989 again

Hm

[chrome stirrup]

more than one

[plush flicker]

Let's count

Mo

Fucking 0

[chrome stirrup]

yes

[plush flicker]

No.

Zero.

[chrome stirrup]

nope

[plush flicker]

Show me

Lets see the refueling stop

That never happened even once

Go on

[chrome stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXIOk1wx5uk

What do you think Keke

[plush flicker]

You can read right

[chrome stirrup]

see, Keke agrees with me

[chrome stirrup]

what

[plush flicker]

How many refueling stops were there in 1980, 1981, 1982 outside of brabham, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 and 1989 again

[chrome stirrup]

numbers, yes

[plush flicker]

Do you know how to count

What number is not in that list

[chrome stirrup]

what's there to count

[plush flicker]

1981, 1982, 198?

Imagine me asking you to show me refueling any year except 1983 and you send me 1983

[chrome stirrup]

you didn't say except 1983

so

[plush flicker]

I wrote a list of years.

And clearly made it plain that 1983 had refueling.

And you ignored it.

And posted 1983

Very much heading to my block list

[chrome stirrup]

and I ain't reading all that

make your point short and concise, it is discord

[plush flicker]

Because 1 sentence too hard to read

Mmk

[chrome stirrup]

ofc

hence concise

if it's short but not concise then what's the point

[plush flicker]

Well in blocking you for being painfully obnoxious so gl with whatever

[chrome stirrup]

awww

[west notch]

well that was fun

[fierce grove]

Back to more important motorsports

[chrome stirrup]

Ryan is me

(I've never been to hooters)

[west notch]

lmao

[fierce grove]

Ryan Blaney’s old tweets are truly a gem

[west notch]

Why were all these drivers so open 10 years ago lol

[fierce grove]

It’s just how twitter was 10 years ago lmao

[signal latch]

LMFAO

[west notch]

Nothing better than watching an argument on Discord

[signal latch]

i hate trigger

[west notch]

damn

what trigger do 😭

[signal latch]

he told me to talk in actual sentences and called me a npc

its like ur not any better bro

smfh

[west notch]

Trigger seems to be making a few enemies today

[fierce grove]

Dare I say he is perhaps... triggering some pushback?

[signal latch]

im just gonna start being ultra negative to him and only him to see how it feels

[autumn briar]

calma

[signal latch]

mk

[autumn briar]

https://fixupx.com/bobpockrass/status/1767220832453935543?s=20

[fierce grove]

And they say he doesn't have a personality!

Smh!

[autumn briar]

[fierce grove]

Goated scheme, goated driver, he will be champion if I can help it

[west notch]

Don't pick me next week Bob. 😠

[fierce grove]

He better not I would like Christopher to win

[craggy sonnet]

They've decided not to go ahead with timed races in Supercars this year

https://speedcafe.com/why-supercars-has-dropped-timed-races/

but the amount of laps that would be run would still equate to around an hour race time, just with certainty of the race distance

[uneven coral]

https://x.com/GTWorldChEu/status/1767542325108969950?s=2

Fanatec GT World Challenge Europe Powered by AWS (@GTWorldChEu) on X

Another Ferrari line-up confirmed 🤝

@racingteamtr 🇹🇷 will field @SYoluc and @ceastwood28 in this season's Sprint Cup.

#FanatecGT #GTWorldChEu

Twitter · Mar 12, 2024, 1:25 PM

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-türkiye-gif-2910338720357160240

[west notch]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-awkward-funny-what-huh-gif-5344114

[uneven coral]

The car is sexy in that shade of red to be fair.

[west notch]

it's

[autumn briar]

ew ferrari

[uneven coral]

What's your opinion on Salih Yoluc based of what you seen him do in ELMS last season? @autumn briar

[autumn briar]

very fast bronze in an lmp2 car

not sure what he can do in a gt3 car

[west notch]

Stimo

[fierce grove]

He’ll be fine I think

He did WEC with TF sport like 5 years ago

[modern oar]

@cursive flower

[fierce grove]

Actually wait Stimo is Yoluc still a bronze?

Or did they bump him up

[cursive flower]

RAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH

[cursive flower]

🐺🐺🐺🐺

[timber umbra]

He is silver now iirc

[fierce grove]

Ah alright

How long does he have before the age downgrades kick in even atp

[magic egret]

https://x.com/nascarman_rr/status/1767559370777280769?s=33

nascarman (@nascarman_rr) on X

In 2023, NASCAR had four races with over 4 million viewers during the entire year (Daytona, Chicago, Talladega, Fontana). This year, all four of the first four races had over 4 million viewers

Twitter · Mar 12, 2024, 2:32 PM

[magic egret]

https://twitter.com/joshahamilton/status/1766976988416451069

Josh Hamilton (@joshahamilton) on X

Today’s race had 2,813 green flag passes - the highest total of any Next Gen race at @PhoenixRaceway:

Mar 24 - 2,813
Nov 23 - 2,201
Mar 23 - 2,584
Nov 22 - 2,065
Mar 22 - 2,058

Twitter · Mar 10, 2024, 11:58 PM

[timber storm]

nascar on top rn ngl

[west notch]

I want this

[lavish shard]

Buy it

[strong heron]

Is that the - wait what is that

[west notch]

give me the money

[west notch]

apparently it's a ford gt mk4

[strong heron]

gives serious radford type 62 vibes

[west notch]

havent heard of that one

[autumn briar]

I expected he was gonna reject the increase in rating since it’s beneficial for themselves to keep it as low as possible, like Sarah and Ben have always been doing, but apparently he agreed to it.

[tight quiver]

just fucking make it a LMH

AND RACE IT

fucking ford

[fierce grove]

Surprised by that ngl

[woeful girder]

are there any motorsport event that races in weekdays

[autumn briar]

Mx5

[fierce grove]

https://twitter.com/jameypricephoto/status/1767886487184372125

jameypricephoto (@jameypricephoto) on X

Gold livery update for the 01 CGR car. Looks AMAZING.

Twitter · Mar 13, 2024, 12:12 PM

Pretty

[lavish shard]

a shame its paint is gonna be scraped against the concrete 30 laps into the race.

[fierce grove]

Bold of you to assume it won’t just limp off track to its demise

[tight quiver]

where the chat for sebring

it starts tomorrow

https://spotterguides.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SG_24_SEB_ONLINE_v1.pdf

[floral urchin]

📰 | Rosenqvist & Co. “have something cooking” after St. Pete - Shank

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/rosenqvist-and-co-have-something-cooking-after-st-pete-shank/10587124/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=RSS-OPENWHEEL&utm_term=News&utm_content=www

[floral urchin]

How Aston Martin has begun preparations for its delayed Hypercar programme

How Aston Martin has begun preparations for its delayed Hypercar programme

It was in the summer of 2019 when Aston Martin first announced its plan to build a Hypercar to the World Endurance Championship’s LMH rules.The intention was to enter the championship from 2021, but it won’t be until next year before the Valkyrie lines up on the grid at the Circuit de la Sarthe for the Le Mans 24 Hours.A lot has happened since Aston first laid out its ambition of returning to ...Keep reading

motorsport.com · Mar 13, 2024, 3:21 PM

[fierce grove]

https://x.com/23xiracing/status/1767943378509976039?s=46 Let's fucking go

23XI Racing (@23XIRacing) on X

He’s back 😉

Kamui Kobayashi rejoins 23XI Racing for his second career #NASCAR Cup Series start as he takes on COTA with teammates Bubba Wallace and Tyler Reddick. #teamtoyota

Twitter · Mar 13, 2024, 3:58 PM

[autumn briar]

WOOOOOOO

[woeful girder]

leta go

[tight quiver]

https://twitter.com/paulmilleracing/status/1767941441953669287

Paul Miller Racing (@paulmilleracing) on X

Oh she PRETTY pretty 😍

Heading back to Sebring to defend our 2023 race win with a fresh new look.
#IMSA | #Sebring12

Twitter · Mar 13, 2024, 3:51 PM

god

thats something hot

@autumn briar make sebring chat

[fierce grove]

Mmmmmmmmm

[tight quiver]

hottest m4

[eternal ravine]

I was gonna do it in a few hours unless Stimo gets to it first

[tight quiver]

do it

[eternal ravine]

🧎‍♂️

[tight quiver]

hurry up

🛐

[fierce grove]

That car is sex

That is all

[clear hound]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-smug-mode-jeremy-clarkson-top-gear-clarkson-gif-2297505076468265763

[foggy fulcrum]

hell yeah

[fierce grove]

https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1767959245494849762 Bob

Bob Pockrass (@bobpockrass) on X

Former Formula 1 driver Daniil Kvyat will drive the SS-Green Light Racing No. 07 Xfinity car at COTA. @NASCARONFOX

Twitter · Mar 13, 2024, 5:01 PM

[autumn briar]

Never heard of that team

[fierce grove]

I'm so down for Dany being there though

[foggy fulcrum]

they’re a real team for sure

Xfinity only and not particularly good