monaco-gp

[brisk harness]

audi was an obvious

exception

since they bought Saubr

sauber

[scarlet trench]

yo guys who are the drivers of Cadillac

I have got no idea

[latent relic]

It’s Valtereii and Checco (sorry if I misspelled it

[broken aspen]

Bro give me invite for that server pls🙏

[grand spade]

Hot take, those 4 would win championship if they were in mcl39 (why i didn't put there Verstappen? Cuz it wouldn't be a hot take) -/i put there lando cuz he won in mcl39/-

[tight urchin]

Russell would too

[wet sequoia]

Sainz is only just a top tier driver, he needs to much to go his way to win races sometimes

[grand spade]

I didn't put there everyone tho

[lavish ore]

ricciardo 💀

sainz is debatable

[sudden bough]

ricciardo and sainz prob wouldnt

i like sainz but

hes in this odd area where hes not as good as lando oscar charles george etc, but better than the midfield

similar to like alonso rn

[scarlet urchin]

Don't forget Russell

He definitely could

[covert warren]

I really wish they can repeat what Mercedes did in the 80s.
Put every driver in the same road car and have them race

Imagine Max Oscar Sainz and Leclerc in the same car

[sudden bough]

yeah russell is on the level of leclerc

[scarlet urchin]

Yeah

There's tiers

[sudden bough]

this season i think he was better, but overall leclerc is still a bit better

[scarlet urchin]

Max at the top

Then Charles and George

Then Lando and Oscar

[sudden bough]

max p1 charles or george p2/p3 lando p4 oscar p5

then p6 is probably either sainz or alonso

[covert warren]

Kinda hot take but i think Leclerc is the fastest over a single lap in qualy spec.
Max has unmatched precision but i think pure pace Leclerc has the edge

Overall Max tops

[sudden bough]

lec

leclerc is a quali menace

hes put the sf25 on the front row 5 times

[scarlet urchin]

Oh no i agree, max is just overall on average better at driving

[sudden bough]

and stuck it on pole

[covert warren]

Yeah Max is definetly one of the greatest of all time

[sudden bough]

russell is also a good qualifier

[covert warren]

True

[sudden bough]

but not as good as leclerc id say

leclerc is faster just a bit more inconsistent

russells main strength is being consistently good

[scarlet urchin]

I'd probably put the next tier as Albon, Hulk and Lewis

No particular order

Maybe Gasly

[covert warren]

Gasly is so underrated

[scarlet urchin]

Oh definitely

[covert warren]

Alpine isnt holding him back its throwing him in a jail cell and swallowing the key

[scarlet urchin]

If both Leclerc and Hamilton leave ferrari after this coming year then I want to see Gasly - Bearman

[covert warren]

Its so unfair, hes a great driver

[covert warren]

Lets see how Ferraris start to 2026 looks like

[scarlet urchin]

Normally i'd say don't go to ferrari but like

[sudden bough]

gasly is past his peak but his raw talent is still there

his peak was 2021-2023 imo

[scarlet urchin]

Alpine

The one worse option for your mental health

[sudden bough]

yeah albon woke tf up this year

[scarlet urchin]

Honestly i'd say last year

Canada

[sudden bough]

where would hadjar be

[scarlet urchin]

Perfection

[covert warren]

We all joked that it would destroy Hamilton, what ended up happening was so much worse

[sudden bough]

my rookies ranking is hadjar bearman antonelli (gap) bortoleto lawson colapinto

[scarlet urchin]

Next tier below that, with Bearman, Ocon, Antonelli

[scarlet urchin]

Esteban another underrated driver

[sudden bough]

bearman and antonelli have the highest ceilings, hadjar had the cleanest season

[sudden bough]

overall yes

fs

this year hes underperformed

[covert warren]

Hope Hadjar doesn't get 2nd seated like the others

[scarlet urchin]

This is also where i'd put tsunoda but i get that might be controversial

[sudden bough]

but maybe ollie is just too good for the midfield and esteban is against a generational talent trust

[unborn mirage]

wheres my bortoleto glazers at

[sudden bough]

id put him a tier below

with bortoleto and lawson

[scarlet urchin]

Gabby needs a couple years but he will wake up eventually

[covert warren]

He has potential, he just has to channel it

He has Max to help him aswell

[sudden bough]

alonso is his manager

[scarlet urchin]

Let's just give him his own tier then

[unborn mirage]

the three bandidos

[scarlet urchin]

Split the difference

[sudden bough]

speaking of alonso, a lot hinges on 2026 for him

[scarlet urchin]

Because he's somewhere between Ocon and Lawson

[covert warren]

He got two goats on his speed dial and F1 fans behind his back and a good talent. Just hasn't been able to use it in that car

[sudden bough]

who goes to aston if alonso retires

[scarlet urchin]

2 options i see

[scarlet urchin]

3 actually

[covert warren]

Didnt he say that if 2026 goes badly he wont want to continue

[sudden bough]

hulkenberg is a midfield veteran so it makes sense he can take the sauber to insane heights

[scarlet urchin]

Leclerc, Tsunoda, Crawford

[sudden bough]

he has all the past experience backing him up

so when the car has actual pace

he can use it

[covert warren]

Has he ever had a podium fighting car? Dont think he has

[sudden bough]

he has

force india 2014 to 2016

[covert warren]

Oh yeah right

[sudden bough]

sergio perez bagged 4 podiums

streets WILL remember pre-2023 sergio perez

[covert warren]

Other than that he has been in relatively bad cars his whole career

So Nico has experience with tractors

[sudden bough]

goat of the midfield

https://tenor.com/view/verstappen-formula1-f1-sbin-spin-gif-20672889

[covert warren]

Everyone thought it was him that was the problem, not the car.

[sudden bough]

he fell off and the car got worse at the same time

it was like between a 50/50 or a 25/75

[covert warren]

That upgrade in, what was it, 23 imola?
That messed the car up, and Perez complained, but the team didnt think anything of it cause max kept winning

[scarlet urchin]

Charles has an exit clause in his ferrari contract depending on how well the start of 2026 goes
Yuki's good with the honda engine, when it's not in a pierre waché oversteer machine
Jak's AMR reserve driver, just makes sense

[sudden bough]

23 imola didnt even exist

that was when imola got flooded

[covert warren]

Paraphrased, but thats almost a direct quote from someone at red bull

[scarlet urchin]

Yeah, Emilia-Romagna flooded didn't it

[unborn mirage]

everyone on the grid knows the car is fucked, how can you not understand

[covert warren]

What race was it then

[sudden bough]

uhhh

spain??

[scarlet urchin]

Albon says it best in an interview

[sudden bough]

idk

[covert warren]

Maybe

[sudden bough]

in 2019 2020 id blame the 2nd driver issues more on the driver

post 2023 its half half

lawson wasnt given a fair shot, tsunoda and lawson are both mid asf

[scarlet urchin]

I mean the car was definitely at least a major factor

[sudden bough]

and perez was in his falloff era

[covert warren]

My theory is that Max is such a great driver that the Redbull seems fine but is really the worst car concieved by man, but he makes it work

[sudden bough]

the

gasly and albon did rlly well compared to lawson and tsunosa

luckily they both escaped redbull and were able to show their talent elsewhere

although idk if alpine is lucky lol

[scarlet urchin]

The way i see it, Pierre Wache just uses the simulator to make the fastest thing possible. Since max verstappen likes a ridiculous amount of oversteer, he can control it, but nobody else can

So when it comes time to upgrade you follow max's lead, because he's doing better

So the car keeps getting harder and harder to control if you're the 2nd driver

And if you're the 2nd driver you have a choice

Run the wings really high downforce to get control back but kill your straight line speed and end up like 14th

Or

https://tenor.com/view/tsunoda-crash-at-imola-gif-9913627337553755288

Those are the options you get

[sudden bough]

this is why you should move to ferrari instead!1!1!1

instead of 1 driver having a rocket and the other suffering, both have a unstable tractor

[scarlet urchin]

uguaglianza, sì sì, molto buono

[sudden bough]

the one odd thing about ferrari

whenever it starts raining

they implode

leclerc was 14th in silverstone

14TH IN A FERRARI 😭

and lewis in p4 was getting brutally gapped by a kick sauber

another example is vegas quali, lewis was literally p20

leclerc was p9

[sudden bough]

his engine literally turned off when he spun in q2, he had to restart it

u cant make ts up

[scarlet urchin]

Went to look up the hungary hard tyre incident

Ai overview i didn't ask for

[scarlet urchin]

Does he know

[sudden bough]

canada 2024

[scarlet urchin]

Ooof

[sudden bough]

leclerc was put out on slicks

on a wet track

[scarlet urchin]

So glad i've escaped the maranello hellhole

[sudden bough]

double ferrari dnf

[scarlet urchin]

Williams is so much better for my heart

Shame my 2nd favourite is Ollie bearman

My relapse is inevitable

😔

Someone book me a therapist for when Carlos retires

[sudden bough]

tgr haas

[prisma pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/haas-tgr-toyota-formula-1-formula-gif-18042355316280836970

[main hearth]

Guys I'm going pro

[scarlet urchin]

Wow

[left whale]

so F1 when

Zzzzz

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[tight urchin]

Yeah but u put Sainz and ricciardo over him in the first place 💀 they’re both top drivers for sure but Russell/Leclerc have that edge to them

[grand spade]

But it's still my opinion

[viral cape]

https://media.giphy.com/media/pV8Yhvdi5UcNZ9uUj6/giphy.gif

[carmine dove]

Speaking of the devil

Unexpected go weeyums over on Laimu's stream

[stray axle]

i was thinking of something funny to say but i have nothing funny to say therefore i will not say something funny which in return means i will say something that isn't funny

[carmine dove]

must be the water

[rare fossil]

thoughts ?

or thoughts about this

[carmine dove]

mid

(design wise)

[rare fossil]

fair enough

[zinc rock]

Holy fucking polar bear😭😭

[rare fossil]

yeah ai was not wanting to deal with my ass

[zinc rock]

oh its ai

trash

[rare fossil]

your trash

[dreamy crescent]

isn't ai banned in this server or am I thinking of a different server?

[rapid horizon]

yes

[eager grove]

Hey , i am brand new to F1 and wanted to get ready for the new season in march , i ask Ai what it recomeneded i do until march and i was wondering if i coukd get a second opinion here?

[tame timber]

Maybe rewatch some previous seasons

I did that when I first started watching

[eager grove]

i mean , can i send the guide Gemini sent me?

[tame timber]

Nah it's fine, the F1 channel has the highlights to some recent older seasons

You can watch those races

[eager grove]

well i got sent a video to watch and then AI recomeneded a show called drive to survive?

[tame timber]

I mean you can watch drive to survive but some people don't think it's good to watch it

[eager grove]

well thats the thing everyone says different things? idk what. to watch. what not to watch as its outdated etc etc

[tame timber]

The easiest thing to watch is past highlights

Go to the F1 channel and check all their playlists

They got recent seasons highlights

And even highlights of old races

And also history of F1 as well

[eager grove]

wellim about 1 hour into this video which is great and i liie history so its interesting but idk if it will help me watch the 2026 season and understand whats going on and enjoy it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-oVmlwC_IQ

[tame timber]

There are some vids on the F1 channel as well but if you wanna enjoy the 2026 season watch the other seasons first

I think the highlights go as far back as the 2018 season

Or 2017

Better to actually watch the races to understand how it works

[eager grove]

yeah i watched the videos on the rules, when you say watch the highlight do you mesn like watch the 2025 races but only the best bits

[tame timber]

Start with the 2017 season

There's highlight videos for every race

It just shows the race but cut down

[eager grove]

why 2017 ?

[tame timber]

Because you can watch from 2017 all the way to 2025

2017 is the earliest season they have highlights for

And qualifying as well

[tawny glade]

hi guys

[eager grove]

thats gonna be a looooot of watching tho? i mean all i know in terms of rules is pracitce 3 rimes qualifying knockout to make the starting grid and then race to get points in top positions and i know the flags roughly

[tame timber]

Well if you don't want to watch that much just do the 2025 season

I only suggest that cuz that's what I did

I rewatched highlights

[eager grove]

you watched all of 2017-2025?

[eager grove]

isnt it confusing when the video cuts to something like 30 minitues ahed and doesnt show what happened?

[tame timber]

I started watching F1 in 2021

So I watched from 2017 to 2021

And then watched everything else since then

[eager grove]

ah i see, i think i have joined at a bad time cause the "season" doesnt start up until march?

[tame timber]

Which gives you the time to catch up

[eager grove]

that is true, so each race is around 2 hours long so are the highlights around 20. mins per race?

[tame timber]

No, like 5-10

[eager grove]

wait really 5 to 10 minitues ?

[somber copper]

some have extended highlights that are 20m long but most are only 5-10

[tame timber]

Yeah

[somber copper]

usually around 8

[tame timber]

I enjoyed watching the previous seasons ngl

[eager grove]

wow that is perfect for me, short and easy to digest

[somber copper]

some races like qatar had no highlights to show

or monaco

[eager grove]

so in a "season " there are 24 races right?

[tame timber]

Huh when

[tame timber]

No, before there weren't

There used to be less

[somber copper]

i meant that the race was just boring

[tame timber]

Yeah true, nothing went on

[somber copper]

and the highlights showed pretty much everything that happened

[somber copper]

24 races and 6 sprints which are short races

[eager grove]

so 24 times 10 is roughly 4 hours of highlights a season?

[somber copper]

yeah pretty much

you also have the quali highlights

monaco and baku had amazing qualis

[eager grove]

and im being recomended to watch from 2017 to 2025 plus qualifying ? will this take ages

[tame timber]

It's your choice how far you wanna go back

I only did it cuz I had the time

[eager grove]

i see , and you had less to watch seems as i have 4 extra years worth to watch?

[tame timber]

Yeah

But it doesn't take that long

Eventually you'll catch up

[eager grove]

i see there is something called a season review? is that better than the highlights

[tame timber]

It's whatever tbh

[eager grove]

i hope i dont sound like a child saying this but i want to see the cool races rather than the podcast where they talk about rivalries

[tame timber]

Then watch the highlights

[eager grove]

wait so if the highlightd are only like 10 mins does that mean the rest of the race is boring?

[tame timber]

Why would they make the whole race free to watch

😭

[eager grove]

? so the highlights are free but you gotta pay for the whole race? its not that thr whole race is bad its just the highligthts are free and the race isnt?

[tame timber]

Yeah basically

[sudden bough]

isnt this normal for sports

you watch the premier league highlights of man united vs aston villa for free on youtube

but have to pay to watch it on espn

[eager grove]

im not normally a sports fan , i dont like football or basketball etc so this is new to me , my bad😅

[somber copper]

yeah, full race replays are paid access through f1tv

the basic tier allows you access to the archive but to watch live sessions you need the higher tiers

[eager grove]

i think im gonna just watch the 2025 season highlights and then maybe watch some videos on f1 stuff like tyres etc

[somber copper]

they have all sessions until 2017, and then race replays to 1980 i think

[eager grove]

idk if i wanna sit through all of 2017 to 2025 i tihk 24 races will be enough

[somber copper]

yeah, its illegal

.streams

[jade mural]

It's not allowed to ask for an illegal stream nor to direct someone to an illegal stream. We are a partnered server, so piracy has no place in this server. This includes discussing how to bypass geoblocks or paywalls.

[eager grove]

ah ok sorry, how much is the membership

[somber copper]

depends on your country

i pay like 2,50 or something like that for basic

usd monthly

[eager grove]

whats it called ? let me check for uk

[somber copper]

f1tv

[eager grove]

is it a. tier thing or is it just one plan

[somber copper]

in my country argentina it has 3 tiers

[eager grove]

oh, in uk its just 3 pound a month or 20 for the year

[eager grove]

I mean is it 2 races per month then roughly ?

[somber copper]

pretty much yeah

[eager grove]

So 20 pound a year isn’t that bad of a deal

[somber copper]

there are some times where there are 3 or 2 in a row

[eager grove]

In a row ? Like every week?

[somber copper]

and there is the summer break thats 4 weeks long in august

[somber copper]

yeah

on average it ends up 2 races a month but its not consistent

[eager grove]

I see , but for now seems as I just want to get a rough idea of what’s going on, what team to watch , how things work etc I don’t need to spend any money ?

[errant shadow]

"I can't it's broken, IT'S BROKEN!"

https://tenor.com/view/its-broken-broken-lando-norris-f1-spa-gif-15242537

[fast fable]

No Lewis and Max for Secret Santa '25.

[sudden bough]

why

[fast fable]

No idea. They never told me.

[dense dock]

why was the haas keeping up with the redbull 😭

[worn pendant]

Drs

[uncut fiber]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/p/DSiA7k4ji2N/?igsh=

[topaz igloo]

Will the preseason testing be broadcast somewhere?

[gloomy wharf]

F1TV should broadcast sessions two and three.

[rocky sail]

pretty sure the sessions are broadcasted the same as practice, quali, etc

atleast that's what we have in aus

[blissful obsidian]

What do people do with their weekends without F1? It's been years and I still don't have a clue

[gloomy wharf]

My life goes on.

I just tune into this chat during a GP when I am able to.

[wet sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/door-away-you-go-road-gif-22000171

[worn pendant]

Touch grass/watch other series

[atomic bridge]

👕
👖
🎿👟

[versed steeple]

Study

[tepid creek]

what’s grass

[lost rose]

Lewis already not looking forward to 2026 thinking about ending it before the season even started

[mossy latch]

https://tenor.com/view/pingu-angry-mad-arms-crossed-crossed-arms-gif-20817151

[errant lintel]

pov: u buy a Formula 1.5 advent calendar

[flint yew]

Hoiiii

[waxen siren]

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/its-not-only-about-f1-verstappen-reflects-on-mercedes-talks-and-the-factors.285cHXwBrxPqs7bB7ChmQt

[candid owl]

Go watch other motorsport events in person👍

[random tangle]

Because it felt like it

[teal meteor]

The SF25 is basically a beautiful red tractor that Ferrari convinced Lewis Hamilton was a championship contender. By the end of this 2025 season, it's clear the car has the same old Ferrari DNA: fast in qualifying when the tires are fresh, but it eats rubber faster than a hungry toddler in a Lego store during the actual race.

Lewis Hamilton walking into Maranello thinking he was getting his fairytale ending only to find out the SF-25 has the reliability of a microwave from the 70s has been the comedy highlight of 2025. It’s basically been a battle between the greatest of all time and a car that seems to be actively allergic to podiums.

Hamilton spent years in a Mercedes system that was clinical and precise. Switching to Ferrari and dealing with the SF-25 is like going from a NASA control room to a group of guys arguing over a map in a dark alley. He’s still got the elite race craft, but the car’s obsession with eating its own tires meant he spent most of the season watching the McLarens and Red Bulls disappear into the distance while he tried to figure out why his steering wheel was vibrating.

Hamilton vs the SF-25 wasn't a partnership; it was a hostage situation. He brought the talent, Ferrari brought the vibes, and the car brought the disappointment. He’s probably spent the last few months checking if his Mercedes contract had a "just kidding" clause.

[marble surge]

Awesome

[marble surge]

Whatever happens max. I wish you luck.

[somber copper]

judging by how many times lewis missed out in q3 that shitbox wasnt even good for qualifying

[unborn mirage]

red bull is extra super cooked, spending so much time on upgrades in 2025 only to now find theire 2026 engine illegal

[dark moon]

my prediction for the next season is that it will be a mercedes ferrari season bcs they did stopped working on the 25 cars mid season and focussed on the 26 cars a lot

[ripe grail]

uk is sky sports, f1tv but i thunk only access. if youre in the us its appletv noww

[eager grove]

Oh no do I have to sign up for sky sports , it’s not my tv plan so that’s not ideal

[ripe grail]

then there is bein sports

n/a wht channel

[ripe grail]

yeah i think, for sky sports in the uk i think you need a contract/membership of skysports f1 to watch it

i think tho

fogot the price

[rustic pagoda]

676767676767

[halcyon spire]

😭

[sour flint]

Not 69 sadly

[rustic pagoda]

😭

[sour flint]

That’s pretty disappointing innit?

[rustic pagoda]

Nah

Best number 🙏

[sour flint]

Nah

MV69

69 podiums

Number 69

Tuff

[rustic pagoda]

You seen how he put 1 in his 3 😭

That was peak

[sour flint]

I am serhio peez

I am bhitish drivah for cadillhac f1 team for 2026

Phetty gheat my buddies isn’t it

[rustic pagoda]

😭

[sour flint]

Du you hink I have a goood british accent my dudes

[turbid elk]

off season hype squad

we all dead chat\

[gray sand]

the formula 1 chat is talking about merc power units
the general chat is having a split personality schizo episode
this chat is more dead than the rat I caught

[sudden bough]

every team except haas got a podium vro

[rustic pagoda]

😭

[maiden aurora]

Bro I just realised how stupid i was to not by aus gp tickets

its the first race of new regs and 2 new teams

🤦‍♂️

first race of stroll domination

🤦‍♂️

[thin wing]

Guys i am starting a new f1 based channel

First video probably on tomorrow

[grave parcel]

real

[restive abyss]

i hope its quality content

[worn pendant]

What's the name

[mortal spear]

Random F1 trivia question that I don’t know the answer to

What’s the longest time a pole sitter has waited on the grid for last place to line up?

[still jolt]

there isn’t a record for the longest time a polesitter waited on the grid for the last car because F1 rules prevent that situation from being an uncontrolled delay.

[broken snow]

Hello boys I need ur help, I am making video on Mercedes engine Controversy & I will be talking about compression ratio
So according to you should I explain the whole thing or just say that It compresses air fuel to maximize the output ( speed )

[wet sequoia]

We have plenty of girls in the server

[timid spire]

What made you say that

[maiden aurora]

Do the whole thing

[timid spire]

You from Rajasthan?

[runic karma]

Where

[wet sequoia]

Check above my comments

[wet sequoia]

Here, around, being normal F1 fans

[stiff matrix]

67

[wet sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-poop-monkey-throw-mad-gif-17790027

[sudden bough]

🔥

[woven falcon]

1 Russell win in each half

[timid spire]

Are you one?

[turbid linden]

I mean i’d say las vegas when max took ages in p2 behind lando because that would have held P19 back (i think it was Yuki that started from the pitlane cuz of power unit change,
There might be longer ones but i started watching in 2023 but never rlly liked then i did like it around Miami or something

[torpid edge]

https://www.threads.com/@max.verstappen_fan.taiwan/post/DSmllydE0ih?xmt=AQF0pi4MSC6jNFB1zb0cD1uXGrt_6wa0SOjTGwHESV325NyhnloLownKREnFEl-nyMk-DBwn&slof=1

[wet sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-bunny-no-nope-nou-gif-13480425249407915803

[river silo]

"I have it, i have printed it out"

[vestal patrol]

Secret Santa this year's a little safe, everyone's giving everyone paddle accessories

[brittle ridge]

Cus there just are.

Agh.
They have to change the role number for Max here next year😭

[brittle ridge]

I think he might just pivot and stick to modelling atp.

[woven grove]

Chair legleg

[pearl jetty]

Next year is our year

[old gust]

~Ferrari

[tacit shell]

Last Christmas I gave you my heart but the very next day you gave it away

[lost rose]

So Cadillac have hired Xavier Marcos to be their chief race engineer 😭 😭

[boreal ferry]

guys, i have a theory. F1 doesn't exist. Instead, it's a money laundering scheme for a Padel League.

what do we think?

[sweet gull]

I’m Liam Lawson

[fallen mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/liam-lawson-ll30-liam-lawson-meme-ll30-meme-liam-red-bull-gif-15576759939929334680

[stone relic]

The cane…old on old crime

[keen skiff]

guess i can send these here

https://youtu.be/q2OaQzN6DaU?si=OYXNW3pvzxap5j7h

tldr: mercedes and redbull found a 'loophole' in the regulations, talks of a potential protest at melborne are circling

likely from ferrari

[granite musk]

Ferrari will still finish 2nd in the constructors to alpine

[snow swan]

bruvv u indian!!??

[keen skiff]

a horrifying thought

[granite musk]

1.4 billion people are

[granite musk]

who knows it can be possible

[keen skiff]

I think the FIA will do what they did with the DAS system in 2020; they well let Mercedes and Redbull run these engines next season, but after that, theyll update the rules

and shut the door on it

[granite musk]

I think thats the safest bet

[keen skiff]

Looks like we're looking at
hopefully; Mercedes vs Redbull vs McLaren

[cyan saffron]

It's actually the only valid one because the FIA also declared those when Mercedes approached them for legal.

[keen skiff]

have they looked at every power unit or still reviewing

[winter scarab]

nah its mercedes vs aston vs mclaren

[vestal patrol]

I want one of these

[snow swan]

bruh

[compact bronze]

they uploaded secret santa?

[vestal patrol]

Yes

[gloomy wharf]

“F2 engine, F2! ARGH!”
*retires from overheating on lap 33
(Not wishing for or predicting DNFs)

[gloomy wharf]

Whatever a Padel league is. Either way, I’d be greatly disappointed.

[finite beacon]

Merc 2026 WCC with George WDC

[tight urchin]

That would be good to see

[finite beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/ferrari-leclerc-pain-ferrari-pain-formula1-gif-26291751

[random tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/nico-hulkenberg-nh27-nico-hulkenberg-meme-nh27-meme-nico-hulkenberg-fire-gif-9277938977102398593

[fast fable]

[timid spire]

This car must be yuki's

[timid spire]

Is that a Rhetorical question

[fallen mortar]

Fr

[timid spire]

Normal ahh conditions for Ferrari

[radiant bluff]

learnt just now that max will have number 3 on his car

[rare trout]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-kingpin-clicking-pen-clicking-pen-spider-verse-into-the-spider-verse-gif-5180708998338482135

3 months

3 months

3 months

[keen skiff]

McLaren allocating their resources to 2026, they could still be in that fight

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oKcBLFFxayk&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

They really need to bring in F1's tech guys to explain on the weekend how these new regs work before we go racing

[sudden bough]

newey give us something glorious one more time

but id like williams to be better than aston

[unkempt dust]

https://x.com/screwderiaf1/status/2003821564383695345?s=46&t=XVf-2qzBxEoyrAFTEvnsyg

Mahir 🇹🇷🇬🇧 (@ScrewderiaF1)

"Stupid kids believing in Santa"

Me a grown ass adult who still believes in Ferrari:

X · Dec 24, 2025, 1:34 PM

[snow swan]

[heavy quarry]

[hardy trench]

if what they say is true about the mercedes ICE then they'll win both championships probably

[radiant bluff]

what do they say?

[somber copper]

they found a loophole that could supposedly give them up to 3 tenths a lap to other engines

[quaint patrol]

any news today guys?

im starving

[hardy trench]

and 15 BHP

^^

[simple ravine]

was doohan better than Colapinto???

[left fjord]

No

[dawn rune]

Yo guys

[velvet vigil]

Im crying rn

[radiant acorn]

colapinto>doohan when colapinto was at williams

[errant lintel]

colapinto is so much better

[silk cave]

hilooooo

[rapid horizon]

i feel like doohan could've done slightly better than what he did knowing if he was staying or not

[lavish ore]

impossible to tell from how few races he did

but we do know colapinto was ok in pace he was just inconsistent and in the worst car on the grid

[sudden bough]

we will miss the alonso trains

[zinc rock]

hulkenberg so ass😭😭🥀

[grand spade]

My fingers are dead

[thorny warren]

Finally got the White livery after 99+ crashes

Was it worth to drive against 20+ dirty drivers

[olive hamlet]

Wazzzaaaa

[dense breach]

fire

[fringe cape]

dear santa for christmas i want a ferrari 2026 wcc and leclerc wdc

[dense breach]

oooo thats a fantastic wish for christmas

[gritty sinew]

Oh my.....

[keen skiff]

Saw this and now wishing Audi did this

[idle raven]

Needs more grey tbh. I’m a fan of the grey, black, red color scheme

[idle raven]

nuh uh he’s in first place and leclerc in second

[keen skiff]

As long as we get red wings and
halo we gucci

[stiff bough]

why sayin we me

u is not me bruh

keep my name out yo mouth bruh

[wet sequoia]

Gucci gucci go!

Gucci top ban message, I miss the shit that got wrote in them

You and Terra were never shy about being creative/honest about them

[fringe cape]

the only carol im singing:

this christmas i gave ferrari my heart
before it even came, they dnfed it away
so next year to save me from tears im giving it to mclaren

[cunning jackal]

[stiff bough]

makes it 10x more embarrassing for them when their server friends show them the ss and its the most specific reasons listed with 0 sugarcoating

[brisk harness]

So McLaren is 2026 champion again

[marble surge]

Merry Christmas everyone

[wet sequoia]

Assuming they have friends

[dawn willow]

George Russell and max verstappen title fight

[dense breach]

noooo dont fall to the dark side. stay with us. we shall stay strong. we will become victorious (with all the cope in the world)

[frank grove]

Happy cristmans

Im bad inglish

[idle ocean]

Hi

Hi

[dense breach]

merry easter brochacho hope you get plenty of candy corns mr brotato chip

[frank grove]

What? Now speak properly because I'm using a translator. I'm from Argentina.

[dense breach]

im just messing around. sorry.

[frank grove]

Don't worry, bro

[somber copper]

trust in alpine

[somber copper]

0 laps with wets lmao

[zinc rock]

stroll did a formation lap with wets in australia

[woven rapids]

so he pitted at the end of the formation lap for inters?

maybe formation laps don't count here

only 70 laps with C6 💀

[sullen tartan]

https://youtu.be/ChGFps8ppEk?si=T8JI1mgF-zBDxhQk

hopefully Ferrari is not the same...

in the 2026

[gloomy wharf]

Merry Christmas, everyone. Lord bless y’all. I really hope you enjoy it as best you can. Happy new year.

[gloomy wharf]

2027 is Ferrari’s year.

[sour yew]

MY MOM AND STEPDAD GOT THAT FOR ME I WAS HYPEREE

[radiant bluff]

RB Honda might have found extra 6-tenths, but they wont say it out loud

[radiant bluff]

looks awesome man, show us the unpacked stuff

[supple bolt]

Unfortunately, this is not my gift and I won't be there when they unpack it

[radiant bluff]

ah shit

[south dragon]

what is this

[loud otter]

.

[torpid ore]

K chamo

[frank grove]

Hablas español?

[round grove]

Marry Christmas to all of you guys enjoy your family and friends and celebrate as much as you can with your family and friends and thank everyone for the presents you guys have got and respect them 🤶 🌲 🫡

[fiery silo]

merri christmas

[radiant scarab]

merri berri

[fiery silo]

what gifts did u get?

did anyone get paddock club
pass?

[bold sage]

hmm

[finite hawk]

Merry Christmas everyone

[granite musk]

Merry Christmas

[silent wagon]

Merry Christmas

[frozen coral]

W pull 🤑

[south heron]

daaaaaamn son

you're only missing 3 teams from having the full grid

noice

[steady furnace]

Still missing the best team

[signal lark]

Damnnn thats crazy

[frozen coral]

I have them already for my birthday

So I have the full grid

[frozen coral]

I’m hoping my dad got me that one

[south heron]

ah neat

[frozen coral]

I’m gonna see if I can do that thing with the grid places if you know what I mean

[south heron]

I'm sure you can!

[frozen coral]

Yeahhhh

[lilac nova]

Car reveals soon huh

[sudden bough]

well

soonest is jan 15th

for red bull and vcarb

[lilac nova]

another Ferrari x HP disasterclass

[lilac nova]

[snow swan]

hi

[errant lintel]

Merry Christmas

[spare shoal]

Merry Christmas y'all

[vital oriole]

Merry Christmas

[mystic mulch]

Happy Christmas

[patent crystal]

Absolute jolly time

don’t know why he is American though

[hardy trench]

probably not

[gloomy wharf]

2067

I got F1 2012. The best season of the V8 era.

[snow swan]

https://x.com/i/status/2003880854121238951

Autosport (@autosport)

Max Verstappen knows that talent isn't enough...

X · Dec 24, 2025, 5:30 PM

[outer storm]

hi

[wind owl]

merry Christmas!

[next pumice]

Merry Christmass y'all!

[idle raven]

PEAK GIFT

I got wec cars for crimmuh (that I asked for)

peugeot 9x8 and ferrari 499p

[idle raven]

me but williams

[barren wave]

It be christmuh

🎄

[fringe cape]

all the elves in the north pole cannot fix ferraris car

santa sprinkled some magic dust into the car but all it did was turn into water

[dense breach]

hear me out. Ferrari asks for a favor from porsche, and then they have the best car in all of f1, and then ferrari is like "oh jeez porsche is so much better than us" and then porsche takes ferraris place :3

trust

itll happen

[frank cloud]

Merry Christmas 🎄 🥉

[cloud isle]

I got tickets for the Belgian gp for Christmas 🥹🥳

[viral willow]

merry Christmas

[keen skiff]

Ok when I heard him say that I was curious if he meant the simulator in the factory, but goddamn his sim rig at home is so good he'll test a driving idea right at home? That's crazy

And pretty cool

[somber copper]

makes sense that he would have the best possible sim at home

[keen skiff]

Dudes really a free man

Does the same thing at work and at home

And enjoys it

[glass geyser]

cheat dad

[strange elk]

verstappen 4th 💔

[lusty nova]

💔 for leclerc 🙁😢

[chrome hemlock]

Wdym mean by that

[pallid mango]

either he is having a stroke or he is having a stroke

[glass geyser]

dead chat
cheat dad

[chrome hemlock]

Fairrr

[grand spade]

Remember how lando said abt Verstappen "its not skill, just luck"? Well i think Leclerc is literally now what lando said abt max, If he had normal luck he would be wdc

[thorny warren]

It’s gonna be Merc vs Redbull obviously

[winter scarab]

nah, audi and cadillac title fight

[radiant scarab]

Caudillac

[thorny warren]

I will pray that Audi and Aston fight for the title ..

Wanna see hulk in action

[feral herald]

aston might cook

[snow swan]

https://x.com/i/status/2004213529734533605

Holiness (@F1BigData)

Max Verstappen taking a F1 car for a walk in the snow

X · Dec 25, 2025, 3:31 PM

If not for Kimi Antonelli...

This man would have #5

[lavish ore]

if not for kimi

if not for himself

if not for lando

if not for oscar

if not for himself again

if not for mclaren

too many ifs that really don't matter at all

what's done is done

[pure thicket]

what aare you on bro

i i i i be poppin bottles

sparkles and champagne

vip no text me young mama looking smexy

[torpid edge]

https://x.com/F1GuyDan/status/2004545482459140176

Daniel Valente 🏎️ (@F1GuyDan)

🚨 It's been officially 600 days since the last time Max Verstappen & Charles Leclerc shared a front row start

X · Dec 26, 2025, 1:31 PM

[craggy zenith]

Alternatively he could've not hit Russell in Spain and not lost points

but that would require blaming Verstappen for that, and some people just can't do that

[prime hare]

Exactly bro

[analog river]

Lmao

[tight urchin]

Do u fans actually listen to what max himself does and says 💀

[waxen wagon]

if my mom had balls...

he dropped another banger

either you're pregnant or you're not

[shadow dock]

Ferrari fall off was big

Leclerc has the skills to challenge Max.... but he's in a Shi*box

[south heron]

a shitbox and a shitbox of a team too

[scarlet urchin]

I mean you know what they say if if if

If my mum had balls she would be my dad

[sudden bough]

fighting with Aston and Williams next year

I think Aston will almost always have the faster car next year, but stroll will bring them down in terms of contructors fight

[south heron]

yeah

[topaz igloo]

Wait.. is the rumor about GP true???

[sonic kiln]

bortolelo

[sonic kiln]

what rumors

I haven't seen anything about it

[topaz igloo]

https://x.com/scuderiafemboy/status/2004575927884513477?s=46

nini (@SCUDERIAFEMBOY)

according to the race, talks have taken place between GP and aston martin about a senior position.

X · Dec 26, 2025, 3:31 PM

[lime onyx]

No chance in hell he leaves without max

[granite musk]

Lawrence cant buy red bull, so hes buying the members

[snow swan]

I do understand that, but it's such a truthful case for this case lmfao getting fucked over by the same dude 3 times

[gleaming shore]

Winterslop is going hard

[plain wharf]

Did you know Kimi raikonnen almost bankrupted Lotus?

[gleaming shore]

50k euros per point

https://tenor.com/view/gif-emoji-emoji-meme-emoji-memes-spin-gif-3355519892839036421

[plain wharf]

Living the dream

[tight urchin]

Not really, McLaren team orders would’ve denied max the wdc win anyway

[inner saddle]

So true!

[jaunty fossil]

.av

[jade mural]

Avatar for .e_knight

Link as

png | jpg | webp

You can now change Carl-bot's profile picture and banner with premium!!

[pulsar mist]

[dusky willow]

Hello everyone

[zenith zealot]

'its always if if if, if my mum had balls, she would be my dad'

[flint yew]

so peeps whats the haps these days that I was gone

max still didnt join Mercedes did he?

goddamn it TOTO you have one job really

if even aston martin come above redbull then in all realitites we are screwed as hell

[sullen vapor]

Its because he dont smash his headphones anymore

[flint yew]

yeah welll come on dont we need him

w eneed papa more than mama these days

let red bull have russell

[sullen vapor]

lol

Ngl kimi and max would make a great duo

[flint yew]

Thats what I have been saying a long long time

we need the dad son duo on the track

so when theres parc femme we can see a great camaraderie when they both finish on the podium

[sullen vapor]

Doesnt redbull and mercedes have a really good engine for next season?

[flint yew]

ACTUALLY THATS HIGHLY DEBATABLE BUT LETS HOLD ONTO IT UNTIL AUSTRALIA.... HOLD ON WHENS AUSTRALIA

[worn pendant]

Australia is anytime

[spare glacier]

people saying happy holidays pisses me off so much

its christmas

such an american commerical phrase

[shrewd flax]

wdym, shouldnt we just say happy christmas??? huhhh

or merry christmas, idk

[strange crag]

It’s rumored that both teams found a way to get a higher compression ratio (stupid terms more air) into their engines during race conditions versus what the rules intended.

If true, they could see gains over a lap of multiple tenths

[teal meteor]

That means either McLaren or max Verstappen will be champs this year

[strange crag]

Nah Williams will win it fr

(Copium) I like Williams but they aren’t ready

[teal meteor]

Carlos Heinz

[vocal hull]

Is the redbull and mercedes engine news true?

[vocal hull]

Mercedes might just not gibe the optimized version to contractors , which means redbull vs merc

[teal meteor]

Isn't that illegal

[short smelt]

pretty questionable main profile name for the user who used the /next command

[gloomy wharf]

What if Ferrari made more power and shaved more weight simply by designing the engine more aggressively?

COME ON, COPING. Do your thing.

[torpid edge]

https://x.com/TomP1Bellingham/status/2004909565167755675

Tom Bellingham (@TomP1Bellingham)

The top five at the end of Lap 1 Round 1 in Australia was the final championship standings

2025 really was the year where it was all over on Lap 1 😅

X · Dec 27, 2025, 1:37 PM

[scenic spruce]

Ive been playing f1 25 a lot more lately lol

[gloomy wharf]

Hamilton has gotta WIN come March. Will Smith can’t substitute.

[toxic oar]

in the car ham was in maybe even smith coulvde won

lol

[toxic oar]

ferrari fan copium:

😭

[keen skiff]

https://youtube.com/shorts/EoURzETT1H8?si=XGtWHXOWCZx_pF5g

[sonic forum]

It’s because not everyone celebrates Christmas

[gray widget]

hi

[rapid horizon]

and it is a holiday

[spare lodge]

im officially invested in Ferrari there goes my hopes and dreams

[woeful sandal]

Whoop whoop

[thorny warren]

[spare lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/lewis-hamilton-hamilton-useless-im-just-useless-useless-lewis-useless-gif-6051152865205938951

i really hope lewis has a better season hes beating himself up to much

he is only one place lower in the standings then lecerc with a new team its better than what he thinks

[thorny warren]

It’s hard to guess where Ferrari is rn I thought they might have a good chance next year and then I saw those two …

[spare lodge]

merc is going to have the best engine but i have this utter feeling ferrari might get it right they really have been pushing the 26 regs and the cars are more fit to lewis driving style

https://tenor.com/view/pera-algorand-algo-hopium-copium-gif-16765445473855345349

[thorny warren]

I hope so if it’s not he’d been driving this tractor for nothing

[spare lodge]

lewis will retire 2027

[thorny warren]

Idk if Ferrari and Aston are the only teams which sacrificed the 25 car bec of upcoming reg changes

[thorny warren]

Prob

[covert warren]

i think we're at 7:30 instead of 6 rn

[spare lodge]

yeah

[thorny warren]

My lord please only one time I wanna see a Ferrari double podium next year 🙏🏼

México 25 gave me hella hopes

[glass geyser]

let me guess

ferrari win in australia

and rest of the season is dogshit 👽

[dense jay]

Bluf mclaren it's entitely dog shit,all talk and fame,0 power,yeah legends but of the paste the present is broke lmao😭

Learn about cars, Ferrari on track makes history every year, mclaren makes the history of the last place,not to add that mclaren can't even build their own engines they just use AMG engines,their golden era was almost 40 years ago and that's due to their honda engines, their most iconic car uses a BMW s70 v12 6.1 liter engine and it's still one of the fastest natural aspirated engines used on a road car(thanks to BMW), Ferrari has allways been independent in f1 ,not to mention that Ferrari it's in F1 since 40s,Also being one of the biggest companies along Google and Microsoft, Ferrari it's a brand of rich history meanwhile mclaren has the history of borrowing engines from many other brands,all their Victoriei are related to Mercedes/honda engines,they can changed their logos and engines, Ferrari creates racing ADN, mclaren borrows it, it's not hate, it's reality,the real industry it's in Germany and Italy.

[tribal sphinx]

Who here loves max verstappen

?

Anyone?

I am a verstappen fan

[radiant scarab]

Kelly piquet loves max verstappen but she's not really here right now

[thorny warren]

Cough* ki ki ki Cough*

[languid kiln]

I love max verstappen

@tribal sphinx

[low pier]

Can someone send me the 2026 F1 calendar

[lost gust]

Umm look at F1 calendar

[somber copper]

alpine nearly set it on fire sacrificing it for the 26 regs

they gave up after like 6 races

[gloomy wharf]

There's some stuff you could learn about Formula One. McLaren is actually on fire right now. Ferrari has been struggling for seventeen years and hasn't won a single championship since 2008.

[timid spire]

Wrong question
It should be - why should anyone not love max?

[timid spire]

Congratulations for future depression

[tribal sphinx]

Y cough yep

[timid spire]

Si, hablo Espanol pero mas pequno

[scenic spruce]

Im interested in seeing how Aston will perform in 2026 now theyre powered by Honda

[winter scarab]

mclaren is a properly run team with top people and a great car, ferrari is a shitshow run by clowns with a shitbox

[timid spire]

There are only 2 - 1 man teams in F1, astorn and rb

[timid spire]

So yep it would be Exihillerating

[scenic spruce]

Im interested in seeing how Aston performs and seeing Cadi and Audi on the grid

[timid spire]

Will audi use the same engine as suaber or different?

[winter scarab]

new engine

[scenic spruce]

I think its their own

[timid spire]

Yo who am i supposed to believe

[scenic spruce]

Atleast theyre keeping Gabi and Nico as drivers

[timid spire]

Both are good drivers

[scenic spruce]

Yeah

[timid spire]

No hateto anyone

[scenic spruce]

And Cadillac has Perez and Bottas as drivers

Its good to see them back

[granite musk]

new engine

sauber used ferrari engines

[jagged stone]

Sos de argentina?

[tired axle]

audi is making their own new engine

[scenic spruce]

Yeah since theyre a works team

[dense jay]

Me

I love verstappen @tribal sphinx

[pearl fossil]

i have a question, if charles know ferrari is so shit why not leave it

[dense jay]

Proprely runing?mybe when they change the logos and the engines,a real brand like Ferrari creates racing ADN, mclaren borrows it,even their biggest icon and their fastest gas powered road car uses a BMW s70 engine,so tehnically Mercedes won the F1 championship not mclaren,also Senna won with honda, Ferrari it's in F1 since F1 was built so shut your mouth and take it home

[dense jay]

Shit? British car industry it's shit and it Falls appart just like a domino, jaguar-dead,land rover/range rover-more ofa an artificial Instagram luxury car that looks like a box and haven't even made a single reliable good car since decades, Bentley-vw/audi platforma,was something somewhen now it's clearly not the same, mclaren-can't even build a single engine,they rely on AMG/honda/Red Bull engines,rover-dead,mg-british on logo-cheap chinese shit now, Aston Martin -pure luxury and elegante,only one completley british but at F1 they're trashed out,and owned by Mercedes for a small procent,Rolls Royce-luxury king>bought by BMW,uses BMW V12 and it's runing perfect because of BMW, italian industry it perfectly dominates just like the german one,yours is shit,even french cars are better

[pearl fossil]

mclaren is a shitty non-shitty team only thing keeping it afloat is the car and drivers not the team principal

[pearl fossil]

Why arent the drivers leaving it

[dense jay]

😂 funny,nobody leaves Ferrari,this is not british car industry where everybody leaves and lemme tell you something, mclaren it's like a Jinga tower,If you take Mercedes,honda and BMW engines it instamtly falls

[winter scarab]

dont bother with the ferrari cult

they keep defending a shitty team without knowing

[scenic spruce]

I applied to work at the Australian gp lol

[spare glacier]

yeah then just say 'happy christmas to those who celebrate'

its taking the religion out of it

you wouldn't do that for eid or diwali (for example)

[sonic forum]

I ain’t typing allat

[dense jay]

Get some arguments If you wanna talk and also get a life @winter scarab ,hating on Ferrari won't fix the fact that UK sucks at racing and building cars, seriously even France build better cars and they never rely on other brands from other countries.Ferrari and Red Bull are the real legends here and you must admit that UK cars depend on german ones.

[sudden bough]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[somber copper]

where would he go?

[drifting wagon]

"if you take the engine out of the car it fails"

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[keen skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQNZIk56h9s&t=40s&pp=ygUFYWxkYXM%3D

[soft tendon]

Idk Redbull would probably give him a shot, same goes for any midfield team. Maybe AM as well

[vast citrus]

The best car for stroll

Lol

[somber copper]

he would be n2 at rb

and all other teams are quite far behind even ferrari

aston would be the only possibility

and while they could be a front running team, they could also be gp2 engine again

[keen skiff]

Speculation pinpoints to Aston Martin for 2027

As it's been said his people have been making talks with AM

[burnt pawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP0FbHj56vw

[hollow quiver]

😭

[rustic cave]

https://tenor.com/view/ferrari-moment-gif-25946263

[elder grail]

at 1:46 am

😭

[willow haven]

most reliable ferrari:

[vernal moon]

Replay time

[snow swan]

what airline has this

[vernal moon]

Qatar

[snow swan]

goated

[torpid edge]

Bearman is their rookie of the yearrrrrrrrrrrr

[winter scarab]

ill put albon instead of alonso

and leclerc is indeed too low

[azure lintel]

alonso

leclerc 7th is crazy

[still forge]

So the team principals think Chuck's 2025 was his worst year? He's never ranked that low since 2018 lmao

Plus, Ferrari and Redbull did not vote on this

[leaden cape]

Biased

It should either be hadjar or kimi

[torpid edge]

what biased

voted by all team bosses

[leaden cape]

Apparently not Ferrari nor RedBull

[plain wharf]

Kimi was great but Ollie did wonders in a haas

[worthy sleet]

Ollie and Hadjar are goated

[sudden bough]

leclerc 7th??????

[sudden bough]

where is albon

[sudden bough]

no keep alonso

but put albon like 7th

or 8th

behind him, ahead or below sainz

leclerc deserves at least 4th or 5th

4th seems fair

[still forge]

5th would be totally fair

It's like the actual standings

Too low to be on par with the top 4, too high to be from 6th and under

[sonic epoch]

Leclerc should be 3rd ngl

Piastri 4th because he bottled the championship

[sudden bough]

norris 3rd

leclerc 4th

piastri 5th

or piastri 4th leclerc 5th

[lost sphinx]

Leclerc has been quite overrated tbh

top5 at most

[sudden bough]

https://tenor.com/view/carlos-sainz-cs55-carlos-sainz-meme-cs55-meme-carlos-sainz-reaction-gif-16890293178476211995

he has been a bit overrated tbf

but not by much

[lost sphinx]

Considered better than norris who won wdc is quite odd

[sudden bough]

hes had a rough season overall, 5th is perfectly fair

[lost sphinx]

not like leclerc did magic with the car he didn't even beat russell he just was in front of antonelli who is a rookie? I think even hamilton was in front of antonelli at the end

[sudden bough]

5 front rows in the sf25, 7 podiums, and a pole

[lost sphinx]

we don't know the real pace of the Ferrari because hamilton sucks

Both leclerc & russell are overrated by it's teammate, specially leclerc because people still think hamilton is good when he's not anymore

I think 1 Verstappen 2 norris 3 piastri 4 russell 5 leclerc is fair this season

[sudden bough]

id put russell 2nd because he made basically no mistakes

finished every race

was very consistent

etc

[lost sphinx]

it's easy to do no mistakes when u are not battling anyone

[sudden bough]

norris and piastri were rlly good but they made many mistakes while having the best machinery

[lost sphinx]

norris and piastri were beating between them all the time

[sudden bough]

❔

[lost sphinx]

russell had literally no one to beat with, max was half races in front half races way behind

Ferrari was miles behind

Mclaren was miles ahead

[sudden bough]

now ur contradicting ur leclerc point 😭

[lost sphinx]

and his teammate folded half of the qualifying sessions

[sudden bough]

"we don't know the real pace of ferrari"

"ferrari was miles behind"

🔥

so tuff

[lost sphinx]

Ferrari as in Ferrari drivers

leclerc didn't finish ahead of russell mate

just look at the standings

he finished miles behind

and every race felt like that

I would understand putting russell above piastri if you have recency bias but norris?

how, he literally did 2 mistakes while actually fighting every race and having like way more pressure

[sudden bough]

yeah i dont put leclerc over norris

not for this season

i think bros js ranting atp

[tight urchin]

Russell > both McLaren drivers simple

[lost sphinx]

can't see how

[zinc rock]

norris is very close

hes levels clear of piastri

[sudden bough]

yeah hes not too far off

norris's raw race pace is better

its js consistency that he needs now

[zinc rock]

if im an f1 team principal and i can pick any driver in the sport heres who i would consider building around from best to worst:

1. lando norris
2. george russell
3. charles leclerc
4. ollie bearman
5. kimi antonelli
6. isack hadjar
7. max verstappen
8. oscar piastri
9. lewis hamilton
10. fernando alonso
11. alex albon
12. liam lawson
13. carlos sainz
14. nico hulkenberg
15. lance stroll
16. pierre gasly
17. esteban ocon
18. arvid lindblad
19. gabriel bortoleto
20. franco colapinto

[sudden bough]

now call me crazy

[lost sphinx]

this guy is in drugs

[tight urchin]

That is a spicy list mate

[sudden bough]

its meant to be future potential iirc

[lost sphinx]

Sainz 13

upper hamilton

💀

[sudden bough]

i dont think lewis has enough left to build upon now

hes entering washed

[zinc rock]

least consistent driver bar albon

[lost sphinx]

This guy would pick hamilton who just shown that he can't adapt to a team rather than sainz who always makes teams better

[zinc rock]

is sainz

[lost sphinx]

Sainz is literally team he went, team he improved

[sudden bough]

id put sainz 10th

lewis 11th or smth

[zinc rock]

I dont think you know sainz was outscored 70-19 the first half of the season and got beat

[lost sphinx]

why would you not take sainz over a washed hamilton

[sudden bough]

why is bortoleto so low jesus

[lost sphinx]

I don't think you know williams was 9th last season and this season scored 2 podiums (more than hamilton in fact)

[tight urchin]

George obviously has the pace but also has the ruthless consistency that Lando and piastri lack to different extents

[sudden bough]

ik bros bortoleto hatewatch but

[zinc rock]

When sainz joined mclaren they had norris as a rookie joining

[lost sphinx]

Lando literally won wdc thanks to being consistently good

[zinc rock]

When sainz joined ferrari the car got better

When sainz joined williams the car got better

It is not him

[tight urchin]

Then why gabi 19th

[zinc rock]

Because hes ass

[lost sphinx]

casually when teams go up, they take sainz

it's interesting

[zinc rock]

And everyone who knows me knows i think hes not good

[sudden bough]

oleo hates bortoleto for some reason

[lost sphinx]

maybe sainz is good for the development and good atmosphere?

[tight urchin]

I see

[zinc rock]

His racecraft is horrendous

[sudden bough]

i dont think hes very good but id put him 13th or 12th

considering he is a rookie

its good to build around rookies

unless they are nyck de vries

[zinc rock]

you can swap him and gasly ig

[lost sphinx]

I am not entering in putting 3 rookies before max Verstappen, but apart from that putting sainz 13th is just criminal

[zinc rock]

Gasly is no longer giving you anything as a #1 driver unfortunately

[sudden bough]

max is a really interesting case honestly

[zinc rock]

If you build around max your team is fucked

[lost sphinx]

specially why would you put hamilton with how much you have to buy

pay

this kid

You gotta be stupid if u take hamilton in 2025

[sudden bough]

hamilton to haas

[lost sphinx]

honestly

[zinc rock]

Immediate results and sponsors

[lost sphinx]

60 millions

[zinc rock]

Hamilton with confidence is still great

[lost sphinx]

hamilton costs 3 times more than sainz

and sainz has given better results for the last 5 years

[zinc rock]

Hes also 3 times the friver sainz is

[zinc rock]

No he hasnt

[sudden bough]

this is lewis hamilton rn

[lost sphinx]

Yes he has, don't you wanna see what hamilton did in ferrari

or what

are you blind

[tight urchin]

Yes I said to different extents, Lando proved to be more consistent than Oscar but he still had many more chances to maximise that he wasn’t able to, not including mechanical failure etc of course - he could’ve won the wdc by a larger margin than a handful of points is what I mean

[zinc rock]

Remind me how many wins sainz has in his career and how many podiums hamilton had in 2024

[lost sphinx]

what could he maximise exactly

[lost sphinx]

2 mistakes while having wdc pressure is quite big

[sudden bough]

lando had a lot more than 2 mistakes yo

[lost sphinx]

I remind you who is last Ferrari winner

[carmine atlas]

If you ranked based on future potential, Hamilton gonna retire next yr prob bro 😭

[zinc rock]

That means nothing when the car magically became shit in 2025

[lost sphinx]

this guy prefers hamilton than sainz in his team he got the Ferrari brain

[zinc rock]

Based on 4 factors:

1. Skill
2. Driving style / compatibility with teammate
3. Potential
4. Age and Feedback Input

[lost sphinx]

sainz is better in 3/4 of that

[zinc rock]

2 is why max is docked 6 places

[lost sphinx]

yet u put hamilton 4 places upper

[zinc rock]

Hes younger but hamilton is more experienced

[sudden bough]

max clears everyone on skill but building a team around him will cause a mess

[lost sphinx]

Sainz has better compatibility, better potential and younger

literally 3/4 better

skill is quite subjective and hard to compare so I give it to hamilton because of legacy but nothing else

[zinc rock]

Do you know what potential means