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@lavish ore @gloomy flame do you guys understand now
i understand its ragebait
Heyy mate
yea see, racing will be boring if the epsilon has to be precisely defined
smartest max defender
u dont get that instinctive feeling on overtaking
Bortoleto will win with pole + fastest lap + all laps led but nobody is ready for that conversation yet
That the stewards leave Hamilton alone?
it's not man impossible to discuss w people who every 2 messages say ragebait
yes, plus another Max masterclass in Sao Paulo
it’s also impossible to discuss with people who ignore hard evidence and facts
Hey guys can you join my server
Bortoleto is Senna in disguise
I'm not even max defender I'm just saying that he didn't break any rule that's why he wasn't penalised
BOR P1
VER P2
HAM P3
dream Brazil podium
but here we are
no advertising
Sao Paulo surprise. Alpine 1-2 Alonso p3
i can also just sit here all day and ignore facts
Oh ok mb I'll delete it
Underrated?
Max masterclass
BOR P1
BOR P2
BOR P3
BOR P4...
which fact did I ignore?
yes
the onboard and the rule article
lol
may be a max fan but i think he should had that 10 secs
you made up your own rulebook
if Bortoleto bottles the race he'll be called Bottleleto
I didn't I took what you sent me
i mean he could have returned
unfortunately the fia has already made its own laws that have already been adopted
Nah borboleta gonna fly
So does everyone support Sid to winning the WDC and hating on McLaren?
i want Max to win
no we want norris to win
Oscar getting P3 on these races uhhhh
Max (Sid from ice age)
unless piastri does what norris did in mexico in one of these last races
he needs to get his confidence back
As a norris fan I want norris to win but I won't be upset about max
else it's not happening
Nah nvm I want max to take it
hes not winning every race in that shitbox
you want Norris to win
red bull is not a shitbox anymore
I want Max to win
i want oscar to win
we’re different
qualified p5 btw
I don't hate Lando but it feels like he doesnt deserve it
yea
That would be funny if piastri and norris pull over a montreal 2
30.3 second win gap btw
I mean if he wins it then he deserves it imo lmao
2nd biggest in ground effect era
Oscar is actually being robbed
mexico is special given its track conditions and elevation
i don't hate anyone but i want oscar to win
Getting booed after 😭✌️
no he just doesn’t have setup data anymore, this is where experience matters
no drivers deserve to be booed 😭
If they're booing you you're doing something right
He can't keep up with Lando?
He had his front axle alongside the mirror in the apex and 0.0001m prior to the apex (it doesn't specify how much prior it is, therefore we can take any epsilon>0 such that point of apex-epsilon isn't apex anymore
He had full control of car and didn't go out of the track limits, therefore he completed the move within track limits
Now say I'm ragebaiting but this is the truth, this is why max didn't get penalised
Woah.
the fans need to stop fr
for all the dts fans, the two sides of the mclaren garage no longer share setup data anymore after mclaren won the constructors, this means each driver is basically on his own now and whatever his engineer can help him with, lando is outperforming oscar because experience now matters
Lando hate is forced.
fr?
max rammed lewis off the track, full control where? If lewis was not there max would've run off into the grass himself
he dived in??
and what is PRIOR TO the apex?
Does apex gp coming to f2?
how PRIOR TO the apex is PRIOR to the apex?
It's still one point difference Oscar still has a really good chance of winning
it is allowed to ram other drivers when u are ahead, see norris v piastri singapore
what if max does that overtake and his tyres touch lewis's car the wrong way, giving them both a puncture? Would he still be in control?
All three of them have a chance. Mathematically, same with George 😭
Just like a 0.005% chance
He did a normal overtake. Yeah prior to the apex is whatever point that isn't apex which is close enough
Is he out now?
Nah trust me Max can turn this around
If he locks in
there're 116 pts on the table
norris on piastri was an accident because of dirty air
there's still ambiguity
and does not show how verstappen did not get penalised for cutting t3
Someone do the math if both mclarens DNF does the chances go up for max and how much
Singapore t1 was just a turn 1 incident imo. Same with Austin
we are entering what ifs that didn't happen, but that would be different. Penalty would be for causing a colision rather than illegal overtake due to the consequences
Just a little inchident
One race btw only one race DNF
U always need to consider dirty air. With ur points, norris didn't have control therefore penalty? No it doesn't work like that.
yeah, easily gaining half a second on lewis and george yet wasn't even noted by race control
Oh are we still on the whole penalty thing
yeah the rules are ambiguous that's what people is against
10 sec is a bit much...
Hi everyoneee
and max DID cause a collision, a collision which was necessary for him to remain on track and not get penalised for that overtake. Do you understand what i'm saying?
Im not disagreeing but not much to be done about it now 😭
yeah this doesn't make sense
if lewis decided to cut T1 on his own max was going right off the track, he literally needed lewis there to slow him down in time
he wasn't in control at all
norris also did a colision with piastri which was necessary for him to remain on track and not spin
as i said, the rules need changing
Just analysing the penalty
fr
Hi guys
But what max did is allowed
Btw what the hell happened to sainz on the start i joined in late i didnt see much
any possible engine penalties from the leading drivers?
lando corrected it, he wasn't on a trajectory to leave the track. If piastri wasn't there he simply wouldn't have hit anyone, he wouldn't have gone off the track
speed sensor broke, sped in pit lane, drive-thru penalty, sped again, retire the car
if you squint and crumple up the rulebook
could have spined, u consider lots of ifs so this one too
If if if
I already justified with what you sent how it is allowed
Was there a crash???
this entire discussion is a what if
but you only gave if scenarios which did not happen
i dont quite rmb
it's you, I told you what he did
Ok even tho I love leclerc more than max that VSC at the end was bs 🙏
'it's always if if if, like if my mum had balls she'll be my dad'
What if there were elephants instead of cars
and i'm telling you how it's not in compliance with regulations
where are my ifs?
They should just run a race where instead of using cars they all have to run on foot
Yuki...
if leclerc didn't cut T2 lewis would've been on the podium, if leclerc got penalised he'd have missed out on the podium, if max got penalised bearman would've been on the podium, etc etc etc
It is, I justified again
of course there are what ifs in a discussion about something that didn't happen
Omg imagine bearman on podium
that's fake though because 10sec max penalty would have still meant he would be ahear
if my mom had balls she’d be my dad
What if the race didn't happen 💀
still it doesn't matter because max did not break the rules
max should’ve had that 10 sec
Going in circles because you don't have any response to my justification without using ifs
it's always if if if, right. If my mum had balls she would be my dad.
only way to explain that it should have been penalised is saying if lewis wasn't there, however he was there and was behind at the apex
i explained very clearly what happened and why it's against the rules using examples. If you're still struggling go read the conversation again
using what if examples
which are not what happened obviously
Didn't he lock up?
you need to consider what you have
if udk what's uncontrolled manner see last yr max against lando in mexico
I don't think so
that's purposefully not controlling his car
no
well i suppose all drivers should begin driving like max then, i wonder how long it'd take for rules to be changed. Last minute divebombs on everyone, ramming them off the track and then cutting the track yourself if you're 1cm ahead at the apex. That'd be some really exciting racing
Max just being max honestly
There max didn't make the turn and therefore got a penalty
But no penalty is a bit eh....
the reality is that the fia wants a spectacle, penalising max would mean killing his title hopes and that's not good for entertainment
They try and fail and get penalised, see Hamilton. That's why max is the best driver among all
max being fiery as always
WELL one thing i agree is
dont start with conspiracies like that
no reprimand is crazy
Thats just stewards inconsistency 😭
sound like piastri fans saying his car is sabotaged
uh huh, because max is the only one in a position to fight the mclarens. Max did the same thing as lewis and got no penalty
it's no secret that the fia wants seasons to go a certain way
Wdym. It is. Lando stuffed it full of tape
oh 2021 penalties and steward decisions hurt my brain
Hi guys
Can they penalise for his next race?
grid penalties theoretically yes
Ah
Yes but I doubt they will
they retracted a penalty in dutch gp (sainz vs lawson?)
that exposed their stewards' inconsistencies
lewis cut the chicane without being ahead at the apex
however you cant expose anything here
because what max did is legal
and also if they exposed somethimg
Wait são paulo was Mexico right
Red Bull would expose leclerc overtakimg Hamilton cutting the chicane
Still getting used to the tracks
doesn't have any sense to complain
Sao Paulo is next
Brazil?
Yeah
Oh Oke o
the cat and mouse game would be insane
Maybe give Hamilton a pole position next race and we call it day huh?
This doesn't look good
looks good for a P17 to P1
I actually feel bad for the Ferrari fans rn
Colapinto win
Worst season 🖖💔
Max aint winning
With both McLaren’s helping each other
Ain't a max fan but I want him to win
Helping???
now that they're 1 pt apart
if they get close the battle will be heated
Lando literally telling Oscar the better tire
and crash like a hamilton rosberg in spain
Cough cough
Oscar fell off though
Why
that was pretty kind of him
Idk ppl hate him so
not oscar if he doesnt get his confidence back
He’s been dominant
(I'm getting held hostage to hate Lando)
Ppl hate him cuz he’d bottle
If he wins they’d hate him less
Is it me or McLaren is favouriting Lando tho?
ppl are suspecting this
they've generally leaned towards helping lando more than oscar with strategy and radio calls
but then the mystery repercussions came in
lando is their own child while oscar is adopted
And doesn't that bring the random (definitely not forced) Lando hate?
it's like they're doing PR work to not sound like they have a favorite instead of just not saying anything at all
yes, and in fact i would agree if they hate zak brown
but def not the drivers
Idk i see it as lando being Zak's favourite and Oscar being Andrea's
I feel like they just don't want a rookie to take the WDC
Can't do that
oscar is in his third yr alr lol
LET HIM HAVE IT MAN
Eeeh thats stretching it. Mclaren has meddled too much but I don't think theyre actively swinging the wdc
and they hv experienced a true rookie going for WDC alr
That's the fault of oscars racing engineer
hv they not learnt anything
I know I would think that's weird too
Who doesn't have good alternative strategies for when things don't work
not necessary for hannah
in one-stop strategy we trust
He's winning
therefore he's the villain
There's a lot behind that.
Lando needs some PR training bruh 💀
Ohhh makes sense
verstappen was the villain in 2021-2023
LANDO SUCKS
Ok buddy
hamilton was the villain before
Nah i love lando being horrible at pr its great
He fell off
2nd place in championship yeah he did
He was one of most loved in 2021 though
It's so funny
i still rmb 2021 russia gp
everyone rooted for lando
a lot has changed since then
He’s in’s rocket ship and lost to a haas
Because he was underdog
😭😭😭
not he's not underdog and therefore he's hated
Pretty much. Brain to mouth filter is non existent
I actually am so happy fo bearman
“Lend me some pace senna this is a rookie haas we’re up against”
Was really bad last year
80% of what he said is out of context too
they just take it out of context to hate the driver who is getting good results consistently
Wait then why was Max hated??
Because he won everything
Because he was dominating
What did I get myself into 🙏
Now people are rooting for him
people hate seeing the same winner all the time
therefore hate the winners and support underdogs
Does get boring but not to point of hating...?
this is why this season they hate Lando because he has been the fastest since half 2024
yes fans of other drivers hate on the winner
Yoo guys
*Ollie's had a gd race
Piastri is pretty good. Car helps definitely
First for his driving style and attitude then cause he dominated, I think people like him now cause he’s the only one able to stop McLaren drivers, which people believe are only there cause of the car
Which he seems to be struggling with now
Lando has more expirence
attitude is liked when it's the underdog
a lot of people have pea sized brain and just hate lando cause they see others hating him. The fact that he showed reaction to the hate last year fueled this even more. I bet you most of Lando hate is not actually his fault its just people who dont think
True
Ferraris being mosquitos to him lol
He’s gotten over it now
Also that, but the first haters come because they don't like the same driver being the fastest every race
yes Lando has done things that made him hateable and he might even be not likeable off camera but still the hate is just too extra
Monkey see monkey do
what things did he even do
and now that he had a great weekend everyone ate shit xD
except those saying oscar's car is sabotaged
Oscar is doing bad so now ppl are assuming sabotage
He is one of the drivers described as the most 'genuine' off track. Whatever that means
He’s genuine anywhere
This is getting funnier and funnier
I don’t think anyone can say lando is acting different
Thats true. Very open.
They still boo him for no reason (well because they dont like to see the fastest driver dominating)
last year saying controversial things like max and luck, telling Lewis they ahd the fastest car and now its our turn blah blah blah (you start a problem with #teamLH your internet career is over)
He's not letting the hate get to him as much I find
You realize it’s nonsense
and then getting beaten by piastri also caused hate to continue
out of context, and everything after a race when you are still hot
How many did he win this season
6
yup thats the thing
it's like hating on a driver for saying this idiot pushed me off the track in a race
6 i think
doesn't have any sense
Out of 21?
20
this is not the real reason of hate, real reason is being the fastest driver
they find any excuse
And others just podiums huh
lando is so overhatedd
he's genuine
with verstappen they said his attitude and how he cheats and breaks rules for example
he isnt the fastest gng but hes still good
Yeah he's been on the podium 16/20 i think?
fun fact lando has some kind of reading disorders
Well he is, when I say fastest I mean with the car
similar to his dad adam norris
Oh ok thanks
not the best, but the fastest
yea i guess
he mentioned in his twitch stream
Dyslexia?
piastris bottling so hard
yea
yeah thats true. he speaks whats on his mind but in so many moments whats on his mind is bullshit LOLL
though yeah as raft said in the heat of the moment its unfair to judge someone
Seeing more support towards Sid tho
I'm ratflam not raftlam :+
Who is sid
That just stems from Mclaren hate because they've basically dominated this year.
I don’t like how he races
Paulo more like polo hahaha
Max (Sid from ice age)
He’s a dirty racer
Definitely. I enjoy it but each to their own lol
but idk man something tells me lando has kinda a similar problem to george
(on camera he looks like a good guy but off camera he may have some shit personality traits)
This is just an assumption I have about him its not factual
Oh, he has more support because he didn't dominate this season
Weird fan base
everywhere is like this
Lawnmowing*
motogp football any sport
yea i think so
people want underdogs to win
The suicide defending is annoying
And hate to those who have been winning for years
“Stop or I crash into you”
Ppl don't hate Ronaldo cuz he's good lol
the better you are, the more haters you have
Hamilton cant even get in podium
there's a whole dedicated subreddit hating ronaldo
Cuz of the pen
Can't argue with that
I know I get you
Does make it more entertaining for ppl like us who are neutral
Maybe he should have been good enough to not get a pen
Question. How long have you been watching f1? Honestly just wondering
Also Hamilton is getting old bruv
Max pushed him off
Started last month
Okay. Yeah make your own opinions don't listen to anything else. A lot of it is bullshit and don't take dts seriously if you watch it lol
a short trip back to the past.
||2 days ago, my frd told me sthing which he mentioned the word 'battle'. i thought he said Vettel.||
He should have just jumped over him easy
I'm very neutral I just support Williams and Ferrari fo sympathy
since 2021 saudi gp
Valid 😭
how's ur depression going
😭
I need to learn the history tho ppl keep talking bout random GPs from other years lol
10 sec pen made me jump and started waving my monitor around
And let's not talk about sainz...
2021 season is mostly enough
2021 and 2024 is most races they talk about now
Thanks I'll check it out
f1's not that big yet.
Im so sorry 😭
Bruh it is
F1 has blown up over the past couple years
there is 😭
hope the people are respectful at least
Yeah i woke up last year and im just getting into more stuff
i've seen people send death threats for no reason...
People cannot be serious bro
The dedicated lando hate subreddit is the red bull or max subreddit /joking kind of
f1 has formuladank which is a f1 norris haters subreddit
no matter what happens there all memes are laughing off norris
Hows lando even likeable
He's just a guy
Not likeable but no need to hate him that much
i hate fdank
And I do have friends who actually support Lando
for this season u'd wanna know 2007, 2010, 2021 and 2024 season
2007 and 2010 cuz ppl are discussing their similarity to this yr
İ mean he has 2 phases depression and cocky
Ight
then 1986??
i remember back when lando was loved by everyone
No
too old lol
At least this season?
So every driver. They're all depressed at some point or another 😭
almost everyone
unless f1 went back to V8/V10 turbos we arent discussing that lol
But he's just idk like he's lost in a deep void or smth
What what do they use now???
V6
I thought they still use V10s
I think
1.6L V6 turbo Hybrid Engine
last used in 2005 lol
Whaaaaa
technically 2006, Toro Rosso with a detuned V10
Cuz piastris better than him even tho hes been in f1 more than him
200+ mph with a v6 💔
How was living under a rock for 20 years
😭🙏
I'm sorry that was mean
how's 2005 japanese gp
Man 😍
You telling me breaking speed records with a v6 mate
i bet kimi raikkonen will win a WDC
Definitely. Winning it by not even being in a car
Ah miss the old days
no track limits ahh
Lol
Heaven.
Usgp before nascar
mclaren got fastest pit somehow
idk
Know its fucked when 3.6 is considered a good stop 😭
better than others still
Yuki with his 12 second stop somehow
sobs in ferrari
sainz trying his best to keep the limit was wholesome
let's hope brazil is not carting

what's in that
"Whats in that" wdym?
Is sao Paulo in 2 weeks or 1
So you're saying max is gonna be fearfull from 7th to 9th November cuz of how he preformed last year?
no
Then?
If anything Lando should be worried if we're talking about performances last year
jus tfroget it bro, i am not a max fan🙏
this is ragebait I'm sure
i am lh fan
Twin?
what you meant by that?
Not tryna fight but
https://files.catbox.moe/jc26yy.jpg
I meant at the Brazil gp. Not the season as a whole lmao
Referencing max 17 -> 1 with Lando p6 i think?
Lando P1 ->P6
Yeaaah
I hate tryna break it to you but one race doesn't decide if you're a good driver cuz thw whole season max only got 1 driver of the day while lando got 7
No no I know. I just meant that if we're basing results solely on the Brazil gp last year. Not tryna discredit lando or say he's not a good driver or anything 😭
interlagos about to have a peak race 🔥🔥
can't know until we see
usually yes, but 2023 exists
Let it rain
Using their engine as a frying pan maybe
Rain + pole lap
(Ok yes the livery is kinda goated)
Think different ah move
🤣
with senna spying on verstappen's spirit
When is the next race?
2 weeks time
Oh ok thx
São Paulo Grand Prix (<t:1762707600:R>)
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Probably vegas
Yea
Only chance for me is Vegas.
Yooo
I guess so
Ferrari have been good there in the past
Btw who won the gp?
I don’t see why not this year
Lando Norris
Oh...
It was
Norris P1
Leclerc P2
Max P3
Bearman P4
Oscar P5
😭
Bearman p4??
Yea
Damn
He took the place from max and Lewis whilst they were fighting
I think it was max and Lewis
Brazil soon
Reads BOB from faraway with that font.
hey, been a while
bro replied 2 months later 😭
😂
this guy replied to my message from 7 months previous like 3 times
so i guess that ties it up
them messages got a 40-grid place penalty
actually it was 9 months previous 💀
real
Ye
But a lot of them are like toxic and cry over anything
Not all of them just some of them (ifykyk)
be grateful youre not on twitter
yeah happens a lot
long off there
But “McLaren sabotaged Oscar’s car!!!!”
Oscar’s been doing bad at them tracks for the past few years
some LH fans past Mexico are....
Wdym sabotaged
yea
See I can take Lewis fans because Lewis has something to show
Oscar has nothing to Show for it
i don't think that they sabotaged but u can see they want lando to win more, but i honestly understand it
i mean nah im talking about fan behaviour
There’s no point me a lando fan arguing with fans of a 7 time world champion who’s been in the sport for years
sub 50 iq
Well who wouldn’t? Who’s in form and has the points in the bag now as we come to 4 tracks that favour verstappen
like i know there are normal ones and Lewis is not his fanbase but the radical part of his fanbase post Mexico... holy shit
Yea
ofc its diff in generation
that's generous
yea i guess Lewis' is just more noticable cus hes the biggest driver on the grid rn
Would you rather choose Oscar Piastri who hasn’t got the points in the bag and isn’t in form to fight verstappen? Or Lando who does and is in form
i would not say soo even if he is a 7 time wdc he is struggling
McLaren will make a decision after brazil. If Landos in form still and is ahead in the championship they will favour Norris, especially should verstappen win.
i think that norris is just better now
some of the “news” pages are a disgrace
In form 100%
ofc he is more celebrated but not the most competitive rrn
oscar is kinda loosing his form now
One driver is stuck behind a haas whilst the other is winning by 30 seconds
what i mean is that bad behaviour from Lewis' fans is easier to notice cus theres more of then
in form he is a much more experienced driver with slightly better pace
yeaa its true
out of form he’s absolutely terrible
I mean some Oscar fans are coming up with the excuse of McLaren not being fast anymore
Do you think McLaren isn’t the fastest anymore?
sub 20 iq
I’d say some races yes some races no
Exactly
W
they’re not dominant but generally they are at the front
Mexico McLaren were by far the fastest
marginally
he was too confident about his WDC i think
Yea, 1st or 2nd
Exactly
his performance is off a little bit
red bull aren’t far off
Also 95% of Oscar fans are like young young, been fans since 2023,2024 or 2025
maybe he is not familiar with the tracks rn
if mclaren is not the fastest then how tf did Lando win with 30s lead
lmao
i mean
sometimes its not ofc
Where as least 50-60% of lando fans have been fans before 2024
people still love to claim the red bull is 4th quickest which is actually the most stupid fucking thing I’ve ever heard and they can’t comprehend the fact that some tracks suit some cars better because they started watching last year
rn it is the fastest of all cars there
That is the case, shouldn’t be an excuse to being behind a haas and a rookie who’s on this track for the first time though right?
but in mexico fe. if i see anybody say mclaren was nit the fastest then ill drink orange juice (ill do it anyway)
depends on the place but generally yes it is a safe bet
Oscar fans might one of the worst fan bases atm
or that redbull was 3rd fastest last year 😭😭
sometimes sure
sounds about right
Oscar is a lovely guy, he’s great and he has a good attitude, his fan base is NOT IT though
actually averaged on quickest but it was generally a second fastest front runner for most of the season
yeaaa not everyone knows the track damn well in a short span of time ... i men ollie might have analysed even more or was more familiar with the track
but cmon overall they were equal with mclarens, checo just couldnt deliver
yea exactly
neither do I lol I support both its fucking ridiculous
like verstappen supremacist forgot first 5 races or smth lol
I can understand the lando hate for things he said back in 2024 though, but seriously get a grip now, he’s so much more different. 2024 Lando would’ve been put down by the booing and would finish p7 for the next 2 races. 2025 Lando said he’s laughing at the booing because he finds it funny
and even then mclaren was not allat most races
Yea Ollie is a future champion
ollie is brilliant
If he gets into a fast car he will win races
put him and zhou in that Ferrari please thank you
Insane driver ngl
real
but you cant justifiy that piastri is out of form just because he finished behind a haas right???
He defended in a much slower car against the fastest car on the grid with the same age tyres.
Verstappen owns him
in every way possible
Not only that, but the past few races
Been off the podium for a while
yeaa
get outta here lol
Of course he would, that’s not up for debate. You can’t compare lando to max
You just can’t
Ones been in the sport since 2016 and all he kknows is racing
max driving is completely diff from lando
def the best driver on the grid right now
He’s built for racing
Yes exactly, ones got much more experience too
people who complain about the best driver not being in the quickest car actually make me sick lol like don’t hate a guy for being in the right place at the right time
Yea no doubt Max is the best
lando is a sweetie pie compared to maxs style
Can’t call lando that now, your describing a 2024 version of lando
def
schumi first for sure then lewis then max maybe? idk
yeaaa know he is more silent than he was before
clarke? fangio?
so hard to compare so many good drivers
name 3 better drivers than max
Top 5, but if he wins this years championship or gets close to it like im talking under 10 points away after Abu Dhabi, top 3 oat
yea defo
it depends on what u vote right??
Guys, you know how Lewis made a lot of
Mistakes in 2021, I feel like maxs mistakes this year will come back to bite him
honestly its hard to say whos the greatest
jim clarke, juan manuel fangio, hamilton, schumacher, probably Prost tbh
if max continues to win championships in his career like he has the past years he will be the best driver ever
like there were so many eras its hard to compare yk
I think he will finish just under 10 points away from the champion this year, and it’ll be Austria and Spain that’ll bite him
yeaa that to 4 wdc already and he is jut 27!!!!
Such dominate wdcs too
id honestly rate prime Vettel over prime Verstappen
2023 !!! bro sheesh
im only curious, if Charles could fight Max so well in 19/22 what would bappen if they had equal cars theyre both comfortable in... because like lets say Lewis retires this season and Max replaces him and Charles goes on to beat Max - that surely would show a lot how good Charles is no?
i know if if if
just a random thought
holy yap
👨🦳
my man, he was fighting one of the most competitive grids ever in 2010 and 2012 both in years where the WDC was tight as fuck and he still came out on top
max loves charles
yeaa if they both have the equal cr it fr comes down to experiance more over that its skill which rates them
and he absolutely broke mark webber for 4 years
verstappen dominated the grid consistent for a year
It’s hard to say, I mean drivers like senna in his era you had drivers like Prost, hill hakinnen, schumacher, alesi, brundell, herbet etc,
Max has drivers like a washed Lewis Hamilton and a lando Norris hitting his peak and Oscar Piastri to fight
The competition level is no where near
and so dosz Charles love Max
because he had a seriously quick car behind him, you could say the same for Vettel in 2013 but he was still incredible and consistent from 11-13
You can’t tell me lando Norris is better than senna or schumacher or Damon hill
compare the cars piastri and max drive in
ferrari needs to pay for its crimes
its fr less compared to the old generation
nobody is saying that
Max drivers the second fastest
I’m talking to the adesanya guy
why is he saying that
ive never saïd that
He’s saying max is the best and i wouldn’t put the theory down I just don’t think max is the best
Sure max is top 7
But not the best
i said he WILL be the best if he continues like this
but there has been better
he’s not the best right now
Yea in maybe 3-5 years yes
Look if he does it in a car that isn’t the fastest max Is top 3
you have to remember the competition though
guys what do you think the winning percentage b/w lando piastri and max this season??
max would need to join a lot to become goat
ehhhhh, yuki performs terrible in almost the same car
All around 30 percent maybe max a little less
join ferrari and win with them? i guess
but thats level impossible for like next 5 years
Because the redbull is suited to max only?
and Max dgaf 😂
I mean just the fact that he's even competing right now is pretty impressive
Because max is the only one who can drive the car, that’s pure skill
If you have been a f1 fan for like at least 2 years you’d know that the redbull is built around max
Correction : it’s suited to his driving style
ofc bro yuki is not yet comfortable with the car because max has been drving the same thing for a lot and has experiance abt it
I can tell he hasn’t been a fan for long
Yea exactly, max is definitely one of the greats but not the greatest
Common knowledge
put norris in a redbull which will be suited to his driving style , trust you he is nowhere near doing what max does
Not really
you love Gods creation
hes a sweet dwarf, what’s not to love about him
not bad id say
💀 if anyone had a car built around their driving style which was one of the fastest I’m sure they would have a fair share of wins
yuki shmol
so you’re telling me norris is on the same skill level as max? or nearly same skill level?
Goat defended for like 10 laps against Oscar
👍
No Yuki's a good driver
Not a great driver, but a good one
what the sigma
I never said that? You’re implying it which is incorrect.
nah genuinely wth happened with Oscar
the streets will not forget vcarb 2025 yuki
nah bro lando has a long way to go
Yea I know
you stated that if anyone (including norris) had a car built around them they would have a share of wins like max
But when your in a car built around you which is one of the fastest, things tend to go your way don’t they?
I said a “fair share” that doesn’t mean the same as max lol
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF RUSSEL MAN ... I FEEL SAD FOR HIM
Max hasn’t got a fair share of wins, he has a lot of them
thats why i stated ‘nearly same skill level’
I never said lando was near the skill of max
honestly if both have the fastest car i dont think landos results are much different than maxs like both can get the job done
but max i think can get the job overdone in not fastest car
i mean if you put them in the same twam max wins
fosho
we dont know it yet bro
read message after
I'd say Lando's a great driver, but he's definitely not in the conversation of greatest of all time and Max, even if you don't think he's the greatest, is definitely in the discussion
, plus we need to remember the McLaren for the first 10 races of the season was built more towards Oscar which was confirmed by Stella,
Yea I agree
yeaa it depends on their form too right
Don’t engage with adesanya he’s been a fan for about a year
I don’t think he understands how redbull work
ive been a fan for 10+ years.
So have I :(
not neccessarily towards Oscar, mclaren went for performance but that came with a driveability cost and Oscar better adapted for it
I don’t believe it
i think driver 61 made a vid about it
Well about 2 now
But atleast you know common things
its not even the point tbf
The suspension, Stella mentioned how the suspension was towards Oscar’s style
yea
just because you disagree with what i say doesn’t mean i have been watching f1 for only a year
He’s talking about how Yuki can’t do what max does in the redbull
We all know how redbull works with their cars
At least for the past few years
what i mean is both Max and Lando can get the job done (Max more ofc), but Max can do insane things and Lando not really and like thats fine
honestly idk so i cant speak
Also I think the current regulations and era of cars suit max more, checo was closer to max in 21 than 22, 23 or 24
okay i may need to correct that a little bit, i meant not even remotely close to max
you can keep it as max p1 and lando p2 (maybe)
Maybe when the 26 regulations come in maxs teammates will be that slightly closer to max. Or they will be even further lol
I did watch some Jacques and Gilles Villeneuve driving before, but never watched actual seasons until recently
Heard about Max and Hamilton and all that a bit tho
do you guys rlly think the 2026 season be gud????
not really, they went for radical anti dive suspension which numbs drivers feeling. Oscar just feels better with it than Lando
Yea exactly towards Oscar’s style
eeeh...
Since he prefers it
there is no more drs it seems
It wasn’t on purpose
if max wins the championship, scenes will be insane
Predictions for this GP?
yea
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idk if links are allowed
but that vid explains mclaren situation pre canada pretty well
i often have feeling that the 2026 regulation change is gonna hugly affect the entire sport... what u guys think??
bring back v10s
its one of the most radical regulation changes
I think Piastri might do better this GP, considering how he was driving last one
Idk man it's Tuesday
Btw, not a prediction, it’s what i hope 😭
no way bro hope that they dont go complete electric in the following season
If lando wins 2 races of the last 4, he will be champion
That’s kind of my thinking
He’s got the momentum he’s got the results in the bag
ig
I don’t see why not
reckon they get freaky in the cool off room
and he claims he had agreat car last race
Nandos Boris and Fax Mustardpain getting freaky
lando p3 max p2 charles p1
pooor lewis
so we can have 3 podiums in a row made of same 3 drivers all taking different position every time
he can have vegas qatar and abu dhabi
soo u saying in a rotation??
Yea
me 24/7
Bearman P1
Polak?
kk lets see
that would be nice
@silver jacinth
polska gurom
all the LH fans just wants too see him on podium bro not even a win
for sure
my guy
But The 3 races after 100% they’ll be there
G.O.A.T
yeaa they might cause charles might pull of some insane overtakes in vegas
wait i just realised this mf won both ucl and euro same year what the helly
where tf did this hamster go
nooo
🥲
dude what the fuck happened with this year is our year
like holy fuck i remember peak delusion early 2025
Disney are going to be at the vegas GP
Guys
Average Ferrari fan moment
yea i still remember *STILL I RISE * ON THE back of LH helmt
😭
Hamilton started off decent, then his depression from not winning snowballed
DUDE but charles man he is carrying the whole ferrari
You see, the first mistake was believing in Ferrari
The second mistake is still believing in Ferrari
The third mistake is sticking with them
Am i guilty of all 3? Yes
Do i plan to do something about it? Hell no
Power Rankings.
my brother
except australia
Seems actually good for once, i'd consider putting Max over Charles
Max almost got Charles in what seems to be a worse car that the Ferrari
I'm so happy I chose to be a McLaren fan last year before they started winning
Someone send spy on McLaren and tell me their secret pls
Somehow i chose to be a Ferrari fan in 2020
I do not know how, must be the Charles/Seb duo
charles a bit more, for Lewis snowball mf effect
sadge
Total average.
same thing for me but C2 last year
What even is this
Spygate v2?
36th race that I watched I believe
Average of all Power Rankings of this season.
alright 35th because i did nit watch that fucking snooze fest aka Japan
What the hell is a power ranking?
ollie more than LH
First race i watched was Monza 2020
I have no idea how many races are since then
Ratings of driver performance by "experts".
good first to race to watch as Charles fan haha
Aramco bait for engagement
Well that's stupid, there's already a rating of driver performance
It's called the fucking standings
GUYS DO YOU THINK LH DESERVED THE PENALTY???
They claim to balance the car performance
Because let's be honest, Hamilton is above people like Albon in the standings
Does he have a better year though? (objectively)
Yes, but not that much time and Max also deserved one
nope
i mean hamilton is just there
The main problem is that these ratings (like any fan/board rating) are subjective
thats the diff b/w a high expected team and a mid field team cause if william have a car on podium it is a big ahceivment for them but for a big team like ferrari if they dont get to podium thats completely diff right??
albon sometimes pulls an insane drive sometimes he has a weekend where hes nowhere
Exactly
Williams did not have a podium in 4 years, and before that it was 2017
And some give something like this.
time penalties under safety cars are bullshit
Oof, hard case
It's the unfortunate timing of the incident happening really close to the closing of the vote, until then Max was on a different strategy trying to do something to the McLarens
For DOTD shits and giggles i'd pull up Jeddah 2021
Max was voted DOTD in that race, by the way
Jeddah is fun
How about Austria last year?
genuinely who tf designed qidiya
it looks awful to drive as of right now
ofc it might change
but idk idk man...
driver of the day that looses 7 places lmao, thats crazy
I'd really like Jeddah to be permanent, it's probably my favorite middle eastern track along with Bahrain
The funny thing is that it was not under SC, it was after the restart
The field was still bunched, so this happened
After that, he's lucky to even pick up a point
i hate bahrain ngl
i mean depends
what happened Jeddah 2021?
for races its decent

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