monaco-gp

[barren rock]

didnt he give the call for Liam?

to demote and replace him

[sly dirge]

RB brought Sainz, Albon, Gasly, Max, Yuki, Lawson, Hadjar to F1

[neat fern]

Marko?

[fathom flare]

didnt he also talk shit abt hadjar

for crashing in australia

[sly dirge]

I don't know what he did and didn't say

[barren rock]

not a super fan of Liam but cmon, he wont get podiums from first few races, let alone challenging Max

[fathom flare]

and now hadjar is rookie of the year

[barren rock]

yeah exactly

[sly dirge]

But flaming Isack for Crashing in Australia when even Alonso and Sainz crashed out is just diabolical

[sharp sable]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[neat fern]

Look what he is doing at rb now

[fathom flare]

tbf it was the formation lap

[barren rock]

you are right but recently hes gone full opposite

[neat fern]

Huh?

[fathom flare]

but still hating on him even though he didnt even see any results is crazy

[neat fern]

Oh

[neat fern]

Ur not wrong

[barren rock]

hes the reason for such chaos

[sly dirge]

tbf at that point the track is at the worst condition

[fathom flare]

idk i didnt watch the race

australia was the only race i didnt watch this year and i still hate myself for it

[barren rock]

https://tenor.com/view/charles-leclerc-bruh-banana-suit-charles-leclerc-gif-27525709

[worthy pelican]

Booo

[sly dirge]

Just watch the highlights 👀

[fathom flare]

i did

[sharp sable]

Australia 2025 was what made me like Oscar a lot. Honestly debating on getting tickets cause that crowd had me in tears.

[barren rock]

@worthy pelican drink red bull

[sly dirge]

so you saw it

[fathom flare]

but still silverstone was the better race

[worthy pelican]

Never drank it in my life 🙈

[fathom flare]

silverstone best race of this year til now

[barren rock]

Red Bull gives you Wings (not in 2025 tho)

[sly dirge]

Silverstone best race of the last 2 years

[fathom flare]

canada last year was a great race

[sharp sable]

Oh, Silverstone had my non-f1-fan-family and boyfriend sit down on the couch with me for two hours. Was peak.

[sharp sable]

Wasn't that the Ferrari double dnf?

[sly dirge]

Without Hulk on the Podium tho

[barren rock]

nah man last year's Sao Paulo

[fathom flare]

yeah

[sharp sable]

Yikes

[fathom flare]

oh yeah i forgot abt brazil last year

[sharp sable]

Brazil 2024?

yep

[fathom flare]

lowkey brazil 2024 qualifying is debatable for the best qualifying oat

that was pure insanity

[barren rock]

the amount of respect Max earned from that race 🔥

literally shut all his haters

[fathom flare]

from p17 to p1 is crazy

[barren rock]

with a significant lead too

[fathom flare]

and two alpines on the podium too

[barren rock]

20s gap

[sharp sable]

Cause the Alpine is a boat, not a car

[barren rock]

xD yea

[fathom flare]

tbf he had both alpines behind him

[barren rock]

still, there were the Mclarens to hunt him down

and Ferrari and Lewis's Merc...

[fathom flare]

nah norris bottled it again and idek anymore what piastri was doing

[tawdry jackal]

Christian Horner is gone ?

[fathom flare]

yes

[tawdry jackal]

Good fing riddance

Now it’s helmut turn (not likely)

😭

[sharp sable]

I'm realizing this is gonna be a constant question today, especially when the US side of the server wakes up i na few hours.

[barren rock]

im praying

[tawdry jackal]

I just woke up

[barren rock]

yeah lol

[tawdry jackal]

And saw this

[sharp sable]

Morning!

[barren rock]

good morning bro

[real heath]

the US side is already awake (source: am american)

[tawdry jackal]

Morning 😌

[sharp sable]

Join Zak Brown in popping a bottle of Champagne

[fathom flare]

what time is it

[tawdry jackal]

It’s like 8:30ish est

[lilac nova]

Is Helmut Marko’s role like Zak Brown’s role?

[sharp sable]

Vibes.

[real heath]

7:22 am for me

[barren rock]

i rlly hate the Mclarens tho, they showed their true colours on silverstone podium

ignoring Hulkenberg like crazy

[tawdry jackal]

Nah more like flavio old role before he was team principal for alpine

[real heath]

(ive been up for 3 hours though, god help us all)

[fathom flare]

yeah its sad they didnt spray hülkenberg

[barren rock]

if only Max or Lewis was there with Hulk...

[sharp sable]

I think we already had that conversation and disagreed. Cheers on the Hulk podium though~

[barren rock]

exactlyy, thats what hit me the most

[sharp sable]

Ma'am or sir? Why?

[barren rock]

selfishness gone crazy

[sharp sable]

Not gonna get into it again, but agree to disagree.

[barren rock]

it was **very **clear what they did but alr

[tawdry jackal]

Now the real question is are they doing this because they want to avoid Verstappen signing for Mercedes or he already is about to sign for Mercedes so they kicked him out

[real heath]

1. its ma’am :)
2. i just woke up, couldnt get back to sleep, checked my phone, then discovered that learning horner got fired is a great alternative to coffee

[sharp sable]

2. is Peak and I congratulate you

[tacit crypt]

Guess we're gonna find out soon lol

[tawdry jackal]

They did a bit for a second but mainly did it to other McLaren staff

[fathom flare]

max would be dumb if he stayed

[barren rock]

he will 200% go to Merc now, i think he was only there for Horner

[tawdry jackal]

Last thing Christian said was Red Bull has to be prepared for max leaving

[tawdry jackal]

Depends how much power Jos has ngl

[barren rock]

https://tenor.com/view/toto-wolff-angry-mercedes-f1-crash-red-flag-gif-26173900

[elfin mesa]

In place of whom? George's contract is not signed yet. But he was their very long investment.

[tawdry jackal]

Oh he’s getting hot and bothered thinking of max rn

https://tenor.com/view/tanguille-lore-toto-wolff-mercedes-gif-8021211907319856829

[barren rock]

George obv

[elfin mesa]

Weren't they excited and monitored George for a long time?

[barren rock]

bro, its Max.

[sharp sable]

Oh, people are now speculating Horner had a performance clause

[tawdry jackal]

Yeah I don’t really seeing them drop kimi not because George and max hate each other but kimi so young so to drop him like that after a decent first stint wouldn’t really make sense

[barren rock]

in front of Max they wont give shit about George

[sharp sable]

And that's why he got sacked mid-season without any goodbye like Danny Ric

[elfin mesa]

Also I think there will be 11 teams next year so there will be ample employment for everyone

[tawdry jackal]

Especially because they see kimi as the future

[barren rock]

precisely

[tawdry jackal]

And max already has a great relationship with kimi anyways

[elfin mesa]

Probably Checo Pérez is going to have a comeback

[tawdry jackal]

Not with helmut Marko

[elfin mesa]

Nah not in RB

[barren rock]

best is George to Williams, Albon to RB, Max to Merc

[tawdry jackal]

Cadillac ?

[barren rock]

dang i forgot Cadillac and Audi are coming next year

[tawdry jackal]

George to Cadillac ?

Trust

[barren rock]

Hulkenberg is already selected by Audi right?

[tawdry jackal]

Yeah

[polar carbon]

Bottas and George to caddy

[elfin mesa]

But the question is will Mercedes be good enough to give Max a fighting chance with McLaren? But as much as I have seen Max, he would've wiped the floor with this year's Merc, if he can win 2 races with that RB Lawn mower.

[tawdry jackal]

Caddliac gonna be Mercedes 2

[elfin mesa]

Bottas to Alpine sooner

[polar carbon]

Merc can use a sister team like rb

[tawdry jackal]

Engine wise yes

[barren rock]

Max will take it bro

next year is regulation change year so who knows

[elfin mesa]

I wish Max could go to Aston Martin under Adrian Newey

[barren rock]

i can see Mclaren's downfall and AM's rise already

[elfin mesa]

Please do it sooner

[barren rock]

next year 4-5 races will be Mclaren, thats it

[elfin mesa]

The McLaren arrogance is too much specially how they treated Hulk on the podium

[barren rock]

IKRRRRR

[sharp sable]

Hey, I'll take what I can get with the new regulations coming through.

[elfin mesa]

But I have no problem if Oscar wins it all

The media hype guy is just too much

[barren rock]

fr

[polar carbon]

I want McLaren to be a middle tier team.. let them not see the light of victory ever again

[elfin mesa]

Fr fr

[sharp sable]

I respect the competitiveness in this chat.

Good fun.

[barren rock]

tbh i want all teams to be mid tier (except Ferrari)

[elfin mesa]

Gp2 engine gp2 engine is the best McLaren era

[barren rock]

so there will be some tension like whos gonna will this race

[tacit crypt]

Yeah tbh got kinda rly boring being a mclaren fan lmao

[elfin mesa]

There will not be a combo of Brawn and Schumacher again in F1 mate

[barren rock]

unlike since 2015 where you literally know which team is gonna win

Mercedes, then RB, now Mclarens

[worthy pelican]

Clearly not ✌🏻😂

[tawdry jackal]

They usually clipped them

[barren rock]

back when there were proper world champions and proper F1 racing, not just yelling on radio for who had the turn

[elfin mesa]

I would have supported if they had drivers with talents like Prost or Senna like they used to do. Instead they are backing a liberty media pushed driver while sabotaging a really talented one.

[tawdry jackal]

Speaking of which I still hoping they give me the position I applied for

[polar carbon]

Horner fired can also mean 2 things

1. Keep Max happy
2. Or max is def leaving leaving

[barren rock]

or like RB has Max

[elfin mesa]

2

[tawdry jackal]

I think he’s leaving

Geuinly

[barren rock]

option 2 is the most obv

[elfin mesa]

Even Lewis is extremely talented

[polar carbon]

Dw gang!! They will give you the team principal role

[late remnant]

hi yall

[barren rock]

yeah Merc era seeing Lewis win wasnt a boring sight

[late remnant]

how is life

[elfin mesa]

Nah bro. 2007 08 newbie Lewis was different gravy 💀

[barren rock]

but i think Lewis did get a **TON **of help from Valtteri

[polar carbon]

You may never know. Who would have ever thought that Lewis would leave Merc and go to Ferrari

[barren rock]

ah that was a different era of drivers man

all of them ruthless

best imo

[radiant ice]

Wsup with merc paying $100m for max's exit from RB?

[sharp sable]

Horner fired. Zak Brown is cracking open a cold one. Vibes are immaculate. Excited to see if Mekies can lead the team.

[elfin mesa]

Massa alonso lewis button peak Kimi

[barren rock]

time

[polar carbon]

So are all the drivers in the current era soy boys?

[late remnant]

yh, I imagine younger Lewis would have been like max but less aggressive and more just plain back up with results attitude

[barren rock]

Vettel Schumacher

[late remnant]

am aware

[radiant ice]

And how's mekies??

[late remnant]

I live in nz so news caught live

[barren rock]

technically yea, theyre more focused on "whos turn it was"

[elfin mesa]

Bro I was literally gonna write the same. Lewis was more like Max, for those who actually saw the interviews.

Bro told Massa "don't touch me"

[polar carbon]

His rivalry with Nico also

[barren rock]

where did that Lewis go :/

[elfin mesa]

Wokeness got to him.

[late remnant]

I wish I grew up in that era of F1 though tbh, being a 2010 child sucks in more ways than people calling me young asf

[polar carbon]

Bro turned unc status

[tawdry jackal]

Lmao if they did max would a 5 time champion this year trust

But it’s intern role

[barren rock]

i mean if you see even Max isnt like Mad Max anymore

[tawdry jackal]

I applied for

[elfin mesa]

Nah bro. We live in a world of youtube where you can watch old races.

[elfin mesa]

" I'll headbutt someone"

[tawdry jackal]

Also this came out 3 hours before Christian got fired

So max probably going to Mercedes

[late remnant]

it doesn't hit the same, I have watched most races since the 1980s but it's not quite the same as it felt on live TV as a kid yk

[barren rock]

yea now you can see Max is Congratulating everyone, hes being kind to all in interviews

[polar carbon]

After bro got a kid, he calmed down soo much now. He is a semi professional F1 driver and full time sim driver

[barren rock]

i like this Max more tho

[elfin mesa]

Imagine Lewis in Ferrari and Max in mercedes fighting each other for WDC.

[barren rock]

yessss

[barren rock]

YES MICHEAL YES THAT WAS SO RIGHT

[languid quarry]

It doesn’t make sense to replace either Mercedes driver rn

[late remnant]

yh

[barren rock]

George Russell 🤷‍♂️

most obvious

[tawdry jackal]

Toto this not called a racing sport

[polar carbon]

I mean he has nothing to loose right, he has it all. 4 time world champion and all the records he broke

[languid quarry]

Well Antonelli has a long future ahead of him but Russell is also rlly good

[polar carbon]

Or send Kimi back to the minors

[elfin mesa]

Really. I feel really lucky to have watched Michael Schumacher live. I know all the Lewis vs Max debate, i myself like them both, but Michael Schumacher was something else man.

[tawdry jackal]

Minors?

[grizzled sphinx]

Kimi is a future prospect, George seems replacable

[polar carbon]

F2 series

[tawdry jackal]

No

[late remnant]

Russell and antonelli chemistry is good, replacing Russell who has experienced the mercs for years now is a good mentor for kimi, max would have to adapt and that could hurt antonellis progress a bit

[languid quarry]

Shame for George

[barren rock]

keep an occasional race winner or get a 4 time world champion who competes with rocketships in a tractor

[grizzled sphinx]

wouldnt happen in a million years, he is doing surprisingly well

[tawdry jackal]

He’s already better than half the grid

[grizzled sphinx]

Antonelli seems very attached to Max tho, they seem to have a great offtrack chem

[elfin mesa]

Max will literally be big bro to kimi.

[barren rock]

i dont think so, he was so kind to Antonelli despite him crashing in

[languid quarry]

Max is good but Mercedes don’t need a better driver

[barren rock]

they badly do

[languid quarry]

Nope

[elfin mesa]

Barring Lewis and Alonso, Max is possibly the best mentor someone can ask for

[grizzled sphinx]

I dont think it has much to do with him liking antonelli, although he definitely does, its more so that he just doesnt care at this point because he knew he wasnt fighting for the win and knows hes more or less out of the title fight unless an absolute miracle happens so hes just accepting it atp

[polar carbon]

Have you seen that clip of max maxplaining to kimi and someone takes kimi away and his face goes “What, what is happening”

[late remnant]

Schumacher in my opinion is the third greatest F1 driver of all time, behind only Alain Prost and Jim Clark.

[tawdry jackal]

They already have a good relationship and Max doesn’t seem to want to hurt young driver progress because of what he went through at 17 with masa and other drivers

[late remnant]

watching him live would have been insane

especially a season like 2002

[fathom flare]

nicholas latifi to redbull 2026 -> here we go!

[barren rock]

yeah

[elfin mesa]

And like yourself, I haven't have the luck to watch the last two live. So Michael felt unhumanly when I watched.

[late remnant]

would he give up a pointy car that suits his driving style best for antonellis sake though?

[polar carbon]

Yeah ig.. just got polish the mistakes and he good

[radiant ice]

Franz Hermann in german team 💀

[tawdry jackal]

He probably wouldn’t have as much control on cars areo as you think

[barren rock]

Max makes it more pointy, other driver cant keep up, with that much pointyness

[tawdry jackal]

In Mercedes

[elfin mesa]

Kimi is good, but I think Ollie is the best rookie if the car quality is considered. Bro is taking that Haas to competitive positions. Even Borto is good either.

[late remnant]

yeah... imagining seeing performances like the 1963 Belgian Grand Prix live is ridiculous

[hoary canyon]

I agree

[simple ravine]

Max Chemistry is so good with Kimi, that he said: “lil bro, it’s ok to crash, everyone could do it” if George would be hit, he would say,… (I won’t say it because I don’t wanna get banned)

[radiant ice]

💀💀💀

[tawdry jackal]

The rookies this year have been class

[polar carbon]

Barto had Audi to look forward to next year

[hoary canyon]

XD it's just beef

[barren rock]

did i miss the joke?

[elfin mesa]

Not all. Doohan wasn't great.

[grim aurora]

When is Belgian gp

[tawdry jackal]

Liam has his struggles too

[elfin mesa]

Liam proved himself what he can do in a car that suits him.

[barren rock]

i mean he didnt get much time to prove himself

and he also had a trash car

[tawdry jackal]

Also I wouldn’t blame dohann because it feels more like alpine(flavio) than him tbh

[barren rock]

just like Mick Schumacher

[barren rock]

yea

[radiant ice]

Put stroll in a mclaren 🐐🗣️

[polar carbon]

I think it’s time

[elfin mesa]

8 wdc in 20 years, including the Merc dominance isn't bad tbh

[simple ravine]

Dutch?

[barren rock]

u got ss of Franz Hermman's phone?

[radiant ice]

Yo fon linging

[tawdry jackal]

He has it all on paper 😌

https://tenor.com/view/very-demure-very-mindful-toto-wolff-f1-meme-gif-11711418356385990890

[polar carbon]

Hey big boy, pick up your phone

[late remnant]

yeah, he showed okay race pace in the red bull even, and he had to pick himself up after his demotion but since Monaco he's started gathering up results slowly

[tawdry jackal]

Why you no pick up da phone yo motha calling

[polar carbon]

Ofc!! Why wouldn’t I

[elfin mesa]

What if Austin Martin signs George 💀

Aston*

[tawdry jackal]

I see that as a possibility ngl

[barren rock]

who is this Diva 💅

[tawdry jackal]

If Honda has as much power as we think

[polar carbon]

They need to first either retire Alonso or get stroll outta there

[tawdry jackal]

Lance may go to WEC

[barren rock]

yeah

[radiant ice]

Me when prof let me use cheat sheet in exam

[late remnant]

easier said than done

[elfin mesa]

I think Stroll has lost every right to be in F1 and Lawrence must understand his son is hurting his business

[polar carbon]

Stroll gotta grow a few and tell his papa he doesn’t wanna race anymore and let him go

Cause he looks soo unhappy racing

[barren rock]

one more year ahh businessman

[polar carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/mickey-gif-22198885

[radiant ice]

Yes and the hate he's getting 😭

[lapis leaf]

fia- foolish idiots association

[barren rock]

i mean he is kinda deserving it

[lapis leaf]

MBS- mr bullshit

[radiant ice]

Nah man its way too much

[elfin mesa]

We need to replace MBS with Guenther Steiner

[barren rock]

bro MBS will ban you and charge you for his new car

[lapis leaf]

MBS- mild bowel syndrome

[polar carbon]

Like in driver parades bros always standing in the corner alone and even any interviews he just looks like he doesn’t wanna be there

[lapis leaf]

im not an f1 driver lmao

[elfin mesa]

14 trophies in camel racing bro

[barren rock]

ahh youre lucky then 🤣

[radiant ice]

Yo that driver parade i saw his face, man that shit hurts

[scenic spruce]

Think Hulk can get back to back podiums ?

[barren rock]

yes

[elfin mesa]

Divided by Team and driver support

United by MBS hate

[lapis leaf]

guys its about time christain horner got the boot

[wise inlet]

+a few metres driven in an f1 car before he parked a little too close to the wall

[polar carbon]

With Audi def!! Huge rule change and everyone got equal grounds

[elfin mesa]

Microscopic distance from the wall

[polar carbon]

With also Fred’s job on the line (rumours) never know if he ends up there

[late remnant]

I'm gonna put this out here

stroll genuinely isn't a bad driver. he just doesn't show it consistently, and his emotions often get in the way when he's trying to perform. there's a lot of online hate going his way because his father owns the team he drives for and competing with a 2x world champion for a teammate is a difficult task by any means.

fans like me may remember his 2017 and 2019/20 seasons which had quite a few highlights including podiums and even a pole position, which he could have converted into a win if not for a pitstop issue
most fans I encounter have not been around long enough to see stroll go on a downward spiral, they simply assume he was shit since the beginning

stroll doesn't deserve an f1 seat, but in my eyes he earned the time he has had in the sport so far, it's just time to move on now

[lapis leaf]

Like bro him staying was like Erik ten haag staying at man utd and graham potter staying at chelsea (excuse me if u dont watch football)

[scenic spruce]

I like Sauber but the Audi colour scheme im not much a fan of lol

[lapis leaf]

whys bro have to write an essay

[scenic spruce]

He had a meeting with his father and the team about his future apparently after cursing out the car

[zinc rock]

deserves an f1 seat btw

[zinc rock]

source doesnt exist

[scenic spruce]

Hence the apparently

[lapis leaf]

bro stroll wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for his dad

literally daddys money

[zinc rock]

same with almost every f1 driver?

[elfin mesa]

Stroll is definitely better than the likes of Mazepin, Lattifi or Sergeant. But not good enough to keep better drivers deprived.

[scenic spruce]

Also summer break is coming up and max can activate his leave claus

[lapis leaf]

I meant Dad

mb

[barren rock]

so far what are the biggest surprises of 2025

[elfin mesa]

That up and coming Ferrari driver, I forgot the name, got into indycar recently.

[scenic spruce]

He has glimpse of brilliance and shades of bad but most drivers do

[late remnant]

yeah

[zinc rock]

he hasnt crashed once this year btw

[scenic spruce]

Stroll being p3

[zinc rock]

beating his 2x world champion teammate this year btw

[clever wedge]

nico podium and hornexit

[barren rock]

how dare you compare Stroll to GOATIFI and SARGEANT

[scenic spruce]

See improvement

Thats good

[polar carbon]

Well time to get used to the colour scheme 😭

what even is their colour scheme?

[elfin mesa]

😭

[scenic spruce]

Red. Black with silver

[lapis leaf]

Christian horner leaving makes a perfect time for max to lave since like im pretty much him besides maybe helmut is the reason hes coping with them rn

[barren rock]

yes

[lapis leaf]

i just feel bad for george he didn’t do anything wrong and might get the boot

[stoic maple]

Von

[lapis leaf]

if ofc max agrees

[elfin mesa]

Is a mid season move possible?

[wise inlet]

I feel like max will wait and see which team does the new regs right. It's reckless to leave now

[scenic spruce]

Isnt Russel also hinting at leaving?

[lapis leaf]

thats what im wondering?

[zinc rock]

mercedes would have to pay like 100 million pounds btw

[polar carbon]

New F1 fans who have just started watching after watching the movie have just witnessed the chaos of the British Grand Prix, a Nico Hulkenberg podium and Christian Horner getting fired all in the span of 3 days

[zinc rock]

that shit aint happening

theyd have to buyout max’s contract and have max agree

[scenic spruce]

I liked the movie

Lol

[polar carbon]

He wants to stay at Merc

[barren rock]

simply the bet was that Horner was allowed to stay as team principle until Hulkenberg got podium

[zinc rock]

also max’s exit clause aint even being activated

[lapis leaf]

AY LISTEN UP BRO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/894881716341190716/1392305082074267648/Screenshot_20250708_204248_Instagram.png?ex=686fb567&is=686e63e7&hm=d31fee04e92acb241a52c9277f8fdb9a08e4abb7556d3c688b3a679dcfbf8590&

[zinc rock]

i dont think russell is outscoring him by 9 points

[barren rock]

it was very good, Brad Pitt's Charm was 🤌

[scenic spruce]

Unfortunately the contract is only as good as the paper its written on

[zinc rock]

why would russell leave merc

[radiant scarab]

Paper it's written on is great quality

[zinc rock]

keep in mind hes spent his whole career at the merc academy

[elfin mesa]

I've seen a debate where a DTS fan was calling out a f1 movie fan for getting into f1 for a film 😭

[barren rock]

Merc would boot him for Max

[zinc rock]

raced at williams from 2019-2021

[scenic spruce]

I know
Thats just the old saying in f1

[wise inlet]

Because toto wolff is helmut marco's twin brother

[scenic spruce]

Smooth operator is doing well at Williams

[radiant scarab]

This is a lie

[zinc rock]

getting beat by albon handily

[radiant scarab]

He'll be gone by 2026

[elfin mesa]

Oscar Piastri spent his life in Alpine, forgot everything when McLaren came calling

[barren rock]

hell nah Toto is actually good at his role

[barren rock]

bro which alternate universe you living in

[radiant scarab]

Mercedes has its good days and it's bad days
The good days are fantastic and the bad ones abysmal

[lapis leaf]

“Alpine still managed to find a way to fuck me after all these years huh 🥀 “

[scenic spruce]

Sainz isnt that bad if a driver

[elfin mesa]

What? Toto doesn't act like a Nazi sympathizer

[scenic spruce]

Hes better then Lawson

[radiant scarab]

Yeah but Williams is that bad of a car

[wise inlet]

True but dropping George to keep antonelli is a bit 😬

[zinc rock]

shit comp

[barren rock]

no debate man

[tired sinew]

Better then Lewis

[lapis leaf]

someone in my school did the nazi salute and got snitched on and suspended

[scenic spruce]

Whoa now lol

[radiant scarab]

Was it you
Is that why you're here instead of at school

[polar carbon]

After getting demoted from the second seat, Lawson mentally lost the will the race and you could see it in the early races.. bro was on the verge of breaking down

That second seat got him good

[zinc rock]

still better than yuki

[lapis leaf]

school holidays 😀

[barren rock]

it really isnt tho, Antonelli came this year, George is there since 21, and his contract is not renewed, so keeping George and Max in same team is a deja vu for Merc, and getting rid of Antonelli in just one year is weird

[lapis leaf]

if it was me i wouldn’t have said it in the first place😪

[scenic spruce]

Have to agree with this

Yuki would be better staying at VCARB

[zinc rock]

lawson beat yuki at vcarb in 2023

[tired sinew]

Agreed

[lapis leaf]

bro get yuki out of the rb family

[elfin mesa]

Sainz should get a good team though. His downfall was too early.

[barren rock]

if you ever doubt Sainz, remember he was the one driver in 2023 to break Red Bull's record

[zinc rock]

name a good team

[scenic spruce]

He will

[barren rock]

seriously man

[zinc rock]

that should drop a driver for sainz

[elfin mesa]

He should join the FIA workers safety union to supervise the safety of workers, especially women

[barren rock]

Mclaren

[tired sinew]

Stake f1

[zinc rock]

how

[scenic spruce]

Red bull
Someone has to replace max if he leaves

[zinc rock]

this makes the most sense unless max leaves for a top team

[elfin mesa]

Red Bull RBPT

When there will be no Horner and Max

[lapis leaf]

BUT🤓 we should consider the fact that his old boss, Laurent Mekies has now been promoted to RB team principal so maybe Yuki will find the support he deserves

[barren rock]

thats actually a good point

but then again

**Helmut Marko **

[scenic spruce]

Maybe they will finally start fixing the car

[elfin mesa]

Biggest toxic shite in RB is Helmut Marko. Kick him out, half of the problems will be solved.

[lapis leaf]

ye but laurent calls the shots

now he does

[wise inlet]

Agh man I don't know 😮‍💨
Seeing how well George is performing dropping him for max who btw, will need the car probably completely remade to fit his driving style in order to deliver better than George.. then their rising star antonelli has to suffer with max's car

[lapis leaf]

next year 🔥

[wise inlet]

Is kinda strange

[barren rock]

if you have a problem, change your f*cking team principle

[twin gazelle]

how true is that Jos and Horner had a (for a lack of better word) fight in the Austrian/Silverstone GP?

[lapis leaf]

bro lowk Helmut reminds me of Trump they’re both old and racist and have high authority

[barren rock]

next year is a big big regulation change, they still got time, and i dont think Max will influence it that much.

Max just keeps tuning the car to become more and more pointy, and ofc the team will go for the more performing driver.

[elfin mesa]

A very good team principal that I miss is Maurizzio Arrivabene. Bro was low-key chill. And sounded like a philosopher.

[scenic spruce]

Apparently Aston is ment to be more serious next year

[lapis leaf]

bruh i cant wait for fernando to start cooking again

[polar carbon]

When Crofty was asked.. they didn’t give him any reasons 😭

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[wise inlet]

Personally, I think max will go to Aston martin

But later some time in next year

[scenic spruce]

That would be interesting

[tired sinew]

Will Aston live up to him

[barren rock]

only time will tell

[elfin mesa]

The Adrian Newey pull is insane

[scenic spruce]

Imagine Alonso and Verstappen on the same team lol

[lapis leaf]

its cuz of the money im betting

[elfin mesa]

Newey doing overtime alone in the AM factory

[barren rock]

Adrian Newey + Max = SHEER DOMINATION

[wise inlet]

And they're willing to pay billions to have max...

[scenic spruce]

Newey did design the best Red Bull cars so Aston will benefit from it

[wise inlet]

But idk if they'll replace Ayrton stroll

[lapis leaf]

bro if max goes to Aston martin kicking lance stroll out it will be max and Fernando which is hella op plus with the Adrian Newey’s smarts 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶

[barren rock]

problem there is Lance Stroll

[wise inlet]

Or wait till alonso retires

[zinc rock]

max isnt going to aston unless alonso retires

max/lance is the perfect driver lineup

[elfin mesa]

Imagining Max and Alonso as teammates is crazy already

[barren rock]

he will if Lance leaves

[tired sinew]

Really??

[zinc rock]

Horner reveals Alonso held Red Bull F1 switch talks in 2024 https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/horner-reveals-alonso-held-red-bull-switch-talks/10666816/

[wise inlet]

I have a feeling they're willing to give our hero a break if max agrees

[lapis leaf]

bruh can aston martin throw a rebellion against Lance’s dad to kick him and his son out

[zinc rock]

he backed out because he realized theyd fuck eachother over every race!

[fossil bridge]

Max might. He's definitely not staying at rb

[zinc rock]

no?

hey check the standings mate

[lapis leaf]

besides if that wont work Lance won’t be racing due to his injuries

[barren rock]

i dont think Max will deny an Adrian-designed F1 car

[zinc rock]

hes beating his teammate while hurt?

says a lot about alonso

[scenic spruce]

Dont really have to do that
Stroll's wrists might not hold up

[zinc rock]

stroll’s wrists are just fine

why would he be racing if they weren’t

[lapis leaf]

bro its so unfair how Canada has the beat drivers such as villeneuve, Nicholas Latifi 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 and Lance Stroll🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵

[fossil bridge]

Alonso really is the better out of the two dudes just old

[tired sinew]

There is no team out there that give favouritism like rb for max

[scenic spruce]

How do think Australia feels lol the only decents ones are Webber and Piastri

[zinc rock]

ricciardo??

[lapis leaf]

we are all jealous of the uk 🥀

[fossil bridge]

No favouritism last rb second seat that could drive was Webber

[barren rock]

Max doesnt need that, he isnt getting that anyways

[lapis leaf]

ricciardo or max back in 2018?

[zinc rock]

JACK BRABHAM??

[wise inlet]

Here's a plan for Mr Lawrence My Child deserves an F1 seat Stroll:

1. Replace lance with max
2. Build a dominant car and perform well in a season or two
3. Alonso retires
4. Put Ayrton Stroll back in the dominant car
5. Stroll vs verstappen rivalry

[scenic spruce]

I love the honet badger but he wasnt the best towards the end

[zinc rock]

JACK BRABHAM THE 3X WORLD CHAMPION

[tired sinew]

I mean max as priority

[fossil bridge]

Second seat. Also Riccardo could drive well.

[scenic spruce]

Perez did a pretty good job

[barren rock]

i think hes proven himself for that

[fossil bridge]

He had his moments but was inconsistent and pretty useless

[scenic spruce]

You right i forgot about Jack

[tired sinew]

2023 was good enough for second seat

[zinc rock]

alan jones won a title

[scenic spruce]

He did better then Lawson and Yuki

[stoic maple]

Police steady watching me

[fossil bridge]

That's not hard to do

[barren rock]

you have billions of budget, you have the best of the best designer for your team, you have enough money to hire a driver with 4 championships, who has broken the most insane records, why wouldnt you make him your top driver?

[tired sinew]

Red alert

[scenic spruce]

Thats fair

[fossil bridge]

Yuki's just who knows. Lawson was just not a good choice to begin with

[zinc rock]

why wouldnt you keep the driver whos younger and scored more points for your team?

[tired sinew]

Yea other teams won’t do that

Like Ferrari

[barren rock]

Max is fairly young and promises not just points but podiums and wins, why wouldnt you take him?

[fossil bridge]

vettle max Riccardo Webber r they only good F1 RB drivers

[barren rock]

i can understand why Mclaren and Ferrari arent doing it, but wb other teams?

[zinc rock]

so fire alonso for max

[scenic spruce]

Ferrari does have the goat Leclerc

[zinc rock]

if you want max that bad

[scenic spruce]

And also Lewis

[fossil bridge]

Fire stroll for max

[zinc rock]

instead of keeping a guy who is probably gonna retire next year

[fossil bridge]

Yep

[wise inlet]

1. Replace lance with max
2. Build a dominant car and perform well in a season or two
3. Alonso retires
4. Put Ayrton Stroll back in the dominant car
5. Stroll vs verstappen rivalry

[zinc rock]

stroll is beating alonso this year

and is way younger

[scenic spruce]

Lance could retire yet we dont know

[barren rock]

if i have the option to fire stroll then why?

[fossil bridge]

No no no no no and no

[neat latch]

WHAT THE FUCK

[zinc rock]

hes not retiring

[fossil bridge]

Likely

[lost crane]

perhaps

[fossil bridge]

He might

[neat latch]

WHAT DID I WAKE UP TO

[scenic spruce]

He could

[tired sinew]

Wat other teams r there at that level in the current grid

[zinc rock]

because hes younger and has been better this year

[lost crane]

His futur is not certain

[zinc rock]

how

[tacit hare]

aston has a wec team

[barren rock]

just this year right?

theres a fricking 2x world champion sitting there, but the team isnt giving him the chance

[tacit hare]

more suited for that

[lost crane]

Shareholder tired of Lance + his wrist injury

[barren rock]

Mercedes, next year AM?

[fossil bridge]

Dudes had a decent run got a podium. Lots of race starts. And with his rist being a ticking time bomb it is not impossible

[neat latch]

Chat can someone explain to me WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING

[scenic spruce]

His wrists mostly yeah

[barren rock]

chaos

[fossil bridge]

How bout we read gng

You have eyes

[tired sinew]

Lol

[zinc rock]

stroll beating a 4x world champion at aston

[neat latch]

I know how to read what surprises me is that christian horner is gone

Like immediately

[fossil bridge]

...... There's no way

[tired sinew]

Yea bud

[barren rock]

yes because stroll is the most pampered guy on the grid, HIS DAD OWNS THE TEAM MY GUY

[zinc rock]

??

excuses

youre mad stroll was better than vettel in 2021-2022

[tired sinew]

Dude u a stroll fan ???

[acoustic hornet]

bottasstwerk

[zinc rock]

yes?

[scenic spruce]

Stroll doing well this year

I like Lance too

[fossil bridge]

Vettles luck was just bad that season. And vettle was Way more consistent. And how about we mention vettles RB days and Ferrari days so just pipe down

[barren rock]

so youre saying Lance Stroll is more skilled than 4 time world champion who defeated multiple other champions in his prime

[zinc rock]

so its about luck

[barren rock]

that isnt an excuse thats a fact

[fossil bridge]

In that year yes

[fossil bridge]

Vettle is 100x times the driver than stroll will ever be

[barren rock]

if he doesnt get proper treament, his dad will literally fire the employees

[scenic spruce]

Max is the reason Lewis isnt a 8 time champion

[zinc rock]

from 2020-2022 yes

[barren rock]

exactly

[fossil bridge]

Nope

[barren rock]

how did Max and Lewis come here?

[tired sinew]

Bruh

[barren rock]

that makes 0 sense

[fossil bridge]

Let's go back to his RB days lil bro

[zinc rock]

makes all the sense

[zinc rock]

he wasnt at red bull in 2020 2021 or 2022

[tired sinew]

Bro is trolling

[zinc rock]

thats irrelevant

[barren rock]

alr keep dreaming

[fossil bridge]

Wait who has 4 world championships?

That's right

[barren rock]

ikr 🤣

[fossil bridge]

It's vettle

[scenic spruce]

Max

[fossil bridge]

Cough new gen cough

[barren rock]

according to @zinc rock Lance stroll

[fossil bridge]

Fr

[zinc rock]

who got beat by their ferrari teammate in their first year at the team?

[barren rock]

"because it makes all the sense"

[zinc rock]

sebastian vettel

[tired sinew]

If stroll was that good where is podiums

[zinc rock]

show the message i said this

[tired sinew]

Where is the points

[barren rock]

see you literally pointed it out, first year

[dense herald]

ITS FAKE I MADE IT

[zinc rock]

2017 baku in his 8th race of his career

[barren rock]

first year is no one's year in a new team

[zinc rock]

2020 monza

2020 sakhir

[tired sinew]

2017

[barren rock]

talk about irony

[tired sinew]

We r in 2025

[zinc rock]

charles leclerc’s year

[barren rock]

🤣🤣🤣

[zinc rock]

the car is shit

[barren rock]

bros onto nothing here

[fossil bridge]

4 time World Champion, 53 wins, 122 podiums, 57 pole positions, 291 entries

[zinc rock]

alonsos still better than him btw

[craggy zenith]

Dude was still washed by the time Leclerc came in

like you can't argue that, he 100% already checked out

[barren rock]

ahh shifting the conversation now

[scenic spruce]

Stroll has more then hulkenberg

[barren rock]

bro thinks hes slick

[zinc rock]

my arguement is that stroll was better than vettel from 2020-2021-2022

[craggy zenith]

Dude was in a Pink Mercedes, and still lost to his teammate

who need i remind you, won a race in it

[fossil bridge]

He got out of his grove dosent ignore the fact he's better than all the drivers on the current grid except max and the McLaren boys

[craggy zenith]

Lol no

[fossil bridge]

Lol yes

[craggy zenith]

yeah okay

explain Ricciardo

[zinc rock]

HE THINKS SEB WOULD BE BETTER THAN LECLERC RN

AND HAMILTON

THATS ACTUALLY HILARIOUS

[barren rock]

Seb can totally defeat him

[fossil bridge]

Yep

[barren rock]

he did defeat hamilton?

[zinc rock]

Just like how he did in 2019?

[fossil bridge]

In his prime effortlessly

[zinc rock]

12 years ago?

[barren rock]

2010-2014 of dominance?

[fossil bridge]

Now probably

[fossil bridge]

Exactly

[zinc rock]

Now lets show 2017 and 2018?

[barren rock]

bro ignore this guy, DTS fans smh

[fossil bridge]

Pmo so bad

[zinc rock]

ive been watching f1 longer than you have been alive

[ashen inlet]

horner out of rb this is gonna be funny

[craggy zenith]

2017 was still good tho

the Asian leg wasn't his fault

[barren rock]

funny of you to assume im 3 years old rofl

[fossil bridge]

Buddy watched 1 race and thinks he'd a fan

[zinc rock]

i actually watched vettel win a title

[barren rock]

ok?

great?

[fossil bridge]

And that's why Wes better than all the drivers on the current grid

[zinc rock]

ragebait

[barren rock]

you are the ragebait lmfao

[scenic spruce]

I saw most of schumachers career lol

[fossil bridge]

Only 3 drivers on the grid have a wdc only 1 has more than vettle r we joking rn

[lapis leaf]

oh hi guys im back now

[tired sinew]

Damn

[barren rock]

@fossil bridge leave it bro, this guy just wants to prove that Vettel is trash

[zinc rock]

because he was so mid

[barren rock]

bro doesnt have a job

[zinc rock]

in 2020 2021 and 2022

[zinc rock]

i literally do

[fossil bridge]

I don't see you in an f1 car do i

[scenic spruce]

Give max time and he'll tie the score lol 😆

[craggy zenith]

the idea that he's better than Hamilton or Alonso is laughable

given the two of them are still here

[fossil bridge]

R we talking about there prime or current

[zinc rock]

honestly lets talk about both

[craggy zenith]

Both

[zinc rock]

because both of them in their prime are better than prime seb

[craggy zenith]

because you can't argue Vettel deserved 2010 more than Alonso or even Webber

[zinc rock]

both of them right now are better than current seb

[craggy zenith]

He didn't lead the championship once until Abu Dhabi

[fossil bridge]

Prime vettle blows them out of the water now because vettle Hasant touched a F1 car in years them

[zinc rock]

this makes literally no sense

[fossil bridge]

Literally does

Seb is the better drive

More consistent

More charming

More dominant

[zinc rock]

give me 1 stat that seb is better at than hamilton go

[barren rock]

Vettel beat Micheal Schumacher, Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Raikonnen, Jenson Button, Mark Webber in the championship

[zinc rock]

1 stat go

[scenic spruce]

He could make a comeback if he wanted probably
Alonso did

[zinc rock]

1 stat go

[fossil bridge]

Constiency

[craggy zenith]

Michael was like 300 years old when he came back

[barren rock]

how many did stroll beat, i forgot he doesnt have any

[zinc rock]

wrong hamilton’s average finishing position is the best in f1 history

[barren rock]

still bro a champ is a champ

[fossil bridge]

How many has the current grid beaten ?

[fossil bridge]

Let's talk about his to 2010-2014

[tired sinew]

Is he talking about stroll and who ??

[barren rock]

diverting topic 🤣

[fossil bridge]

Vettle

[zinc rock]

that stat shows consistency

[barren rock]

hes saying Stroll>Vettel

[scenic spruce]

Hamilton isn't doing that well with Ferrari

[fossil bridge]

That stat is inflated

[craggy zenith]

You do realise most of the current grid were children in 2010? How is that even relevant?

[tired sinew]

Agreed

[fossil bridge]

Hamilton got over taken by a kick saber mate pipe down

[main cradle]

Deserves a ban tbh 😭

[fossil bridge]

Fr

[tired sinew]

Bro is getting the Ferrari treatment

[zinc rock]

ok so lets talk about vettel’s 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2014

[scenic spruce]

The ferrari experience

[craggy zenith]

And Michael also lost to Rosberg in all 3 years of his Merc stint

[halcyon mural]

Yo guys what happen with horner?

[craggy zenith]

You wouldn't argue Nico is better than Michael would you?

[barren rock]

sacked

[fossil bridge]

Constiency in 2018 and for there on he's still better than the bottom ten current drivers

[scenic spruce]

He got Das Boot

[tired sinew]

Kicked out for being horney

[zinc rock]

consistency is bottling the title

[barren rock]

nope, thats exactly whats going on here

[craggy zenith]

yes beacuse when i think of 2018, i think of his consistantcy and not Hockenheim

[fossil bridge]

Consitancy is finishing top 5 most races

[barren rock]

hes saying stroll is better

[zinc rock]

you said vettel is more consistent than hamilton

buddy

hamilton finished on the podium when finishing a race

[fossil bridge]

In 2010-2014 r we special

[zinc rock]

im pretty sure every single race from 2014-2018

[zinc rock]

you never said that

[barren rock]

forget hamilton, he definiteley was better thn stroll is

[craggy zenith]

The point is it's irrelevant, because then Nico is on an even higher calibre than Seb, because Nico did it in the same car

[fossil bridge]

Nah really

[scenic spruce]

His british gp podium streak was broken

[fossil bridge]

Ferrari has gone done it again

[craggy zenith]

bro did not watch 2014

[zinc rock]

alonso nearly beat seb with what wouldve been the worst car to ever win a championship

[craggy zenith]

Just quickly, who finished 3rd in 2014 again?

[zinc rock]

LMFAO HE SAID 2014

[craggy zenith]

I would give you 2015

but you didn't say 2015 you said 2014

[barren rock]

what are u trying to prove buddy

[fossil bridge]

So

[scenic spruce]

Hulkenberg beat most the grid with considerably the worse car

[fossil bridge]

Top 5

[craggy zenith]

While his teammate is P3

[tired sinew]

Facts

[zinc rock]

😭

[craggy zenith]

and the only other person not in a Mercedes to win a race

[zinc rock]

thats like me saying lance stroll top 10 in 2023 when his teammate is p3

[fossil bridge]

Daniel Riccardo is good driver dude

[tired sinew]

Where was stroll ???

[zinc rock]

not in f1??

[neat latch]

Anyway this whole thing means Red Bull is beyond fucked at this point like

[zinc rock]

he was 15??

[craggy zenith]

Yes, who fell off much like Vettel did

[barren rock]

**very **good

[craggy zenith]

doesn't change the fact he beat his 4x WDC teammate the first year at Red Bull

[scenic spruce]

They all fall to Max eventually

[fossil bridge]

Ragebaiter

[fossil bridge]

Vettle didnt

[craggy zenith]

says the guy who thinks Vettel could beat most of the current grid

[fossil bridge]

Really can

But

Ok

[scenic spruce]

Was Vettle a team mate of max ?

[craggy zenith]

No he couldn't

[zinc rock]

explains why ricciardo lost to lawson

[craggy zenith]

Otherwise why the fuck did he retire

[zinc rock]

and yuki

[craggy zenith]

he wouldn't have if he could win

[fossil bridge]

That's why he couldn't fall to him see 🙏

[craggy zenith]

that was literally the reason he gave for quiting

[fossil bridge]

We r brain-dead

[scenic spruce]

You right

[fossil bridge]

See he gets it

[zinc rock]

in 2023 lawson had better results than yuki while racing together

yuki had better results than ricciardo

[fossil bridge]

R we like stupid

[zinc rock]

stats say im correct

[craggy zenith]

He literally did

2024 was much closer

[scenic spruce]

Yeah

[fossil bridge]

So?

[craggy zenith]

but he straight up did better as a rookie than Tsunoda was

[fossil bridge]

He's still the better driver

Remind me who has a multiple race wins?

[flint anvil]

Me

[zinc rock]

essentially all of those were 8 years ago

[fossil bridge]

Get out

[craggy zenith]

If he was that good, Daniel wouldn't have been sacked from McLaren

if you can't drive the car, you can't drive the car

[zinc rock]

they paid 13 million dollars to fire him

[fossil bridge]

Yo please pipe down

[tired sinew]

Then currently does stroll have a win ??

[zinc rock]

can’t handle people criticizing his points

[craggy zenith]

Brother i'm australian, if anyone would be defending Daniel it should be me

doesn't change the reality of his situation

[zinc rock]

no

[fossil bridge]

What r you in about

[zinc rock]

alonso’s last win was 12 years ago btw

[craggy zenith]

it was his own damn fault

[fossil bridge]

No it's not

[craggy zenith]

I mean, McHonda and all

[fossil bridge]

Ragebaiter

[zinc rock]

lance has had a shitbox his whole career besides 2 years

[craggy zenith]

and he still lost to his teammate in both those years, easily

[zinc rock]

2.5 actually

[zinc rock]

2017

46-43 on points

[lost crane]

https://tenor.com/view/lance-stroll-crash-gif-9852881662164278956

[fossil bridge]

Still slow now 1 good result doesn't make you better than vettle

[zinc rock]

2020

[lost crane]

respect my goat lil bro

[craggy zenith]

I'm sorry you're trying to claim Felipe Massa was a top 5 driver?

[lost crane]

Stroll has more points than both Villeneuve

[zinc rock]

he scored 1 more pole and more podiums than perez

[lost crane]

Also Alonso is like the best rookie, so you gotta give him that

not easy for Stroll

[fossil bridge]

There turning on eachother

[craggy zenith]

Perez won a fucking race

[zinc rock]

according to the other idiot in chat he thinks winning a title or a race automatically makes you better than the entire grid forever even if you are 90
years old

[zinc rock]

im not bringing up the luck arguement

stroll was so unlucky the 2nd half of 2020

he was running p4 in the wdc prior to mugello

[scenic spruce]

2023 he won didn't he ?

[zinc rock]

when his tyre blew out

[zinc rock]

no

[fossil bridge]

Vettle is wayy better than stroll and perez

[pastel steppe]

he probably got fired so he could be the next fia president

[craggy zenith]

that was bad luck

[tired sinew]

Bro made the clam guy rage

[craggy zenith]

the rest wasn't

[scenic spruce]

You right that was a podium my mistake

[fossil bridge]

Bad luck 💔

[zinc rock]

stroll 2021 baku

potential podium

tyre blowout

[scenic spruce]

Stroll did get pole position once

[zinc rock]

alonso literally said

stroll has shit luck

[craggy zenith]

Felipe was a decent driver, but nowhere near Hamilton or Alonso. The fact he was beating Raikkonen in 2008 was down to Raikkonen having a very narrow adaptability window, and this is all prior to his 2009 accident

he was just never the same after that

[fossil bridge]

It's his team mate he isn't gonna say I hope he loses

[zinc rock]

stroll is the last non mclaren red bull mercedes or ferrari driver to get a pole

[craggy zenith]

He also had been beaten consistantly by bottas the last 3 years so

not a massive achievement

[zinc rock]

speaking of teammates

[craggy zenith]

also, Massa very nearly won in Baku

[zinc rock]

2013 malaysian gp

[craggy zenith]

I mean, Webber can take a hand of blame for that because he chose to not fight it

[fossil bridge]

So

[craggy zenith]

Vettel did literally just break team orders though

[fossil bridge]

Won the race didn't he

Did Webber?

No

[craggy zenith]

Fuck NO

Where do you think Multi 2-1 comes from?

[zinc rock]

just like how leclerc had more wins than vettel in 2019

[craggy zenith]

the whole issue was because Vettel broke team orders and overtook him

[fossil bridge]

Old man Vs young rookie 💔

[scenic spruce]

To be fair Vettle is right tho when he says we are racing

[fossil bridge]

Webber didn't defend

[craggy zenith]

which again, Webber has a hand in because he should've just turned his engine up

[fossil bridge]

It's a race

It's a race

It's a RACE

[craggy zenith]

I wonder why

maybe because the team told the two of them to hold station

and Vettel just decided not to

[scenic spruce]

They were racing

You shouldn't expect your team mate to not over take you

[craggy zenith]

Last i checked, they don't pay themselves

the team does

hence, team orders usually trump any self belief in racing

[tired sinew]

Didn’t mac do the same last year for lando and Oscar

[scenic spruce]

Arent they banned now tho?

[zinc rock]

just like how ricciardo had more wins than seb who was coming off 4 world championships

[zinc rock]

they were but now they arent

[craggy zenith]

they were only ever banned because of Austria 2002

[fossil bridge]

Does Riccardo have a wdc💔

Let alone 4

[snow swan]

Apparently Verstappen did not pressure the board to kick Horner

[craggy zenith]

and then Alonso made the ban irrelivant

[zinc rock]

ricciardo never even had the car for a wdc

[tired sinew]

No

[snow swan]

WDC in similing

[craggy zenith]

Okay that's like arguing why Stroll doesn't have one

or why 90% of the grid doesn't

[fossil bridge]

Wdc at heart is trhe

[scenic spruce]

Well theres gonna be 4 world champions on the grid soon

[fossil bridge]

They aren't good enough drivers

[craggy zenith]

Pick Max in a Haas and see if he wins a title

[tired sinew]

Who do u mean ??

[zinc rock]

stirling moss

[scenic spruce]

Piastri or Norris is probably winning this year

[fossil bridge]

Put Hamilton in a Ferrari see if he wins a title. Oh wait🙏

[zinc rock]

you just proved his point

[scenic spruce]

Would he funny if he won races in a haas

[tired sinew]

Hey this season aura farming

2026

[scenic spruce]

Hulkenberg got a tractor to p3

[craggy zenith]

Dude even Max isn't winning in that Ferrari

it actually sucks this year

last year they threw their chance

[polar carbon]

Is the summer break happening rn? Or is it just a really long break between races

[fossil bridge]

Cry

He's washed

[craggy zenith]

After Belgium

[zinc rock]

just like seb

[tired sinew]

Stroll better the vettel

[craggy zenith]

Okay, so why isn't Leclerc leading the championship if the car is apparently good enough

[scenic spruce]

And Max's exit claus can be activated

[polar carbon]

That has nothing to do with what I asked gang 😭

[tired sinew]

That’s the whole argument here man

[fossil bridge]

Just like stroll

[scenic spruce]

That scene from rush seems to discribe it well lol

[polar carbon]

Hungary is right after Belgium though

[fossil bridge]

Ragebaiter

[zinc rock]

ah yes

[craggy zenith]

my bad lol

[tired sinew]

Is there an exit clause??

[craggy zenith]

after Hungary

[polar carbon]

ahh okay yeah!!

[craggy zenith]

i keep forgetting it was swapped

[zinc rock]

26 year old man who has never been in a title competing car

whos also beating his 2x world champion teammate

is “washed”

[scenic spruce]

Apparently max has one
And drivers can actually switch teams mid season

Theres no rule against it

[zinc rock]

no driver below lance in the standings is putting 20 points in that aston and most arent putting 10

[craggy zenith]

isn't this the same guy who is being consistantly outqualifyed since the middle of last year

[fossil bridge]

44💔

[zinc rock]

strolls not a quali driver

[craggy zenith]

that's not what you all said after Turkey 2020

[polar carbon]

Isnt his like if you drop below P4 or something..

[zinc rock]

he can be good in quali depending on the setup, weather, and car

like most drivers

[craggy zenith]

ah so only in the perfect situation

[scenic spruce]

I believe so

[craggy zenith]

which happens at the same rate hell freezes over

[tired sinew]

Its P3

[zinc rock]

even so, stroll’s races are still good

he makes up places almost every race

especially on the starts

he never really gets a good strategy

[scenic spruce]

True

[zinc rock]

team hasn’t attempted an undercut all year besides silverstone

the astons tyre deg is shit

[rocky gust]

Easy to make up places when you under qualify the car lol

[scenic spruce]

If russel wins the next race he could knock max to 4th

[sour plaza]

i woke up to the best news.. the signature in the fall of RBR.

[zinc rock]

well, hes outscoring alonso this year

despite being beat in quali

[tired sinew]

It would have happened at silverstone

[fossil bridge]

He's pushing 50 give him a break

[feral herald]

Lets hope helmut does not also complete this season 🙏

[scenic spruce]

Russel is 18 points behind Max

[tired sinew]

Oh no

[rocky gust]

I mean Alonso’s 43

[tawdry jackal]

Hear me out yall Christian Horner to Alpine

[craggy zenith]

Better than the living tumor they have at the moment

[scenic spruce]

You get 25 if you win isnt it?

[craggy zenith]

also i think they just got a new TP who's actually pretty good

[tawdry jackal]

True my point it’s 2 cancers on 1 team

[rocky gust]

Christian Horner to sexual harassment counseling

[tired sinew]

It’s 28 right ???

[craggy zenith]

I forget who it is they have no but he's a long timer in the sport

[tawdry jackal]

Flavio

[fossil bridge]

Stroll does something 1 race then disappears for a year.

[tawdry jackal]

Brigotore

[magic dew]

exactly

[scenic spruce]

25 or 28 points if you win a gp so yeah if russels wins at Belgium he could push max down to 4th

[tired sinew]

Yep

[scenic spruce]

Depending on on where max finishes

[lapis leaf]

bro how tf yall still online🙏🏻

[magic dew]

different timezones?

[scenic spruce]

Me?

[lapis leaf]

idk where u live

[scenic spruce]

Im in Australia its 10pm here lol

[lapis leaf]

bruh u live in WA

i see

[magic dew]

who

[tired sinew]

It’s 7 40 in India

[scenic spruce]

Yep

[lapis leaf]

i livein VIC

so its midnight here rn

[scenic spruce]

Oh cool

[craggy zenith]

nah they have someone new apparently

[worthy pelican]

Lucky u live WA

[craggy zenith]

Flavio is still there

[magic dew]

what

[scenic spruce]

Flavio left Alpine ?

[lapis leaf]

i gotta go to the albert park on the f1 weekend

im so happy

[scenic spruce]

I am?

[craggy zenith]

Steve Nielsen that's it

[worthy pelican]

No lmao I was jk

[craggy zenith]

no he's the CEO

[tired sinew]

I am not saying that

[scenic spruce]

I plan to one day

[lapis leaf]

bro its dessert and crime there if im being completely honest

[worthy pelican]

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