monaco-gp

[marble ocean]

from post race interview he said he felt there was no harm in asking

[twin glade]

He was

[grim anvil]

yes, with Lando 5 seconds ahead of him after they both pitted lol

[errant shadow]

Let's see

Russia 2021
All of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/1hf1n3m/every_single_lap_1_bottle_from_norris_this_year/
Canada 2025

[snow swan]

Yeah ridiculous imo

[static field]

Bro just had his exams give him some time to recover

[mellow sun]

What's Russia 2021 gotta do with this?

[mild ginkgo]

is tsunoda gonna slam into someone every race now?

[storm needle]

car is uncontrollable man

its not like hes tryna do it

[snow swan]

You asked…?

[grim anvil]

he's doing everything he can to get the fuck outta that seat

[static field]

Lando fumbled

[wise inlet]

Oscar pulled a lando today, his emotions took over and he did and said some crazy things

[errant shadow]

I am saying Lando seems to be consistent at bottling it

And 2021 is a clear example of a massive Lando bottle

[pseudo quail]

Last weekend was a floor. They’re doing a filming day in a few days or weeks to test a suspension before Spa. And probably a new floor to match the suspension after that but not 100% sure on it. They just keep hiding things from the press but somehow the press still find out these issues

[mellow sun]

I'm asking what it meant

I didn't see it

[twin glade]

Piastri even admitted that he didn't think it was a fair ask to make, but did it anyway... Which is interesting, seeing as how against he was of team orders just a month ago, but I digress

[storm needle]

he'll learn

[twin glade]

Ohhh! I see, thank you!

[grim anvil]

lando just got b2b wins in the last two races and we're bringing up bottling

what the fuck are we talking about man

[pseudo quail]

Champagne bottle

[storm needle]

aight

[snow swan]

Definitely. Going from 200 to 52 in an instant in conditions where tou could barely see was dangerous and could lead to so many collisions lol. Crazy that some people were saying it was biased? It was so dangerous.

[storm needle]

they r in a rocketship

[mellow sun]

I do think he's worse off the start

[storm needle]

i mean i support lando n all but it's not like people can't talk abt his bottling

[mellow sun]

Piastri's a better starter imo

[storm needle]

lando's starts have been pretty good this year

[snow swan]

Mclaren is in a league of their own atm

[pseudo quail]

Both lando and Piastri are unpolished drivers and would lose to Russell or max without the rocketship

[mellow sun]

Not saying he's the worst, I just think Piastri's better at it

[stiff bough]

Tellin you, F1 fans are genuinely the most miserable sacks of shit ever. Not a single bone in their body that wants to just enjoy the show they get to see, just hate and hate and hate

[mellow sun]

Wdym? I thought I was having a regular discussion

[static field]

What

[junior granite]

rule 1 🤓

[indigo ravine]

I won’t lie max is lapping everyone if he were in a McLaren

[mild ginkgo]

oh i enjoy max spinning like a rookie and tsunoda finishing last every race xd

[errant shadow]

The problem is, Lando has good days sure, lets not deny that. But the thing is, when it all seems to come together for a perfect race streak, he'll perform a bottle

[grim anvil]

Like I genuinely don't get it. I'm not saying praise the guy and kiss his feet every time but my god man talk about something else ATLEAST.

[marble ocean]

Max in a Mclaren is 2023 on repeat

[stiff bough]

If you’re confused about what I said it’s probably not directed to you.

[twin glade]

Yeah no, people are still saying that Lando is prone to bottling his poles when his pole-to-win ratio is almost 70%

[static field]

If everyone supports everyone whats the point of watching

[storm needle]

he sold imola

[wise inlet]

Yeah.... I'm wondering why he did it though 🤔

[mellow sun]

Idk, I think they're close enough that you can't say either is objectively better

Which is why I said I personally think Lando is better

[marble ocean]

according to his post race interview, he said he breaked right as the green flag waved, catching him off guard

[snow swan]

There was litch no rzn to lol

[twin glade]

Wasn't Nico saying in the CD that it almost caused him to crash too? Super dangerous

[pseudo quail]

Exactly it’s what both mclarens should’ve done, not give max two wins

[frosty jackal]

NO FUCKING WAY! HULKENBERG ON PODIUM?!?! 😱

[grim anvil]

it's like beating a dead horse to the point where its just bones left

[mild ginkgo]

piastri is better at handling verstappen, too bad verstappen doesn t matter anymore xd

[wise inlet]

Are we braking on green flags now?

[marble ocean]

no, im saying he breaked by coincidence right as green flagged

to keep away from the safety car

[wise inlet]

I... don't know how to read this

[snow swan]

Yup, everyone had to slow down and it cooled down ppls tires a lot.

[storm needle]

he just got pole

man

[mellow sun]

I think Verstappen this race was getting pressured from front and back and just fumbled under the extra pressure the brake-checking caused

[static field]

His pole count is so smol it makes the percentage look bigger

[marble ocean]

Verstappen and RB gambled on there being no rain and lost, that's all there is to it really

[mellow sun]

Unfortunate but he managed to control it

[errant shadow]

Tbh, safety car restarts can be pure chaos sometimes

I'm looking at you Mugello 2020

[storm needle]

it wasn't a fumble his tires were cooked from that

[marble ocean]

on a dry day Verstappen may have won the entire thing

[grim anvil]

smol pole

[snow swan]

Verstappen had a shitbox and hella dirty air, made handling harder

[twin glade]

I mean, people form opinions, often based on memes or what commentators casually say, and then they never challenge those opinions at any point after that 😅😅 it's so silly, esp in F1, where a lot of relevant data is VERY readily available

[storm needle]

nope ☠️

mclaren's too fast

[mellow sun]

Well yea that probably didn't help, but he clearly tried to rush off after Piastri on the start and spun out

[storm needle]

tires were cool

[wise inlet]

Ohhh.. I actually don't know the procedure.. like after the safety car are they meant to instantly send it on green flag or there's a delay?

[mellow sun]

Norris and Hulk had to break from it too and they didn't spin out

[errant shadow]

Yeah... no, this car is the complete opposite of the RB19

[pseudo quail]

The commentators did point out Piastri pulling this move before to cool max’s tires before launching off

[storm needle]

it's the lead drivers choice but they have to get on with it

[errant shadow]

The brake check was Oscar's fault but Max's spin was his own fault

[twin glade]

I wouldn't say that when Charles' win to pole is 19%...

[fervent wind]

did he slide after the safety car was over because of his tires?

[storm needle]

prolly just shows hes a great qualifier even when there's a bad car

[errant shadow]

Charles would have a much higher pole to win if it wasn't for ferrari strat

[wise inlet]

LOL I wonder where stroll was when it happened... surprised he didn't hit the 5 cars in front of him

[stiff bough]

He had great qualifying cars

[mellow sun]

Yea but I feel like Max should've been aware of that and was just distracted

[storm needle]

he slid because of the weird break from piastri causing him to have a terrible start

[stiff bough]

Just sucked in the races

[storm needle]

piastri suddenly braked, waited for verstappen to respond, and immediately started

verstappen couldnt rlly do shit

[cobalt dagger]

in the last 4 races Hulkenberg has scored more points than Max

[snow swan]

His tires were cool and his car obviously didnt respond kindl

[indigo ravine]

No Oscar would then hypothetically be the sc and from there its up to the driver behind to time his departure

[fervent wind]

i wasn't sure if it was because of that or not but piastri's brake annoyed me

[storm needle]

yea

[storm needle]

idk what piastri was thinking

[mellow sun]

Could've started more carefully

[storm needle]

lowk is a good strat

[storm needle]

how man

[pseudo quail]

I think it’s probably that the visibility was low + max and the rest were just reacting to the green flags. Piastri basically stopping was quite unexpected.m

[storm needle]

he got cooked from the sudden brake

[mellow sun]

Not speeding off after a very clearly ahead Piastri

[fervent wind]

It looked bad I gasped out loud

[wise inlet]

Ohhh... wow.. so it could've been mind games then

[storm needle]

??

[snow swan]

What..? 😭😭 its called racing..

[junior granite]

having a bad start would definitely lose him less positions than that spin did

[storm needle]

yes it was completely intentional

[wise inlet]

Makes sense.. thanks guys

[storm needle]

he's done it before, last time he did it it was much cleaner

and worked really well

this time it worked ☠️ but it was blatantly obvious and excessive

[snow swan]

George russell also tried it

Just sidnt break as hard

[storm needle]

he was baiting penalty points rather than a messed up restart though

[static field]

Charles has a load of poles yes but ferr has never been a the dominant car on sundays

[mellow sun]

I'm saying if he realized his tires were fucked, he could have gone a bit slower to make sure he didn't spin out. Maybe lost one or two spots, made them back up. Instead he sped ahead and spun out

[junior granite]

and in good conditions

[snow swan]

I meant both times they tried to catch max out

[fervent wind]

Very subtle compared to Piastri

[snow swan]

Whatever way it was

[twin glade]

Yeah, piastri effectively stopped in the middle of the track, but I couldn't really hear his reasoning behind that decision in the CD room

[storm needle]

everything happened within a couple seconds, i bet he was confused

[pseudo quail]

Piastri was doing the braking on other laps too, same corner behind the safety car. It might be he was caught off guard by the SC ending right there but he probably was also trying to use it as a tactic

[fervent wind]

Something about the lights on the safety car but idk

[mellow sun]

Yea that's what I'm saying, he was pressured the whole race, got a bit shook from the incident and sped off

I don't blame him but there was a way out

Hindsight 20/20

And all that

[static field]

Wait pia was pressured?

[storm needle]

no verstappen

[mellow sun]

No Max

[storm needle]

idt verstappen realized he cooked his tires after that restart

[twin glade]

Super odd

[wise inlet]

Guys don't worry hell take back everything he said in the next interviews

[pseudo quail]

He was saying they called the safety car in late, which they did do and a bunch of people were agreeing. He was braking just when the safety car pulled away

[snow swan]

When its that sudden i dont think he had much of an option but to go he probably didnt realise his tires cooled off as he was prob focused on racing

[empty hornet]

Max verstappen spinning out was funny

[storm needle]

piastri playing the ultimate team game with the restart by securing the 1-2

lol

[mellow sun]

The rain was making water shoot up so badly it literally hid the lights of cars in front

[fervent wind]

thats was painful

[mellow sun]

Also the reason I think Hadjar? Ran right into the back of someone else

[fervent wind]

Thats how Hadjar crashed

[storm needle]

ye

poor antonelli

[junior granite]

hadjar hit antonelli

[storm needle]

and hadjar

[snow swan]

At first I thought hed done it to secure norris the lead but his reaction said otherwise lol didnt think he wanted to brake that hard but he still did. Bit disappointed as i expected better from him but 🤷‍♀️

[empty hornet]

What was painful was sainz not being top 10 again

[fervent wind]

There was no crazy rain tho at the end of the SC

[storm needle]

max has insane safety car restarts so piastri tried to play a trick move but he was too excessive

[fervent wind]

It's upsetting

[mellow sun]

The rain no, but the water on the road was still there

[storm needle]

if he didn't brake as much he woulda gotten away with it and acted all nonchalant

[snow swan]

Conditions still crazy, multiple cars said they thought they were gojna crash at his excessive brake

[wise inlet]

Not to be a fan boy but in Silverstone on a monza set up and in rain if it takes a crazy trick from another driver to get him to mess up like that then this guy is truly a machine

[snow swan]

Prob he was upset he got caught our haha

[storm needle]

lol

yea

asking to swap positions is crazy 😭

[fervent wind]

What Piastri was saying about the lights on the SC wasn't that he couldn't see it. He said they went off or something thats my point

[empty hornet]

How stupid haas was to collide with eachother

[mellow sun]

To be fair Hamilton came back in those conditions too

[snow swan]

I was in shock..

[mellow sun]

Both are fucking monsters

[fervent wind]

I know, I watched the race

[mellow sun]

Yea he couldn't see them so he had to stop to make sure he didn't ram the safety car

Now

He didn't need to brake that hard

[wise inlet]

Hmm I guess, one can say the ferrari is as bad as the redbull on crazy settings xD

[storm needle]

ferrari needs to get their shit together

[mellow sun]

Even remotely

But still

Penalty warranted

[empty hornet]

So does haas

[storm needle]

literally the best driver lineup in the grid but just constantly selling

[snow swan]

I got excited for ferrari when they showed strong promise in fp1 but it all went to 💩 in the race

[twin glade]

"i hit the brakes, saw the safety car lights went off so I didn't accelerate again, and max went past me which was a bit strange, and then I got a penalty for it ..."

I'm so confused by this, but English isn't my first language

[storm needle]

average ferrari moment

[hidden vapor]

u can never trust them in the rain

[static field]

There is no getting shut together for ferr this season is not our season unfortunately

[storm needle]

car and strategy

[snow swan]

Leclerc had a stinker

[outer pulsar]

NICO GOT PODIUM?!?!

[storm needle]

we are p2 constructor demons dw

[empty hornet]

Yes

[real heath]

yes!!

[wise inlet]

LMAOO

[grim anvil]

YES

[mellow sun]

Basically lights went off, he didn't go forward so he didn't hit the safety car and got confused when he saw Verstappen get ahead of him

[hidden vapor]

the strategy was genuinely the most unbelievable thing i have ever seen

[marble ocean]

very unfortunate race for him

[storm needle]

yea it was terrible

[grim anvil]

p13 to p3

[storm needle]

p19

[wise inlet]

We have a time traveller here

Just backwards

[outer pulsar]

Holy

[fervent wind]

I don't like Norris but I am glad he won instead of Piastri this time

[twin glade]

Ah, so he didn't realise that the safety car was ending or?

[outer pulsar]

Bro is crazy in that sauber

[snow swan]

Maxs recovery was great though

[empty hornet]

Yea idk what happened there properly. Oscar should’ve won

[storm needle]

underrated fs

[storm needle]

yep

[mellow sun]

Something like that I guess

[grim anvil]

oops I meant to say 19

[fervent wind]

It's confusing even if english is your first language 😂😂

[mellow sun]

No, he got the penalty, that's his fault

[snow swan]

In a shitbox he managed an amazing pole and p5, not bad

[mellow sun]

He lost because of his own mistake

[fervent wind]

No

[knotty mist]

Awh im so happy for Hulkenberg

[marble ocean]

even if Oscar only got a 5 second penalty its likely Norris still would have been able to win

[storm needle]

if he accelerates the race begins, so when he braked, he kinda just stood still to recouperate, that's why he just stood still in the middle of the track

[empty hornet]

I’m happy for McLaren 1 2 more

[wise inlet]

...I'm reading your messages in sainz' voice

[storm needle]

he was caught offguard

[wise inlet]

You too..

[knotty mist]

I really thought hed never get a podium 😭

[fervent wind]

P10 to P5 is good

[grim anvil]

he could've won if he didn't brake check at the end of the safety car. He broke the rules and it is what it is.

good race up that point be dammed

[fervent wind]

Haha

[mellow sun]

He definitely still would

[storm needle]

idk i think lando coulda caught up

[mellow sun]

He ended with over 6 seconds ahead

[pseudo quail]

No he’d said he did his usual braking for that turn to build brake temps and tires up, and then the safety car ended right there which meant they sped up while he did a massive brake

[snow swan]

This race had me shocked every moment.. Stroll up there, nico podium..

[fervent wind]

He def would

[wise inlet]

Bro wdym we get that every race

[snow swan]

Proud of hulkenburg

[knotty mist]

Oscar deserves all the blame because he drove beautifully bar that act of total stupidity. It was his own fault.

[wise inlet]

NPC

[grim anvil]

could've caught up sure, but we'll never know now.

[storm needle]

yep

[marble ocean]

if the penalty had been 5 seconds its likely that lead would have been closer to 2-3 seconds, more chances at a battle but still Norris favored

[snow swan]

Norris pit stop was horrendous lolol

[knotty mist]

Also btw - it's quite clear Oscar really likes the silverstone circuit (he lived there for years.. I think he might still do?) and wanted to win that badly.

[grim anvil]

that's what I'm most disppointed at cause he was driving the absolute shit out of that car

[storm needle]

yea lol

poor guy

[junior granite]

norris got very close to piastri before that penalty was served

[storm needle]

yea

[junior granite]

seemed a lot faster when the track dried

[storm needle]

he was 2 seconds or smth

and had a terrible pitstop

[mellow sun]

Saying Piastri should have won is like saying "yea I think he would have won if he didn't go straight into that wall Instead of taking a turn"

[pseudo quail]

They would just yo-yo around with the gap like usual if anyone caught up. Doubt there’d be any overtake

[storm needle]

Mclaren's phase changing materials are unreal

[mellow sun]

Norris was ahead of Verstappen before having to pit for half his career

[marble ocean]

didnt the FIA state they werent using phase changing materials

no one knows what they are doing

[wise inlet]

Im still mad nico got a lego trophy bro what is this goofy sport 🤣 🤣

[mellow sun]

That's kinda crazy, but he said it was fine cause his daughter could play with it

[knotty mist]

Btw - give me Silverstone over basically every other race on the calendar. It's either amazing or carnage and there's no in between.

[grim anvil]

Nico said he didn't mind lmao he loves legos

[storm needle]

i was mainly joking

idk what they r doing lol

[pseudo quail]

They likely do by now there’s no time or resources to copy it this season

[storm needle]

realistically phase changing is only theoretical it's really hard to implement

[marble ocean]

well yeah I mean the other teams likely figured it out but the general public doesnt

[pseudo quail]

Yeah

[hollow current]

Didn't watch the race cs I just woke up💔 how did Nico manage P3??

[cold knoll]

why would they give lego trophies at silverstone?

THE silverstone

[indigo ravine]

Its already been leaked

[mellow sun]

Idk how significant Silverstone is tbh

[storm needle]

is it phase changing?

[marble ocean]

lego is confirmed to be af ull sponsor this year

[static field]

Lego got some deep pockets

[cold knoll]

first ever gp

[pseudo quail]

He bitchslapped everyone and they slowed down to let him past

[marble ocean]

first ever f1 race

[wise inlet]

LOL..she'll reconstruct it and give it to him after every race

[mellow sun]

That's neat

[cold knoll]

fuck mbs

[lavish ore]

good strategy and good racecraft

[storm needle]

and it was won by lewis hamilton!!

joking

[indigo ravine]

Yes between the brake ducts and some other component of the brake system

[wise inlet]

Bro if we get more lego races I won't be mad

[snow swan]

I feel so bad for lewis

[storm needle]

i think i read abt this

[mellow sun]

He swung his massive car and got all the way up to third

[indigo ravine]

Why

[cold knoll]

handing out toys as trophies is hilarious

[storm needle]

somewhere

[pseudo quail]

They aren’t allowed that though

[storm needle]

podium streak

gone

[snow swan]

Didnt get his 10 year streak

[mellow sun]

Also Max ate shit

[storm needle]

12

[wise inlet]

It's sooo obvious that everyone loved it. It would be a crime not to do it again

[snow swan]

Oh rlly

[storm needle]

ye

[cold knoll]

what

[storm needle]

very sad

[snow swan]

Ferrari fucked him over again

[marble ocean]

im not feeling that sad for Hamilton, p4 in that car is already a triumph

[storm needle]

ye

[indigo ravine]

If it contained water then yes but they passed fia assessment. But idk they might have

[cold knoll]

i am talking about trophies

[mellow sun]

He just did really good in a race where most people did really bad

[storm needle]

not even the car, the goddam strategy is worse

idk how ferrari is ass on both fronts

different beast

[pseudo quail]

Pretty sure the Fia specially said those were banned and McLaren didn’t have it

[snow swan]

Haha

[sudden bough]

hamilton did outperform leclerc

[cold knoll]

what are you talking about?

[storm needle]

yet they r still p2

because of the drivers

[pseudo quail]

They’ve recently added some rules to 2026 banning some brake designs

[zinc rock]

outperform is an understatement

[marble ocean]

FIA has already inspected for that

[mellow sun]

The Incredible Hulk really hit Hamilton with that

[marble ocean]

again, what mclaren are doing is confirmed by FIA to be legal

[storm needle]

hulk's also old

[zinc rock]

we need to have a conversation about leclerc in mixed conditions

[sudden bough]

i think charles just gave up after seeing the strategy

bc holy shit

[indigo ravine]

His a 7 time world champion I don’t think it’s that deep. Cool he could of got the 10 podium in a row but it’s nothing special

[wise inlet]

The 2nd time I buy flowers for my future partner they're gonna be lego flowers

[mellow sun]

Oh my bad replied to the wrong message

[snow swan]

Mclarens car is really a rocketship damn

[sudden bough]

he became sainz canada 2024

[mellow sun]

Yea but not 40

[indigo ravine]

And what did they say?

[sudden bough]

but worse

[storm needle]

13 podium streak in ur home race is special

[snow swan]

For him in his home race it is special

[marble ocean]

they only confirmed its not phase changing nor water

[fervent wind]

2 rocket ships and a tractor on the podium today

[cold knoll]

my ex had lego flowers 💔

[marble ocean]

we still dont know what Mclaren did to make their car like this

[cold knoll]

twice

[storm needle]

steroids

[indigo ravine]

Gotcha

[fervent wind]

WHAT happened to Charles lmfaooo

[wise inlet]

😔

[snow swan]

Already knew a mclaren double podium was coming. Unless they dnf its inevitable

[mellow sun]

No I just didn't realize lol

[storm needle]

ferrari happened

redbull's strategy crew should move to ferrari

👍

[mellow sun]

They called up Mater and asked for his jet engine

[pseudo quail]

Honestly it’s probably a bunch of small things that just add up. There’s good info out there on the designs Mclaren have been clever with, like their steering axis or whatever and their brake cooling designs, suspension etc

[snow swan]

Dk how they manage to make the redbull car worse and worse. Thats defo something special

[fervent wind]

Ferrari decided to cosplay a backfield team

[marble ocean]

from what the FIA said, they are doing something different, its just not illegal

[indigo ravine]

I get the agenda but as a hard Lh fan I would rather see Nico win his first race than someone who’s won multiple

[storm needle]

lol

[pseudo quail]

Yeah

[marble ocean]

there wouldnt be this amount of secrecy around it if it wasnt something noticably different

[pseudo quail]

Ferrari strategy is good they just took a risk this race

And failed on leclerc

[wise inlet]

More like ferrari's design team should move to red bull

[snow swan]

Oh yeah no ones against nicos podium, id just hoped theyd be on it together. It is something special

[storm needle]

no man they failed the past like 4 races

[storm needle]

lol

[marble ocean]

they made 3rd and 4th last race

[fervent wind]

They have ILLEGAL SUPER TIRE COOLERS 😡😡 REDBULL SAID SO 😤😤😤

[pseudo quail]

They’ve been good for a while they just get highlighted because they used to be dogshit for some years

[indigo ravine]

Now that would have been the perfect story. French kiss on top

[storm needle]

Yes, care performed really well

strategy wasn't the best though

[pseudo quail]

It was

They got the best they could

[storm needle]

nah not for hamilton

[pseudo quail]

Even for him

[marble ocean]

ferrari arent beating the mclarens at austria

[pseudo quail]

He was unlikely to stay ahead of Leclerc

[marble ocean]

they battled for 20 laps and didnt even have much tire wear

[snow swan]

They dont listen to their drivers its evident from the past coupleof races

[marble ocean]

how do you beat that

[pseudo quail]

They just decided to take the safe route and not let him lose time to whoever was in 5th

[snow swan]

No ones beating mclarens lol unless they mess up. How do u beat that car

[sudden bough]

p14 due to:
pitting for slicks on the formation lap
straightlining maggots and becketts causing car damage
stayed out on inters a bit too long at the end
changed to slicks, made his way to p8 and then drove directly into the gravel at stowe

[storm needle]

chance of staying ahead of leclerc> staying behind leclerc

[wise inlet]

Daniil kvyat style

[snow swan]

Torpedo 😂😂

[pseudo quail]

Yea and there was basically zero chance Leclerc wouldn’t have caught up and overtaken anyway

[storm needle]

idk abt 0

[marble ocean]

yeah for ferrari there it was either guarantee 4th, or guarantee 4th with a chance at higher if there is a safety car, but also risk getting lower if the tire fails. They made the right call since there was no safety car

[sudden bough]

this has basically js become 2014-2016 merc ripoff

[wise inlet]

Honestly he is the solution to the redbull second driver curse

[hushed olive]

Leclerc silverstone 2024:
P14
Leclerc silverstone 2025: P14

[mellow sun]

Put Stroll in third and have him divebomb their cars

[snow swan]

Definitely. i hope next year will bring more competition with the new regulations.

[storm needle]

*wet race silverstone

[sudden bough]

leclercs luck at silverstone

[snow swan]

Stroll was too close to podium today 😂

[wise inlet]

LOL exactly

[sudden bough]

is nonexistent

strolls pace just died at the end

[zinc rock]

whats the issue

[storm needle]

poor guy

[sudden bough]

with the softs

[mellow sun]

Stroll after failing to divebomb McLarens:

[zinc rock]

tyres were gone

[snow swan]

No issue just saying

[hushed olive]

Leclerc has been crazy unlucky at silverstone since 2022

[indigo ravine]

The new reg are literally built for that exact reason lol it will be fun to watch

[mellow sun]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-price-gif-11163798864566121593

[storm needle]

softs was a bad idea

[sudden bough]

hamilton was also on softs and his pace also died at the end

[twin glade]

I guess it comes down to things they've implemented during this regulation era, people were warning them in 2022-2023 how they were already teaching an extreme that would be difficult to walk back from (from within the team), and they kind of just kept going that route. Now they're at a point where they actually are unable to walk those extreme decisions back – plus, vital additions have likely made those extremes so much worse – so every change and update they bring is there to hopefully balance things out, but it typically doesn't work

Top performance roofs have the direct sacrifice of driveability, and rbr has been walking that edge for years now

[sudden bough]

think he woulda managed p5

[lavish ore]

isn't that what they said about ground effect as well

[storm needle]

on mediums maybe

[sudden bough]

with mediums

idk if aston had mediums

[hushed olive]

2021 was his last good race and was also unlucky cuz of a technical failure made hamilton overtook him with 3 laps to go

[zinc rock]

we did

[indigo ravine]

Idk

[storm needle]

ferrari sold the bag for hamilton's p3

[indigo ravine]

Haven’t checked

[indigo ravine]

He could of stayed out on the inters tbh

[sudden bough]

seeing stroll running in p3-p4 for about 20 laps was wild lmao

[storm needle]

honestly yea

[snow swan]

Its really something else. Max is doing really well for that car, and yuki well is trying his best.

[sudden bough]

also the kick sauber has officially become a midfield car

[pseudo quail]

They’d lose too much time

[lavish ore]

we need to look at the positives. Yes leclerc's race was fucked and yes lewis missed out on the podium, but ferrari have really good quali and race pace now so there will be plenty of opportunities for the rest of the season

[hushed olive]

Ferrari has screwed lewis so much this year

Im understanding more charles now

[pseudo quail]

10 laps was enough to lose 3-4 secs a lap on inters

[sudden bough]

meanwhile over at merc
russell could not get past a FUCKING ALPINE

[mellow sun]

If only they were sponsored by literally any other company

[storm needle]

3-4 sec but 3 cars needed to pass him

[lavish ore]

and max battling sainz for like 10 laps 💀

[snow swan]

Poor russell

[marble ocean]

as verstappen showed, qualifying doesnt mean much when you cant match the mclarens

[storm needle]

he prolly woulda been p3

[sudden bough]

merc strategy team are failures

[indigo ravine]

What were they on before they pitted

[frank beacon]

Mercedes was poor in Silverstone what were they thinking

[storm needle]

realistically waiting 1-2 laps and then pitting to mediums woulda secured the podium

[sudden bough]

i think it was more a strategy team issue than a car issue

[storm needle]

but ferrari does ferrari things

[mellow sun]

Or when you spin out and get shot back 10 spots

[lavish ore]

yeah i don't think race wins are to be expected unless the mclarens have a hamilton rosberg moment

[frank beacon]

It was, you can't do what they did, should've stayed on the inters

[hushed olive]

Hulkenberg has scored more points than max since spain

[sudden bough]

first russell gambled for slicks on the formation lap (terrible choice) and then he gambled for slicks at the end, spun at maggots and becketts and finished p10

[storm needle]

let's change this statement

[snow swan]

Even without the spin he was getting gapped by oscars car as soon as he got overtook. Its just that much different - the cars.

[storm needle]

Hulkenberg has scored more points than redbull since spain ☠️

[sudden bough]

hes scored more points than the whole red bull team

[bleak thorn]

Is it me, or are max fans furious with piastri? Do they blame the spin on piastri??

[pseudo quail]

Inters would just wear out on the dry parts and then they have a slick tire for the wet final turns without any grip for the other corners

[sudden bough]

ngl verstappens spin was kinda hilarious to watch

[mellow sun]

He also got passed by Norris before a bad pit, it was really a matter of time before he got passed again

[hushed olive]

Tsunoda (his car) is useless

But yeah still

[frank beacon]

Awful choice honestly

[snow swan]

Some of it is on max some of it is on piastri. Its not 100% one drivers fault

[lavish ore]

piastri's move meant cooler tyres, so some people are linking that to max's spin

[indigo ravine]

It was his fault partially

[mellow sun]

All 3 people that were watching with me cheered

Including me

[bleak thorn]

But what he did was not against any rules? No?

[storm needle]

it was

[sudden bough]

and merc fucked kimis strategy so bad he was in p16 at the end of around lap 10
and then hadjar drove into the back of him bc of low visibility

[snow swan]

Yeah, ngl the mclarens pace is rlly impressive so no one can complain. They just have that much of a better car

[storm needle]

he got a penalty for it

[pseudo quail]

Got penalized

[lavish ore]

well you usually aren't supposed to brake check 6 cars in rainy conditions with poor visibility

[mellow sun]

They blame him even though Max could have very much dealt with it if he was focused. He got distracted and didn't think of his tires.

[lavish ore]

oscar did a really dumb move and got fairly penalised for it

[hushed olive]

All the drivers who dnfed were rookies

The races are being so chaotic thanks to them

[dusk jackal]

chilllll it was just a coincidence the safety car did that when he was braking

[indigo ravine]

It was a hard call

[storm needle]

considering hulkenberg was affected by it, max really couldn't do shit

[sudden bough]

surprised max was able to stay p2 for so long tbf

[pseudo quail]

Everyone lost control of their cars at some point. Max was unlucky it happened on the restart

[twin glade]

Really felt for them😭 they were getting picked off one by one

[sudden bough]

he still ended up p5 in the end tbf

[mellow sun]

Probably logical to think that so was Norris

[snow swan]

All drivers were affected by the braking it certainly wasnt just maxs fault 😭

[lavish ore]

it's crazy how pretty much everyone who switched to slicks lost control on the outlap

[frank beacon]

They honestly did, if they planned better he would've never been hit by hadjar like that

[snow swan]

He got unlucky

[bleak thorn]

From the onboards I'm watching, max had his hands off the steering wheel... He was clearly distracted

[mellow sun]

I think the only one who didn't lose control of his car was Norris

[sudden bough]

exactly

[indigo ravine]

I mean why would you brake up to 50psi going from 200-50kmp for no reason tho 😂

[pseudo quail]

Didn’t Norris go off some point

[storm needle]

yo wha

[mellow sun]

Also Max was drifting all around even before Piastri braked

[storm needle]

i watched the onboards and couldnt see this

[hushed olive]

2025 Silverstone was just germany 2019 but without the dominating team binning it

[mellow sun]

His tires were cooked

[primal wharf]

The only one to blame is the sht car

[indigo ravine]

Did he pull a George ig we will never know

[primal wharf]

He turned like a boat

Couldnt keep up with a williams

[snow swan]

The brake definitely affected it aswell…

[mellow sun]

Yea but his tires were already fucked

[sudden bough]

this is so cursed

[snow swan]

Everyone was sliding around

[sudden bough]

sauber in p3

[frank beacon]

Not kimis fault honestly we should've stayed on the inters and not go like that, we knew that there was rain soon shouldve stayed

[pseudo quail]

‘Warm up tires’ but secretly it’s just to get max’s tires to cool

[primal wharf]

Deserved for HULK boy

[sudden bough]

hulkenberg strategy masterclass

[bleak thorn]

I still think 10secs is way too harsh, considering you are allowed to control the pace when the safety car goes in. Meh whatever at least we got Hulk podium.

[sudden bough]

stroll legit had the best strategy for the whole race
n then he switched to softs instead of mediums

[mellow sun]

If you check the rules, there's literally nothing else they could give him

[primal wharf]

That was an obvious insane brake

[snow swan]

10 secs defo not too harsh, he couldve caused a huge collision with every car behind him 😭

[lavish ore]

when you consider what could've happened i think it's fair. He went from 200kph to 50kph, it was dangerously slow and unpredictable

[primal wharf]

He was going dead stop

[mellow sun]

The conditions were certainly not mundane, so it's 10 seconds

[pseudo quail]

Why mediums? They’d not fire up as quickly

[lavish ore]

oscar literally almost parked it on the track with near 0 visibility

[primal wharf]

Yeah

[lavish ore]

deserved the penalty

[fervent wind]

10 seconds was reasonable

[mellow sun]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-docks-shawty-triflin-shawty-triflin-she-gif-22455514

[primal wharf]

I dont understand how he can be mad for getting that penalty

[sudden bough]

stroll lost pace at the end bc of his softs dying out tbf

he was running in a solid p5

[pseudo quail]

Probably was better than him on cold mediums imo

[lavish ore]

if max rear ended him it could've been multiple dnfs and/or punctures and probably a red flag

[knotty mist]

So Russell asked for softs and got hards... where have I seen that before

[fervent wind]

Right

[snow swan]

Fr and was in a mood tje whole time. Theres no other explanatiom other then trying to make others at a disadvantage. Clearly intentional

[pseudo quail]

Because he got the penalty

[sudden bough]

woulda essentially ended the race

[mellow sun]

I think in the moment he was upset because he didn't think it was unreasonable to break there, he'll probably cool off and think about it over film, then realize he was in the wrong

[pseudo quail]

Everyone disagrees with penalties on themselves

[primal wharf]

I mean tbh

Verstappen

Gets way worse

When he gets a deserved penalty 🤣

[snow swan]

‘Driving unnecessarily slow’

Made up rule

[visual swan]

So I wanted to watch the race because I had other plans and I just realised... It is useless cuz nothing happens right??

[primal wharf]

?

[marble ocean]

especially in a circumstance where the driver made a mistake rather than an obvious fault, like a collision

[snow swan]

Rhats what he got a penalty from before

[lavish ore]

half of the race was safety car and we had maybe 10-15 laps of action total

[bleak thorn]

See I don't think so, he was way faster than anybody, I doubt he cared that much.

[hushed olive]

Red bull (yuki) is a backmarker team now

[marble ocean]

from our perspective the fault was obvious but from what Piastri said, he didnt expect the green light

[primal wharf]

He could have caused a full on collision

[visual swan]

Oh cool. So thats it?

[primal wharf]

200 to 50 is crazy

[junior pulsar]

HUUUUUUULKENBERG ON THE PODIUM

[snow swan]

Im talking abt max

[junior pulsar]

RACE OF THE DECADE ICL

[primal wharf]

Ooooh

HAHHAHA

[mellow sun]

He couldn't see the safety car lights and stopped because he didn't wanna run into them, it's not that crazy

[lost crane]

My goat

[mellow sun]

The problem wasn't braking

[pseudo quail]

I don’t think we’ll really know. Piastri did the same on previous laps, just this lap he braked a lot harder than usual. He might be honest about not expecting the safety car to end right there but obviously he won’t just admit it now

[mellow sun]

It was how HARD he braked

[visual swan]

Naaaah too good to be possible😭💀

[pseudo quail]

He could

[marble ocean]

yeah just an unfortunate mistake + over correction

[mellow sun]

I'm going off of what he said

[marble ocean]

but thats f1 for you

[snow swan]

Yeah no one knows why he did it. However braking that hard… idk..

[primal wharf]

Forgets he has mirrors id a nice addition

[mellow sun]

I think he just got spooked

Shit happens

[ashen jacinth]

Im so proud of hulkenburg

[mellow sun]

Deserved the penalty

[pseudo quail]

He said he saw them but when he braked they turned off the lights right then. He just was unlucky he chose to brake at that moment

[primal wharf]

Hulkenberg got podium after 239 races no?

[pseudo quail]

Or that’s his reasoning

[mellow sun]

Is it? I might have read it wrong

[junior pulsar]

real

[visual swan]

Wait now did Hulk got a podium? I didn't saw so idk???

[ashen jacinth]

It was so maxes tyres could cool down so Oscar could have the advantage

[pseudo quail]

Yea

[bleak thorn]

Exactly, the whole "to gain an advantage" crap doesn't add up. He was way faster than anyone, why would he risk it...

[mellow sun]

English isn't my first language, mind you

[visual swan]

NO. Now I need to check it out

[primal wharf]

He drove the tractor to p3

[sudden bough]

merc are bottlers

[snow swan]

Yeah he claims otherwise but yk.. hed never admit to that…

[sudden bough]

merc are bottlers

[ashen jacinth]

From P19 to P3

[mellow sun]

Yea there was literally 0 reason to do so

Even if Norris couldn't pass Max, he'd still be a million points ahead anyways

[junior pulsar]

im being dead ass

[sudden bough]

watch extended highlights if there are any
ik espn has some

[junior pulsar]

p3

[visual swan]

WHAT THE ACTUAL 🦆 HE LITERALLY DID AND I TOUGHT YOU ALL JOKING💀😭😭😭

[junior pulsar]

LOL

NAH

[south heron]

holy shit they're ahead of Racing Bulls and Aston

[junior pulsar]

WE SERIOUS

[visual swan]

What the balls

[lavish ore]

ferrari are so lucky that red bull has 1 driver and merc has been struggling these last few races, gave them time to build a fast car and keep P2

[junior pulsar]

HULKENBERG ON THE PODIUM

[south heron]

how do they have a decent car now

[junior pulsar]

FIRST TIME IN 16 YEARS

INSANE

[visual swan]

Holly Hulk

[young smelt]

Niko yes

Finally

[hushed olive]

Yuki and colapinto are the only backmarkers now

Everybody else is scoring points

This season is so competitive

[primal wharf]

Redbull might have the worst car out of all of them, can max even do anything at this point to win

[sudden bough]

@visual swan

[bleak thorn]

And let's not forget he had a 15 sec gap before the SC

[snow swan]

Which os why everyones confused. It prob wasnt to gain an advantage however max tyres did cool, its what happened so intentional or not he wouldve bene at an advantage id he didnt get a penalty. Penalty still deserved regardless anyway

[sudden bough]

this is what happened to verstappen

[south heron]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-turntables-gif-12190345

[visual swan]

This is what happens when I ain't watching a race JUST ONE

DAMN ME

[sudden bough]

ngl that was funny asf to watch

[south heron]

it was

[sudden bough]

the spin

[young smelt]

Ii nearly cried for niko

[snow swan]

Yuki is rlly not doing great.. the car is bad but the collisions arent helping his case..

[south heron]

I'm glad I didn't miss it

[mellow sun]

Sure, but not the reason for the penalty and also not intentional

That's all I was saying

[visual swan]

WHAT THE ACTUALL SHIAT

[sudden bough]

this is really the 4-time world champion binning it on the restart 😭

[south heron]

yeah he really doesn't seem to feel comfortable one bit

[primal wharf]

He is driving a boat

[snow swan]

Ye ofc

[visual swan]

What happened in this hell😭

[marble ocean]

yeah...at this point its hard to only point to the car. Perez had bad times but never colided this much

[primal wharf]

All max did was swear about the car

[sudden bough]

also 5 dnfs

[south heron]

yeah but Perez was an experienced driver

[snow swan]

A boat but that doesnt mean you run people off the road and crash constantly

[sudden bough]

the midfield was a fucking warzone

[mellow sun]

Also doesn't help that Max hit the Initial D on half the corners

[bleak thorn]

Go rewatch it, it is actually worth it

[primal wharf]

He cant control it

[south heron]

Tsunoda well he is experienced but he's still pretty young

[visual swan]

And Gasly?

[south heron]

and even Perez had his fair share of incidents and embarrassing moments

[primal wharf]

U could see Max not being able to turn

[visual swan]

Oh wait P7 letsgooo

[primal wharf]

Imagine tsunoda

[south heron]

like Hungary and Mexico 2023

[sudden bough]

gasly was the underrated hero of this race ngl

p10-p6

[pseudo quail]

Why’s think different being spammed now

[young smelt]

Saber also got a podium as well when was the last time they got one of those

[visual swan]

My boy

[mellow sun]

Yea cause his tires were fucked most of the race until he spun out

[south heron]

people clowning on Max probably

[mellow sun]

Clearly because he was sliding

[pseudo quail]

Huh

[sudden bough]

oh yeah ocon has crashed into all his teammates now!!!!!!!!

[hushed olive]

Colapinto was fairly decent last year

Now he is just de vries 2.0

[visual swan]

Allrigh fock the tomorrow's job I rewatching it

[primal wharf]

I dont think thats the only reason

[mellow sun]

Ocon had like 4-5 crashes

[sudden bough]

hes doing his job well

[young smelt]

10 second penalty for ocon

[pseudo quail]

Wishing for crash

[south heron]

thanks again Fl*vio

[mellow sun]

No but it was definitely a major one

[snow swan]

The redbull is mostly at fault lets be real

[south heron]

and Alpine ofc

[snow swan]

Ifs horrible

[bleak thorn]

Also, Ferrari bottled it.... Again 😭

[south heron]

yeah the RB car is still ass

[mellow sun]

Car's ass

[young smelt]

An absolue Classic

[mellow sun]

Tires fucked

[south heron]

I'm honestly surprised Lewis couldn't catch up to Hulk

[mellow sun]

Max is at the wheel and pissy

[south heron]

he is in the better car, this should've been easy

[mellow sun]

Result is spinning out

[young smelt]

You dont beat the hulk

[snow swan]

Max being at the wheel has nothing to do with spinning out 😭😭😭😭

[south heron]

yeah but he's still in a Sauber

[primal wharf]

When max cant keep up with a williams

[mellow sun]

I was joking

[sudden bough]

i thought lewis had a guaranteed podium

[primal wharf]

You know sum is up

[south heron]

Perez was in a Sauber and even he couldn't overtake Alonso

[bleak thorn]

If he pitted a lap later, he would've gotten the place. But honestly thank you Ferrari, we got Hulk on podium.

[young smelt]

The literal tractor car

[south heron]

right??

[pseudo quail]

Maybe the Williams was pretty good last year and Albon was a bit overrated

[sudden bough]

after max spun out, russell forgot how to strategize, leclerc gave up on life

[young smelt]

Honestly jogging is faster the sauber car crazy for hulk to do that

[south heron]

well the Williams is decent this year yet Albon's sitting on 46 points

[mellow sun]

Nice to see the LGBT in the top 3

[sudden bough]

yeah i have some words to describe leclerc this weekend
he gave up on his sanity

[snow swan]

Albons not doinf bad at all

[primal wharf]

I was confused thr entire race

[young smelt]

Average Ferrari driver experience

[south heron]

yeah Albon's doing pretty good so far this year

[pseudo quail]

Hulkenberg could overtake that by the end of the season at this rate

[primal wharf]

He was even before max after max spun

[sudden bough]

he straightlined maggots and becketts and went into the gravel at stowe

and ended up p14

[south heron]

I figured he wouldn't drown as badly as a lot of people thought he would but I didn't think he'd be doing this good

[young smelt]

Goatenburg

[snow swan]

Fr

[south heron]

especially since according to Albon the car has a narrow setup window

[sudden bough]

hulkenberg p8 in standings in a sauber wen

[livid trench]

I think Ferrari should do fundasion

Mental health one

For their fans

And drivers

[knotty elm]

His radio at the end: “yeah, that was fuckingly bad.”

[south heron]

if Williams keep having issues probably

[sudden bough]

that describes it all well

[mellow sun]

Hülkenberg 9th in the championship

[south heron]

yeah that sure is something

[pseudo quail]

Sounds like a redbull

[mellow sun]

[south heron]

or the 2022-24 Mercs

[snow swan]

Hulkenburg doing so well

[pseudo quail]

So they just took Merc blueprints

[south heron]

yeah it is ironic as Albon struggled quite badly at Red Bull yet he's thriving at Williams

[primal wharf]

Didnt max have a setup for no rain?

[pseudo quail]

Explains the speed they had for a few races

[young smelt]

I think even every f1 fan is happy about this

[primal wharf]

In the qualifying they said that i remember

[snow swan]

Yeah

[sudden bough]

hulk getting a podium at sauber before hamilton at ferrari is hilarious

[south heron]

guess he really has improved since being demoted after 2020

[knotty elm]

https://x.com/technorodrigo/status/1941899474949071140

olivia 🐥 (@technorodrigo)

post race 📻

🆑"yeah that was fuckingly bad. sorry, i am at loss of words. not sure whether it‘s where I put the car in terms of setup or, that was SO difficult."

bryan: yeah we can see.... well thanks anyway !

X · Jul 6, 2025, 4:38 PM

[south heron]

yeah it sure is surreal

[mellow sun]

Hamilton clearly still has a little bit left in him to get 4th despite being on Ferrari's team

[south heron]

it still doesn't feel real

[south heron]

he definitely tried to get that 3rd

I still wish he could've gotten that tbh

[mellow sun]

He tried, but you can't beat the Incredible Hulk

[young smelt]

I hope hulk wins out the rest of the season

[snow swan]

Lewis defo couldve got tbird

[south heron]

I just hope Ferrari won't fire Vasseur bc of this result

[primal wharf]

Then u wouldnt have hulken making the podiun

That would be so sad

[livid trench]

Idk but I’m happy Hamilton ain’t in podium

[sudden bough]

tbf
hamilton did annihilate leclercs performance

[south heron]

I suppose

[bleak thorn]

No, we wouldn't have hulk on podium...

[pseudo quail]

They’re extending vasseur’s contract afaik

[south heron]

I'm a Ferrari fan, of course I'm going to root for them 😭

[hushed olive]

Hamilton to ferrari

Was just like messi to psg

[south heron]

yeah he was insanely good this race

[bleak thorn]

Same but it's hulk first podium...

[south heron]

Leclerc seemed a bit stuck in the back half

[sudden bough]

double overtake around the outside of turn 3 was kinda fire

[south heron]

yup

[mellow sun]

Hülkenberg vs Hamilton was really just two elderly men fighting

[knotty elm]

George’s race was fuckingly bad too. I knew we were in for a bad one when we were matching strat with a fucking Ferrari

[south heron]

Hamilton isn't elderly wdym 😭

[snow swan]

Kept gojng off track

[south heron]

he's only 35 man

[mellow sun]

37 and 40 years old respectively

Hamilton is 40

[south heron]

(don't mind me taking my copium)

[sudden bough]

i have said this once and will say this again

merc strat team are idiots

[lavish ore]

im still so mad, lewis at one point got closer than 5 tenths to nico, then it all fell apart

[south heron]

^^

[knotty elm]

Byeah

[mellow sun]

Get off the gas

[south heron]

I thought it was a sure thing

[bleak thorn]

Than Ferrari strategy happened

[pseudo quail]

Did ferrari copy Merc

[hushed olive]

2024 hamilton could atleast win 2 races

2025 hamilton with a better car cant get higher than 4th

[sudden bough]

kimi wouldnt have been crashed out if it wasnt for merc strategy putting him down in p16 in the first place

[mellow sun]

I'm not

[pseudo quail]

Or ferrari just decided on their own they needed the slicks at the start

[south heron]

I'm a Ferrari fan, I have special dispensation to take the gas as much as I want

[frank beacon]

If we stayed on inters Kimi and George would finish way higher

[mellow sun]

Incredible Hulk needed that W

Hamilton had like 20 years in the spotlight

Get back old man

[sudden bough]

george woulda prob had a shot at the podium

[snow swan]

Yea george pitted and it just went downhill

[tall lily]

i love sauber man

[hushed olive]

Hamilton has been so inconsistent since the last few races of 2023

[sudden bough]

as soon as i saw george sending it through maggots and becketts backwards i knew it was over

[knotty elm]

Yeah. That was just an unfortunate race. Really bad given a lot of useless people will say the result is proof of George’s bad wheel lmfao

[mellow sun]

Hamilton hasn't been good since he switched teams

[lavish ore]

what cruel deity made a world where we need to choose between lewis podium streak and nico's first podium

[frank beacon]

Yeah exactly and Kimi would have a shot at top 6 or top 8 at least in my opinion

[tall lily]

not only made brazil come back to f1

[primal wharf]

Kick LULE

[sudden bough]

for merc

[pseudo quail]

There were a lot of random things going on. It’s hard to really predict just from better strategy. It could always happen that with a different strategy there’s a butterfly effect and George or Kimi crash on their own. But we never know now

[mellow sun]

Well, as good I should say

[south heron]

he did still win the sprint in China

[tall lily]

they gave the first podium of the goat hulk

[young smelt]

Starts p18, makes no mistakes in the rain, drags that tractor to p3, ends Hamiltons streak, refuses to elaborate.

[south heron]

it's a sprint win but yeah

[lavish ore]

he's been fine

[mellow sun]

Yea I meant as good as he was

[south heron]

yeah for his age he's been doing as good as he could be

[mellow sun]

Cause he's halfway in the grave

[lavish ore]

sprint pole and win, fairly close to leclerc in quali, now beating him occasionally

[mellow sun]

Old ass man

[primal wharf]

Hamilton is doing completely fine, ferrari can be something sometimes though

[south heron]

the points gap between them isn't crazy huge either

[sudden bough]

this whole weekend was surreal

[hushed olive]

Since the last few races of 2023 he has been so inconsistent

[lavish ore]

points gap is smaller than it was with carlos i believe

[south heron]

yeah Lewis may not be exactly at his 2014-20 level but he's no 2021 Ricciardo

[south heron]

it sure was

[frank beacon]

Silverstone cooked icl

[knotty elm]

How it felt to be a merc fan

[mellow sun]

To be fair, beating Leclerc is like his entire career

[lavish ore]

for sure some people downplay him so bad. For a 40 year old who just joined a new team after a decade he's doing fine

[sudden bough]

now this

this is real

[knotty elm]

Yup

[mellow sun]

Leclerc's career I mean

[sudden bough]

race of the season
unless interlagos cooks up another 2024

[mellow sun]

Hamilton's beaten a lot more people

[snow swan]

Me after max spun

[hushed olive]

Silverstone 2025: Brazil 2024

[south heron]

yeah it feels like some people just hate on Lewis because he "whines too much" or some shit

[sudden bough]

this and brazil 2024 were the two most surreal weekends

[pseudo quail]

Have to say the sprint win was the last time I could see ferrari having a ‘perfect’ setup on the car. Since then they’ve had higher ride heights or some other issue to deal with. Maybe with the new suspension they can go back to not struggling to setup the car, and Hamilton can do more performances like that sprint win

[primal wharf]

Sid moment unlucky

[knotty elm]

That was INSANE omg. I completely forgot this happened. This race was like 3 in 1

[novel olive]

Nico's podium was peak tbh 🔥

[snow swan]

Masterclass in racing in rain spins out

[knotty elm]

More events than all of this season prior combined

[hushed olive]

This race was brazil but with a dominant team and not red flags

[snow swan]

😭😭😭 fr

[south heron]

I really hope so, their new upgrades seem to be providing the step up they have needed

[lavish ore]

i don't know how anyone can hate him. He's one of the kindest and most humble people on the grid

[primal wharf]

Max is even best in the rain, that no rain setup was weird honestly

[bleak thorn]

We where watching in a group and everyone lost it laughing....

[south heron]

a win for either Leclerc or Lewis would be nice

[south heron]

exactly

[primal wharf]

I was crying cuh

[mellow sun]

Seeing Red Bull fall off gives me the same feeling as seeing the Chiefs lose the Superbowl

[magic blaze]

Wasnt that car setup deemed illegal later on?

[snow swan]

Honestly

[pseudo quail]

Well only the main race

[sudden bough]

bro this was just germany 2019
if the dominant team didnt fuck up everything

[mellow sun]

Peace and happiness

[sudden bough]

this was legit germany 2019

but hulk doesnt bottle

[primal wharf]

I swear i was coping so hard thinking P1 will do wonders

[pseudo quail]

The sprint was legal but just because they didn’t wear out the plank that much

[sudden bough]

i see the similarities bro

[mild ginkgo]

wait till u see rb next season with ford engine XD

[sudden bough]

stroll on an insane strategy but missing out on podium

[snow swan]

Oh..

[primal wharf]

They are making their own yeah

[snow swan]

Lost it ar the end

[mellow sun]

I'm riding this high until next year's regulations make McLaren's whole setup illegal

[sudden bough]

just like germany 2019

faster cars overtook him

at the end

[primal wharf]

I do believe max is going to mercedes after these last races unless redbull makes major upgrades

[mellow sun]

Stroll would have had 3rd if it kept raining

[snow swan]

Has george been resigned yet?

[primal wharf]

Nope

[pseudo quail]

McLaren’s had some a few failed upgrades though. There’s been some front wings and floors they’ve tested and then scrapped. Not sure if that’s a bad sign

[sudden bough]

no hulk overtook him

[mellow sun]

Max thinking he's Hamilton bruh

[primal wharf]

I think they will do i quick swap

[sudden bough]

if it kept raining hamilton woulda prob been p3

[primal wharf]

A*

[sudden bough]

hulk overtook him during inter phase

[snow swan]

Itll be so weird seeing max in mercedes..

[wise inlet]

Guys why did sauber lift a Switzerland flag while celebrating hulkenberg?

[primal wharf]

I think hes better personally

[lavish ore]

i think there's 0 basis for these rumours tbh, i don't see max leaving red bull unless they completely fuck up the new regs

[sudden bough]

and then hamilton did the same

[sudden bough]

sauber is a swiss team

[mellow sun]

Currently he is

[tall pawn]

NICOOO ULLLKENBURGGGGGGGGG

[pseudo quail]

Office in Swiss

[mellow sun]

Cause Hamilton's an old man

[snow swan]

Max is definitely a one in a kind talent.

[hushed olive]

German climbs back from back of the grid to podium:

2019: vettel
2025: hulkenberg

[wise inlet]

Whattt

[errant moon]

I wasn’t watching the race because I couldn’t but how tf did hulkenburg win with a sauber shitbox

[primal wharf]

He wants to win 5 thats for sure, if redbull cant do anything to help him achieve that then he will leave

[bleak thorn]

Toto and max will be weird. "Noo Micky noo" 🤣

[primal wharf]

Is how im thinking

[snow swan]

Ahaha

[mild ginkgo]

rb is cooked lol, without newey they have no idea what to do, u think next season s car is gonna magically be the best? also ford engine

[primal wharf]

I believe he is in general but thats another discussion tbh

[pseudo quail]

Stroll transferred 0.001% of his hidden skills

[primal wharf]

Like peak to peak

[mellow sun]

Currently Max is better because Hamilton's old. But Hamilton was better overall during his career. At least I think so.

[sudden bough]

the rain was wild

[wise inlet]

What makes you think he's going there?

[lavish ore]

my point is that nobody knows, there's no sense in switching teams right before new regulations

[errant moon]

Stroll is NOT him 😭

[primal wharf]

Theres arguments for both

[mellow sun]

For sure

[snow swan]

Max isnt saying anything, hes very straightforward. If he was seriously not considerig it he wouldve completelh shut down the rumours

[primal wharf]

I wont tell u ham isnt better or is better

Because its hard knowing

[mild ginkgo]

well max knows how shit rb is

[lavish ore]

being real prime lewis would dominate prime max

[pseudo quail]

He could’ve won today but it’d make the British people sad, so he let McLaren enjoy it

[frank beacon]

Max to Cadillac here we go!

[primal wharf]

I think the way hamilton drives and just doesnt rely on his car makes him better

[zealous ginkgo]

oh my god this is total action

[primal wharf]

I meant

[snow swan]

In their prime cars?

[sudden bough]

stroll on insane strategy but missing out on podium
its just germany 2019 if dominant team got their shit together

[primal wharf]

Verstappen

[knotty elm]

Max has the freedom to switch wherever he wants. Why would he go through the tomfoolery of switching before he knew what the field was?

[zealous ginkgo]

best fucking race of the season 100%

also how did hadjar´s car end after that big crash

[mellow sun]

Verstappen has relied on having a better car a lot more than Hamilton from what I know

[frank beacon]

Whole right side of the tyres were off

[lavish ore]

hard to compare cars from different seasons, i just mean in overall skill/racecraft

[mellow sun]

Or at least has HAD a better car more often

[pseudo quail]

Remember 2023 when no one was this worried about redbull-ford?

[snow swan]

Definitely not.. do you know how good the mercedes was..

[primal wharf]

Winning 2024 proves and 2025 tbh

[mellow sun]

No, actually

I don't

[primal wharf]

He is driving a car that cant keep up with a williams

[mellow sun]

He's not winning 2025

[primal wharf]

No but the way he is doing

[hushed olive]

Haas teammates also crashed in both races

And the 2nd red bull driver finished last

[mellow sun]

But he's good

[mild ginkgo]

rb must feel really stupid now switching 3 drivers in less than a season, horner is left now to be the 2nd rb xd

[novel olive]

Guys how do I get my fav drivers number next to my name

[sudden bough]

r u watching the highlights

[sudden bough]

lmao yeah

[primal wharf]

Roles and channels

Top of the list

[snow swan]

Hamilton had an amazing car. Mclaren now basically back then, max has proven he can win in a shitbox.

[novel olive]

Cheers

[mellow sun]

But also you can't compare how well Verstappen's doing now to how well Hamilton's doing now

[zealous ginkgo]

nah i saw entire race

[primal wharf]

Np

[sudden bough]

gasly was running as high as p5 and then crashed into someone in that race right

[mellow sun]

Hamilton's too old

[primal wharf]

Im not

[zealous ginkgo]

rain was crazy

[sudden bough]

yeah that was the race of the season

[mellow sun]

Just making sure

[primal wharf]

I watched hamilton when he was peak

[lavish ore]

i don't think he relied on it MORE, but he definitely has had the fastest car a lot. It was 50/50 in 2021, in 2022 it was domination, in 2023 it was domination, in 2024 he had the fastest car to build up a huge points gap that lando was never going to close. People downplay it a lot but max has relied on the fastest car for all of his championship wins

[south heron]

you mean in Silverstone, in Germany they finished 7th and 8th

[zealous ginkgo]

hulkenberg is driver of the year atp

[tall lily]

kick sauber in 2024: 4 points
kick sauber in 2025 (half-season): 41 points

[mellow sun]

Yea that's what I was thinking

[hushed olive]

Yes and tsunoda this race was stuck at last place all the time

[snow swan]

Rb24 was not the fastest car

[sudden bough]

ferrari lucky that merc are bottlers

[mellow sun]

Maybe he didn't rely on it more but he had the fastest car a lot

[sudden bough]

smh

[pseudo quail]

Binotto good leader

[sudden bough]

also alpine have a guaranteed p10 in constructors dont they

more wind tunnel time ig

[tall lily]

binotto is great after all

[primal wharf]

Mercedes was just consistent and hamilton played it well with them

It was a wonderteam

[zealous ginkgo]

nah hulk carrying also battle for p5 is gonna be total action

[south heron]

watch as they magic yet another double podium before the season is over

[zealous ginkgo]

from amr to williams

omds

[sudden bough]

binotto is good when hes making the cars
ig he just wasnt good when leading the teams

[mellow sun]

I think being able to work that well with your team is part of being the best though

[tall lily]

do you mean hyundai?

[primal wharf]

For sure

[lavish ore]

yep, fastest car with the fastest driver and that's what we get

[neat latch]

I just saw that max said the spin was his fault, that's a pretty uncharacteristic mistake from him

[primal wharf]

It improves

[sudden bough]

noooo i dont want haas to be last in constructors tho

[pseudo quail]

Yea basically

[primal wharf]

Alot of things

[south heron]

me neither

I hope they get it together

[sudden bough]

for all ocon and bearman have been doing

the heroics

[novel olive]

I went to roles and channels and it said no customization options available

[sudden bough]

like in silverstone quali w bearman

[lavish ore]

the biggest thing that makes me lean far more into hamilton's favor is the insane level of his teammates and rivals compared to max

[tall lily]

bortoleto needs more race pace

[sudden bough]

china w ocon

[knotty elm]

Poor Bearman. P8 when it means nothing

[sudden bough]

monaco w ocon

[primal wharf]

🤷‍♂️

[zealous ginkgo]

alonso 4 races in a row on points

[forest shard]

I know I'm late cause I just woke up but..... NICO HULKENBURG

[novel olive]

Damn

[mellow sun]

Ocon might actually be worse to have than Tsunoda

[sudden bough]

guys bearman had a shot at the podium if he started p8