monaco-gp

[proud moss]

and max got nuked by a penalty today, mercedes keep getting engine problems so thats why ferrari are p2

[nova vale]

OOOH YAH WHATS UP WITH THE FRANZ HERMAN STUFF, why is he being called max in disguise

[golden narwhal]

not to mention the whole change if teams is always a long long process that lewis does not have time for anymore

[regal needle]

Lewis had his Gloves off when he still in the Car

[nova vale]

Im a Ferrari fam, i support lewis and charles. Lewis might just be getting old man, i’ve been the fan of the black panther

[golden narwhal]

lewis needs to let it go
he is no better than alonso rn

[nova vale]

Man dang i need to watch him race

[golden narwhal]

its just like 2024
flash in a pan performances, inconsistent

[nova vale]

Wait does that mean merc wasnt bad?

[golden narwhal]

mercedes hasnt been bad, they were mid

mclaren top team then everyone else is just mid

[proud delta]

he had a wing issue and floor damage

Wdym it’s not the car lol

[knotty mist]

Weird thing tho right was.. Leclerc REALLY struggled on the second set of Medium. George was having little deg for some reason in high temps.. he was really fast and was going to pass charles if that stint went any longer..

[snow swan]

Hottake (Not really) lance is overhated

[knotty mist]

Hot take.. Antonelli is feeling the pressure of being a mercedes driver a bit right now. He will develop with George as lead, ignore the headlines.. but he's finding the pace at the front hard going right now.

[snow swan]

I understand that people don't like stroll (hell I don't like him) but you treat him as if he was mazepin ffs

[storm mortar]

Feels like the car is the problem, not the driver

car looks like a slip and slide

[regal needle]

Making Lewis wish his Car can perform well like Charles

Well, Well... https://fixupx.com/Vetteleclerc/status/1929200837521203581?t=2W-H2FZaxcIRNJpVLFgs5g&s=19

tami. (@Vetteleclerc)

Fred with his post-race ice cream

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[dry remnant]

I think they are running different set ups that’s why

Like Lewis isn’t able to get the setup right with his car, the move from Mercedes is a huge move and hugely different car, next year he can actully try and do good cause he’ll know the car better

[regal needle]

We should have Fred enjoyed some Ice Cream again if Ferrari gets a Race Win

[austere trail]

then how as charles able to finish in the poedium position

[neat edge]

I feel bad for Drugovich more than anyone else

[wintry hornet]

this is so funny

[hexed drum]

So why did max go on hards?

[wintry hornet]

only tyre available

[coarse vine]

this haunts me

[astral bone]

😭

i hope max and george keep beefing cus tis is amusing asf

[vagrant helm]

that was such a shitshow lol

[glass compass]

i just wanna say how proud i am of Nico, he rly did THAT w that xbox on wheels

[little kestrel]

Holy fucken shit. I just watched the highlights today and HULKENBERG P6 leaving them tied with Aston and AHEAD OF ALPAINE.

[nova vale]

Who put this slowmo 😭

[nova vale]

DAWG WHAT

[snow swan]

Sauber on top is surprising

[gloomy wharf]

Toto has to give him time to develop as a top-level racer, which he is.

[snow swan]

LOL

[dense silo]

Could I count the incident between max and George and what happened after as continuing the max and George drama from last season?

[keen vine]

e

[wintry hornet]

did the penalty drop max from p3 to p10??

[deep swan]

Max didnt even NEED to give back the position

[wispy locust]

P5 to P10

so he would've been P9/P8 if he maintained top 3

[gusty sequoia]

Whats the point of voting max dotd?

[wispy locust]

voting happened and finished before safety car ended

and that's when all the drama happened

[torn meteor]

Most problably they voted for Max before the incident

[gloomy wharf]

I’d vote Hulkenberg. I used to think he was a mediocre driver.

[wispy locust]

I did vote for Hulkenberg, i know people voted Max but Hulkberg deserved that 10x more

[gloomy wharf]

But he and Bortoleto are wrestling shiteboxes in a pack of land fighter jets.

[wispy locust]

despite how bad the redbull is this year, getting that Shitbox of a Sauber into the top 10 YET ALONE top 5 is perfect work

[gloomy wharf]

Sauber was not meant to compete in F1.

[wispy locust]

yeah but kick gambling money came in clutch and kept them on the grid

[tender spoke]

i heard max is one penalty point away from a race ban apparently?

so wait if max gets a race ban, then who would red bull put in the car next to yuki?

[wispy locust]

Yuki becomes #1 driver for one weekend, Hadjar is promoted to ORB for one race to drive alongside Yuki in ORB and Ayumu Iwasa from VCRB will drive alongside Lawson

edit: is my best guess

if max gets 1 more point and is banned for a race, he will end is 183 race streak with Red Bull since joining them in 2016

[tender spoke]

hmm interesting

[fervent wind]

redbull is cooked

[bold bear]

franz

[fervent wind]

why was he told to do that then

Why is slowmode still on

[rapid horizon]

team was too scared of risking a penalty they caved in

[lost moat]

isnt hulk p5 after max penalty?

[little kestrel]

yes

[lost moat]

holy fkn airball nico should have gotten driver of the day 100% how tf did max get 19% of the votes

[fervent wind]

bc everything changed in the last 5 laps after everyone already voted 🥀

[lost moat]

thats true but there wasn't really anything notable that he did. he fought a really good race up until that point

[dim dock]

this GP reminded me sm of austria last year, w max getting so heated that he costed himself a win colliding w lando (also bc lando won dotd before retiring bc it happened at the very end of the race and people were mad he got it, similar to today) funnily enough george won that race afterwards

[sharp veldt]

i think the votes stop like 5 laps before race end

[waxen bear]

hulk p5 is crazy

[queen orbit]

exactly why i only vote till a lap before the vote closes

[little kestrel]

You want to know something even crazier? Sauber is ahead of two teams in the championship.

[errant kiln]

The interviewer who was interviewing max was so pushy she kept asking about the move whilst max was trying to talk about the race sounded like a bit of British media bias there

[smoky whale]

I think it was before the crash out

[vestal barn]

who would win if Max and George had a fistfight

[lilac rose]

George is taller

George grew up in the streets

[vestal barn]

max probably has more experience

at the very least he probably has a lot more pain tolerance due to Jos

[lilac rose]

Race driver's son vs Butcher's boy. George is clear

[vestal barn]

when was george ever related to a butcher lmao

[deep swan]

FIA released some statement saying he didnt even need to but the team was scared

[fervent wind]

Oh 💀

[deep swan]

but it was released AFTER the order so red bull generally fucked him over twice

[thin berry]

Ok they made a mistake, it happens

[bold bear]

people voted before the safety car

[lilac rose]

Charles on morphine

[deep swan]

yessir

[errant kiln]

Ferrari ahh strategy

[deep swan]

brah gap to top 2 got increased so hard

[lost moat]

that was a crazy race though. sad to see circuit de catalunya gone from f1 next year but thats one hell of a last race for that track

[raven wagon]

Catalunya is staying for next year

[uncut otter]

only 2 drivers w/o points

[timber oxide]

What british bias if it's the most important incident of the race, not getting a stop and go is already a very good result for him

[junior granite]

me when the move happened during the race 😱

[timber oxide]

Bro forgot the collision physics were on 😭

[keen skiff]

Same Energy

[lilac rose]

Interviewer doing their job wtf 😡😡😡

[neat latch]

Nah bro if u use a belt against max it's over bro

[ornate pendant]

Still cant forget that because of the radio and the collision, I screamed like a fucking bitch that my mom woke up 💀 (im a straight male btw)

[fervent wind]

lando's reaction 😭 😭 he's so expressive

[dry remnant]

maybe this is becuase of the Horner speculation from Red Bull to Ferrari

[fervent wind]

they had a good strat going until safety car came out

[stiff bough]

The FIA don’t tell you anymore if you need to give the place back so the teams are generally very cautious when it comes to that

[silk quartz]

I just got home, what happened in spain?

[remote knoll]

some bullshit

[snow swan]

Why would RedBull give Max hard tyres?

[wet sequoia]

Only tyres Red Bull has left

[fierce bolt]

they somehow thought that would be better than just staying on the softs

[silk quartz]

bwoah, leclerc at p3?!? That's progress, ig

[wet sequoia]

Everyone who stayed on used tyres got overtaken very quickly so swapping was the right choice

[fierce bolt]

no it absolutely wasn’t lol

if it was a medium tire maybe, but a hard tire for 6 laps only is pure stupidity

[wet sequoia]

You missed the part where I said he only had fresh hards left

[silk quartz]

just saw some onboard on pastry, the smoothness of him entering and exiting a corner is insane. No micro corrections whatsoever

[remote knoll]

Max shoulda just stayed out

[fierce bolt]

no i didn’t, my point is that he should’ve just stayed on the softs and defended as many places as possible

[remote knoll]

agree

[wet sequoia]

He wasn’t on softs, he was on mediums

Also <@&781898349006684170> is slow mode still required?

[fierce bolt]

pretty sure it was softs but even if it was mediums, that’s even more reason to stay out

[remote knoll]

i tried turning it off

but discord is being shitty

[toxic siren]

yes

[remote knoll]

he was on softs

[toxic siren]

there you go

now it's set to 6 hours

and now it's off

[fierce bolt]

yeah just checked, he was on softs

he had already pitted 3 times

[remote knoll]

Max's softs were 7 laps old when the SC came out

[wet sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-laughing-apes-driving-gif-19437032

[fierce bolt]

zero reason to change them, the hard tires never would’ve been faster

and then red bull decides to make max give the place back for literally no reason

[wet sequoia]

Yeah I missed the part where he went to softs, but they were scrubbed not new

[coarse quiver]

i js woke up who won

[fierce bolt]

such a mismanaged race from red bull its actually crazy

[manic vigil]

even wolff said this

[remote knoll]

I imagine it still would've been better than a tire that is two steps down

[coarse quiver]

what happened

[manic vigil]

Pushed more on Verstappen’s racecraft and approach, Wolff said: “You know, there’s a pattern that I’ve read, the great ones, whether it’s in motor racing or in other sports, you just need to have the world against you and perform at the highest possible level.

[fierce bolt]

a hard tire for six laps will never be a good idea

[manic vigil]

ive been trying to say that this menality works

[remote knoll]

He would have the lead and will have a lot more leverage

[fierce bolt]

red bull went to ferrari levels of stupidity

[remote knoll]

would you rather defend from p1 or defend from p3

[wet sequoia]

On heavily degraded tyres…

[remote knoll]

"heavily"

[coarse quiver]

wait what 🙏🙏🙏

[wet sequoia]

They weren’t new

[remote knoll]

he was on the tire for 7 laps

[fierce bolt]

not that degraded

[wet sequoia]

They were scrubbed

[remote knoll]

yeah but you're acting like he was on the tire for 20 laps

[silk quartz]

even commentators were confused lmao

[remote knoll]

goatmeer was confused too

[fierce bolt]

used softs starting in p1 with six laps left is significantly better than p3 on fucking hards man

[wet sequoia]

And your acting like they were used for a single qualifying lap

[silk quartz]

as to why they used hard tires

[remote knoll]

yes

[remote knoll]

No I'm not

since I already stated he was on them for 7 laps

[fierce bolt]

nobody said that, they were still miles better than hards

plus it would’ve made max be defending from p1

and his SC restarts are brilliant

[remote knoll]

way more leverage

[wet sequoia]

7 laps plus whatever running happened before he put them on

Which I’m damn well sure wasn’t used for race management

[fierce bolt]

clearly not that much as he had decent pace on them before the SC

they planned on taking that tire to the end anyway

that was the whole goal

[wet sequoia]

Yes BEFORE the safety car came out

[silk quartz]

Agreed. He was even staying or lingering at p3

[fierce bolt]

he likely would’ve lost the lead but he at least would’ve got podium for sure

putting him back into p3 on fucking hard tires with six laps left was so unbelievably stupid

everybody else had softs and could push

that was never ever going to work

[wet sequoia]

Everyone else didn’t do a 3 stop strategy either

Everyone did a 2 stop

Except Max

[fierce bolt]

yeah and it worked way better than i thought it would

he was close to the mclarens before SC

[wet sequoia]

It would have worked if the fucking safety car didn’t happen

[remote knoll]

yeah the SC screwed him

[fierce bolt]

for sure

but they screwed him further by having him pit for hards

[wet sequoia]

It’s that simple, very used softs or fresh hards, picked the lesser of 2 evils

[fierce bolt]

they were not very used softs

[wet sequoia]

Hardly

[remote knoll]

you stay out and have the lead

defend from p1

better than defending from p3

[fierce bolt]

and you’re conveniently forgetting the fact that he would start from p1

[silk quartz]

what happened to stroll?

[fierce bolt]

wrist pain

[wet sequoia]

And your using tunnel vision to forget the fact the softs he had are scrubbed, don’t know what those tyres went through BEFORE he put them on in the race?

[fierce bolt]

and since he qualified they couldn’t get a reserve

[fierce bolt]

do you seriously think he would’ve been keeping pace on extremely used softs before the SC

[silk quartz]

sigh

he had good progress too

[fierce bolt]

yeah strolls been doing better this season, surprised me

[wet sequoia]

Because everyone else finished their pit stops, there were no more due

[fierce bolt]

what does that prove

[wet sequoia]

Safety car fucked him, everyone else pitted because they had a final backup to burn in that scenario

[fierce bolt]

he was keeping pace with them

the tires were fine

[wet sequoia]

Red Bull’s 3 stop was ruined by the safety car

[fierce bolt]

it wasn’t an ideal situation either way but switching to the hards was a terrible move

[silk quartz]

nico huuulkenburg had a really nice pace

[fierce bolt]

he had no grip and almost lost it on the restart

[wet sequoia]

Unless you can tell me from the Red Bull pit wall what those softs went through BEFORE Max put them on you actually know nothing

Because THEY knew what his tyres went through

[fierce bolt]

mate you don’t know either wtf are you talking about

[remote knoll]

That was scary af

[fierce bolt]

yeah the red bull pit wall also told max to give that position to george

they were not exactly cooking over there

[wet sequoia]

That we can agree on

Stupid

[silk quartz]

max and george brought their beef to spain

sigh

[fierce bolt]

i don’t think it was really about george, he was just proving a point in his own frustration

[wet sequoia]

Being a child more like

[remote knoll]

RedBull telling Max to give the place to George after he literally rammed him off the track has to be the lowest IQ moment from RedBull

in recent time

and then Max just made it 100x worse

[fierce bolt]

while yes it was wrong, he had every right to be that frustrated

[wet sequoia]

They would have had Jeddah in the back of their minds

[fierce bolt]

red bull fucked him over so bad

[wet sequoia]

No he didn’t have the right to deliberately ram someone

[manic vigil]

Pushed more on Verstappen’s racecraft and approach, Wolff said: “You know, there’s a pattern that I’ve read, the great ones, whether it’s in motor racing or in other sports, you just need to have the world against you and perform at the highest possible level.

[fierce bolt]

he had been driving excellently all afternoon just for his team to fuck him over, yes he deserved to be frustrated

[manic vigil]

read this line

[wet sequoia]

It doesn’t excuse him for what he did

He should have been black flagged

[manic vigil]

well i think thats how it's wired

thats how he's wired

[manic vigil]

thats ridiculous

ly harsh

[fierce bolt]

that’s absurd

[manic vigil]

considering there was no damage

on either car

[fierce bolt]

and im not saying that as a max fan

[remote knoll]

Tbh

[manic vigil]

penalty points were just fine

[fierce bolt]

it was way less dangerous than everyone is saying

[manic vigil]

absolutely

[remote knoll]

If you drive into someone intentionally that should be a black flag

[fierce bolt]

i wouldn’t even call it ramming

the fia couldnt technically prove that it was intentional anyway

[remote knoll]

it doesn't matter the severity the intent is malicious

[wet sequoia]

He slowed then sped up when Russell was beginning to overtake without turning the corner

[manic vigil]

if they cant prove it with the data

then its not an intentional move

[remote knoll]

FIA can't prove shit

they are idiots

[wet sequoia]

All it takes is the wrong angle and Russell is upside down or ended up with a piece of carbon fibre sticking in his side

[manic vigil]

so then end of discussion

what are we talking about here

[fierce bolt]

if they black flag him for something they can’t prove, that would be absurd

[wet sequoia]

They’re refusing to release the onboard

[fierce bolt]

plus way more speed lmao

[manic vigil]

theres literally onboards on the internet if u look hard enough

[stiff bough]

front facing onboard isn’t released

[fierce bolt]

no angle at that speed would’ve caused harm to russel ever

he wasn’t moving that fast

[manic vigil]

well ive seen it

so

oh well

[stiff bough]

Max’s car was on the rear facing camera

[wet sequoia]

Proof?

[remote knoll]

Like I said the severity doesn't matter

you're intentionally driving into someone

[manic vigil]

i wont show it since thats the opinion that u make of it

[remote knoll]

lmfao

[manic vigil]

but i have the footage

[remote knoll]

that is comedy

[wet sequoia]

So the alt has no proof

[fierce bolt]

didn’t stroll do this exact same thing in spain last year to hamilton

[wet sequoia]

Yeah I’m going back to work, I’m done with Max d riders for the month

[manic vigil]

fair enough

[fierce bolt]

it was during a practice or qualifying but still

[manic vigil]

have a nice day at work

[remote knoll]

yup

[manic vigil]

im sorry formula one could make you upset

not.

[fierce bolt]

calling us d riders for what exactly 😭

i fully admit that was wrong and absolutely intentional

all i said was a black flag is absurd

[golden narwhal]

obvious dangerous driving with intention is worthy of a black flag

[remote knoll]

if you agree that it's intentional then why is a black flag absurd

[fierce bolt]

because it’s impossible to prove that it was intentional, and the stewards clearly followed the rules the way they saw fit

if you’re going to start black flagging drivers for a hunch that its intentional, that’s a slippery slope

[golden narwhal]

it isnt impossible, there's telemetry data, there's the obviously intentional footage of him backing off then diving straight into russell shoving him off

[manic vigil]

and it wasnt this murder shit

[fierce bolt]

except it wasn’t straight into russel, he was turning his car

[manic vigil]

give me a break

[fierce bolt]

it wasn’t enough

[manic vigil]

it was just a bump

[remote knoll]

like i said for the 3rd time

[golden narwhal]

he didnt turn his car

[remote knoll]

the severity doesnt matter

[manic vigil]

maybe he just overshot the corner

who knows

[golden narwhal]

he barely got enough lock when he hit russell

[remote knoll]

driving into someone on purpose is completely unacceptable

how did he overshoot the corner if he was slowing down 😭

[fierce bolt]

yes he was, watch it again

[manic vigil]

which is what u would want to have done anyway

if ur braking that late

u dont want any turning

as that induces lock ups

[fierce bolt]

he did enough to have grounds for an argument that it wasn’t intentional

[remote knoll]

He wasn't braking late tho? he was initially slowing down to let Russell by

you can literally hear him accelerate

[manic vigil]

a dsq and 11 penalty points is far too harsh

[remote knoll]

into the corner

[manic vigil]

for this situation

[remote knoll]

oh my fucking god

[fierce bolt]

it was safe enough and done in a way that you could never prove that it was intentional, that’s just how it is

[manic vigil]

even toto wolff wasnt that pissed off about it

[fierce bolt]

if the stewards black flagged that, that would’ve been a controversy forever

[manic vigil]

he was more understanding a bunch of internet people

[remote knoll]

he is used to Verstappen's dickhead maneuevers

[remote knoll]

You can literally hear him accelerate after he slows down

he isn't even at the apex

[fierce bolt]

apparently wants to sign that dickhead too

[remote knoll]

what does that have to do with anything

[fierce bolt]

that’s normal for letting drivers by

you don’t just coast to the turn

[remote knoll]

except you don't accelerate into your opponent

[fierce bolt]

red bull could very easily say that he changed his mind and tried to fight back against russel (max had zero obligation to give that place back anyway) and overcooked it

it’s really not that hard for them to argue it

[remote knoll]

they could and that's silly

[fierce bolt]

it is silly

but it’s the truth

pretty sure the stewards realized that

so while it was intentional, it was done in a safe enough way to avoid a black flag

which is why im saying it would be absurd

max got his punishment and that’s that

[golden narwhal]

nope he could have used the whole meter he left on the inside

if he didnt want to hit him

[lilac rose]

Wow. Max is so good at pushing the rules. He calculated the exact way to crash into Russell to get a milder penalty. Truly the 🐐

[fierce bolt]

like i said, that’s not proof that it was intentional

[golden narwhal]

but yeah ig he "locked up"

or "steered"

[fierce bolt]

they could very easily say he misjudged it and took too much speed

and since he did turn his car, he didn’t just go straight into him

[fierce bolt]

max is max

[golden narwhal]

he went into him with no intention of using the inside curb to try to make an overtake

[lilac rose]

FIA needs to make Max less Max. It's ruining the sport.

[remote knoll]

it's funny how Max is always making these "mistakes" that occur when he is pulling off his crazy w2w moves

[golden narwhal]

there is the whole inside curb that he didnt use

[fierce bolt]

still can’t prove it was intentional

[remote knoll]

surely they are all mistakes

[fierce bolt]

ruining the sport is a bit dramatic lmao

[remote knoll]

The FIA are ruining w2w racing with their bullshit ahead at the apex rules

[junior granite]

that's technically the fault of the drivers

[fierce bolt]

yeah it is stupid for sure

[remote knoll]

"look at me im ahead at the apex, time for force my rival into the barriers"

[lilac rose]

He had been doing this shit for a long while. Crashing purposefully into driver is infact ruining the sport

[junior granite]

drivers association lobbies for current ruleset

[golden narwhal]

it is intentional, how else would he had made that overtake had he not ram him off the road

[junior granite]

they all want to exploit it when attacking

[remote knoll]

anyway this is going nowhere i go

[fierce bolt]

did it ruin this race? max was penalized and the winners did not change

[remote knoll]

bye

[fierce bolt]

how is it ruining the sport

bye

[golden narwhal]

i just made up the inside curb thing to say he could have tried to NOT hit russell

[fierce bolt]

i know its intentional im just saying they never could’ve proven that

which is why it doesn’t get a black flag

and black flagging drivers for something you can’t prove i believe is absurd

[remote knoll]

Russell should have overtaken cleanly, it's all his fault really

no it's actually RedBull's fault for putting Max on hards

[golden narwhal]

wow if i watched the race and i knew that was intentional and it's obvious to everyone else watching, do you think the FIA is stupid enough to not see that it is

[remote knoll]

but you can't just go off your eyes alone

it isn't as simple as what you see

you need data

ok im going fr this time

[lilac rose]

Should be disqualified and should have more penalty points. FIA isn't supposed to give penalty based on the outcome but the action

[fierce bolt]

yes everyone knows its intentional, but you need to actually prove its intentional otherwise red bull will just argue against it

[remote knoll]

there is more that goes into incident reviews then what appears to happen

[junior granite]

if he got a harsher penalty Lawson would've gotten points

[golden narwhal]

because it was intention, you have video proof of him not using the track width, or doing backing off shenanigans (like Saudi 2021)

[fierce bolt]

as i have said over and over and over again, they can never prove it was intentional

[golden narwhal]

it is dangerous driving

[lilac rose]

Russell got a more severe punishment in Monaco for cutting the chicane. It's crazy.

[junior granite]

so there is merit for arguing for a stronger penalty

[fierce bolt]

i don’t really count that as ruining the sport

[golden narwhal]

they can totally prove it

[fierce bolt]

how so

[junior granite]

no I don't think this incident is ruining the sport

[lilac rose]

They can. It's pretty obvious

[golden narwhal]

IT IS SO OBVIOUS

[fierce bolt]

how can they prove it

[junior granite]

it's just a bit unfortunate to watch from the pinnacle of motorsport yada yada

the apex shit is way more annoying

[fierce bolt]

yeah it’s stupid rules but it is what it is

[lilac rose]

It shouldn't be

[fierce bolt]

well then go complain to the FIA

tell them to change the rules

you can’t fault the drivers for abusing them

that’s just how it works rn

[junior granite]

gpda wants these rules

[fierce bolt]

that surprises me cause all i hear from the drivers is how these rules aren’t natural

[junior granite]

most of the time the things the drivers want are not necessarily what fans want to see

a lot of tracks are like this too

[golden narwhal]

totally didnt use the inner road to at least made an effort of avoiding collision

[junior granite]

everyone who wins monaco loves the track lmao

[fierce bolt]

common sense doesn’t count as proof

that’s just how it is mate

[junior granite]

end of 2024 they changed the racing rules based on driver feedback

[fierce bolt]

red bull can very easily say max misjudged it, took too much speed, and hit russel

max did clearly turn his car, so you can’t say he just went straight into russel either

[junior granite]

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/f1-racing-rules-to-change-drivers-raise-two-key-issues/

[golden narwhal]

you watch the scene and for one split second he was straight

[fierce bolt]

interesting. to be fair, all the complaints i’ve heard are from the drivers who get negatively effected by it at the time

[fierce bolt]

he turned at the end

it’s enough

for the argument

[junior granite]

yeah because all the drivers complain when they're on the receiving end and don't care when they dish it out

[fierce bolt]

yeah true

[junior granite]

which I don't fault them for that much because they're competitors

[golden narwhal]

the moment he was right next to russell wheel to wheell THEN he turned, which resulted in a collision

[fierce bolt]

yeah

[junior granite]

but it means the guidelines they suggest are made so they themselves can exploit them not to provide good racing

[golden narwhal]

why did he not turn earlier to aboid that

[fierce bolt]

it was definitely intentional we know

[golden narwhal]

so why say they cant prove it

[fierce bolt]

because he did turn

he slowed down and turned, it just conveniently wasn’t enough

[golden narwhal]

but intentionally late, which is obvious

[fierce bolt]

red bull would argue the black flag and get it overturned anyway

[junior granite]

there is just enough bullshit in the filter for some very vaguely plausible deniability

[fierce bolt]

exactly

and max knew that

that’s just how he is

[junior granite]

I don't think that was calculated lmao

he was just mad

[fierce bolt]

it’s stupid af sometimes and i don’t like when he does this

[junior granite]

if he was that calculated he wouldn't have done it at all

then he would've stayed fifth

we ain't spinning this as some crazy master plan

[fierce bolt]

maybe not, it very well could be coincidence

no definitely not

[golden narwhal]

im just saying that its very obvious and they could have black flagged him but no

[fierce bolt]

but it wouldn’t surprise me if max at least tried to avoid a black flag at the last second

[junior granite]

haven't black flagged someone in a while

[fierce bolt]

they really couldn’t of

[junior granite]

last was what

[golden narwhal]

2024

[junior granite]

hulkenberg? I wanna say?

[fierce bolt]

also it doesn’t matter like we are literally arguing over one point

max got one single point

[junior granite]

track assistance or something so not even on track actions

[golden narwhal]

max got one single point left for a race ban

yeah

[fierce bolt]

yeah that too

i think he learned his lesson enough

[golden narwhal]

nope

[fierce bolt]

taking away the one single point he got seems unnecessary

[golden narwhal]

he should have learnt in saudi 2021

[fierce bolt]

especially if you can’t prove it regardless

[junior granite]

one point to max is nothing one point to Lawson who would've been tenth means much more

wouldn't argue for a black flag more like a dtp but that's my view on it

[fierce bolt]

that’s fair

[fierce bolt]

aggressive drivers never change

that’s how they’ve raced their whole lives and they’ll continue doing that

[junior granite]

f1 is very risk averse in how you have to race too

cars are fragile and expensive

[regal needle]

Max need to wait until the end of June for his 2 Penalty Points to expired https://x.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1929211430781309165?t=lFgQdF-OZoNmisvRsRdnxw&s=19

Chris Medland (@ChrisMedlandF1)

Two penalty points expire 30th June, but then the next two don’t expire until 27th October #F1 #SpanishGP

X · Jun 1, 2025, 4:20 PM

[fierce bolt]

true, but even with max’s aggression it’s extremely rare nowadays for him to cause significant damage to the car

[golden narwhal]

this might be his title chances gone

[junior granite]

yeah but that's why other drivers tend to back out of moves and stuff like that

[golden narwhal]

this spain incident will be the end of the verstappen era

[junior granite]

any other series and we'd have more contact

[fierce bolt]

they were very small to begin with, unless red bull absolutely cooks with upgrades somehow

[regal needle]

Next Two Penalty Points will expired on Halloween unfortunately

[fierce bolt]

true

[regal needle]

It's possible for Max to avoid Race Ban but if he didn't do anything infringement

[safe laurel]

it was just bizarre. it was like schumi and villeneuve in 97 except that one at least there was a point

[junior granite]

don't think they'll ban him they'll skirt around it

[fierce bolt]

when max gets frustrated he lashes out like this, that’s how it is

[golden narwhal]

schumacher is renowned for his "dirty tactics"

[fierce bolt]

there’s no reason to it

[regal needle]

Michael may accept the disqualification that Day

But what happened on track really left some Debate

[safe laurel]

the dq was mostly just an acknowledgement that it was deliberate

intentionally driving into people should not be tolerated

[raven wagon]

It was the best solution for Michael in Jerez 1997, he was alr out of the race, they cant possibly give him a multiple race ban for 1998 so dsq from the championship was the best outcome

[turbid ocean]

why is verstappen dotd even.though hes p10

and how is hulk p5

[drifting axle]

pain, banada, australia, silverrock, hot spring, hungry

[blissful orbit]

it wasnt a title fight so a DSQ would be too much ig. Max should be thankful he went away with a 10sec time pen

a stop & go or a 20sec time pen would be race ending

[vocal rune]

i woke up at 8 today and saw the results and thought i was dreaming 💀

[silk quartz]

I cannot fathom how the prancing horses made a better call than redbull at spain in terms of tires

[prime stump]

Best meme I saw today

[austere trail]

Everyday I wake up I'm thankful thst I ain't a ferrari fan

[fickle forum]

Because the majority of voting happens before the last lap

[fickle forum]

no idea why this template of oscar holding a paper isn't popular

i've had it for nearly 2 years now i believe

[worn pendant]

Its not about the points it's about the rules

Max wouldn't have gained any advantage with that maneuver anyways, the main intent i could see was to ram into russell, which is unacceptable

DSQ and 1 race ban

(For accumulated penalty points)

[forest dock]

He has no no chance on title against those McLaren rocketships anyways.

[forest dock]

Because he drove an amazing race until Red Bull ruined with SC strategy.

[tight urchin]

#givehulkDOTD

[gentle verge]

So true bestie

[mild mist]

there’s apparently someone saying

Max got 3 penalty points

that means he’s out for Canada no?

[gentle verge]

No he has one more point left before a ban if I recall

[wet sequoia]

No, he’s on 11 ponts

[mild mist]

he only needed 1 more

and he got 3 apparently

[gentle verge]

Dunno. Not what I saw but who knows with articles

[golden narwhal]

he needs one more to be banned

[radiant scarab]

He needed 4 more, now he needs 1 more

[mild mist]

he was on 11 penalty points

how did he need 4 more

[radiant scarab]

8, now 11

[agile abyss]

P sure he was on 8 penalty points before spanish GP.

[radiant scarab]

Why's this so hard for you lol

Bro hates max but no one understands why

[drifting axle]

combination

[sick bloom]

➕ 🫵🏾 🟰

combination

[gray pollen]

Mad max

[random rain]

Max title chances are over?

[wet sequoia]

No, he acts like a child again in Canada his chances will take a serious hit though

[gray pollen]

Sí, McLaren es un cohete.

[random rain]

I don't know but, there 20 plus races remaining

Anything can happen

[wet sequoia]

there are 17

sorry 15

[random rain]

Oh

[wet sequoia]

I keep forgetting Japan happened

[random rain]

Man this is the best race Max ever had

[golden narwhal]

what the hell

[drifting axle]

Ok

[golden narwhal]

what does that have to do with f1

[gleaming bridge]

I didnt watch the spanish GP but how is hulkenberg 5th...

[knotty mist]

I just want to see Max and George go at it properly for a world title.

The fireworks would be absolutely glorious.

[wet sequoia]

Tyre delta mostly and a lucky safety car, also his lap 1 was prime

[charred forge]

at the moment hes going from 3rd to 10th

so idk man

[gleaming bridge]

Hulkenberg 5th
Max 10th?
Charles 3rd?
The one race i dont watch cuz im studying and i have so many questions

[knotty mist]

Think that ended Max’s challenge for the world title today. It’s a McLaren shoot out now.

[charred forge]

yup

[wet sequoia]

Charles had 2 fresh medium sets, Hulkenburg had lots of fresh tyres, Max intentionally hit Russell on the track

[knotty mist]

Btw Mercedes weren’t that bad in thr heat weirdly. As the race kept going and got hotter, even weirder George was faster than all but the McLarens on softs

It’s just a weird car tbh

[wet sequoia]

I don’t think they were heavy investors of flexi wings

Also maybe they got on top of their heat problem but it cost them some pace

Cause in the cold they’re rocket ships from last year, just things they’re still trying to figure out

[tardy lava]

I'm about to be crucified for having a nickname like this but idc

[radiant scarab]

You're free to dislike who or whatever you like

Disliking his fans has zero affect on him lol

[knotty mist]

Was a bit galling to see Kimi go a pitstop behind George in pace yesterday. I feel like he’s finding the race pace really tough going.

It’s going to take a couple of years of mentoring from George and Merc to help him.

Btw ignore the George wants max as a teammate rubbish. He doesn’t he’s just constantly being fielded max this max that questions in interviews

[clever orchid]

What happened hamilton he was bit annoyed in the press

[regal needle]

Looks like Sky made a Poll https://x.com/fiagirly/status/1929197724861092030?t=brsP3FASQAZJdGGC-9f90Q&s=19

deni (@fiagirly)

SkySports UK put up a poll “should Max Verstappen have been disqualified?” 😭😭😭😭

X · Jun 1, 2025, 3:25 PM

It was 16 Hours ago

[knotty mist]

Car I think had setup issues early and he wasn’t comfortable. Team made a good call to pit early to stay in front of George. He kinda kept pace with Charles… then when Merc pitted George early … George took off so quickly and had a 12 second advantage which Lewis couldn’t recover and it miffed him off.

Both were homing in on Charles but it’s not the point.. he shouldn’t be in this position.

[split bane]

That doesn't explain the overtake Hulkenberg did on him... That's pure humiliation... He didn't even tried to defend

[gleaming bridge]

What.. why?

[wet sequoia]

Safety car with like 10 laps left, Max got fresh hards, overtaken by Leclerc, Russell knocked Max off track, Max was told to swap positions with Russell, Max decided to hit Russell, Max got 3 penalty points and a 10 second penalty

[split bane]

But is Max disqualified from the next race? Because he had like 2 points left on his driver license...

[wet sequoia]

He had 8 points, he now has 11 penalty points

1 more and it’s a race ban

[split bane]

Ok, thanks

[hearty nacelle]

What in the world was that...

[prime stream]

💀

[split bane]

Nah, my boy Maximillian helped Charlie keeping his podium by battling with Russell, he's fine

[turbid ocean]

but hulk...?

[wet sequoia]

Fuck me I need to stay out of general <@&781898349006684170> someone wants Max dead

[gleaming bridge]

Ahh alr

[sharp hull]

Dont want to insult anyone but thats british bias

[regal needle]

It's always what Sky do

[sharp hull]

If it was Russell to Max

They probably wouldn't do it

[hearty nacelle]

Nah wth was that race

Red bull with their Ferrari ahh strategy

[regal needle]

Alex Jacques back in 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix had to react quick when Lewis hitting Max

He said "Oh! He side down the inside and he's taking Collide!!"

[lavish ore]

dq or race ban

fia are setting a dangerous precedent letting max just slam into other drivers with only a slap on the wrist

then again when have they ever been consistent

[radiant scarab]

Sky sports been on that ban max verstappen juice for a while now

Meanwhile their shitty grid walk is so cringe they had to send Nico Rosberg in to do it instead

Need to refocus on what's important

[slim hornet]

Hi

[knotty mist]

because its been 10 years.. its insane hes not been race banned. For example he got 10 seconds for an intentional collision. George got a drive through for corner cutting.

Explain the logic

[lavish ore]

george upset the stewards saying he'd take the penalty lmao

apparently worse than a deliberate collision

[knotty mist]

intentional collision is about the no 1 thing you cant do in motor sports let alone F1. The dude went prime Santino Ferrucci yesterday and didn't get banned. Ferrucci was basically banned from driving in europe due to that

[radiant scarab]

What George did in Monaco was two middle fingers right in the fia's (and his team's) face
I liked it but they didn't
But how come sky sports didn't put up a poll to have George disqualified?
Max on George was a racing incident, it happens more than you'd like to admit, it's okay, no one got hurt and they all slept well in their million dollar apartments

[forest dock]

Its sky so it could be just "should every driver that isn't British be DSQ" and the results would be similar.

[radiant scarab]

Bro does not watch motorsports

[lavish ore]

"""racing incident"""

lmao

[radiant scarab]

Yeah, Charles and max had one right before but I don't see anyone weeping for Charles
Grow up lol

[lavish ore]

charles tapped max trying to get the slipstream, george understeered slightly into max, max slowed and went straight on a left turn to hit george in retaliation

[radiant scarab]

Even Charles "inchident" leclerc brushed it off as nothing major in the post race interviews man, relax a little

[lavish ore]

get real

[knotty mist]

Racing Incident . You should do stand up.

[lavish ore]

it's actually insane how many f1 fans need glasses

[radiant scarab]

No one got hurt and they both finished the race. Move on with your lives man

[gusty canopy]

insta verstappen fans V twitter hamilton fans V tiktok norris/leclerc fans
who has the worse fanbase

[fickle forum]

it's insane how the internet has ruined the fanbase

[lavish ore]

me when people are discussing formula 1 in the formula 1 discord server

[gusty canopy]

you move on with your life lol it shouldve been more than 10 seconds

15

[lavish ore]

stop telling people to not talk about race incidents wtf lol

[radiant scarab]

Disqualifying max because you hate him isn't F1 it's stupid

Beat him on the track without the shenanigans

[gusty canopy]

nobody said we wanted max to be disqualified

[lavish ore]

i did

[gusty canopy]

ok

ur stupid (sorry for saying this i know that editing the message wont do anything cuz u have logs)

but

[radiant scarab]

.

[radiant scarab]

<@&781898349006684170>

[fickle forum]

had he not given the position back maybe

[gusty canopy]

bro 😭

[radiant scarab]

Be nice dude

[shadow plank]

THATS REAL?

[regal needle]

Take it easy

[lavish ore]

dq or race ban at minimum, max is a child who likes to endanger others when things don't go his way. Deliberately hitting another driver should come with a severe punishment and 10s isn't nearly enough

[regal needle]

Definitely real

[shadow plank]

NOOOOO

[wooden socket]

He got a 10 second time penalty I think its enough

[gusty canopy]

your such a rat bro

[radiant scarab]

I think the main issue for Max's frustration was his team asking him to give back to George what George hadn't earned, everything spirals out of that

[regal needle]

Don't worry, It's already a Penalty

[gusty canopy]

goody two shoes over here

[stiff bough]

last time a driver intentionally hit another car they got a 10s stop go. Arguably the same penalty max should have gotten but the stewards had gone even softer

[lavish ore]

he wasn't even out of the points. George got punished more for cutting a chicane

[gusty canopy]

just because somebody doesnt agree with you doesnt mean you should rat them out bro that makes me want verstappen to be blacked flagged now

[stiff bough]

.mute 1320760698766360588 1d continued toxicity

[jade mural]

gucci.coffin muted veepwel_54481 for 1 day. Reason: continued toxicity

[radiant scarab]

Bro decided to double down
Control your emotions a little better it's just sport, not life and death

[stiff bough]

literally wouldnt have done a damn thing about the single comment but they had to continue 🤷

[wooden socket]

But he was 10th, thats just 1 point

[shadow plank]

MAXXX😭

[lavish ore]

only 10s for a deliberate collision just isn't enough, and we all know max is going to do it again now that he's pretty much out of the title battle

[radiant scarab]

I know:(

[shadow plank]

MY BABY MY BABY

[radiant scarab]

Lol

[lavish ore]

1 point more than he deserved after his actions

[stiff bough]

every point counts, but the fact that cutting a corner gets a harsher penalty than intentionally hitting another car is crazy work

[wooden kettle]

💀

[radiant scarab]

Did Russell get points on his license for cutting that corner? Just curious

[wet sequoia]

Nope

[lavish ore]

i like max, he's an exceptional driver and one of the best we'll ever see, but he's still the same angry teenager he was 10 years ago who likes to throw tantrums when things don't go his way. Only problem is max's tantrums manifest as actual dangers on the track

[radiant scarab]

Then I think they were harsher on max, rightly so

[wet sequoia]

It would have been a stop-go if there was time for it

[radiant scarab]

Exactly

Even so, with the points

And the drop to p10

For a driver on the wdc chase

Max got the brunt of it

[late cedar]

what is this chat

why are there two f1 chats

[shadow plank]

Idk

[radiant scarab]

One more inchident and the raceban ensures he can't compete for the wdc this year

[wet sequoia]

One for general talk, one for GP talk

Another to avoid the circus

[radiant scarab]

This is the channel that goes live for the race

It gets crazy busy

[late cedar]

y'all talking about the drivers championship?

just like the constructors championship, it is dead

[shadow plank]

I STILL BELIEVE IN TUTUTUTU MAX VERSTAPPEN

[late cedar]

oscar is consistently faster than norris

[latent forge]

https://tenor.com/view/oscar-piastri-leomano-le0man0-gif-13606761991373951579

[late cedar]

believe in him to do what

[shadow plank]

TO WIN

[late cedar]

calm down he's in a relationship and he has kids

[shadow plank]

What is this f1 fandom even about

[shadow plank]

FR

[lavish ore]

unfortunately max sabotaged himself i don't think he has a shot anymore

[shadow plank]

:<

OMGGG

[late cedar]

as if he ever had a shot

he has to fight like this just to have a shot at p3, not p2/P1 where the mclarens are

and then he loses his mind over it and loses the podium

[latent forge]

Damn is😂🎉

[shadow plank]

Mclaren is shi-

[radiant scarab]

The shi

[fickle forum]

it was the whole weekend already, then redbull decided to pull a ferrari strategy and so it went

[radiant scarab]

They built a crazy car

Christian horner vanishing act needs to be studied

[shadow plank]

Ok

[late cedar]

yeah

he's been silent

[shadow plank]

Idc

[late cedar]

you should

your favourite driver's team is in shambles

[brisk harness]

Max's Coach has been pretty bad with all the calls in spanish GP

[shadow plank]

Shhhh

[shadow plank]

Fr 😭

[latent forge]

redbull downfall is crazy

[fickle forum]

lambiase usually is incredible but idk what he had

[late cedar]

this could be the year redbull finishes outside of p3 in the constructors since 2009

wait I need to check that

[shadow plank]

Lambo kalambo😭💔👿🖤

MY DADD

#my second love Mercedes

[late cedar]

redbull finished P4 in 2015

[shadow plank]

Kk

[cyan nimbus]

?av Amix

[jade mural]

Avatar for amix_aa

Link as

png | jpg | webp

Play games on Carl-bot. Use /games list to see available games!

[late cedar]

so th second time and 10 years since the last time

it really is a downfall huh

[lavish ore]

it was a matter of time

[cyan nimbus]

💀

[lavish ore]

no teammate and a horrible car, what can he do

[late cedar]

pity won't help him

[brisk harness]

that Hard Tyre cost max a lot

[shadow plank]

Fr

[fickle forum]

and now terrible strategies, what else will come

[shadow plank]

:<

My baby my baby....

[maiden pine]

mad verstappen racing team*

[radiant scarab]

Bruh

[fickle forum]

max is playing f1 25 myteam career mode, gonna need his own upgrades, own strategies

[shadow plank]

EJ WHAT BRUH?

[radiant scarab]

Who's EJ

[maiden pine]

max will be the world champion, but only in his twitch😓

[shadow plank]

Omg....

Nvm

[late cedar]

too bad

[latent forge]

ts

[maiden pine]

atleast the 33th is coming🔥

[late cedar]

mclaren fans are gonna be obnoxious with their drivers title but whatever

[radiant scarab]

33th💀

[late cedar]

mv33 or alonso's 33

mv33 is more likely

[radiant scarab]

Deep

[latent forge]

both

[maiden pine]

after years of suffering

i’ve been a fan since alonso was here (2015)

[radiant scarab]

They won it last year already

[maiden pine]

both

[radiant scarab]

Oh my bad

[late cedar]

no glory in the constructors title

[radiant scarab]

Yeah drivers title will be skullface emoji

Save us Max

[late cedar]

atleast for the fans

[maiden pine]

only constructors because max verstappen racing team can’t win alone a constructors title

[shadow plank]

Oh fu- tham

***them

[late cedar]

you can swear in this server

[shadow plank]

I don't want to be bad

[radiant scarab]

Ferrari p2 this year it's the only thing keeping me going right now💔

[latent forge]

man united of f1

[radiant scarab]

Ferrari?

[latent forge]

pretty much

[maiden pine]

most likeky to be Milan

[radiant scarab]

I was told arsenal

[maiden pine]

likely

trash keyboard

[shadow plank]

I'm only 15....🥲😭💔

[latent forge]

graveyard of legends

[shadow plank]

BROTHERRR

[late cedar]

mobile game ads be like

[latent forge]

nah arsenal has no trophies

[shadow plank]

Fr

[maiden pine]

i think ac milan fits more than united

[late cedar]

Leclerc gonna sell out to mobile game companies 🙏🙏🙏😭

[shadow plank]

WOOOW

[maiden pine]

because even the legends can make good appearances, but the team always makes a way to bottle it up

(or himself, sorry seb)

[latent forge]

seb choked so hard tbh

[shadow plank]

YOO ANOTHER ONE

Fr

[maiden pine]

i wonder how it would go if if he didn’t crash in Hockenheim

[shadow plank]

U know what I don't like verstappen anymore....

Because I love FRANZ HERMAN

[radiant scarab]

Who

[late cedar]

it seems franz hermann genuinely beat the lap record for NLS at the nurburging

[radiant scarab]

Oh for real?

I thought max denied those allegations

[shadow plank]

...

[late cedar]

misha charoudin said it

[stiff bough]

thats not possible though

[radiant scarab]

Hard to know what's real anymore

[stiff bough]

his lap he lost 4 seconds of laptime alone from traffic

[latent forge]

and mostly from iracing experience

crazy

[late cedar]

https://youtu.be/l4sLx0uEz8s

i just watched this video

the guy is pretty reliable for everything nurburgring related. he predicts all of the lap records set there

[crude flame]

Like three other cars are also said to have beaten the lap record

[latent forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-generated-cat-brainrot-yapping-talking-gif-10474450742835294051

[crude flame]

so Max also supposedly doing so is irrelevant

[civic star]

Hi

[shadow plank]

Max should be in my house

[maiden pine]

i only know FRANZ HERMANN.

who’s this other kid?

[late cedar]

what drivers

[latent forge]

kevin estre>>franz hermann

[stiff bough]

real

[smoky agate]

real

[cyan nimbus]

can max verstappen steal franz herman's seat, wife and daughter?

[stiff bough]

its a bit breezy in here today isnt it

[crude flame]

The Manthey Porsche and ABT Lamborghini

drivers are unknown

[cyan nimbus]

🤓

[maiden pine]

i think danyil is looking into it and planning

[crude flame]

Verstappen is said to have done a 7:48 but the Manthey Porsche did a 7:46 and the ABT Lamborghini a 7:47

[maiden pine]

what was his car?

[late cedar]

296 gt3

[maiden pine]

fire🥵🔥

[crude flame]

Ferrari

[maiden pine]

i hope his mental is ok

[late cedar]

no the 296 GT3 is very good

[smoky agate]

Ferrari only suck at f1

[maiden pine]

i saw it

[smoky agate]

they're alright everywhere else

[late cedar]

i watched a video on how easily replaceable the body components are

[maiden pine]

they’re doing great this year at the wec

[maiden pine]

how can i steal a mouth

MY PRINCESS😍

[late cedar]

AF Corse F1 Team 🙏

AF Corse Ferrari sounds cooler than ferrari hp

[latent forge]

Anolso 🔥

[late cedar]

italian always sounds cooler

[radiant scarab]

Ayo

[late cedar]

they should've named the f1 25 ultimate edition the "ultima edition"

wait not ultimate sorry

icona edition instead of iconic edition

imagine how much COOLER it would be

[radiant scarab]

Who

[late cedar]

all that aura farming for this

[radiant scarab]

Oh that was a girl? Damn

[maiden pine]

bro

i have a request from her

i never saw it until now

i’ll flex that to the gang

and flex that i have 14 sequencial victories in F1 2013 in the hardest difficulty

🔥

and it gets worse

it was in a WILLIAMS.

[fickle forum]

Silver livery with red accents as special would go hard

[radiant scarab]

Sounds like a car I know

Jesus that quality is not it

[solemn egret]

So there is a possibility of Felipe Drugovich replacing Lance in the Spanish GP.

[peak zephyr]

F1 fans are very silly about the grid walk

Just be a normal adult and don’t lose your marbles over someone declining an interview

[keen vine]

e

[lilac rose]

Evidence?

[rotund thorn]

How do I get an F1 guild?

[keen vine]

emotional damage

[dire condor]

isn't he driving lemans?

[raw plaza]

Man if u see landos interview sky sports really wanted him to say something about max .like i get it they don’t like what max did i dont but you can clearly see how much they’re trying to ruin his image asking about “what does this affect his appearance to kids” like who gives a fuck .schumacher did stuff like this b4 and drivers look up to him

[neat fern]

I don’t get people sating this sport is getting soft, Schumacher got dsq from the championship like what 💀

[raw plaza]

Schumacher got angry and speeded so fast out the pitlane

[smoky spoke]

their just trying to stir up the pot like anyother media, their like annoying bugs who does anything to cause a bigger scene

[raw plaza]

I’m not talking about whether dsq was deserved or not just how much sky sports were trying to get something out of lando when they don’t need to

[smoky agate]

people look up to Schumacher because when he wasn’t being a dick he was mighty fast

I don’t think that’ll change with Max and future drivers

[smoky spoke]

but like, this GP was the worst one i have seen from red bull this year. and if they want max to stay their doing an amazing job at the opposite

[raw plaza]

yea it’s just annoying how much sky sports love doing this even in 2021 they just didn’t like max at all

[smoky spoke]

yeah, they did it under Max's interview as well. but as usual he doesnt budge at all and gives them as little attention as he can

[raw plaza]

Yea lando did the right thing not talking about it

[wicked vortex]

Max giving position to russel and immediately trying to take it back is such a max thing to do

[smoky agate]

eh most drivers would do that I feel lol

[wicked vortex]

probably not on a turn like that though

[smoky spoke]

but the mclarens are cooking tho. even tho I absolutely despise them u can't deny it

[smoky agate]

plenty of times there have been incidents where the driver says ‘oh this is a convenient place to give the position’ and it’s like 50 meters before a DRS zone lmao

[raw plaza]

I don’t think he did it deliberately to me it was just things piling over and over with the hard tyres Charles and then being asked to give back position when he felt he was ahead (which he was)

[smoky spoke]

this season has been one of their best so far compared to their recent once

[smoky agate]

nah exactly on turns like those, that’s where you can run someone off the road if needed

I think Prost did something similar

[wicked vortex]

aint that like.. penalty worthy?

[raw plaza]

it’s gonna be tense at red bull tho like the team won’t be happy at the same time it was their decision to swap when max told them he doesn’t need to which he was right

[smoky agate]

yeah Max got a penalty for it too

[smoky spoke]

it might be because russel drove in to him as well which made the whole thing worse

[urban zenith]

The incident was clearly ocons fault

[raw plaza]

Man if max gets a race ban it would be fun to see red bull as back markers

[smoky agate]

like I’m just saying if you’re gonna race dirty that’s the kind of corner you do it on

[raw plaza]

💀💀

[smoky spoke]

intentionally or not, it just fueled up max even more

[wicked vortex]

"he just crashed into me"

[raw plaza]

ngl it would be so hard for them to get into top 10

[smoky agate]

would be funny yes

[smoky spoke]

looked more like over steering he Russell trying to save it, so it might be wrong place wrong time

[raw plaza]

Well atleast the yearly crashout happened

[smoky spoke]

but what do I know, it might have been intentionally

[raw plaza]

let’s hope for better weekends now

[wicked vortex]

Chaotic weekend to say the least

[smoky spoke]

yeah. well lets just hope this weekend is gonna be better

[wicked vortex]

also hulkenboints? dayum

[raw plaza]

No race week ngl good considering how this weekend went

[smoky spoke]

suprised as well lmao, he was cooking in the worst car on the grid, give my mans a mercedes seat!

[raw plaza]

Man we always start a triple hearse with a win and end on a sour note

[wicked vortex]

maybe audi will cook next year

[smoky agate]

doubt

[smoky spoke]

honestly no, for their first few years, i dont think so

[smoky agate]

will take them at least a year to get settled in properly

and then a few more to do well

if they have that capability

[smoky spoke]

give Audi 4 years to get comfortable and they might start to cook

[smoky agate]

4 is a bit high but yeah they are likely not going to be good out of the gate

[wet sequoia]

Isn’t there room for engine tuning in 2028 for penalties

Considering that’s when Cadillac will use their in-house engine

[umbral talon]

hello

[umbral talon]

what do you mean by this

i heard engine

[smoky spoke]

with learning how the engines, chassis, strategies and how everything works over all, 2 - 3 years.

[wet sequoia]

I think I remember something about allowing engine tuning in the middle of the next regulations era so we don’t have another Alpine situation

[umbral talon]

erm its not like audi will have it any rougher than any non-manufacturer team, theyll be on a short notice to maximise engine integration whereas audi's will be fully suited to their car

[wet sequoia]

But your budget caps will get destroyed

[umbral talon]

what kind of tuning though

[wicked vortex]

damn

[wet sequoia]

Equalising power output, because Alpine is so far behind they can’t work on it

[umbral talon]

Huh

Renault is ending their powertrains department no?

[wet sequoia]

Yes

[umbral talon]

At least in the sense of producing new engine

Yeah so wdym :/

Technically manufacturers can already tune their engines it's just very restricted

[wet sequoia]

#monaco-gp message

Read all of it

[umbral talon]

You mean changing vital aspects like compression ratio, camber shape, and so on?

[smoky spoke]

too bad Renault isnt in f1 anymore, it would be amazing to see them again but most likely wont happen for a long time if even at all

[wet sequoia]

I think, because Alpine have had to suffer because their engine sucked and are limited to the results they can produce

[umbral talon]

Well because we're seeing engines from 2022 rn just with reliability upgrades

[wet sequoia]

And considering you have 2 brand new manufacturers coming on in the next era they don’t want a field with 2 permeant back markers teams with worse engines

[umbral talon]

The power has been the same since then

[wet sequoia]

Alpine can’t produce the same power

Ferrari is the best but not by much

[umbral talon]

Because Alpine hasn't tried

Since 2022

I don't think performance was the cause for the department's shutdown because we're essentially looking back 3 years behind to when engine development hadn't been frozen yet

[wet sequoia]

They haven’t tried for much longer then that

The last few eras their engines have been horrible

Hence why a lot of teams went to Mercedes and Red Bull partnered with Honda

[umbral talon]

Pretty sure they have management issues as well

Not to mention that they aren't the most cashloaded bunch

[wet sequoia]

They definitely have management issues

But they bought alot of investors on in 2023

[umbral talon]

After the engine freeze

[wet sequoia]

No I think this rule is to make sure Audi and Cadillac don’t end up another Alpine

Considering it’s their first years

[umbral talon]

No it's just that after the pandemic engine development has been frozen

[wet sequoia]

Well Cadillac is 2028 so 🤷

[umbral talon]

When engine regulations change they'll always re-allow it

Like 2014 with unchecked development, and then 2015-2016 with the engine tokens

Then 2017-2019 with open upgrades

And the leadup to the freeze

2020-2021

[wet sequoia]

Yes but they’ll no doubt freeze development again

[umbral talon]

After years yeah

[wet sequoia]

And go through this whole scenario

But there has been no development this era mid season to current engines

[blissful orbit]

you do you, to me a DSQ is not viable

[wet sequoia]

I think it’s very viable (But we still don’t have Max’s front onboard from the incident)

[fresh warren]

https://streamable.com/s6176b

[wicked vortex]

why was max on hards

[wicked vortex]

darn..

[modest mural]

Because they didn’t have another tire

[fresh warren]

He shouldn’t be walking away from this race with any points IMO, very clearly hunting to punt George there

[forest dock]

Staying out on used tires would most likely have been better strategy Verstappen is very good and defending and Norris pretty mid at overtaking so i feel like Verstappen should be able to at least hold him back.

[desert hemlock]

Almost died today.

A robber came into my house with a loaded gun and aimed it at me.

Luckily, Lewis Hamilton Spanish Grand Prix highlights were playing on the TV.

He suddenly started watching and fell asleep. Thank God 🙏❤️

[sly badger]

No,it wouldn't work

[austere trail]

At least it wasn't the monaco gb

[warped compass]

bro have they made the onboard cameras like 1 or 2 seconds delayed?

[desert hemlock]

i could watch the whole race and sleep

[blissful orbit]

I doubt tbh, against fresher softs but yh, P3 was possible at least

[vagrant helm]

probably just wasnt synced well

[forest dock]

I think P3 should have been more possible if he stayed instead of pitting for hards.

Norris and Piastri struggled to overtake Verstappen in Miami while their car was like 0,6s faster.

[solid lichen]

yea

[still forge]

I feel he would absolutely keep P3. He was on hards and barely still in Leclerc's DRS range before he got told to switch with Russell.

[blissful orbit]

tbh, there was a chance Verstappen could've kept P3 if it weren't for that holy snap at the restart

actually, much likely i belive

cuz after a lap or two, Leclerc's pace started to drop heavily. Verstappen was in Leclerc's DRS to about 7 tenths on that lap right before the incident

[terse aspen]

They didnt really struggle in Spain though thats the thing

Norris took what, 2 or 3 laps?

[raven wagon]

Yeah well Max didnt even bother to defend

[forest dock]

Because Verstappen didn't defend

Their was no reason for him sacrifice his race to defend against Norris in Miami there where a risk for rain so it made sense to defend against the McLaren drivers there.

[terse aspen]

Even if he does defend

I dont see it being more than a lap or so more

His tyres would have been ultra dead

What are the chances he gets a bad restart too, seeing as he would be the race leader