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Bearman too
if only good drivers could be with the right team😔
Bortoleto to McLaren!!!
no
alonso to max verstappen racing
i feel like he could join WEC/WRC
McLaren has to two good drivers. they arent risking that
Not gonna lie if norris keeps this up he might be gone by like, 2027
Norris is doing good rn
100%
He went from 10th to 4th
yea race was good, fastest on track on sunday
i love oscar
me too
100% the better mclaren driver
yes
I think Oscar is going to pull a Max Verstapen 2022-2023
only time will tell🐟
same tbh
he’s won 3 of the last 5 races lmao
a wipeout
half the f1 fanbase cried when tsunoda pitted
I think Tsu is a underated driver
a horrible year for team LH
40% Dutch National Anthem, 40% Australian National Anthem, 18% British National Anthem, and 2% SMOOTH OPERATOR
i honestly don’t get the hype tbh
He doesn't understand the car yet
i second this i felt pain
I think he might get top 4 in the championship standings for sure if he figures out his car
i just like his style (fashion) and the fact that hes a chef tbh lmao
Hamilton won 3/4 races in 2021
doubt it, the top 4 looks very strong
im not saying this year
but maybe next year
or the year after
i didnt
yea tsunoda prolly gonna take this year as a break in year unless they sack him
neither
I didnt either
Wait
who do you guys think was at fault for the crash
lawson and stroll were shit as usual
ppl will hate me for this yuki like my top 5 least favrite drivers and if u say thats racialy motvited albon in my top 6
lawson did good
and that is known as a lie
kept with his teamate the whole race
Who was at fault for the crash
<@&265886100227096576> still no #rate-the-gp tisk tisk
idk
Tsu or Gasly
so u only hate japanese
?
no i just dont like yuki
just rage baiting fair opinion to have
did he hurt your feelings when he took slowsons spot
I think thats fair
I don't like Str
or Albon
imo lawson is better then albon
nah
Hadjar is underated for sure
Hadjar my fav rookie
well that’s your opinion
i’m pretty sure no one shares that opinion with you
but ok
Lawson got kicked from redbull after his second race 💀
time will tell, all we can say is both got cucked by rb
might be lukewarm idk
lukewarm
- Not this year
- Maybe
- Maybe
- I dont think so
i wouldn't say both ferraris
yeah
lewis is probably getting beat by kimi just because of how extremely different the w15 and sf25 are
like it was a learning curve to begin with
I think Kimi could be Lewis
But not Charles
rn
but we've seen that it was bigger than we thought it would be
Charles is in a tractor
thats probably my hottest take then
He needs to get to a better team
I think all but number 2 are valid
Leclerc is doing okay
Leclerc will be better if he has a better car
Exactly
.mute 1032791842963599382 1d rule 1 - slander name
gucci.coffin muted oneboiledpotato_ for 1 day. Reason: rule 1 - slander name
2025 march 😛
are u being fr
Where is that rule
I didnt know that
I can't read the full channel name what does it say
no stream stop asking
Ion see it
LMAO
Only says be respectful
so you do see it
But it doesnt say nicknames
If I called you a nickname to mock you, am I being respectful or disrespectful
disrespectful, but 1d for that is quite harsh
it is the standard punishment for toxicity 👍
So technically Goatifi and Mazespin is also muteable (Dont mute it was just an example)
They could be yes
Mkay
Expanded rules are stated in #mod-guide which should be available for you to view
they don’t have modlogs role selected :P
Says no access
i don’t think the dutch national anthem will occur that frequently unfortunately
Go to the channels and roles selection, scroll down to (optional) other server roles, and select modlogs role
Monza 2019 - so around mid to late
uwu
without the penatly he woudlve won
Is that doohan ?
He looks so small 😭
doohan needs to be replaced
GOOD JOB CHARLES 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
I slept as soon as the race finished, Charles finally on podiummmmmmm
what happened
Why do you say that
Oh yeah same!
I was already dozing off in bw
bc mclaren is dominating so bad its the race of who’ll get 2nd in WCC
You’re right
Even being last in q3 doesn’t stop them
and if the race was 5 laps longer lando would’ve gotten a podium from P10
but the penalty was weird imo, max should’ve been asked to js give the position back
its giving 2018 canada
They went easy I’m guessing
Overtaking max?
the real takeaway is williams double points
charles i assume
Ohh 3rd?
Shit I thought 2nd lmao
yeah, its unlucky, max put up a good fight but oscar is a brilliant driver in a brilliant car
charles
stuff like this happens, still hoping for a max wdc
yeah same he truly deserves it. getting two poles in a rb21
oscar’s start was insane
and max’s start wasn’t bad
williams is safely the 5th fastest car rn imo
i think that one mistake along with not giving the position back at t1 quite literally costed him the race
faster than haas and alpine
mclaren > merc > rb > ferrari > williams ? maybe idk
the rb came alive in jeddah, it was really nice to see
he should’ve won without the penalty, but if my mom had balls she’d be my dad so we have to stick to the reality.
ferrari wasn’t slow i think 3rd fastest at least. lewis has issues with driving it
if my mom had balls she'd be my dad
dude speaking of ferrari
charles is such an unhateable driver
says nothing bad, drives well, is funny, friendly and looks good as hell doing it
thats true. still impressive how he managed to get a podium in jeddah. should’ve gotten a podium in sakhir too but safety car happened
alright, im gonna go be productive now, here's to miami fellas 🫡
in 2 weeks right
i think so
bro has not had a sauber for 10 years
Stroll says the dumbest stuff
for some reason this just doesnt make sense to me
Like no shit if you have the slowest car on the grid you're not gonna have the pace but also Strolls had a decent midfield car for most of his time racing
idk if its how its worded i just cant make sense of it
Hes just making excuses
blud needs to lock in
Basically Stroll was saying that because of his new record of most Q1 exits out of any driver that if you put the mclaren drivers in the sauber car for 10 years then they would take the record
Ohhhhh
Literally the dumbest statement ever (aside from stroll blaming all his crashes on everyone else)
real
half of his career were in dogged cars so
TEAM STANDINGS
1️⃣
- 188 PTS
2️⃣
- 111 PTS
3️⃣
- 89 PTS
4️⃣
- 78 PTS
5️⃣
- 25 PTS
6️⃣
- 20 PTS
7️⃣
- 10 PTS
8️⃣
- 8 PTS
9️⃣
- 6 PTS
🔟
- 6 PTS
i mean eh
You'd think the man with all of daddies money would have better PR training
10 pts from lance stroll
Mercedes having more than Red Bull feels like a surprise. To me, I feel like it comes down to who gets better with their car first (Yuki or Hamilton) which will decide the 3rd spot later in the year.
Lance is such a waste of a seat
Team does not deserve to get any better as long as they carry him
Yep because mercedes do not have the seat curse.
did you watch the race bro
Merc did have the 2nd fastest car in some races tho
lance is getting sabotaged
aston martin have a thing against stroll i swear to god above
And Ferrari had two DSQs in china
“yeah lets keep stroll out for 41 laps on hards and THEN pit him when he loses all his positions”
Aston will finish last in the WCC to get the maximum wind tunnel hours and it’s Newey time
2026 STROLL WDC
Oscar ps3 again
ill be dead honest if the FIA president resigns mclaren wouldnt be where it is rn 😭
We’ll see in Barcelona alleged game changer
But McLaren remains very solid in low speed corners so expect them to dominate there
fr i agree
yeah no shit but what was he even asked for this kind of answer
why doesnt autosport include that
becoming the same fuckin slop bs like everyone else
what does this mean
he was asked how did he feel iirc
Fr
not really
if you think about it lance actually provides 1 seat
because without lance there wouldnt be aston martin
The only reason he's there is because of his daddies money
so that would be 2 seats gone
sorry for being rich ig
i mean i cant blame him
I have a doubt will he get paid his salary or will his dad pay the team and shareholders to let him stay?
we have to struggle with the dude for the next 4 years
I stopped watching halfway cuz I got busy but 41 laps is wild
atp im just ignoring mclarens existence because i cant do this shit anymore 💔
What's wrong with McLaren what?
whats wrong with lando norris*
Nah landos annoying but why is the whole team being targeted because of him
because he is mclaren
its like how vertappen is red bull
or ferrari is leclerc
or russel is mercedes
but bro hasnt been in a sauber type car for 10 years, what is he on about lmao
Sometimes the f1 knowledge on twt amazes me lando fans were complaining abt lando pitting (thinking it was because oscar said he’s in dirty air) but it was because Charles was fast enough to close the undercut and if lando wanted any chance he had to put
1 Weeks left until it's Race Week again
Wheres the next race at
miami
Thanks
he got it printed out, probably in his fridge for the next few days
Who got DOTD?
Max
The Ferraris deserved more votes
nothing wrong, it's the same with norris fans who gives him dotd for no reason
definitely, leclerc deserves the dotd this time
Pulled a Monza with those stints
China Antonelli was dotd which was strange 
He learnt from Toto
Man, Yuki got a tough break
Was that penalty fair?
what penalty
max penalty? if anything too light
lol what how is it too light
it is what it is
Max is too tired to even be upset 😭
Cut the interview short
Quiet in the cool down room
Straight up started drinking straight from the champagne bottle
It was probably 5 seconds because of race start
the FIA document stated he would've gotten a 10 second penalty but because it was the race start he was given 5
now why Lawson got one when he made a deliberate effort to try and stay on the track
🤷♂️
Lawson's penalty was plain dumb
Fia in McLaren pocket fo sho
no argument there
well they gave Lando a pen in Bahrain
Max has always known the rulebook better than the stewards. He did what he had to do.
He already completed the move on Doohan aswell
yeah that's why there's a rule change coming in Spain that targets McLaren's main advantage
should've just been a warning
please don't mention Doohan i'm depressed
he wouldn't even have gained time
every other team fan says that every other team has fia in pocket. The rules, whether they help my team or not, suck ass
master strategy
He put Oscar in dirty air and gave himself a chance to pull away for 5 seconds
That's gonna affect other cars also
It's about being "in control of the car". Lawson locked up and went off the track before the move was done.
If he didn't make the move, he was doomed to keeping up with a faster car in dirty air.
Max knew it wasn't happening
yeah i don't know what the hell that was
at least the guy wasn't last
all i'm saying
He fully overtook Doohan before even reaching T1
he knew as soon as they made the call that shit wasn't gonna work
Max got an advantage out of his maneuver fully knowing it was illegal
He just knew it was worth the penalty
Look at the documents, he was ahead, yes, but he couldn't make the corner, therefore it wasn't "officially" "complete"
Him going off the track didn't help him overtake Doohan
but they're hypocritical as fuck with these being in control bs too because they dont apply the same logic when a defending car does it
What's the new rule incoming following Spain???
It's so refreshing to see Max fans finally realise that pushing people off corners is actually bad
Like
My god how many years did that take
I've known for a very long time
that pushing ppl off is bs
When Max does it I complain when Oscar does it I complain
Absolute shit show by the FIA
Try reversing the scenario, it’s not pushing people off it’s “hard racing”
And Max’s driving style
If Max was on the inside it would've been he forced him off
If max was in Oscar's place he still would have received a penalty
yeah it was quite brash of Oscar, like guy could've left more room
but i did get a chuckle from Max complaining about it like
"It's his corner and he has full right over it" insert wojak crying angry red face
I mean any driver is complaining about that
from any series
because you are literally being forced off
fully alongside
Oscar would have gotten 5 second penalty
i mean at least it's not some shit like Mazepin in Abu Dhabi in Asian Le Mans
that shit was just straight up facepalm
Anything Mazepin does is facepalm worthy
I honestly don't care anymore
that's how people race me in GT7
You clearly care, since you kept bragging about how happy you are seeing Max get a taste of his own medicine 
i just refuse to race online in GT7 lol
for that reason
actually i don't race online in general
Yep you're correct 💯 I'm just glad someone actually forced max off fully legally while in a championship fight
its funny when max is the guy setting the president for how to force someone off and this was not it. like las vegas 2023, austria 2024 are some ones that come to mind
FIA can do their shit now
Real shit
although GT7 does force you to race nice by giving you more money
Fuck arguing about the rules
and you know, i like money
especially since they made the McLaren F1 like $12 million now
like wtf it was only $1 million in the older games
trying to get realistic 😭
yeah let me just buy a literal hypercar from a dealership
but a McLaren F1? nooooo
have to take a whole bank loan for that shit
Vegas he got a 5 sec pen, Austria well he also got a pen
yeah those are proper examples of forcing someone off
The fans would've whined that Max forced him off
Brazil 21
even more than people whining that he was forced off
bro lacks self reflection
?
Yeah
"Max was ahead at the apex"
oh yeah lol
Mexico 2024 was one of the most egregious things I've seen
Piastri for 25 WDC
we shall see
i do hope so
at the very least the 15 year drought is over
something Daniel never got the chance to break
Piastri has the momentum
Lando needs to get back on his feet
but I think he'll struggle more if the car isn't to his liking
I'll be honest, i'm sure Lando would've won had he started from pole
the issue is he ruined his entire weekend by crashing
You're probably right
Isn't norris good at adapting
Oscar was close to him, but he was always just that little bit off
especially in qualifying
I've heard people talk about it but I don't know
which was surprising given the last two years
I mean there is only 1 overtaking opportunity and the rest of the track you're just rotting in dirty air
nothing but highspeed
¯_(ツ)_/¯
this year is probably going to turn into a qualifying series
the teams have all figured out how to bring back the dirty air the FIA tried so hard to kill off
yup
and i probably bet the teams did it on purpose
they did for sure
because yes it gives you more downforce anyway
It's just natural when you're trying to make ur car faster
it also makes it harder to get overtaken
aston martin started it a couple years back
I doubt it was intentional
the whole reason why the rear wing was curved was to eliminate dirty air
when teams started figuring out how to bend the regulations and make the wing straighter, that's when dirty air started coming back
i mean yeah its down to the FIA to make rules that encourage it- not force it
which in 2022 it did work, the following problem improved from the wide body cars
okay maybe it wasn't intentional but that rear wing innovation brought it back as a byproduct of better optimization
i can remember back in 2022 when Merc brought the front wing with the little veins on it
and everyone complained about them trying to make turbulent air
I love how the teams are so ready to jump on eachother
as soon as there is a minor inconvenience
F1 teams have always tried to complain anything they deem to be sus 
Even as far back as 2009 with Brawn
I fail to see how it was Max's fault there, he had to go outside to save his car after oscar pushed him
Oscar had the first whole apex there but still decided to move outside, this is totally hilarious.
FIA
Max used the apex later, it should've gone this way.
it shouldve been a 10 second penatly to max
Oscar was on the inside defending max, "ahead" of the apex clearly which entitles oscar to all the space, max tried lunge down the outside and was never making the corner and kept the position
Its a clear cut penatly for max which, for max he shoudlve been happy with only a 5 second penatly because ultimately that 5 seconds did not affect him really at all since he was able to get clean air, and it was evident how much faster you were in clean air compared to dirty air
i fail to see how oscar shouldve got a penatly being ahead throughout the entire corner
Lando should've gotten a penalty not Piastri
because he wasnt ahead at the apex 👍
Clearly disobeying the simplest of rules
therefore not entitled to any space
and besides which, this is the type of move Max has done on numerous occasions before himself.
at the corner specifcally aswell many times,
max said he had no intention of making the corner when oscar legit made the corner and didnt go wide
lol
Gianpiero Lambiase be like:
Max? Max! Umm, So let's give the position back to Piastri. Let's do that strategicly
he did go slightly wide
2021 Flashbacks
not off track limits but slightly wide
Yeah, then when Oscar left no space he was forced to skip the chicane to avoid dmg, kimi did that as well.
max should have given the place back after the corner
he tried to send it around the outside and it didn’t work
No one said he should've gotten a penalty though.
realistically it should be a 10 sceond penatly espically because its lap 1, its the place to gain the most advantage with least cost
i think it’s actually the opposite because it’s lap one the penalty is reduced
no it makes sense
it doesnt
first lap has way more chaos with cold tyres and brakes and other strange stuff
Your encouraging people to dive bomb and cut corners on turn 1 for the lead in an era where passing is near impossible
If max didnt get a penatly, he woudlve won the race because of it,
thats how imortant leading after turn 1 is
And if my mum had balls she would be my dad 
that’s true this era makes clean air way more important
but like that’s been the rule for so long
Doesnt mean it should make sense
Thank you hersheys
ig but oh well
I showed my friend to f1 today and he said his fav was verstappen and i showed him that clip😂
Do you want an era of racing where people will take the leniant penatly and break the rules over clean racing?
no
you’re right
Oml its the water
why they banned swearing
i love listen to swearing*
idk if my grammar was true
eh
The only one i can reasonably watch is the Sprint 😭 everything else is past 2:30am
I live in america😔
oh boo hoo
Thats mean😔
That's not the reason - it's trying to fit 20 cars into 1 turn and its super tight so there's going to be touching that's why its a mitigating factor - the drivers legit all agreed on it lol
No shit the drivers agreed on it, they get punished less, Max has time and time again abused the lenient penalty on turn 1 and gained an advantage more then the penatly.
Oooo they arguinggg
well not this year or this race so don;t really see how its an issue now
Literally happened this race
he gain and advantge more then the penatly was
no he didnt haha - he was in 1st place, the other option was to give back the position which was 2nd
which is what he came with the 5 second penalty
its not like the move affected russel
not in the first stint
They having debates up in here
how did max win DoD?
Uhhh
It hurt oscar in the first stint, the reason max didnt give the position back was becaue he knew the effects it would have on his race, You want the drivers to decide if they want a penalty and track position, gain an edge because its not a harsh penatly, or be forced to hand it back because its a harsh penatly
lando p10- p4 was insane
Yes?
It sort of was, in that car its to be expected although its difficult to overtake so
Nah 🙄
difficult to overtake but he overtook
he was blistering
the way he caught up to george was insane I thought he would take 4 laps minimum in 2 laps he was at the gearbox
Nah russel was just slow🧐
Just admit he was good holy
eh i thought it was a fair enough penalty tbh, i can see why lap 1 vs further into the race affects the stewards decisions
I see my rage baiting is working
😭
😂🙏
lando is so slow that race tbh
he shouldve won
Only took like 40 smth minutes
Yeah lando sucks🙄
Actually a turtle 🐢
I just think that its stupid to let a driver get away with breaking the rules pretty much under the guise of its lap 1
Surprised doohan didnt out perform lando today🤦♂️
like penatlys should hurt drivers races to deter them from doing illegal actions
doohan honestly is a mid driver
wow
colapinto should be in, genuinely
have some oil!
colapinto was on pace with albon last year
OIL???
: |
WHERE?
im oil
YO WE COMING DONT WORRY
I see a future world champion in franco colapinto
WHAT
doohans preformance is showing how much he wants to replaced
I think doohan might have a chance to be good but honestly nah
Uhhh
should give him some time, but atm he isnt fast
I think around when mid season comes up they need to decide
im a baby fym
Huh
they probably will wait till nxet year but, doohan is really underpreforming atm, tbf there is high expectations and he is a rookie, but he isnt even competing really with gasly
Yeah like franco prolly would already be fighting for points every race
But he is a bit inconsistent
hes lucky he got away with not getting a penalty, it was a clear line cut of the pit line, but still he somehow got away with it
isnt it been pretty rare for them to do pitlane penatlys
idk but ive rarely seen one
not many drivers actually do that prolly thats why
Last time I really seen one was austria I think 2020 when yuki got like 2 penatlys for crossing it
but a line cut is a line cut, youre breaking a rule thats literally there in every motorsport
on the entry
Yeah I know, im just saying that ive rarely seen one been enforced recently
Lando cut it on entry and exit
while entry is debatable, exit was very clear
fair, I havent really seen the clip of it
Catching up on the race, only just started but "Lance Stroll knocked out of Q1 for the 75th time in his career. That's a new record he didn't want."
SAVAGE
im sure they do enforce it whenever they see it, because its quite rare to do such a mistake which you can control while being an F1 driver
but ofc British have different rules
Nah they should’ve penalized ocon for waking up this morning( I literally support the team he drives for)
(And i am a fan of him)
I remember carlos crossing the line or someone and it wasent penaliess recently but, cant pinpoint an exact moment justoff the top of head acnt remember, and yeah it is rare for them to make a mistake like it
they shoudlve penalised stroll for racing this year
Entry yes, exit no
Dont say that in #formula-1
whats happening there
The entry doesn't really matter as long as they're down to the pit lane limit
exit yes, watch the replay, FIA also said no further investigation required on Pit Exit
I havent tuned in to it for like 10 minutes due to math stuff
No idea ngl
Are you talking inside line or outside line
if they cross the line on entry (where the track meets the pit lane) and when they reenter the track on pit exit
the one white stripe in which u have to stay till it ends then you can join the racetrack, that one
which merges the pit lane with the circuit
that one
His full wheel didn't go over that line
Nah just penalize the whole grid because why not
Unless the full wheel goes over it's not a cut
If he is on the line it's no penalty but if he passes the line it's penalty
So exactly as u said
Nah 45 second penalty
a full year race ban
Nah forced out of F1 entirely
212 points on the license
Banned from existence
yes
B R U H, YUKI
Lmao😭
Aw man, Yuki out. That sucks.
Yeahhh
I blame Gasly
banned from eing bwanned
That move was never on idk how they considered that a racing incident
I personally think gasly shouldve backed out
in the wall without yuki
He chose crash
Uhmmmm a grandstand?
Better than crashing out my boy yuki 😤
Oh nah i was abt to say an empty grand stand
Stroll is basically me in the F1 games. Mostly shit but occasionally pretty alright.
I actually don't know if this is called "pushing off" or max should've just backed out
I hope sharing screenshots of official f1 youtube channel videos won't get me muted lol
yeah
He chose to go off the track and gain an advantage
I don't see why we would mute you for that
Anyone can see it
just making sure
unfair racing
a fairly big advantage
And that's why he got a penalty for it
imo not harsh enough penatly
or didn't fight
He still lost the win so ig that's worse than a harsh penalty
i think 5 seconds was enough imo
not really, it was fair enough
10s would be too severe
Yuki walking with the lady towering over him gave me "Mum is taking me to the shops" vibes.
it shoudlve been a 10 second penatly as the rulebook states
max got 10s in mexico for divebombing lando pushing himself and him offtrack
idk what the rulebook states
depends on how much of an advantage he gained, and Max didnt gain much, so 5s is fair enough
10s would've been good if he had gained a much bigger lead, but with the SC coming out right after, I think 5 seconds was the right call because all the drivers were grouped together
exactly
@molten saffron your pronouns are so good ngl
based
Thanks lol
You can have a read if you want lol
109 pages, fuck yeah this is the kind of dull stuff I'm into
in the end, max didnt lose anything from the penatly
he lost a place and a race win?
He woudlve been p2 without going off,, and doing it he ended p2 anyway
dont know what ur talking about
it wasent his place to have or a race for him to win,
Albon being sassy again
albon always sassy
wdym it wasnt a race for him to win
How was it
He shoudlve been p2, and he didnt have the pace to keep up with oscar when oscar had clean air
DRS, Pit Strategies?
they nearly pitted at the same tiem
i mean who knows, its Max Verstappen we're talking about
he didnt get away with it though, just becuase you felt the penalty wasn't harsh enough doesn't mean he got away with it
it should hurt their race not entirely kill it, especially lap 1
If he gave the postition back he most likely woudlve finished p2, not giving it back, he finished p2, he didnt lose anything
taps sign
I feel like max should of gave the position back and not a pen
exactly because the action that he did only affected 1 person?
so 1 position
thats up the teams discretion, max chose to take the pen rather tthen concide the position
if it was lap 2 he tried that move on when people were further spread aprt he would have got a 10sec so
i don't really get ur point
legit only because of lap 1 that it was 5 sec not 10sec
wdym you dont get my point, he didnt lose anything from breaking the regulations
Nah Max thought he was in the right as always and got a penalty anyway
i guess we will agree to disagree
how did he lose somehting
red bull is really good at damage limitations
he got the 5 sec penalty which allowed oscar to easily 'overtake' in the pits
and he didnt have to attack max as hard
5 seconds mean nothing to red bull
not being in the clean air affected his race alot more
you lead race you have way more options
not really, he FINISHED P2 WITH OR WITHOUT THE PENATLY
thats why he didnt give it back
He shouldn’t of got the pen Oscar pushed him off the track
You also have clean air which gives you a big advantage,
but this considering taking the penatly and illegally gaining a position you dont dseerve, isnt good racing
do you realy want dirty racing?
Im saying it shoudlve been a harsher penatly to deter max from illegally gaining a position and keeping it
bro the action that he did warranted the penalty that he got i don't know what else you want me to say - oscar was going to get P1 through the move he then got it through the penalty either way.
How was he going to finish P2 without the penalty when u just said clean air gives you the biggest advantage he would have created a gap from piastri
??
i dont want it, but winning takes more than just racing sometimes, especially when the odds are stacked against you
Wow people are really talking about that still
If he gave the position back (no penatly) he finishes p2,
my thinking is that a harsher penatly should deter it from happening
thats on FIA
giving the position back is a consquence of the illegal action both punishments would have been enough to put max P2 (the position back or the penalty)
Max dosent deserve the pen like it looks like he was pushed off
doesnt matter that he didnt give it up
so he didnt lose anything
p2 either way
as i've said, red bull can figure out how to make a loss disappear
same to you, you dont understand what im saying
2 opinions that leads to the same conclusion
tbh, you realise max didnt even win barely any races the second half of last year
I wish people could move on, The FIA clearly has a document out for that incident
well thats them doing damage limitation
if they werent good at it
who knows, maybe lando would have been champion
max is also good at it
it goes both ways
Lmao whats that name
Because they had development troubles since spain 2023 they didn’t say anything bc max was winning
max had a super start to the year
Wasent it because they didnt realise due to max winning?
he didnt have to lose anything if he only affected oscar's race you feel me?
They knew it but they just ignored it
rohan Fernandez
still bringing it up?
probably, wonder if perez was telling them how bad it really was
if you cant win on merit, you fuck others up
He should have just given the position back
shumacher says otherwise
I don’t want lando to win a title he’s so entitled
schumacher does both
fair
Don't trigger his fanboys
I will
didnt he crash out of a race then lose the championship because he failed at rcashing someone out of the race
big disagree tbh but i just don’t like him so fairs fair
As a Alonso fan I will trigger his fans
he turned into Villeneuve
Wtf is this channel called
yeah but didnt villuenerve finish p3
#monaco-gp lmfaoooo
i mean there are a lot of tricks he pulled that rarely gets mentioned
best way to win the championship is if you kill all your competitors
crash at monaco quali to get pole
lewis actually is the cleaner driver because he wasnt as dirty
he won on merit more than he had to pull tricks
didnt schumacher let vettel pass
yeah
which let vettel win like the 2012 or 2010 championship over lewis
Idk if Max really go outside or Piastri forced him?
because he liked vettel of lewis
ah yeah
mexico 2024
I have a model car of vettels damage 2012 brazil car
same story
max on the inside
alongside
forced lando off
lando cuts and takes the position
5 seconds for max on that alone
Based on likability
Well
with the ammount of penatlys max gets, you think he would be close to a race ban
Piastri looked like he pushed him off track imo
well yes he is entitled to
its his apex
but then max can say "ok no room i'll cut"
I hate the FIA they confuse me so much
but then he has to be alongside again if he wants to be fair
because you cant just leave and zoom off
thats the point
he left and gone ahead
Stroll over Alonso 🥀🥀🥀
he should have left and be alongside or close to piastri
alonso this year has been ass and unlucky
there's also an incident on lap 1
Ohh perfomance
antonelli locked up on leclerc
cut the chicane and went ahead
but he gave it back
I thought it was by likability
: |, if it was in terms of how I liked them it would be a very differewnt list
Yh mb Thats on me
FIA ruling is weird
there are loopholes that you can use
thats why they make flexiwings
likeability
thats why they can circumvent penalties
That’s why I prefer Indy car at times
It’s not one team running the series bc all the cars are equal
equal cars arent equal tbh, if the teams can set up the cars to go faster than others its not really equal
but its more fair than f1 ig
I mean equal cars ruins the entire part of f1 being an engineers sport
but I agree it should be closer
But they dont spend like eight billion dollars on the car just for it to flop
didnt brought up f1, i was going to say f2 would be the prime example
and redbull and merc dominating the 21st century post 2008
untill 2024 there was only 2 ever teams that won the wdc and wcc
after 2008
Damn that overtake from Piastri on Hamilton was pretty sick
In Indy car the teams have to buy the chassis and either a Chevy for a Honda engine
2009 (brawn = merc)-2023 only redbull or a merc won a championship
thats why they have cost cap now
back then is "whoever can throw the most money in"
red bull is a huge corporation
well
I’m not a fan at the cost cap
ferrari is the biggest ofc
it isnt a perfect solution
Like how is sauber still slow
ferrari is fast
a cost cap still doesnt help lower teams unless they severerly lower it
you cant say they arent fast in some of those years at least
like 2016-2019 they werent that far off
I mean ferrari spending the most money is a prime exmaple of money not winning everyhting
Thats Aston Martin
2017-2018
2016 and 2019 they were mid for half o those years
2019 after cota (cheat gate :))
they didn't even win a race in 2016 lol
untill cota they were fast
then 2020 was their shit of their shittest
it was an engine flow regulator or something
it didnt help them on slow circuits, only fast circuits
aka the only ones they won
I'm pretty sure 2020 is one of, if not the lowest Ferrari has ever finished in the WCC
singapore monza and spa
fuel flow sensor
Yh it was
they have an illegal fuel mapping
i double checked it's still 1980 where they finished fucking 10th
but still
they finished 6th in 2020
MBS should be fired lowkey
yeah, it helped them at the 3 circuits they won but it wasent like a best car all year round hting
but its not that i think, they also overfuelled the car after they specify their fuel load
which is illegal
Mbs should be fired as president of the FIA
and the trick only benefitted tracks that needs low end acceleration
they used more rich fuel then was allowed wasent it?
What good has he done since being president
more fuel as in volume
like they would say on paper they have 100kg which was regulated
but then before race they put 20kg more
Sebastian Vettel should be president of the FIA
Although it wasent confirmed if they had cheated right? it was only rumours + slowing down after cota
its effectively confirmed
pretty much but there wasent a statement
there's only one statement that said them and FIA reached an agreement
not do masi things
and then it led to their downfall in 2020 which they have been rebuilding since, and got far in 2022
mattia binotto is engine god
he was also the worst strategist on the grid
he isnt responsible for strategy
he sucks at managing the team
yeah but it was the meme at the time
as a whole
now good ol fred is in charge
for TP you really need a glue guy
a guy that people like to work with
not a guy thats technical
an engineer will never be a good TP
thats why binotto sucked
Pretty much, you gotta be a good businessman
if you look at Stella, he is also an engineer
thats why zak brown is there even though technically he isnt a TP
I may be incorrect but like williams budget doesnt reach the cost cap I believe, which is the problem with the cost cap
you have to really severe when lowering it, because unless you do teams like williams will be stuck in a limbo of not having enough money
tbh idk what zak even does when he goes to races
he's like the foreman of a construction site
makes the team happy
stereotypical foreman, rather
Yeah fair, he is a busy man tbh, Doesnt he handle like alot of racing teams
zak brown
I like fred
ferrari is still in a rebuilding phase
he was relaxed at alfa romeo, and now hes back with leclerc
desperately need a change of direction
they had a good chance in 2022
but since then they have been the 3rd/4th fastest
kinda in that like redbul 2018-2019 position when they arent fast enough to make a charge for the wcc, but not slow enough to they cant win some races
Sainzs was decent, but hamilton probably wont be it for them, lerclerc will need to do the heavy lifting
leclerc is what schumacher was to that dominant era
without the success
yea, but then he went on to win 5 in a row
lewis joined merc when they were pretty mid
then won 6 for them
prior to schu, they also had the same drought like they have now
lewis to charles is what schumacher was to lewis
The 20 year gap ish where prost and senna era
Yeah, its abit to late now
i already know it wont be an 8th
but what i know is leclerc can learn from lewis
hes has more race starts then alonso, and he started later then him,
lewis contract ends in 2026
After 2026 with an option for 2027 no?
Leclerc is a "young" driver to go out and have success, lewis will be the experienced driver that ferrari need to help build the car for a few years
2+1?
well option is still an option
Stroll is leading! (In terms of tyre age)
I think he gets his 8th by hook or crook, by 2027
its not but, atp ferrari would realise that lewis isnt their future
they are smarter
i hope
there are many ifs
2007 is just bad karma from mclaren
I'm just thinking about how wild it would be if he won in 2007 and said he's happy to win his 8th wdc
2016 was rosbergs one and done with f1
People would lose their poop
He never gave lewis a chance to one up him
Genius guy
That one wdc was equal to 8
2016 and 2021 are seasons that you can say he might have been robbed of
2021 is pretty stupid
2016 is questionable
oooooo, thats a topic for a diferent day
2007 you can say he shoudlve won
i wont say whats what
but 2016 and 2021 is really pushing the ifs
2007 is also crazy
its pushing the if the least of the 3
but he didnt lose because he was unlucky
but its still an if
it woudlve been insane if he had won
if he did it wouldnt have been a debate even
ifs is dumb because there is so many instances in every year like 2008, massa shoudlve won because glock, etc
schumi vs hamilton
its sport
like 2021 max had his fair share of dnfs out of his control
things sometime just doesnt go your way
so did lewis
its just shit happens, and the result is final at the end of teh day
I also dont remember
Something with Doohan I think but I didn't think he really went off. He went deep, but not off. Could be another one.
Or I could be misremembering
Onya Oscar
i wish yuki didnt dnf :(
I can't even read the whole name of this channel on mobile lol
mayhaps
Max is innocent Thats not a pen
Agreed
So biased for McLaren
Like I don’t mind Oscar it’s just the FIA
And lando norris I just don’t like him
in a team that kissed Hamilton's butt & gave him priority in everything it was a smart move to move on because I doubt Mercedes would have let him beat Hamilton a second time even though the first time was partially luck
Reasoning is clear for the Turn 1 incident.
Norris is losing a LOT of good faith with the fans I noticed - Piastri just seems a better driver, less (British) media hype to make him arrogant (which has clearly affected Hamilton, Russell & Norris) and within his own team he seems to be the underdog and everyone loves an underdog
Piastri is just a nice dude I’ve seen in irl and he’s a cool guy
Load of bullshit
Fr
