monaco-gp

[frigid sandal]

its likely gonna happen, lando has an ego

[steep lagoon]

agreed

[cinder trench]

hes P16

[cursive quest]

it’s definitely an interesting season, mclaren had a bit of an edge at the moment but it’s definitely competitive between the drivers. Cant wait to see next year and later this season

[haughty marten]

Pretty much.

[subtle crest]

Prost did it in ‘89 when they were teammates and Senna pulled it in 90’ when Prost was at Ferrari

[frigid sandal]

idk abt oscar tho hes too cold

[frank glen]

Who would have thought we we would be talking about George in the top 4 instead of Charles & Lewis

[regal needle]

Ted Kravitz gets his Mochi

[cursive quest]

i’ve backed george since day 1 he’s finally getting by the love he deserves

[frozen seal]

i think mclaren is probs gonna take wcc, wdc is really anyones game atm

[haughty marten]

WCC is basically McLaren trying to hold off Mercedes

WDC is HELL IN A CELL. THUNDERDOME.

[cursive quest]

lmaooo 100%, with all this competition anyone can snatch it

[tacit seal]

Could be worse atleast that number has 1 in it so basically p1

[frank glen]

When Kimi locks in and gets consistent, the WCC will get spicy

[haughty marten]

We didn't expect Ferrari to continue doing a Ferrari.

[frank glen]

Honestly what did they do with last years cars? Is it true they got rid of it and borough a new car this year?

[cursive quest]

i was scared this season thinking that he might hold us back between the ferraris and redbull but to be fair he’s doing very well as a first season and he’s definitely got a lot to offer for the future

[subtle crest]

I feel like they used all their luck in 2007 and now they’re modern Ferrari

[haughty marten]

That's why I mentioned Mercedes.

They're the only credible threat to McLaren at this point.

Red Bull is basically Max doing a 2018 LeBron

Ferrari....is Ferrari a.k.a. the Dallas Cowboys of F1

[remote holly]

bro, verstappen...

[cursive quest]

i’ve got a pic with kimi 🗣️🗣️ bro is shorter than i expected 😭

[cinder trench]

😭

[livid yacht]

What Max is doing is very impressive, but we truly have no idea how fast that car actually is

[subtle crest]

Is he shorter than Jacques?

[frank glen]

I like how the WCC competition is McLaren vs Mercedes vs Verstappen Racing 😭😂

[cursive quest]

if ferrari lock in they will be scary, like last year end of season i don’t wanna be seeing that again 😭

[haughty marten]

Max is literally the only reason Red Bull is remotely relevant rn this year.

[cinder trench]

real

[livid yacht]

Because the car is completely designed for him 😂

[inland jewel]

Kimi ain't gonna be fighting for WCC lets be honest here

[cursive quest]

he’s 4cm taller than him

[haughty marten]

The big question is....

Will they?

[raw plaza]

Do u think Liam will try to make yuki life hard tmr

[cinder trench]

no their strategists already fucked up 10x

[frank glen]

Will he has too, he doesn’t have a seat currently for 2026

[inland jewel]

Yeah Ferrari sounds like a better shout

[haughty marten]

Cause let's be honest

My patience is running out with Ferrari. Even as a rival fan

[cursive quest]

ofc but if russel keeps consistency and antonelli puts points in its still pressuring them. Maybe a silver war of the mclaren’s??

[tacit seal]

Hulkenberg will pull a alonso singapore 08

[frank glen]

Idk, they seem to have issue with the roll height constantly

[raw plaza]

I think Kimi has proven to be a good prospect after first two races

[inland jewel]

Yeah but idt he can fend of the ferraris/max maybe even yuki who knows

[cinder trench]

im basically neutral to everyone unless they be a spas (like lando in zandvoort24)

[haughty marten]

I thought this year Ferrari would make us shit our pants in the WCC race

But nooooooo they're still doing Ferrari things

[livid yacht]

Max prefers his cars front weighted. That is the rarest form in racing, arguably 1/50. Then partner that with wanting his cars to be hyper sensitive, it’s no surprise that so many drivers struggle with the 2nd RB

[frank glen]

Ferrari spent more time aura framing for 2025 than they did preparing for he season.

[cinder trench]

but like ferrari strategy ts pmo

[cursive quest]

if you think someone like kimi who had been with Toto since ages in his karting and formula days there’s no way he won’t be there until at least 2030

[subtle crest]

I wonder if McLaren would be willing to do that for him if they managed to sign him

[wild mauve]

hadjar best rookie rn

[subtle crest]

Antonelli, I think

[frank glen]

I think Stella and Zac knows it’s better to have 2 cars fighting for points rather than one. They will tell Max to put up with it

[livid yacht]

Unlikely, unless they can find a rookie front weighted preferred… Why would you want to compromise the whole team?

[cursive quest]

antonelli’s melbourne performance was great he’s just got to get sm good quali positions

[stiff bough]

oh now its running out? It took 17 years for your patience to start to run out?

[teal tendon]

#monaco-gp message

[haughty marten]

I meant this year.

I expected them to be our biggest competitor.

But they keep on fumbling the bag.

[livid yacht]

In his F2 days he was always known to perform best in the rain. Mid way through the season, he was actually underperforming until it rained

[frank glen]

I’m more of a Team LH fan who moved to Ferrari cause I want Ferarri to do well for Lewis. My opinion as a Ferrari fan isn’t that loyal. It’s contractual

[stiff bough]

well, 'underperforming', but still either usually ahead of Bearman or matching him.

[inland jewel]

I wouldn't have believed u if made that remark at the start of the season. BRO IS GOOD!

[cursive quest]

yh fair enough, to be fair he only did a year at f2 so wasn’t expecting him to be the best off the spot. I watched his silverstone sprint race in person and he was absolutely dominating that in the rain

[livid yacht]

Up to Mid way through the season he wasn’t!!

[frank glen]

I think people forget, Hadajr and Borto went into the final F2 race basically tied. The car stalled for Hadjar which meant Hadjar lost the championship

[neat fern]

Do we know if it’s gonna rain?

[stiff bough]

I watched last year, I don't think he ever fell behind Bearman in the standings after Australia

[haughty marten]

I should clarify

I thought Ferrari had grown out of their fumbling habit this year

But nooooo

[frank glen]

El Plan strikes again. Slam the car and rate the man who beat his worst enemy

[stiff bough]

and yes im accounting for bearman missing jeddah, and then countering it with antonelli missing abu dhabi

[livid yacht]

People were expecting a lot more of Kimi, which is ironic given his first season, but the expectation of many was that he’d walk through it

[raven wagon]

Prema last year were bad at setting up the cars

[stiff bough]

im not sure what else there is to expect

he beat his teammate

[livid yacht]

Toto and Helmut came out a few times during last season saying he needed to step up 🤷‍♂️

[stiff bough]

toto said that?

[raven wagon]

Marko?

[stiff bough]

i dont really give a shit about helmut because hes senile

[raven wagon]

Why is he commenting on a driver that isnt even in the Redbull academy

[stiff bough]

maybe hes jealous he missed out

[haughty marten]

He's too down bad knowing that he can't find Max 2.0

[radiant scarab]

Max vs the McLaren's is what this season should always have been, I'm so happy right now

[livid yacht]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/sainz-back-in-mercedes-f1-2025-frame-as-antonelli-needs-to-swim/10631751/#:~:text=Having entered F2 as one,new-for-2024 car.

quote from Toto, not Helmut but backs my point

[blissful lotus]

Goat recognises goat

[stiff bough]

Fair enough, but I think he always did perform after getting to the euro leg of the season

had a few poor races but it's all about managing expectations

[thick fox]

aw damnit i just realized i get off work tomorrow at 21:30 and the race starts at 22:00. fuck.

[slow cloud]

Max is on low downforce (quali setup)
McLaren have the better car (also starting 2-3)
Yuki is on high downforce (race setup)

[stiff bough]

Bearman had been in contention for an F1 seat at Haas since before his 2024 F2 season and Ferrari debut, and I think the fact that Antonelli beat him as a rookie with the jump he made in the ladder on top of doing it comfortably was more than good enough, it certainly exceeded my expectations

[golden narwhal]

the grit and tenacity of max verstappen should be studied

[slow cloud]

Lando or Oscar is winning, there’s no other person who can

[raven wagon]

The guy on pole exists

[cursive quest]

it’s so nice to see the mercedes post comments actually being positive and not about george and lewis car difference 😭

[thick fox]

[citation needed]

[cyan saffron]

Well, there are 18 other drivers as well who can.

[quiet gulch]

Lets be real here

[slow cloud]

Theoretically yes
In reality no

[neat fern]

who is that?

[golden narwhal]

lets be fake actually, Lewis Hamilton will win

[cyan saffron]

You may notice why I have written can how I did.

[raven wagon]

Considering Suzuka being hard to pass, having good straightline speed might give Max the edge on the straights, where overtaking is really possible there

[neat fern]

ham will win

[quiet gulch]

Not even

[slow cloud]

Max is on low downforce (quali setup)
McLaren have the better car (also starting 2-3)
Yuki is on high downforce (race setup)

[haughty marten]

Best driver vs the Best car

Poetic

It's like the 2018 NBA Finals

LeBron vs Steph and KD

[livid yacht]

Yeah exactly, but it did take a while

[golden narwhal]

max verstappen banking on clean start and clean air is ballsy

[raven wagon]

And again the best possible place to overtake is on the straights, so having good straightline speed gives Max the edge considering the setup

[stiff bough]

wouldnt low downforce be a race setup and high downforce be a quali setup

[neat fern]

theyll slipstream him

[slow cloud]

If Lewis wins I will run around outside in my boxers with a cup of tea and knock on all my neighbours doors

[stiff bough]

since when you're doing fast laps your straightline speed doesn't matter as much compared to the race

[golden narwhal]

only if you actually get track position

[neat fern]

BET, i wont forget this

[golden narwhal]

low downforce in suzuka sucks balls cause dirty air is still bad

so if you dont have pole you cant really capitalize on anything else because all of the track is just corner after corner

[fast orchid]

hiiiiii

[molten copper]

Hiiii

[golden narwhal]

you can only use low df in s3 straight which is only 1.6km i believe

[fast orchid]

wsp

[raven wagon]

Imagine its like Stroll last year against Yuki

Max took the risk of running low downforce, which is contrary to the high downforce circuit and it worked

[golden narwhal]

most efficient car is mclaren rn but they still dont have that straight line speed like red bull
their efficiency comes from loads of downforce into the high speeds

[lilac nova]

Yuki

[proud crystal]

did you seriously expect anything different

[golden narwhal]

this isnt very high downforce
its high enough to think about putting a more loaded wing for sure but most of the df is from the floor and i think today red bull ran a super low car

[lilac nova]

Just makes me feel depressed

[golden narwhal]

so they can extract mostly from that floor which has been top 2-3 best for a long time

[proud crystal]

the number 2 redbull seat is a tale of woe

[brazen wharf]

Where’d tsonoda finish

[dusky root]

P15

[golden narwhal]

lando actually lost speed to max down the s3 straight but spoon curve was so so good it masked the fact that mclaren is still a bit draggy

meanwhile max had a very tidy lap that minmax all parts of the track

[round sand]

bro he said put all the pressure on me

[proud crystal]

stroll though

[grim egret]

I sometimes forget he is on the grid

[proud crystal]

lance teh dad drive stroll

[inland jewel]

Or the 2022 wc final, mbappe versus the entire earth (except france)

[proud crystal]

how long till yuki booted from rbr

only blue names please respond

[tawdry lotus]

hi

[grim egret]

end of the tripple header

[versed jolt]

Over a year

[proud crystal]

screenshot

ill hold you to that

[grim egret]

p15? he wont be long

[hexed sinew]

The grass is to blame

[scenic remnant]

Rip

[tawdry lotus]

what

[scenic remnant]

Pastritute

[cyan scroll]

Lawson seems to be doing better at RB

[earnest vessel]

Well it's safe to say I believed in Yuki..

I believed

[grand nymph]

LETS GOOOOO

[candid oxide]

yuki is quite good in that rb

[cyan scroll]

Yet somehow Tsunoda will score more points than Lawson after the race

[candid lion]

Hadjar outqualifying Lewis, tsunoda and Lawson lol

[grim egret]

crazy

[cyan scroll]

Then it's good he came back to RB bcos he's looking really fast there

[craggy widget]

french power

[candid lion]

Bro said fk it lemme do this alone

[brave ridge]

I am holding out hope that Tsunoda will climb up into a good points position. If Bearman can get P10 from 17th (later promoted to 8th) in a Haas, surely Yuki can score from P15 in a Red Bull

[craggy widget]

my prediction for japan:

everyone gets disqualified except for yuki and liam
then we will find out who is better

NO NOT OSCAR OSCAR ALREADY P1

[brave ridge]

even oscar?

[cyan scroll]

😅😅

[candid lion]

True but beating tsunoda who's in a red bull and being a rookie. Also the Ferrari of LH

[brave ridge]

third time's the charm disqualifying everyone except yuki, liam and oscar

[cyan scroll]

Yeah, I'm starting to think RB will be strong this year

[sonic epoch]

He's got a grid penalty

[candid lion]

I think it's going to be the same as the qualifying. Max p1 and lando and pia p2,p3

[cunning rune]

DAMN!

[tender junco]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-have-nothing-cant-beach-sea-gif-15877075

[cyan scroll]

True

[neat fern]

SAINZ

[sonic epoch]

In red bull the car chooses the driver

[royal herald]

Sainz pen

[slender viper]

Sainz noooo

[cyan scroll]

Albon has outperformed Sainz in all races so far, he needs to up his game

[candid lion]

True, Horner said they were both running the same engine. Max's driving style is absolutely aggressive and the car suits him well. Committed every sector. Just a beast.

[sonic epoch]

3 place grid penalty for impeding Lewis

[regal needle]

Carlos gets a 3 Grid Penalty

[sage raft]

He was 12th, but will start 15th

[craggy widget]

correct

[cyan scroll]

They def will

[candid lion]

Max is a wet weather master mate. He definitely has higher chances of winning if goes errorless tomorrow.

[craggy widget]

did liam deserve the demotion? no.
do i still like yuki getting the seat more? yes.

[narrow garnet]

The rain is mainly pre race tbf

[grim egret]

stroll to start from the pits?

[cyan scroll]

Hadjar and Antonelli

[candid lion]

Might start on inters no ?

[craggy widget]

i like wet

[candid lion]

That was disaster 😭

[slow brook]

Mmm

[crude star]

tsunoda is slow?
me ❌

yes=⭕️
No=❌

[slow brook]

Yuki fumbled qualifying

[neat fern]

Do we know if it’s gonna be wet?

[candid salmon]

Don't forget that Yuki was only 0.1 sec off max in Q1

[brave ridge]

Exactly

[slow brook]

Yuki should gad atleast in top 10 with that car if max is nr1 in qualifying

[hardy wagon]

Q1

[brave ridge]

I wouldn't put it past Max to somehow win the title in THIS red bull

[crude star]

I was relieved that no one said that Tsunoda was slow. thanks

[candid salmon]

my ranked teammates:

[hardy wagon]

Yuki just fumbled

[rose gorge]

its pretty clear now that the car is the problem I guess

[fiery elbow]

Possibly inters in the first few laps

[brave ridge]

Yuki has a way into the race if Red Bull have better strategy management in changing conditions than VCARB did in Melbourne with him

[hardy wagon]

Red Bull > RB (VCARB) in terms of racing strategy

[cobalt dagger]

How we feeling today chat 😌

[brave ridge]

Honestly true

[hardy wagon]

Yuki P1🔥 🇯🇵

[brave ridge]

RB seem to have the better pace (despite that max verstappen guy dragging the red bull) but red bull have better strategy

[vernal star]

smooth

[hardy wagon]

Just because Max is able to somehow deliver with the car, I will say that the Red Bull and RB have similar qualifying pace. The Red Bull definitely has better race pace though.

[rose gorge]

I wouldnt say the best of all time, cus I can't see him being better than Fangio, but he will comfortably be on my top 5

[brave ridge]

the way max is dragging this red bull into places it straight up shouldn't be reminds me of valtteri's q3 appearances with alfa romeo/sauber in the 3 years he spent there

[molten saddle]

Max will win

[brave ridge]

I think Yuki P8 could be a fairly valid prediction if things go right with that red bull

[torpid charm]

omg bruh the penalty

[vernal star]

My f1 fantasy x3 boost on max will hopefully pay off

[molten saddle]

ofc it will

[brave ridge]

yuki and liam have a buffer position between each other now

[neat fern]

maybe but the racepace of the redbull is shit

[coarse oak]

Yuki had an interesting setup imo

[rose gorge]

If the race is chaotic, I think he will win. He is very good in races like this, Australia this year, Brazil last year too. If everything goes well I say he will finish in third or second

[brave ridge]

oh wait

[hardy wagon]

I think Yuki could get all the way up to P5

[shell chasm]

How the hell did max take pole

[coarse oak]

Downforce focus is what the commentary said

[vernal star]

yuki?

[rose gorge]

shit

[neat fern]

risk everything he could almost crashed like 4 times lol

[brave ridge]

sainz was p12, that pen drops him to p15, yuki and liam are on the same row now

[torpid charm]

because he's the best driver lmao

[regal needle]

https://x.com/Carlossainz55/status/1908447950302216225?t=-KeLRnRY1pzyZiBhYaEg9w&s=19

Carlos Sainz (@Carlossainz55) on X

🇯🇵 Mixed feelings today. We’ve made some good progress this weekend and I felt a lot more comfortable, but Q3 was reachable and I’m obviously not happy I missed it. I prefer to keep the positives and let’s focus on the race!

👉https://t.co/NSmKuloRIG

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#CarlosSainz

X · Apr 5, 2025, 9:13 AM

[rose gorge]

I answered the wrong message 😭😭🙏

[frigid sandal]

shouldve been here earlier

[coarse oak]

this weekend so far:

[torpid charm]

which is why he's the best bcs he's pushing himself and shows why he's a 4x wdc 😂😂

[hardy wagon]

Well really, it is just that the Mclaren drivers were so bad at getting a good lap with their cars. They could've been minimum 3 tenths clear of Verstappen

[frigid sandal]

and made it work on the last chicane fuckin crazy watching it live

woke me up better than the coffe i had in my hand

[polar nimbus]

Quali was insane. Norris broke the lap record for provisional and max immediately broke the record again to take P1. Thats simply lovely

[torpid charm]

wym so bad??? 😭 stop the cap max was SIMPLY better and drove like a beast lmfao these mclaren fans can't give 1 pole to max without finding reasons bro

[buoyant berry]

even piastri

[rose gorge]

Was Sainz punished for that moment when the Ferrari went off the track in Turn 1? If that's the case, I don't really know what they were expecting Sainz to do

[polar nimbus]

Stop the cap bro. The Mclaren already broke the lap record. The McLaren isn't that much better than the RB yall just want the RB to be terrible so badly

[hard brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puWsv5-4ELg&ab_channel=FORMULA1

[hardy wagon]

All I'm saying is that the Mclarens clearly had pace to be ahead of Max, and Max did a good lap

[polar nimbus]

Im tired of hearing people say Max is outdriving the car. You can't outdrive the car. Max can only go as fast as the car will let him.

[torpid charm]

honestly as a sainz fan, he lowkey deserved that. THOUGH he said he wasn't informed hamilton was coming through, it was more on the williams' garage fault for not informing him 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[hardy wagon]

What are you on? The Mclaren is miles ahead of RB lol. What is Issac supposed to be challenging for P1?

[hard brook]

take a look at his teammates in the past 4 years

[polar nimbus]

Teammates couldnt cut it simple as

[coarse oak]

What position was sainz in?

[hardy wagon]

P15

[hard brook]

He was P12

[polar nimbus]

Is the RB hard to drive? Im sure it is. Do I care? No. Get good the car doesnt need to be forgiving the drivers need to be the absolute best if F1 is really the pinnacle of motorsport

[torpid charm]

yeah definietly. if oscar did a personal best in sector 1, he could easily take pole. but max's lap was nothing but perfection which is why he's better and is on pole

[regal needle]

I think Red Bull still had some Struggle but Max can still able to Start Fine as Long as Lando and Oscar can start Nicely as well

[coarse oak]

3 pole sitters

[torpid charm]

was really hoping for an oscar pole because of his birthday but max surprising everyone was definietly better because of the surprise

[rose gorge]

have to watch again, I don't really see where Sainz was supposed to go

[torpid charm]

we can't really say because us viewers don't have a clear view of what's happening unlike the stewards. so there's no point in finding out when the penalty is already given

[rose gorge]

fair point

[torpid charm]

if we had a bird eyes view of what happened, then maybe we can argue, but since we weren't shown what really happened, we're left to just give opinions on it.

[polar nimbus]

he was parked in the apex

[stiff viper]

so will it rain tomorrow

[thin berry]

It’s not like sainz doesn’t have a history of acting like he pays rent for the track

[frigid sandal]

before the start, but anything could happen in terms of countries in the pacific

[torpid charm]

or that he stated he was not informed that a car was going for a lap behind him

[late vigil]

Stroll back to default settings

[livid arrow]

max owner of suzuka idc what yall say

[thin berry]

Still shouldn’t be at the apex on a slow lap, re the whole “paying rent for the track” comment I made

[livid arrow]

i removed his DRS in fantasy

[thin berry]

That would be Prost but Max can rent a corner we’re generous

[livid arrow]

haas domination could bore fans

[coarse oak]

real

[late vigil]

ISACK HADJAR QUALIFYING MASTERCLASS🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ VIVE LA FUCKING FRANCE🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 OUTQUALIFYING 2 TIME WORLD CHAMPION FERNANDO ALONSO AND 7 TIME WORLD CHAMPION LEWIS HAMILTON

[sullen flax]

within 5 races max will be leading the championship again

[molten fulcrum]

the happiest thing that i want to hear is "max verstappen wins the japanese grand prix"

[ivory otter]

4th fastest car beating the 1st fastest car by 0.012s is insane

[molten fulcrum]

cant forget hadjar also did insanely well

[ivory otter]

yeah, with that painful seatbelt

[molten fulcrum]

maybe the seatbelt is what made him faster 🤣

[ivory otter]

verstappen really showed that he's the greatest driver in this generation

[neat fern]

It’s not 4th 💀

[ivory otter]

w16 and sf25 is much faster than the rb21

[snow swan]

Slurs

[floral otter]

tsunoda for sure getting fired in the next two races

[somber comet]

Man what happened to yuki in q2

[neat fern]

It’s really not quali showed that

[snow swan]

Yes please.

[molten fulcrum]

mercedes ferrari and mclaren are definitely faster

[floral otter]

hadjar is waiting to be promoted (or demoted😭)

[neat fern]

Racepace sure but quali apparently not

[ivory otter]

i mean they got upgrades but, why yuki didn't qualify to q3

[snow swan]

AAAAAAGH-

[floral otter]

bro loves the catz

[neat fern]

Old tires and just got into a new team

[snow swan]

The upgrades are NOT gonna help.

[floral otter]

its easier to say that red bull is really bad to any driver that isnt verstappen

[late remnant]

why is slowmode still enabled

[neat fern]

He was closer than 1 tenths to ver in q1 like .56

[snow swan]

Real.

[late remnant]

i gotta wait 30s to send another message cro pls fix it 🙏

[ivory otter]

he oversteers into turn 1

[floral otter]

what is your favorite driver (in person quality, not on racer quality)

[neat fern]

Daniel

[ivory otter]

https://tenor.com/view/verstappen-max-verstappen-f1-racing-jos-verstappen-gif-14899758

[floral otter]

mine might be albon, yuki or sainz, they just so nice and cool

[fossil bone]

slowmode why?

[late remnant]

Jim Clark

[snow swan]

No job-

[neat fern]

<@&781898349006684170> still slow mod

[snow swan]

Alr

[cyan saffron]

Estie Bestie

[neat fern]

Thanks

[late remnant]

most gentleman driver ever
very chill, doesn't like fame, would make friends with anyone

[molten fulcrum]

could argue the ferrari indeed are not faster

[rose gorge]

I wouldnt say much faster, but yeah

[molten fulcrum]

a tenth and a half level of faster at least

[rose gorge]

I do think in normal conditions Red Bull is the fourth or third best car

[molten fulcrum]

max's pole lap vs leclerc fastest p4

[rose gorge]

amazing how ferrari is faster on almost all the straights 😭

[dusky root]

got one between the two mclarens?

[rose gorge]

but rb21s problem is lack of balance I guess

[molten fulcrum]

piastri is in white

[dusky root]

oof

[rose gorge]

shi

[molten fulcrum]

i mean the laps are very similar

[rose gorge]

Norris gained a lot on the straights too

[molten fulcrum]

0.032 apart isnt that far

[rose gorge]

true

[molten fulcrum]

piastri's delta compared to norris

he dropped a LOT of time in the last corner

he was 2.5 tenths behind before the last corner

[snow swan]

Bro's heart was racing😭✌️

[steady falcon]

The last corner must be insane

[molten fulcrum]

yeah its the last chicane

2 tenths quicker in just that lol

[steady falcon]

Wow

Did bro go full throttle

[molten fulcrum]

not sure let me see his onboard compared to lando

[rose gorge]

I hate it 😭

[snow swan]

Woke up to Max on pole

[cerulean onyx]

ngl red bull is just screwing tsunoda and lawson with the rb 21

[queen ibex]

I think Norris took it a bit too cautious, I've seen a telemetry of him, Max and Leclerc and Norris started to brake much earlier than both Leclerc and Max

[molten fulcrum]

now im gonna have to time exactly when both of their laps start

[snow swan]

Watch McLaren take 1-2 tomorrow

[molten fulcrum]

likely

but maybe not

we cant know

[snow swan]

Could happen first corner if Lando gets a good start

[rose gorge]

probably

[molten fulcrum]

if

[rose gorge]

Lando and Piastri will crash on the first corner so max wins (Please God make it happen I want to see max winning 😭🙏)

[snow swan]

Lets not wish a crash upon anyone

[rose gorge]

I'm joking but yeah

realistic it's the only way max can win 😔

[snow swan]

All Max can do is hold them off long as possible

[waxen bear]

i went from hope rooting for tsunoda to pessimism and depression

i feel the pain of ferrari fans

[stiff bough]

just as an fyi for the future, saying something as a joke that breaks the rules is still punishable :)

[molten fulcrum]

so funny how i let my roles from last year to have all the drivers that were gone

[rose gorge]

we all do

[molten fulcrum]

just saw it now they deleted them

[snow swan]

Soooooo Hajdar in for Tsunoda at Bahrain

[lone iron]

at least we can say yuki didnt qualify p20

[molten fulcrum]

rip my daniel ricciardo zhou guanyu kevin magnussen bottas logan sargeant role

[rose gorge]

sorry mate 😔

[waxen bear]

i went from good impression to bad depression

[frigid sandal]

rain

[waxen bear]

praying for yuki smooth operation

[snow swan]

Verstappens teammate by Silverstone

[rose gorge]

I heard it will rain mostly before the race, not during the race itself

[snow swan]

Rain gives Max a huge chance to win

[rose gorge]

true

[queen ibex]

Leclerc started P4 in Monza and Austin last year and won them.
Leclerc starts P4 tomorrow

[frigid sandal]

yeaa 40% percip during the race

[brittle stirrup]

Max showing why he's the best driver of the generation

Outperforming the 1st and 2nd best cars

[queen ibex]

(No I'm not so delusional that I think Leclerc can win)

[waxen bear]

Max needs to get promoted to VCARB he's doing amazing in the sister team

[brittle stirrup]

Fr

[molten fulcrum]

yelistener always saves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRh3GzVvCuU

yeah pretty much that

[hexed halo]

Is there any long run pace comparison?

[molten fulcrum]

seems accurate

max did 4 tenths faster in the chicane

but lost it magically on the short straight

but he still was faster

by 0.021

qualifying switchback

oh wait i just noticed something

max opened his DRS way before lando did at the last straight

while max opened it ON the line and lando pretty much forgot to open it

could also be why he got the speed quicker on that late braking

[fickle forum]

Man he's gonna have to lock in if he ever wants a WDC because this year might be his only chance

[molten fulcrum]

so that could be why he gained 0.021

considering how its such a small time frame

very likely

[molten fulcrum]

yeah you can see he opens it on the finish line

[hushed olive]

Lawson and hadjar ahead of yuki 💀

[frigid sandal]

holy shit?

[hushed olive]

That red bull 2nd seat is damned at this point

[molten fulcrum]

look at it

[fickle forum]

no the car is just damned

[molten fulcrum]

the checo curse

or maybe earlier

kvyat

albon

idk

[hushed olive]

Gasly

[fickle forum]

the vcarb is quicker than rbr

[molten fulcrum]

i mean checo did perform well

at one point

[hushed olive]

Checo was good until like the last part of 2023

[molten fulcrum]

likely its just tsunoda still "scared" of the car

[hushed olive]

And lets not talk about of 2024.....

[fickle forum]

tsunoda already gave a lot of great feedback said horner but ofc that can't be fixed before the race now but for the future

[molten fulcrum]

yeah but its hard to know if he was really practicing that full push qualifying lap

likely not

[fickle forum]

it can always be 1 little mistake that takes out a few hundreds of a second and bam you're down the list

he was p9 in Q1 so

[molten fulcrum]

since he still needs to get the hang of the car on the absolute limit on those well warmed up soft tyres

[molten fulcrum]

yeah i mean Q1 everyone has "similar" sort of times

[fickle forum]

what did he have, less than a week to get used to the car?

[molten fulcrum]

pretty much just doing what they remember from free practice

so can it actually be concluded that lando lost pole position because he forgot to press the drs button

[fickle forum]

they're not pushing too much either yet also gotta keep that in mind ofc

[molten fulcrum]

this is genuinely so funny

[fickle forum]

better than forgetting to close it

[molten fulcrum]

lmao

[frigid sandal]

as much as it ruins max’s pole a bit yea😂

[rose gorge]

the curse began with Webber

[fickle forum]

(i know doohan didn't forget he didn't use the button)

[grave parcel]

lmao

[fickle forum]

i mean pole is pole no matter what mistakes the number 2 has made

[molten fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-doohan-alpine-f1-yapperlawson-gif-9601356909597005957

[rose gorge]

maybe it happened

but the drs simply doesn't open

the flap only opens when it receives a signal from the detection point

I googled it ☝️🤓

or brunno senna

[molten fulcrum]

no it cant happen

[molten fulcrum]

yeah

[proud granite]

So wait do the drivers have to manually close it then bc how did Doohan try to use it into that one corner or is it different for practice sessions?

[rose gorge]

it closes automatically when they brake

[radiant pasture]

Jack tapped the brakes on his first lap, and the flap closed. He tapped them again on the second lap, and it didn't.

[molten fulcrum]

when they brake "enough"

which is what he didnt do

and you dont brake a lot in that corner

so you could do a doohan and

sbin it

[rose gorge]

the "activation" point is the same for everyone or can the teams change it if they want?

[molten fulcrum]

i think they can change

[radiant pasture]

no same for everyone

[molten fulcrum]

im not looking up the regulations

[stiff bough]

kimi's done it before

raikkonen

he did in the rain at hockenheim(?) in 2018

[smoky agate]

love that you have to specify Raikkonen lol

[stiff bough]

new gens dont know about the old man 💔

[lean iron]

"that is insane, pole position"
"YÉÁGHÁE"

[smoky agate]

I know he did it in the rain but was in in qualifying or

[thin dock]

damn max won

[molten fulcrum]

yeah in Q2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGWX91jveYc

lmao

[stiff bough]

ah hungary

close enough

[smoky agate]

ah lol

[molten fulcrum]

close enough lol

[rose gorge]

In 2011, drivers were allowed to open the DRS whenever they wanted during qualifying, right?

[stiff bough]

yeah

[fickle forum]

iceman so cold the car was too scared to not listen

[rose gorge]

wish they brought this rule back

[rose gorge]

theres a thin line between bravery and stupidity

[frigid sandal]

not controversial its actually stupid

anything coulve been behind the smoke kimi was just lucky

[rose gorge]

it was cool af tho

[frigid sandal]

real

[snow swan]

Hadjar at red bull after Yuki dropped after 1 race

[steel sparrow]

that scream from max when he got pole

[molten fulcrum]

max verstappen to VCARB confirmed

[tawdry kiln]

@pliant ore THE SCRIPT FOR THE RACE GOT LEAKED!

[wet sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-seethe-copium-gif-4530870914968371816

[rancid gull]

april fools was 4 days ago

[magic hill]

Catching up on Quali. ||Yuki|| out in Q2 😦

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-8086630669522815021

[mild girder]

bro y is lance at the back

and y yuki p14 :((

[stiff bough]

if there were yellow flags there, yeah sure

[magic hill]

Lance had a lap deleted I think.

And went off at one point

[mild girder]

damn

[molten fulcrum]

just remember max got pole because lando forgot to press DRS button

[lean prairie]

sounds like a SKILL ISSUE 🇳🇱

[molten fulcrum]

indeed

a HUGE

skill issue

[digital lance]

Let's have a quiz

[magic hill]

Bearman's got skills

[digital lance]

"who's this driver"

Fierce and wild

And small

"who's this driver"

Doesn't give a shit

Bro is chill

[magic hill]

Current or past? Because the second, Kimi Raikkonen fits.

Doesn't give a shit, but he does take one, missing Pele.

[digital lance]

Current

[magic hill]

Hmm

Piastri seems like he's chill af. Dude gets Pole and he's like "Yeah fuckin sick"

[vivid belfry]

yuki for the first one yeah

[digital lance]

"who's this driver"

He one time looked like he wanted to get of that one car event

[analog verge]

Poor Hadjar... Can't imagine trying to concentrate with that going on

[magic hill]

It's bad enough when you shift in your seat and your underpants kinda ||crush your balls|| (spoiler'd because it's kinda gross I guess, dunno how strict the mods are)

[vivid belfry]

wait so what happened with hadjar?

i know something was up in q1

[magic hill]

Something to do with the belts, I don't think it's been confirmed but the general consensus is that they were mashing the wedding vegetables

[vivid belfry]

oh damn yeah fair enough

no wonder he couldnt focus

[analog verge]

Still managed to get P7 though

[digital lance]

Mashing the what?

[magic hill]

wedding vegetables, gentleman's area

[vivid belfry]

his crown jewels

[magic hill]

dick and balls

[vivid belfry]

that one lmao

[digital lance]

Oh

[vivid belfry]

no wonder he wanted to get out of the car though

[molten fulcrum]

poor guy

[magic hill]

Yeah for sure, i imagine braking was like being punted

[chilly plover]

Why doesn't Toto attend the Japanese GP?

[proud scaffold]

chat im ngl Max might be the greatest driver in the history of F1

he is p1 with 4th fastest car

imagine the talent he has

[magic hill]

Pretty sure I saw Toto in FP1?

Or will he be absent tomorrow?

[vivid belfry]

i think he stayed in the uk

[chilly plover]

Yeah they said during FP2 that he didn't wake up for FP1 or 2

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/max-p1-verstappen-verstapenn-win-winner-gif-9994117068647617302

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/toto-wolff-toto-wolff-wolf-formula1-gif-24036381

[magic hill]

Oooof, if Piastri didn't butcher the first sector he might has been on pole.

Ahh well

no no no mikey that's not right

[lost moat]

4 drivers into q3. ill take that. just a little bit mad russel couldnt do a bit better

i slept during quali and i just finished watching it

congrats on max what a lap

[barren rock]

everyone should know this by now

[main anchor]

If Max wins, istg

[buoyant berry]

im not a max fan persay, but weve know for years he just broken in the car

[barren rock]

i love your team's name "WilliamsDelulu"

[compact pike]

Thats the problem with both mclaren drivers. They make mistakes during Quali

[jagged cave]

You can’t make this shit up 😭

[compact pike]

Wat happened to Yuki?

Also we can confirm Lawson is worse than Hadjar

[barren rock]

bro got the Red Bull Second Seat Curse

[compact pike]

Yuki could be in q3 with racing bulls

[barren rock]

prolly yeah, atp Red Bull < Racing Bulls

except Max ofc

[compact pike]

Dis red bull is only working under max

[lost seal]

isn't max like literally the only driver on the entire grid that didn't make a mistake today? this track is a menace

[charred gate]

How can you confirm this after 4 sessions and not a single race

[lost moat]

and we have hadjar sneaking into q3 with seatbelt problems 💀💀💀

[compact pike]

Yep. This track has many tricky turns

[digital lance]

Yuki was like:

[compact pike]

Becuz no excuse for he is just learning the car.

[main anchor]

Max Verstappen might not actually be washed

[barren rock]

more like Max only overdriving the car, other drivers not able to use it fully

[silk violet]

I don’t like that p13

😔

[barren rock]

not even close rn

[lost moat]

definitely the best driver in this generation without a doubt. its hard to compare with different eras though

[silk violet]

You are lying😭😭😭

[lost seal]

chat no joke is the VCARB actually better than the RB?

[proud scaffold]

people would say Max is winning because of the car but today we witnessed a masterclass which confirms him being the greatest driver in the history of F1 i mean imagine p1 with 4th fastest car

[silk violet]

Yes

[barren rock]

tbh comparing with different eras is the stupidest thing to do, different cars, different competitors etc.

[compact pike]

I think vcarb is way easier to handle than the red bull

[charred gate]

Wdym he never drove the 2025 Vcarb before

[silk violet]

Its quali mate he’s not won a race yet

[digital lance]

Who were you guys actually rooting for this JP GP?

[lost moat]

i mean i honestly think brazil was even better than today, but it shows hes a complete robot

[barren rock]

so? trying handling an awful car and bringing it ahead of two rocketships and 4 faster cars

[lost seal]

Max getting moved to vcarb mid season would be unbelievably hilarious. Don't know if it would actually work tho i think the RB does have a higher performance ceiling, just near impossible to extract it's full potential

[compact pike]

He had so much time to do in the simulator. 3 practice. If he cant even learn it. He isnt belong in f1. Hadjar way better.

[lost moat]

alex 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💙💙💙🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭

[barren rock]

only max is capable of extracting it, as seen today

[silk violet]

Yes but cmon there’s a lot of drivers better I’d say he’s top 5 of all time most definitely but not top 2 or top 1

[compact pike]

Newey left and the engineers dont know wat they r doing

[lost moat]

that pretty much sums up the whole redbull situation

[compact pike]

There were few drivers who could overperform under a slower car

[silk violet]

Vcarb is currently better but idk i have never driven it

[lost seal]

Yea. RB downfall needs to be studied. If it continues like this shitshow i honestly have a hard time seeing max staying til 28. Wonder if he'd go to e.g mercedes tho or just retire

[vivid belfry]

i think if anything max will retire

[compact pike]

He will not retire.

[queen ibex]

Same, I think that Max would be better in the Red Bull than VCARB because he is a beast at extracting the maximum potential (or even more) of the car, and I think that Red Bull has a higher potential than VCARB, but VCARB is a lot easier to drive

[vivid belfry]

max has been looking towards gt3's for a while

[barren rock]

im talking about this era brother, its just not fair to compare him to Lewis or Vettel or Alonso or Schumi, its not fair to compare them either, all of them were the greatest of their time, so no driver is the greatest of all time

[compact pike]

Why gt3. Why not hypercar?

[vivid belfry]

either or

just endurance in general i believe

[compact pike]

Maybe he goes to aston and driver the hyper car of aston too

Also newey 100% will work on the hyper car aswell

[silk violet]

This era yes max top 3 but vettel and Lewis clear

[lost moat]

honestly i think that comparing drivers from different generations makes no sense. there are so many factors such as the cars and other drivers which make it really hard to tell who is the best. i think the most logical thing to do is pick the best from each era, but thats easy and pretty boring

[silk violet]

Vettel just barely but Lewis was in another league

[digital lance]

I once sat on a Formula one car replica

My balls said "nah"

[lost seal]

That's what I'm thinking. Even though max has been the ultimate record-crusher, I don't think he feels the need to keep doing shit in F1 if he doesn't find it fun. He's such a versatile driver and I honestly think something like GT3 intrigues him more

[barren rock]

exactly

[compact pike]

Maybe lewis is getting older thats why we see he is not on the same level as Leclerc

[silk violet]

He said if he keeps winning every race he won’t stay in f1

[vivid belfry]

i think max doesn't retire this year, no way, if redbull dominates '26 then i see him extending his contract, otherwise i see him out of the seat by '28

[compact pike]

I think he will move to another team

[silk violet]

Which leads me to believe that redbull have made the car “bad” so that he gets a challenge and stays in f1

[lost seal]

That's not entirely what I'm saying. I think he will always gravitate towards what he finds more enjoyable. Recent years that has been F1, but if this continues it might not be in the future.

[barren rock]

again i say, it makes 0 sense to compare drivers of different times, Vettel in Red Bull era was a different breed, and if he got more time there in that car, he wouldve been a 7 time, if not more world champ, Hamilton was lucky to have a consistent car for nearly a decade

[trim shuttle]

I JUST WOKE UP AND I'M CRYING JASJJWJJSHDUSJDUWUDIJEDUDUDUUDUDUFUDE8FYEUDHSUDEUDHEUDHWIDHEJDHEUFUEHEUDHEUDHEUDHDHDHDHHSJSHDDHHDDHDHHDHDDHDHDIEUUDUDJR 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[compact pike]

Xd this is a bad opinion. They are just struggling.

[umbral talon]

poor yuki

[compact pike]

But why the Ferrari is so bad?

[lost moat]

im guessing max sees whos the best in 26 and then switches to the best team he can get in 27. im guessing merc

[vivid belfry]

yeah i think any team would move someone aside for max apart from ferrari

[compact pike]

When Max will lose p1? Tomorrow?

[barren rock]

im just praying he takes AM

[vivid belfry]

i dont see ferrari scrapping lewis or leclerc

[silk violet]

I can only hope but idrc I just want Aston Martin to know how to make a car

[lost seal]

Why wouldn't ferrari?

[lost moat]

mclaren is solid. dont think they will be doing any switches for the next 2-3 years

[compact pike]

I hope in Barcelona there will be big changes

[vivid belfry]

lewis brings a shit ton of money and charles is the golden boy of ferrari atm

[silk violet]

Lewis was completely better than anyone on the track from 2017-2020

[silk violet]

I hope so

[snow swan]

Max is winning his 5th

[silk violet]

No need to be delusional

[compact pike]

Bearman is showing something that he never done in f2 before

[silk violet]

Lando has every right to win it this year but idk about his consistency

[vivid belfry]

i think oscar before lando

oscar is more level headed then lando is

[lost moat]

thats true lol. but the thing is lewis created what mercedes is today and redbull is centered around max. i guess the difference is that lewis helped the team, and redbull is clinging onto max with their life

[barren rock]

he literally had the W11 my guy, not being fast in that is straight up bad, Bottas was more of a helper rather than a championship contender, and Ferrari was competitive in 2019

[digital lance]

Yuki is the guy on left right?

[lilac zenith]

this.

[vivid belfry]

i wouldnt argue 4 hundredths as slower

[silk violet]

Fairs but still the only people that could beat Lewis from 2017-2020 was valterri, max, seb, Charles, max and kimi

[lost moat]

oml thats so cute

[vivid belfry]

4 hundredths is a slight wind gust change

[silk violet]

The w11 was only good in corners it’s straight line speed was “meh”

[compact pike]

Not fully competetive. Some races Ferrari was nowhere. Also in Austin FIA stepped on Ferrari

[silk violet]

By 4 hundredths? That’s faster than you blink

[vivid belfry]

oscar also screwed up s1 no?

[silk violet]

You blink in 300 milliseconds and he was .04 slower than Lando?

[vivid belfry]

i disagree

[lost moat]

i do think he has more potential. i dont think lando is quite there when considering championship material. i think oscar has potential to be a wdc. not like max, seb, or lewis dominance, but like a really strong drivers like nico rosberg

[hidden burrow]

The amount of pain Hamilton is causing I need to be compensated

[silk violet]

I’m not

I think Lando is a better driver but I think Oscar has better consistency

I’m not

[hidden burrow]

Bro
Common
They are almost equal

[silk violet]

I said Lando is faster but Oscar has better consistency

[lost moat]

oscar has a lot to learn and is showing potential. i dont know how much of that is being masked by the mcl 39

[vivid belfry]

alright fine,
1 tenth behind in australia, he gained time and nearly overtook lando, team orders
1.5 tenths ahead in china, won by 10 seconds

[barren rock]

all im saying is that comparing is a stupid thing to do, and useless too just creates arguements and rivalries, look at Max and Hamilton IRL theyre good friends, but when it comes to fans, its close to WW3

other drivers are also there, like Lando in 24 for example, he was the only competition to Max, but Max won regardless, that is a fair comparision

[silk violet]

He’s still a new driver but is still very close to Lando racecraft wise

[kindred quartz]

@jade mural

[vivid belfry]

oscar isnt a new driver anymore hate to say it

its his third season now

[silk violet]

See this?

[vivid belfry]

hes got near 50 races under his belt

[silk violet]

He’s a newish driver

He’s good yes but still has stuff to show

[vivid belfry]

the first year oscar was a rookie

[lost moat]

first 2 seasons are like getting used to it and trying new things. this year is pretty much his time to perform

he saw what the car was capable of last year

[hidden burrow]

They didn’t do the same to Liam now did they

[silk violet]

He’s close to lando race craft wise and lando has been driving since 2019

[barren rock]

obv Lando will be faster, hes been in F1 since long time compared to Piastri

[vivid belfry]

i think lets wait till race 8 and compare again
oscars first season was his rookie season, car was dogshit for the first half
oscars second season was the first season both lando and oscar had a car worth winning
this season is the first where they both have a lot of experience in a good car

[lost moat]

lol redbull when the second driver doesnt get pole, win the race, and lead all laps by 10+ seconds on the first race 😱😱😱😱

[hidden burrow]

Crazy how he beat yuki in the qualifiers
I think that’s send a loud message about what car the red bull second drivers be driving

[stiff bough]

Or Hamilton and Alonso

Or Vettel and Webber

[lost moat]

but yeah redbull situation is its own thing

[barren rock]

thats Ferrari thats a totally different case, look at Leclerc and 7 time WDC

[lost moat]

but max was able to win his wdc 6 years after debut

[stiff bough]

The point of it is, less experience doesn’t inherently = slower

[lost moat]

and was a strong driver for most of them

[barren rock]

Max is a different breed man

[barren rock]

fair enough

[lost moat]

yeah idk why i brought that up. max is just different

[stiff bough]

And Leclerc beat Vettel to the point where Ferrari decided to get rid of him before he could even redeem himself ahead of 2020 lol

[hidden burrow]

Everyone knew it was the cat the car that was fucked
They just didn’t wanna admit it

[wet sequoia]

Vettel finished so far down the ladder though

[vivid belfry]

lawson did show it was the car yeah, but red bull are desperate to show thats not the case
max is just massively overdriving that car, and sure you can't 'overdrive' a car but hes had that much experience in the car

[stiff bough]

yeah but they let go of him for 2021 before the 2020 season started

[barren rock]

ikr i dont even know what Helmut expected from poor Lawson, like he wont start battling out at front from the first race

yeah finally

[hidden burrow]

I don’t think red bull will change anything as long as max keeps bring them the results they need

[vivid belfry]

helmut needs to be sacked honestly or not in charge of the 2 teams, should be in charge of who he thinks gets the step up not the final call

[hidden burrow]

So you just feel sad for the second drivers

[wet sequoia]

Ferrari didn’t get the results they wanted, although Ferrari won’t admit they fucked Vettel during the one year he could have been a 5 time WDC

[stiff bough]

Problem is that he can’t really be sacked

[vivid belfry]

i disagree, they lost the constructors last year, which is the championship teams want to win

[wet sequoia]

Helmut has no position in RBR

[stiff bough]

because he doesn’t work for Red Bull Racing

[wet sequoia]

He’s an “advisor” and the head of the academy program

[vivid belfry]

ah

[stiff bough]

He works for Red Bull GmbH

[vivid belfry]

cheers for clarification guys lowk didnt actually know helmut works

how he works*

[stiff bough]

Sure and that’s apart of his contract

[wet sequoia]

He just applies pressure to Horner’s bosses and runs his mouth to the media until he gets what he wants

[stiff bough]

but he can’t really be sacked

[hidden burrow]

Yhh but their driver got the wc
I don’t think they will complain much ..and the lost the constructors championship by margins

[stiff bough]

The Austrian branch of Red Bull are his backing

[vivid belfry]

teams want money though, and they lost the constructors due to checo not performing

[wet sequoia]

He definitely can’t be sacked if he has no position within Red Bull Racing

[glass aspen]

Lawson in VCARB didnt do much better

[vivid belfry]

that connstructors should of easily been theirs

[wet sequoia]

Helmut has strange connections to the top of Red Bull

[vivid belfry]

checo not performing, lawson not performing, and tsunoda not performing (yet) indicates its the car

[stiff bough]

why would they sack the guy they put their entire weight behind during the power struggle last year?

[wet sequoia]

He’s been in that system long enough and had more then enough time to network

His value will disappear when Max leaves and if Lindblad doesn’t not perform in F1

[stiff bough]

and besides which, if the first dozen racist remarks he made 20 years ago made no difference to Red Bull, then anything he does now sure as shit ain’t

[wet sequoia]

Because so many other teams have working academy systems

[stiff bough]

he was the reason Red Bull got Vettel, Ricciardo, and Verstappen after all

[wet sequoia]

I hate what he brings to the paddock personally but you have to look at the facts

[stiff bough]

which is past but still important for his value to the team in talent scouting

Yeah it always has been, just usually with Toro Rosso until Ricciardo decided to leave

[wet sequoia]

He has brought drivers and helped build a premier academy system, ever since Verstappen started dominating he has used that as the example his academy drivers should become

He’s staking a lot on Lindblad and Max has admitted multiple times his time in F1 is limited until he’s had enough, not when he drops

When Max goes and if Lindblad fails then Helmut will have little value to the racing program

No one, even their other F2 drivers aren’t in the discussion

[golden narwhal]

gasly was very good

but not enough time in rbr

[wet sequoia]

Issues between their fathers more forced Sainz out of the teams then being poached

[vivid belfry]

tsunoda has had a total of 3 practice session and a qualifying session in the main team we should give him more time

[golden narwhal]

^

cant say he's mid

he was on par with gasly when they were racing

just a bit shy

[surreal lantern]

It doesn’t reflect well on RBR’s talent development pipeline that several of their former drivers (Sainz and Gasly specifically) could probably be a good teammate to Max and get a lot out of the RB21. But they only got to that level after getting dumped by Red Bull and getting time and a healthy development environment in other teams

[vivid belfry]

tsunodas been outscoring most teammates no?

[golden narwhal]

yes

[deft wedge]

Bruh. Yuki didn't qualify p20 back to back. He will definitely do better in the race. Lawson was bad from preseason testing onwards

[surreal lantern]

Every one since Pierre left AT

[vivid belfry]

so i think he should have time in the rb

[golden narwhal]

simply put it

lawson first sat in that car he said its fucked

tsunoda first sat in it he said its ok

[deft wedge]

Also shout-out to Hadjar for doing amazing so far after his first blip on Australia.

[golden narwhal]

hadjar might be best rookie

[wet sequoia]

Yeah Hadjar has been the surprise of the season so far

Well Kimi is but he has a Mercedes

[golden narwhal]

kimi doing mid in good car when hadjar doing tricks in shoebox

[deft wedge]

Bearman surprised me as well. I think all rookies , with the exception of Lawson and Doohan have done quite well at different points this season.

[wet sequoia]

A Mercedes which has somehow turned themselves around without Hamilton’s input knee capping themselves

[wet sequoia]

Australia?

[golden narwhal]

what about it

he was fine

thats it really

[wet sequoia]

16th to what, 4th?

[deft wedge]

Lol what.

[chilly parcel]

Tsunoda still did better in the RB than Lawson did with the RB

But man, 15th is awful

[deft wedge]

Lawson did not out qualify Yuki last year

[wet sequoia]

Lawson also spent most of the year on the bench

2023 Lawson beat Tsunoda in 4 races (Granted 2 had DNF’s)

[chilly parcel]

Truth is Yuki did enough to at least show some potential whereas Lawson was just completely lost.

[wet sequoia]

Qualifying I’m sure Lawson beat him twice

[golden narwhal]

2nd-3rd best car, people being stupid and crashing, SC contributes

[vivid belfry]

yuki has outqualified lawson in both races so far?

[chilly parcel]

Yuki was close to Max in FP1 and he could at least explain what he did wrong in Q2. Lawson just had no clue

[deft wedge]

Lawson was put into the Redbull seat too early . Anybody who can't see that is huffing some serious puff

[wet sequoia]

Not completely crashing out in the wet like all the other drivers, went off into the grass, recovered and still got to 4th

[vivid belfry]

beat lawson in australia, only lost to lawson because his front wing broke in china

[golden narwhal]

well yeah i would expect that

givem the hype

but afterwards

meh

[chilly parcel]

I really don't get the need for revisionist history. Even Lawson and RB would admit Yuki was the better driver last year. They just thought Lawson had more upside and was good enough.

[golden narwhal]

so so performance

[chilly parcel]

Lawson may still have more upside but he wasn't good enough.

[golden narwhal]

still

long season

a lot can change

[wet sequoia]

Have to see what upgrades happens and improve the cars

A lot in F1 is focused on what you drive

[vivid belfry]

every session lawson has been in, apart from china race, where he was 12th, he has been 14th or below (free practice, sprint quali, sprint, quali, race)
every session yuki has been in,apart from china race (broken front wing), and fp2 + quali, yuki has been 12th or above, his lowest position being 16th

this season ^

lawson on multiple occasions being 20th ^

[golden narwhal]

lawson isnt tsunoda

[chilly parcel]

Clearly Lawson isn't, at least of now, as good as Tsunoda?

[golden narwhal]

i think if you dont like how the car drives you can only do so much

[chilly parcel]

I think that's obvious.

[golden narwhal]

• the talent factor

i do want to talk about how mclaren built a car that absolutely fits what lando norris wants

which is an RB19

yet he hasnt been 100% with it all the time

[vague sandal]

Tsundoa was getting p7 qual in the VCARB

[vivid belfry]

holy shit since fernando hasnt finished a race hes not on the 2025 standings

[vague sandal]

The redbull is just a bad car if ur anyone but max

[golden narwhal]

i disagree

[vague sandal]

Even max is not doing good in it really.

[golden narwhal]

at least for today

[lone venture]

yuki bri

[golden narwhal]

today the car was not a handful

it wasnt good enough

[vague sandal]

Max and yuki were complaining the whole day.

[golden narwhal]

they complained about the flexing

[vague sandal]

Your forgetting that max is the GOAT.

[golden narwhal]

you look at the onboard

does it look like a handful

[chilly parcel]

Yuki explicitly said his team had trouble warming up and missing the window just by a bit saw a huge performance dropoff

[vague sandal]

He could turn HASS into a podium contender.

[next heron]

wtf? verstappen pole?

[chilly parcel]

Max and his team were just on top of it and probably actually made the car harder to drive to get even more performance out of it.

[next heron]

we are SO back

[chilly parcel]

Even Max doesn't think it's sustainable.

[golden narwhal]

i think thats because he isnt familiar with the car's procedure

[next heron]

honestly even max might be thinking the oversteeriness is overkill

[chilly parcel]

In interview he actually said he was just sending it and hoping. Even hinted that lap was only possible for a single lap.

[golden narwhal]

he did

degner 1 at 270kmh

[chilly parcel]

Which kind of comes down to RB's engineering team and management team

Engineering should have been on top of it and management should have let him start the season to begin with.

[golden narwhal]

at the end of the end max is just him

you dont get another one

never ever

[chilly parcel]

And more to the point, he knew and understood the problem afterwards. He wasn't completely lost like Liam

[golden narwhal]

but what i got was that

[vague sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/let-tsunoda-cook-let-yuki-cook-let-him-cook-yuki-tsunoda-cooking-gif-14348711202773700942

[golden narwhal]

the lap was beautiful and clean

[chilly parcel]

Max drove like it was in a simulator with zero fear

[golden narwhal]

didnt look like a huge effort, just a whole lot of guts

[vague sandal]

Yuki would of gotten top 10 if it wasn't for the fire

[golden narwhal]

yeah

[radiant scarab]

Is that what we're calling Liam now? The fire? I like it lol

[dry remnant]

any reason Hamilton qualled pretty bad

[golden narwhal]

tailwind

[neat latch]

Yo chat good morning

[chilly parcel]

No there was fire at the qualifying and that made it weird for Tsunoda's team to keep the car in the window

And they just screwed up

[vague sandal]

Liam is bad driver out qualed by his rookie team mate.

[radiant scarab]

It's Hamilton in a Ferrari, that's like walking under a ladder on Friday the 13th hahaha

[neat latch]

They also put yuki on used tyres

[golden narwhal]

i think if max can keep norris behind for 3 laps

[radiant scarab]

Did better than yuki is a lesser car hahaha, literally knocked him out of the top 10 at one point (then many others knocked him out)

[golden narwhal]

he's winning

the mclaren grains up really quickly

[vague sandal]

mate lawson was qualing p20

[golden narwhal]

once

one time

[radiant scarab]

Are you still talking about suzuka or?

[vague sandal]

No china and aus qualing p20

[radiant scarab]

Yeah, the most recent time lol

[radiant scarab]

Okay well it's suzuka week

[golden narwhal]

you dont look at recent when you judge overall performance

[vague sandal]

I can tell ur 30 just by the way you talk clock in buddy

[golden narwhal]

yuki did better in the same car

[neat latch]

Dude im not saying it's impossible but, mclaren are way faster in every condition, I'm not saying max can't keep them behind I'm saying is we all saw how fast they were in Australia in the wet

[radiant scarab]

You also don't look at two races

[golden narwhal]

its been 3

[radiant scarab]

Damn you're angry, why?

[golden narwhal]

and he has been p20 both times

yuki today p15

[vague sandal]

clock in bro work ur 9-5

[golden narwhal]

first time driving

[neat latch]

Imo this isn't yuki's fault at all

[golden narwhal]

well first week driving

[radiant scarab]

Liam p14

[neat latch]

They messed up his session

[vague sandal]

millennial ahh emoji pmo

[golden narwhal]

ok and what, hadjar p7?

[neat latch]

And put him on used softs

[golden narwhal]

yuki was better than hadjar

so like

whats your point

[radiant scarab]

So put him in with max, see what happens hahahha

[chilly parcel]

Right. Really all I got out of the race is this is expected level of struggle. He didn't deliver but he knows what to work on and isn't completely lost. RB basically said Liam was completely lost.

[vague sandal]

has anyone told you that emoji isn't funny and you is a big sign ur 30

millennial humour

https://tenor.com/view/like-a-true-millennial-mrwhosetheboss-im-a-millennial-a-typical-millennial-thats-what-a-millennial-would-do-gif-21725718

[radiant scarab]

Has anyone told you you're too emotional for the internet?

[golden narwhal]

i think he's not intelligent enough for me

[neat latch]

Give him time, I'm sure the next qualifying is going to be better

Because Bahrain doesn't have grass fires

[vague sandal]

no, has anyone told you that ur 30 talking about Liam lawson better than yuki. Time to clock in pal

[tall lily]

red bull is on sauber level of car

[golden narwhal]

and im just saying that the mclaren grains up really quickly

and max can win

ik they are faster

[tall lily]

with a goat level driver and a decent driver

[grave parcel]

stare~1

[golden narwhal]

today they should be 3 tenths faster

with a 1-2

but no

[radiant scarab]

I don't understand how 30 year olds and millennials have hurt you but you need to learn to cope better with things not going the way you want them to

[vague sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/gen-x-windsong-rise-gif-6276588596971348649

[chilly parcel]

He's shown enough pace that I think he could climb from 14 to like 8 or 9

Over the weekend

[neat latch]

I mean we are all acting like the McLaren is a rocketship but it's not, it is the fastest car but this only proves things are like really really close

[golden narwhal]

it is

are you sarcastic

[neat latch]

It also proves that max verstappen is an alien

[chilly parcel]

Yeah. And Max is super human for finding that half a second.

[golden narwhal]

oscar piastri today made up 3 tenths in 2 sectors

[eternal jackal]

💀

[golden narwhal]

3 tenths

he was .380 down iirc

in s1

and he is 3rd with 0.042

do that math

[neat latch]

I mean we don't know for sure, you might be right, but max somehow still found time for pole

[golden narwhal]

he found time in 1 braking zone

you watch the comparison video yourself

[neat latch]

Man i wish yuki was up there

[golden narwhal]

its not as close as they make it out to be

[neat latch]

He had the pace

[chilly parcel]

Max didn't have a single purple sector

He just put together a perfect lap

[golden narwhal]

maximized everything he could

[chilly parcel]

But Lando and Piastri shared the purples indicating they left time on the table

[neat latch]

True

[gaunt swift]

Who yall got winning

[golden narwhal]

i want max

[chilly parcel]

Max was 3rd in secotr 1, 4th in sector 2, and 2nd in sector 3

[neat latch]

I don't like making race predictions lol

[chilly parcel]

I want Max to win but I don't think it's possible.

[golden narwhal]

but realistically we need to wait until lap 2

[neat latch]

I want to be surprised

[gaunt swift]

I want lando

Or hamilton

[golden narwhal]

my parlay on max winning for $100

so he better win

[smoky agate]

you should try it’s great, you spend an hour defending and detailed analysis why you think your driver will make it to the podium only for them to DNF lol

[chilly parcel]

I think Lando will win it. Hamilton is driving a Ferrari

[foggy jackal]

i want a reverse brazil here

[golden narwhal]

what

p1 to p18???

[gaunt swift]

I put $500 on Lando

[neat latch]

Let's not act like max is going to win on lap 2 just because he's ahead, we've seen a bunch of times of when max tries to open a gap, the McLaren just closes the gap a few laps later and is on the attack, we saw it in Australia

[golden narwhal]

max never led aus

when did he try to open a gap

[neat latch]

But he was ahead of oscar

[golden narwhal]

and its also in the wet

[neat latch]

That was also in the wet

[golden narwhal]

which doesnt contribute to graining

which in china they had a lot

and soon

[neat latch]

They only had graining in the sprint of china, which was misleading because the car wasn't completely setup like how they wanted it to be

[golden narwhal]

lando had graining in the main race

following piastri

[neat latch]

In the sprint Norris struggled to pass stroll, in the race he didn't struggle at all passing Russell

[golden narwhal]

which he had to back out to conserve a 1-stop

[neat latch]

He also had brake problems

[golden narwhal]

that doesnt add to anything

he still had graining

does he not

[neat latch]

Against his teammate, but like i said, not against Russell

Very different compared to the srpint

[golden narwhal]

he cleared russell way faster + this is a whole different track

[neat latch]

It's not impossible to overtake

[golden narwhal]

suzuka doesnt have a big straight for him to close up and attack into t1

this track will make your tires cry

like cry

[tender cypress]

Sainz has 3 place grid drop

[golden narwhal]

its insanely harsh

[neat latch]

It's going to rain

[radiant scarab]

Yeah he's the new p15

[tender cypress]

Hmm u say so

[golden narwhal]

if its rain then i can bet lando will mess up

[tender cypress]

Lawson out qualified tsunoda bruh

[golden narwhal]

it all comes around

[tepid leaf]

If the forecast is as predicted, I doubt the McLarens would be in catching distance if Verstappen has a nice start.

[radiant scarab]

Australia had rain and Lando was nearly flawless

[tender cypress]

Max is always there

[neat latch]

Like he did in Australia totally

[tender cypress]

Max is there leading

[bright wedge]

Lando is a good wet weather driver

[golden narwhal]

he still mesed up

did he not

[neat latch]

He still won

[tender cypress]

Tru but not as much as max..