monaco-gp

[placid swan]

yeah lmk grab the quote

let me grab the quote

[snow swan]

max to win abu dhabi confirmed, chatgpt leaked the script

[placid swan]

VERSTAPPEN DETONATES RUSSELL

Max Verstappen is still angry about George Russell's actions at the stewards meeting yesterday:

“The way it was handled by the other driver involved in the stewards meeting (Russell) made absolutely no sense. I have a lot of respect for a lot of drivers but after last night I have completely lost respect for him.”

“I thought it was absurd how Russell tried to frame me for a penalty in that scenario. I was quite angry with him about that.”

“In front of the cameras, he’s very reasonable, but off camera, he’s acompletelydifferent person. I can’t stand that, so he better go f *****. ck himself. I don’t want anything to do with it.”

@fleet aspen @low star

[spiral lagoon]

Not very sportsman like

[placid swan]

well, hes the only driver on the grid who speaks his mind and the truth

[low star]

I think hes a great driver and he deserves his achevements

[spiral lagoon]

That’s a really corny thing to say ngl

[sly badger]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DDDJsLCPaMV/?igsh=YmY3cWZyem8zZWRm

[regal needle]

Pretty Sure Jack will drive for Alpine early

[placid swan]

I want him to win the WDC next year so he can be tied with Schumacher for the most consequtive titles

[low star]

i forgot about jack

[spiral lagoon]

Lewis is the same way Tbf, especially this weekend he’s just sick of Mercedes

[low star]

Hes kinda like vettel

[snow swan]

meanwhile redbull being shit in the corner 🤓

nah honestly i kinda want to see that happen

[placid swan]

only if checo sticks around

[snow swan]

yet i want lando to win

yet i want charles to win

yet i want lewis to win

[spiral lagoon]

I wanna see Lewis get 8th

[placid swan]

Lanco IS NOT championship material

[snow swan]

lol

[lost sphinx]

He is

[spiral lagoon]

Not yet, he will be

[lost sphinx]

Didn't you see this race

he was the only one to be at verstappens pace

[snow swan]

i think he will learn a lot from this season

[hushed olive]

P8 In abu dhabi ?

[spiral lagoon]

What

[snow swan]

its his first real season competing for wins etc. and he did really well imo

[lucid gale]

max's gamer rage 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[hushed olive]

jk

[placid swan]

Lando has had the fastest car since Miami, Max has had the third fastest car since Miami, and Max has outscored him

GOAT things

[spiral lagoon]

He definitely did better then I was expecting

[low star]

Hes a good driver bht hes not championship material yet

[storm hemlock]

whos 2nd?

[hushed olive]

ferrari

[low star]

he can grow but he doesnt have the right mindset to be champion

[hushed olive]

merc at some tracks

[storm hemlock]

mmh

[spiral lagoon]

That’s wrong, sometimes McLaren have been second fastest and sometimes rbr has been second fastest

[snow swan]

sometimes third, sometimes second tbf

[placid swan]

On average RBR is the 3rd fastest, McLaren is the fastest

[lost sphinx]

That's insane cap and I hate everybody who says this acting like if piastri was where norris always or better

[spiral lagoon]

Yeah it’s still impressive I’m just correcting you

[snow swan]

merc and mclaren were the fastest for sure between silverstone to spa

[lucid gale]

bro wth is this

[drifting island]

Subjectively the fastest though. It isn’t the fastest at every track. It’s also the first year that mclaren has had a decent car that can fight for wins, he just needs more time and maybe

[lost sphinx]

like norris outscored piastri in every race unless the azerbaijan I think because of the qualy problem

[storm hemlock]

BOT HAM 1-2

[snow swan]

i asked chatgpt to tell me which constructor had the fastest car each race this season
well its chatgpt so its kinda stupid

[placid swan]

anywayyy back to Checo slander

[hushed olive]

then merc replaced with ferrari from zandvoort onwards (excluding vegas)

[low star]

Its only pastrys 2nd season and he did well

[snow swan]

or my prompting is stoopid

[spiral lagoon]

Penalty for Lando was way too harsh

[lucid gale]

yes

[lost sphinx]

And it's first season for both norris and piastri that they fight for wins

[low star]

Lando could have won earlier

[spiral lagoon]

No

[placid swan]

🚨 | The FIA has confirmed they are putting together an explainer on some of the decisions made during the Qatar GP.

[low star]

Hes still talented im not saying he isnt

[lost sphinx]

only 2 races

in 20

that ain't enough practice

[snow swan]

yea tho idk if in zandvoort redbull was faster or ferrari

[hushed olive]

it is hard to tell cuz checo is always underperforming

[low star]

idk i like mclaren but i dont think hes championship material yet

[lost sphinx]

He is

lando leclerc russell and Verstappen are the 4 candidates for next year wdc

[snow swan]

not even that, if anything we can compare charles to max

[snow swan]

lewis?

[spiral lagoon]

Give Lando a bit more time and he can fight for a championship, he was good this weekend and would’ve had a good result if not for that bullshit penalty

[low star]

He doesnt have a championship mindset het

[hushed olive]

rb in monza and baku was 4th fastest

[lost sphinx]

Haven't u seen lewis this season

He has been like 18-4 into russell

[snow swan]

i watched silverstone and vegas

[spiral lagoon]

Yeah the car contradicts his style, this regulation just isn’t for his style

[hushed olive]

the car has been inconsistent and that has been damaging his confidence in that w15

[snow swan]

kinda skill issue

but even then Moises is right imo

Lewis still has that dawg in him

[lost sphinx]

In vegas he got outperformed and in silverstone outqualified

[spiral lagoon]

Nah, that’s a team issue for not giving their champion a good car

[void escarp]

zhou goat

[spiral lagoon]

If Lewis was in the Ferrari or McLaren this season he would’ve won wdc

[snow swan]

i mean these regs dont suit him right? then its skill issue cus as f1 driver you need to adapt

not ferrari

but mclaren yes

[hushed olive]

with a more consistent car lewis could do way better

[lost sphinx]

Y'all talking like if hamilton going to Ferrari fix his problems w the car

[hushed olive]

like a ferrari

[spiral lagoon]

He is adaptable but why change his style when it’s only bad in quali and decent in the race

[lost sphinx]

Leclerc has like 5 year experience w the car

[spiral lagoon]

It might, Ferrari is better

[lost sphinx]

And it's supposed to be better than russell

hes got no chance at all

[snow swan]

it might? who knows

AYO

WE SAW THAT

[hushed olive]

hamilton in ferrari could either be like schumacher or be like seb or alonso

[stiff bough]

because in order to get the best result possible you need to also qualify well? Plenty of drivers on the grid who have done the changes they needed to do to get on with what they are given.

[snow swan]

seb was goated in ferrari

[spiral lagoon]

I’m not reading all that bro

[snow swan]

wait no

fernando

[stiff bough]

lol okay

[snow swan]

sorry

[hushed olive]

not at his last years

[snow swan]

man i wish he won in ferrari

[lost sphinx]

imo currently leclerc>hamilton

[stiff bough]

shouldn't expect any less from this chat apparently

[wicked owl]

Lewis got hit with the old elementary “if you cant walk down the hall do it again”

[low star]

leclerc is fast hes definelty championship material

[lost sphinx]

more chances than hamilton

[gleaming dagger]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901072369706225684/1312856527563919360/remix-853f2454-572c-4cba-a231-297e103811cf.png?ex=674e046b&is=674cb2eb&hm=8905a7618116f18bebc16b64e35a9973861b13cdfbc0bd1d29b5206114b72035&

[snow swan]

ofc im biased but imo leclerc this season is on Max's level

except brazil

[lilac rose]

Sainz and Hamilton didn't lift

[lost sphinx]

yes leclerc has been perfect

[lilac rose]

Was the double yellow active then?

[lost sphinx]

Top3 this season must be Verstappen leclerc and norris

[hushed olive]

and those few races where he finished out of the points

from like canada to silverstone

[lost sphinx]

Most weren't his fault

[low star]

I think many drivers are on maxs level but dont get chances since soittle teams can compete

[lost sphinx]

Which drivers

max is insane no driver would have done his performance on brazil which is wet and less car dependant

[gleaming dagger]

Alonso having more points than every midfield team isn't talked about.

[low star]

like even hulkenburg is pretty good

[lost sphinx]

Alonso is also wdc material

[low star]

leclerc

[lost sphinx]

Not close to max

[low star]

alonso

[lost sphinx]

Close but not as good as max

maybe alonso is as good as max, the only one

[low star]

well haas is slow af

[lilac rose]

Don't think he's close at all

[storm hemlock]

sergio ramos

[lost sphinx]

but as that car is trash

it's hard to say

[gleaming dagger]

!truth2

[jade mural]

Bottas > Perez

[lost sphinx]

but Verstappen is just insane on race

[low star]

its hard to tell which drivers are good because of how slow some teams are

[lost sphinx]

0 mistakes

[lost sphinx]

but Verstappen is just too good

[low star]

Checo was good in another car but in red bull hes ass

[snow swan]

yea silverstone spain canada austira

[lost sphinx]

imagine how good Verstappen is then

[mortal galleon]

restart

[low star]

yeah

[lost sphinx]

wdym restart

[snow swan]

this stint costed us max vs charles wdc fight potentially

[gleaming dagger]

!truth3

[jade mural]

Leclerc > Sainz

[mortal galleon]

if you did watch the restart he slipped like lando

[snow swan]

that too tho leclerc's consistency this season considering the car he had

[lost sphinx]

and yet he didn't lose position because of perfect defense

[low star]

yeah its hard to tell if they are good

[mortal galleon]

trueee

[hushed olive]

after miami checo was only good at baku and qatar both races he dnfed....

[mortal galleon]

perez has to be gone

[low star]

!truth

[jade mural]

Prost > Senna

[lost sphinx]

Yeah that's rlly sad for him

[low star]

!truth

[jade mural]

Prost > Senna

[gleaming dagger]

Checo actually cost us 15 WCC points in Baku. Why did I forget that?

[lost sphinx]

He was having a good race in qatar

[snow swan]

worst placement excluding canada (ferrari disasterclass) silverstone (ferrari disasterclass) and austria (what happend there anyone remembers?) is 5th

[low star]

!truth5

[gleaming dagger]

!truth4

[low star]

bruh

[jade mural]

Verstappen > Hamilton is inevitable

[hushed olive]

azerbaijan crash with sainz qatar hydraulics gone

[low star]

are there only 4 truths

[lost sphinx]

And Verstappen gave you 20 in austria

[snow swan]

what happend to charles in austria tho anyone remembers?

[lost sphinx]

We should not be talking about those inchidents

they just exist and happen

[dusk sorrel]

Zhou the goat 🐐

[low star]

https://tenor.com/view/racecastbr-racecast-formula1-f1-pilotos-de-f1-gif-27144374

[lost sphinx]

I think collision w pastry

but not sure

[snow swan]

yea there was something

[low star]

does anyone have stroll role

unironacalyy

does anyone like stroll unironically

(other than canadians)

[gleaming dagger]

@lunar schooner Come here buddy.

[gentle verge]

that one guy from vegas who has a "soft spot" for him maybe

[low star]

💀

[snow swan]

i dont have anything against him tbf

i would say i have a neutral opinion

[low star]

hes a nice dude but slow af

idk

[snow swan]

clara cooked here ngl

[low heron]

True

[versed pivot]

wtf was up with fia penalites during this race?

[versed pivot]

🤣

[acoustic bramble]

i love this

[deft venture]

i will be yoinking this for my camera roll

[acoustic bramble]

me too

[lucid gale]

i come back to wideco or widez

[versed pivot]

actually ruined this race with garbage referees

[lucid gale]

zhoints is great we need more of these

[pearl gate]

What happened to Norris I don’t watch the race I was busy

[lucid gale]

erm actually u need to remove the 2nd 'f' in 'fifa' so it becomes fia world cup qatar 2022

[lucid gale]

10s penalty i believe

[pearl gate]

4 what

[acoustic bramble]

10 second stop and go penalty for not lifting during yellow flag

[versed pivot]

couple second yellow flag on main straight that he didnt lift for, got a 10sec stop and go penalty

[acoustic bramble]

what is lifting

[versed pivot]

ruined his whole race

[pearl gate]

Alr

[lucid gale]

removing foot from gas

[neat fern]

stop and go a bit harsh

[acoustic bramble]

ty

[lucid gale]

whats stop and go

[acoustic bramble]

real

[deft venture]

fr and i dont even like him that mich

[neat fern]

you have to stop in the pit for 10 sec so he lost 30+ sec

[stiff bough]

you stop in the pits and hold for the duration of your penalty then go

you cant get tyres either iirc

[lucid gale]

wth

no new tires?

[stiff bough]

It was an extreme penalty for the offense.

[versed pivot]

earlier this year the punishment for not lifting was 10s, now we're doing stop n go

[stiff bough]

That's something you give for his false start in Brazil

Not for a yellow with no one out on track

[lucid gale]

dam

[versed pivot]

The penalty for max to drive like an angry child was 10s

It's so stupid 😅

[lucid gale]

i remember dem outstanding penalties

[neat fern]

hahahaha y

h

how wasnt that a stop n go in that case

[lucid gale]

what the fia wants for christmas:

[versed pivot]

they need to get some fucking consistency going honestly, what are they doing

[neat fern]

its the lovely fia president

[versed pivot]

[acoustic bramble]

we love mbs!

[jagged cloak]

i mean the last time this happened they also did a stop and go

[lucid gale]

no?

[jagged cloak]

btw this is 2017 because it should be expected for an f1 driver to not be reckless in current day f1

[fleet aspen]

During solid yellow drivers should slow down and be prepared to stop.

Not lifting means that they kept their foot down on the throttle which means they weren’t slowing down or being prepared to stop

[lucid gale]

i thought it was this

[jagged cloak]

double yellow flag too

[neat fern]

then how didnt max get stop n go for mexico

[jagged cloak]

because thats not yellow flag procedures

[south heron]

didn't watch the GP but Zhou got points so I don't need to 😎

[neat fern]

you said reckless

[jagged cloak]

thats just being a dirty driver there

[jagged cloak]

recklessness in that hes breaking the rules while not even being aware

[neat fern]

and twice

[fleet aspen]

All the goats are dirty drivers

[jagged cloak]

when as a driver hes supposed to be aware

[south heron]

also Acrytala I bet you're pretty damn happy today

[neat fern]

he was full aware

[jagged cloak]

i mean

lando

lando was not aware

when he shouldve been

[neat fern]

and max were but still did it not only 1 time but 2

after each other

[jagged cloak]

max was racing and doing careless moves

and btw

those are two separate incidents

both 10 seconds

which are standard penalties

[fleet aspen]

*inchidents

[jagged cloak]

flat out double yellow will always be super strict

[neat fern]

and lando got 30+ sec penalty

[jagged cloak]

and thats in line with their precedent

max is as a result as penalties for causing a driver to go off track being standard length

[neat fern]

were there any marshals? so i dont see the danger comapred to max in mexico

[jagged cloak]

lando is a result of penalties for not following yellow flag procedures

[fleet aspen]

MBS fired them all

[jagged cloak]

there was a big piece of debris that could (and did) ruin many races

[neat fern]

sure did

[jagged cloak]

what if lando was trying to overtake max in that zone?

[cyan saffron]

Yeah, it was Alex's mirror.

[neat fern]

yh but would only fuck his own race

[jagged cloak]

thats not an argument

[neat fern]

did he?

[jagged cloak]

the fact that something could happen means that its a severe danger

which is why double yellow flags and flat out is always slam dunk

[neat fern]

there is still different circumstances

[jagged cloak]

im sorry but what would big debris on the only overtaking place on the track result in

[neat fern]

me personally if there would've been marshalls out o the track then theres different

[jagged cloak]

bottas was literally trying to get out of the way for blue flags and he hit the debris

do you not see the problem

[neat fern]

should have been full sc

[jagged cloak]

not what we're arguing

[neat fern]

every reporter said it was a bit harsh

so theyre all wrong then?

[jagged cloak]

they can be

[stiff bough]

a penalty was deserved

[jagged cloak]

again

[stiff bough]

not the severity of it though imo

[jagged cloak]

this penalty has happened before

exact same punishment

10 second stop go

3 penalty points

[neat fern]

exactly

[jagged cloak]

for going flat out in double yellow

[snow swan]

i didn’t get to watch Qatar GP someone give me a recap especially talk about how Lando got P10 please🙏

[jagged cloak]

if it was less, that means fia was again being inconsistent

[jagged cloak]

stop and go penalty for going flat out in a double waved yellow zone

[stiff bough]

well they were already being inconsistent

[jagged cloak]

then became really fucking fast at the end

[jagged cloak]

well lets not add fuel to the fire shall we!

[stiff bough]

they give lando a penalty for a safety issue and don't clear the safety issue itself

[jagged cloak]

we're not arguing on the sc stuff

[stiff bough]

and then it ends up getting hit and now you have glass all over the track that increases the risk of puncture which may or may not have been part of the cause for sainz and hamilton

[jagged cloak]

we're arguing about lando's penalty itself

[stiff bough]

I'm just saying, they're pretending to care about safety

[jagged cloak]

the whole sc shouldve been thrown earlier stuff is already clear cut

like yes im sorry lando was part of a whole disaster caused by the fia but you still have to follow instructions

[stiff bough]

Indeed.

[jagged cloak]

not the first time hes failed to follow instructions anyway

[stiff bough]

Brazil was more fitting of a 10s stop go

But that is the classic case of "everyone broke the rules so no one gets punished"

0 spine

[neat fern]

look at max loooolllllllllll

[hushed olive]

he has only scored 1 point since mexico

[sly badger]

The good news,Bottas isn't 23rd anymore

[hushed olive]

FINALLY

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

[crude star]

TSUNODA💀

today is not good

[acoustic bramble]

what happene to yuki

hasprkee

happened

[crude star]

not get point in QATAR😕😕😕😕

[hushed olive]

now that zhou scored 4 points which is the new worst racer

bottas ?

[cyan saffron]

Zhou for the Red Bull seat

[oblique stratus]

zhou isnt the worse tbh

hes really consistent

the car is just shit

[hushed olive]

i mean before this race he was kinda being the worst driver

finishing last nearly every race

way behind his teammate

[oblique stratus]

yeah

[quartz crag]

ZHOU GOT POINTS?!

(the race at my place was at 2 am and I had school😓)

[cyan saffron]

yes

He did.

4 points even

[fleet pewter]

ZHOINTS ZHOINTS ZHOINTS

[quartz crag]

SAUBER’S FIRST POINTS🔥🗣️🗣️

[cyan saffron]

Bottas almost got a point as well.

[quartz crag]

oh

[cyan saffron]

finished 11th though

So he's now ahead of Logan in the championship.

[quartz crag]

Atleast sauber got their first points🤷‍♀️

[cyan saffron]

yeah

[quartz crag]

Zhou for the red bull seat (better than checo)

[cyan saffron]

for real

He scored the same amount of points in a Kick Sauber in a single race than Checo in the last 5 races combined in a Red Bull.

[dark narwhal]

22nd let's go 🗣️

Lawson behind zhou tho

[candid salmon]

🤣

[dark narwhal]

They're keeping him untill abu so that he actually tries

[hushed olive]

Checo to stock car brazil

[snow swan]

why dod checo retire today tho?

[dark narwhal]

He spun his car

[candid salmon]

because he spun and beached it

[dark narwhal]

And lost drive

[dark narwhal]

He lost drive

Engine was spinning but no movement

[knotty mist]

George you lad... you got under everyones skin this is fantastic

Please please please let Max and George fight for the win next week and the mercedes is actually good it would be so fucking funny

Collisions everywhere lol

[dark narwhal]

His own skin tok

Too

[knotty mist]

Max vs George for a title is what I want to see

Max will explode in rage lol

[dark narwhal]

I don't think he cares after the 4th title

[knotty mist]

how the hell btw george got that shitpiece to 4th is anyones guess

[dark narwhal]

You realise the merc was actually better than the mclarens

[knotty mist]

No it wasnt

[dark narwhal]

The hards were just shit on the car

[dark narwhal]

Did u watch quali and the sprint?

[knotty mist]

the race was different

[dark narwhal]

Because of the hards...

He came out in a shit spot behind alonso

[knotty mist]

Deg was really high on both mercs, very good by comparison on the mclaren and red bull

[dark narwhal]

And couldn't pass him

The deg might have been good

But the grip was shit

[knotty mist]

btw toto lol

[dark narwhal]

George literally said "why did we put hards on, they're shit"

[knotty mist]

also said that the second pitstop he was meant to go onto hards but the team picked up the wrong tyres and he didnt realise it was hards

hahahahaha

meant to go onto mediums sorry

[dark narwhal]

Yes

[knotty mist]

[dark narwhal]

Cause there wasn't a lot of laps left

Also

The lando pen

Why are people complaining sbt stop go

If he doesn't server it in the pits

He gets a grid pen

[knotty mist]

Crazy decision comparatively to what's gone before

[dark narwhal]

Next race

[dark narwhal]

I mean he deserved the pen

[rugged pewter]

@crude star hi

[snow swan]

how many places?

[knotty mist]

yeah it was a crazy decision. I thought at most 5 seconds... not a 10 sec stop and go.

[dark narwhal]

Depends kn the pen

Idk

[snow swan]

prob 10 i guess

[dark narwhal]

I just explained why it was a stop go

[snow swan]

or even more

[dark narwhal]

He has to serve it in the pits

So it's a stop go either way

[knotty mist]

no i appreciate the reasoning, i still feel its bull. It was a 5 secs to me or nothing. He didnt

gain enough and max didnt slow that much either

[dark narwhal]

The thing is

Max actually slowed

Lando broke the rules

[knotty mist]

slightly...

[dark narwhal]

Under double yellows

[knotty mist]

possibly, but it still felt an over the top pen.

[fast fable]

💀

So odd...

[snow swan]

.

[dark narwhal]

I mean if u check the rules it was a normal pen

[knotty mist]

Also George and Max squaring up to each other after the race is hilarious

[dark narwhal]

I don't agree with the max 1 grid pen

But it helped him

[knotty mist]

Max, George is literally doing what you and red bull do.

Like any normal competitive driver.

[snow swan]

max acting like he wouldnt do so too is hilarious tbf

[knotty mist]

Please let george have a title fighting car next year, it'll be so fucking funny hahahaha

I want to see Max's head explode. Just that, I don't care who wins the championship.

[dark narwhal]

What did george do?

[knotty mist]

Max called George a rat and apparently has lost all respect for him.

Dudes gone full mourinho. Never go full mourinho.

[dark narwhal]

Oh cause of the quali thing?

[knotty mist]

yea

[dark narwhal]

Oh well yeah

According to the rules u don't get a pen for that

But george was bitching abt it so hard

So they gave it

It's like

When he cried abt mclaren working together as a good team

"I'm a fan at home, this ruins the sport" is code for "waaah waaah i could've won"

[knotty mist]

And you think Max of all people wouldn't be saying the same thing about "team orders" . Off your bike

Max would do exactly the same thing

both are cut from the same cloth you can see it.

Max is just getting a bit of his own medicine.

[dark narwhal]

I mean maybe earlier max

But I don't think this max

[snow swan]

cmon he would do so too if he had a chance

everybody would

[dark narwhal]

4 time champion RAAAAH 🗣️

[knotty mist]

that he is

[dark narwhal]

Yeah but George's sob story abt why he doesn't like it is stupid to me

Immature

[knotty mist]

and a wonderful champ too, but he doesnt like his own medicine at times. George is probably the most like max driver on the grid

[dark narwhal]

There is no one like max rn

Maybe alonso

[knotty mist]

Max plays to the anti british, bunkering against the world crowd. George is the punchy brit who doesnt give a toss what anyone thinks.

[dark narwhal]

George is a media trained robot

[snow swan]

gotta love the drama

[dark narwhal]

Says what he needs to say just to get pens for other people

"Mate he ran into me that's dangerous"

[snow swan]

im still waiting for leclerc drama with somebody

[dark narwhal]

When the guy doesn't even/barely grazes him

[snow swan]

not his teammate

[dark narwhal]

Ferrari is gonna regret losing sainz i think

[knotty mist]

if George was this media trained, why is there so much drama around him?

[neat fern]

Yh fr and Sainz didn’t lift where is his penalty

[knotty mist]

I'm enjoying this..

[dark narwhal]

Because he's sobbing for no reason

[knotty mist]

George has got under peoples skins its hilarious XD

[dark narwhal]

He's complaining for what exactly

He's not in a title fight

[knotty mist]

Sainzs didnt lift... interesting.

[neat fern]

He didn’t

[knotty mist]

hopefully he is next season. Please let it happen lol

[dark narwhal]

He was agreeing with you

[snow swan]

puncture is enough dont do this to me

[knotty mist]

Plus George will be carrying the team. Antonelli was feckin awful all weekend and looked damn slow.

[neat fern]

Is max now?

[dark narwhal]

Meec going from P 3 warrior to title contender in a year?

[dark narwhal]

I mean he's the champion isn't he

[neat fern]

Yh so why does he care when he already won

[knotty mist]

They are the 4th fastest car but look to be improving. Plus, Max shouldn't have been in this race because that testing in the sprint was below par

Leaves a bad taste to me

[dark narwhal]

Because it's petty from george

[knotty mist]

thats rich

Did you see max's antics in mexico

Dude needs to take a hike and reflect on himself about respect.

[neat fern]

Max would do the same like max snitched on lando

[dark narwhal]

You are aware of the parc ferme rules in Qatar right ?

[knotty mist]

I mean more I didn't like they used it as a practice session. the sprint shouldnt be for that

but it was

[dark narwhal]

Also is the like acrual proof that checo had a diff wing on?

[dark narwhal]

Yeah checo was dicking around in last place so why not

[dark narwhal]

Cause get this, max has to think abt redbull too

[knotty mist]

is Checo gone? Is that what horner was suggesting?

I saw that clip i was like wtf I missed that bit

[dark narwhal]

Bro checo is so dogshit

In 15 rounds from miami

He scored less than 50 points

[fleet aspen]

Checo is never going, people been saying he’s leaving for two years now 😅

[dark narwhal]

74% of redbulls points is max

[fleet aspen]

Mexican money talks

[dark narwhal]

Since 2022 max has outscored every team

[knotty mist]

did you see the comments after the race from horner though?

[fleet aspen]

You mean Maxbull 🦁

[knotty mist]

Checo has a choice to make?

[dark narwhal]

@fleet aspen

[knotty mist]

Wtf horner did say that

[fleet aspen]

He says the same thing every few races. Nothing changes

[dark narwhal]

It doesn't talk that loud

[lone venture]

checo is definitely carrying red bull

[knotty mist]

where?

[dark narwhal]

It's to make checo think he's staying

[dark narwhal]

Type shit

37 race wins in 2 seasons

2022 and 2023 ofc

[knotty mist]

btw before people think I hate Max I don't. I think hes a world, world class driver. but george is cut from the same cloth and max's antics in the past it's a bit rich etc. I just think it's all a bit silly.

[fleet aspen]

Let’s do the maths for 2024

Max has 9 race wins

[neat fern]

And Russel don’t?

[dark narwhal]

46

[dark narwhal]

Once again

There's

MASSIVE

Differences between where george is and where max is

[knotty mist]

I mean George hasn't had the chance due to mercedes shit car

we don't know if George can hang with max or not, we've not been able to see it.

[neat fern]

No redbull is already fucked that one race in Qatar didn’t matter

[lone venture]

4 wins mercedes
5 wins mclaren and ferrari
9 wins red bull (max)

[dark narwhal]

Max would've won constructors on his own in 2022 and 2023 without checo

[dark narwhal]

I know that

[dark narwhal]

9 wins max*

[lone venture]

yes

[knotty mist]

Not hard with that rocketship.

Altho yes, Max still would have won either way.

[dark narwhal]

I mean look at his tm8

Nowhere near

Especially now

Cause the redbull was lowkey a tractor after austria

Type shit

[knotty mist]

It's so embarrassing

[dark narwhal]

Fall off hero

[azure isle]

5 dnfs?

is this reminiscent of baku

?

[dark narwhal]

7 times he got 0 points

[knotty mist]

So I worked out if George didn't have his DNFs he'd be 4th in the championship... which is a mega effort in that crash work of a car.

[azure isle]

and the slowest car on the grid manages to score points

[azure isle]

ngl Russell had a 7 second pitstop

that would've put him in like what p6

double merc dnf

[dark narwhal]

A world of ifs

Like

If max didn't have dnfs in 2021 then the title wouldn't have been a question

Most notably Baku and Britain

[oblique elk]

naive to think he isnt against the ropes

[dark narwhal]

I think it's banter

We know checo is cooked

[fleet aspen]

Carlos 4 wins
Charles 5 wins
Total 9 wins Ferrari

Lando 3 wins
Oscar 2 wins
Total 5 wins McLaren

Max has won 9 wins this season which equals Charles and Carlos total wins ever and beats Oscar and lando’s wins.

https://tenor.com/view/max-p1-verstappen-verstapenn-win-winner-gif-9994117068647617302

[knotty mist]

George has more poles than everyone not named Lando and Max, in the 2 best cars....

[dark narwhal]

Checo scored 43 points since miami btw

[knotty mist]

that's pathetic.

Where's his pace gone?

[oblique elk]

outscored by zhou in the last 4 races lmfaoooo

[knotty mist]

Like even if he was average he'd have ok pace... he seemed decent i recall in quali?

[dark narwhal]

I mean look at leclerc

He has the worst pole to win ratio in the sports history if I'm not wrong

Besides kmag ofc

With p%

0

[fleet aspen]

2021/2022 he would either do ok in qualifying or screw it up but then storm through the field on race day.

[oblique elk]

fifth worst

arnoux was worse, he was on pole 18 times and 2 wins from pole

[knotty mist]

I just cant understand the drop off. Perez isn't actually that bad

[dark narwhal]

What car

[knotty mist]

Somethings not been right for ages.

[dark narwhal]

He is trust me

[knotty mist]

He's been a very decent midfield driver, and he's barely F2 right now.

Somethings not right.

[oblique elk]

doesnt specify, he raced for 5 teams in his time

[dark narwhal]

He can't keep the redbull pressure hype

He's like gassy

Gasly

[oblique elk]

he knows he cant win a wdc so hes lost confidence

[dark narwhal]

At redbull

[dark narwhal]

It's the max effect

[oblique elk]

real

[dark narwhal]

Dominates his tm8s

[fleet aspen]

This might sound weird but i agree with what Guenther Steiner said on the red flags podcast.

They should swap Yuki and Checo around. It could just be the car Checo is struggling with.

It would give Yuki a chance to get into Redbull and give Checo a chance in another car that might suit him better

[dark narwhal]

Did this with albon

Ruined his career

Went from a very promising redbull driver to a williams ones

One

[stiff bough]

This is when your confidence is at an all time low and you cant perform no matter how hard you try

[fleet aspen]

I mean Albon is still in F1. He might not be getting titles but he still has a seat 💺

[stiff bough]

There is also motivation at play

[dark narwhal]

Yeah but why did it start in miami

[stiff bough]

who knows what Checo's motivation is like at this stage

[dark narwhal]

Look after miami

[stiff bough]

Probably because he started on pole, and then lost by a large margin from Max who started like P14

[fleet aspen]

It can’t be easy when everyone poking fun 😔

[dark narwhal]

Like he had solid points untill miami

Then scored 43 points from the till now

There

[stiff bough]

His performance issues started in 2023 after Miami, it was okay in 2022 apart from the odd race here and there

but 2023 is where it started, not this year

[dark narwhal]

Yes but

Explain his fall off after miami

Completely gave up

[stiff bough]

No clue, he's been performing for less and less races and getting worse and longer dips in performance

[dark narwhal]

He scored 0 points 7 times

Shocking

[fleet aspen]

Maybe just needs Christmas break to relax and rest himself

[hushed olive]

he had like 5 weekends in a row without getting to q3

at some point of the season

[dark narwhal]

His Christmas gift will be tickets to Chinese f4

[spring citrus]

well 4 points in 5 races vs 4pts in all in 23 races? how many does Kick have in all in constructor? 4 bc of Zhou

[dark narwhal]

They'll probably only tell him after Christmas

[dark narwhal]

I mean checo is in a redbull

And his tm8 won the drivers championship

So

[fleet aspen]

4 times

[dark narwhal]

Tough shit for checo

[candid shoal]

it's not looking good for us geroge & max fans

[dark narwhal]

Looking great for max fans

[wanton ridge]

quite alright for max

[spring citrus]

yea 4times and how RB is towards checo i mean give him credit 1 race he did show improvement yeah doesnt mean much but better than what he has been doing too

[candid shoal]

i mean people who are fans of both drivers

[dark narwhal]

Just scan over this

[wanton ridge]

worse for other drivers fans

[dark narwhal]

Doesn't exist

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/george-russell-crying-gif-22546072

[dark narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/tanguille-lore-george-russell-f1-mercedes-gif-10020272133181598170

[candid shoal]

at least their drivers aren't beefing in front of the media 😭

it's ok i'm a charles fan first

[dark narwhal]

Who cares abt driver beef we watch for races not drama

[twin geode]

Watching the race and the safety car just came out for the debris. What a fucking joke

[dark narwhal]

Did u also see the 2 punctures

Which makes u think the track was unsafe

[twin geode]

There was ONE piece of glass and carbon fibre on the track and they let it turn into a million pieces and cause an unsafe race

[dark narwhal]

Hamilton for royally fucked by that

[dark narwhal]

It was a mirror and someone drove over it

Then it was everywhere

[twin geode]

Yeah I know

I'm saying glass and carbon fibre are the #1 and #2 cause of punctures

[dark narwhal]

They can't just leave it there

So

Sc was needed

It was only for like 2 laps anyway

[twin geode]

Yeah I'm saying a VSC should've been called as soon as or one lap after the mirror flew off Albon so that it was one easy piece to pick up and the vsc didn't disrupt the race too much

[dark narwhal]

Yeah they probably just assumed no one would go off line there

But zhou or bottas had to let a ferrari pass

[storm rock]

No

[candid shoal]

😭 i love this

[storm rock]

we can't make fun of Sauber anymore

😭

[twin geode]

That's a stupid assumption for the FIA, it's on the main straight, in the path of overtakes, lapped cars and the pits

[dark narwhal]

Can and must

[dark narwhal]

Do u think the Fia is smart?

Always assume the least from them

[storm rock]

but they got points!

They're no longer a laughing stock!

[dark narwhal]

Btw chat

Max wasn't complaining abt the pen

He was complaining abt george as a person

[dark narwhal]

4 points rahhhh

[spring citrus]

Im not against max but just how if anything checo performance then and now changed but how is it that he gets screwed over and max hasnt?

[dark narwhal]

Cause max is better

Simple

[spring citrus]

well RB praise max more simple

[opal geyser]

i seen enough sign zhou to red bull

[dark narwhal]

Because he's better

[spring citrus]

better by giving him what he wants vs what they do for his performance?

[dark narwhal]

No like

4 titles and 60+ wins

[spring citrus]

so if i ask to make changes to my car would RB do it? or do it for 'what is best to their interests?'

bc that what they do for Checo

[dark narwhal]

U can't blame perezs car for how shit he is rn

He was in the points today and fucked it away

[spring citrus]

who knows if his skills, driving or even car they made

do we know that they have same performace? not really

[opal geyser]

it’s not the car it’s check

checo

he’s cheeks

[analog merlin]

to be fair to him it wasn't his fault this time

[dark narwhal]

What we do know is perez should be scoring points in a redbull

[spring citrus]

and was it his fault? we dont know but that people saying its the car

[mossy monolith]

Well that was chaos

[dark narwhal]

Didn't he spin on his own

[spring citrus]

and when you have a team who doesnt fully supports you that plays a role. They praise max more..

[analog merlin]

they said it was the car

[spring citrus]

^

[dark narwhal]

Max earned his rb spot

He was there before checo

[analog merlin]

i doubt even stroll would spin on his own during a safety car

[dark narwhal]

You overestimate stroll

Did u see brazil

How quickly he just ended his own race

[analog merlin]

at least it was wet

[spring citrus]

okay 4 year difference in joining doesnt mean anything

[dark narwhal]

It does, 4 years is a long time

[analog merlin]

but beaching it in the gravel was his own stupidity

[dark narwhal]

Also

Look what max did in those 4 years

[spring citrus]

and again my point given RB supports Max more

[dark narwhal]

Outperformed his tm8s

[analog merlin]

as they should because he's the better driver

[dark narwhal]

Simply because he does the best for them

[rugged grove]

Because checo is awful 😭

[dark narwhal]

Max is the most sought after driver in the grid

On*

Everyone wants max

[spring citrus]

as you should support the other member too thats unfair you think?

[rugged grove]

Why would you support a driver that is underperforming like crazy

[spring citrus]

where you lack they have to find a method

[rugged grove]

You would focus on your WDC

[dark narwhal]

Max could walk into any team rn and be 1st driver

[rugged grove]

In what ways have they not supported checo btw

Please list

[spring citrus]

well not say awful but not in good intention of being on same level as max

[dark narwhal]

How did chrco go from p4 in miami to being absolute dogshit from thereon to now

[rugged grove]

Mate he’s getting knockouts out in Q1, he’s not good anymore. Getting dunked by the likes of Lawson in one of the worst cars on the grid

For a team like red bull that’s awful

The only thing he contributes is sponsor money

[dark narwhal]

RAAAAHHHG

1 point let's go

[rugged grove]

LOL

[dark narwhal]

We winning the title with this one

[rugged grove]

if that’s not awful idk what is

[keen pelican]

By keep signing him, regardless of how poor he’s performing in a championship car or even top car who is teammate is so far ahead of him, it’s embarrassing lol

[ocean kite]

Nah leave my man alone

[dark narwhal]

You saw the fuckery max did in Mexico right, and he still did miles better than checo

[spring citrus]

lack in results, scrunity, car performance, telling Checo where his 'skills' are from based on his hertitage i mean cmon he legit is getting the same fair game play.

[ocean kite]

If we really think he might just be the financial support of redbull lol

[rugged grove]

Yo man gotta leave the racing before the racing leaves him

[rugged grove]

Lack of results is RB fault?

[dark narwhal]

That was just marko

[rugged grove]

The car that max won the championship in?

[dark narwhal]

Carragher ah reference

[spring citrus]

lawson a prick kid since he started

[ocean kite]

Let's be honest Max won by pure skill

[rugged grove]

Scrutiny that is complete deserved in such a high pressure environment where you have to perform

[dark narwhal]

Everyone knows this

The redbull is NOT the fastest car

[rugged grove]

As a kiwi I will not tolerate this

[dark narwhal]

But max is the fastest driver

[rugged grove]

Your driver is just awful compared to Liam now

[spring citrus]

thats like any sports really

[rugged grove]

Exactly

So you can’t say it’s unfair

[rugged grove]

Ofc but winking a WDC and your teammate in 8th is ridiculous

[spring citrus]

well depends how the car performance is too do they have the same components?

[ocean kite]

The rb20 is trash

Picture this

You have the best car by far in a season (rb19) and then deliver a car that is not half of that

[rugged grove]

Cause even when checo had a good car in the first 5 races he didn’t produce, Australia was a perfect chance for him to win but no

[dark narwhal]

Checo is 34 years old and in the worst form of his life, lawson is young and promising

[spring citrus]

but again max is great im not saying hes not i just feel that RB is giving checo hard time too

[rugged grove]

I hope Liam gets RB seat

[dark narwhal]

56 second gap 🗣️

[ocean kite]

I don't think Lawson is the best candidate to that rb seat

Not with his attitude

[dark narwhal]

Far better than checo rn

[spring citrus]

and alonso is 43 and hes not getting smack for being a vet?

[ocean kite]

Maybe

[spring citrus]

he can do better too

[rugged grove]

Once again you need to produce evidence

[dark narwhal]

Max had a shit attitude when he started there

[ocean kite]

Yuki is my candidate for the seat

[dark narwhal]

Cause he actually won titles

[spring citrus]

and checo hasnt ?

[dark narwhal]

Yes he hasn't

[ocean kite]

Yeah but max won the first race he's stepped in

[rugged grove]

Look at the attitude max has/had, he was called mad max. It’s the attitude you need to be champion tbh

[dark narwhal]

Goat mentality

[ocean kite]

But to have the right to be like that you need to step hard

[dark narwhal]

(It's was lowkey luck)

It*

[rugged grove]

It’s not about being old, Alonso still produces results in a shit Aston, look at last year. Also he’s a x2 WDC

[ocean kite]

And Lawson doesn't do that

[dark narwhal]

Merc double dnf type shit

[rugged grove]

Lawson has been pretty good considering circumstances

[ocean kite]

Even without the merc double dnf max in the podium is hard

[rugged grove]

He has the right attitude to win

The VCARB was a tractor in Qatar

He spun and got a 10 sec penalty and still finished behind Yuki

Yuki is a great midfield driver but I can’t see him in a top team

People forget how bad he was a couple years back

[dense silo]

Charles and Pierre traveled to Abu Dhabi together 🥹

[ocean kite]

I mean, if Lawson gets a top 5 without insulting someone i'll admit he's good

[dark narwhal]

All in all

Checo is shit

[rugged grove]

Fans of any sport are so reactive, one bad race and he’s the worst driver ever but then a good race and it’s I told you he was good

[ocean kite]

But his talent gets overshadowed by his attitude

[ocean kite]

Truth

[rugged grove]

Top 5 is impossible in that car and you know that

[dark narwhal]

It was planned already

[ocean kite]

Okay mb, a result good with that tractor of a car

[rugged grove]

Maybe, he should focus a bit more on himself I do agree but it’s a high stress environment

[rugged grove]

He did P19 -> 9 in Austin

[ocean kite]

That is something i agree with

[rugged grove]

Unlucky in Brazil when piastri spun him

Defended against Lewis and checo for like 20 laps which was insane

[cyan saffron]

It's rawe ceek for a final time.

[ocean kite]

Fact

[rugged grove]

Then 3 months of nothing 😢

[ocean kite]

But i mean, maybe is just the media yk?

In every single sport the media needs to get in there

[rugged grove]

Ofc

[ocean kite]

If Liam (without the press) had those results no one would've noted that

[rugged grove]

It’s how they get clicks yk

So it always gets blown outta proportion

[dark narwhal]

Anyone think a series with 7 races and basically just one race winner is boring and useless

[desert sundial]

One last race

[rugged grove]

Like the Lando vs max like they were just besties

[ocean kite]

And its worse having mics everywhere

[rugged grove]

Yeah EXACLTY

[desert sundial]

What a year

[ocean kite]

Like Max said

[dark narwhal]

If checo doesn't score points in Abu Dhabi he's gone

[rugged grove]

Drivers always gonna say shit its the pressure yk, some drivers tend to lash out more on the radio and if it helps then yeah

[ocean kite]

I want him in Cadillac

[dark narwhal]

Had to media train yuri for like 2 years

[rugged grove]

Yeah did you see you see convo he had w halmut and Christian

[dark narwhal]

Radio train*

[rugged grove]

Exactly

[ocean kite]

Btw. .Who's y'all candidate for the 11th team?

[rugged grove]

Logan 🦅

Latifi 🐐

[dark narwhal]

Drivers?

[blissful lotus]

I'm out of the loop about the the drama between max and George

[desert sundial]

Hope they bring back Daniel tbh

[ocean kite]

Yuh

[dark narwhal]

Max called george 2 faced

[ocean kite]

Best choice

[rugged grove]

Basically max “lost all respect” for George for reporting it

[dark narwhal]

Prost and Mansell

[rugged grove]

But idk if it’s proper drama I doubt it

[dark narwhal]

The complaint wasn't abt the pen

[rugged grove]

That’s what I heard

[desert sundial]

Wait when did this happen?

[tidal mural]

Bottas and Alonso would be a dream come true

[dark narwhal]

It was abt how george is nice on camera but a tool behind closed doors

[rugged grove]

In quali

[rugged grove]

Gotcha

Bit
Like Alex debatably

[supple thunder]

just a random question but who thinks kick will only get points next year at qatar

[ocean kite]

I want my man Checo and the indy car guy

I think it was Palou

[cyan saffron]

me

And it'll be Bortoleto.

trust

[dark narwhal]

I want albon and sainz in the new team and let williams sink into the abyss

[jagged cloak]

colton herta is basically guaranteed and then they're gonna put some experienced dude in the second seat

[supple thunder]

real

[jagged cloak]

i assume checo in the second seat

[rugged grove]

Do you guys think Franco gets a seat

[jagged cloak]

with that kitkat money

[rugged grove]

Cause 4 crashes in 3 weekends def isn’t good

[supple thunder]

surely

[cyan saffron]

Does he have the super license points together?

[ocean kite]

YES PLEASE

[dark narwhal]

He hasn't done great

[cyan saffron]

Because if not he can't even get a seat.

[supple thunder]

better than what they have

[wanton ridge]

ferrari c^2 got it worse idk what you mean its just racing

[jagged cloak]

i wish i could tell you but theres no easy way to find out how many sl points someone has

[supple thunder]

plus hes rookie

[dark narwhal]

Who is they

[ocean kite]

I think Franco is doing midly good

[supple thunder]

williams drivers

[ocean kite]

Not the absolute GOAT but not as Logan

[rugged grove]

Liam -> RB
Franco -> VCARB
Checo -> 🚮

Otherwise maybe Isaac hijar-> VCARB but I don’t think they trust him idk

[dark narwhal]

Look at the series they've done

[cyan saffron]

Yeah, the easiest way is 2 Wikipedia tables and doing the Maths.

[ocean kite]

I want Checo in cadillac

[wanton ridge]

liam in red bull?

[dark narwhal]

Last one is real

[jagged cloak]

well he finished p2 this year so surely he has enough for an SL

[rugged grove]

Zhou -> Ferrari
Bottas -> Merc

I’m reserve roles

In

[junior granite]

p4 in indycar to get it

[jagged cloak]

thats 30 points for p2

[junior granite]

hes 1 off currently

[rugged grove]

Hopefully lol

[junior granite]

i think

[jagged cloak]

last year he only got 1

[wanton ridge]

yukis doing alright

[dark narwhal]

Max to haas and wins the title by 1 point 🗣️

[jagged cloak]

the year before only 1

[dark narwhal]

Giving haas their first title

[desert sundial]

I still can't believe Checo got my hopes up today when he got to p5

[rugged grove]

Yeah but I doubt Yuki will get into a front team @wanton ridge

More of a midefiled driver

[cyan saffron]

That's only 10 points.

[supple thunder]

bro if only

[jagged cloak]

how long does it take for SL points to expire

[dark narwhal]

Is haas the only team rn to never get a title?

[rugged grove]

Plus in every series they have been teammates Liam has beat Yuki

[junior granite]

yeah with all the other results it'll be enough

[jagged cloak]

vcarb

[cyan saffron]

3 out of the last 4 seasons

[junior granite]

p2 this year was 30 points

[jagged cloak]

and sauber

and aston martin

[dark narwhal]

Ah yes

[dark narwhal]

Alfa

[junior granite]

not that p4 in indycar is a guaranteed feat with andretti being how it is

[dark narwhal]

Basically

[rugged grove]

VCARB got a win before RB lol

[jagged cloak]

no thats sauber

it doesnt count

[dark narwhal]

Vettel my goat

[junior granite]

but it's doable if they keep up their current form

[jagged cloak]

alfa is just a sponsor for this one

so it doesnt count

[ocean kite]

HAAS TO BE THE 2025 WDC

[jagged cloak]

how long does it take for SL points to expire

[ocean kite]

A year?

[junior granite]

i think every year

its recalculated

unless you actually get the superlicense

[dark narwhal]

Kick sauber, sauber, alfa romeo sauber, alfa romeo

[jagged cloak]

ok so it has to be at least 40 points over the previous three seasons

[knotty mist]

Interesting.

[cyan saffron]

Doing the Maths he has 39 I think.

[jagged cloak]

the last three seasons he has 32

[knotty mist]

So George thinks this is all one sided and he’s got things to say about max too

[junior granite]

like i said p4 in indy next year

[knotty mist]

Spicy!

[dark narwhal]

It's 2 sided if u ask me

[jagged cloak]

p5 works too

[cyan saffron]

You can eliminate 2022 or 2023 and add 2021 instead.

[jagged cloak]

you can?

[cyan saffron]

yes

[jagged cloak]

i thought its just previous 3 seasons

[cyan saffron]

3 out of the last 4

[rugged grove]

George and max are like my fav drivers and they fighting 😭

[jagged cloak]

im looking at wikipedia

[dark narwhal]

Joke mightve flown over a few people's heads

[junior granite]

special covid rule

[cyan saffron]

yeah

[jagged cloak]

damn

[junior granite]

but next year that won't apply anymore i think

[knotty mist]

Born from the same cloth. The pair of them

[jagged cloak]

so still requires 8 points then

[rugged grove]

Vegas baby

[junior granite]

9

[rugged grove]

Thst radio message live was impossible to understand

[junior granite]

next year it'll be 2023 2024 and 2025 i think

[jagged cloak]

oh yeah

[dark narwhal]

There's quite a few differences between them

[junior granite]

so 1 30 and

[jagged cloak]

damn

[dark narwhal]

Like look how they were raised

[jagged cloak]

andretti please dont fuck him over

[knotty mist]

Both of them are ruthless as fuck. They just approach it differently

[dark narwhal]

George and ruthless don't fit in my head

[dark narwhal]

George is like a blue collar worker in my head

[junior granite]

ruthless enough to get verstappen penalized i guess

[dark narwhal]

9 to 5 clock in clock out type guy

[knotty mist]

The same guy who punted off his title rival to win the championship in lower formulas? Yes he’s arguably worse than max frankly.