monaco-gp

[unreal folio]

yeah we’ll see

[barren rock]

fr even charles was pissed

[unreal folio]

are the new engines next yr? (25’)

[barren rock]

Ford and red bull?

[unreal folio]

i honestly couldnt tell if he was more mad at the team or carlos 💀

yeah

[barren rock]

"try spanish" 🤣

[barren rock]

i think so

[unreal folio]

was insanely funny icl 😭😭

but carlos also admitted there were issues and those pit stop issues oh my lanta

[fresh carbon]

people on twitter were calling charles racist for that

like what

[unreal folio]

i think charles secretly hoped carlos would get a penalty for that pit entry bail

[barren rock]

hows spanish racist-

[unreal folio]

honestly its js funny

[fresh carbon]

real

[barren rock]

nahhh he was good driver of mclaren thats why he didnt

[unreal folio]

for sure

i mean also this new f1 dude who was brought up im liking so far 😭😭

[barren rock]

what do you think about 2025 WDC?

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/im-delighted-gemma-stafford-bigger-bolder-baking-im-happy-pleased-gif-17823570

[unreal folio]

oh idek anymore tbh

depends how lewis adjusts in the ferrari

is charles doesnt bottle it

rbr driver lineup and their car quality

[barren rock]

very young Red Bull driver 4 time world champion, insanely hated, who can he be 🤔

[unreal folio]

cant imagine who

[barren rock]

yeah makes sense

[barren rock]

you passed it was a trick question

[unreal folio]

wowie did i get a 100%

[barren rock]

yep 😉

[unreal folio]

i dont like predicting and giving false hopes 😭

[barren rock]

i mean after all, hes Hamilton

[unreal folio]

yeah exactly

[barren rock]

like

he will fight no matter what the car or team is

[unreal folio]

oh absolutely

i wonder if he’ll have a new “fire” on the burner with joining ferrari

[barren rock]

like literally spitting out fastest laps

[unreal folio]

right

he seemed like the hamilton ppl know n love moreso in vegas fs

[barren rock]

Merc sabotaged him, i dont think ferrari has the balls to do that

[vital birch]

ye

[barren rock]

so he'll be ahead

[unreal folio]

ferrari would unintentionally make stupid choices

[barren rock]

of leclerc

[unreal folio]

😭

[barren rock]

yeah thats a different story

[unreal folio]

defo

thats a whole nother can of worms

[barren rock]

Plan X or Z?

🤣

[unreal folio]

xyz or efg?

“yeah no we need plan abc.”

[barren rock]

mno should work

nvm the mechanics are sleeping

[unreal folio]

qrs perchance?

[barren rock]

2025 will be a super interesting season, i think the title fight will be Hamilton vs Verstappen vs Piastri

[unreal folio]

i honestly kinda like that mclaren had piastri n norris making the calls this season and not relying on the team

cuz it teaches them to think with the wheel

[barren rock]

mhm

[unreal folio]

difficult sure and costed points sure, but it teaches them valuable stuff id guess

[barren rock]

ye

[unreal folio]

like if u ever go to ferrari and they cant figure it out, u gotta tell em what u need 💀

[barren rock]

Piastri can outperform Norris, 100%

[unreal folio]

itll be exciting to watch

[cunning cipher]

Is the 2024 f1 over?

[barren rock]

they wont be ready

[barren rock]

nope 2 more races to go

[unreal folio]

oh nono defo not

[cunning cipher]

Which?

[barren rock]

Qatar and Abu Dhabi

[cunning cipher]

Ok

[barren rock]

defo

[raw plaza]

I think max can win qatar

Unless red bull get the wrong wing again

💀💀

Qatar should be a track red bull should be good at

[mortal prairie]

so, do you think cadillac will sign a pair of rookies, 1 vet and 1 rookie, or 2 vets

[hollow apex]

they didnt get wrong wing they just dont have a as high speed wing design as other teams because they dont want to spend the money

[raw plaza]

They did they had to trim it

[hollow apex]

the "as high speed wing design as other teams" part is important

[raw plaza]

they have a wing for downforce track for Las Vegas

they just brought a diff one

anyway I’m talking abt qatar

Max Alr won wdc doesn’t matter if the wing is correct or wrong now

[hollow apex]

yeah

[raw plaza]

I’m just saying red bull and McLaren will probably be the faster cars

so max should be competitive

I hope

Well if McLaren tyres degrade faster than how it was in prev races maybe red bull theory of water in tyres was correct

[unreal folio]

id do a rookie and a vet,

[raw plaza]

ngl I think not having the mini drs hampered them in Las Vegas

[unreal folio]

rookie and team can take advice from the vet if they get a good one,

if theyre decentish, they could have a longer-term member from the rookie

[unreal folio]

probably

[raw plaza]

Ferrari 3rd fastest and merc 4th

Hopefully Charles won’t take grid penalty

coz from his quali in Las Vegas it looks like his engine is taking a toll

[uncut fiber]

And Mercedes don't have any more cold track

[raw plaza]

Yea

[wet sequoia]

I hope he takes a new engine, need the hope for McLaren to win 🙏

[raw plaza]

nah McLaren should lose wcc

💪

[uncut fiber]

I guess McLarens will wrap up constructors this weekend.

[raw plaza]

maybe Ferrari will hope max and checo will be good

Maybe max will be checo nah

[craggy marsh]

they’d need to outscore ferraris by like 30

really unlikely

[uncut fiber]

They can do it there's a possibility last year they were good in this track

[unreal folio]

is it his engine or ruining his tires too much

acc yeah

he js looked a bit slow

😭

[uncut fiber]

Piastri was exceptional last year here.

[craggy marsh]

his engine didn’t turn off during practice

piastri a

It prob over heated

[raw plaza]

he would have taken it in Las Vegas grid penalty but apparently coz of rain in Brazil the engine didn’t suffer too much and Ferrari thought they can run it till end of year

[unreal folio]

yeah piastris engine said "im not done yetttt!"

[unreal folio]

im hoping theyll be able to, but if theres somewhere to take a penalty, its qatar where we arent great then slam into abu dhabi

unless i got the ideas wrong u can correct me

[raw plaza]

nah I think Las Vegas could have been better coz atleast he would be fast enough to pass cars

In qatar where they struggle it would be harder

It’s a 10 grid penalty

[unreal folio]

yeah true, vegas wasnt a good weekend and they uh kinda screwed it up regardless so

[raw plaza]

not 5

[pseudo quail]

They probably need to be sure mclaren are doing the same. McLaren’s supposed to have the same issue with a worn out engine

[unreal folio]

theyll tweak it up as much as possible until its inevitable

[raw plaza]

ig maybe both teams will risk running engines until end

[unreal folio]

when did mclaren last switch their engine

ferrari will probably wait to see what mclaren does if they can help it

[raw plaza]

They haven’t both teams will have to take 10 grid if they do

[unreal folio]

oh oh i see

[raw plaza]

but thing is McLaren will probably have a better quali

[unreal folio]

yeah its a lot of factors to weigh out

[raw plaza]

Unless Lex or sainz can pull of something magical

lec

[unreal folio]

idk tbh

[raw plaza]

but max also is fast in qatar

That’s why I think he can win

[unreal folio]

sainz coming off a podium and a not so horrendous pace perchance

charles i cant tell if he had problems cuz of tryna reduce graining/saving tires or what

[raw plaza]

I think sainz rn just thinking abt himeself he wants to experience podiums b4 leaving ig

[unreal folio]

cuz it was said theyre unable to push fully in vegas cuz of tires

[pseudo quail]

Around two races after ferrari did

[unreal folio]

i mean hey, charles has till 28' to get podiums with ferrari sainz doesnt

[unreal folio]

oh thats fast

[raw plaza]

Williams think they can compete in 26

In top

Who knows

[unreal folio]

itll be interesting to see how sainz plays into williams

[raw plaza]

But sainz will probably take a top team contract if it comes

[unreal folio]

im not putting expectations cuz they often lead to disappointment so

[pseudo quail]

Maybe cadillac will be stable enough for him

[unreal folio]

depends on the rookies in line

[raw plaza]

Do u think bottas can join Cadillac

maybe bottas and a rookie

[unreal folio]

anyone could, but i have no guesses tbh

i only assume a vet and a rookie

[raw plaza]

Apparently Andretti is the team principal

which f1 didn’t like to put in the car

[unreal folio]

thatd be interesting

yeah f1 isnt a fan of andretti

[raw plaza]

Hmm

next year if checo still has a seat they don’t care abt wcc

Apparently the red bull employees won’t receive bonus

💀💀coz they lost a millions of dollars

[unreal folio]

that sucks

[raw plaza]

Yeah is the sponsors worth it

💀💀

[unreal folio]

who knows their plans

maybe so

[raw plaza]

British media as usual

It’s sad 💀💀how fixated they are on their own drivers

I get it but discrediting other driver’s success is sad

[hollow apex]

journalists are all stupid

[craggy marsh]

I saw a rumor that they want the extra sim and wind tunnel time

they get enough money from sponsors and the extra aero time will be more helpful for 2026

[neat fern]

wdym checo is goated

[slow ravine]

Imagine Max Leaving for ferrari and get screwed over by strats and pits

[raw plaza]

He will probably have the Hungary rant every race

[slow ravine]

Every lap

[carmine dove]

Does anyone here follow Joe Saward?

I wanna see what he has to say about the Cadillac team

[pseudo quail]

I’ve read some of his articles. Interesting insights

[cloud pollen]

o

[crude vigil]

Literally 💀

[crude vigil]

Uh ofc is the Telegraph 💀💀

[barren rock]

Ferrari **will ** win WCC

[neat fern]

💀

[barren rock]

#bringbackVettel

[cyan saffron]

lol

stupid idiots

[cobalt crypt]

what a joke

[raw plaza]

[cyan saffron]

[drifting sonnet]

Das?

[daring kiln]

Funny how hamilton got 6 of his titles in mercedes while they were unstopabble and is considered a legend

[cyan saffron]

They probably argue he got 1 with McLaren so 2 different teams.

or something like that

[daring kiln]

I read somewhere its not das but something similar that doesnt breach the regulations

[daring kiln]

Vettel got 4 of his titles in rb and is considered a legend while max equaled his championships and got more records more wins etc

[cyan saffron]

They always find a way to justify their countrymen and discredit other drivers.

[daring kiln]

British bias is so dumb istg

[cyan saffron]

for real

The biggest issue with British bias is as English media they aren't only local media, they're international media.

Like German media has insane German bias as well, but well, apart from German speaking countries isn't not relevant for the rest of the world.

Whilst British media is.

[fair night]

every country is biased but there are more british people in f1

[oblique elk]

oh as if other countries' newspapers dont favour their own drivers

dont be ridiculous

[fair night]

and brirish media is used more than other countries

[oblique elk]

not the fucking telegraph 💀

which is the paper that tweet was quoting

[fair night]

why would u chose to read the telagraph anyway 💀

[oblique elk]

i get the argument about british bias with things like sky, because that is probably the biggest worldwide f1 broadcast

but if youre whinging about british bias in smaller papers or outlets youre just being obtuse and complaining for the sake of it

[drifting sonnet]

I read that it was being investigated

[snow swan]

Sehr gut? Un du

[daring kiln]

Honestly started watching f1 tv and im starting to prefer it

[neat fern]

f1tv is still british?

[daring kiln]

Hosts yes not sure bout the managment but they're less biased

[neat fern]

if you think british bias exists you cant get rid of it because its a british sport

[neat fern]

ig, still british commentators

[daring kiln]

As i said less biased

Its the f1 tv hosts that said verstappen is amongts the legends of the sport

[neat fern]

as a non british i havent heard of british bias

[surreal meteor]

So it's their fault that channels in other countries are too cheap to pay their own commentary teams?

[mortal prairie]

nah

i think thats genuinely DAS

[neat fern]

fr

[mortal prairie]

unless it's edited

[cyan saffron]

English is the world language lol.

[neat fern]

okay and?

[cyan saffron]

So what British media says comes onto social media and becomes relevant for the whole world.

[neat fern]

still can have different languages commentary

[surreal meteor]

Genuinely 90% of the complaints about British bias come from Americans who are just simply not used to listening to something without an American bias.

[mortal prairie]

reeeeeaaally, max? rrrreeeeeaaaalllyyy?

[neat fern]

realll

[neat fern]

im not british and havent experienced british bias

[surreal meteor]

It happens, but it's a) uncommon and b) still way less so than damn near any other country's broadcast

I am British but I don't support a British team or driver

[daring kiln]

Its just that a lot more people speak english and not other languages, sure there can be some bias in excitment for a brit on the grid but others shouldnt be discreteded for it for example i know italian commentary love leclerc and ferrari and sainz but when max drove that beatifull brazilian gp the italian commentator was screaming with excitment as well, recognizing the talent over bias

[surreal meteor]

except yk, Spanish

[daring kiln]

Cant win it all ig

[surreal meteor]

I guarentee you Spanish TV is a lot more biased than British broadcasts are

[daring kiln]

Yeah true but still english is more popular and either way a lot of spanish speaking countries root for the spanish drivers so its not a big deal

[surreal meteor]

It's not more popular

[daring kiln]

Mate

[surreal meteor]

There's more Spanish speakers and F1's popular in most Spanish speaking countries

English literally isn't more popular lmao

[mortal prairie]

i thought the server logo was interlagos and was confused for a moment

[daring kiln]

English is a secondary language to a lot of people

[surreal meteor]

Okay?

Like ESPN still chooses to run Sky F1 UK commentary

(and replace ESPN with whoever it is in Canada or Australia or wherever)

That's not a Sky issue, that's a whoever is re-broadcasting it in that country issue

(Or honestly, it's because it isn't really an issue at all and people just like to complain)

[oblique elk]

i dont pay a huge amount of attention to the boardcasts but ive never really noticed bias in sky's broadcasts anyway

some other news outlets though? yeah of course there's bias

but as long as the widely broadcast one isnt, i dont see how its an issue, people just want to complain about things and get all the buzzwords in there

[mortal prairie]

i have an idea on how to reduce bias

we'll make some random guy who's never even heard of the sport become the guy who reports on everything

[lilac rose]

I mean, that's exactly like a new fan coming into the sport. Eventually when they hear enough stuff, biases starts to form.

[orchid wagon]

Fire the guy after 2 months

[lilac rose]

Or hire a guy with dementia?

[mortal prairie]

yes

[lilac rose]

Joe Biden after he steps down?

[red trail]

W server pfp

[lilac rose]

My pfp better

[sly badger]

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[red trail]

naw bro

mike tyson>>

ur pfp has no dignity

fighting someone double his age

[lilac rose]

Everything was consensual. So nothing wrong with it

Mike wanted the money, so he agreed

[still forge]

Icarus flew too close to the sun, it seems

[snow swan]

Does anyone know what went on w Ferrari last week? I only seen Carlos decide not to pit at the last second and leclercs radio at the end

I’m so confused 😔

[faint terrace]

@snow swan they agreed rules before the race with the drivers about what to do in certain situations but Ferrari didn’t follow them in the race

[still forge]

Carlos was asking to box for 3 laps or so, when they finally got him in, they were not ready

So they told him to stay out

[frozen totem]

Let's go Sargeant

[junior goblet]

most overlooked radio was russell sayin “nice job there by the… green thing”😂😂

[fleet aspen]

McLaren are on 608 points.
Redbull are on 555 points.

That’s 53 points difference.

There is 2 full races (88 points maximum) and 1 sprint race (15 points maximum).

So 103 points available maximum.

Can Maxipies and Checo win the constructors championship as well this year? 👀🦁

[junior goblet]

no

[waxen siren]

not unless perez learns how to drive again

[stuck temple]

Theyre gonna have to give him Nos or something

Or like DAS

[vale rose]

no

[crystal jay]

Real bro

[simple ice]

Basically impossible, only if Perez knows how to handle a f1 car

[red trail]

i dont need luck to preform i decide when to preform good - lewis this season

[lilac rose]

Where's the great Mexican driver Checo Perez?

[lilac nova]

CHECO TO COOK

Back to back wins incoming

[deft trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-no-lolno-laugh-gif-4581897

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/checo-perez-checo-win-perez-win-checo-singapore-gif-27642695

[lilac rose]

Checo Perez contract extension towards 2027

[lilac nova]

https://tenor.com/view/not-funny-haha-not-funny-hahaha-evil-laugh-laughing-gif-10643785047003971734

[lilac rose]

This is so not true

[golden egret]

no mikey no

[snow swan]

Fr?

[hushed olive]

Not with checo being ass

[celest wadi]

Leclerc and sainz fans are at each other's throat rn💀

[stiff venture]

Sainz has fans?

[coarse obsidian]

They are? Haven’t seen it.

[celest wadi]

Yeah basically on every social media platform
Ferrari fans worry abt everything but our horrendous strategy

[lilac rose]

We're not ready 🤡

[coarse obsidian]

Strategy? Like Papaya Rules? Like Norris should’ve one more win.

Ferrari fans need to calm down. Well those other Ferrari fans.

[celest wadi]

I'm a ferrari fan and a mclaren hater btw

And pls stop saying " papaya rules" I physically cringe everytime I see it💀

[lilac rose]

Whoever came up with that should be fired lol

[coarse obsidian]

Who? Zak?

[lilac rose]

Was it Zak?

[coarse obsidian]

He allows it

[stiff venture]

Who is the mclaren TP?

[lilac rose]

Ebrahim raisi

[tepid latch]

Las Vegas has delivered 2 bangers, how often till the hate goes away

[coarse obsidian]

Idk, but the race should be scheduled 3- 4 hours earlier

[snow swan]

Omg sameee

[dapper plover]

CHECOOK

[coarse obsidian]

Yeah cook to the mid-field

[rotund ice]

yall skull react this pls

[vocal lynx]

more like with the saubers

[unreal folio]

this was so funny to watch i cannot

[remote knoll]

😭

where did bro get the r and w from

[hushed olive]

thats the same guy who said

from mexico

its sergio checooo

peeereeez

[remote knoll]

man couldnt take 2 minutes to learn brothas name

[river root]

Brits called Lando watch out my guy

[craggy marsh]

what the actual fuck

[azure isle]

why

[river root]

Just for info - peer pressure

Jk

Never peer pressure

Always the absolute best moment from my non existent brain

[tardy jackal]

..

[coarse obsidian]

That’s why his brother is better. Michael is so 80s and 90s.

[remote knoll]

what

[azure isle]

soon this channel will be renamed Qatar gp

[regal needle]

Morning Team! 2 Days Left until it's Qatar Practice and Sprint Qualifying

Wonder if McLaren will of Course win their Constructors Championship this Weekend

If not, Abu Dhabi will be the Day they will secure it

[azure isle]

Forza Ferrari.

1-2 practice

1-2 quali

1-2 race

sainz win

[regal needle]

Hopefully

Max still aiming for Podium again

[azure isle]

still it's actually close

besides the Mercedes domination in vegas I think itll be nice

big advantage Mercedes had were the tires

[mental citrus]

didnt mercedes top every session except for q2 in vegas?

or was it all

[azure isle]

while the cars were driving were driving on basically sandpaper

[azure isle]

top

Hamilton lead from fp1-q2 besides fp2

then p10 q3

Russell got pole

Mclaren Ferrari pace comparison isn't that crazy anyway

[regal needle]

Lewis probably already planning his Farewell Celebration for Mercedes later in Abu Dhabi

[azure isle]

first time hamilton is driving in a non silver car

I will forever mention this

[regal needle]

Right after that, He'll be set for his Preparation to join Ferrari

[mental citrus]

i can imagine the radio will be 2-5 minutes long

[regal needle]

Ferrari already setup a House for him

It's the House Michael Schumacher had stayed once

[azure isle]

Hamilton brought Mercedes power

so did merc

shame bottas is getting dropped

bottas is a really good driver

[regal needle]

Valtteri is expected to return to Mercedes later

He'll be a Reserve Driver there

[azure isle]

really?

[regal needle]

Yeah

[azure isle]

oh ok

[regal needle]

I'm expecting that

[mental citrus]

as a test driver

[azure isle]

at least he's driving a fast car (2025)

[mental citrus]

yeah

better than a green tractor

[azure isle]

what will be the speed deficit from 2025 to 2026

?

[regal needle]

Eddie Irvine was actually the Last British Driver to drive for Ferrari

[azure isle]

I assume its not massive

[mental citrus]

not much i think its similar

[azure isle]

that was decades ago

[regal needle]

Lewis is next to be the First British Driver to drive for Ferrari since Eddie

[mental citrus]

2026 will be 2-4 seconds slower than current

[regal needle]

Lewis is still hoping Ferrari can make the 2026 Car of theirs Faster

[azure isle]

first of the millennium

since he left Ferrari at 1999 (eddie)

[regal needle]

Indeed

[split bane]

Well, he saw the progression of the 2026 Mercedes engine before announcing his transfer to Ferrari...

[lilac nova]

Almost race weekend!

f1 | qatar-gp

https://tenor.com/view/f1-intro-george-russell-george-russell-tpose-gif-11974953692443681865

[split bane]

Is your pfp inspired by this legendary pose or it is just a coincidence?

[wet sequoia]

Engine isn’t the problem, Mercedes have chosen to ignore his ideas and tyre strategies multiple times

[kindred cedar]

whyd he go to ferrari then

[wet sequoia]

When your own team doesn’t listen to you how can you stay?

He has no faith anymore in Mercedes, this entire regulation era he must feel undervalued enough to want to jump ship

[split bane]

The team stopped listening to him after he said he'd go to Ferrari, last year and in 2022 Lewis were testing every possible solution on the car

[wet sequoia]

2022 was his testing year while Russell got used to the Mercedes car, 2023 the car was so coinflip

[kindred cedar]

but he went to a team ghats famous for being stupid and not listening to their drivers

[wet sequoia]

In the past yeah, Ferrari management “knows all

Vasseur is a very different TP

[kindred cedar]

literally happened in vegas with carlos

and in other races that i cant remember

[split bane]

The team can't mentally control their drivers, if they want to do something (also stupid things) they do it

[wet sequoia]

Sainz is also leaving and very much a rogue driver at this point

[split bane]

Yeah

[wet sequoia]

At this point he’s trying to drive like a top tier driver instead of a team player

It should be slightly better next year

But unsure how fast Hamilton was adapt to the Ferrari

[stiff bough]

that's not really a problem with carlos though is it

He and Leclerc were given two very different radio messages

Objectively, he put Leclerc under no pressure doing what he did

[split bane]

He also said that in future he would like to return in Ferrari, if he doesn't act like a team player now I don't know how he can return back in Ferrari someday

[stiff bough]

he has no obligation to act like a team player at this stage

[wet sequoia]

Ferrari would be looking at Bearman as the future, not Sainz

[stiff bough]

unless it harms the amount of points the team get at the end of the day, I see no reason why he should play second fiddle

[wet sequoia]

Sainz has a better chance at Red Bull if Verstappen pulls the plug and quits F1

[wet sequoia]

They had a potential 2-4 though, least they thought so

[split bane]

Yeah, but to keep the gates open for a chance in the future, if in future no one wants him there would be Ferrari to be the only team that wants him

[wet sequoia]

Unsure how it would have happened but

[stiff bough]

if they thought there were getting a 2-4 this race

they've got some silly brains

[wet sequoia]

Well they do want to beat McLaren for WCC

Must have seen some slim chance

But I don’t see how a 2-4 would have happened

[split bane]

Well, if Sainz pitted earlier he could have challenged Hamilton for p2, in the race Sainz finished only 4 seconds behind Hamilton

[stiff bough]

Could've, but the team were somehow not ready

Despite confirming to box

[split bane]

Well, surely these aren't the biggest errors in 2024

[stiff bough]

I can't really think of any others that weren't driver inflicted

[split bane]

Canada, the car was shit, the team did a completely wrong setup for qualifying and race

A terrible setup on both cars

[stiff bough]

i don't really think a good setup would've helped them much anyway

the failed upgrades really made their mid season tough

[split bane]

Also that was fault of the team

But even with this errors, without Sainz crashing in Baku, Ferrari would have been much closer to Mclaren

[stiff bough]

yeah, but it's happened to almost everyone except mclaren and haas this year so I don't think I'll hold it to them

[split bane]

I think that to Mclaren errors happened between Bahrain and Jeddah, where their drs was shit, then they did everything well with the car updates

[wet sequoia]

Without Norris having an incident in Austria McLaren would have been further ahead

Or Sainz taking out Piastri’s race in Miami

[split bane]

that accident was induced by Verstappen, it would have happened anyway

[lilac nova]

Pure coincidence. 👍

[wet sequoia]

I know, but the end result is Norris lost a minimum of 18 points that race

There has been alot of lost points from both WCC contender teams

[split bane]

But then in Austria Mclaren weren't fighting for wcc, it was Lando going for the wdc

[wet sequoia]

Every single team would sacrifice WDC for WCC

Drivers want WDC the most and back then the WDC was a far off concept for McLaren

[split bane]

If a pilot can win the wdc the team tries to win both

[wet sequoia]

They definitely will

But the teams themselves will prioritise the WCC for the money over the WDC for the glory

In Austria it was to early to tell how badly the RB20 was becoming

So back then WCC was the goal

And Max still had a massive buffer to protect himself

[split bane]

Well, for RB just losing their superiority is absolutely a bad thing

[wet sequoia]

They have the WDC yes but they’ve lost money due to Perez which is bad for the shareholders

[craggy marsh]

eh

depends but if they’re forced to pick

most pick wdc

[wet sequoia]

Depends on their own situations

[split bane]

They know what it's like to have Perez on the team, they could fire him some time ago.

[wet sequoia]

If both are reasonably possible they’ll go for both

If they have 2 good drivers it’s WCC

[craggy marsh]

actually i think every team would prefer a wdc over a wcc

[weary cedar]

At this rate it doesn't look like Perez will be booted anytime soon.

[craggy marsh]

no one remember the 2008 ferrari championship or the 2021 mercedes championship

[weary cedar]

Hopefully he has a good 2025. This year is one to forget.

[wet sequoia]

Only because the WDC has more glory attached to it and more media attention

[craggy marsh]

but every remembers lewis in 2008 and max in 2021

[wet sequoia]

After Abu Dhabi Red Bull will look at their options, Perez might go if Hadjar wins the F2

[wet sequoia]

Again, glory

Because ultimately one driver runs the car and there is always only one winner

[stiff bough]

idk who no one is

lots of people remember those constructor championships

[weary cedar]

Still firmly believe Perez might just stay atleast for one more year. Lawson looks promising, but so did Gasly and Albon before they were both promoted.

Tsunoda might just make it though.

[daring hazel]

WDC is for glory, WCC is for giving profits to the staff/team. both are critical for a team's longevity/morale

[wet sequoia]

But Perez is not performing in a top team car, the fact 7 other drivers have at least 2 wins and he has none says alot

[craggy marsh]

well that isn’t so important any more, with the cost cap it’s significantly less important

[stiff bough]

Gasly was probably not ready and I’m sure Red Bull knew that when promoting him

[daring hazel]

I am honestly not sure what will happen to Tsunoda since Honda is switching to AM come 2026

[stiff bough]

Ricciardo leaving put them in a tough spot

[craggy marsh]

i think perez will be fine hopefully red bulls extra sim and wind tunnel time can make a more drivable car

[stiff bough]

Putting Albon in the car, despite actually doing better than Gasly was just foolish

it seems pretty drivable to me

[craggy marsh]

i really think if perez was the problem red bull would have dropped him a while ago

[weary cedar]

Something happened after Imola. He was performing well at the start of the season. Genuinely believe it might have something to do with the balance.

[craggy marsh]

i’m pretty sure red bull knows that the car is the problem and that’s why they haven’t dropped checo

[weary cedar]

He looks so unconfident in that car, especially when you compare his quali laps with Verstappens.

[stiff bough]

even if the balance of the car became less than ideal, he’s a veteran driver with over a decade of experience driving multiple different types of cars, good and bad. Someone of his caliber should be capable of adapting

It’s not just this year either.

Last year that car was as perfect as you could get

And he was still doing rather mediocre considering the circumstances.

[weary cedar]

Horner did mention that it was all Verstappen to be fair. But yeah, Perez could be doing better.

[stiff bough]

yeah, he was the only one competent behind the wheel that year in the team

[weary cedar]

They could have signed Sainz. No shame in doing it, since they already signed a non-red bull driver, unironically, it was Perez.

[stiff bough]

technically signing sainz would be signing an ex Red Bull driver

but they didn’t want to match Audi’s offer

[weary cedar]

Part of me feels he would have still struggled though. But it's never certain, since the Ferrari is a completely different car from the Redbull.

Hopefully 2025 is a clean, sheet of paper. Perez still has some talent in him.

[wet sequoia]

They’ve tried that in Toro, both drivers might have become better drivers but they definitely have not matured mentally on the track

Also Perez should not be in Red Bull

He’s a mid tier driver and he lays all the fault on the team for giving him a “shit” car

It was improved since Austin

And still have Q1 exits

[weary cedar]

Perez has never said that though. Interviews always say he is simply having a bad weekend. Puts it on himself.

[stiff bough]

I think I’ve heard a few interviews of him blaming it on the car

or just being “unlucky”

[weary cedar]

I haven't seen one. Probably my bad.

[stiff bough]

either way

He’s gotta change something cuz clearly whatever is happening rn ain’t working

[fickle forum]

Has that ever happened?

[wooden kettle]

perez talks about The Issue (tm)

[stiff bough]

not to the main team afaik

[fickle forum]

Perez brings in too many sponsors for rb to drop him

[wooden kettle]

mf the issue is you

[stiff bough]

what will Red Bull do without him

and his sponsors

might go bankrupt

nah

[weary cedar]

Austin was an ok result in my opinion. P7 in the race was decent. Could have been better, but it's an alright result and was a step in the right direction.

[fickle forum]

Redbull seems to change their mind about him every week almost

[wooden kettle]

isnt even helmut turning on him now

[unreal folio]

idk but he mentioend the post-abu dhabi discussion

[fickle forum]

I think he already was, it's horner who held him and recently gave in too

[weary cedar]

We will know by Abu Dhabi. Earliest by Qatar and the latest we get is in 2025.

[fickle forum]

I saw rumors that perez might not finish the full season but that's just fake

Same with lewis

[unreal folio]

its literally 2 races, im sure theyll be fine

[fickle forum]

Yeah that rumor was like 2 weeks before las vegas but it's 99% sure fake so

[unreal folio]

rbr's wcc is gone and they got wdc so theyre js gon go with the wind

yeah no i havent seen much ab it

[weary cedar]

A new rumour pops up almost every race weekend. A shame.

[wet sequoia]

Media have to keep putting out news somehow 🤷

All the major storylines are basically done

Just the fight for WCC title and the fight for 6th in WCC

[weary cedar]

Speaking of WCC

Mclaren have bagged that. Unless they get super unlucky with a double dnf.

Genuinely believe Ferrari can still bag it if they have the pace advantage in Qatar and Abu Dhabi (and the strategy)

[unreal folio]

i mean u saw the issues in vegas with the ferrari pit wall and then qatar isnt a great track for us but maybe we can pull sumn outta their engines

[wet sequoia]

The kerbs are been filed down so they’re not attacking the tyres as much when the drivers attack the kerb themselves

Also gravel traps in other areas

So no improvements or changes to the tyres, just the circuit

[weary cedar]

Just maybe

[acoustic moss]

Abu Dhabi could be a good race for the scuderia, provided they do not mess things up

[unreal folio]

yeah

[craggy marsh]

will the lap limit from last year exist for qatar

[hearty shoal]

Vegas was nice.

even as a Mclaren fan

[left matrix]

lap limit?

was it becaues of the heat n humidity? cos probably not its gonna be like 20 celcius

[craggy marsh]

it was something like

18 laps max so it was hell for the drivers

basically every lap was a qualifying lap

[left matrix]

ohhh

nvm

cos the tires

right

[mellow finch]

Y hasn’t sainz still not gotten a penalty

Any word from the fia?

[daring hazel]

Something about his moves being a result of team miscommunication

rather than him deceiving russell

that's what i remember from the broadcast

[craggy marsh]

it was deemed as a simple track limits violation

[craggy marsh]

something like this

guess the race director felt nice

[vale rose]

The commentators got it wrong, it isnt illegal

Crossing the pit entry line is illegal IF you go into the pits
If you stay out of the pits, it's allowed

[wet sequoia]

For the moment no, it wasn’t the heat, it was the kerbs breaking the tyres

Kerbs have been filed to stop them damaging the tyres and gravel traps have been installed elsewhere to stop the cars taking so much

[stiff bough]

Also depends on the RD notes

because the rule gives the RD jurisdiction on whether or not it gets enforced

and how it gets enforced

[wet sequoia]

Crossing the pit line entry at all is illegal

Hamilton got 5 seconds for going across the line and not even pitting

Piastri caught it out earlier this year

I’m guessing the pit lane entry line is up until where it reconnects with the track limits

Seems like in a weird way it was correct to call it a track limits violation

[stiff bough]

Yeah, I meant for it to be an instant time penalty it’s dependent on the RD notes

[rain storm]

If you don't gain any advantage or create a dangerous situation there should be no penalty imo

[wet sequoia]

Except it is a dangerous situation

You take the apex into that corner

You have a car come from the pit entry, flying through track limits where your taking the optimal racing line

[grave cosmos]

Charles showing signs of Mad Max in him

[main furnace]

ya true

[drifting pond]

Merc 1-2?

Russel P1?

We cooked👍🏻

[lilac rose]

Gonna get fucked in Qatar though

[drifting pond]

True...

I'm just not gonna watch that😭

[raw plaza]

Ngl 2021 is still my fav coz there was just two drivers at top

Fighting for a championship

Both of them would be disappointed at p2 that’s the level I like

[drifting pond]

FACTS🔥

But someone was robbed BUT I WONT SAY NUN CUZ IM NOT STUCK IN THE PAST

[raw plaza]

this year there was barely any scrap for the lead

2021 served coz both max and lewis would fight for lead

[drifting pond]

Lando is below average for an F1 driver

[barren oriole]

for how long have you been watching?

[raw plaza]

it was unfair but it’s not really max’s fault like how most ppl blame

max just took advantage of the situation

[drifting pond]

True

But it was planned by Christian horney

[proven leaf]

Baseless comments . Explain

[drifting pond]

Hamilton in Q3😭

[drifting pond]

It explains itself

[proven leaf]

Like .. say something to support it

And no it does not

Blud has 100 point finishes in 126 races and he has a midfield car for the first few years of his career

[drifting pond]

Did you watch a single 2024 race

He proved to everyone he is average at BEST

Especially under pressure

[lilac rose]

He's definitely one of the fastest guys on the grid right now

If he sorts a few things out, he can easily win a championship

[thorny ivy]

This server is online 24/7

[drifting pond]

ABSOLUTELY TRUE

But 4 now he just isn't in the condition to do that

[lilac rose]

Things change. Drivers change. Norris himself has changed...

[drifting pond]

Id wish he changes more

[compact cove]

Maybe if you had said "below average for a champion", i could've agreed. Hes definitely not up there with champions and clear champion-material drivers. But to say below average driver in general? A bit of a stretch there

[drifting pond]

Below average for a race winner

But definitely great as a driver

[compact cove]

I wonder what that says about his teammate also who is lower in the standings than him though

[drifting pond]

He's still inexperienced

[compact cove]

Not hating on anyone w this btw. Just pointing out how landos criticisms are always so double standard

[compact cove]

But fair. I'll take that i guess

[lilac rose]

Internet ecochamber at work

[compact cove]

Fr :')

[lilac rose]

The narrative started as 'hes not good as max'

Now he's worse than stroll

[compact cove]

Idk why that made me laugh

Extreme and very ridiculous lmao

[vernal holly]

The battle for P6 in the constructors' is so close 👀

Haas 50 points
Alpine 49 points
RB 46 points

Two rounds to go! 🇶🇦🇦🇪

[proven leaf]

Yes I did , he just makes a few mistakes , and is one of the best drivers on the grid if you compare them

[drifting pond]

A few?

[proven leaf]

This is the first time he’s fighting at the front

Never won a race before and is thrust into a said so title fight the first time he does

[drifting pond]

I just meant he's not that good yet

[proven leaf]

Give him s9me time he’ll correct it . This year is nothing but a learning curve

[proven leaf]

He rarely crashes

[drifting pond]

I believe that

[proven leaf]

Aside from his starts , his mistakes are few

[drifting pond]

Mistakes aren't just crashing

[lilac rose]

Half of his loses were due to bad team strategy

[proven leaf]

Canada

For example

[drifting pond]

The other half?

Driver

[lilac rose]

Silverstone

[drifting pond]

Error

[snow swan]

Real

[proven leaf]

Name them

[lilac rose]

Happens to everyone

[proven leaf]

And don’t start about starts

[drifting pond]

Ion got time lol

[drifting pond]

Why?

[drifting pond]

True

[proven leaf]

He can fix his starts . What other errors in races does he have ?

[lilac rose]

Starts are easy to fix, yes

[proven leaf]

Everybody just starts blaming lando like it’s second nature lmao

Gets annoying at this point

[lilac rose]

Brazil's inside line has more grip or something...? I've heard that. Not sure though

Everyone on the left suffered in nederlands

[proven leaf]

Lando mistakes = starts is what most people start with

[proven leaf]

That , yes

[proven leaf]

That , I’m not sure

[dire condor]

The biggest thing lando has to learn is to deal with pressure

Thats where most of his mistakes came from i think

[solemn egret]

Now there is 2 races left this season.

Both of them taking place in the Middle East.

[lilac nova]

https://tenor.com/view/rawe-ceek-race-week-f1-jeż-dance-gif-453156199408575219

[slender bay]

Lando has to be crucial for McLaren if they want to win the constructors' championship because Piastri in these last races is not performing very well

[fickle forum]

rae cheek letsgo

[woven rapids]

you see piastri gonna get a hat trick this race

[woven rapids]

YAAAA RAWE CEEK

[kindred cedar]

@rae has cheek?

[kindred cedar]

MEDIA DAY TMRW!

[fickle forum]

[winged dagger]

who performs the best in hot conditions?

btw whats the gap between leclerc and norris now

21 points so leclerc needs at least 1 win in the next races to stand a chance

[still forge]

Yeah it's either a Norris DNF in Qatar or it's done

[kindred cedar]

norris dnf in qatar or out of points

why do people always go to a dnf

[fickle forum]

We love drama

[blazing cargo]

Rng is not up yet??

[lilac rose]

Norris out of points doesn't as good, yeah

[timber oxide]

Ferrari

[proven leaf]

Weather conditions this time about 18 degrees

So merc might do good surprisingly

Can merc realistically get p3 ?

Oh no lmao idts

RBPT -555 , MERC - 425

[winged dagger]

Ferrari vs McLaren will be interesting

[proven leaf]

Maybe

It could be a p2- p3 fight between Ferrari and rb

[still forge]

Cause it's not probable for any of the top 4 teams (minus Checo) to finish on normal conditions outside of the points

[neat fern]

podium predictions?

[winged dagger]

max vs ferrari*

[proven leaf]

Lando , Lewis , george

[cyan saffron]

Oscar, Charles, Carlos

[winged dagger]

Oscar did well in Qatar last year

[neat fern]

the dream

[neat fern]

or lewis first ho

tho

[winged dagger]

george charles carlos

[neat fern]

for me

[neat fern]

nahhhh

[neat fern]

ham lando lec

[proven leaf]

Anybody know why Oscar’s been on a slump lately ?

[neat fern]

he has?

[proven leaf]

He hasn’t been at the top recently

[neat fern]

he did qualify p1 in brazil

for the sprint

[proven leaf]

After that

And a few before that

[snow swan]

my predictions for the podium in qatar is 1:charle 2: max 3: oscar

[lilac rose]

1. Lando
2. Charles
3. Oscar

[austere acorn]

I hope that Ferrari wins the wcc (massive Ferrari simp)

[lilac rose]

Ferrari

[winter forge]

Because he isn’t that good

And Lando has made fewer mistakes

[sick bloom]

The Ferrari might struggle on tyres if they have a repeat of Vegas.
I feel like McL will set the pace, Red Bull (Max) will follow, with the Mercs and Ferraris keeping their own pace.

The Alpine I feel is going to sit at the extremes—doing very well or very poorly—depending on the weather

[winter forge]

this track SHOULD be a merc track

[sick bloom]

Idk if I misheard, but Toto said they would struggle, at least compared to Vegas, at Qatar.

But then again, it was late at night and might have just forgotten team bosses like to say those sorts of things

[winter forge]

Mercedes also don’t know why they were fast at Vegas

[unreal folio]

the merc historically likes colder weather supposedly

like spa and silverstone for instance

and qatar is far from being cold so it makes sense theyd possibly struggle

[proven leaf]

Makes sense but it’s not like he’s bad yk he’s been called a future wdc by many

[lilac rose]

Yep

McLaren should be good

[snow swan]

Wait qatar already?

[lilac rose]

This is the case

[fossil goblet]

Qatar on paper is a track which will suit the characteristics of the W15... (as said by Toto)

They will not be as good there as they were in Vegas since their car performs better in cooler conditions..

[cyan saffron]

https://x.com/F1/status/1861816272125665482

Formula 1 (@F1) on X

BREAKING: Formula 1 to continue to race in Monza until at least 2031 🇮🇹

#F1 #ItalianGP

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 4:56 PM

huge W

[fossil goblet]

They should be 3rd quickest ig?

[fossil goblet]

Agreed

[lilac rose]

True

[fossil goblet]

Watch Lewis win in front of the Tifosi's for 7 years in a row

(let me be delusional)

[winter forge]

He’s been called that based on not much tbh

Personally I’ve not seen anything that makes me think he has that level of talent

[unreal folio]

i mean most ppl have been saying whatever the paper shows may not be fully accurate

[fossil goblet]

If we know something this season... it's that we can't be sure

[fossil goblet]

This is how I think it'll be

But it could be anything

[unreal folio]

real

[fossil goblet]

Who do you think will be quickest at Qatar?

I think it'll be Mclaren.. it's on paper a track which should suit Mclaren well

I thought Ferrari will be quick, but Carlos did say he expects the Mclarens to be better for the last 2 races but let's see

ANYTHING can happen

I hope Ferrari win the constructors 🤞🏼

[kindred cedar]

= 7 more ferrari wins

[cyan saffron]

yes

7 more times Forza Ferrari

[unreal folio]

this is kinda what im thinking too

[cyan saffron]

7 more times a Tifosi fest

[unreal folio]

ferrari will push but tires holding up is an issue apparently now

[proven leaf]

Holy fuck wait a minute

Valteri and magnussen at Cadillac for 2026

How’s that sound

[knotty mist]

Russell I'm adamant, in a car that

is fast, would at least be 50/50 with Max

His qualifying comparisons being shown today are nuts

minimum best qualifier on the grid, more likely George is one of the top 3 drivers.

[mossy monolith]

@knotty mist you are my favorite person. You get it

GR63 supremacy

[frank glen]

Someone found that between 2022 - Las Vegas, GR and LH have been on par in terms of points scored

[knotty mist]

Also... Lewis will beat Charles

Charles is a little overrated right now. Hasn

Hasn't kicked on since 2021

[frank glen]

Thing is, Lewis is getting bad at quali but his pace is always amazing and the inverse is for Charles

[knotty mist]

I think Lewis will be closer to Charles than George. Personal opinion

And will be faster in the race than Charles too

[frank glen]

Lewis has been in F1 since 2007, he knows when a car is capable of winning races or not. If SF25 (I hope that’s the name) is a race winning car, Lewis will take that car to new heights

What has been happening now at Mercedes, the car is so inconsistent, he can’t trust it while George who spent 3 years dragging Williams to points is use to making an awful car climb places

That’s why even though the Merc isn’t good, George will find a way to score points

[knotty mist]

agree. Feels a little snide though

Nothing to do with George but the whole

the cars underneath my standard, give me what i deserve rubs me the wrong way a bit

[lilac rose]

Norris is like 2 without Azerbaijan

[frank glen]

Lewis came into the sport with a winner mentality and is used to being in the Top 10 and podiums, George for 3 years had to move heaven and Earth to get a point. Also, Lewis has gone through at least 4 different regs and what he’s used to doing in the previous regs isn’t working it’s hard to form a new driving style

And when you’re new driving style isn’t getting wins like you used to, you start feeling angry and second guessing what’s going on

[frank glen]

Norris has improved a lot in quali, it’s his race pace and starts that need more work

[lilac rose]

Race pace isn't that bad. Starts, yeah.

[knotty mist]

race pace is good. He needs to be more ruthless, his starts are pants tho. Chalk and cheese the expectation of Lando into turn 1 and george. George will get a good start and will lead, Lando won't get a good start and won't lead.

[lilac rose]

True

[knotty mist]

Lando was excellent tho this year. He just needs to stop being so soft.

[frank glen]

Oscar starts have been impressive most notably Hungary and Monza

[lilac rose]

He needs to take risks. But he couldn't really do that this year due Verstappen having a lead.

[frank glen]

I don’t think that’s an excuse

[lilac rose]

It is

[still forge]

To be fair, isn't that exactly when you should take a risk?

You're in a faster car, surely you must do something to finish in front

[knotty mist]

the team tbf weren't helpful. Infact, negligent is a better view of them

[lilac rose]

Nope. You crash you lose the entire thing

[frank glen]

If you’re not prepared to take a risk whether you’re 10,20,50 points down, when why are you a driver?

[knotty mist]

Piastri should have moved over twice and they didn't need to faf about with pitstop decisions too

[frank glen]

Max took significant risks during the mid season in order to sustain his lead, Carlos takes massive risks for the one stop in Monza and George took a massive risk at Spa for the one stop.

[frank glen]

Senna once said, if you no longer go for the gap, then you’re no longer a racer

[lilac rose]

What are you talking about? Max could literally take more risks comfortably. If he DNFed in Austin, it would've been fine for him. If Norris did that, it's over. That's an actual reason to not take risks.

[lilac rose]

That's a general statement not applicable for every single case. You're ignoring the nuance.

[frank glen]

I’m not ignoring the nuance, if you’re unwilling to take a risk to go against Verstappen what’s the point

[mossy monolith]

I’m excited to see ruthless Lando next year

I hope

[frank glen]

Yes some work some don’t but you have to try

[halcyon kraken]

Ruthless Charles would be even better to see

[magic orbit]

lando needs to realise he's a championship contender

[frank glen]

I think he needs to worry about how ruthless Oscar will be

[magic orbit]

he doesn't have to "play nice"

[crimson monolith]

i think he does

[frank glen]

Idk man was very salty in the last few races

[crimson monolith]

he just doesnt take enough risks

[lilac rose]

You evaluate the risk and reward. In Max's case taking the risk is of a more ideal magnitude.

[crimson monolith]

true

[magic orbit]

yeah but the swap in hungary

[mossy monolith]

That’s why he’s bottling starts. The pressure of that realization

[frank glen]

That’s why he’s now a 4 x time champion

[crimson monolith]

we need oscar villain era

[mossy monolith]

Max lives by the go big or go home mantra

[magic orbit]

every driver is entering his villian arc

[lilac rose]

Yeah. Because he knows when to take risk and when not to.

[mossy monolith]

And that’s kinda how you have to be

[frank glen]

True but also how he spoke to Lewis, comments about Max not being a real friend, how it was luck and not skill in how Max won in Brazil

[frank glen]

Since 2016

[magic orbit]

most of those things were spoken in adrealine rush and taken out of context

[lilac rose]

Bruh

Max said the same thing as Lando an interview last weekend

[tall storm]

Hamilton crazy that he will win the last race

😲

[frank glen]

Still doesn’t negate the saltiness

[tall storm]

Great farewall to Mercedes

[crimson monolith]

Lando needs to be ruthless and take more risks like Max

[frank glen]

Lando had a weird way of saying stuff without coming off mean

[tall storm]

[mossy monolith]

Lando is sort of an annoying person when he is pissed but I get it

[crimson monolith]

Max taking risks is the reason why he won the 2021 season

[frank glen]

I hope he does

[crimson monolith]

Lando needs to push like that

[knotty mist]

hoping for 2 more mercedes wins. 1 for George and 1 for Lewis to sign off the season and show the teams getting ready for a title tilt with George in 2025.

[mossy monolith]

Every driver takes risks. He takes the crazy ones

[frank glen]

Pitting for softs during the safety car 😭

[lilac rose]

I think we would see that next year.

[tall storm]

Can someone subscribe to me

[frank glen]

He took a gamble and shamelessly it played out

[mossy monolith]

Praying for a George championship 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[lilac rose]

No

[tall storm]

🫤🫤🫤

[mossy monolith]

No self promotion bubba

[magic orbit]

didn't have anything to lose

[frank glen]

George seems to be the only one who’s confident to go up against Max

[tall storm]

Russell will be a Top doh

Dog

[crimson monolith]

he did bruh the entire championship 😭😭

[mossy monolith]

Carlos but he’s stuck in a tractor

[frank glen]

Tbf if you had to battle Lewis as your teammate for 3 years that helps

[mossy monolith]

Facts

[magic orbit]

he was slower than the mercedes at that point, either try to go to soft or lose

[frank glen]

James Vowles is keeping that Argentine money if he hasn’t used it to fix the cars

[tall storm]

I hope Hamilton will be a World Champion in 2025

[crimson monolith]

me too mate me too

honestly whoever wins

its gonna be a very entertaining season

[magic orbit]

red bull downfall?

[frank glen]

Tbf, without Newey and after the Horner allegations and mass exodus , Redbull are in a much weaker state going into 2025 and the other teams who just now finally got used to the regs have caught up

[crimson monolith]

we need another season like 2012

[frank glen]

2010*

[lilac rose]

What if Redbull sorts itself out and Max runs away with the whole thing?

[tall storm]

Verstappen had luck to win the championship

[mossy monolith]

I love that we have a new season where we don’t know who’s gonna be the fastest… like at all

[crimson monolith]

ah yes

[magic orbit]

I am sorry? how?

[crimson monolith]

ehhh very unlikely

red bull is a mess rn

[tall storm]

I though Norris will be a World Champion

[lilac rose]

Would be funny with all the hype around the season

[magic orbit]

McLaren's speed was not expected at all

[crimson monolith]

i aint ready to hear dutch anthem after every race again 😭

2025 checo villain era

[frank glen]

Max built up a 52 point lead in the lead up to Miami and has won the WDC with a 65 point lead with 6 drivers winning twice in that timeframe

[mossy monolith]

True

[crimson monolith]

its gonna be the comeback of a century

[frank glen]

I hate saying it but Max’s likeabllity went up this year

[magic orbit]

nobody is ready for that

i would be more prepared for haas's domination

[frank glen]

He proved that it’s the driver and not the car to win a championship

[tall storm]

Perez will have a contract to Chinese f4

[crimson monolith]

nahhh bro

[tall storm]

Goofy ahh

[crimson monolith]

Perez will be the fastest driver on the grid

in 2025

[mossy monolith]

Imagine Audi takes a giant step forward and enters Formula A

[lilac rose]

True

[crimson monolith]

honestly though i really want to see a perez comeback

before he retires

[mossy monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-12518470091251537855

[crimson monolith]

since he has the red bull seat anyways

[tall storm]

What about Riccardo 😭

[mossy monolith]

He’s done

[magic orbit]

washed

[tall storm]

Red Bull team

[lilac rose]

Rics gone

[mossy monolith]

Cya Danny

[frank glen]

Honestly I feel bad for Bortotelo. First car is a car that’s slower than a tractor while your other rookies are in either midfield or winnings cars

[crimson monolith]

Ricciardo is Retiredo

[lilac rose]

We love you Danny we do

[magic orbit]

someone again tell me how's kimi in a mercedes while sainz is in a williams

[tall storm]

Why the hell does riccardo retired

[frank glen]

Take that back!

[tall storm]

Why not perez

[magic orbit]

I said what I said

[magic orbit]

money

[frank glen]

Toto is still angry that he let Max go so he’s trying to prevent history repeating twice

[crimson monolith]

he got sent to the feeder team first

before he was dropped

[frank glen]

Plus Williams is no longer taking Mercedes academy rookies

[tall storm]

Riccardo red Bull

[crimson monolith]

after singapore gp bc of unsatisfactory performance

[tall storm]

Dream is

Done

😭😭😭😭

[lilac rose]

Is watching F1 a sin?

I feel like it is.

[magic orbit]

liking the drivers is

[tall storm]

It was in 2021

[magic orbit]

i feel like kimi is gonna get destroyed

but still come up ahead of perez

[crimson monolith]

2021 was a pretty banger season

[mossy monolith]

Please no

[crimson monolith]

yeah i feel like he is too 😭😭

[lilac rose]

What if Kimi destroys George in his rookie year?

[buoyant trail]

Yeah kimis definitely gonna try too hard and end up crashing a couple times, he already showed that in monza

[magic orbit]

i highlt highlt doubt that

[tall storm]

2021 commentator was bad

[magic orbit]

George shows an umpeccable performance

[tall storm]

That baku

[buoyant trail]

If George is already outperforming Hamilton he’s gonna destroy a rookie

[tall storm]

I feel bad for Colapinto

Seat

[magic orbit]

the gap between bearman and bortoleto is 119.5 in f2 and bortoleto is still getting the slower car

[frank glen]

He somehow came at the right time and wrong time

[frank glen]

Thing this, F2 and F1 are very different. It’s all about being in the right time and place

[tall storm]

Bortoletos slow car is equal to maini in 2018 in f2 and France

[frank glen]

Bearman scored P7 in his debut, with a Ferrari at one of the hardest tracks

That alone outranks any F2 results

Plus he scored points in a Haas at Baku

[tall storm]

Brazil was rainy

[frank glen]

Not too mention, as a McLaren junior racer, he didn’t have that many options

All of the new rookies are the teams junior drivers

[mossy monolith]

That would also be sad but also very unlikely

[frank glen]

Alonso vs Hamilton 2007 repeat

[magic orbit]

let's hope he does good on the haas

and with ocon as his teammate, you have to feel bad for him

[frank glen]

I think Ocon will wise up

[magic orbit]

🤞

won't bet on it

[frank glen]

Because besides Monaco when was the last time he caused issues on the grid?

[magic orbit]

Maybe if he was outperformed by a rookie, the old Ocon would wake up

[frank glen]

Hot take

Bearman is what triggered the fear of rookies to die down and it led tit he demise of Kmag, Danny Ric, Bottas, Logan, and Zhou

Plus the 2026 regs changes

[azure isle]

Qatar.

[pseudo quail]

Those drivers weren’t improving much, the rookies could

[azure isle]

bottas is a solid driver I don’t know why he got dropped

Zhou is decent

[pseudo quail]

Not good enough

[frank glen]

23rd in a 20 driver competition

[azure isle]

sauber

[frank glen]

It’s not ideal but that Sauber is just soo bad

[pseudo quail]

Bortoleto was more promising atleast

[azure isle]

F2 needs to be more fair

Cant tell who’s going to be good in F1 and who’s not

[halcyon kraken]

He wouldn’t have been if sauber didn’t botch the pitstop in the first few races

[frank glen]

But Bottas could be back for GM/Cadlliac (Andretti)

The experienced F1 Seat is down to him, Danny Ric and Perez

[coarse obsidian]

I see Bottas going Merc, reserve driver. Danny Ric would be an option for Cadillac but why would they invest.