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it doesnt help that max is fighting against the literal tractor that is the RB20
or just watch leclerc come out of nowhere and snatches wdc and wcc
He would be much further ahead of lando if he just a used consistency to win instead of, Oh you're trying to overtake me and you're 50 pts behind me in the championship? Go into the wall, I'm forcing you
if he drove cleanly norris would have a title by now
so I get the defense but still
he drives really really aggressively
I'm saying he doesn't have to be as aggressive as he is in the situations he does
fair
i wouldnt say by now, i would say if max drove cleaner we would be in a 2021 situation
He's loses way more points but keeping inconsistent scoring
isn't this already a 2021 situation
its pretty close
he forced norris wide twice in 2 gps
doing anything to prevent points
still close racing for the gp
Hold up, just now rereading what I previously typed, golly what happened to my english
I'm a native speaker bro what is that
its 11 pm bro no worries
I could understand it
I think
i think maxs driving is just getting dirtier because he knows the car isnt good enough, im not saying like total domination like last year, but the RB20 is reeeaaaally bad
I meant to say he's lost many points because of his aggression this season. If he didn't treat ever situation like Abu Dhabi 2021, he would be further ahead than he is now
it's just the pressure is building up
really close and tight situation and he's doing anything he can to win
think jeddah 21 or something like that
another monday race for me
what
nday
the race is in monday for me
Aussie? Or new Zealand?
philipines?
I was expecting tuvalu lol
what time is the race
see I'm goated
1am
big ooff
combined population of 4 people
gonna sacrifice my sleep schedule just to be delusional 🔥
Exactly 
alr gn chat
I'd better go to bed too tbh, got school in the morning...ugh
the only thing im not getting from the race is that i dont have school
oh and kimi too right
robin is 7 i think?
or 8
seb’s daughter is alr 10, crazy
What pressure? he has a 47 point gap and is guaranteed to win provided he doesn't DNF in any of the races
yeah thats what i don't rlly understand
why is he driving erratically when he has no reason to
Because all it takes is a Q1 exit like Perez, another Australia incident or just the reality that Red Bull have fallen far behind on upgrades
And Ferrari can easily split Red Bull and McLaren depending on the circuit
Maybe just because he is extremely competitive and feels like putting up a decent place for the next couple races is not enough
Morning Team. Happy Halloween 🎃
And Tomorrow, It's Free Practice and Sprint Qualifying in Sao Paulo
Morning 😄
He’s not WDC yet, he’s still at risk from 3 other drivers to be beaten
yes, both Robin and Kimi's daughter were around when he retired in 2021
U still wake aswell lol
I think I been awake for 24/26 hours lol
Mercedes have only 2 Floors right now since they decide to stop bring New Upgrade and Parts
Hoping they can still hold on with it until Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
That's where Mercedes will begin Lewis Hamilton Final Race before his moving to Ferrari
Good morning everyone (it totally isn’t 1:00 in the morning and I’m totally not unable to sleep)
dont forget that lando might not win the next 4 either
so realistically, verstappen has a >90% chance of wdc
and has no reason to take huge risks
unlike lando
Your correct
However F1 is a sport of fine margins
Even Max knows it will just take one DNF and a Norris win to swing those odds right back to Norris’s favour
yeah but norris might dnf too
Verstappen doesn’t know that
All he can do is whatever it takes to maximise his own chances
at one
and its an outside chance
Technically Norris, Leclerc AND Piastri have a chance to win
technically technically
realistically
its lando
and lando doesn't have much of a chance either
True
thens hes increasing his risk of not normal things happening
But it’s not absolute zero
he increases the risk of dnfing too by driving the way he does
And championships have been decided by one point before
this isn't a title fight
the only way lando DNF's is if someone hits him or if Mclaren makes a miracle massive fuck up with the car (the latter of which wont happen)
as much as we'd all like it to be
It’s 90% Verstappen’s title, it’s currently NOT 100%
And until the day it’s 100%
Stop saying it’s Max’s
i think its really just getting pushed as a title fight because max isnt insanley far in the lead lik last year (mostly because the RB20 is a tractor)
it's enough in his advantage that what he really should be doing is putting in clean races
like he was doing for most of this year so far
getting pushed as a title fight because fans are desperate after last year
It’s pushed as a title fight because there is still a real chance of winning and drivers have closed the gap
Well not real anymore
mmm idk... Lando would have to obliterate the previous record for most points overturned to win it and I just don't see that happening
i like max, and i only got really into the sport early into this season but i can imagine how depressing it was for non redbull fans
But unlike last year where Max left Qatar as the WDC champion (Or WCC) this year he might have to secure it in AD
I don’t see it either
Not after Austin
And certainly not after Mexico with Ferrari
i agree, i mean lando has to fight against both ferraris and max (especially the ferraris)
the only thing funnier than norris' title chances are the people saying leclerc has a chance
did anyone see ferrari coming into this last chunk of the season so hot
Verstappen has to fight against ferrari considering rb’s pace
Mclaren will definitely be the car to beat atleast in brazil
Qatar i think ferrari will be 3rd fastest
RB's pace is absolute shit, the RB20 is a tractor and they only have one competent driver that is trying to make it work
A lot of people say Ferrari for Brazil but McLaren performed better last year
Vegas should be Ferrari
a tractor that is still able to bag top 5's and podiums 
isnt leclerc cracked at brazil though
Qatar depends a lot on the kerbs as well
does last years perf really apply much though
no
McLaren is genuinely very dominant around high dwf circuits ( holland and singapore)
It gives predictions
a tractor for a front runner car
When no major staff changes have happened
Mexico last year was one of Red Bull's best races and this year it is one of their worst
2019 - racing incident with seb
2022- ferrari decided to stop being a serious team and norris decided to not take the corner(asshole)
2023- sf-23 decided to take a day off
but what has all happened in the RB world since last year
a tractor that has never once finished a race below p6 this year in the hands of Max
Not much that would really affect this years car
you get what i mean though, front runner car, shit for redbull but max makes it work, checo cant seem to finish high than p9
yeah but thats because checo sucks ass rn
Max making the difference
he really does
Red Bull have had staff changes though
my 2 cents on the redbull driver situation is to fire checo then put yuki or liam into checo's seat and then bring back daniel because fuck it all
hard to tell when checo is bottom of the barrel
but I don't think those staff changes have affected them that much
remind me of what happend in baku
The car issues stem from upgrades that didn't quite go to plan early last year, and since the departure of other team members, nothing, at least on the surface has changed within the team operationally
Slower than perez but got lucky in the end due to sainz-per collision
still so funny how perez just decided to be good in baku
helmut has gone literally crazy , the horner situation, if we talk about the whole RB family the very poor handling of daniel
yeah but the team for whatever reason did setup changes on max's car ahead of quali that completely screwed with the balance iirc
and then checo blaming carlos for the crash
what was poor about the handling of daniel leaving
he did his last race, got a guard of honor by a dozen team members, got to say his goodbyes to everyone, and then got announced to leave once all the (im assuming) contract stuff got sorted
they fired him right before his favourite race of the year where he was supposed to get keys to the city of austin
shouldn't have performed bad then?
i get that daniel had his ups and downs but at the very least they could have waited until after austin
Could have, I don't really see a point though
fair
You do realise lawson needs time right?
i do
lawson would've been fine anyway, guy can get up to speed almost immediately
liam has already proved himself worthy of the VCARB seat and based on how he performs next season he could prove himself worthy of the RB seat
its fineeee we can do it rightttt
Then you cannot really expect him to be at his best then
And considering driver change during the middle of triple header would’ve been a disaster
Seb keeps his life private right
it could have been a disaster it could have worked fine, we will never know
We don’t see their children often
seb no, we see penelope a lot if you consider her kind of maxs child, i cant say anything about the other drivers
checo has 4 children kinda crazy
penelope does see max as her father tho right
4 kids is 1.2 seconds pace loss
Wait isn’t she kvyat’s daughter?
Yes.
i dont know, in my opinion children are unable to control how they show how they feel about a person and p has always seemed to be really happy around max
so thats where his pace went
she is
nico huuuuuuuuuuulkenberg has one child yet still rapid
yeah but in his case its only 3 tenths
Feeling bad for kvyat honestly
poor guy
would’ve gotten a podium
shucks
he made godmoves in 2016 china
fr
My goat🐐🐐
“You came in like a torpedo”
i think he is a rapid driver w a lot of potential
sad he got banned just bc of his flag
i can see why he was replaced with max, when you have a kid with that much talent you have to pick someone to get rid of
ye true its just max
he wasnt banne
what is kyvat doing now?
the FIA never banned any russian drivers
he has the potential best driver ever in F1
def the most potential ever
Mazepin?
alr argued to be the GOAT at 27
Mazepin wasn't banned from F1
he was just shit
He had sanctions however, that made him unable to compete in any of Europe, though
But that wasn't due to being Russian
That was due to his father being an Oligarch
Motorsport still I think
makes sense
Ohh i was never really interested in his controversy anyways
Agree
Only one man should get punished from all that
hm?
I speak for all f1 fans when i say we want hulkenburg victory in brazil and ferrari wcc
I still dont know how he put that williams on pole in 2010 brazil🙂↔️
i cant believe hulk still doesnt have a single podium
pretty simply
just went a second faster than sebastian vettel
Crazy how mag has and hulk doesn’t
and magnussen got his on debut
Yep
maybe this year is the year
Imagine
#trustinhulk
Audi might be his best shout in 2-3 years
who’s gonna win in brazil in your opinion guys?
if max and lando continue to have close battles, the ferraris could jump them again ngl
Why tf am i so unlucky
Really hurt me mentally man
I turned the tv off as soon as i saw that incident
Kmag
I've been praying since mexico
Pole to win
Grand slam
inchident*
2021 monaco was such a moment
I hope both sides of your pillow are warm
massa
Damn the gp this weekend actually isnt at midnight for me i can watch it
Im happy as long as its not norris
same tbh. although it’s likely since it’s mclaren’s favorite
charles
charles charles leclerc
charles
charles charles leclerc
i hope he does
a bit unfortunate at mexico
couldve been 2nd
on the other hand luckily he could save the car
16 points is better than no points, my heart was on my mouth
he hasnt crashed in 5 races to be fair
he's the goat for a reason💯🔥
Hardest decision,
Sargent or goatifi
Well use “the true size of” it’s more realistic since the maps changes countries sizes
So it shows the real size of it
Nvm it was basically the same lol
Latifi no hesitation
guys when are the media day interveiws?
Today
oh i thought they were tmrw thanks for clearing it up!
Ahem
Why do people still think Logan was good at all. Goatifi is goat for a reason.
Everyone is a ferrari fan even if you go to the mercedes guys and they say oh yeah mercedes is the greatest brand in the world they are ferrari fans
You mean my baby fred?
Their road cars are not overly reliable at times
I don’t like their policy of picking their customers (Despite knowing why they do it)
In the past they were the pinnacle of elitism
I think its appropriate considering their history, passion and the amount of love they put in their cars
Any modification done must be approved my Ferrari right
Correct, and must have Ferrari parts
Otherwise you’re out of the club for life
Ask Justin Bieber (Although I honestly don’t blame Ferrari for that one
)
The purrari
is Max a solid qualifier
@fossil goblet
any celebs that are actual f1 fans?
Gordon Ramsey is a huge one
Justin Drew Bieber mentioned
Yass tripletttt
He's there at nearly all the us races yea
He was at Austin and Miami this year
any reserve drivers for fp1 tmr?
There won’t be anymore until Abu Dhabi
BRASIL SIL SIL SIL
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
🏎AYYYYYRTON SENNA É DO BRASIIIILLL
PAM PAM PAAAAM
PAM PAM PAAAAM
Max Verstappen will have 5 Grid Penalty for changing his Engine
It's gonna be a Rainy Sao Paulo Later
wait did he change his engine
he is? red bull seriously can't catch a break
where did you see this
max can't stop with those penaltys 🔥
Just earlier ago
nah bro
its good he changes engine
cuz look
if norris has a lead
it doesnt matter of the penalty
hell change engine
and then he'll full push last 2 races
cuz its high speed circuits
so then norris aint gonna win the championship
He'll probably gonna targeting for 5th
norris not gonna win wdc
the gap is too big imo
20 Points sometimes is for 1st Place
he only needs a 47 point gain compared to max to close in on max
yeah but max needs some horrible races to lose the wdc
its pretty tough
maybe they will have the same amount of points in the last race
but I can't imagine norris winning
knowing the track record of red bull recently anything could happen
this the same season where he won his first race bruh
i still dont expect lando to be the WDC
i can
but at the same time we didn't fucking expect for ferrari to come back so strongly
its pretty possible
they won austin with 0 upgrades
exactly, and almost secured a 1-2 in mexico
ferrar is the breaking point of mclarens wdc
honestly i hope norris winning the wdc and mclaren winning the wcc but i think the gap in the wdc is too big and ferrari is coming dangerously close in the wcc
but he can get upto 120 points in the next 4 races
no
tf u meani ts too big
its only 47
one bag's either in verstappen's or norris' hands, one bag's either in ferrari's or mclaren's
and the maximum points u can get in the next 4 gps is 120
at the very least it's obvious things will get exciting
and theres also sprints
but even when max has decent races then norris won't win
look
is the max grid penalty confirmed? helmut said he’ll be taking a new ICE
Yes he is
what’s this?
i made a simulation on excel
for max and norris
basically
if norris wins all 4 gps
and max comes p4 in all 4
norris will win the wdc
its unlikely
but its possible
sprints?
working on those
We should see Tomorrow how Max perform in Sprint Qualifying and Practice
that’s not extremely unlikely though in all fairness
exactly
i don't think that norris wins every race. even with the rocketship he has, leclerc, oscar, sainz and max all have the chance winning aswell because all of them are in good form. maybe norris wins 2 races plus 1 of the 2 sprints, but i don't think he will get more than that
like it’s gonna need some luck
its tough to say
if they both finish p2 and p6 in every race and sprint, norris wins the championship by 1 point
more realistic maybe
doesn’t require norris to win every race but redbull need to drop off slightly
or to have some bad luck
and if Max has mercy on Lando
not happening
it will be very close in abu dhabi, i can't imagine norris catching up on max before that
precisely 💀
that wont happen thoug
i reckon max crashes lando out and leclerc takes the championship 😂😂😂
theyll pickup for a fact
what needs to happen for leclerc to win the wdc?
he needs like
Win like hell
It's a single component
thats really unlikely
does do a lot however
and they’ll push that engine like mad
its pretty important tho
highest modes all weekend
exactly
and knowing that
last 2 races are high speed
its a lot of impact
Max not gonna do a '21 Hamilton
it’s likely that max takes the championship
he has a considerable lead so he has more leeway to risk things with lando, lando doesn’t have that and needs to finish every race
it's the most likely thing to happen ig
one dnf from lando and his chance is over
Max gonna do some Schumacher type shit
ferrari will definitely be trying to capitalise off of this fight
he’s already started doing that
Already are
they surely want that wcc so bad rn 😭
😈
max disqualification would be crazy
😂😂
pure cinema
plot twist: max is trying to make leclerc world champion
He felt bad after 2022
the day max equals vettel’s 4 wdc’s i’ll be devastated
fr
L take
vettel was battling against more competetiv opponents imo
like prime hamilton and alonso
Vettel lost to Hamilton
i see max just kinda being a little replica of vettel though. wins 4 championships with red bull and never wins one again, because let’s be honest if he has wheel to wheel competition like he has now, he won’t win a championship again
Then Verstappen beat the same prime hamilton
while he was in ferrari, not while he was in redbull
different cars
Well his time in ferrari wasn’t good enough either
I disagree
max will leave redbull and join ferrari 2025 confirmed?? 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Yes but both vettel and max had good cars while battling hamilton
Max went toe to toe with Lewis and won
Vettel had the 2017-2018 ferrari
2016, 2017 and 2018 were decent seasons
Didn’t win while Verstappen’s taken the championship cars and won
And prior to that the redbull didn’t really compare that closely with the mercs
this is the fully completed simulation
this will not happen
p2 and p6 every race is more realistic
nah i js put lando to win the maximum number of points just to make sure it works
and 120 is the total
but u can give me some simulation and i can put it in
P2 and P3 is equally more realistic also lol
for all of them?
that won’t win him the championship though
lol
wait
I know
Im just saying it’s more likely for Lando to get P2 and Max to get P3 than Lando win and Max get P6 every race
I dont see Lando winning as much as I have been rooting for him
But he’s just not as consistent yet as max
plot twist, max crumbles under pressure, crashes in qatar while lando wins (i think it’s a good track for mclaren), and then lando has only like 12 points to make up in 2 races
wait it’s vegas before qatar
idk
either way
max crashing out would be crazy
but wouldn’t happen
Anything could happen!
bottas could win
Real
nah hülkenberg
fun fact
haas is the only team going into brazil now with both drivers having had a pole position there
damn hulk too
haas have been cooking lately
i think it would be a fun team to cheer on
ahh alright
he somehow still fumbled a podium 😭😭
2010
ohh thanks
He needs 80ish points out of 143
it is now impossible for sainz to win the championship
he is 3 points short
of being able to
No he's out
what?
hilarious
Lol
how is that a dsq
The teams are reporting him I think, he shouldn’t have drove that dirty
Mhm
very real document
He deserves a dsq
the description bro 😭
Dsq and a 100 place grid penalty
Lol
Dsq for 10 seasons
max doesn't care anyway
f1 is a sidequest for him
hes busy playing iracing
He got me 😂
okay who’s wining?
Landoe
Lando or Lewis
99% faith 1% chance 🥱
Maybe Charles
is it mathematically possible for charles to snatch 2nd place title ?
i mean if Ferrari doesn’t twat around hahahaha
smokin some hopium
The only way Lando hate will be justified is if he wins Brazil and sings Thick of it on the radio
Gap between lando and max after miami: 51 points
gap between lando and max after mexico: 47 points
The progress is immense clearly
4 whole points!
So Brazil is gonna be a wet race possibly....
he really in the thick of it
Qualifying will be Wet too
That's when we saw Kevin Magnussen made his Pole Debut in 2022
and then he got his wife pregnant that same night!
😳
Sorry, What?
ohhh
Kevin's child was born 9 months after his pole debut
manifesting that the other components don't last 🙏
So the allegaaations are he got the creampie after that
Brazil is defo the best place to take it
5 places is probably not going to do much with verstappen's current pace
yes but consider wet race
maybe norris will have a peaceful race this time
actually yk what he'll bottle the start
NOOOO
ok one absolutely wackass delulu prediction for the race go
My prediction: Alonso top 5
Pretty sure One Day, Laura Magnussen has a Dream to become Race Driver like her Father
i dont like remembering this fact.
Leclerc
Russell
Verstappen
Hamilton
Sainz
😳
Ohhh dangerous
Bro made a prediction before the pre weekend warm up damn
Bottas had 101 races with Merc
He made Q3 for all 101 of them
Lando win max out of the points
the streets will never forget bottas in mercedes
Hey bro
WHOEVER MADE THIS DESERVES A RAISE 😂
Other way around
That description tho 😂
hmmm
😮 😂 🥰
🔽 5 PLACE PENALTY
** 1 Max VERSTAPPEN**
FITTING NEW ICE OUTSIDE OF ALLOCATED AMOUNT
is this for the sprint or for the sunday race?
Why only 5?
Not me
I think main race
10 places for first infringement on a part, 5 places for every part after
This his second for the ICE. He took 10 places in Belgium. Now he's taking 5 in Brazil.
Wait what!!! Only 5 after that? Shoot why don't more teams do that. That's a bargain haha
Because they tend not to need more than 1 component in one category outside of allocation
Most drivers can't be counted on to make up 5 places every race, they'd rather tank one
That too
Yeah, that too lol
Max came back to P6 after 20 seconds of penalties WITH A MALFUNCTIONING ENGINE
Still losing 5-10 points to have a fresh engine to not risk losing more later seems like a good trade off
Exactly
What's the over under for Max penalties in Brazil I wonder
Brazil is a fast track. Max loves Brazil.
I already know what I'm commentating on Sunday...
"And it's a 10 second penalty say the stewards for coming within 1 second of Norris"
Tim Mayer was the steward in Mexico who gave the penalties. He's the son of McLaren co-founder Teddy Mayer.
He tried getting a steward thrown off in 2021 for owning a Honda dealership.
FIA don't even hide their bias
I thought they jointly decided on penalties
Everyone loves Brazil
Frfr
sir erm i think the penalties for fair
seems like a bias max fan
@stiff venture, @dawn zealot and I all had a perfectly civil, intelligent conversation and then you came along and accused me of bias.
Disappear again. It was peaceful without accusations.
Me? What did I say?
I was saying how me you and Neon were having a conversation that was civil and intelligent before Swiss came along with the accusations
Oh I see
Forgot a comma mb
with all due respect you have just called stewards biased for applying the standard penalty
Not on turn 4. It should’ve been 5, if even at all once they didn’t give it in Austin
But whatever, Max knew he had it coming. He will do whatever to win WDC
no thats standard 10s with no mitigating circumstances (which there weren’t)
In the same race you’ve seen drivers do the same on turn 4 with no penalty. Including Checo
5s would’ve been fair in my opinion. But I’m only speaking about turn 4
Well, I think everyone agrees that was a penalty, but the FIA probably took a more lenient view on it due to Checo getting damage and him also being the overtaking car
Checo punished himself basically
Unless you’re on about Perez-Stroll
In which case, again, overtaking car and ahead at apex
It wasn’t with stroll, was with Liam, which yes he did get himself penalized but still rules are rules. I do understand that they’ve done it to Max because of his reckless driving on those early laps.
Let’s just hope that doesn’t happen again
The official Mercedes F1 instagram account misspelled brazil💀
No that’s right
It’s pronounced that in Portuguese and Brazilian
Just google it lol
In Portuguese and Spanish they tend to write it as Brasil
Anyway wasn’t there supposed to be a pre weekend livestream at 4:30 est
I swear I saw it on the schedule and now it’s gone
guys do we think this is a good line
both brazil and brasil work
thats how it is written in brazillian portuguese!!
pole position with this line?
mhm just hit an few barriers then he'll get pole
thoughts that keep u up at night:
checo needs to go
Ohhh sick mb
contract until end of 2024 now i guess
Fr💀
but fr lawson won that battle tbh and he deserves the seat
its ok!! u didnt do anything wrong 
hes happy and i know that lol
r u a redbull fan?
eh
or a verstappen fan
just not a lando norris fan
Lmao
do u think this line is getting pole?
i prefer norris to vestappen but i dont like norris
hasn't hamilton been historically really good at this track
hoping for some magic this weekend
2021 was good
2021 was insane
mhm
come on people hes in the w15
:(
literally a rocketship
also I cannot get this random alpine role away
no idea how it got there, and I can't get it off
alpine make better clothes than cars
probs a verstappen win unless he tries to shove norris again in which case somehow colapinto wins?????
👀
huh
the pic on the right
silverstone 2021
2021 silverstone
^
what happened there again
lap 1 inchident
hamilton and verstappen?
yes
verstappen lunged hamilton and hamilton didnt back out
was it the front left tyre
he was right to show some aggression because verstappens driving that year was ruthless and hamilton was too compliant it just went badly
I'd argue that both were at fault, but more on lewis since he was gonig significantly faster into that corner than he was in quali
yeah it was lewis’ fault
Omg WOW 🤩
not like max was gonna make it anyway
but he was on the outside, not with a car on his outside
however it wasn’t some terrible crime and a 10s penalty was fair
i agree
I'd say the 10s was fair enough
racing incident
with bad consequences lmao
nah lewis was behind
It really was huh
verstappen was forcing norris off and 20s was in line with the stupid penalties in austin
the penalties in austin were within rules but still bullshit
mexico was pretty obvious lmao
norris shouldve got 1 idk about verstappen
bro idek what rb thought when they tried to steal fastest lap
and mexico was crazyyy
real
bro went last
a saving grace got the fastest lap at his home race
because of that
how stupid
zhou had a better home race than checo
checo << lawson
which is wild that zhou home race >>> checo
Terrible crime? My god he suffered a 51g crash
If it was a terrible crime it wouldn’t have been a 10s penalty what are you on about
The 10s penalty was a joke and they knew it
The whole way penalty are applied is a joke because with a dominant car it means nothing
it was a small error, not a deliberate crash attempt
literally every other crash like that is a 10s penalty
I never commented anything on penalty?
well yeah but refer to the first bit then
I am kind of curious if they could've given a harsher penalty by the book
Because from what I understand, DT's and stop go's have been nonexistent for ages
stop gos and drive throughs are reserved for like actually dangerous stuff
eg entering the pits when its closed
They should be used for severe infractions while racing
But in 2021, was it possible
what did they do to my man Piastri’s helmet omg 😭
It's been a long time since I've seen them used
If they can’t then the rules should be changed because it’s not ok to send someone into a wall, be judged majoritarily at fault for the accident and then just get your car fixed during the resulting red flag period while they get checked out at the hospital and go on to win the race because it’s a rocket ship and you just yeeted your main adversary off track anyway
Like that’s mad
that is fair because lewis’ intention wasn’t to do so
It’s not whether it was his intention or not
if you penalise based on outcome then the sport dies
well it is because thats how you have to do racing
You really think what happened in silverstone 21 after the red flag was racing?
When Lewis threw max into the wall?
if you start penalising people with stop gos and drive throughs for minor mistakes when wheel to wheel then it turns into a procession
Although the stewards like to say they don't penalize based on the outcome, there is many circumstances where this is not the case
well yeah but those are the outliers and the ones that are wrong
penalties that have a sliding scale for severity will always need to have the outcome factored in
its how lewis got 10s instead of 5, since back then the standard penalty was 5s
First of all I think if you’re at fault for an accident that resulted in a DNF you shouldn’t be able to fix your car during the red flag
🤷♀️
The other 5s were for speeding
I think the easiest solution is to just not allow teams to touch the cars at all during a red flag
This is an open door to so much bullshit
Or that
but if you change it then its the open door to even more bs
But I imagine the teams wouldn't like that
they'd probably want to reserve the right to make some sort of repairs
The teams aren’t supposed to rule the sport so who cares what they like 
fuck i wish i remembered the race because on of the red bulls had gotten speed tape put on this huge hole in the floor as a repair during red flag
Especially now with Briatore back we need to make this shit airtight lmao
you shouldn’t have your entire race ruined because an accident caused a red flag, that would get extremely dangerous and just probably lead to safety car/red flag politics rather than finding the most appropriate solution
Negative ghost rider. They would have had to pit to repair if it was a safety car. If they repair they start from pit lane.
If you caused the red flag then you should, if you didn’t why would your race be ruined
but then you’re being penalised twice
And if you think we don’t already have way too much politics in F1 you haven’t been looking
Because then you start getting into debates on who caused it.
leave that to the stewards
There’s always a debate on who caused it
well we don’t need more politics especially regarding safety
No? If you’re not allowed to fix your car that’s the penalty
what so its just basically disqualification
Except as I said that’s an open door to so much shenanigans
I mean if checo can win from p20 then anyone can.
It’s simple parc fermé rules?
Wreck your car in quali, change components, get penalised
Wreck your car during the race, DNF
what so no one should be allowed to repair the cars at all?
why should you get an advantage for crashing hard enough to cause a red flag?
Do you want that car to become a safety hazard or what?
The team can retire the car
if you're not safe enough to continue then you end up withdrawing 🤷
Exactly
This isn't wec where a car can go into the garage for a few mins then come back out to win the race haha
i don’t think the rules on unsafe conditions are ever properly followed
… that’s not a reason to start relaxing on others lmao
this isn’t relaxing on others though it’s introducing a new rule that would heighten the issues with the unsafe conditions rule
No it really wouldn’t, I promise you even the teams won’t send a damaged car out lmao not with the cost cap and all
if it was for like 2 laps and that car was running in the points i think they would
Hopefully George Russel wins
Oh fuck off
He literally immediately apologized for fuck sake.
The FIA investigates such a stupid bullshit rather than doing their actual job and releasing the final race classification document from Mexico.
Hehe, now I can always use that against them.
Literally jobless behaviour
They have to penalize him or people will be calling bullshit on Max's. Well, moreso than people already are.
Dunno if the FIA want to risk it when 80% of the fandom already thinks they show favoritism one way or the other.
It's been multiple days to review
This is something that takes no more than 10 minutes to deal with
You would think
The FIA don't think very much tho, they have a combined 1 brain cell. That's why it's taking so long
Well they do have to be very careful after all. They can't let it seem like they're just a bunch of rappers up there.
Pearl clutch
MBS needs to leave
okay what is happening why and how are the franco rumours getting this crazy
ik it's just chaotic which is what i love about the sport
Because Horner is letting them, doesn't mean anything will actually happen, it won't
yea the red bull camp loves stirring stuff up
...
They sure think like such
Vegas is not a sprint weekend right
Sao Paulo
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Funny thing is Charles unwillingly has put the FIA into a tough spot
Either the FIA continues this outrageous shtick and puts him under the same outcome as Max
Or they silently drop it, admitting they were stupid in the process, giving a prerty solid base for Max to just go out and say that the FIA is out to get him
It’s not, it’s a street circuit
Sprints are not always held on non street tracks
Miami had a sprint weekend
For exaple
Miami isn’t a street track?
Damn ic
wtf ew
the FIA does indeed need to fuck off, literally nobody who watches this sport clutches their pearls when they hear the drivers swear, if anything the fans swear more aggresively then the drivers
no, but for TV purposes it's preferable people don't swear or it is at least bleeped out
its been a rule for forever now
just blame MBS for starting the enforcement on it again out of nowhere with no announcement
that is fair, its just dumb to hand a driver community service for saying "the car is fucked"
It's funnier when you realize that the press conferences are not even livestreamed, so that means they can just edit out or bleep when a driver swears
literally takes less than 15 seconds to edit that in
is Herbert the steward for Brazil
He is one of the 5 yes
oh no its gg for max
he could just follow the rules and then wont be penalized
i agree the driving was a bit reckless in mexico
a
b
i wanna see fairplay
FIA press conference with Lewis, Colopinto, and Stroll... No one asked Stroll a question 😭😂
I forgot he was there
C
Sure he’s a bad driver but I feel bad for the guy being overhated
Sure he does not deserve the seat but
Some of the banters are a bit farfetched
I think that's the main reason. Most believe others should have that seat but his dad owns the team. So nothing you can do.
True. Best for him is joining the WEC project and let a deserving driver join Alonso in the most competitive motorsports competition
Sao Paulo
F1: FP1 (Brazilian Grand Prix)
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One can dream!
2026 hopefully 🙏🏻 But yeah it’s unlikely
danny ric should go to le mans and indycar
bro's only redemption arc is triple crown
i would like to see him in other things
Outside of motorsports
ok
oh yeah all good
I mean Ric isn't that old for other motorsports
he has time to play around where he wants
hmm i think he’d like nascar
but im not sure if he still has the drive
it'd be interesting to see
im not sure if he even wants to continue racing
i think his last stint with alphatauri / VCARB took a toll on him
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I’d doubt he gets more than a sub in at a road course
He’s got at least 30 more years of racing left in him
there’s some old man who still drives LMP2 at 68
he's a bronze isn't he
idk the name but ik there's some really old bronze drivers
pro drivers don't go that far as far as I know
so indy or le mans then?
he can help bring the popularity of it up
yeah if he went to other series it would definitely be a good thing for exposure
whether he'd be competitive is a different story but who knows
racing in ovals idk if its his strength
Indy also does a lot of road courses
but yeah completely different style of driving, car, etc
those like ericsson or montoya still did well in indy
even alonso’s stint wasn’t bad
alonso didnt do great
his first Indy run was alright and then he fell off
point is it's hard to tell how skill in one discipline extends to another
ericcson did well but grosjean did worse for example
yeah true. we got many drivers in F1 performed poorly yet did well in WEC for example
or we got kubica who excelled in both, but WEC stood oit
yep i saw his races, truly underrated driver
extremely mixed feelings about kubica
he still has the pace but hes made some absolutely boneheaded moves
They could if they wanted to in theory
Though after 50 you can be at max gold license
I’m loving all these news reports saying Lawson made his Grand Prix debut in Austin, it’s like he never raced and beat Tsunoda last year or knocked out Verstappen in Q2 Singapore
really?
ah yeah you're right
that's interesting
if you make it to 55 you're downgraded further to silver
wait didn't he debut in 2022 or 2023
max P1 in quali
trust
it’s gonna rain
and i think max is better than norris on wets
the sky is blue
is it not raining in sao paulo
you said a fact and I just said a fact also
“The sky is blue” is a fact and verstappen is better than Norris on wets is a fact also
Morning Team! Happy November
It's Practice Time in Sao Paulo
Tomorrow is gonna be very Wet until Sunday there
right now?
Yes, It's Practice Day alongside the Sprint Qualifying
not rn js today
Max is better than everyone on wets.
Debuted last year at Zandvoort in a callup
agreed
🙄🙄🙄didn't u hear the redbull gonna struggle this weekend
does anyone know if we’re gonna be able to watch sennas car show?
I didn't actually, good to hear that lol
hamilton is better
A few years back, sure. But not currently
hasn't really had the car to do that
Guys is there any chance kmag could stay on the grid next year?
there’s still the sauber seat but unlikely
i’m sorry but it doesnt seem likely :(
He did dat in spa🥲
True
max is p6 at best
for brazil yes probably
I hope, and lando p1 🤞🏻
probably tbh considering how this track favors mclaren
😭
I am just worried McLaren might mess up the strategy again like they always do when it rains 😦
But a P1-P6 would a 17 pts swing if I am not wrong, that would be huge for the championship
Plus a few pts in the sprint aswell
but Max I think will be P4 at least if he doesn’t do reckless driving
but it’s max
can’t guarantee
Lol fr 🤣
Yup, realistically, McLaren and ferrari together can keep max at p4-p5 at best in every race. If lando wins all 4 races, that would be more than enough for him to win wdc, but ofc Lando HAS to win all the races, and Oscar has to start performing again.
In netherlands Lando had a gap of about .2 or .3 (i forgot) to Max in qualifying. He is good at fast/short tracks on paper
yeah expect lando to win in qatar and sao paulo i think
abu dhabi and vegas up for grabs
