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You've already said that de Vries wouldn't have improved so we can count that as a win for Yuki, even if he was dropped mid season so didn't have a full season to be measured
yea cos of his age
Well he still been able to beat his teammates head to head which proves he deserves a sit alongside Max
28 and starting f1
yea when they come into the season half way š
Whether Yuki beats Lawson remains to be seen, it's hard to tell so far
you cant go off of half a season or less
Yeah he has especially his radio message he no longer swears
Well that's the only way to judge them, F1 isn't always fair, you have to prove yourself in the time you have, you don't always get a full season (especially if you drive for a Red Bull owned team)
He's definitely calmed down in that sense
I think he just belong to the Mercedes family
nah
de vries doesnt belong in f1
same with stroll and checo
maybe de vries can do sum in indy
He has proven enough to get a sit alongside Max idk who deserves it better then him, i think Redbull will not give him a sit because Honda is leaving, if only AMR will replace Stroll with yuki that will be better especially with 2026 reg
well redbull have said theyll back him when they go ford powered
Yh that's where I wish Yuki would go
They use is that as a leverage for him to stay at the sister team while Perez is just shitt
Donāt u remember Monza 22 š± he scored 2 pts after just one session pf practice
I can see why they want to sign Lawson but if they really want to chuck someone in from Vegas onwards Yuki is surely the only option (and if they don't then he'll surely try to leave the team)
If i was yuki i will move to AMR that will be better than been a no.2 driver
Tbf that was also a strong track for Williams at the time
I'd say he actually did alright in 2022
yuki would fold under pressure of bringing back wcc
He needs to, Honda should get him to AMR before 2026
AMR want to look for bigger names, now they have Newey, unfortunately for Yuki
He may make it though
Your evidence for this? Why wouldn't Lawson?
but its his choice if he wants to stay honda powered or not
yea lawson would too
I mean if he stayed at Williams with him been with Mercedes all along he will be prove something better than what he did in Alpha tauri
So who would you put in the RBR?
right now? i would go daniel and if he doesnt do better than checo did, for 2025 put whoever did better in last few races at vcarb there
Red Bull aren't seriously backing him if they're trying to hurry Lawson into Perez's seat, they clearly don't have confidence for 2026 they don't even have it now
Itās too late, they should have swap the drivers after summer break maybe their WCC will have survived
You're joking. What has Daniel done to prove that he's worthy of such a thing, since his return? He's been outpeformed consistently by Yuki.
F1 will be very interesting from 2025 onwards
hes the only one who could handle that kind of pressure
in the redbull family that is
What makes you think Yuki or Liam can't?
theyve never been in that situation
Yes, but he just doesn't have the pace any more.
That should have happened before the summer break, they had the chance to do that
vcarb as a team was inconsistent
yup
You're never going to find out if you don't try...
its what i was saying from summer break
yea but its a terrible decision near the end of the season to bring in someone who has never been in that situation
I feel like Ric is more of a front row driver than mid thatās why he sucks in a mid field car
thinking strategically its best to have someone who has been in the situation redbull is in
yes.
that is correct
He did alright in the renault
renault id say is the only time he performed in mid field
but they were top of mid field
Was the 4th fastest car in 2020 Ocon was just shit
Some races faster then BWT
They know it, they should have given him a chance this year alongside Max
mhm
Racing point
redbull are just moronic and are only thinking about the money
tracing point
the fact that checo beat the w11 in sakhir 2020 is insane
his fall off needs to be studied
then again, george got 2 punctures AND bottas tyres so
his win was stolen from him by the team and tyres
So...
a) Leave in a driver who's peforming poorly, and has previously peformed well in high pressure situations due to experience
b) Bring in a driver who was DROPPED for peforming poorly, and has previously peformed well in high pressure situations due to experience (before you ask: 2020, 2021, 2022 seasons and many other times before)
c) Bring in a young driver who has peformed well recently, who hasn't been judged under pressure yet but has a good chance of doing well
I canāt believe they prioritize driverās champ on top constructors
mhm
Wouldn't say a move this late in the season is a good idea for RBR though.
neither can i
Did u watched the race live?
we arent saying
nah, i watched the highlights of that
it was when i was getting into f1 and didnt know what it was on
Ik I was just making my opinion known
found out in 2021 it was on foxtel
I now understand why u said he beat the w11 š
at summer break was the optimal time to change shito
yea lmao
i should watch that race tho.
I would say that finding a driver for RBR, to race alongside Max is immensely difficult. They need to peform under huge pressure
was very intense from just the highlights
hence why daniel is the best pick
hes also been maxs teammate before, they have a dynamic
or was the best pick
What a dynamic
bruh
Beat me to it
The problem is RBR wonāt let their drivers be like ferrari drivers, let them race instead they force them to be no.2 to max which will destroy their confidence
Ahem
šš
which letting them fight imo is a dumb decision
exactly, might also be partly because max is such a legendary driver though
with mclaren, they should 100% be prioritising lando, they should have been since summer break or atleast hungary onwards
wait was hungary before summer break or after
i forgor
Didn't Ricciardo leave the team because he knew he was being beaten by Max (as well as salary trouble)
Before iirc
They made him, if only Ric didnāt leave RBR things will be equal btw them
no his manager got him a better deal at renault
Ricciardo didn't do anything to show he was going to deal with pressure well at RBR, after he returned mid-2023
I will have still stayed, he left but when for worse option tbh
and performed just as well at renault
in a much slower car
getting podiums
Ricciardo is not the same driver now as he was in 2018. He isn't the best choice for the 2nd RBR seat.
Yh I respect that 3 podiums in 2020
It was 2021 where he first started to go downhill
and he beat minimum 5 of them
he got a win in 2021?
how was he going downhill in 2021 when he got his first win in 3 years
Then who is? Maybe they should get a rookie from F2 that why they will get what they want within 2 years, or maybe should have kept Gasly
In 2021 he was totally outclassed by Lando
and yet he won and lando didnt
Yes, he did. Remember what I said about wins earlier - maybe one lucky race, but he was being beaten by Norris consistently, and was eventually dropped the following year. The statistic of race win is overrated.
Because of team orders
he was dropped cos he said himself, he had trouble adapting to the new regs
Winning a race is nice for vanity but isn't the best thing overall, consistent points are much better
Moving to MCL destroyed his career how i wish he was in this yearās McL he will have done better tbh
Yh Lando might have won
Tsunoda or Lawson
When did u start watching f1?
2020
i said this before
it was when i started getting into it
Hadjar
The McLaren was not bad in 2021 either
I have no idea why its not clear and obvious
Putting Hadjar straight into an RBR would not work
was prob the worst time to start cos of covid making it a silly season
Yes it would
Yuki ā
rookies have never performed at redbull so yea
Apparently Hadjar didn't impress RBR in his FP1 either (saw that on The Race)
I wasnāt able to adapt quickly
Norris nearly won in Russia in 2021 anyway
why put a rookie directly into RBR when you have a junior team which is for that exact purpose
makes zero sense
Canāt read much from one free practice session
yea but his own stupidity lost him the race
If wins are important
Because that rookie has easily the most potential
Lawson and Tsunoda are stop gaps
Williams put Colapinto in based on one practice session which impressed them
Nah
F2 isn't everything
should give him that VCARB seat before RBR to see how he performs
No, but an insanely impressive junior career kinda is
Hadjar's can definitely good in time and will prob get the VCARB seat when RBR decide who replaces Checo
He deserves a seat but defo shouldn't go to RBR straight away
But they have nothing to lose
He made a mistake yh
None of their options are strong enough to take back second in the world championship
The WCC?
they can still win wcc
Lawson or Tsunoda is the only logical option
and can still lose wdc
They really canāt
Yes
they can
I agree it's very unlikely
its mathematically possible
Mathematically yes but realistically no
if the car gets better then yes
Iām sensing a Norris win in Sao Paulo
I gtg now, to summarise
Perez - getting dropped at some point
Ricciardo - not returning
Lawson - potentially to RBR
Tsunoda - potentially to RBR
Hadjar - probably to VCARB
How is the car getting better though
They arenāt bringing more upgrades
They prob won't be silly enough to lose focus on the '25 car
I said if
(if my mom had balls she would be my dad)
Are we expecting a 1-2
I donāt think Piastri will be 2nd in quali tho
no because piastri is bad
you're underestimating Ferrari
I think Ferrari will be either P2 or P3
its going to rain so mclaren will be quickest
hes not bad, just not good enough for p2 rn
Hell Max with a 5 grid place penalty might even overtake Piastri
I think he just lacks experience
He does have potential though
hungary no cos he was given it
Nah people were praising him since Belgium
it was a great drive in baku
people were praising him for the āmost points in last six racesā or whatever
but landos drive in baku was much better
I think he is still behind Norris though, by quite a bit
i have sad news
goatifi wins WDC and WCC all by himself you're all wrong
I think Piastri wonāt do better than Norris until at least 2026
piastri is no longer the top scorer since verstappen's last gp win
I think he needs more experience
To settle
who is
leclerc?
or lando
just stop thinking goatifi wins it all
real
verstappen and norris my ass
not that guy who paid FIA to win the WDC in 2021
sigh
and not that overrated driver who underperforms in the fastest car
Sm0000thhh OpperraaatttooooOOoo00RrrRrr
did he sing that when he won in mexico
I don't think so, I was waiting for it and never heard
I still can't believe they declared him King of Mexico
That was hilarious
who has the most wins at mexico, surely lewis right?
doesnt he have the most tracks with the most wins at them?
I think that's marginally better than declaring a Spaniard such lmao
no well cos its carlos first win there
australia is his best track no?
or does he have no tracks with double wins
'22 at Silverstone, '23 Singapore, '24 Australia and Mexico
ok so yea he cant really be called the king of any track
This has been a banger year for Sainz actually
but i would say australia is his best, would you?
came back after a surgery and won
(max and george dnf but yk)
CANT PARK THERE GEORGE
I mean he led for like the entire race, I think that's fair
Though basically the same in Mexico
I don't think Mexico counts as his best because Leclerc was holding off, so we'll go Australia
Silverstone is his best
thereās a straight in silverstone that is named after lewis right
Yep! The Hamilton straight
2 wins, crazy. i think heās gonna outscore 2022
He is doing better than 2022 tbh, Ferrari just went for the bold choice
Lewis is just Lewis, bigger than F1
but hes in a competitive car next season. we might see him win a few races esp since his mental healths been getting better ever since that 2021 inchident
If Ferrari will be at front of the grid and continue to be we might witness 8th
Ferrari better be competitive next season. I have hopes with what they're doing right now.
If McLaren keeps up what they've been doing and RB figures out at what point they put the tires on backwards so they can fix it, next year might be hella competitive.
The problem is not the start of the season, it all able developing in the right direction, if they got the development right this year Leclerc will be leading the WDC rn
Plus Haas getting faster with Toyota
I would pay cash money to see a solid RB/McLaren/Ferrari/Haas fight for the title
I was very impressed by Haas performance
Very true
Imagine if Leclerc had p5 at least instead of DNF and pointless races
Lando fuckedup and I donāt think he will get another opportunity like this any close, he wasted 12 races ffs š¤¦āāļø
if no āinchidentsā happen like in 2022 or 2018
was rhe fastest car
and then fell off
It's beyond me how he managed to do that
2018 ferrari even gave prime hamilton a hard time in the beginning. reminder vettel was alr out of his prime by then
Ferrari need to get away to keep the development right
2018 vettel was still good js less aggressive than his rb days
Even with good development Ferrari always seems like a dice roll though. I have no idea how they can be wildly competitive one week and have the floor falling out the next.
I canāt even imagine it, wasting 12 races been tje fastest car overall, he will have been leading comfortably
2018 was peak season absolutely greatness
mclarenās the fastest car since miami right
kimi first win since idk how many years in COTA
I donāt even know how they are at the front rn, they had zero upgrades in Austin
Lol
Believe so
somewhat
wsp
Yoo
if ferrai have a decent result with this one Im gonna be over the moon
Miami won thx to SC
Imola: didnāt even know he had the pace to win
Monaco: poor qualifying
Canada: poor qualifying + worst race start
Spain: bottle T1
GB gp: McL repeating Russia 21
Hungary: MCL should have let him win
Belgium: idk how Max finished above him š¤¦āāļø
Netherland: good
Monza; got outsmarted by a 2 year driver at t3 and couldnāt make places
Baku: thatās why u should set time very quick
Singapore: almost bottles with 20sec lead
US; Lando doing his things š¤¦āāļø
Mexico: should have won
few corrections
Where am i wrong
Canada bad sc
Belgium awful start
Baku unlucky with yellows
Belgium MCL had alot of pace we saw it with Oscar, Norris should have done better
Now Lando needs to outscore Max by 11 points every race to win
I think the moment when COTA ended Max was closer to the WDC than ever
His chance is gone, even tho I donāt want Max to win be we can all see it happing
Hence why I said poor start
Lando is not the most threatening unfortunately
Put Lewis or Charles in the same car
Lando had i job to do, keep the lead after lap 1 that way he will finish ahead if max
Job done
Sometimes i love how other fuck up to prove how good Lewis was when he had the chance
prople say lewis isnt a deserving driver bc of the car
went against nico, vettel and max
Vettel did go against Alonso, Button, Webber, Hamilton in 2011 or 2012 iirc?
Pretty intense
but his car was very dominant at that time
Vettel still not respected enough
Just as max is rn
prime Hamilton also had a pretty dominant car
but he actually dominated
unlike cough cough
damnnnn everyone sees his potential
I will definitely love it if he make it
same tbh
but ye those who said lewis only won bc of the car isnt completely correct. 2013-2016 fought with Rosberg and lost in 2016 bc of a mechanical issue. 2014 came back from a 30 point lead (iirc?) and rosberg won in h2h quali
Whoever says Lewis won because of the car he didnāt watch him live
mercedes was competitive, multiple wins this year, they just fell off after silverstone
yea but quali means nothing unless its a track with little overtaking opportunities
like obviously if you quali at the back then youre prob not gonna win
but its happened before
multiple wins this year? by mercedes? what?
They only had a good patch which lasted like 5-6 races
yea???
austria, belgium, silverstone?
not a lot
it's multiple
I know
yea i never said alot?
no teams aside from Redbull, Ferrari, Mclaren, Mercedes have multiple wins
mhm
Wouldāve been interesting if it was max vs leclerc
how?
why is lando and max not interesting?
Leclerc wouldve probably taken the lead in that mcl by now
lando has never been higher than p4 in standings
would've been interesting if Max hadn't already had a huge margin
yea
yeah, we have 2 half-belgian drivers fighting each other
this year is the most interesting since 2021.
but yea if max hadnt won 7 of the first 10 races itd be more interesting
Idc about nationality honestly i just want a good title fight
maybe
So what?
is it gonna be Ferrari this year or Mclaren
mclaren most likely
Leclerc isn't exactly the most pristine driver under pressure either
Don't count out ferrari yet, they are fighting
they quite dwindled down
france.
What?
3 seasons ago btw
after the break, Ferrari for some reason went cooking
Just because he made one error does not mean that he is error prone
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
and when did I say he is error prone
didnt know that was 3 years ago
The other teams upgrades went crap, Ferrari may or may have not made any upgrades are fast for some reason
all upgrades are public so
Sorry i misinterpreted your words
well Ferrari have none
i think the existing set up still works for them
actually I take back what I said
2022,2023 and 2024
was it not 2023?
It was 2022
We werent even racing in france in 23 genius
there was no French GP last year
plus that car you showed its a 2022 Ferrari F1-75 car btw
like honestly, most boring f1 season ever
I'm not gonna doubt Leclerc but I would like to see how he handles Max's racecraft
max is the best driver on the grid right now
We have seen it in 2019 and 2022
And in 23 vegas
well obviously but the best car no
no?
Austria 2019 š„¶
If anyone knows how to race max its only leclerc
mclaren has the best car lol
Its already confusing which team has the best car right now
Is it Redbull, Mclaren, Ferrari or what
no.
and lewis
mclaren ferrari redbull
bro has been sleeping during the races
and former teammates
Gave him his own medicine in 2019 silverstone š
can't even watch the GP's early in the morning
got taken out by Vettel anyway
Ehhh no whenever lewis and max race they usually collide
it is possible to watch them after its live
Even leclerc and max have collided
meh its boring if its replay
how
I might watch the Las Vegas GP since its 2pm for me that day
yea but whats wrong with watching after?
not as exciting
how?
Fast forward to see the winner
Trust me, I hate replays, I want Live races
there's no point if I search F1 in google to see the winner
bro.
then dont???
i dont get it
you dont have to see who won to watch it after its live
its very lazy to watch the whole replay
i get it
youre literally just finding reasons to not watch the sport
atp why be a fan if youre not gonna watch it
seeing the race live you're there with them, the excitement and shock is all fresh. If you're rewatching it doesn't feel the same, everything has already happened and it's not as exciting
well its not rewatching, its just watching after the live broadcast if you missed it
yeah that's what i mean
I don't find the fun if watching the replays alright
i never watch the full replays, takes up too much time and it's not as exciting
I find it fun if the race is live and I can watch it with my friends live as well
same, i always watch with a friend
and yes what Kato said its also a waste of time watching a replay race instead of the Live race itself
see i watch for the race
but watching it live doesnt take up too much time?
what is this argument
it takes the exact same amount of time
less even cos if there is ads if red flag you can skip them
i've been a fan for so long man
i know foxtel runs ads sometimes in safety car periods
especially if its like a big crash like how checo and sainz was this year but with a full safety
and takes a while to clear
it's just a different vibe
yea it might be but youre telling me if you cant watch it live youd rather not watch it at all?
what kind of logic is that
what if you miss out of an awesome race
personally i just watch highlights if i missed it live
like baku this year
i watch while im playing games or doing work
multi task
actually gonna watch mexico rn
havent been able to cos it wasnt on foxtel for some reason
The emotions are different when it's actually happening in real time
than if you're watching it back
everything already happened
again, watching the replay races doesn't have the same fun when its live
that might be the case
It can still be exciting dont get me wrong but it won't match the livestream
imo its the same
yeah it's just totally different
i couldnt care if its live or not
like watching a concert after it's already happened
thats your opinion
yeah definitely
also what the fuck happened to radio rewind
and same I watch the highlights if I never watched the live races or the inside story
like we have best of team radio for singular races but no best of the year yk
agreed
but schedule and timezones happen
Yes, why waste my time watching a race that already happened
IMAGINE OUT OF NOW WHERE. RUSSEL WINS THE BRAZIL GP.
thats why I watch the highlights
lewis
interesting but I would want Ferrari to win the WCC
HE IS WASHED. HE SHOULD RETIRE FROM THE SPORT.
if lewis wins in brazil i'll cry
mate why have the number 44 on your name if you don't like lewis
plus the Mercedes cars have the same pace
who said that i didnt like him? its his current form he is washed. that dosent mean that i hate him.
he's not yet washed if he has the same pace as George so I wouldn't say he's washed
lewis washed yet beating his teammate and winning races
we'll see next year when he gets a competitive car
mate, compare his quali performance in 2023 it was even between george and hamilton.. it was 11-11. in 2024 he just forgot how to put a single good fast lap. Only his race pace is superior to george ig.
i beleive strongly that in 2025 if hamilton dosent work on his quali pace charles leclerc would beat the shi~ out of him.
in 2024 he didnāt forget lol
the mercedes tyre deg is just horrendous, even over a single lap
and lewis pushes the car to the absolute limit
c'mon you have to accept i am true. no excuses.
what does quali matter if he can perform in the race and beat george anyway lol
if lewis was trying to win a title then maybe heād try fix it, but heās not because the car isnāt good enough
LEWIS HIMSELF ACCEPTED IN A INTERVIEW THIS YEAR HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. SO DONT DEFEND HIM.
you can see in his wet quali laps that he is still incredible
NEXT YEAR IT WOULD.
the ferrari has far better tyre wear, his pace will return
Bruh the RNG keeps giving me the worst drivers.
he's obviously not doing as well as he used to, but he's still performing well
ig nah, he himself said that he is not just good enough in a post qualifying interview this year when his teammate qualified way ahead of him.
ok? he's still beating george in the wdc lmao
well he is
hmmm. next year 2025 he would face his toughest rival charles lecrec ig. CHARLES IS A TYPE OF DRIVER WHICH DOSENT MAKES MISTAKES. HIS RACE PACE IS phenomenal AS well as the qualifying pace.
so yeah it maybe be good that lewis may beat russel this year but if he didnt improve his quali pace he would loose his reputation.
@lavish ore
why i sound like a ferrari fan. ( even though i am not.)
I'll hate it when lewis tries to break Schumacher's record
Why lewis need more WDC's
IS 7 NOT ENOUGH
"doesn't make mistakes"
almost flew into a barrier 3 days ago all by himself
stop the glaze lol
lewis will have a challenge that's for sure
i bet you got my point, still you're arguing me.
MARK MY WORDS NEXT YEAR LECREC WOULD BEAT THE SHI~ OUT OF HAMILTON HE IF DOSENT IMPORVE HIMSELF.
i'm disagreeing with you saying leclerc doesn't make mistakes, there's just no need to say anything like that lol
trust me Hamilton will not be better than Schumacher in a Ferrari
Because greatness doesnāt have a limit..
the hell was that last line
I saw that
Because the ONE OF THE BEST doesn't settle for second best.
@snow swan
š£ļø š£ļø š£ļø
Wait I thought Lewis beat the old Ferrari driverās record in 2020
i think they mean for world titles
Right, I thought Lewis overtook him in 2020.
wdc*
Mind telling me any other mistake this year except austria q3????
Ironic coming from lewis fan who just binned the car in austin
doesn't matter, he does make mistakes and saying he doesn't is stupid
doesn't matter
Stop embarrassing yourself
The way you talk you were very sure that he made atleast 5 more mistakes
if that's how you feel sure
looks like I STARTED A WAR š
Australia q3
rawe ceek better
And he finished p2 which was the maximum result for him considering he was never comfortable in the car
Ok but still an error
How about Leclercās crash in Hungary, FP2
And crash in Baku, FP1
Adding crashes which did not even effect his races wow
Every crash matters for costcap and setup reasons
Did he win either of those races? No
So there is the potential that they hindered Ferrariās data
So fp1 crash in Hungary couldve taken ferarri from 4th fastest to 1/2nd fastest š
To third fastest, and maybe beat the guy in the third fastest car š
yeah.
Last time i checked he finished ahead of verstappen
He was in the second fastest car, nice try
Okay buddy
if i had to think of a recent incident or smth of leclerc not doing well, it wasnt even him making mistakes. but i think of baku because he spent like half the race or smth chasing piastri but not getting any moves in (still salty about it ngl)
SPR RA WE
INT CE EK
Canāt thing of a single reason that may have caused Red Bullās tyres to completely die
yeah, fs it is.
Imagine max and lando enter 2024 ABU DHABI WITH THE SAME POINTS.
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING.
me think checo blind
2021 type shit
if lando does lose by 1 point tho itll make me sad cos it means daniel is the reason, max would still win tho cos more race wins this season
so if they end the season on same points that means daniel would be the reason in singapore
What would they do if max and lando are with same points after the end of abu dhabi also??
whoever has most wins in the season
wins wdc
if same wins then most p2
and if same p2 then most podiums
k
i just said this š
im watching mexico rn and carlos cut t3 on lap 10
he only barely cut it but still cut it
i just checked. the both have 12 podiums and max has 7 wins and lando have 3 wins.
yes
imagine lando wins all the races.
4 races left right?
that would makes things interesting.
but its also whoever has more p2
i think max has more p2
and if lando wins all races max can get 4 more p2
so i doubt itll go that far in it
i highly doubt itll even be same points after AD
at the smallest itll be 10 point diff
is their any chance just like 2014 to spice thigns up fia awards double points in the last race?
Lando has more
oh he does? how many more
doubt they would
wait.
tbh, thats a possibility.
the 2nd time max pushed lando off in mexico he almost clipped landos front left.
2 more
i see
so genuinely the only reason max is ahead is the wins
and even if he had 1 win more he would be p2 in standings
man how can you have a under double your teammates points in a top 3 car and still be employed.
i worded that so wrong
how can your teammate have over double your points in a top 3 can and you still be employed
checo helps rb with merch so~~
they care more about wdc than wcc
And sponsors
stupid team
money talks
it doesnt matter, checo is hurting the team more than helping
this just means the team doesnt get wcc money
only way checo is helping is sponsors and getting them more wind tunnel time
if sponsors will pay difference of wcc money then redbull wont mind
he would most probably be replaced with liam ig,
hope checo is dropped after abu dhabi.
OR EARLIER MAYBE~~
he should have been dropped for daniel at belgium.
depends on how much is buy out fee is
no he has a clause in his contract
nah daniel is washed washed he deserved it tbh, even though i like daniel.
if he underperforms he can be dropped
was still their best option š
daniel would have done better
for rest of 24 possibly but not for 2025
no his contract literally has a termination clause
SEE IF I WOULD BE A RB CHEIF, I WOULD CONSIDER FRANCO GIVING A SHOT.
have you seen it
if he under performs like he is, they have the right to terminate his contract
its what has been said
someone repost this
what has been said is not facts
how many points behind was checo at belgium? (behind max)
oh š
L site
hold on
"believed"
speculation not fact
it would have happened if daniel's form was good.
i doubt checco will allow him self to be sacked early w/o some extra money
checo would most probably be replaced by daniel by now, if daniel's form was good.
his form would have been good if vcarb wasnt inconsistent
lmao he can be sacked rn
the team just cares more about money
fym "nah"
he has been given many chances.
2021 mcl. we have seen it. he got a oppurtunity with mcl to return but can't make it.
in 2021 he was on form
ive said it MULTIPLE times, he said himself, he struggled adapting to new regs
got outpaced by lando and replaced by oscar who is performing better ig.
in 2021, was he ever really on form
well it dosent explain why in almost all of the races his team mate qualifies ahead of him and gives a better result.
Multiple?
MULTIPLE?
mb, was thinking of 2020
SINGLE PODIUM AND WIN.
yea its because lando is a better driver, doesnt make daniel shit
YOU GOTTA BE THE BEST TO SURVIVE IN F1.
THE SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST.
daniel was definitely one of the better drivers in 2021
other than the guys out the sport, who was he actually better than
favouritism on its peak fr.
Stroll and Tsunoda? Thats probably it
vsauce music begins.
he had a 13yr time in f1 and made lots. he will be sad thats hes out of f1 but not super down
I HAVE IT PRINTED OUT
???
latifi? mick? kevin?
google it.
Magnussen wasnāt on the grid lol
there is no way you think those 3 did better than daniel in 2022
Oh 2022?
you sure?
I was replying to a point about 2021
oh
i have it, i have it printed out.

even so
If weāre talking 2022, I genuinely donāt think thereās a driver currently on the grid he was better than
George ššš
he was doing better
they were driving far worse cars dude.
are you referring to 2021 george russell who put a williams on the front row
a single quali lap
2021 george russell who put his Williams in third⦠in the dry
where did he end that race?
Second
so his only points
nope
do you know what happened in the race russell qualified second
it was absolutely torrential rain for both qualifying and the main race
podium p3.
ahh yeah in belgium
ok so it wasnt even a race
well he qualified in second soooā¦
why you sound a bit annoying tbh? no offence btw.
you just need to put in a good lap or have rain
the 9th fastest car??
okay but he was in the ninth fastest car
source- TRUST ME BRO.
No of laps have absolutely no relation with being faster in rain lol
id also say he outperformed ocon in 2021 too
??? no its literally true
from the f1 site itself
24 laps in quali
ocon had two standout drives that make his season better
gives you more chances to get a better lap.
the guy randomly got involved in hamilton vs verstappen
idk if you can tell from the timing screens but clearly laps in Q1 and Q2 had no impact on laps in Q3
By your logic ocon should be atleast p5
like the track was completely different from Q2 to Q3
thats not how it works, more laps = higher chance
it doesnt mean it WILL happen
just means it CAN happen
but ig you dont know how basic math works š
wait so the current engines? or for 2026 regs
it does say about 2026 but it doesnt say it is for 2026
More laps don't mean better results, just like more noise doesnāt make a Karen any smarter.
pretty sure everyone did the same number of laps in Q3
bar vettel who did one extra as he was released before norris crashed
basic statistics tho. if you do more laps you have a better chance of improving
IN THE SAME RACE THEN ACCORDING TO YOUr METH, SORRY MATHS OCON, GASSLY,VETTEL SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE SAME RESULT THEN? THEy ALSO DID 23 LAPS.
once again. that is NOT how it works
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD CHANCE MEANS
MORE LAPS = BETTER CHANCE
DOESNT MEAN THEY WILL
HOLY SHIT
1 lap really?
can you please explain how doing more laps in different conditions affects qualifying performance
tf. i am out of here.
please just say you dont understand basic maths. please.
i understand maths not meth.
@crisp mason
no but how do laps in DIFFERENT CONDITIONS make a difference
different braking points, different places you can apply throttle
hope you would have studied a bit more, and understood about complexites rather than doing simple statistics. there are may factors especially in a f1 qualifying lap like whether, tyre degradation and more. so more laps dosent mean a better result.
and yeah please stop doing meth instead of maths.
DONT WANT TO ARGUE FURTHER.
why the fuck do you keep bringing up meth.
Because your math skills are more addictive than the real thing,
Fr
i did give the source
More laps by no means mean a better result.. what it means is - you have a better understanding of the track grip
No need
i will just say, i never said it means you will
You still respond..
.
.
Is this spa 2021 we're talking about?
mhm
In those conditions no. of laps meant nothing
After the red flag there was not a lot of time
Russel himself said he tried going differently into T1 (like Lando did, cause he say his onboards) and he was just fast
It was all "experimental" in those last laps
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for a new engine its 5 places
So he cant terrorise lando now
for a few laps
HOW, HOW the performance-related clause is NOT YET ACTIVATED?? Delusional stuff on both sides.
Absolute circus

this is what im saying
they care more about the money than a world title

oh but he will (hes going to divebomb T1 and send it into the chassis of Lando taking him out and himself)
is it official if verstappen will have a grid penalty in Brazil?
you'll know when it happens
or if it doesn't
hi
true
its real
most likely will be behind both Ferraris, McLarens and Mercedes. It's actualy a bigger penalty than it seems
permitted he can get past the mercs in the first stint, then he's set for the remainder of the race
Yeah idk Iāll believe it when i see it actually hindering him š
Especially if itās gonna be a wet race
so sad
Idk the last stint in mexico max was slower than the mercs
I take evryone in a 1V1
Pause?
just putting it out there, thereās a chance of rain during the race
Hopefully
Then Carlos gets another winš„
Is it actually gonna rain?
Charles not gonna let him win twice in a row
The way I cackled when I saw this
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Only a 5 grid place Penalty and a fresh new engine. He could make a move on sprint/race day.
It would be bad if he qualifies anything lower than p3
Yeah maybe
Forecast says rain during all weekend
will max take the pen for the sprint
Are you allowed to do that
Nope,a penalty can only be applied for the race
I was gonna say that would be such a cheesy way to get out of it
aw
Also yes,Max will have to take a penalty
The race engine meant for Mexico is bad and Max had to use a engine meant for FPs for the race,which is why Max clocked 3km/h less than Checo and a bit more to Lando at the speed traps of the race
Sauber ftw
Please let there be rain, I want another knife fight of a grand prix like in Mexico
you gotta have a strong will to be last place every race for the whole season. He might be the strongest on the grid
And guess what
Bro keeps his head up and keeps going
Aināt nobody like him š£ļø
Real
One day he will get what is owed
2073 world champion for sure
I heard he is being dropped after Brazil?
rumors.
it makes no sense to drop checo this late in the season anyways. there's not much a better teammate, if they even had one ready to go, can do.
We can only hope
But if they wait till the end of the season they can give him a better send off than ricciardo
im still mad how rb sent daniel off
even renault and mclaren gave better send offs
McLarenās was hypocrite and a poor attempt at cleaning up the PR disaster theyād created when posting about how Daniel āwasnāt going anywhereā right after theyād signed Piastri
At least with Vcarb he knew in advance
Yeah Ricciardo had a 3 year contract, only did 2 and got paid out for the 3rd
nice chunky $18 mil
Hey he has a large ranch still winning
yep
now he can just ride 110cc bikes on his ranch, kick back
and i dunno, marry his girlfriend or something
Start making babies as Verstappen put it in his Australian interview 
i mean, he's not wrong
birth rate's going down
need more future F1 drivers
See if he does NASCAR or not
real
so real
we donāt have many fathers in the grid right
checo, kmag
hulkenberg
who else
seb is a father but hes not on the grid
he was when he was on the grid
i mean a lot of the drivers are pretty young and not married
not that you have to be married nowadays but regardless
Kids are a big commitment
and there's the whole racing is dangerous aspect
Goes so fast
RIP birth rate
lmao
bro thinks he's thanos
real
Type shit
Real
watch verstappen pull a 2021 on norris
He definitely will, as he showed in Austin and Mexico that's all he can do to keep his competitors away from him in the championship
literally 2021 all over again
same people who hated hamilton and loved verstappen in 21 shouldn't switch up now
Indubitably š¤š
They've become even more passionate š¤”
thing is I like verstappen
he's a brilliant racer
like top 10
along with raikkonen and senna and schumi
but he's like the latter 2
I wouldn't doubt he'd purposefully crash norris for a championship

i love max, dont get me wrong, its just that his driving in mexico seemed like he didnt care
his driving in any championship
He left Norris pretty shook I actually felt bad for the guy
Norris is a nice guy also
it was a dumb move,
lando is a great dude, he can get a little cocky on the track but who doesnt
I'm not gonna lie and say he's a bad driver like half of the population, but his methods are...interesting, I don't think he realizes there are other means of winning championships
really want to just see a title fight with battles like leclerc and verstappen 2022
max or lando
Max
instead of verstappen using his "back off or we crash" strategy
yup
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