monaco-gp

[crisp mason]

being so he got a penalty for the teams info

[winter forge]

Well, there’s other penalties that punish drivers for team errors

Unsafe releases

[crisp mason]

yea

[winter forge]

And time penalties that aren’t served correctly

[crisp mason]

unsafe release should definitely be a team penalty

not driver

because if the team is penalised instead of driver it will probably stop unsafe releases or atleast reduce them as the team will be more vigilant because they don’t want to lose money

[winter forge]

but the driver getting a time penalty can also cost the team money

[crisp mason]

time penalties not being served correctly could be driver error but also stop go penalties are kind of rare, i don’t see them ever

[winter forge]

thats not just for stop go penalties, its for all penalties served in the pits

[crisp mason]

do the teams get fined if the driver gets a penalty?

[winter forge]

ricciardo got one earlier this year

[crisp mason]

honestly they should just stop allowing penalties to be served in the pits

maybe instead, when a driver has a penalty they only allow 4 on the wheels

so 1 for each wheel yk

would have the same effect as serving a penalty does now

just less risk of being penalised for not serving it correctly

[crisp mason]

what race? i might have missed it

[winter forge]

Monza

5 second penalty, some guy touched the car when he came into the box and so he got another 10 seconds

[crisp mason]

see if that’s how it happens the driver does not need that

team error should = team penalty not driver penalty

any time the team is at fault they get a fine of some sorts

or maybe less wind tunnel time

so it fucks them over for the next year if they do it multiple times

[stiff bough]

counterpoint: the teams would rather take the financial penalty over the sporting penalty because the potential gains from doing an unsafe release (points) could mean multiple millions at the end of the year in prize money

but I don't really see a point in changing what works now, F1 is a team sport and when a team fucks up, the team (which includes the driver) gets punished with a time penalty or whatever they were given

[crisp mason]

i do agree but when you punish the driver it, especially when they’re fighting for drivers championship points it’s worse for them, mclaren are going to win wcc so penalising the driver for the teams fuck up is just cruel if the teams already a favourite for the title

[crisp mason]

well i did also say “or less wind tunnel time” meaning they get screwed

[stiff bough]

I don't see why you would be giving major sporting penalties for things as silly as unsafe releases

[remote knoll]

Hi

Max Verstappen argument over :(

[feral lance]

wtf I just realsed there's 23 bots for the 23 racers

[gaunt sable]

Me furthermore

[muted rover]

@carmine tangle

[urban zenith]

I cant seem to figure out if what max did was planned or purely just him being frustrated

[gentle verge]

Oh shoot I didn’t even notice

[crimson sundial]

Damn that was a sweet one

[crimson sundial]

frustrated just like back in the days

i guess

[urban zenith]

No but it mightve saved him a lot of points

Norris probably wouldve gotten up to p1

And max would be p4 if not lower

Him holding up norris by pushing him off track couldve cost him a p1

[crimson sundial]

yeah thats a good vision. I guess thats why also the big 20 sec penalty

[urban zenith]

Yeah

But idk if max couldve thought of that whilst driving

[gentle verge]

Right place right time right person really. Max wasn’t gonna miss the opportunity to defend his wdc even if it meant being penalized

[tough mauve]

why is the mexican gp such a big deal? like everyone showing up with painted faces or dressed up or something and the special mexican f1 theme

[crimson sundial]

first international race, since somewhere beginning '60's

and cause its a good vibe I guess? loved that mexcian mariachi theme haha

[tough mauve]

oh cool okay

[lilac nova]

RAWE
CEEK

f1 | brazil-gp

SPR RA
INT CE

[stiff venture]

So hyped for a sprint weekend.

I’m loving these triple headers

[stuck maple]

🥐 chain starting now
👇

[vagrant acorn]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[candid shoal]

it’s over

[rain merlin]

fia is a joke

[formal skiff]

gotta admit this is funny as shit

[analog merlin]

lol

[fading hill]

[dusty walrus]

we’re fucked

our boy is gonna have to pick up rubbish with max

[remote knoll]

eh

[remote knoll]

That's their culture

[remote knoll]

The gap between Norris and Sainz hadn't really gone down til like the last 15 laps

[copper oasis]

Who decided this is the hill for the FIA to die on

FOM doesn't give a shit

[copper oasis]

Mexicans are passionate fans for their sports. Reminds me of the Japanese a lil bit. The costumes and such anyways

[glad wigeon]

Hi

[oblique drift]

I love this server

[stiff venture]

They are passionate people with a rich culture. Especially around this time.

[rapid horizon]

fia trying not to get offended when someone swears challenge(impossible)

they put more investigation into swearing than actual track incidents

[candid shoal]

formula one is over

[fleet aspen]

If max gets community service and Charles just gets a warning this will be the most corrupt FIA decision ever made

[stiff venture]

No we still have four races

[fleet aspen]

I’m a big supporter in freedom of speech and the fact that they’re trying to control the way people speak is disgusting.

[candid shoal]

seriously it shouldn’t be consequence worthy at all but if they’re gonna do this they gotta go full out or it’s just gonna be another example of them being inconsistent and stupid

this entire thing is just stupid bro

[candid shoal]

i was just saying that cuz the sport has come to banning swearing and taking out fastest lap points and inconsistent decisions not like literally

[knotty mist]

It's making the sport sedate and corporate

Like everything else... and it's crap.

[stiff venture]

Haha yeah. The swearing part cracks me up

[stiff venture]

This is why I don’t watch interviews anymore. At least not official ones. FIA is more crazy about what people say than the mods in here.

[pastel charm]

hi

[gloomy fox]

Greetings

[remote knoll]

About that

[stiff bough]

the fastest lap point being gone is a good thing imo. It rarely added anything of value

Should instead give a point for pole

[junior granite]

points for quali is actually a good idea

forgot that that's a thing in some series

[gaunt sable]

Don't they give 2 points in f2 for pole in feature races?

[wooden kettle]

agree

actually idk i kinda like fl points but i understand why they’d get rid of them

[hushed wadi]

the 2016 championship actually changes with 1 vs 2 points for pole

meanwhile the 2024 gap actually increases with points for pole ☠️

[candid shoal]

i disagree tbh pole in itself should already be assure points the maximum at that, fastest lap point acknowledges drivers climbing and putting the extreme effort into their race and particularly was an opportunity for the midfield cars to also showcase that they're trying

[stiff bough]

But most of the time that isn't the case. Whoever has a free stop is able to get the fastest lap point, look at last race with Leclerc. Ideally the fastest lap should go to the actual fastest driver in the race, not just the guy who pitted on the penultimate lap for softs just to nab an extra point for the constructors

It's just a free point for anyone in the top 10 lucky/fortunate enough to have a 20s+ gap behind them

[rapid horizon]

hold up this might actually be fire

[stiff bough]

At least with the pole point, you're actually rewarding someone for being the fastest man on track

[rapid horizon]

true true

stops people like RB stealing the fastest lap point then

they are NEVER getting pole

😞

[sacred compass]

F2 does points for qualifying, I don’t understand why F1 doesn’t

I feel like it’d make more sense for points for qualifying rather than fastest lap if they really wanna move that. In qualifying EVERYONE is going all out where as, as other have stated, often times the fastest lap goes to someone who just happened to have a “free pit stop”

At least in qualifying it shows who truly is the fastest around a single lap due to the fact, as I said, everyone is going all out

[crisp mason]

guys, double mexico race!

[fleet aspen]

Hear me out, 1 point for fastest pit stop 👀

https://tenor.com/view/ferrari-f1memes-f1-formula1-rage-gif-25940116

[craggy marsh]

then we’ll have teams doing a gazillion pitstops if they’re out of the points

[south heron]

same

yeah I like the FL point but at the same time it's indeed pretty meaningless for the reasons stated by others

[hushed olive]

Lewis Lost the title by 3 points in 2016 ?

[hushed wadi]

no he would've won by 3 points if pole gave 2 points

[hushed olive]

Wow

Imagine 2021 with that

Max still wins ?

[hushed wadi]

by more actually

boring

no points

1 point

[scenic inlet]

Just Ferrari being Ferrari

[wooden kettle]

true

[hushed olive]

2024 ferrari>>>>>>>>>>> 2022 ferrari

[scenic inlet]

[snow swan]

hope in my ferrari

[snow swan]

and box now box for hards

STAY OUT STAY OUT STAY OUT

Charles: I had a nightmare once.

Person Interviewing Him and Pierre: And you screamed?

Charles: Box box

[fickle forum]

Ferrari drivers went through it all

[snow swan]

team we are fast

how???

we simply put dry tires in dry conditions and executed reasonable pit stops

team we are fast

BOX BOX BOX BOX FOR INTERS

box for hypersofts

[fickle forum]

Crazy how that works huh

[snow swan]

name a ferrari driver w/o ferrari strategy ptsd

there are none 😭

[snow swan]

look after your tires

[fickle forum]

Kimi, he prob didnt care

[snow swan]

i need to find the vid again of charles getting therapy for ricciardo

and then charles' card declines so ricciardo starts going through ferrari strategy (it's an edit)

[fickle forum]

Ok i need this video now that you said that

[snow swan]

maybe the steering wheel incident

[snow swan]

i need ot find it again

😭

he rly said take backs

[dapper plover]

they used to give 4 points

[blissful lotus]

Honestly still can't believe checo had a drive

[analog merlin]

lol

[formal pasture]

Although Piastri got p8 he put up an impressive performance with the overtakes

he was p17 on the grid

[spark zealot]

Bro I saw a clip from max's stream and he had the WDC trophy on his desk, how cool is that 😭

Bro's just flexing on his stream

[stiff bough]

Meh, I don't think he was particularly quick

Max on the other hand, in the weaker car dropped practically down to last, just a few seconds of Perez and then ended up P6 and ahead of Piastri

[livid cobalt]

why were people hating on robert schwartzman

i remember i saw a comment about robert and blaming oliver in fp1

[clever raven]

conghratlautions carlos

[winter forge]

wasn’t last in all fairness that was only due to the pit stop

[stiff bough]

that's why I said practically down in last

[stiff bough]

Because he didn't completely see the Bearman Albon contact, and had reported that Bearman did something to Albon

its just an overreaction from the fans

[livid cobalt]

he did say "i think" though

like from his pov i understand why he thought bearman caused it but he also didn't see the entire thing

[pastel charm]

mechigo

[desert ingot]

What happened to charles car here?
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/X4sM7WUrYk7u7w7r/

[stiff bough]

he lost traction

[sonic epoch]

Yea some fans are just narrow minded

[ornate pond]

lol

[tough rose]

where can i watch the race as a full?

[craggy marsh]

https://g.co/kgs/vXZYbWw

[tough rose]

no i mean the full grand prix replay

On what platforms is it available on?

stuff like that

[wooden kettle]

f1tv, sky sports

.watch

[jade mural]

If you don't know how to watch Formula 1, this link on the official Formula 1 website has information on how you can watch Formula 1 in your country. This page has a regional list of broadcasters:

https://www.formula1.com/en/toolbar/broadcast-information.html

Formula 1 also offer live sessions through F1 TV Pro in some markets, to see if your country has this service, visit:

https://www.formula1.com/en/toolbar/content_schedule.html

[wooden kettle]

one of these links also tells you where you can watch it locally in different countries

[craggy zenith]

https://racingnews365.com/major-perez-sponsor-considering-red-bull-exit-report

Welp, any day now

[kindred cedar]

riperez

[stiff bough]

what will red bull do without perez's sponsor

[winged dagger]

sack perez and hire someone else for better results

temporary bring daniel back until the end of the szn and then lawson for 2025

[stiff bough]

but they just sacked daniel for being ass

[wooden kettle]

i’d actuallt be kinda pissed if they brough back dan

[regal needle]

I did hear Erik ten Hag get sack due to Poor Performance recently

Reminds me when Nyck de Vries get sack out after 2023 British Grand Prix

Guenther Steiner: If it would be my Decision, I would sack them Both

[quartz kettle]

i dont think that can save man utd anyway

[regal needle]

Guess the Club has no Choice

[grim egret]

so max getting 2x 10sec penalty actually proves that they got he penalty for lando in austin wrong

[grim egret]

daniel is done with motorsports, deleted everything about motorsports from his social media

he lost his will to drive ages ago

[surreal flame]

I’d reckon he still has a chance at Supercars

[grim egret]

at 35

he had came and went

[surreal flame]

David Russell is still driving at 42

[grim egret]

one of the lucky few

[surreal flame]

Craig Lowndes ain’t young either

[grim egret]

he still the passion
Daniel doesnt

[surreal flame]

Jamie Whincup is getting there

[surreal flame]

He still has a shot at it tho

[grim egret]

I think he will gravitate towards TV

or presenting like gunther

but on track he is finished

[surreal flame]

You never know

Gunther might go back to selling boats

[grim egret]

well we are all here for motorsports

not to follow people doing their hobbies

well me that is

I dont know about others

[surreal flame]

Don’t think selling boats is a hobby

[grim egret]

its not motorsports related which i am trying to say

[surreal flame]

Yeah that doesn’t matter tho, simply stating what could be

[grim egret]

alrighty

[surreal flame]

Garth Tander too while we’re at it

[normal quarry]

[winged dagger]

maybe a commentator role like nico or jenson

he’ll do the funny

[grim egret]

yes

[lilac nova]

https://tenor.com/view/rawe-ceek-race-week-race-week-f1-f1-meme-f1-gif-14973609423533639874

[chrome cradle]

huh

[spare glacier]

When does this become the brazil-gp channel?

[stiff bough]

Sometime later today

[wet sequoia]

I’ve learned I will be able to watch the 8 hours of Bahrain, sleep (Alot) watch the first 2 games of LoL Worlds then ditch it (If T1 is 2-0) for Brazil

[queen orbit]

it has become brazil now

epic timing

[amber ruin]

brazil real

[lilac nova]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-brazil-gif-22561984

[spare glacier]

Perfect 😂

[echo urchin]

Top 10 qualy prediction:

1. Max 2. Piastri 3. Leclerc 4. Norris 5. Russell 6. Sainz 7. Hamilton 8. Hulkenberg 9. Alonso 10. Albon

Checo knocked out in q2 👍

[proud tide]

As a checo fan this made me chuckle lol nice

[dense jolt]

prost will win trust

[viscid gust]

how long is the break after brazil?

[dense jolt]

i think 2 weeks?

[viscid gust]

oohh okayy

[dense jolt]

dont quote me on that 🤣

[cyan saffron]

3 weeks

[grim egret]

alpine are the new HAAS

[subtle crest]

2 weekends without a race

[proven leaf]

Same 3 weeks and 3rd weekend is race weekend

[kindred cedar]

what

its 2 weeks

1 weekend

2 weekend

race week!

[dawn zealot]

That's three weeks

[brazen goblet]

If Perez keeps his seat till the end of he season it’ll be a miracle

Leave the f1 before the f1 leaves you

[dawn zealot]

I'm still convinced he's getting left behind in Mexico

Lawson's taking the big seat. For VCARB, well, welcome back Danny!

Imagine if that was the plan all along, Danny's been sipping drinks on a Brazilian beach just waiting

[brazen goblet]

Lmao I don’t think we as a community would handle this news

I mean i would love a ricciardo comeback

[tough hearth]

What does max need to win wdc

[dense jolt]

to finish above lando or just behind him

[hoary grotto]

Can Max win the WDC in Brazil?

[gentle verge]

Brazil gp let’s go!!!

[dawn zealot]

If Lando gets P1 in every race, plus all 4 FL points, and Max gets P3 in every race (including sprints), Lando will win WDC by 1 point

Max P5 in every race and Lando P2 plus 2 FL points (more realistic I think), Max wins by 7

It's...actually closer than I expected, modeling it out

[glass stump]

Nah Max is gonna win it

[dawn zealot]

In this scenario, if Charles gets P1 in every race plus the other two FL points, he loses to Max by 1 point

[gentle verge]

Yeah unfortunately there’s just not enough races left for anyone to realistically win. That said I think lando has at least another win in him before the end of the season

Lando and charles have had great performances but max is too consistent still

[dawn zealot]

I would still put money on Max winning, but as much as it annoys me to say, I think there's still a big chance of an upset. Specifically due to how the RB has fallen off. Max is fighting tooth and nail, driving the 4th fastest car against the #1.

If RB can come back a little or the McLaren hits any kind of hiccup, I think that'll seal it

[gentle verge]

Yeah I guess never say never

[dawn zealot]

Actually the more I think about it, the Ferraris are going to be the deciding factor

The impact to their gap based on Lando coming 1st, 2nd, or 3rd changes significantly even if Max is the same number of positions behind

[tacit mountain]

Max just did what norris couldn't, maximise his result every race

[winged dagger]

RB 4th fastest? damn

[gentle verge]

Yeah pretty much. I love norris too but he’s just not quite up to max’s level yet and that’s fine

He’s already proved he’s a great driver to me

[tacit mountain]

4th fastest car is the Mercedes atm

[gentle verge]

So I never expected him to be able to win the wdc this year. And heck I mean the fact that McLaren is fighting for wcc is more than I expected considering it’s only Oscar’s second season

[drifting geyser]

I think the factor here is more the car. People like to say the McLaren is extremely fast, but I feel like the Ferraris are currently slightly ahead

The McLaren didn't ever have the consistent edge over the rest of the grid that the early season RB did

[winter forge]

Max is not driving the fourth fastest car

[drifting geyser]

Third fastest

[winter forge]

Having one race with a practice engine does not make it fourth fastest, its still obviously third

[dawn zealot]

The unchanging gap between Max and the Mercedes fight last race begs to differ

[drifting geyser]

He had penalties and was struggling with the hard tyres

That doesn't mean overall it is slower than the Mercedes

[winter forge]

and he was using the worlds worst engine which he is replacing this week

[dawn zealot]

Thing is you literally can never know with the Ferraris. It's a coin flip whether or not that car is going to do anything.

Fair enough. We'll see some more this week, but I don't think the RB has any real edge over Mercedes right now

[drifting geyser]

Vasseur seems to be taking them in the right direction. This is the most consistently they've performed well in years

[dawn zealot]

That is true

[gentle verge]

Very true yeah

https://tenor.com/view/this-was-a-big-one-charles-leclerc-f1-meme-gif-23710831

[south heron]

yeah though in the summer they were basically back to where they were in 23

[drifting geyser]

The only worrying thing for them is that they seem to need to nail the car in order to win- they're not like RB where they usually produce a decent strat

[south heron]

yep

[drifting geyser]

They seem to be improving in that respect, besides holding Leclerc back in order to help Sainz

[south heron]

their car while good does seem pretty finicky in terms of getting it to perform as it should

yeah that was dumb

[regal tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/lance-stroll-gif-21687097

[snow swan]

https://tenor.com/view/charles-leclerc-bruh-banana-suit-charles-leclerc-gif-27525709

[signal gulch]

im in the thick of it

[still forge]

They did not though

[drifting geyser]

They kept telling him over the radio to hold back

[still forge]

Brake temps

[drifting geyser]

Hmm yes 'brake temps' when Carlos's car was fine

[still forge]

Well, Charles had the less cooling package, plus Carlos was in clean air so it's normal for Carlos' car to be fine

Reminder that if Charles was pushing more, he may have actually ended up in the wall

Plus, from what i saw, Sainz did not need any help in the race, no one was near him since he overtook Max

It was just a sub-par weekend for Charles, that's all

[still forge]

Man i still think it's a bad idea

Don't get me wrong, Lewis is Lewis but why ruin a perfect driver dynamic (for money, but yeah, you get me)

[rapid horizon]

I'm very interested to see how lewis performs in ferrari

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/charles-leclerc-inchident-incident-max-verstappen-leclerc-gif-27092516

[gentle verge]

As a Ferrari fan I am biased but I agree

😔

I love them together and don’t want it to end especially when none of the drivers asked for it

[foggy ermine]

IMO big mistake here. Sainz and Leclerc would be ruthless in a great car

No guarantee Hamilton will be successful. It’s even probable he won’t be

Hope Sainz going to Williams allows them to rebuild quicker

[south heron]

I don't think it's a big mistake

[unreal folio]

its a decent longer-ish term duo too

[dawn zealot]

The one actual benefit I see out of the whole swap

Also Sainz get an opportunity to be the #1, since he's kind of in Leclerc's shadow right now

[native breach]

Now that I think about it Sainz was never a #1 driver

In any team

Maybe Toro Rosso

[raw plaza]

man there are ppl who hate maxs driving but call Schumacher and senna the greatest

those ppl don’t know anything abt f1 💀💀💀

[cyan saffron]

Yeah, Schumi and Senna were the same.

[native breach]

I mean, very different eras tbh

The old customs of f1 meant that if your opponent could win in the last race you took them out

[raw plaza]

Doesn’t matter max Schumacher senna we’re all aggressive drivers

[native breach]

Now that causes DSQ's and deductions

Very different time

[raw plaza]

but like ppl who say senna and Schumacher driving are the best and call maxs driving the worst just don’t know anything

I’ve seen online all those hypocrites 😭😭💀💀

Oh well

maxs job is just to make sure lando doesn’t win

[tawny mason]

Same here. He's a top midfield driver at best. Then he overvalued himself thinking that'd be enough when even from day 1 of looking for a new drive, no top teams wanted him that much

[snow swan]

Maybe it was sarcasm

[south heron]

exactly

[raw plaza]

💀how are u and I supposed to know that even what i say can be sarcastic

[snow swan]

Well.. max is also aggressive

[snow swan]

I said maybe.

The tone mostly

[raw plaza]

I said max in that sentence

[snow swan]

Ohh I'm blind

[raw plaza]

How am I supposed to get the tone from an online text

[snow swan]

By reading it 😭

[zealous ginkgo]

u cant love schumacher if u hate max

[raw plaza]

Maybe u have some gift I don’t

[tawny mason]

Sainz might have gotten the Haas drive over Ocon had he not been stupid enough to reject them, especially considering Haas looks like a genuine midfield contender

[snow swan]

Nah maybe I'm just chronically online g

[raw plaza]

imo checo is a good driver it’s just red bull isn’t just working for him he used to perform so good at racing india

[native breach]

I fucking despise Schumi

[dawn zealot]

There've been a few super aggressive drivers. Quote from Toto here:

He has the ambition to always win, if possible, and brings with it the necessary aggressiveness. That takes a lot of courage. That it sometimes leads to collisions is part of his way of driving a F1 car. And with that he became a 4-time world champion and you have to recognize that."

He's talking about Vettel, but could just as easily be Max

[native breach]

He's a legend but the dirty driving is insane

[snow swan]

Ragebait

[native breach]

Nah i'm just a Senna fan

The guy's cool but the driving is shitty

[raw plaza]

Both of them hated at their domination era but later loved 💀💀💀

[snow swan]

I like your pfp

Btw

[tawny mason]

Hard to feel sympathy when he could have gotten a better drive by accepting from DAY 1 of looking for a new team that he was going back to the midfield.

[dawn zealot]

Not exactly a unique story, not even unique to F1

[raw plaza]

Sainz is out of championship fight

Gg

[dawn zealot]

Leclerc still has a chance!

[raw plaza]

Max aggression is helping Charles and Ferrari

[snow swan]

Sorry, when was he even in the fight?

[raw plaza]

Max is fan of ferrari always

[raw plaza]

I mean mathematically he was

[dawn zealot]

Yep, and Ferrari I think are going to be the biggest decider for whether it's Lando or Max that wins, so Max is more than happy to let them lead

[snow swan]

Everybody's a ferrari fan, even if they say they're not they are ferrari fans

Next year

[dawn zealot]

Imagine he goes to Ferrari and immediately wins WDC

Oh man

[snow swan]

Explains why I didn't understand, math is my biggest op

[raw plaza]

Imagine McLaren end up losing both of the championship while having the fastest car in the better half of the season will be the biggest bottle

[dawn zealot]

That is....absolutely, entirely possible XD

[snow swan]

I would like to see that happen ngl, turkey all over again

[dawn zealot]

Also since Oscar apparently forgot how to drive

[tawny mason]

Ferrari gets another 1-2 and a fastest lap and they might well be leading if McLaren are again weak

Er

[snow swan]

Just like me fr

[raw plaza]

120 points available so if top 4 don’t score any points and sainz wins all he can’t win wdc

[raw plaza]

Max just needs to do his job make sure lando doesn’t win

[snow swan]

Bro no point in explaining shit, I don't understand math

[tawny mason]

Yes.

[raw plaza]

What I didn’t even make it complicated

[snow swan]

I just don't get math lil bro

[dawn zealot]

Nah, but moves like at Mexico and Austin cost Lando a lot of time and energy fighting instead of working his way to the lead

[snow swan]

I stopped taking math last year I ain't gonna revisit it 🙏

That can get you muted

[dawn zealot]

The only math you need to know is that Charles still has a legitimate chance

[raw plaza]

💀💀

[snow swan]

Poor max

[raw plaza]

U made a table

[snow swan]

The fastest lap that says 0 hurt me

[dawn zealot]

I got tired of doing the math XD

[snow swan]

WHY EVEN DO MATH

[raw plaza]

Max should win 4th wdc and retire “we ball”

[dawn zealot]

So we know who wins in different scenarios

[snow swan]

Like rosberg?

[dawn zealot]

It's fun to see the possibilities

[raw plaza]

Yea

[snow swan]

Thank you for doing gods work btw, I would never. Not even over my dead body

Roles!

[raw plaza]

or max should just take a 2 year break and come back

[snow swan]

Bruh why?

[dawn zealot]

.getroles

[jade mural]

How to get roles:

Follow the image below to the left sidebar of Discord to open the roles page and choose which apply to you.

Alternatively, you can follow this link to the correct role channel: id:customize

[grizzled owl]

This is literally his prime

[raw plaza]

any team would want him back doesn’t matter if they had disagreements max will always bring results

[snow swan]

Exactly

Imagine you're cooking your answers and then you just stop writing

[raw plaza]

I want to see albon against sainz

[snow swan]

So you want max out of the grid? 😭

[raw plaza]

Was albon justified because he had 2 bad teammates or is he actually goood

[raw plaza]

Nah im just saying in 26 he can take a break and look at the fastest teams and he can just join them

[grizzled owl]

Nah red bull would finish with Haas without max

[dawn zealot]

I think Albon is a decent driver who had teammates that made him look very good

He's not bad by any means

[raw plaza]

Ngl James said the main goal is 26 so if Williams actually bring back to fighting for top position sainz move is justified

[grizzled owl]

Yes but i think albon deserves better then willams

[snow swan]

Multi year contracts and fluctuations exist

<@&781898349006684170> can I be muted for like 5ish hours because I have to study for my test which is in like 4 hours

[raw plaza]

apparently there is a clause that sainz can get into merc if any teammate underperforms so if George doesn’t perform and his contract ends at 25 sainz

????

[grizzled owl]

Learn self control bruh 😭😭🙏

[snow swan]

Shush

[raw plaza]

Hopefully it isn’t maths

[dawn zealot]

Improvise, adapt, overcome.
Even if it's yourself that you're overcoming XD

[snow swan]

I dropped it last year

[grizzled owl]

Wait what

[grizzled owl]

Lol

[raw plaza]

Just speculation nothing confirmed

[snow swan]

Veni vidi vici

[cyan saffron]

.mute 865595211107270686 4h good luck with your test, open a ticket if you want to get unmuted earlier

[jade mural]

bvbocon38 muted sooft.exe for 4 hours. Reason: good luck with your test, open a ticket if you want to get unmuted earlier

[toxic siren]

.mute @snow swan 5h Study mute. Open a ticket if you want to be unmuted earlier.

[jade mural]

terra.rose muted sooft.exe for 5 hours. Reason: Study mute. Open a ticket if you want to be unmuted earlier.

[grizzled owl]

You are a great human being

[toxic siren]

oh

[cyan saffron]

lol

[raw plaza]

Upgraded

[toxic siren]

I had to go back and change the time cause they asked for 5

[grizzled owl]

Just in case 😭🙏

[toxic siren]

so retyped it

[cyan saffron]

Oh, I haven't seen the edited message.

[quaint lily]

é brasil

mds

[ember stone]

after brazil theres another long wait

[plush pasture]

HERE IS BRASIL

[timber ledge]

Is jack plooij reliable? He said red bull offered 20m for colapinto

[stiff bough]

If it sounds unrealistic…

[remote knoll]

never trust someone with the last name Plooij

[craggy raven]

Lol

[jagged cloak]

pufferfish

[stable galleon]

Who do you guys think will win the Brazil weekend?

[stable galleon]

Perez already got an contract tho

Don’t he?

Someone said he got an contract for 2025 already

[stable galleon]

I’ve heard rumors about russel going to redbull for 2026

[stiff bough]

He does

[dawn zealot]

Based on rumors that contract has a performance clause in it

But who knows, honestly

[stable galleon]

Mhm

[dawn zealot]

Realistically I'm not sure why you'd put that in his, with the history he's had it's very evident the performance RB is getting

[hushed olive]

rain forecast for brazil

[subtle crest]

Ferrari dominance had to go to sh*t after all

[gentle verge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-iouvels-side-eye-awks-are-you-fr-gif-24422806

Huh

Not rain!

[stable galleon]

Nooo it’s gonna rain?

[gentle verge]

Shoot…

[errant kiln]

It’s been a while since a rain weekend

[dawn zealot]

Well that should be interesting

[echo urchin]

I literally had a dream about 15 mins sgo that Perez got dropped after mexico gp

is this a sign

[gentle verge]

Lmfao

Well they better hurry and make that announcement soon because they only have 2 days left till Brazil free practice

[west umbra]

https://youtu.be/_jMIULxyT4w?si=wAaMoQ3erFFTeU8m

Here The New Senna trailer movie

[formal pasture]

yay

[stiff venture]

The guy who was dating a 14 year old?

[azure galleon]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBteoTtx-nT/?igsh=MXQ1ODRxZ2MyZWhpNw==

foconamiguelyunes

Eles chegaram! Uma frota enorme de caminhões com equipamentos e carros de corrida para o GP acabaram de passar pela Marginal Pinheiros

A 21ª etapa da temporada ocorre no Autódromo de Interlagos, em São Paulo, entre os dias 1º e 3 de novembro

#gp #gpbrasil #gpbrasilf1 #formula1 #autódromo

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The F1 trucks arriving in São Paulo

Sorry for the vid in Portuguese but she’s complaining that they’ve been stopped for over half an hour

[vernal holly]

https://fxtwitter.com/f1reaks/status/1851361891383161259

[native breach]

Brazil meteorology is not a good thing to base yourself on, that being said, mclaren senna win

[gentle verge]

Yeah I have no idea I mean the weather barely stays consistent day to day here and half the time it’s wrong

💀

[queen orbit]

realistically both max and lando need multiple dnfs for this to practically happen

[dawn zealot]

What? No, it says right there

Though a DNF or two from either would certainly make it easier

[polar creek]

The only math u need 2 know is ur biased for Leclerc

[queen orbit]

i said the word realistically and practically

[nimble sinew]

Welcome to Brazil everyone

It’s a shame Vini did’nt win the Ballon Dor

But I hope the F1 Brazil race cheers the F1 Brazilian fans up

[winged dagger]

when do u guys think hamilton will retire?

[dawn zealot]

2-3 more years at least

He's doing well enough, moving to a team that's likely to perform well next year. Basically just vibing even if he isn't contending for WDC

I do hope to see him and Max fighting at the front again though

[stiff venture]

Yeah they will fight for p3 while chuck and piastri fight for p1

[exotic egret]

i hope max can win this gp

[remote knoll]

I hope Max doesn't commit a war crime against Lando

[winged dagger]

yep i think leclerc will do better overall next year but we might see him with a few wins next year

[winged dagger]

mainly bc he will probably crash hamilton in quali

young leclerc did beat 2019 vettel in quali crazy

[worthy wadi]

Guys kmag pole incoming

i can feel it

gonna be an almost exact repeat of 2022

except this time hes going to win

[winged dagger]

kmag did pull some great quali stints

[worthy wadi]

hes gonna cook everyone

have faith

[winged dagger]

and he demolished mick despite taking a year off f1

[worthy wadi]

mick p20 kmag p1 in 2022

qualifying

[winged dagger]

reminder kmag took a year off f1!!

[worthy wadi]

same thing hes going to do next year if he cant get a seat

than come back and get his first race win

trust

[winged dagger]

he’ll alr be 34 by 2026

but hulkenberg took 2 years off

[worthy wadi]

one of the young ones

[winged dagger]

and came back at 36

sooo

[worthy wadi]

kmag p1 incoming!!!!

the goat

[winged dagger]

i love to see kmag as a reserve driver for haas next year

same role that hulk did in racing point

/ aston martin

[worthy wadi]

kmags gonna drive at stake next year

have faith

kmag hulk reunion

[winged dagger]

they prob will resign bottas or get bortoleto

colapinto confirmed out

[wet sequoia]

Source on this?

[worthy wadi]

really?

[winged dagger]

“i wont be having a seat in f1 next year”

[wet sequoia]

That’s along the same lines as Perez saying “I will 100% be driving in Mexico next year”

[worthy wadi]

idk how reliable this is
https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-i-dont-have-seat-for-next-year-franco-colapinto-denies-red-bull-links/

says nothing about stake tho

[stiff venture]

They just need to swap out albon next year

[remote knoll]

Yea he said this in the post-race interview

[winged dagger]

albon’s been a fraud so far after baku

he had a good quali in mexico

but williams want to keep the lineup tho

good lineup at the end of the day

[stiff venture]

I think they might start changing their tune. He is not only performing on track but he is quickly becoming a star. With sainz and colapinto Williams could become the #1 team in Latin America and Hispanic countries. Money talks. Ask Perez.

[winged dagger]

then Albon in Sauber

Or just axed

tbh

[stiff venture]

Yeah, no need for him in the current grid

[winged dagger]

not like he is some A tier driver tbh

I’d be more sad if someone like Hulkenburg is not on the grid next year

[ionic temple]

https://youtu.be/_jMIULxyT4w

https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-jalen-hurts-meek-mill-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-13709870523385828441

[regal needle]

They will have a Full English Dub as well for this Series

And Good Morning Team!

[snow swan]

[sonic epoch]

Tbf tho he was unlucky since Singapore

He was never outqualified for the actual race

He's only been ass on sprint qualifying

[grizzled owl]

OMG YES

[winged dagger]

but i’m okay with colapinto replacing him next szn. imagine the sponsors and it’s not like albon’s an A tier driver

and we’ve seen how good colapinto is

could expand to the latin market

w two spanish speaking drivers

[last zinc]

albon isnt rlly that good anyways imo, colapinto has more potential then him

[winged dagger]

i mean there are those who deserves seats less than him

but yeah he isnt A tier

pretty mid tier imo

[stiff bough]

Does Colapinto have more potential?

How do we know he's not already near his ceiling?

[winged dagger]

exactly it’s pretty hard to decide

like a few montts before we all thought he was a regular F2 driver and won’t succeed in F1

[wet sequoia]

Could be a case of the right driver in the wrong car for F2

Despite all being identical setup changes are a thing

[winged dagger]

yeah like the PREMA drivers

[wet sequoia]

Who are both in F1 next year

[grim egret]

so it doesnt really matter if you are dominating in f2 or behind the pack

[wet sequoia]

That’s a tricky one

On one hand you have drivers like Leclerc, Piastri and Russell who win F2 and drive like they belong in F1

On the other hand you have Schumacher and De Vries who have bombed out, Drugovich on the sidelines and Pourchaire who probably won’t ever get on the grid

Then we have Colapinto who is challenging Albon and then some, Bearman/Kimi who are no way winning but signed for next year

Clearly over the last few years there are other factors to consider besides winning F2 that get you into a F1 seat

[grim egret]

1 factor is money

kimi and bearman have money

and both have seats for 25

colapinto doesnt and he said he is not in 25 will try something for 25 then hustle for a seat 26

bortolleto did a last to first and still people are not mentioning his name

I will be heatbroken if bottas gets a seat over him

[wet sequoia]

Bortoleto is rumoured to the Audi seat if he wins F2, he won F3 in his first year and potentially winning F2 in his first year (Like Piastri)

[grim egret]

im fully behind him

[wet sequoia]

Money plays a factor but you still require super license points to race F1

[grim egret]

but being brazilian doesnt help you

[wet sequoia]

You can’t fully buy a seat like you used to

[grim egret]

you need money and atleast european

[grim egret]

antonelli did

[winged dagger]

like drugovich basically

[wet sequoia]

I’m not saying he got it free of charge

[winged dagger]

but drugovich is more bc of stroll

lawrence stroll

[wet sequoia]

But he has won championships

[stiff bough]

i dont think antonelli bought his f1 seat

[wet sequoia]

And between light testing for Mercedes and driving F2 he’s what, 6th in his first year?

[winged dagger]

but we also have vesti on the sidelines for merc

vesti came close in 2023

iirc?

right

[winged dagger]

to winning f2

[wet sequoia]

How many years did Vesti race F2?

[winged dagger]

2?

[wet sequoia]

Hmm, sounds like a case of Toto found a new toy he wants over his current one

[winged dagger]

will franco have an f2 seat next year or he cant anymore

[wet sequoia]

Possibly

He has a very slim chance at Audi

But I don’t think he wants it

[stiff bough]

Vesti was never really focused on, I don't think they thought very highly of him

[wet sequoia]

I’m guessing he didn’t really have generational talent

[stiff bough]

Besides which, he managed to lose the F2 title with 6 feature race wins to Theo Pourchaire, who only won one, in Bahrain

[wet sequoia]

Yeah that sounds like a consistency issue

[stiff bough]

a large portion of it was

some bad luck sprinkled here and there

[winged dagger]

but yeah

kimi does seem to have a lot of potential. we’ve seen him in monza before he crashed

but i think george will still destroy him in quali

[winged dagger]

but i think he will do…alright in his first szn

not too bad

but not lewis

[wet sequoia]

I don’t expect Kimi to beat Russell until 2027

If Russell remains that long

[winged dagger]

might be a Russell Max switch in 2026 tbh

[wet sequoia]

Who knows

Max will probably walk by then because the FIA keeps getting cranky with him

[winged dagger]

when is the earliest Max will retire

i think not earlier than 2026

[wet sequoia]

He can retire whenever he wants

He could retire after this year if he loses F1 and he feels like it

[winged dagger]

yeah he might call it quits after winning a 4th title

[wet sequoia]

He can retire after Brazil if he gets another stupid penalty

Well that last one is a stretch

[grim egret]

that

[grim egret]

in good reason

they let him of the hook in austin he should be thankfull

[neon tundra]

did they wait for brazil for this

[storm rock]

Hello

Who will win the Championship?

[stiff bough]

verstappen

[storm rock]

fair

[ancient gulch]

me

[winged dagger]

nicholas latifi

[rotund torrent]

nikita mazepig

[storm rock]

no, not that groping pig

pls no

[worthy salmon]

Lando nestapen

[storm rock]

Maxes Lecstapperc

[winged dagger]

lewes hamlecstapendo

[storm rock]

Maxis Hamstappen

[proven leaf]

I guess it ain't wet sessions anymore

[fossil goblet]

GUYS GUYS GUYS

I found this somewhere

Is this real?????

I thought it was gonna be seb?

[astral orbit]

Seb did it at Imola

[fossil goblet]

I thought he'd be doing it again

[astral orbit]

Lewis will do it at Interlagos?

[fossil goblet]

I don't knoww

I hope so, But why does this sound fake?

I found this randomly in a server and was confused

I tried searching but I found nothing

[astral orbit]

Damn

Prolly just a rumor

[fossil goblet]

Ig

But I hope he gets to drive Senna's Mclaren

That would mean soo much to lewis

[quartz lintel]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[fossil heron]

Funny bit of trivia, if lando does not win the sprint on Saturday, lando has to beat max on points, as it would be impossible for lando to win on count back

[fossil goblet]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBu_0gLNqqq/?igsh=YzljYTk1ODg3Zg==

lewishamiltontowin

Lewis Hamilton is to drive Ayrton Senna’s iconic McLaren this weekend! 💛💚💙

He will be driving the iconic 1990 McLaren MP4/5B in a tribute lap on Saturday at 5 pm local time, marking 30 years since Senna’s passing.

However this is not Lewis’ first time in one of Senna’s car. In 2010, he was invited by Top Gear who provided him the opportunity t...

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It has to be true now

This would mean soo much to lewis

Sooo happy for him

[cold solar]

dayummmmm

[zinc saffron]

I cant believe I have to see "ferrari fans" supporting lewis from next season
I am devastated...

[fossil goblet]

What's wrong wit that?

I've been a Ferrari and lewis fan since the day I started watching

(more of a Lewis fan)

[zinc saffron]

everything... but cant do shit when merc is doin shit... I hope he just wins everything there nd dont get the ferrari treatment

[fossil goblet]

I hope he wins too

Ferrari hasn't been very good for the drivers who there near the end of their careers 😭

"graveyard of champions"

But I'm positive

[zinc saffron]

no way in my life I thought I'll be wishing that ferrari should get better nd start performing

[cold solar]

what if i already supported ferrari in the first place

[zinc saffron]

😭

[cold solar]

its just a combination yk

[fossil goblet]

Me too lol

Lewis has always been my favourite and Ferrari is my favourite constructors

[zinc saffron]

I am just a lewis nd merc fan

[cold solar]

yh

[zinc saffron]

ferrari is opps

[cold solar]

im gonna keep supporing merc tho cuz george crashing constantly is kinda amusing

[fossil goblet]

😂

[cold solar]

also cuz toto funny faces

[zinc saffron]

I want kimi to take that tractor to weekly podiums

[cold solar]

oh yeah i forgot about kimi

[fossil goblet]

The crashes have affected their cost cap so we might not see any upgrades from them (not that we would anyways but yk, if they have to fix something in the car rn)

[cold solar]

yeah im excited to see him race

[zinc saffron]

goatenolli

[fossil goblet]

I am a big Kimi glazer 😭

I fought in like 2-3 servers when he crashed in Monza FP1

[zinc saffron]

people hatin for no reason

[fossil goblet]

Wasn't his fault tbh, merc put him out on softer rubber first

[zinc saffron]

the new hobby

[fossil goblet]

And he made a rookie mistake

Downshifting at high speed at parbolica

Small mistake big consequence

[flint anvil]

Antonelli gonna do wonders in Mercedes

[fossil goblet]

Even experienced drivers like Kmag crashed or went off

[fossil goblet]

True

He's like those generational talents you get once in a long while

If he wins a race in his first 2-3 (i think it was 2) races with merc he'll be the youngest gp winner

[zinc saffron]

safety car did the exact same thing the day before

[fossil goblet]

Yea

The track was resurfaced and it was tricky

Kimi made a small mistake with a big consequence

But the few minutes he participated in that session, you could see he has the raw speed and talent

The way he attacked every corner like he was on a quali lap

[chrome cradle]

hm

[zinc saffron]

alonso?! 🙀

[queen orbit]

its one mistake, the consequences are not that insane

[small steppe]

crashing in FP happens every time

[crisp mason]

how old is he?

max was 18 and 228 days old when he won his first race

[fossil goblet]

18

He got 18 in August

Ig

[crisp mason]

yep. cos that max verstappen.

ai overview on google is crazy!

[fossil goblet]

Fr 😂

[crisp mason]

so if kimi wins in the first few races he will be the youngest

but i dont think he will

aston will be fast with newey

nando has chance for 3rd wdc if he doesnt fuck it

[fossil goblet]

First 2 races

[fossil goblet]

They won't be fast so soon

Imo

It'll take time, it's not just about newey.. it's about the whole team

[crisp mason]

nah i reckon newey already working on the car

i think its why redbull has been slower, they havent had good upgrades from him

[fossil goblet]

I think they'll be top 6 in 2025 and then in top 3 by 2027

[crisp mason]

cos they prob shut him off from the developments

[fossil goblet]

Maybe championship contenders by 2028

[crisp mason]

nah i reckon top 3 by new regs

[fossil goblet]

Red Bull? Yea they did

[fossil goblet]

Let's see

[crisp mason]

redbull was number 1 in new regs cos of newey

[fossil goblet]

Aston is a prime example of that throwing money at a problem can't solve it

There are a lot of people thinking that newey will have a very quick impact but it doesn't work like that

[crisp mason]

aston is a prime example of why you dont let a father own a team with his son in the team.

[fossil goblet]

It takes years to build a team a lot of members, not just one person

[fossil goblet]

That's true 😂

[crisp mason]

stroll needs to go.

[fossil goblet]

He does.

[crisp mason]

the aston point deficit is worse than vcarb

atleast daniel was only 10 points behind

stroll is almost 40 behind

[pseudo bay]

did yall heard about what car lewis is going to drive?

[crisp mason]

the ferrari?

[lavish ore]

senna

[crisp mason]

like mclaren senna or sennas car?

[pseudo bay]

Sennas car rip 30 years dead

[crisp mason]

in brazil?

[lavish ore]

he got chosen to drive senna's car on saturday

yes

[crisp mason]

oh shit

what time?

[pseudo bay]

ye

[lavish ore]

gonna be a special weekend for us

5pm

[crisp mason]

MP4/4?

[crisp mason]

timezone?

[lavish ore]

presumably

local

[crisp mason]

yea what timezone is that

idk what timezone brazil is on

[lavish ore]

brazil time

[crisp mason]

...

brother.

[lavish ore]

i think 4 hours behind uk time

[pseudo bay]

wru from

[crisp mason]

australia

is brazil just EST?

[pseudo bay]

then it's Friday

[echo urchin]

I dont think its mp4/4

[pseudo bay]

[crisp mason]

maybe his williams?

[echo urchin]

Its something along the lines of mp4/5b

[crisp mason]

oh

[lavish ore]

one hour ahead of est

[echo urchin]

i think

[crisp mason]

ngl would have thought itd be the car he died in

[crisp mason]

ok so 4am my time

on sunday

[lavish ore]

well that car isn't really in great shape anymore

[crisp mason]

oh i thought they would have fixed it

[remote knoll]

brrrrrrrt

[crisp mason]

but ig preserve it for museum?

[lavish ore]

no idea honestly but idk how i'd feel about it being driven around, kinda his car you know

[crisp mason]

thanks

[crisp mason]

i mean laudas car was driven by charles

[buoyant tapir]

nw

[lavish ore]

fair point

[crisp mason]

wasnt that the one lauda crashed at nbr?

or was it his championship car

[lavish ore]

i know they've got his MP4/4 here in london but they've got others they'd probably rather use

[lavish ore]

yes

i think it was

[crisp mason]

the williams senna crashed was the fw45 right

[lavish ore]

don't recall off the top of my head

[crisp mason]

lemme check

[remote knoll]

why do i feel like the fw45 was from 2 years ago

[crisp mason]

😭

definitely was not

ah, FW16

[remote knoll]

the fw45 was the 2023 car 💀

Senna time traveller?

[crisp mason]

oh wait it was

im dumb 😭

[remote knoll]

only a few years off

[crisp mason]

honestly i do not keep up with the names of the williams cars

only really redbull, merc and mclaren

ferrari is all over the place so its hard to keep track

[remote knoll]

i can't keep up with McLaren

[crisp mason]

MCL40 no?

[remote knoll]

What car is this? the mcl60?

ah hell naw 😭

[crisp mason]

its the MCL38

60 was last year

[remote knoll]

right

[crisp mason]

yea ngl that is all over the place too.

but i think 2023 was their 60th year as a car brand no?

[remote knoll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

maybe

[crisp mason]

yea 1963

was when mclaren was founded

but 38 years in f1

ok so yea their name isnt all over the name, just did a special name for 60 years as a brand

[remote knoll]

yeah better than Ferrari

[crisp mason]

like

[remote knoll]

Ferrari has a whole lotta morse code and ancient languages in their names

[crisp mason]

STICK WITH A NAME FORMAT

fuckin

f2004

sf1000

sf75

why sf1000???

[remote knoll]

F175

[crisp mason]

yea

[remote knoll]

becauseeeeeee

um

1000th race

[crisp mason]

the first race of the season was?

[remote knoll]

tuscan gp

[crisp mason]

that was 2020 right

[remote knoll]

yea

[crisp mason]

mercedes and rb are the only 2 teams with consistent names.

[cyan saffron]

The 1st race in 2020 was Austria.

[crisp mason]

nah i meant for their 1000th race

[cyan saffron]

But Tuscany was the 1000th for Ferrari, which is the reason for the car name.

[crisp mason]

mhmmm

[cyan saffron]

The SF75 was because of Ferrari's 75th year in F1.

[crisp mason]

why cant all the teams just be like mclaren

[remote knoll]

Literally

[crisp mason]

not mclaren.

why tf did i say mclaren

why cant they be like mercedes and redbull.

keep the names consistent

if they did that, they wouldnt need special names for milestones IN THE SPORT

like this year was mercedes 15th year as a constructor right

and redbulls 20th

[remote knoll]

I think next year will be their 15th

[crisp mason]

was the car not the w15 this year?

[remote knoll]

Yea

[crisp mason]

yea so 15 years no?

[remote knoll]

but Mercedes came back in 2010

[crisp mason]

hmm

[remote knoll]

wait

that is 15 years

counting 2010

[crisp mason]

😭 yea

i forgor that

man. numbers are weird huh

[remote knoll]

yes

[crisp mason]

cos its same for redbull, only they went from minardi to redbull in 2005

(year i was born 🙏)

that means i basically made redbull happen

[remote knoll]

😎

[crisp mason]

im goated ig

im the reason 7 wdc have been won by them

more than likely about to be 8 😔

who debuted in 2005?

[remote knoll]

No one important

[crisp mason]

man

who was it

WAIT

IM THE REASON NANDO WON 2005 COS I WAS BORN

PRAISE BE!

[remote knoll]

lmao

[crisp mason]

thats crazy.

nando alpine 2005 is wild!

(ik ik renault is alpine)

[crisp mason]

woah woah woah fisichella and luizzi were important no?

i mean p6 in debut season for fisichella is pretty damn good id say

[floral rose]

colapinto race winner

imagine

[crisp mason]

wont happen in a willy

but maybe 2026 changes stuff

but maybe he could go to mercedes for 2026 if george massively underperforms

lawson overrated, doesnt even have a bot yet for standings 🥱

[pseudo quail]

Nah colapintos not replacing George they need George to be a Ricciardo till antonelli can get some experience

[crisp mason]

yea thats why i said maybe, its superrrr slim chances

insanely unlikely to happen

[pseudo quail]

Maybe redbull

[crisp mason]

but it still can, anything is possible

doubt theyll take him

redbull dont do well with rookies

[pseudo quail]

They were said to have offered

[crisp mason]

i assume thats if they drop checo

[pseudo quail]

But Williams only wanted a loan

[crisp mason]

dropping logan was def the right move

[pseudo quail]

Well yes it seems almost guaranteed he’ll be dropped but redbull is struggling to find replacements

[crisp mason]

take lawson put hadjar in vcarb

or do what most ppl have said

daniel and if he underperforms then lawson

[remote knoll]

i uh

idk

[crisp mason]

p6 debut season is pretty insane

albeit in a renault, still amazing for a rookie

[pseudo quail]

Lawson’s not doing himself any good with the last two races. It’s becoming a bit of a tsunoda situation where he’s good but causing drama with other drivers or being too aggressive

[crisp mason]

yea

atleast daniel wasnt being like that

he wasnt taking massive risks

and was still getting vital points and taking points from others such as singapore.

if lawson doesnt score points i boycott vcarb

[hushed thistle]

Yuki is just too good i think

[crisp mason]

yuki isnt that good

i kinda think he gets overrated

cos of daniel

[spare glacier]

Tsunoda has made some real progress in his time in F1, he's peformed really well against several teammates.

[crisp mason]

gasly has won. yuki hasnt.

and hes only had 3 teammates, lawson barely

and daniel outscored him last year with 1 race, lawson that is

[spare glacier]

So? Getting multiple strong points finishes is much more than a single win. The title of 'race winner' massively overrates drivers, particularly if they've only won once. Obviously you need to be at a certain level to be able to pick up the pieces but Pierre was still very lucky.

[crisp mason]

yuki hasnt even been on the podium

[spare glacier]

Driver who's been in the sport over ten years and won races manages to get one points finish in seventh, against a complete rookie who managed ninth at the most challenging track on the calendar, which he's never driven before. Not that impressive.

[spare glacier]

How many teammates does a driver need to be fully evaluated?

[crisp mason]

lawson barely counts as a teammate as hes only done what? 7 races?

nyck was half a season

and was god awful

and daniels had about 2/3rds of a season with him

so really only 1 teammate actually

[spare glacier]

So Colapinto against Albon right now isn't a realistic comparison?

How long are we supposed to give drivers?

[crisp mason]

if they do a full season together its a fair comparison

[spare glacier]

De Vries wasn't too bad, the AT in 2023 was a terrible car, remember he scored in Monza 2022.

[crisp mason]

he was bad enough for him to be replaced lol

[spare glacier]

Tsunoda has beaten/is beating three teammates, and was pretty much matching Gasly by the end of their time together.

[crisp mason]

i wouldnt say beaten all 3

[spare glacier]

He wasn't good obviously, but given more time he might have done better

[crisp mason]

i honestly doubt it

he was 28 right?

way too young to be starting in f1

old*

[spare glacier]

I would

[crisp mason]

again, last year, not a fair comparison

yuki raced the whole season

this year, same scenario

he hasnt had a teammate stay the whole year since 2022

[spare glacier]

Ricciardo was 'bad enough to be replaced' in your words, he wouldn't have been replaced if he wasn't being clearly beaten by Yuki (he was)