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That peaceful image the Reddit loves.
glad rheyre allg
i love ayao komarsu (komatsu)
even tho he is sponsoring williams (joke)
komarsu
his new name
k will let you know when i get the chance
guenther is trying to overthrow him
Who's Komarsu? I only know Komatsu.
he changed his name so everyone stopped asking him why he sponsors his rival
haas is prob the best midfield car rn
agreed
what hits harder: monaco anthem in monaco or italian anthem in monza
vcarb used to be the best but they copied and pasted red bull too literally
italian in monza has more heart but monaco is more heartfelt if ykwim
idk how to word it
real
they also put jeans on their car
Mexican national anthem in miami
😭
Iykyk
YES
they should put yuki on the podium for no reason in brazil
Winning constructor: Red Bull
Yuki appears
i have a feelinf rbr wont announce a driver till after the season abu dhabi testinf
actually red bull's secret to max winning the title is putting yuki in the red bull. here's why:
- Lando is afraid of fish
- Yuki likes sushi
- Sushi has raw fish
- Lando refused to eat sushi with Carlos because it was near a fish
- Yuki brings sushi to the race
I just saw on YT ferrari singing the national anthem i won't lie pretty loud
Next race strategy for max
ofc
heart and soul into that anthem
Fish livery
they're also feeding taco bell to the rb20
horner also is forcing checo to raise money to pay for his car
no way 😭😭
sure
not real btw
i figured
He is afraid of the cartels
but still funny to think about
I like to recall back when Charles Leclerc Middlefinger Checo in Austria 2021 when he gets pushed off the Track
Charles: What a Dickhead 🖕🏻
Max: HORNERRRRRRRRRR, can we have a special livery pls pls pls pls pls
Horner: Okay. opens wallet
[Empty wallet.]
Checo: H-
Horner: [get out sound effect]
guys im not a formula 1 expert, so can someone tell me if my assumption that verstappen is more aggressive towards norris in each and every race to defend his title is true?
checo is not favored 💀
yh defo but from the other sports I watched not the loudest though but still pretty loud
Now it's Liam who Middlefinger Checo 😂
max is aggressive in general
ngl idk who i'm more scared of: checo's fanbase or
or….
but this year there have been multiple instances where verstappen has forced norris off the track
or!
max is an aggressive driver and he will be more aggressive when fighting for a championship. it's not a lando issue
the cartels
😔😔
like i think liam lawson will be on a no fly list in mexico soon
i mean title is defo into it, but its more whoever poses the biggest threat at the time he’ll go after imo
why would that happen
he overtook checo and flipped him off
you really think they care that much
Charles wasnt in the no fly list last year, so Lawson wouldnt as well 
they legit don't care
tbf that was on checo 😭
And this was on Checo as well
tsk tsk
he rly said he needed to go big or go home
i just want to see him do that but failing at doing it
Even the president of Mexico gp said hes not worried about whether Checo will continue to stay in the sport
Lawson might actually replace Checo tho
so
👀
he has been penalised correctly for all of them that were against the rules
i mean u saw maxs +20sec penalties today
20 s is bogus come on
i mean when he does it again
More often than not the guy playing Max’s games comes off of it worse
ngl checo is only going if either lawson or tsunoda blow some minds away either on track or on tests.
colapinto will most likely go to vcarb if rbr acquifes him
He dont give a shit
yeah
adding to the fire
He'll have a drink in the pitstop 😭
Why go for Colapinto when Hadjar exists
while counting his money
and why would Williams let go of colapinto
if they want to capitalize on lat am fanbase, then colapinto makes sense
already proven himself in an f1 car
Williams seat r full right..
So?
williams is full for 2025 beyond and franco wants a seat
yeah true
Hadjar is a redbull academy driver, makes sense to get him into the junior team
plus franco proved himself in an F1 car
I dont think colapinto would stay as a junior driver
Yeah well Franco has a contract with Williams
So it’s up to Williams whether or not they cut him loose
i could also see them wanting to go for franco to rbr eventually to replace checo bc that capitalizes on checo/lat am fanbase
till the end of the year mate
How do you know how long his contract is?
vowles said he would help franco get a seat in f1
He still deserves a seat whatsoever
i dont have anything against max, almost everyone in my family supports him. but i dont agree with his defending style of forcing drivers off this season
cuz they said what
franco could come back in if sainz goes to merc or smth
It's the end of the eywr
Redbull dont care much about whether a driver brings more popularity to a certain driver 
its not a new thing, its js how he is
they care abt money...
No, I’m pretty sure they said he’s racing for the rest of the year in the car, not that his contract ends this year
He is clever that's all
max has alaways been like this since 2021
Not that much till the extent that they will go bankrupt not having a driver from latin america
i think franco said he remains a WDA member but his f1 contract is up in 2024
and he could go back to F2
Franco rn is like Lawson last year
but i don't see why he would
yeah exactly
also doesn't lawson not have a contract for next year officially
So makes sense that Williams will make Franco their reserve driver
Williams could loan him to VCARB or another team, but I do not think he’ll be cut loose
Then find him a seat for 2026
wait does williams have a reserve rn
Yes
Would Franco like to stay as a reservk tho
Waste of talent tbf
ik lawson was rumored to go to williams before colapinto went in the seat
There was even a rumor that Antonelli will replace Logan after Imola
but it fell thru if it was gonna happen
That obv did not happen
Isn't sainz and Williams alr confirmed?
does he really get a choice as long as he’s contracted?
mick schumacher comes back to f1
yeah lol
If only Williams replaced Logan sooner
The only avaliable seat rn is Sauber
and williams
Sauber seat...
and the sauber seat is either for bottas or someone else
All of them depend on whether or not he gets loaned out
What the fuck is a kilometre
i'm interested in seeing bearman/ocon
Ocon?
Which, based on what I’ve heard with Sauber, they don’t want strings attached with their next signing
if williams lets him go, they'll likely loan him out with the condition that if smth happens to alex or carlos he needs to come back
RB seat is available isn't it , I mean it's going to Lawson but it's not official yet for next year?
haas lineup is bearman/ocon
But I can’t see a team agreeing to that, because they gain nothing
exactly
They get a driver but at a moments notice they can get fucked over
U also have bortolleto remeber
^
He might get Sauber too
idk who's in the running for sauber besides bottas
hell nah i just saw liam lawson giving perez the finger 😂
Could, but same thing as Colapinto
He is playing with his life
Trust me
chadwick i think
there's technically three seats up for grabs (RBR, VCARB, and Sauber), but sauber is the only one where anyone could be going in
Only difference is Bortoleto has never driven an F1 car
And won’t drive one until winter with McLaren
U have the testing which ll be for 9 days..
RBR and VCARB will be filled by someone currently on the existing RBR/VCARB lineups and will be filled prob within RBJT
so e.g.
Lawson to RBR, Hadjar to VCARB
Also pretty sure he's been on the sims
i think he has
No PLS NO NOT LAWSON
I SAID AS AN EXAMPLE
But you’d be taking a shot in the dark and not knowing the result until he drives an F1 car. He doesn’t have until winter for Sauber to decide on a driver, he has until mid next month at the latest
the likely scenarios for RBR 25 are keep perez or put lawson in tbh
If he touches max istg
as much as i love yuki, he's not gettjng that seat
True but do they have a choice ?
The influx is crazy
Yes, they do
Like?
Bottas can be re-signed, and if need be, there is always Pourchaire who’s already impressed McLaren in IndyCar, and has done FP1s/tests with Sauber
Only problem is that Pourchaire for some reason isn’t being given opportunities by Sauber
not bottas
I’d put my money on it being Bottas
It might be bottas.
they literally gave both fp rookie tests to fucking shwartzman
when pourchaire is their ACTUAL academy member
and i doubt shwartzman would be going to F1 bc his wec career is pretty ok
He’s not in WEC for next year
wait rly? not even on #83?
Damon Hill is gonna be at Sao Paulo this Week with Sky Sports F1
Unsure if he will do Commentary with Crofty, Martin and Ted Kravitz
Sauber seat won't be announced till February
Pretty sure he's left the #83 because he's soon to be announced ™️ with Prema in Indy
my prediction
oh ok
They probably announced it in December
Something feels Different here between Real and the Filming of Brad Pitt F1 because Sonny Hayes wins the Mexico City Grand Prix https://x.com/expensifyapxgp/status/1850657147153162745?t=ZlOWHSj5hoU2tgFsKwXawA&s=19
I'd say it's not Affected the Real Life yesterday's Race because they only Filming for the Film
hows this account not banned yet for impersonation
No Idea
They still filmed the Film
Until Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
It's because Brad and the Cast hasn't finish anything since Last Year Actors Strike
i cant wait to not have to see anything about this movie ever again
i am a massive expensify hater
Perhaps why EA also is part of the Sponsors of APXGP, I think they will drop the Team in F1 25 as well
UGHHHHHHH
I remember like, They get involved too
Note: Drivers are arranged in tiers and within the tiers in order of strength. Drivers listed as slashed pairs are about equal strength in rating.
S: Verstappen (leading WDC despite shitty RB20), Leclerc (despite slump, his best season)
A: Hulkenberg (overperforming the Haas), Norris, Russell/Sainz (equals), Piastri
B: Colapinto, Hamilton, Tsunoda, Albon/Bearman, Alonso, Bottas (borderline - limited by car)
C: Ocon (could be a weak B - he is beter than Gasly but hard to say by how much), Gasly, Magnussen/Lawson, Perez/Ricciardo/Stroll
D: Zhou/Sargeant
@livid cobalt @unreal folio opinions
Strength is defined as my confidence in my ranking.
EA Sports, It's in the Film
honestly
i dont think i mind them being in f1 25
i just cant wait to be free of the shitty marketing
and the name expensify pisses me off
They'll be dropped alongside the returning Braking Point Characters maybe
(i'm cranky cuz my caffeine is wearing off)
They should use Different Sponsors somehow
Rather than Expensify
Let's stick to Drive to Survive shall we? Next February 2025, It will be arrived
Can't wait for Lewis Hamilton sign for Ferrari Episode 😁
haas 40 points off P5 we couldn’t could we
Max's 20s penalty was purely for the Norris fans
The penalty was deserved but 20s was bogus
it shouldve been 5s + 5s
agreed penalty was fine but 10s each is stupidity
y
10s shouldve been total
Yup
They gave 10 for turn 8 and 10 for turn 10
5s per is not the standard penalty for those infringements
Which should've been 5 each
T4*
Yup yup
then why did lando get only 5s for advantage last time?
5s is the penalty...
lando gets 5s and it becomes a meme and now Verstappen gets double?
Because of mitigating circumstances, being that he had no alternative line to take with Verstappen having also left the track.
I think this time it was more dangerous?
read the sporting regs :)
Max has 6 Points Penalty now
ive just rewatched the race rn, its incredible how verstappen thinks that this is how racing works
And I still don't understand the gaining position off track pen
He never had a Race Ban before
so 20s is perfectly fine for Verstappen but Norris guys crying for just 5s, makes sense
Last Time was Kevin Magnussen who got a Race Ban
it was deserved but 10s each is insane
What about the perez incident then ? That's inconsistent for the fia then..
True
max has been looking controlled in racing for so long, the moves yesterday were highly deserved
exactly
It is inconsistent, and Perez should've been penalized for forcing Stroll off.
Also should have been penalized for causing a collision with Lawson
such dangerous and unfair moves without these penalties would be insane
That's the point
so exactly what we were saying FIA is on drugs
Whats the point of reading the rulebook
But them being inconsistent doesn't make Verstappen's penalties less justified
If it's that incident
No it doesn't
as a Max supporter i agree the penalties, both of them were deserved but the amount of them was wayyyyyyyy to much
Well blame the drivers. They called for harsher penalties last year, and got them this year
Yap. And also the last weeks one on Norris were fine
i mean it probably cost another driver a victory
yeah 5s is enough
All I'm saying is atleast be consistent with the penalties so the drivers know what they dealing with
and especially the second move, where lando lifted to let max through but max STILL decided to push lando so far out he was out of track himself
max shouldve gotten 2, 5s penalties
like especially in the second case, what was max even trying
And I'm not insisting only for max
Maximum 15s
You'll need a permanent stewarding team before you get consistency like that.
What lawson did to Alonso should also be penalized
In Austin
Yup
why so he served his 20s penalty
If there were mitigating circumstances at play, sure. But otherwise the standard penalty is 10s for both infringements
i just wonder what verstappens mission was in the second case
No Idea
its so unbelievable weird and dangerous
I see it a bit like lambiase. The first 10s were fine but the others were too much. I see the point of the fia and i can argue for them but cmon
He just has a fucking slow car and under pressure
And a teammate like perez
I can only think of retaliation, which would make it even worse
There was 0 attempt to make that corner.
FIA is the most weird, non-logical thing i have ever seen
so youd say it was more of a mistake than a planned move?
Desperation is more of the word
i mean we had that in austria already
Because part of getting a penalty for certain infringements means points on your license
He wants to extract every bit of the car
Short fuse mby
where max pushed lando in the grass after the crash
nahhhh Carlos Leclerc💀🙏
Anything that gets classified as being erratic/dangerous = points on license
charlos leainz
You Mash-Up his Face
Why does that look like the Canadian president
yup
Fanfics are already in the works for the guy
HELP ME I GOTTA SEARCH HIM UP
and thats fair
WHAT 😭
i dont see it what 😭
F1 fanfics are FAST
Oops prime minister mb
They write them about everyone
Justin Trudeau
fanfics r crazy
HAAS IN p6 YEAHHHH
constructors is gonna be Ferrari
Agree
Bro💀
They are cooking
Damn
ya i deleted it😀
Given the volume of fanfics
i hate fanfics ngl some of them are literally mpreg about teenagers
It was Checo who claim it is a Good Start but i doubt it
It was a False Start after all
Even he gets Middlefingered by Liam 😂
thank god the fia is doing something right.
But how did you comes across them 🤔
p17 for checo… HOW IS THIS GUY STILL AT REDBULL
i saw someone find one about kimi antonelli mpreg on tiktok💀
in checo's defense, after the collision with lawson, checo had floor and sidepod damage
but yeah, his performance is...
the pics...
Yeah
Even just seeing it in the replay you could see he was miles off his spot
yeah LMAO
it's not even funny how off he was...
wait i have a pic of it
Somehow my dad missed it because he was watching the lights
great day in the office for red bull 👏
true! both teams did wonderful
vcarb
indeed
racing balls
lawson was not too bad in the first stint
money
correct
why doesn't lawson have a bot yet lmao did his bot get banned
yh
bc we have p19 ocon and p21 zhou
loll
help
i was just looking for it now
also bearman's bot pic is wrong now since f1's pic has him in the haas race suit
bc that's the most recent pic of him
someone should give alonso a massa fanboy role just for the chaos
ooo
He meant that F1 have Bearman wearing Haas colors
Not the server bot
Because Bearman’s last race was in Haas
he shouldn’t even be having collisions with a mid field car.
5 billion second penalty: i dont think so
i guess so, i honestly forgot about that b
he’s still a ferrari reserve driver so i think it’s not, like, a big deal.
Honestly if Haas keep going up like this I can’t wait to see him drive next year in that car
He’ll be in Ferrari 2027 more then likely
Unless Hamilton wins a WDC
guys what do you think about leclerc finishing second in drivers
im iffy but it’s a possibility.
I’d rather have Verstappen finish 3rd and Norris 1st
A lot of up and down tracks for both teams
Vegas Ferrari will be good, Qatar McLaren is expected
i like max but even i can admit he’s getting way too desperate
oo norris fan detected, what do you think about the 20s Penalty that was given to Max?
just crazy shit
like ik it was deserved, i agree but what do you think about the numbers
is 20s completely fair given how lando had done the exact same thing and had been given only 5s rather than 10s
McLaren fan and definitely more Piastri fan (And Lawson and Ricciardo
)
Eh, depends what is actually written in the rules about shoving another driver off track and gaining an advantage etc
The extra time is probably because of it Leclerc got ahead of both of them and seriously put Norris behind
10s is crazy
It’s dangerous
but again other drivers have done it too
And Max was clearly dive bombing that corner
2 penalty points have been given (the other 10s gave none)
so why does only Max get 10s
I know and more often then not it’s a coin flip case for penalties
i definitely agree. it was checo's fault for qualifying so low because this does increase your risk for this happening.
it's the same with monaco - checo made this possible by going out Q1
nah even thats predictable, FIA is way more ahead in terms of unpredictability
ahead at the apex is the defining rule for the FIA
I’m guessing it’s because he had no control and was behind at the corner
he got 20 seconds in total across 2 penalties
Apex changes depending on team views
i know, it should have been 10s, 5s each
i agree, but if we wanted to minimize damage from norris, this 20 second penalty was actually a blessing in disguise
But checo pushed into Lawson first can't blame Lawson for that no?
so FIA is biased
i mean look who the steward was...
yeah well...
just keep professional stewards..
max rightfully deserved a penalty, but they were clearly trying to make an example out of him bc of what happened with lando and all the bitching ZB was doing
i mean let the race happen, let them fight each other, let them crash into each other
It’s 2 case of forcing another driver off track, 1 case of gaining an advantage
yep so 5s + 5s = 10s total
And that’s how people used to die
also this was given after the race
i'm pretty sure one of the stewards is related to the founder of mclaren
when did that last happen?
cars have gotten much much safer
Drivers have also gotten more strong racing guidelines
if you want biased racing then theres no point in "racing"
i agree that the FIA should let hard racing happen and let fights happen, but they shouldn't be letting people crash into each other.
You can't compare this week to last week. Max got 10 seconds has he was BEHIND at the apex and forced a driver off the track and then kept the position. Lando got 5s for leaving the track and gaining and advantage, h was behind at the apex, but he did NOT force Max off. He was also NOT given 10s because in Lando's defence Max left him nowhere to go.
position unchanged right
If you want to see people try to kill each other go to a Warzone not a racetrack
i agree with lewis hamilton that f1 needs a consistent panel of stewards. it needs to be the same stewards every single time and all of them need to be professional.
the fia also needs to make very explicit rules that must be enforced equally every time.
yeah
Max kinda got 3 penalties in one lap
yeah
true but that doesnt mean that they should give insane penalties to drop a driver half way down the grid right, makes zero sense
How about Sauber get Magnussen?
I’m unsure why they added the extra 5 seconds but I’m guessing it might have something to do with Leclerc gaining an advantage over Verstappen putting Norris behind
youre missing the point here no one is dying, Max felt "a little dizzy" after the 50G crash
i think it had to do with leclerc getting an advantage
and they can't penalize leclerc for gaining the advantage bc leclerc himself did nothing wrong
I’m of the same opinion, that or multiple infractions in a short amount of time
precisely
No your just tunnel visioned of Max getting special treatment and unfair when it’s turned against him
all im saying is, forcing off another driver = 5s, leaving track for advantage = 5s
Max always has been
theres racing and then theres deliberately shoving people off track
And it won’t change soon
all championsip contenders are dirty drivers
Not my kimi
it seems more likely that it was leclerc benefitting, since when both lando and max went off the track, leclerc had free range to just slide right through. leclerc didn't break any rules in doing so since it was wide open, so there's no reason to punish him. verstappen caused the opening for leclerc to go through while committing a rules violation, so it was just the FIA's way of lumping it all together: not only did max gain an advantage (sort of), he allowed another driver to as well
Like, not gonna lie, he's been like this even before he hit his prime
i don’t think hamilton was ever that aggressive
hamilton literally had the fastest car then, i mean the W11?
it's kind of like in law where certain crimes become elevated bc they were being committed whilst another serious crime was
It is entertaining
He used to slightly drift someone towards to wall/grassed area
though
look at Schumacher, look at prime Vettel
but for driving standards
Left space but minimised it
oh wait almost murdered max in silverstone 2021
you got that
And this is coming from a Vettel fan
Not as outright dirty but underhanded dirty regardless at times
yes
Hey hey not all my guy was perfect
Didn't Schumi try to take Villenueve out?
Nobody is perfect
(Only reason he got the wdc is beacuse lewis fucked up)
kimiiiiiiii
i agree, but i can see situations where that is necessary. max's case was not necessary - he needed 10 seconds
Still a very different era of racing
How do you get a Vettel fan role?
now that i think of it - multiple infractions at one time makes sense too. i think it's largely because of leclerc getting an advantage, but the fact that it was two incidents within a short amount of time upgraded the incident overall
he shouldve won 2003 at least
nonononooooo, i am saying Max 100% deserved both penalties but why was he the one who got 10s for each, why didnt other drivers get 10s in the previous races, thats all im saying, either drivers get 5s penalty for one or directly 20s?
It was 3 incidents in a lap
Silver kimi was depression
Your still missing the 3rd penalty
STILL!
which one :)
Oh ffs
Where lec got an advantage
more like 2005
so how did the actual penalty break down? 5 seconds for two incidents combined into 10 and then 10 for the other one?
Never debate with a fanatic; I hate repeating myself
but Alonso also deserved it
And made lando lose positions
i have watched the race highlights saying MAX WAS GIVEN 2 PENALTIES OF 10S EACH
Personally bith deserved it but kimis car was suicidal
WHERE TF DOES A THIRD INCHIDENT COME FROM NOW
inchident?
it was technically three incidents within two penalties: max pushed lando off the track, max gained an advantage, and indirectly max gave charles an advantage as well when he pushed himself and lando off
mb f1 fan
max was directly penalized for pushing lando off the track and gaining an advantage, hence the 20 sec penalty
yes>
It was 2 cases of forcing another driver off track so 10 seconds, one case of leaving the track and gaining an advantage makes another 5, so the last 5 seconds is either Leclerc benefiting from Verstappen illegally ruining Norris’s race or multiple infractions in a short amount of time
Out of all the fights 2007 shouldn't have been his 1st he deserved way more 😭
Alonso deserved 2012 😔
ok
max giving charles an advantage counts as a penalty? giving up your own position and a second driver's for a third one is a PENALTY?
dumbest bs ive heard so far
Made lando lose positions for no reason
i assume the 3rd incident means gaining an advantage. other two meaning forcing a driver off track
it would count as gaining an advantage
lando lost positions for no reason bc of verstappen's move AND leclerc going by also adds to lando losing positions for no reason bc he was able to do so thru verstappen pushing them both off
There is alot of shit around this race and Qatar they plan to attempt to sort it out
they need to ngl
I have little hope for an improvement and less loopholes
esp. with the apex rule
so shouldnt the Silverstone 2022 also be perez's fault? the very famous "thru goes hamilton"
Last time ferrari and mclaren were this close fighting for wcc was like 2007-8 right?
if they patched the rule about the apex at a corner and defending like austin i'd be happy
does **THIS ** not count?
it's two different rule sets
They would have to pull up every race track and draw the Apex line
or maybe because it was Verstappen thats why penalty was given
yeah, unfortunately
But it will always change depending on opinion
simple as that
i get you're a max fan but bc it was max isn't the reason why he got the penalty
Where is the apex if alone? Where is the apex for the attacker and defender?
it's too subjective yea
Bro it's simple that he made lando lose position to lec and forced him off the track. 2 pens. Easy.
Don’t fight with a fanatic please
Hahaha
3rd incident doesnt make sense, first two i 100% agree but 10s for each is too much, simple as that, thats what ive been saying for so long
It’s always like that in F1, make and take every advantage there is
they didnt give out 3 penalties for max
max should've gotten 15 seconds, but it is what it is. the good thing out of it is lando now needs to score more points to beat verstappen by one point in the wdc
people are just saying a 3rd incident
they gave out 2 penalties, correct
One penalty was kinda 2 in 1
then answer the "through goes hamilton" incident, leclerc fighting perez and hamilton gaining advantage, why didnt he also get penalised?
yeah
Forcing a driver off and gaining an advantage
it's literally a different rule set
@wet sequoia
So still 3 infractions but 2 was done in 1
You’d have to pull up both penalty documents
😭😭😭
FIA is becoming such a joke 🤣
it already was long time ago
And we were crying last race lmao
It has been since the beginning
the deeper i go the worse it gets mgl
see the thing is
I mean they used to be paid off easily
with norris they only gave 5 second penalty because he didnt force max off, max forced him off but norris gained an advantage by going way off track
FIA wants Lando to win so they are now experimenting bs rules on Verstappen so he is in the disadvantage i think we can all see that
i feel they gave max 10s because he forced norris off himself
And we all know Brad Pitt won Mexico
Wrong
So wrong
but it is a grey area
😭😭😭
im sorry 20s is not justifiable
Max is literally their golden boy since lewis
We been telling u why it's justifiable u ain't listening
@echo urchin @barren rock
Penalty 1: Forcing another driver off the track
Norris was attempting to overtake on the outside of Verstappen at Turn 4. Norris was ahead of Verstappen at the entry, apex and toward the exit of the turn when he started being forced off the track. The Stewards believe that the maneuver was done in a safe and controlled manner and that Norris would have been able to make the maneuver on the track had he not been forced off the track by Verstappen. Norris cut the corner but immediately gave the position he gained as a result back to Sainz.
One incident: Max pushes Lando off track. Lando avoids a penalty because he gave the position back to Sainz.
Penalty 2: Leaving the track and gaining a lasting advantage
Following the incident in Turn 4, Verstappen attempted to pass Norris on the inside at Turn 8. Verstappen was ahead at the apex of Turn 8 and would have been entitled to racing room. However, he was not able to complete the maneuver on the track, left the track and kept the lasting advantage gaining the position, incidently forcing Norris off the track.
Two incidents: Max left the track while overtaking Norris (leaving the track), Norris forced off the track as a result (forcing another driver off the track + gaining advantage)
yea because it makes no sense we all know max why would he give charles an advantage and why give 10s penalties each?
Save the trouble and ignore or block 🙏
did you read it
Hahaha
noted 10s each is not JUSTIFIABLE
The penalty is the standard penalty in such cases.
Bro came out with bolded letters
@barren rock
It's so over
yes i did
Least he didn’t use larger font
That would be overkill
That’d result in an automod 
HAHAA
Nah they banned it because of spam
the whole thing? because imo this is justifiable
anyways the race is over, FIA dont do that again
Someone stop ferrari, I am scared of our wcc
15s at max not more would be fine
Forcing another driver off the track is automatically like a 5 second time penalty. Lando saved himself from a penalty by giving the position back to Sainz, so it's possible the FIA factored Lando giving the penalty back into Max's penalty.
Forcing another driver off the track is like a 5 second penalty. Gaining a lasting advantage is always between 5-10 secs depending on the incident. 10 seconds for penalty two makes perfect sense.
Did our floor change make us slow? Cause that's why we were delaying it
yes so 15s is fine
i can agree
but it still justifies the penalties
I can agree with this, but the Stewards logic does sort of explain why a 10 second penalty was awarded.
We were hesitant to install it, possibly
i dunno 20 is overkill 🤷♂️
okay here we go
perez is nowhere to be seen
Yeah we delayed cause every team who changed the floor wa slower but now that we changed it...arnt we slower
😔
Oh boy…
"stewards" and "logic" look weird together
on the plus side, horner is appealing max's first 10 second penalty
also charles might get community service lmao
he should definitely
bad language??
He already got told off by fia tho
he said fuck
So I don't think he will
even if he did appeal the first 10s penalty he still wouldnt get past russell in the final results
awwww poor charles
you never know with the FIA
max was 11s behind russell
True lmfao
i agree, but i think horner still wants to try to appeal it. he was showing norris's telemetry to journalists and arguing that lando would not have made the corner in any event
Hasn't Horner already appealed
I laughed at “Please don’t make me like Max”
is he talking about both penalties
this rule also i never get, is F1 meant for toddlers or what
And instantly got told off when press left lmfao
It's prolly cause national tv
Horner is NOT appealing the penalties
censor it then
I thought Horner was trying to
Not? Damnnn by the way he was acting I thought he would
whats he trying to do
Censor it live? That's gonna be hard lmfao
I know he can’t appeal the Perez penalty 🤣
ig delay it a bit, cmon we have the tech now
it's not like radio messages
It's live for a reason tho
I mean I hate when my stream is delayed by even 8 sec
nothing happening in 2s bro
I’m behind 10 seconds on Kayo and even later then that I wouldn’t be paying
If I was paying for delayed stream oh lord
Like 30 seconds is not technically live
Because most people would get spoiled in socials by spoilers and ha tee themselves
discord is literally like a spoiler alert for me
and everyone who spoiled
Seems easier to just tell drivers not to swear
I get not swearing in live press conferences
Yeah
As per Lewis Larkam of crash.net:
*Red Bull team principal Horneer presented to media including Crash.net a data print out claiming to reveal that Norris had carried more speed into Turn 4 when battling Verstappen than at any other point in the race.
"First of all yes I think it was very harsh to give two ten-second penalties," Horner said. "I think there's something more fundamental. I mean obviously there's been a reaction to last weekend, and I think it's very important for the drivers' steward and the drivers to sit down."
"If I show you here on the GPS - this is the run on down to Turn 4 - this is actually Lando versus Lando, and what yu can see is that the orange line is Lando's fastest lap of the grand prix, so the point he is braking for Turn 4 and then obviously executing the corner... he is 15 kilometers an hour faster... He wouldn't have made the corner. He would have run off track."
...
Horner said Red Bull would not try to appeal the penalties handed out to Verstappen.*
Which is honestly fair
He really did pull a Toto 
I got it PRINTED
I.mean neither was max making that corner
Checo has been saying the car is fucked!
No he hasn't. Speak to my drivers!
I HAVE IT PRINTED OUT!
the FIA have not sent the final race classification yet
lowkey that's prob why they aren't appealing it LMAO
EXACTLY lmfao
but its very hard on their part right? i mean your sitting in front of a boiling engine, inside a tub with 4-5 layers of clothing on with intense g forces on you and trying to fight for places in that, weird you get penalty for nto swearing
he's trying to uhm actually
Who gave pens for swearing?
What?
Max was sanctioned for saying his car was fucked in Singapore, but that's it.
U get community service at max no?
community services?
No penalty
no its not
Yet
no, they just said max should do community service related to racing
Or fine
but its cringe
Charles as well
confirmed?
Probably
i thought they were considering letting charles off with a warning bc he got chewed out by the FIA and was profusely apologizing
Nah fuck that
it's the fia....
Game's game
Nah lec drffo got told off and by this time they would have put out a statement
I think lec is save
I F######G APOLOGISE TO YOU FOR SAYING F##K BECAUSE OF YOUR F####G RULE
That's bs tbf
if max takes a new engine in brazil, would he get a 5 place grid pen for the sprint? or is it only applying to the feature race
Equal rights equal fights
Haha lec apologized
lawson's was applied to the feature race
Soy attitude
Ig it's gotta be main race
Still like him tho
soy lago
Huh?
sorry, whenever i read soy i just think of soy lago
Oh damn
The grid pens will apply to Sunday race only
You're not the only one
the incident was on checo yea
Whats soy lago
do u disagree?
im curious too
I see ASTRO and I get reminded of sleep deprived
I am a lake or smt, sainz was tryna teach lando Spanish
Or smt
😭
if you look on f1's website, ollie is in a haas race suit. i think f1's website puts the drivers in whatever the race suit for their most recent team is. in ollie's case, this is haas. the bots in this server aren't updated as regularly - the point values change, not the pictures.
for proof about ollie's f1 picture, see the image attached above. his number also changed.
it's from when carlos and lando were mclaren teammates. i think carlos asked him how he was and norris replied he was a lake
yes, "soy lago" translates to "i am lake"
oh lol
yeah
the funniest part about oscar bitching about carlos on his radio is i'm pretty sure tom stallard is friendly with carlos
like i'm pretty sure stallard was carlos's race engineer at mclaren lmfao
Ferrari top at constructors? 🤔
why is there no track?
5 or 10 place
just turn numbers
@short hollow @mellow steeple To answer your question about the final race classification, it will likely come out today. A few hours after the race ended, the Stewards issued a 10 second penalty for Franco Colapinto over his incident with Liam Lawson.
Colapinto was given a 10 second penalty for the incident, but it shouldn't impact the final standings. If I remember correctly, Colapinto was over 10 seconds ahead of Ocon. Since the penalty was issued hours after the race, it does make sense that the final classification hasn't been released yet, outside of them also revisiting Verstappen's first penalty.
hell nah, mclaren will win i reckon
if piastri bums out and ferrari keeps doing what they are doing, it is tbh possible
i doubt oscar will
go to sleep
me too
j legend
tbh now it's fun at
is this better?
but we need lando to win sprint and race in brazil
much
pls no
Guys, it’s Ecclestone’s 94th birthday today.
hbd
he's now as old as my grandma when she died
Probably difficult
Interlagos is way too bumpy
toyotaaaaa
my bad
For both McLaren and red bulls
I want Carlos to win sprint ima be real
It’s even more impressive age for a man, good for him and even for your grandma.
Happy birthday, Bernie, although I didn’t agree with most of the things you’ve ever said.
no, it's fine - it's a subtle change
yeah. my grandma was feisty
Max
TF is that profile picture💀
But max is the king sprint races
for how long did we not hear the DUTCH anthem?
It's been a while 😞
dont even remember when was the last time :*(
I played it yesterday to sedate myself
oh dont worry the banner is far worse
Lol
Ikr 😔
lol
i'm ok with him winning but lewis winning in brazil would be nice
since spain
I think at imola
spain - he won in spain
You shouldn’t’ve made me look at it. Now I’m traumatized from this weekend, from this profile picture and from this banner

max's last win was spain even though he won the austin sprint. the last time the dutch anthem was played in spain since they don't play anthems for sprints.
outside of the podium, we heard the dutch anthem in zandvoort s
Ahh
imola was prob his best win this season
i have imola #1 and bahrain #2
Bahrain.........
Why is just a girl ☠️
the grand chelem is special but max fought to hold onto that p1 in the end stages of imola and he's just him
so i rank imola higher than bahrain
Fair
objectively though bc bahrain was a grand chelem, it was max's best victory this season
what the fuck it's 5:19 in the morning
I thought girls were humans which is a quality the creature on your banner doesn’t possess.
Here is 06 morning
DAMN SO LONG

for me its 11 in the mornig
ngl love ur pfp
lucky
j legend
i have class in like 2 hrs lmao
j legenddd
man i need to go to class now (:
pain
ikr
U sleeped?
not since i woke up at 10 am yesterday
lol
☠️
get yourself a nice red bull white limmited edition\
i have like 15 red bull in my fridge i'm deadass
and u will be as fresh
my friend is not real she drinks celsius and sugar free red bull
and she says sugar free tastes better
For a while time but after. ☠️☠️
after 4/5 hours he will be dead asleep
Yes
i mean it tastes good tho
waitwhat
real red bull tastes better
wec finale
she* but actually i spent an all nighter writing a paper and i took a red bull and didn't crash until 11 pm the next day 💀


help 😭
i'm free
hi
i was commenting on how yuki looks incredibly short (shorter than usual) in the pic, but i used a word that's banned in the server unintentionally
verstappen is not cooking this week 😓
lawson a bitch fullstop.
😭😭😭
we need checo to pull a latifi type shi to help max at abu dhabi
I have brainrotted brain what can I do
holy shit it's sergio perez
Welcome back checo 😄
tbf the engine pen isn't his fault
but yeah in mexico he burnt the shit
it's ok i get it a lot 😭
is maxing taking a new engine for brazil ?
is max*
What's your name if not reference to ASTRO
most likely - max mentioned he most likely needs a new engine since the one he used in FP1 and FP2 was shit and the one he used for FP3 onward was an older engine with degrading performance
brazil is the best place to logically take it
i swear brazil is a bit hard to overtake apart from the drs zones
and like maybe 2 corners near ferrradura
he didn't get an engine penalty in mexico, though, because the engine he used was in the engine pool
one of max's best tracks is interlagos imo
his best by far is spa tho
spa and then cota is close second
he's a different breed in belgium, maybe bc his mom is belgian
he's good in zandvoort too but not in the same way as in spa
guys my mom is a pole dancer
how much poles does she have
shes in pole position
Awesome sauce
more than hamilton?
yeah
what a legend
woah
astro from astronaut LOL. i wanted to be an astronaut when i grew up
my username is legit astro(naut) + my nickname yun
my username is balls_12
fixed the mexico banner
and idk why i chose it
racingballs12
omg he is
is he balls_12 or is balls_12 him
red bull is not that caffeinated man
yeah. not sure why i didn't crash until 11 pm tho
Guys don't spoil it because the highlights is on
feel like there's not enough caffeine in it to sustain you for this long
it was an interesting gp
Zhou didnt win
nor did tsunoda
sauber didn't get points tho
nor did albon
that's like not a spoiler tho that's literally every race
Why the fuck are you in this channel then lmao
when did sauber last get points 😭
Like what do you expect
but i just spoiled it 🙏
it screams the ppl on r/wec screaming bc ppl spoiled cota le mans 😭
despite it saying like spoiler alert or smth in the post
Checo could get replaced before the end of the Season, Christian Horner said
ok but tbf it is red bull
i forgot what he said verbatum but yea
kicking people mid season is kind of their thing
Nothing is doing Right yet so far for Checo
It probably never will
Look, it's a performance-based business. There comes a point in time that difficult decisions have to be made.
Until and unless it's force india 💀
He is definitely been Slow and Slow so far
i can tell horner is thinking about replacing him like seriously
Looks like Qatar last year
Holy shit
Race 17
Crazy wheel knowledge
google 🤫
Oh shit
ok
Its funny the closest they got this year was when they had that two minute pitstop
valtteri's bahrain pit stop i will never forget u
Maybe Qatar won't be much Hot in December
I remember like FIFA in 2022 go for November to December because it's less Hot
i don't dig qatar in general
isn't AD in december
Hmmm...
they could theoretically do a qatar-AD double header
23.5 Temperature in Qatar
I'd say Both F2 and F1 Academy won't feel much Hot before the Official F1 Grand Prix at Night Time
yea
i think having qatar in dec (like not it's current date) might f some atuff up tho with the drivers' mandatory winter time off
Esteban gonna Vomit a Lot if the Qatar Race held at very Hot Temperature, It's Bad
like if u put qatar where AD is now and move AD to a week or two later
then it would mess stuff up
qatar is in December
when
I have Russell in S Class. I maintain one on one Max would find George a pain in the ass. Like Max, he's crazy good at qualifying and frankly yesterday with a lower spec car and a broken wing, only 3 seconds behind lewis and tbh... that was just good fun. George is my S Tier driver.
There's a top 5 and then there's those behind. Max, Lando, George, Lewis, Charles... flip a coin on who you prefer.
Max yesterday... his attitude to racing bloody hell. He's not even concerned about rules. He puts in quick one lap pace, hold up threats to his championship hopes, punt them off if need be, scare everyone into submission.... win.
Every time. If team doesn't provide me with car, join best car. Win.
Hahaha that's sick
who won the mexcio gp?
hulk
This was the first time Carlos won since Melbourne right
Yes
Sainz
perez
zhou
sargeant
hadjar
de vries
Bernd Maylander
Fernando Alonso
ricciardo
Farina
senna
vettel
Logan
ocon
Fangio
Gasly
Hamilton
Good morning everybody, I hope you all are having a great and lovely day today ❤️.
🇧🇷 is next
15 seconds really did nothing .. by the end he was 10 seconds off george wasn't he
RIP to this channel, until next year
You realise it changes for each race, right?
Why the penalties applied not standard across all drivers?
well its monday so they better make it the brazil gp channel soon
they were trying to make up for last race, but to be honest, max should be smarter and knew hje was going to get penalized
Not defending max, he did wrong
still p6 was a great damage control
But the question why the penalties are not standard
they follow a guidline, not even a procedure
We always update it the Tuesday after the previous race.
okay mr BWT
Max again on his way to turn this into another rule
should've been a rule from the start
same offense can be either 5 or 10 seconds depending on the guy reviewing it
The thing is
Drivers wanted penalties to be harsher
So the standard was made 10 seconds
And 5 under special circumstances I believe
Max finding loopholes in FiA rulebook and help them fix it 😅
yeah i know, i dont really care mfor the harsher penaltys, but norris should've gotten 10s last race as well
should make it consistent over a season, not a race
Fym it's even inconsistent in races
Let me show the explanation given
Like perez deserved a penalty
fr
When does logic has been at the centre of FIA taking actions 😂
perez annoyed me hard this race
But they were like nah he is Mexican anyways
Also lawson is shit
Bro he touches everyone on the grid
drove it into the wall both in quali and gp
yeah theyve been doing thast for years
He’s acting like a multiple WC winner when kid hasn’t even completed a full season
if he gest a competent car hes going to win races