monaco-gp

[vivid ore]

i'd say this as a joint top 4 when they're all on a good day but three of them have really weird spells of ridiculous strength then the absolute troughs of hell

sainz over lewis and piastri over norris imo

[candid shoal]

george definitely above lando in skill

[rain cove]

no way lando is in the top 4

[oblique junco]

piastri or hulkenberg fifth

[hollow canopy]

Still not top 4

[vivid ore]

especially this year, i mean

[summer drift]

Nah as in the best on the grid

[warped lotus]

Yes prob top 5

[fleet mauve]

but not in looks 😍 🔥

[rain cove]

pure talent lewis is still there hes just had bad form

[vestal lintel]

For me
Max
Lando/Charles
Carlos
Lewis
Oscar
Kevin
Russell
Niko

[gleaming cairn]

seems like a nice young lad. think i’ve seen him in f1 academy

[summer drift]

I reckon he still is just 2 bad races gives bad recency bias

[warped lotus]

I like the sky sports compliments to Carlos finallyyyyy

[summer drift]

Kevin over Nico?!?!?!

[rain cove]

kevin 💀

[vivid ore]

rating hulk and mag in your top 10 is insane work and i kinda love you for it

[winter forge]

ferrari would want to watch probably the most legendary title win of all time just as much as they’d want to watch charles win

[eager harness]

I think he would be a good rookie in F1 tho, but maybe he is too young

[worn mica]

Max has to be the GOAT….put a car p2 when the other car can only manage p18….what a talent

[rain cove]

KEVIN OVER GEORGE 💀💀💀💀

[vestal lintel]

Both have done good in a Haas

[real ore]

Gasly P8 or higher it's a conversation

[winter forge]

Oscar over George is an absolutely diabolical take

[hushed olive]

carlos has a very solid ferrari while lewis has to deal with a pretty bad merc but yeah

[summer drift]

I think that’s just Checo being shambolic 💀

[vivid ore]

both have a cumulative one career podium to their name

[candid shoal]

top grid: max
lewis
charles
george/carlos
oscar
bottas
lando
nico
pierre

[worn mica]

Let me enjoy my copium

[eager harness]

Its talent and basically carrying a whole fucking team on his back

[gleaming cairn]

yeah he could learn a thing or two from liam lawson

[summer drift]

Bottas?!?!??

[oblique junco]

max
charles
lewis
oscar
carlos
lando
nico
george

[vestal lintel]

Unlucky in teams they will do well in a top team trust

[candid shoal]

in skill??? yes

[hushed olive]

he is stuck in a shitbox kick sauber

[oblique junco]

in no particular order

[gleaming cairn]

AGREED

[hushed olive]

we cant blame him

[summer drift]

Here’s a question who’s worse
Checo or Lance

[gleaming cairn]

Bottas is a world class driver given a shit car

[vestal lintel]

Equal imo

[rain cove]

i think pure skill is like max charles lewis oscar/george carlos/lando fernando

[hushed olive]

this season def checo

[winter forge]

lance this shouldn’t be a debate

[worn mica]

Maybe it’s a good thing Newey is gone since Max has been making that shitbox look like a god

[candid shoal]

he’s sooooo good defense god

[vestal lintel]

Both still good drivers but not top

[oblique junco]

this season its checo

[eager harness]

He is a really good driver, he just has a horrible car

[vivid ore]

2025;

verstappen
leclerc
norris/piastri (equals)
russell
sainz/leclerc (equals)
hamilton
colapinto
gasly

then it gets messy

[rain cove]

colapinto 😭😭😭

[candid shoal]

the pierre hopium

[vivid ore]

picked mainly on outstandingly good performances this season

[summer drift]

Bit early to say Colapinto

[vivid ore]

you cannot deny that franco has been insanely impressive

[burnt thorn]

2025 leclerc will clear sainz (as a sainz fan)

[winter forge]

no this season its still lance, baku was a better performance than lance has put in in the last 3 years

[vestal lintel]

We should have one spec race in corsas

[formal trail]

i agree 😭

[summer drift]

Checos worse than stroll right now

[candid shoal]

colapinto but not either 2025 haas is crazy

[rain cove]

but like he needs to have more

[vivid ore]

pierre has had some absolute belter weekends this year

[rain cove]

i dont like nico though 😭

[vivid ore]

when he's not too busy crashing into ocon he's got serious speed

[winter forge]

Norris and Piastri as equals is honestly wild, who actually let people believe this

[vestal lintel]

Near stock corsa speces to same to see how is best

[summer drift]

Yea but the gap in positions is
1st to 8th and
9th to 11th

[stiff bough]

Would they? To me signing Lewis makes one think that they don't have full faith in Leclerc

[oblique junco]

but i think we have to keep perspective with the different cars they have, since max is performing very well given his car checo shouldnt be doing this shit

[warped lotus]

Ferrari is the only team with both drivers qualifying for pole position, let that sink in

[candid shoal]

yes i totally agree and love him and think he’s way better than ppl take him for but sometimes it’s the car too so we have to think abt how reliable alpine can be

[vivid ore]

piastri's got the consistency that norris lacks, norris has more of the outright pace when it all clicks together

[oblique junco]

also lance is somewhat keeping up with fernando in the aston and rarely outperforming

[winter forge]

the aston was the 5th fastest car in absolute no mans land for most of the season

[vivid ore]

french and reliability in the same statement 😭

[vestal lintel]

Lewis Ferrari is a perfect retirement story imo

[stiff bough]

consistency? isnt piastri more often than not off the pace relative to lando...?

[hushed olive]

lando def owns piastri in qualifying

[oblique junco]

checo hasnt been able to do that considering fernando and max r both very skilled drivers

[summer drift]

Well they know Lewis will win the title with the fastest car while Leclerc isn’t fully confirmed after his 2022 errors

[candid shoal]

To each their own ig i still think it’s just a buffer and good pr to have lewis there and for lewis that’s a great way to end his career in a ferrari very epic

[stiff bough]

Japan, Spain, Zandvoort, and Singapore spring to mind

[warped lotus]

Hard to compare in a 💩 car

[vestal lintel]

We need one spec race a season

[winter forge]

if piastri is more consistent why is he so far behind in the standings

[vivid ore]

his lap-to-lap consistency is ridiculous, his positioning is amazing too and his tyre management? phwoar man

[vestal lintel]

Get 20 Vaxhull Corsas add a roll cage and see who can be fastest

[winter forge]

didn’t piastri shred his tyres in zandvoort and finish 4th behind 2 far slower cars

[slender flare]

My fav driver on the grid are
Charles Leclerc
Carlos sainz
Lewis Hamilton
George Russell
Max verstappen

[vivid ore]

cause again, norris has more outright pace than oscar, and lando just had a better start to the year

they've been more or less equal since

[vestal lintel]

Your no1 is clear

[small snow]

Its a pretty known thing that tyre management is his worst trair lmao

[oblique junco]

mines verstappen russell pierre

[mellow steeple]

what a qualifying that was

[stiff bough]

but even as recent as Singapore, he's not completely up there all the time with Lando

[vivid ore]

he's the god of the two stop though 😼

[vestal lintel]

Sky commentator were loving it

[stiff bough]

or COTA, when it was an off weekend for the team

[west yoke]

past two weekends prove otherwise

[summer drift]

IMO only reason checos still in that seat is cause of Abu Dhabi 21

[sage marlin]

What happened Piastri

[vivid ore]

? again, lap-to-lap performance he's been insanely consistent

[oblique junco]

and 💰

[vivid ore]

skill issue (sadly)

[winter forge]

He just got knocked out in Q1…

[junior granite]

what is this leaderboard kmag p7 lmao

[oblique junco]

track limits

[vestal lintel]

Oscar need to be more consistent and lando needs overtake work on max and start work

[dry needle]

colapinto still better than albon

[summer drift]

Even then they’re gonna lose more from not winning constructors

[vivid ore]

drivers make mistakes nobody can be perfect

[warped lotus]

Cartel know something on Christian I’m sure 😂😂

[west yoke]

hea not near the consistency of norris he still has mid weekends norris excels all around in every travk hes always competitive, oscar has mid tracks like spain for example

[vivid ore]

were people calling verstappen a shit driver cause he got nearly k/od in spa

[winter forge]

he also got knocked out in SQ1 last race lol

[burnt raptor]

Yeab

[vestal lintel]

Gonna be a good race

[hushed olive]

well is mexico

[summer drift]

Also anyone gonna mention Tsunoda taking himself out so Lawson couldn’t get through

[winter forge]

no because he didn’t get knocked out and then took pole by a huge margin

[junior granite]

its gonna be a semi interesting lap one and then snooze

[vivid ore]

bear in mind piastri also has checks notes four seasons less of f1 experience relevant to norris

[vestal lintel]

Anyway I'm off to bed

[summer drift]

Jk

[dry needle]

it’s yuki. what do u expect

[hushed olive]

mexico is always mid racing wise so i dont expect a great race tommorow

[small snow]

Gonna be a great race tomorrow too bad its so late

[vivid ore]

last year's was pretty good tbh

[summer drift]

Anyway good night all

[vivid ore]

i love a late race, lets me cosy up in bed with some snacks and a nightcap

[neat fern]

Mclaren was faster in the corners?

[hushed olive]

pretty much the only exception

[vivid ore]

tbf yeah

bodes well for tomorrow though, especially with so many cars out of position

[neat fern]

Late?

[vivid ore]

european, we're used to early afternoon starts but it's 11:35pm in the UK lol

[copper oasis]

So how many cars are we predicting in the T1 pile up?

I'm thinking at least 4

[vivid ore]

verstappen and norris, and only verstappen and norris

[small snow]

i mean 10 pm is late relative to normal wont be sleeping anyway but i just hate waiting for it

[vivid ore]

ferrari continue to dominate convincingly, piastri somehow pulls a godly comeback to p3

[neat fern]

Fr

[vivid ore]

perez pointless 🗣️🔥

[copper oasis]

Piastri to P3?
Mate this is Mexico

[vivid ore]

and that mclaren is levels ahead of the cars around him

[wheat cape]

Oscar copium so high rn

[stable galleon]

Just like Monaco 2016 (I think)

[vivid ore]

he's also one of the most measured and competent drivers when it comes to racecraft, he doesn't do anything silly and he knows how to play his opponents well

[torpid forum]

Man Sainz got pole and on other hand Real Madrid lost

[stable galleon]

Lol

[junior granite]

feels like piastri is always lapping in no mans land with no one around him

[vivid ore]

oscar copium always high

[wheat cape]

REAL

[torpid forum]

Like how would he even celebrate

[vivid ore]

we just need oscar to lock in and do spa 2024 but like two laps earlier

[copper oasis]

I'll never understand why Lando gets slandered, Oscar gets glazed, and Lando consistently beats him.

Make it make sense

[vivid ore]

if he won that race that would've been one of the most insane wins ever

[stable galleon]

As I wise man once said…

[small snow]

was mexico last year a two stop?

[vivid ore]

because the lando haters are ridiculously loud and arrogant

[hushed olive]

well its hard to tell cuz we had a red flag last year

[wheat cape]

And like overtake 80% of the grid and like get p1

[burnt torrent]

Wait guys leclerc is p4 again, and in Austin and Monza he started p4 and won so hear me out…. Leclerc win tomorrow and Ferrari 1-2 absolute cinema.

[vivid ore]

they'd rather anybody except lando so they glaze oscar

[junior granite]

haven't you heard? oscar is wdc material!

[hushed olive]

oscar is inconsistent and this last 3 races proves it

[vivid ore]

light weekend for the guy

[stable galleon]

Exactly that just that sainz wins

[wheat cape]

Walk in the park

[copper oasis]

Haas VS Aston Martin is the true Longshot fight to watch

[twin geode]

@lunar quartz this is what I meant

[vivid ore]

aston started as such ballers but fell off an insane amount it's actually really funny

[junior granite]

also i just realized bottas p15 is crazy

[vivid ore]

kinda like mclaren last year

but in reverse, obviously

[wheat cape]

Shortest lived comback

[hushed olive]

this race is going to be another ferrari dominance max on the podium lando in p4 the mercs stuck in p5-p6 Oscar comeback drive to p7 and Checo out of the points

[vivid ore]

outqualified a mclaren and a red bull that's my goat 🗣️🔥

[dull tinsel]

charles p4, winning tmw Confirmed??

[sage marlin]

He was so great most of the season

[vivid ore]

sainz is gonna get bodied by max and lando into t1, the tow is insane here

max and lando are gonna go round the outside, probably, and collide which lets charles slot through behind carlos

[wheat cape]

Imagine Charles wdc

[vivid ore]

either that or carlos somehow holds p1 and just runs off into the sunset while leclerc picks off max and lando

then max and lando bitch at each other on the radio over the rules again

[hushed olive]

shame that checo is having a nightmare year and merc dont know how to develope a car otherwise we could have 8 drivers fighting at the top

[copper oasis]

Next year

[wheat cape]

Manifesting it🙏

[vivid ore]

didn't we say that in 2022
and 2023
and this year

[wheat cape]

And probably next year

[vivid ore]

lmao yeah

[copper oasis]

Next Year ™️
The Ferrari well of hope is never dry

[vivid ore]

we just need ferrari to lock in like they are rn

[summer drift]

…..

[copper oasis]

Bottas to RBR

[wheat cape]

And not fumble like mclaren

[elfin acorn]

anyone wonna vc

[vivid ore]

at least fumble less than they have been

[elfin acorn]

lmao

[wheat cape]

Can't decide whether it's more painful being a McLaren fan or a Ferrari fan

[slender flare]

Nice!!

[cyan gust]

Max p2!!!!!!

[vivid ore]

mclaren have periods of strength and weakness, peaks and troughs if you will

ferrari are very consistently capable of an elite tier fumble at any given moment, there is no such thing as complacency as a ferrari fan

[wheat cape]

Definitely Ferrari

[junior granite]

no matter how much they've fucked up mclaren have still done an incredible job this season

[vivid ore]

i only rep ferrari because i like charles and chose carlos as my driver WAYYYYY back in '15, otherwise i'm 100% pureblood mclaren

[stiff venture]

Well thats the spirit

[vivid ore]

to be fair yeah, the comeback from 2022 has been one of the quickest progressions we've ever seen

[summer briar]

completely, to go from the depths of the midfield to winning the constructors is wild

[junior granite]

and they still seem to be on course to win constructors (well with piastris perf today idk)

[lunar quartz]

is that instagram

[stiff venture]

It is cool that ferrari will get 1,2 back to back.

[wheat cape]

Scrap the racing and everyone frolics in harmony /s

[vivid ore]

even within '22, to go from double DNF and zero pace with horrific reliability and porpoising issues to consistent points
then '23, from consistent points to a solid, convincing run of podiums
to this year, multiple race wins and leading the championship

[stiff venture]

Who?

[vivid ore]

mclaren

[lunar quartz]

yeah mclaren climbed lmao

[vivid ore]

only in 5 races last season did the team score no points, and after those they just found another gear somehow

it was one of the most insane bouncebacks i've ever seen without some sort of technical revolution (looking at you, 2009)

[tough bough]

I need a new F1 phone wallpaper, who’s got the best one? 😂

[stiff venture]

It looks like HAAS is going through their hero's journey right now like mclaren did. Mclaren overtook merc. Can HAAS over take ferrari now that they have that Japanese engineering backing them

[junior granite]

they stuck toyota stickers on their car and got p7

[vivid ore]

haas will likely stay midfield

where in that midfield? as of late i'm inclined to say mid-upper

probably solidly p5 next season which is an insane leap from the last couple years

[stiff venture]

It took mclaren 1.5 years. Have faith that this time next year they will be a powerhouse

[vivid ore]

haas only just got a simulator, mclaren have their own wind tunnel and a lengthy history in motorsport as well as performance road cars

haas have half the equipment and personnel of top teams, they'll never be at the top until they do

[stiff venture]

HAAS now has access to 2 wind tunnel

[vivid ore]

what they need is for gene haas to not threaten to sell the team evey second race

[wheat cape]

Mission impossible

[vivid ore]

they already did via ferrari, they're just opting to use GR/Toyota now

[junior granite]

toyota have a good history in motorsport too

[twin geode]

Yeah

[vivid ore]

yeah, but they're only technical partners so they'll be constructing b-list parts

chassis are still dallara, engines are still ferrari, the majority of the primary components which they've been buying from ferrari will now be in-house or toyota

[junior granite]

but tbf motorsport history doesnt mean much; audi has a phenomenal history and no one's expecting them to stomp

[vivid ore]

so that's suspension, floors, bodywork

[junior granite]

i figured that this deal is just going to be a gradual takeover until its all toyota

[vivid ore]

audi are taking over sauber, there's no worse team currently to work with as a starting point

[vivid ore]

if toyota wanted an f1 team they'd've bought one

[stiff venture]

https://tenor.com/view/believe-kungfupanda-gif-5316498

[junior granite]

this is probably easier

[vivid ore]

to me, "technical partnership" means nothing other than "we're making some parts for them that they've designed in exchange for our name on the car somewhere"

afaik toyota don't even manufacture their own WEC cars

[stiff venture]

Well you aren't HAAS so what that means to you doesn't mean anything

[junior granite]

"TGR will provide design, technical and manufacturing services to Haas, while Haas will offer technical expertise and commercial benefits in return."

[left sun]

Just got off work and watched the quali highlights tomorrow should be a great race. Also Haas have got some crazy pace maybe one of them could get a top5

[vivid ore]

i literally have a diploma in motorsport engineering and several contacts through the industry as well as prior racing experience myself, i know how this stuff works

[lunar quartz]

well theres ur answer whens the last time you saw a rational f1 opinion on there

[left sun]

Maybe Oscar can do what Lando did last year and cut through the field

[junior granite]

they do iirc, they have an in house team in germany

[vivid ore]

yeah so i'm pretty much bang on, it's a normal sponsorship deal but rather than financial backing it's "we'll make parts"

[stiff venture]

Sure, let's see. We will find out in time.

[junior granite]

design services

[vivid ore]

isn't that a GR plant though, rather than toyota?

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/max-p1-verstappen-verstapenn-win-winner-gif-9994117068647617302

[junior granite]

gr is toyota

[vivid ore]

i could be wrong to be fair

[vivid ore]

well call me an idiot i thought they were just a partner firm

didn't realise they're a subsidiary

[junior granite]

yeah

i just don't see why they'd enter a technical partnership if it didn't eventually lead to something more. this would be an easy way to slowly increase their role without enormous front end investment

idk though

[vivid ore]

well, ayo did himself make it very clear that this isn't toyota coming back

it's business talk though, "we're just doing this to support each other and get some benefits" is the basic translation

[junior granite]

yeah so if they drop they have an out

[raw plaza]

how has this season turned out like this love it!!!

[safe merlin]

25 will be better

[vivid ore]

yeah, obviously it could do really well for TGR generally to work on modern f1 cars & parts since they're so technically advanced compared to super gt, WRC, rally raid, even current hypercars - also looks great on the company to have an association with what the world sees as the absolute best of motorsport

haas obviously get a lot of benefits with advisory services from toyota as the largest manufacturer in the world

[raw plaza]

Let’s enjoy the present

[safe merlin]

i didnt mean it in a bad way tho

[vivid ore]

it's a partnership that i see working really well in that sense even if i would like to see toyota buy a team out and have a full-on return

[safe merlin]

i agree but cant wait for 25

[junior granite]

until one team figures out their shit

[vivid ore]

it's turned into an absolute belter, i was so ready to watch red bull run off with it again but i'm glad it's closed up as much as it has

[raw plaza]

Yea 💀 if red bull keep checo no wcc fight for them in 25

[junior granite]

goes back to domination

[raw plaza]

Ferrari have two good drivers so won’t be a driver domination next season

mclaren also have (ignore Oscar performance today) 💀💀

[vivid ore]

speaking of technical partnerships, andretti-cadillac 2028 anyone?

[junior granite]

i thought the rumor was that cadillac wants to do it without andretti

[vivid ore]

oh they absolutely do

[stiff venture]

Yes

[vivid ore]

but they've signed the contracts, so andretti will use GM power units for 2028

i can't see cadillac (luxury car manufacturer) coming in as their own team if andretti (well-established global motorsport powerhouse) have been rejected so publicly

[junior granite]

cadillac is trying to establish a sportier reputation

ct4 and 5 are very sporty cars, they have a hypercar program

[vivid ore]

they're doing really well with that in WEC/IMSA, i just don't think it's anywhere near enough to persuade F1 yet

[junior granite]

fucking alpine has one production car out and they're in, red bull isn't even a car manufacturer

[vivid ore]

again, andretti have been at this for decades and have a signed, planned partnership with one of the largest monopolies in the world of motorised vehicles

cadillac are still not perceived that way generally and definitely don't have the overall heritage to back thrm

[junior granite]

it doesn't matter what the company does

they're not getting rejected because of that, they're getting rejected because of diluted money pool

[vivid ore]

alpine have a huge legacy reputation in motorsport, particularly rally, and are effectively a rebrand of the existing renault team which had been well-proven since they bought lotus

red bull lucked tf out with when they bought in

RB literally just threw money at their problems and signed all the best staff and it absolutely paid off

[stiff bough]

well-proven to be dogshit, that is

[vivid ore]

reputation does do a lot when it comes to convincing a board of historic, legacy teams to let you join their sport though

money pooling is a different issue but they have the funds and a competent accounting team given how many motorsports they run in actively so i daresay they can follow the cost cap lmao

[vivid ore]

hold these podiums

[stiff bough]

as recently as 2022 otmar said they werent even operating at the cap

[stiff bough]

Should be wins and titles given they were a works team for a long time

[junior granite]

GM is one of the biggest car manus, if that doesn't do it than nothing is

[stiff bough]

but since Renault wants to half ass their program

[vivid ore]

tbf it's a high cap, with all the restrictions on private testing n shit it's not surprising that only 3, maybe 4 teams are nearing the cap

those 3 being red bull merc and ferrari obviously, the 4th probably mclaren

[vivid ore]

as well as andretti being one of the largest teams across all global motorsport, it's just the teams being very anal with the concorde agreement

it's less of an F1 issue, definitely much more the teams not wanting another genuine threat on the grid

[stiff bough]

Technically, the teams don't have a say in whether or not another team can join

[vivid ore]

i just want my gainbridge yellow cadillac-andretti f1 cars

[stiff bough]

But as far as the commercial side goes, I think FOM genuinely just don't want Andretti if they aren't a works teams on day 1

[vivid ore]

yeah that's why andretti are pushing legal cases against liberty isn't it

it was at least spoken about, i vaguely recall it

[vivid ore]

way i see it they effectively would be

the only other team that may use cadillac/GM/however they're branding them engines would be haas, as the other americans

everybody else is quite locked in with what they've got

[weak mountain]

ones which liberty will likely brush off

[vivid ore]

obviously f1 looks at that and says no but i just can't understand why

[vivid ore]

probably, but it's still not a good look on liberty to even have to deal with that

[weak mountain]

you know this is rather a wasted effort given they have a chance at 2028 now having moved michael out of the way and they finally have gm onboard which they didn't when they presented their team originally

[vivid ore]

the FIA approved them, it's F1 (owned by liberty) that said no

[vivid ore]

yeah, it definitely looks stronger now

i have no doubts they'll be on the grid in '28 but it could've been sooner

[junior granite]

liberty just got sued for ticketmaster stuff no

[vivid ore]

that's ticketmaster being shit rather than liberty (for once)

[junior granite]

liberty owns it

[vivid ore]

ticketmaster? no they don't afaik, that's livenation

unless liberty own livenation

[junior granite]

wait

[vivid ore]

well fuck i'll be damned

[stiff bough]

Right, so I think FOM would rather they join when Cadillac has an engine ready to go, and not before that way Andretti doesn't end up pulling the rug from under them and get an easy slot as a privateer

[vivid ore]

liberty-livenation-tm

[junior granite]

according to this random site liberty owns 30% of live nation

[vivid ore]

liberty are majority stakeholders yesh

[mortal crane]

.truth

[jade mural]

Prost > Senna

[junior granite]

so yeah there's no guarantee that they'll brush off a potential investigation

[vivid ore]

i actually didn't know that, i thought livenation were like the top of the events industry bullshit

[lunar quartz]

fuck liberty

very unfitting name tbh

[vivid ore]

fuck ticketmaster, [REDACTED](i am contractually obligated not to say anything bad about livenation), liberty are genuinely alright

[weak mountain]

it is worth noting liberty has experience in these things

It has to be noted as well that Liberty got a lot of successful experience here which includes the EU regulatory system. Back in 2017, they successfully lobbied against any investigation into their takeover of F1 among other anti-competitive allegations regarding the Concorde agreement and tax affairs, even when such calls goes as far as a successful vote by the European Parliament and being pushed by some of the F1 team

[lunar quartz]

ticketmaster are actually a disease

[vivid ore]

ah yes lobbying

american political speak for underhand bribery

[lunar quartz]

i had to deal with them for the rbr show lately i wanted to die

[junior granite]

does the fact that they're a US company being investigated by the US govt change this

[drifting wagon]

ticketmaster got me 91st out of ~80k people for a coldplay concert

maybe in the future it wont be as generous but for now i have good relations with it

[vivid ore]

ticketmaster has only failed me twice (foo fighters 2023, oasis 2025) but i hear absolute horror stories

if the website didn't completely shit itself when it's put under menial load it wouldn't be too bad

[vivid ore]

the concepts of the queueing systems are perfectly sound, they're just underinvesting in server capacities when they have the market monopoly

bearing in mind ticketmaster also operate gigsandtours, livenation direct sales, multiple sports venues and teams, see tickets, gigsinscotland...

the only time ticketmaster have truly fucked me over is when the eras tour went on sale and i was going to buy a ticket for a local band from seetickets, seetickets entirely went down and i had no way to get a ticket

[junior granite]

the wikipedia page for ticketmaster

[vivid ore]

oh yeah they definitely have underhanders with scalpers

before foo fighters' first presale began there were already tickets being sold on at triple the price, by the time i got through from 40th in the queue it was sold out

same again the following day, then general sale absolutely ripped it

it's not like the competitors are any better though, AXS were apparently utter bollocks for sam fender's december tour

wouldn't mind them being in control of it all if they actually worked consistently and gave back to the lower ends of the industry, like enter shikari and coldplay have done with donations to music venue trust/music venue properties/save our scene

[turbid escarp]

willy is a professional yapper

[vivid ore]

i am

[turbid escarp]

[patent hedge]

aint reading all that

[turbid escarp]

fr

[vivid ore]

[winged dagger]

SMOOTH OPERATOR FOR THE SECOND TIME THIS SZN TMR?

[winged dagger]

but yeah i think podium will be SAI VER LEC

[vivid ore]

i beg man i've been waiting for the sainz comeback arc

[winged dagger]

norris can be 4th

[vivid ore]

i reckon it'll be SAI-LEC-VER but it's not gonna be an easy one for max

those ferraris are quick, max and lando have a tendency to race each other too hard and lose too much time

if charles can dispatch them both by the first stops he's safely p2, we just need carlos to have p1 again vy lap 10 or so

[autumn hazel]

guysss is it true
Someone said Lando got dsqed from qualifying

[winged dagger]

we might actually see leclerc surpassing norris in the WDC right

[vivid ore]

they're bamming you up, no such thing

[winged dagger]

bc the rocketship is no longer there. MCL was 3rd fastest in quali

[vivid ore]

it's possible at this rate, ferrari could well win the title now

[winged dagger]

I think they’ll surpass RB after Mexico

[vivid ore]

48 points between the top 3, closest it's been at this stage in the season since 2012 iirc

[winged dagger]

Bc Checo is out in Q1 😭

[stiff bough]

and they've also got something about the acquisition of Dorna in the euro courts or whatever

tbh I hope they win it because Dorna is genuinely terrible for motorcycle racing

[vivid ore]

lol yeah checo isn't getting points, if he does it won't be many, or enough to delay ferrari for long with their current form

[winged dagger]

technically leclerc can still fight for the title right

[stiff bough]

The amount of regional series just neglected or disappearing because Dorna only want to prioritize the Spanish market, and even with WSBK it wasnt until recently that it started getting more and more attention

[vivid ore]

ferrari only need to outscore red bull by 11pts to be p2 on monday

[vivid ore]

i mean yeah but it's nearly 80pts to verstappen with what, 4 races to go?

[winged dagger]

5 atm

[tough bough]

It’s not likely for Leclerc to win WDC

[winged dagger]

but Sainz is more likely winning it he doesn’t screw up that often

[vivid ore]

that's virtually insurmountable, if he did manage it it'd rely on max having 4 absolute stinkers (pointless) then the 5th doesn't matter as long as leclerc wins them all

[winged dagger]

i meant the Mexico race

not the WDC, I think it’s mathematically impossible atm right

[vivid ore]

mathematically piastri could still win, barely

sainz is out of it by 6pts

[winged dagger]

Ik that Hamilton and Russell can’t win the WDC mathematically right

[tough bough]

Not impossible mathematically but very very unlikely to happen

[winged dagger]

Hamilton and Russell r officially out mathematically right

[vivid ore]

unless there's still a sprint to go? i forget

[tough bough]

I want to believe Max will hold his title

[winged dagger]

brazil and qatar

[vivid ore]

okay then sainz is still in by 12pts

[winged dagger]

for this and brazil i don’t think the MCL will be faster than the RB

[vivid ore]

but that's obviously not happening

[winged dagger]

whats the gap between sainz and hamilton

[vivid ore]

more than 12

[winged dagger]

30 something right

[vivid ore]

38

[stiff bough]

he's on the cusp of being out mathematically

[winged dagger]

i think Sainz will either move up to 4th or stay 5th in the WDC

[vivid ore]

after tomorrow sainz is out regardless of where he finishes as long as max finishes p4

[winged dagger]

i don’t think hamilton will surpass him

[vivid ore]

carlos is likely to overtake piastri though, and leclerc norris

which is wild considering some of the showings mclaren have had this yesr

[winged dagger]

ferrari will be the fastest car from COTA until abu dhabi i think

[vivid ore]

that's generous, there's a lot of very different circuits

[winged dagger]

so I think Leclerc will finish 2nd

[winter cove]

Crazy prediction that actually happened!!!

[vivid ore]

ferrari have gone well on streets though, vegas should be a good weekend for them

mclaren are a solid threat though since they've also done well on street tracks this year

red bull could be very hit or miss

[winged dagger]

what is interlagos

[vivid ore]

looking back across the season mclaren have done well at tracks with similar characteristics to interlagos

but although their car is strong with flowy, medium & high speed corners, i still think ferrari will outdo them at interlagos

verstappen will probably win in abu dhabi just to seal off the title season

[winged dagger]

do you guys think carlos is on track to have his best season in his career?

[vivid ore]

carlos already has hasn't he

[winged dagger]

idk close between 2023 and 2024. 2024 was better until Silverstone then he became a bit weird

But now he should be back on track

[vivid ore]

nope, 2022 was his highest scoring season at 246 points

[winged dagger]

Leclerc’s best season is def this season tho

[vivid ore]

so yeah carlos is on track to beat that convincingly

[gray vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/leclerc-charles-dance-moves-gif-17546977

[tulip pagoda]

checo being out in Q1 in mexico is actually crazy. its offensive to danny that he got booted when checo is acting like a sauber and yuki is crashing again

[winged dagger]

3 wins and 2024 was a slower car

[vivid ore]

correct statistically, 308pts and 2nd overall in '22

he's on 275 atm

[winged dagger]

keep in mind there were 22 races in ‘22

[vivid ore]

even then he's still already matched his overall wincount for '22

with solid chances to improve on that

[winged dagger]

not surprised if he’ll have a 4th one in vegas. leclerc is solid in vegas, iirc pole last year?

[vivid ore]

yep, could've won that one too

[winged dagger]

i remembered alonso and leclerc were tied on points last year but alonso’s best finish was above leclerc’s right

[vivid ore]

206pts apiece, fernando had 8 podiums to leclerc's 6

i think fernando got one more p2 than charles which would've sealed it

[hushed olive]

I predicted a Carlos pole and the mercs being in top5 and below

[vivid ore]

nope they both had 3 P2s, it was fernando having two more P3s that sealed 4th for him

[winged dagger]

crazy how alonso carried that tractor even with a fell off aston martin in the 2nd half

[vivid ore]

i mean he did get very lucky with that podium in sao paolo

[winged dagger]

defended well against perez and was barely P3

[vivid ore]

mad though, only finished one race outwith the points

[winged dagger]

like u can compare w stroll

[vivid ore]

stroll is not a benchmark lmao

at least not a good one

[winged dagger]

tbh he has potential

[lilac spade]

What did Checo do bro P18 😭

[vivid ore]

what does checo always do

[winged dagger]

or, had* since 2019

[lilac spade]

Yeah that’s true

[winged dagger]

but never improved since then

[vivid ore]

this is looking yummy

[vivid ore]

man literally got a pole in undriveable conditions and you say he didn't improve

[winged dagger]

will 7th be hamilton’s lowest finish ever?

[vivid ore]

yes iirc

[winged dagger]

bc i think russell’s def overtaking him

[civic ridge]

this gp is taking over my chance to finish my assignment due tomorrow and study for my exam on tuesday. TOO MUCH DRAMA

[winged dagger]

should’ve been P6 alr if he wasn’t disqualified in spa

[vivid ore]

yes, 6th in 2022, 5th in '09 & '11, 4th in '10, '12 and '13

[snow swan]

damn what happened to Oscar

[vivid ore]

the rest we all know

[vivid ore]

fell off (the kerb + the track)

[snow swan]

😭😭😭

[winged dagger]

did oscar and checo crash

[vivid ore]

had a bad first run, cucked himself with track limits, clouted a kerb

[vivid ore]

no they just had stinkers

tsunoda was the only casualty

it was a really good quali tbh i'm gassed for tomorrow

anyway i should sleep it's past 1am, have this as a parting gift

[autumn sluice]

Checo will also lose his seat 2 more than lance and yuki

[winged dagger]

in a RB crazy

haas will def cook then frfr

I imagine Hulkenburg finishing P7 tmr

[karmic geyser]

hülkenberg podium incoming

trust me on this guys 🙏

haas is actually decent now

[sudden leaf]

Watching the re-play for qualiii and FOMO is really kicking me cause I missed it when it was live

[winged dagger]

and two good drivers. kmag is v underrated imo

[karmic geyser]

hülkenberg and k-mag is a really solid lineup for a team like haas in paper

i am quite interested abt how ollie and esteban will turn out

[winged dagger]

ollie has some potential as a rookie but i don’t think he has as much potential as doohan or kimi/franco

[lime fog]

does anyone know what the trophies for the race are going to look like? im curious

[karmic geyser]

franco was an bombshell tho

nobody knew him like 5 races ago and he is just overperforming

[winged dagger]

i think bortoleto should stay as mclaren reserve driver for a szn before joining the grid in 2026

[lime fog]

?

[karmic geyser]

i dont have allat high hopes for jack, considering its an alpine but it would be cool if he pulled a colapinto aswell

[winged dagger]

the racing genes run in his family i have hope

[lucid gale]

bro i just got back and saw the quali highlights. so our mexican doesnt get it but another spanish speaker does. does that count?

[karmic geyser]

idk ask the mexicans

[lucid gale]

they both speak spanish

[winged dagger]

how do u guys view spanish ppl tho

[sharp oxide]

When you say daddys home

[karmic geyser]

i heard they viewed them as not so skibidi i am afraid

[winged dagger]

not the brainrot

[turbid escarp]

come on ray

[lime fog]

i genuinely dont get it

[turbid escarp]

oh god ray

[lime fog]

im talking about the gp tomorrow

[turbid escarp]

i’m well aware

[copper oasis]

Losing hulk is a mega fumble

[copper oasis]

It's 1519 all over again 😔

[warped lotus]

Hulk fumbled tbh

Haas getting mega competitive now 💀💀

[copper oasis]

Tbf tho Audi seemed a better prospect back at the beginning of the year. Until, ya know. We learned more

[warped lotus]

Yea for sure, the Toyota partnership now too is just gonna be playing on hulks mind now

One day that podium will happen

[cyan saffron]

I really like to see what's happening at Haas right now, Komatsu turned me from a Haas hater into a Haas fan.

And I'm really excited to see what they can do next year with Esteban and Ollie.

[stiff bough]

I don't think he really gives a shit about that Toyota partnership

[vernal holly]

https://fxtwitter.com/f1bigdata/status/1850286307303469476

[copper oasis]

The Toyota fan base is wild.

Look back like 5 months and Haas team pointsposts get like 5 likes. Now every post gets thousands.

Like overnight they came out of nowhere.

Or, like me, they all just detested steiner

[winged dagger]

until we know their engine will be weak asf in 2026

they do have more time to work on the 2026 car w new regulations tho

[proper monolith]

bruh my alarm didnt go off and i missed quali

[copper oasis]

Shame, was a good quali

[winged dagger]

excited for the race

[copper oasis]

Maybe we'll all be suprised. I have low hopes tho

[winged dagger]

driver lineup for audi is hulkenburg and someone else right

[copper oasis]

Yeah. Last seat available on the grid

Not surprised they're taking their time. They know they've got the last seat, why rush

[forest cedar]

Sergio "Minister Of Defeat" Perez

[twin fox]

Piastri and Perez out in Q1??? What happened there?

And sainz on pole, out qualified leclerc, how did that happen ????

[foggy ermine]

Man Checo cooked

[twin fox]

Lol

[foggy ermine]

Time to hang it up bb

[twin fox]

But seriously, what happened? Especially with Oscar?

[stiff bough]

track limits for oscar

[foggy ermine]

Checo did a bad job, Oscar had time deleted went wide

[stiff bough]

perez skill issue

[winged dagger]

Sainz just put on a crazy lap

[twin fox]

Again? That's sad

[gentle verge]

I mean he was also just slow

Didn’t have the pace that he had yesterday unfortunately

[twin fox]

Oh

[winged dagger]

SAI LEC VER NOR RUS HAM HUL MAG PIA LAW

point finishers prediction

[ocean thunder]

Back to back ferrari 1-2 would feed generations

[twin fox]

Fr

[winged dagger]

Liam was actually about to make it to Q3 and then Yuki crashed

[twin fox]

Oh, unfortunate

[winged dagger]

Yuki wants to compete with Liam so bad. Got salty ever since Liam finished above him in COTA

Honda is leaving RB after 2025 so no chances of him staying or promoting to the father team

[snow swan]

he's gonna join amr ig

[winged dagger]

He’s a mid tier driver. Would he do better than Perez? Yes

[winged dagger]

But he isn’t attracting enough sponsors and is just not good enough to be in a RB seat. More deserving than Perez though but anyone could be.

I prefer Liam getting promoted. He is inexperienced, sure but he has a lot of potential and could develop at a fast rate

[keen skiff]

that car looks too good to be that slow

[wicked wing]

hulk is the only one confirmed, in my opinion the other seat is going to either franco or valtteri, but Zhou is almost gaurenteed out of the running for the seat

[blissful lotus]

Checo out in Q1 is such a Sergio Perez thing to do

[copper oasis]

Imagine 35 million not being enough to buy you a seat at the worst team in F1

Fucking harsh

[winged dagger]

are they still considering bortoleto

tbh those who want him in the seat are brazilians w no wheel knowledge

[foggy ermine]

Sainz had an amazing quali dudes super good

[timber oxide]

The british media tantrum will be legendary if Norris and Mclata bottle both championships with the fastest car

[foggy ermine]

Yes he’s the clear choice and I think RB knows this probably one of the reasons why Ricciardo had to go

Fuck it though get Colapinto in that seat baby

[timber oxide]

Tbh the second red bull seat should be the hardest seat on the grid rn

it's a machine of destroying young drivers and even a veteran like Checo is strugging so much to be consistent

First driver get all the attention and the goodies and you are on your own in more than one sense

And as we are seeing now, red bull will boost the academy driver's drama to divert the attention on the car being shit and the team imploding.

[crisp mason]

what happened to checo in quali?

[timber oxide]

he was reporting problems with the brakes

[crisp mason]

same as max or?

[crisp mason]

ah i see, rip his home race

[timber oxide]

fossaroli asked him now that he was p18 why not change everything and start from the pitlane and he said there are no spare parts for him available

[small lodge]

I can't defend checo anymore, but i will still support him Sadge

[timber oxide]

fucking red bull don't have shit 😭

i don't think Max side of the garage is much better, so one big accident and he will be in big problems

[small lodge]

Surely his engine doesn't explode

[wicked adder]

verstappen is very underrated

[raven wagon]

Hes properly rated

[wicked adder]

mas take the 2ºwhile perez got only 18º

[timber oxide]

that new floor seems to work well

[raven wagon]

Everybody keeps talking about him, not like hes gone under the radar or something

[timber oxide]

car is driveable at least

[crisp mason]

he had brake problems so it wasn’t on him

[timber oxide]

i think checo still have the one made from spare parts, duct tapes and girl's hopes and dreams

[crisp mason]

fr

[timber oxide]

Piastri bottle was a surprise but a welcome one for me

1-3 or 2-3 for us this weekend and we will be so back at the WCC

[fringe vapor]

imagine charles pulls a 2007 and wins the whole thing

[raven wagon]

Ill believe that if Charles gets the gap back down to 31 again

[timber oxide]

that would need a Max DNF or two

or not getting points for 2 races

[craggy marsh]

cheering for it as a mclaren fan lmao

lando has been abismal at chasing the title it’s honestly sad

[stiff bough]

idk what you guys were expecting

[snow swan]

in recent memory, lando is one of the worst (if not the worst) hyped up title contenders

[craggy marsh]

fr

[snow swan]

also the max bot has a lando norris fan role ? 😭

[craggy marsh]

he’s not even beating max with a apparently much better car

[snow swan]

and lawson doesn't even have a bot

where is my goat in p20

it goes from ocon to zhou

[snow swan]

tbf the only car that can beat that rb20 is the rb20 itself

This did not age well...

P17 Perez pls

[pokes stick] do something...

[distant iron]

Haas having another solid qualifying

[snow swan]

I was impressed by them

[distant iron]

P7 and P10

[dawn zealot]

Never know, half the grid could DNF and the stewards hand out penalties like candy again. He might make the podium lol

[snow swan]

They've really charged the mid field this latter portion of the season.

[distant iron]

Aston got more points in the beginning but Haas is no doubt the fifth fastest team on the grid right now

[snow swan]

This just in: Cartel interference detected after 19 of the 20 drivers on the grid receive 30 second penalties.

[distant iron]

A haas podium would be nice but with the top being competitive, I find it unlikely barring a miracle

[snow swan]

Perez surprised: I won?

[dawn zealot]

I see a Haas podium more likely than a Perez podium

[snow swan]

Haas outdoing RB on potential podiums (excluding max ) is just diabolical

[distant iron]

Hulk’s not gonna have any more likely podium chances until 2026 if he lasts

So he’s gonna have to make do with what he has right now

[snow swan]

Q2 radio for Max was hilarious.

"The rear tyres are tricky in sector 2"

"What does that mean Max????"

[long pause and audible frustration] "it's got no grip man!"

[vale rose]

that mclaren is not a better car

[civic ridge]

mclarens car sometimes is the best but also not depending on the weekends upgrades and track

[peak river]

I’m so worried for tomorrow

[blissful lotus]

Why's that

Carlos might win, I'm not too worried

[dawn zealot]

Bro's mainlining hopium

[wet sequoia]

Slowmode still enabled

What did you guys do (Again)

[dawn zealot]

Oh wait Carlos not Checo. Yeah he might

[wraith salmon]

Hi

[blissful lotus]

better go to specsavers

[peak river]

Please remind me not to get into a fight with someone else tomorrow

[hazy dew]

Will Sainz win or lose in the end?

[golden vale]

He will take off and max and lando will fight. Then ferreri will screw him over in someway as usual.

[thin berry]

No they won’t, he screws himself over most of the time

Ferrari hasn’t had any big strategy blunder this year, this isn’t 2022 anymore

[golden vale]

true but he will fumble the bag somewhere

[thin berry]

Yeah him, not Ferrari, there’s a difference

[golden vale]

true

[thin berry]

The issue is he’s a tyre eater and they often have to adapt mid race because he can’t make them last

Cause he’s always doing glory runs

[civic ridge]

i think it will end up with lando and max fighting for the win

[wet sequoia]

Unsure about Max with car issues all weekend

Worst case for him is another Australia with something blowing up

Best case is a podium

[civic ridge]

i feel like everytime max has problems it always gets sorted and he wins bar australia

na i want to hold onto the fact i saw max's only massive blow up in person this year lmao

[wet sequoia]

Norris eh, feel like Leclerc has a better chance

[thin berry]

Leclerc: am i a joke to you

[civic ridge]

its the ferrari equation tho, one good weekend (last weekend) = two bad race weekends

i love ferrari they are my second favourite team but like they do love to fuck up

[thin berry]

Not this year

[wet sequoia]

Maybe before Vassier they loved to give Ferrari fans health problems from Hopium/Copium overdose

Vassier is a goofball with a no fuck around attitude

[civic ridge]

they have most def had they moments throughout the year

[wet sequoia]

All teams besides McLaren have had roller coasters issues with their cars

Although I’m unsure what happened with Piastri today

[paper atlas]

Y’all reckon Ferrari gonna win this one?

[civic ridge]

he ate the curb too much

[thin berry]

That and also it’s the same pattern as when Jean todt and Schumacher arrived, the team hits rock bottom and so they hope the new guy will save their ass so they give him carte blanche

[civic ridge]

last weekend was their weekend of a bad car tbh, but still they got decent results

[thin berry]

Sent out too late, only had one attempt and that attempt was deleted for track limits + he locked up anyway

[wet sequoia]

I know, I saw his qualifying

They also have a new floor so unsure if he had issues with that as well

Well he locked up his first lap

Track limits second

[civic ridge]

yeah he ate the curb too much in the second lap silly oscar

[craggy zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[wet sequoia]

As long as he storms into the points and does damage control against Ferrari I’m happy

I don’t expect the next 4 races after Mexico to have the same drama

Unless Norris DNF’s at Vegas again 😐

Then I’like start being worried about Ferrari winning WCC

[echo urchin]

i assume bcuz his tyres were fucked. he did 2 push laps within like the last 4 mins

[civic ridge]

he needs to pull what lando did last year at mexico

[thin berry]

He’s just washed smh we should kick him to the curb 😤

[wet sequoia]

Kick who 👀

[civic ridge]

who we kicking

[thin berry]

Piastri

Bro clearly lied on his resume

Where’s the generational talent

Why is he not fighting for championship

[wet sequoia]

Ok Mia, we need to sit down over a bottle (Box) of wine and discuss this

[thin berry]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

(I’m trolling lmao)

[wet sequoia]

(I know)

[gilded socket]

…. I was about to say

[wet sequoia]

If you were seriously though…

[gilded socket]

I was about to get into a fist fight

[wet sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/jaime-lannister-draw-sword-sword-aight-bet-gif-24683366

[gilded socket]

Good old Jamie

[thin berry]

Wait if I’m serious do i get wine because i could very convincingly defend that argument

White wine, please, not too dry

[gilded socket]

Haha

[wet sequoia]

Oof, sorry, it would be Ric Red

[thin berry]

sigh

I’ll try it. I do love Pinot Grigio

[gilded socket]

I’m not much of a wine drinker so ima walk away

[wet sequoia]

Good idea

Speaking of good ideas I’m going shopping

Bye

[thin berry]

For wine?

[regal needle]

Good Morning Team. It's Race Day

[stiff venture]

With Ferrari's 1,2 tomorrow ferrari will make a big jump on rbr in WCC and closing that gap to mclaren

[wet sequoia]

No, I have half a bottle of Johnnie Green I don’t like that someone bought me to finish

Blended scotch 🤮

[wet sequoia]

I don’t expect Piastri to get into a turn 1 tussle so I’m expecting damage control

If Sainz gets away after 3 laps Ferrari have the best chance of a 1 2

[stiff venture]

what do you mean?

[thin berry]

I can’t do scotch or whiskey for reasons i will not disclose here

(It involves a birthday and me severely overestimating the amount of alcohol that would send me into orbit and paying a steep price for that miscalculation)

[wet sequoia]

Piastri starts right in the middle of backmarkers/midfielders and there is usually an incident into the first corner

[stiff venture]

he is starting in the back

[wet sequoia]

DM me the details, for curiosity not potential blackmail

[thin berry]

https://tenor.com/view/poul3-f-r3veil-p-gif-10988460833755738340

[wet sequoia]

Yes, right between backmarkers midfielders

[stiff venture]

what does he has to do with ferrari's 1,2?

[gentle verge]

What would constructors points be for them if they got a 1-2?

I think they’re at 496 rn?

I can remember

[stiff venture]

43

[gentle verge]

Damnnnn

And McLaren 544

That is crazy they can actually steal it

[stiff venture]

yeah so they will get around a 30 point swing

[gentle verge]

Makes me sad knowing Sainz going to Williams next season. Him and Leclerc are cooking so hard and I don’t want it to end

[stiff venture]

nope, sainz needs to go. he is not a good teammate.

[gentle verge]

🥺

Damn

Should’ve known with your Piastri role!

[stiff venture]

He is a good driver but he is too selfish. He fights leclerc more than other drivers. When they could be workign together to get good results. Leclerc does support him when needed but sainz always wants to be in front.

[gentle verge]

I love when they fight

😈

[stiff venture]

Piastri does the same thing as sainz. which is why I think either him or lando will leave to rbr

[gentle verge]

Pffft nah

[stiff venture]

not next year but for 2027 yeah. If not rbr then ferrari or AMR.

[gentle verge]

2027!

[stiff venture]

I dont see them lasting together past 2026. I think 2026 is the year things will boil over

[gentle verge]

Damn crazy prediction s

!remind me 3 years from now

[stiff venture]

haha okay

I would be surprised if one of them leave after next year. It depends on how the year plays out but if they are close and fighting consistantly it will get to the point they will both look for a new home. 2027 will be around the time lewis and alonso will look to retire so it opens up those slots. Rbr could be open if max moves to those teams or Piastri might just take the rbr seat next to max since he isnt scared of him.

[thin berry]

I don’t think Piastri gets asked much which is a team issue

He’s not going to volunteer to take a step back if no one tells him to

[thin berry]

It’s entertaining on track but ultimately most of the time very silly strategy wise

Sainz just doesn’t know the time and place

[stiff venture]

idk, I have an issue with how in F1 you are forced to beat your teammate over working together. So when I see teammates fighting it seems kinda of pointless.

[gentle verge]

Fair fair

[thin berry]

Technically you’re not “forced”, it’s actually a balance

[wooden kettle]

kind of agreed, i wish i could see more team tactics
i feel like i hardly ever see any

i do still kind of like the rivalry aspect of it though it IS entertaining

[thin berry]

Like ofc you have to believe you’re the best, but you also have to be able to play the game or you’re not an asset

I mean look at sainz and leclerc, Leclerc also believes he’s the best, he’s not shy about saying it but their attitudes are vastly different

[proven leaf]

Tbh it’s his last few races at Ferrari

And the fact that you most serious rival in formula 1 is your teammate may contribute to that

[thin berry]

He was like this way before that though, that’s probably one of the main reasons he wasn’t kept

He’s part of Fred’s big spring cleaning

[proven leaf]

That sounds like a yard sale 😭

[snow swan]

both haas cars in q3, what multiverse am i in?

[proven leaf]

And both Aston’s out

In q2

With only a sauber below them

Bottas in a sauber better than Perez

Tf

[snow swan]

haas's partnership with TOYOTA GAZOO Racing paid off.

[proven leaf]

They underdpgs

[thin berry]

Honestly we’ll pay you to take rueda away and I’m fairly sure we paid binotto to leave asap

[proven leaf]

They be paying Audi to take binotto fr

[snow swan]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-coroca-gif-9112257082821794556

[late bear]

wonder how it feels for Lawrence Stroll to spend million on a f1 team just to be outperformed by a team with 10x lower of a budget

[regal needle]

I'm unsure about that

[wet sequoia]

He got Newey he doesn’t care

[stiff bough]

The target is 2026, and he knows how the game works. He's been in and around the paddock for many many years now

[formal falcon]

wait whos selfish

[wet sequoia]

Sainz

[edgy moat]

فكيووووووووووووووووووووو

[random rain]

What happended yesterday

[barren rock]

ferrari doesnt deserve him, he is a championship fighter

[barren rock]

Sainz Quali Pole

[random rain]

second and third?

[formal falcon]

oh how?

srry for replying late

[gray marsh]

2nd row start for piastri and perez

[hasty musk]

hello, do you support ferrari?

[wet sequoia]

Even before he got the news he’d be booted from Ferrari he drove very much for himself and never took responsibility for any accidents he caused

[formal falcon]

oh damn

[proven leaf]

*9th

[granite trout]

Dude perez is awful, give me ricciardo back

[subtle crest]

Not sure if he’d be any better but I like him more than Checo so bring him back

[wet sequoia]

Ricciardo may not even be the safe option anymore

I’m still backing Lawson

[lilac nova]

[radiant wind]

/crashgate

.crashgate

[jade mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418152690044895242/1114872005737578577/crashgate.mp4

[fathom silo]

a

[snow swan]

I think Sainz will win tmr

[red pecan]

Who's on pole? I was sleeping.

[sweet zenith]

my news channel called carlos sainz as ca-la-s s-ai-n-z

[sweet zenith]

carlos

[red pecan]

Nice!!

[regal needle]

Max should be able to get a Strong Start later in Mexico

[bleak briar]

Smooth Operator

[granite osprey]

Whos winning tonite

[pine spade]

Bottas was faster than Oscar and Checo with Sauber

[granite osprey]

I bet 200 swedish kronor on lando

[sweet zenith]

wow

[granite osprey]

It will backfire

[stable galleon]

…

Spot on

[opaque forge]

We love crashgate🙏

[errant marlin]

Sainz > Leclerc

[opaque forge]

Too bad bro is gonna be fighting for P12 next year😭🙏

Perez is gonna do crazy in mexico city karting league tho🥶🥶🙏🙏🙏

[wheat cape]

Points or else he gets crucified by Vowles

[opaque forge]

Nah i'm like 99% sure vowles slept with carlos to get him in the williams😭

[errant marlin]

Alo 3th world champions in 2026

[opaque forge]

Bro's head game must have been unreal

[opaque forge]

ONG🙏🙏🙏🙏

[wheat cape]

literally what sorcery is Williams committing help

[opaque forge]

Adrian newey i beg you
Build a rocket ship for alonso and my life is yours

[oblique junco]

north seniatle island tractor racing aint ready for bro 🥶

[opaque forge]

Tbh i feel like carlos should have settled for 1 year with merc

[wheat cape]

alonso wdc 2025 please

[opaque forge]

2025, 2026, 2032 IDC JUST GIVE THIS MAN A CHAMPIONSHIP

[wheat cape]

antonelli screaming and crying in the background LMAO

[raven wagon]

He alr has 2 🤓

[wheat cape]

he needs to FINISH THE TRILOGY

[opaque forge]

Shut yo bitch ass up🙏

[wheat cape]

2 is never enough lets go for a record
Alonso 10 time wdc trust

[opaque forge]

Tbf daddy toto was not gonna let kimi not have a seat next year

Have you seen how that man grasps kimi

[wheat cape]

the iron grip that man has on kimi is so funny to me he is NOT letting him get away

LITERALLY

[opaque forge]

That's some parental instinct😭🙏

[raven wagon]

Carlos is not gonna join a team knowing hes a seat warmer

[opaque forge]

Christian horner licking his lips the second toto looks away

[wheat cape]

toto desperately trying to make up for losing max

[opaque forge]

Fr
As soon as kimi joined F2 toto was just waiting for his super licence to throw him into F1

Not giving horner another driver😭

Imagine if max did actually go to merc in 2017 instead of going to redbull in 2016

[wheat cape]

An underprepared rookie who had potential but got thrown into f1...can't see where this ever happend before
( )

[regal needle]

Kimi has been with Mercedes Junior since 6 Years before get ready for F1

Like, It's been a while for him

[wheat cape]

max in merc is something i dont think ill ever see in my lifetime tbh

[raven wagon]

Except Antonelli has much more f1 experience than Logan had before they debuted

[opaque forge]

Thing is logan had absolutely 0 experience in an F1 car
Kimi has had a bunch of experience

[wheat cape]

im gonna eat those words in like 4 years or sm

[opaque forge]

Nah he's 100% going to aston🙏

[wheat cape]

that is also true
maybe kimi will adapt fast

[raven wagon]

Plus Colapinto was way more underprepared than Logan yet performed miles better

[regal needle]

Maybe if Kimi can go for Higher Position for win just like Max did in 2016, It might happen

[opaque forge]

I think if colapinto gets a seat he's a future world champion🙏

[wheat cape]

if he is, alonso will be gone

atp its delusion to think stroll will leave am LMFAO

[opaque forge]

Nah i think Lawrence is starting to get fed up with lance

[opaque forge]

I'm a ferrari fan it's what i do

[wheat cape]

i cannot believe he doesnt have a seat for 2025

[wheat cape]

thats so real

[opaque forge]

It's criminal

He better get that sauber seat

FUCK bortelleto

[wheat cape]

saw someone on twitter say that next year theyre gonna have Franco watching carlos and alex in the garage as a looming threat like "If you mess up the argentinian takes your seat" 😭

[opaque forge]

Send that mf to the abyss (becoming a reserve driver)

[regal needle]

James planning to keep Franco as Reserve Driver in Williams after Carlos join as heard from Free Practice 2 Interview with Sky Sports

[wheat cape]

dude i legit forgot he existed

[regal needle]

He still trying that Option

[wheat cape]

red bull junior academy is the real abyss

[opaque forge]

I think as long as the sauber seat is open colapinto is gunning for it

[opaque forge]

Poor liam😭

[wheat cape]

yuki fighting for his life

[wheat cape]

with the sauber car he might as well become a truck driver

[opaque forge]

If they don't put yuki or Daniel into checos seat i'm kicking helmet marcos elderly ass🙏

[wheat cape]

girl i think daniel got sent to the fifth dimension

[raven wagon]

Danny Ric is done

[opaque forge]

Let me be delusional😭

[wheat cape]

the ferrari is coming out now

[raven wagon]

Its Lawson vs Yuki for the Redbull seat

[opaque forge]

Fuckin hell, cant a bitch yearn?

[wheat cape]

itll probably be liam
isnt there the whole honda thing with yuki

[opaque forge]

It's always out😔

[opaque forge]

Depends on how liam does these next races

[wheat cape]

this weekend looking great tho 🤷
ferrari 1-2 twice in a row? (im coping)

[snow swan]

Ferrari

[regal needle]

Ferrari had been Faster since 2022

[opaque forge]

If that happens i'm sploogin everywhere

[stiff bough]

I don’t see why his Honda affiliation is a barrier

It’s not like Red Bull and Honda ended on bad terms guys

[wheat cape]

me watching Piastri fight Haas cars while Norris is fighting for podium

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[opaque forge]

Poor piastri😭

He ate up helmut tho

[regal needle]

Nope, False

[opaque forge]

"It wouldn't be a weekend without some comments from helmut marco"

[wheat cape]

he always does (i am nr piastri glazer)

[opaque forge]

Fair i will always be an alonso glazer

My sister is sick of it😭

She's a newer fan who thinks alonso is washed ;-;

[wheat cape]

someday we'll get that alonso p1 again

[opaque forge]

If i am able to witness that alonso 33rd win my life will be complete

I will die a happy woman

[wheat cape]

alonso racing antonelli is crzy

[spare pivot]

ANTONELLI MENTIONED

[opaque forge]

Bro's career is older than bro😭

[wheat cape]

oh god here he comes

[opaque forge]

I'm almost certain Colapinto is gonna be a world champion if he isn't banished to the deepest realms which is being a reserve driver

[regal needle]

Kimi is much Younger

[spare pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/andrea-kimi-antonelli-kimi-antonelli-waving-hello-wave-gif-11288267501795692706

[regal needle]

18 Years now

[opaque forge]

Shout out to mick Schumacher

[regal needle]

He will be 20 in 2026 if Mercedes sign a Renewal Contract for him

[spare pivot]

i am manifesting his wdc

[wheat cape]

Vowles will not let him go easily

[opaque forge]

I swear he can just... leave no?

[wheat cape]

He will be a looming threat to Albon

[opaque forge]

He'll be a looming threat to most peoples seat😭

[hallow glen]

Mexico is my favorite track im super excited for this race

[stiff bough]

After his contract is up yeah

[opaque forge]

Tbh i like that F1 next year is getting a fuck ton of rookies
I feel like there's too many mid drivers tbh

[wheat cape]

i would be more excited if it wasnt at midnight for me 90% chance i fall asleep before it even starts

[opaque forge]

No offence @stiff bough

[hallow glen]

And Carlos getting pole is great too but i hope Max wins

[regal needle]

Kimi will get a Renewal Contract Later in 2025, Don't worry

[wheat cape]

doohan, antonelli, bearman, alonso

[opaque forge]

Also probably liam

[hallow glen]

Will doohan be in audi ?

[regal needle]

Ollie already got a Multi Year Deal to drive with Haas until 2026 with Esteban

[opaque forge]

No, alpine

[regal needle]

Jack is Alpine, He stays

[hallow glen]

Damn

[wheat cape]

lets see if ollie survives esteban ocon LMFAO

[opaque forge]

Poor kid😭

[stiff bough]

I don’t see why he wouldn’t

[regal needle]

Esteban might be Careful

[hallow glen]

Audi lineup is boring af

[regal needle]

His First Debut was with MRT in 2016

[opaque forge]

We don't even know it fully😭

[wheat cape]

hulk really playing the long game

[hallow glen]

nico might be in audi

[opaque forge]

He'll get that podium eventually

[opaque forge]

He's confirmed

But the second seat isnt

[wheat cape]

he CANNOT leave f1 without one bro

[hallow glen]

I hope its Vettel

[regal needle]

Esteban had Podium you know

[opaque forge]

Ehhhhhhhhhhh

I doubt it

[opaque forge]

And a win

[hallow glen]

Esteban won a rane

race*

[wheat cape]

its about as miniscule as danny coming back

[regal needle]

Yep

[opaque forge]

😐

[wheat cape]

LMFAOOO

[opaque forge]

Not cool😔

[hallow glen]

About audi

Which team will leave

[regal needle]

Harry Benjamin might join Sky Sports after BBC 5

[opaque forge]

Kick sauber

[regal needle]

His Quote always: It's all eyes to the Lights and Foot to the Floor!

[hallow glen]

They should 😭

[opaque forge]

Visa cash app bad dragon febreeze armani exchange hugo racing bulls are here to stay🤪

[wheat cape]

i legit cannot stand that name
everytime ive had to explain f1 teams to a non f1 fan they go what the fuck

[opaque forge]

REAL

bring back toro rosso😔

[wheat cape]

"So the next team, visa cashapp RB-"
"visa cashapp what"

[wheat cape]

EVEN ALPHATAURI WAS BETTER

[opaque forge]

FR

[hallow glen]

Force india?

[regal needle]

I think RB will stay Sponsored by Visa and CashApp for sometimes

They might get New Sponsors One Day

[wheat cape]

whatever gets the bag atp

[hallow glen]

Red bull should make energy drinks

[opaque forge]

There was a time where toro rosso was faster than redbull

[wheat cape]

i agree

[regal needle]

They do

[hallow glen]

cause like “red bull energy drink” would prov make u better at driving

[wheat cape]

the days when RB junior team looked like RB junior team

[regal needle]

We even got Red Bull had a Skydives Action

[wheat cape]

what are yall predictions for this race tbh

[opaque forge]

Fr

[opaque forge]

FERRARI 1-2😛😛😛

[surreal meteor]

hamilton winning

jk

[opaque forge]

Max and lando out of points for the rest of the season so leclerc and ferrari win the championship🙏🙏🙏

[surreal meteor]

nah

[opaque forge]

It'll happen trust