monaco-gp

[copper oasis]

The people who worship senna would have hated watching him race

[winged dagger]

norris crossed the finish line before max right chat i fell asleep it was 3:30

[west yoke]

yes he did

[raven wagon]

His 10 sec pen for the Austria incident, his 5 sec pen in Monza 2018 etc

[peak current]

FIA for the rescue again

[west yoke]

bros bringing up 2018

its 2024

[rugged grove]

wild

[west yoke]

and in 2021 he was barely punished for his unfair ass racing towarfs LH too

[raven wagon]

Like I said, hes been penalised a lot for his "dirty" moves, not like he got away scot free all the time

[sudden niche]

WTAF

[stiff bough]

it was probably just an example they knew off the top of their head

[sudden niche]

LIAM POINTS

HOW

[west yoke]

he does when hes in an actual championship fight lmao

[little linden]

Hell yeah

[rugged grove]

lewis was the same m8

Max deserved 2021

[little linden]

Put him in that redbull already

[raven wagon]

He got 2 10 sec pens for Saudi 2021, which is totally fair

[west yoke]

lewis was way cleaner than max in his prime

[raven wagon]

He got grid pen for his Monza 2021 incident

[west yoke]

lewis was a very fair driver to be a 7x wc

[rugged grove]

think of last race, lewis cut an entire chicane no penalty

british drivers always favored

[winged dagger]

AND HE CLIMBED 70 PLACES FROM HIS 60 GRID PENALTY THO BRO STARTED IN EL PASO

[west yoke]

thats why lando got the mickey mouse penalty today

[copper oasis]

Maybe Lando should just qualify second

[rugged grove]

deserved

u cant do what he did

[west yoke]

just admit that max wins but is terrible to watch when he races somebody else bevause you already know hes just gonna throw the car in the apex and argue he was ahead

[west yoke]

where else was he supposed to go with max torpedoing on his inside

genuinely

it is so braindead

[raven wagon]

And yet ppl love Michael even tho he basically drove like what Max does today, make it make sense

[west yoke]

and how did max not get penalized for the lap 1 incident either

[copper oasis]

Lap 1

[little linden]

Him keeping lando behind for like 10 laps was not terrible to watch

[junior granite]

because no one actually watches those old races

[fierce pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/lewis-hamilton-bahrain-gp-celebration-win-grand-prix-gif-25443506

Who cares

Lewis did this

[little linden]

Had me on the edge of my seat

[junior granite]

so all they see is stats

[raven wagon]

Cause its lap 1 turn 1, plus not the first time a driver forced another off at the same corner

[rugged grove]

HELL NO

[west yoke]

yes you cant defend it so just bring up other drivers, just admit max is not fun to watch when he races other people and only wins because he will crash into anyone trying to pass him

[west yoke]

it was clearly intentional thougy

[rugged grove]

nowherre, but he gotta reutrn position

he was the one trying to overtake

[west yoke]

yes so why did the FIA not ask him to?

[rugged grove]

max is on the line so lando gotta get past

[copper oasis]

For all the shit we here about how the cars are too fat and long for good racing Holy shit was the racing in the 80s/90s fucking boring. Nearly every overtake is from someone's engine exploding

[stiff bough]

i said it in chill chat, but for a move to be valid, it should be that (whether defending or attacking) you need to keep it within the track without forcing the other driver off (outside the white lines). Because this bs where Max's defense was valid because he braked so late he was technically 'ahead' at the apex is just dumb

[west yoke]

max also went off track

[junior granite]

yes

[rugged grove]

if he had reutrned the position like he should have then no penalty

[junior granite]

people are too nostalgic for old things

[copper oasis]

They changed that rule years. Teams are supposed to police themselves now

[rugged grove]

engineer told him about it smh

[raven wagon]

Oh so was what Lewis did to Max in cota 2021 at the exact same corner intentional too?

[rugged grove]

exactly

[west yoke]

yes

it was

[copper oasis]

I mean I'm not either of your sides I'm just keeping the facts straight lmao

[west yoke]

but so was this bro

[rugged grove]

i respect that

based Haas enjoyer

sad that ur getting ocon next year lol

[west yoke]

idk why you think ill disagree just because lewis did it, i am just a sensible person with an actual sense for the rules and equality

the penalty for lando was not deserved whatsoever

[copper oasis]

Being a Haas fan is actually peak.
Because if we fuck it up then, meh whatever that's business as normal.
But then when we have a good weekend it's legendary vibes. Literally can't lose

[rugged grove]

🤓

[rugged grove]

real

[copper oasis]

I thought your complaint was you don't like the rules?

[rugged grove]

i just enjoy good racing

[wet sequoia]

Just like Williams fans

[rugged grove]

like i want lawson to do super well cause im from nz

[raven wagon]

Landos words not mine

[wet sequoia]

Except they won’t have Colapinto next year

[west yoke]

i dont, but im also not gonna say one thing max did was unfair and then when lewis did the exavt same thing say it was fair, they both did unfair moves

[rugged grove]

crazy he might not have a drive

[copper oasis]

Only difference is Williams has known greatness. Most their fans rn probably weren't alive to see it though

[rugged grove]

nah imagine he goes to rb LOL

perez to audi

[sudden niche]

Why did Leclerc get ahead of Sainz

Was that strategic?

[rugged grove]

fym why

nah he was just ahead

[sudden niche]

Sainz qualified ahead

[rugged grove]

he got 1st on the first corner

[copper oasis]

If the stewards decide it was fair then... Well that's it. They could appeal it if they thought it was unfair

[rugged grove]

so ahead of all

[stiff bough]

So when Max went off in T1 on the first lap, that should be an instant give the place back because the move isn't valid once you as the attacking driver, go outside the track. Same with when he was defending from Lando, the defense would become invalid because you didn't keep it within the track and the guy you were defending from wasn't given a car lengths space either.

In my rules, the 'fully alongside' or 'ahead at the apex' bs wouldn't exist. It would purely be if x part is alongside y car, they are entitled to space and that's it

[sudden niche]

Oh nice

[rugged grove]

sainz overtook max but charles was already over a second out

[wet sequoia]

They can’t appeal anything that happens in the last 3 laps

[rugged grove]

highlights are out yeah

good race

great track

actual fun sprint

W weekend

[copper oasis]

What? When did that rule get added?

[stiff bough]

like

idk

this year

[rugged grove]

source please?

[wet sequoia]

Gucci posted the rule earlier

[copper oasis]

That's insane lemme look this up

[stiff bough]

article 17.3 of the sporting reg

[rugged grove]

yeahfr

why though what

cause its already over at that point?

[rugged grove]

interesting

[stiff bough]

So because the decision took so fucking long

they can't appeal it

[rugged grove]

yeah it came through so late i was confused

they fell asleep on the job

[copper oasis]

Well I'll be damned. That's wild

[stiff bough]

this is why we need a permanent stewarding team

shit doesnt get done in a timely manner

and for many more reasons than tha

t

but thats the one im currently annoyed most about at this minute

[rugged grove]

how would you guys rank the rookies on the grid this/next season btw?

Bearman, Kimi, Lawson, Collipinto, Dohan (is that it?)

[copper oasis]

Can't appeal lap deletion anymore either

[rugged grove]

well thats alr

[stiff bough]

I would say Bearman and Lawson will probably perform the best relative to their teammates next year

but Colapinto rn?

[rugged grove]

cause usually its pretty clear

[junior granite]

looks like colapinto and lawson are at the top but we haven't seen enough of the rest of them

[stiff bough]

I think he's been best

for this year anyway

[rugged grove]

lawson you assuming will be in VCARB?

[rugged grove]

yeah fair

[stiff bough]

yes

[rugged grove]

Lawson future WDC fr fr

[copper oasis]

Bearman V Ocon what do ya think

[rugged grove]

NZ GP here we go

[stiff bough]

if he is in that Red Bull... idk it'd be up in the air

[rugged grove]

rip bro

[stiff bough]

I think it'll go better than most are anticipating.

[hollow jackal]

latifi doesn’t score points once again 😭😭

[stiff bough]

don't joke about that please

[junior granite]

ocon will shit on bearman

[copper oasis]

I just hope ocon doesn't actually kill the poor lad 😭

[rugged grove]

mb mb

[stiff bough]

because it will get you banned fyi in the future

[rugged grove]

LOL

oh i didnt know soz

5 second penalty for ocon

[stiff bough]

yes

[junior granite]

I like ocon feels like he's slept on

[stiff bough]

figuratively and literally

[copper oasis]

Haas promo videos getting freaky I guess

[rugged grove]

Ocon or gaslythough

[copper oasis]

Really wish it was Bearman and Hulk or Magnussen

[winged dagger]

Ocon is not a bad driver

But

[rugged grove]

Nico...........

HULKenburrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg

[wet sequoia]

Lawson is technically not a rookie

[copper oasis]

But hey maybe Ocon won't be so threatened by a rookie and won't maul him into walls

[rugged grove]

sort of i suppose

but he has raced what, 6 races now?

Him and Alonso beef so funny

[copper oasis]

Rookie til your first season is done right? And he hasn't had a full season sooooo

[wet sequoia]

5 last year and if you do more then 2 your not a rookie

[rugged grove]

but Liam won in the end

[junior granite]

I want ocon to stay on the grid so we can at least pretend the sport is merit based

[rugged grove]

no?

[copper oasis]

Real

[rugged grove]

first season is 'rookie season'

[cyan saffron]

It's rawe ceek. (again)

[rugged grove]

real

[twin fox]

Oh no, wth happened in the race ???? 😢
P4?????

[rugged grove]

he has a cool sotry

Stroll lol

[rugged grove]

4th on first corner

[junior granite]

he's also supposed to be really nice

[copper oasis]

Motor racing happened

[rugged grove]

Lando momento

[stiff bough]

For me I keep the rookie definition very simple, it's any driver who is in their first full season of a given series, and I only nullify that definition if they have completed more than half (50%) of the current season they're competing in. The FIA's definition of a rookie is a driver with less than two (2) Grand Prix debut's, but that's just because of rookie FP1 stuff

[twin fox]

Seriously? 💀😭

[copper oasis]

Yeah man. It wasn't great for him

[junior granite]

pushed wide by max and then the Ferraris passed

[rugged grove]

yep

[stiff bough]

So technically Bearman isn't a rookie next year either

[wet sequoia]

Next year will be Lawson’s first full year (Hopefully)

[rugged grove]

it was a good start but him and max went wide

[junior granite]

start itself wasn't too bad

[rugged grove]

then lerclerc went from 4th to 1st

[wet sequoia]

But at that point Lawson will have done 11 races

[twin fox]

😡

[rugged grove]

so yeah half rookie ig

[copper oasis]

Lost a lot of time trying to cover max up the inside tho. And the ferrari's had mega starts

[junior granite]

they did

[wet sequoia]

So Lawson will definitely not be classified as a rookie, same as Colapinto if he gets a seat

[junior granite]

maybe he could've done more to prevent it

but on a relative scale his start wasn't that disasterous

[wet sequoia]

They have performed extremely well on the call up though

[copper oasis]

I feel like if they hadn't both been so deep into the corner trying to run the inside it might have gone different

[junior granite]

yes

[twin fox]

Dang it man, so ig that's championship gone.
A good little fairytale story of Lando comes to an end 😦

[copper oasis]

I mean, it's as likely now as it ever was

[wet sequoia]

Verstappen can have another Australia incident

[rugged grove]

he never really had a chance imo

[wet sequoia]

It’s technically not over until it’s confirmed

[rugged grove]

ofc

[copper oasis]

Engines just don't blow up like they used to tho

[wet sequoia]

It’s just the odds have went further against Norris

[rugged grove]

yeah what happened in australia was pretty crazy

10 WDC just watching

[copper oasis]

New engine regs tho so, maybe mechanical dnf's will make a return

[rugged grove]

2024 was a good year for me to get into f1

like i followed a little before

[feral lance]

whoops, missed the gp

[junior granite]

is this something we want

[twin fox]

I hope he does, else it would be another boring end to the season

[rugged grove]

but like watching when i can and all that

[wet sequoia]

Like before this GP I gave Norris 30% chance of winning WDC

Now it’s about 15%

[rugged grove]

i couldnt watch the race cause it was at 8am and i had to go out so ill watch the rest later (i watched till like lap 10)

[junior granite]

15% is still crazy high

[twin fox]

Yea, fair

[copper oasis]

I don't want Bern Mayländer to be unemployed 😔

[rugged grove]

i can watch mexico though lesh go

[wet sequoia]

It’s only because McLaren still have a potential upgrade to come and they haven’t failed yet

[copper oasis]

Race is too boring. Release the unsafety car

[rugged grove]

thoughts on 2026 cars?

personally i prefer the ones now, they just look dope

[wet sequoia]

Faster and smaller

[rugged grove]

i thought they were slower

[wet sequoia]

A possible improvement already

[rugged grove]

smaller is good though

[junior granite]

yeah but merc seems to have shit itself so there's way less opportunity for them to take points off verstappen

[rugged grove]

cause my god that moncao GP almost put me to sleep

[wet sequoia]

For now, but predictions are to be faster

[rugged grove]

i see

[raven wagon]

Monaco has always produced shit racing, no matter the car size

[rugged grove]

new gen Fe is in 2027 right?

[rugged grove]

real

[raven wagon]

If a 1992 car can just block the entire track to not let the driver behind past, its def a track issue

[copper oasis]

I don't like how far they're cutting the downforce. And the new games with battery charging are concerning.

I don't actually think the size matters as much as people say. Like I said earlier, go watch some races from the 80s/90s. We have way more overtakes now than ever before. We just need to ditch tiny tracks.

[junior granite]

cutting downforce means less dirty air no

[wet sequoia]

Still have Ferrari, still have Piastri, it’s a long shot because the Red Bull upgrades have worked this weekend

[rugged grove]

i agree

more race tracks rather than street circuts

whats the battery thing again>

[copper oasis]

I'm curious to see what this final movable aero thing is too

[wet sequoia]

ERC?

[rugged grove]

still 3rd best on the grid imo though

[narrow garnet]

at first, but 100% it'll find its way back in later on in the reg cycle

[rugged grove]

but more competitve

[junior granite]

i don't think piastri has the pace to consistently challenge verstappen

[rugged grove]

compared to when they stepped back with the 'upgrades'

[junior granite]

and ferrari has always been super inconsistent

[rugged grove]

yeah

[junior granite]

its long shots on top of long shots

[rugged grove]

isnt DRS gone also ;/

[wet sequoia]

Piastri has gotten a fair handle on tyre management so yes he can fight Verstappen

[echo escarp]

Yepp

:(

[stiff bough]

Colapinto, definitely not. You wouldn't know if he was a rookie this year anyway if nobody told you though

[rugged grove]

I think piastri will win a WDC before lando

[narrow garnet]

But the active aero basically acts as DRS on the straights anyway

[thorn haven]

x and y mode or whatever the fuck theyre calling it

[narrow garnet]

so it cancels that out

[stiff bough]

Clearly his racing in other disciplines has helped him well in his ovr racecraft

[copper oasis]

A huge portion of the cars power comes from the battery now. Drivers have been talking about how you'll be spending most of your engine power recharging the battery for the straights, leading to some really boring racing that just comes down to "who has more boost". At least that's Max's concern and it sounds reasonable.

[echo escarp]

Its MOM now I think I forgot what it means, something override mode?

[rugged grove]

chromosome mode fr

[echo escarp]

Idk how to feel about it

[rugged grove]

damn

[thorn haven]

manual override mode right

[rugged grove]

max retiring after 2026 then LOL

[narrow garnet]

2026 is basically DRS at all times on the straights for everyone

[echo escarp]

Yes yes

Thats what I was thinking

[copper oasis]

We're getting rid of DRS in favor of a movable aero component that reduces drag that you can only activate in certain places.
Oh cool cool.... Wait a minute

[rugged grove]

DRS is so goof though boo

[stiff bough]

From what I understand, Max and Red Bull's comments on the PU were from an outdated sim version of the regulation, and that it's not the case in the newer, more updated one

[thorn haven]

not really

[rugged grove]

drs with extra steps

[copper oasis]

Could be. We're still pretty in the dark about a lot of it

[rugged grove]

i think it is cool for racing

[thorn haven]

then whyd you say it was goofy

[junior granite]

is it not just drs all the time + p2p -esque system

[hushed wadi]

drs will be scrapped???

how the fuck did i miss this

[stiff bough]

Yes but no

[hushed wadi]

when was this confirmed

[stiff bough]

awhile ago bro

[echo escarp]

A few months ago

[wet sequoia]

Awhile ago

[hushed wadi]

[stiff bough]

it's not really a removal of it though

[wet sequoia]

DRS hasn’t exactly done it’s intended purpose

[narrow garnet]

well yeah, the rear and front wings will open on the straights anyway

[hushed wadi]

bruh

[copper oasis]

Smth like that. Have they confirmed any more details yet? Might have missed it

[hushed wadi]

that's not completely scrapping it then

[stiff bough]

its a bandaid on a shotgun wound sort of system 😭

[hushed wadi]

drs 2.0

electric boogaloo

[twin fox]

It's more of getting replaced

[hushed wadi]

the end of drs as we know it

[raven wagon]

Its intended purpose was to aid overtaking, which is basically what happened since its introduction in 2011

[copper oasis]

I feel like there's some tracks that would have been pure ass without it tho

[junior granite]

spa has been kind of ass with drs

[thorn haven]

were the tracks ass before the drs

[stiff bough]

Spa this year HAS BEEN ESPECIALLY ASS

[thorn haven]

no

[copper oasis]

Yes. That's why they added it in the first place lol

[stiff bough]

like why tf do cars need a 1s advantage to overtake

[wet sequoia]

Which at times depending on who you try to overtake gets neutralized by the battery pack

[copper oasis]

They didn't just add DRS for no reason

[thorn haven]

so we are having no wheel knowledge

[stiff bough]

i wonder if the real reason for DRS being added was because KERS was useless

[serene jay]

He’s a Hamilton fan💔💔

[thorn haven]

before drs had some masterclass racing (not saying we dont now, but it was amazing)

[copper oasis]

We also had a lot of really boring races

Where mechanical dnf's made up most the overtaking

[twin fox]

Yea about that, what happened to hamilton? A DNF??

[snow swan]

Well today was something

[wet sequoia]

Makes you miss the days before strats and a ton of engineering done from the wall

[wet sequoia]

Spun out same place same way as Russell

[copper oasis]

Go watch some archive races from the 90s and report back....

[hushed wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/formula-one-china-gp-2007-gif-14634081

[serene jay]

He went off track and into a wall I think

[thorn haven]

same with today, what is your point here?

[twin fox]

Oh lol

[twin fox]

Ahh I see

[thorn haven]

i literally have before lol

[copper oasis]

Yeah, you don't even know do you? Because you jumped in 80% of the way into a conversation ass first

[serene jay]

Hamilton has just been out of it this weekend since his qualifying

[stiff bough]

i think today was alright

just the usual racing standards around here

[thorn haven]

its quite easy to tell youre a newgen to the sport

“racing before drs was bad”

[copper oasis]

Didn't say that. I said some tracks were

[stiff bough]

or they dont look at the past through rose tinted glasses

[thorn haven]

.

[copper oasis]

I watched Alonso win his first championship in person. You watch to many YouTube shorts. Don't compare us

[copper oasis]

YEAH. BECAUSE THE RACING WAS BAD

[wet sequoia]

Wasn’t bad

[copper oasis]

No they did it for fun because they hate racing. Pretty sure that's what they said

[wet sequoia]

Just different to todays standards

[junior granite]

what are todays standards

[twin fox]

2010 season? U think that was bad?

Just right before drs came

[wet sequoia]

To much done from the pit wall rather then hard racing between drivers

[gleaming atlas]

racing was incredible before drs, if anything drs has made overtaking so much easier therefore more boring

[thorn haven]

what?

how do i ‘hate racing’ if im backing it up

and youre the one saying its bad

what are you even on about now

[wet sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[serene jay]

True, you used to have to out corner ur opponent and catch up, now once ur within a second u can just fly past them in the straight or divebomb

[wet sequoia]

That’s always being the generic overtaking tactic, get the slipstream and get by

[junior granite]

without drs you wouldn't see many overtakes at all

[wet sequoia]

DRS only reduced drag further for you

[thorn haven]

which increases the skill level

[junior granite]

not saying quanityt is everything drs overtakes can be pretty boring

[thorn haven]

if drivers find it hard to overtake

[gleaming atlas]

yea divebombs are fun still but its removed a lot of intensity when their 0.2 behind you know they will pass

[thorn haven]

they get better

and better

[junior granite]

it does but it can also be very boring

[wet sequoia]

Only in this regulations era, there is alot more dirty air these days

[gleaming atlas]

what???

[junior granite]

yeah

which is i guess the goal of these regulations

[thorn haven]

why do you think people say the goats are people from earlier gens rather than people from the current gen?

[gleaming atlas]

its litterally Drag REDUCTION System

[junior granite]

because its rose tinted glasses

[gleaming atlas]

fangio+mansell

[wet sequoia]

I’m well aware

[junior granite]

and people do say verstappen and hamilton are goats

[wet sequoia]

You’ve missed more of this argument

[thorn haven]

okay WHAT THE FUCK IS ROSE TINTED GLASSES

[gleaming atlas]

because racing was better and it wasnt all the car

[thorn haven]

ive had people say this to me TWICE

[gleaming atlas]

yup and im just going off what im seeing so im sorry if im off here

[junior granite]

romanticizing things because they're old basically

its like people who hate modern cars and say old cars were built better

[wet sequoia]

F1 has always been about the car more then the driver

The best teams with the best cars will get the best drivers because that gives them the best chance of winning

It’s captain obvious shit

[gleaming atlas]

no, its romanticising it because it was better...

drs helps overtaking but slipstream is more than enough

[junior granite]

as far as i know the cars are significantly closer in pace than they have been through f1 history

[gleaming atlas]

depends what part of history your looking at

[junior granite]

except most of the time you aren't close enough out of the corners because of the dirty air

im talking with current aero-heavy cars

[thorn haven]

i searched it up and thats NOT the meaning dude

[junior granite]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection

[gleaming atlas]

we have batery packs now, those could be a very easy substitute

[junior granite]

isn't that basically what they're doing for the next set of regs

using the mgu-h for added power

[thorn haven]

and thats not what you said

[thorn haven]

thats just making things better than they SEEMED

[junior granite]

romanticizing things because they're old

[thorn haven]

not saying its better because theyre old

[junior granite]

close enough bro

recalling th epast more positively

[thorn haven]

not really 😭

[junior granite]

you're just arguing semantics at this point

it means the same thing

[thorn haven]

but like

it doesnt

[wet sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/yiik-yiik-driveby-king-of-the-hill-alex-yiik-yiik-run-gif-25975023

Literally right now

[junior granite]

random site

i know my english i took the act 😭

[twin fox]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-stewart-eat-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-3094746547306242594

[twin fox]

😂

[wet sequoia]

So who thinks Perez will be retired after Mexico

[winged dagger]

ferrari was so rapid without any upgrades

leclerc crazy start

[peak river]

https://tenor.com/view/colapinto-formula-1-f1-saluda-hi-gif-1805536625923781147

[winged dagger]

if colapinto doesnt get a seat next year id be crying

bro was on par with albon and was better in COTA

[peak river]

He give that singer from blur vibes

[brittle tapir]

Get that man in a sauber

[peak river]

https://tenor.com/view/damon-albarn-jumpscare-damon-albarn-gorillaz-blur-parklife-gif-4350884373251638239

https://tenor.com/view/damon-albarn-blur-gif-19298932

[peak river]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-confused-say-what-young-gif-20141667

[peak current]

Another day another robbery from the FIA

[copper oasis]

Maybe the FIA knew you were watching and didn't want you to have a good day

[winged dagger]

yeah involve him in the audi project w nico huuuuuuuuulkenburg

[peak river]

How come everyone hate franco colapinto?

[peak current]

Nah he saw Max crying, that’s why

[echo igloo]

Hwo won??

[vocal lynx]

smth he said over the media

[winged dagger]

leclerc

[wet sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[winged dagger]

ferrari 1-2

[copper oasis]

Ferrari 1/2

[echo igloo]

What happened to max??

[vocal lynx]

yk how drama goes

[winged dagger]

P3

[echo igloo]

Oh man i feel bad

[peak river]

Oh

[wet sequoia]

Everyone hates the Argentina fans

[winged dagger]

norris lost 3 positions by turn 1

[peak current]

Bruh, it’s always some goofy reason

[winged dagger]

😭

[vocal lynx]

fr

[echo igloo]

Bruh so hes liks p6?

[winged dagger]

leclerc gained 3 by turn 1

[winged dagger]

p4

[peak river]

Oh

[winged dagger]

he started on pole

[echo igloo]

Oh ok

[native breach]

Pluh

[copper oasis]

I didn't know they did? All I see everywhere is people mad he doesn't have a seat

[sharp veldt]

he started p1 and ended p4

[winged dagger]

same

[winged dagger]

but he was p4 after turn 1

thats why i said lost 3

by turn 1

[sharp veldt]

i don't see people hating franco. if anything, most people are upset that he's not being considered for a seat

[sharp veldt]

yeah ik

it just happened to be that he started p1, ended p4 by turn 1 and coincidentally that was where he ended the race

[peak current]

Bro Argentina is doing so well, they won the World Cup, have a good F1 driver, and has solid president

[peak river]

https://tenor.com/view/pato-oward-jumpscare-among-us-mongus-among-us-jumpscare-gif-25809500

[sharp veldt]

if there's any hate toward franco, it could be because argentinian fans are known to be toxic (see agustin colapin in indycar)

[peak river]

Is he going to be in F1?

[copper oasis]

Still can't believe pato stole the trophy's

[sharp veldt]

he's one of mclaren's reserve drivers. he's currently in indycar for arrow mclaren, but you'll see him in mexico FP1 doing a rookie test

tho i have my own opinions on pato being in f1 and the like

[peak river]

Cool

[snow swan]

de jure yea de facto nah
(regarding Milei)

[peak river]

I respect that

[peak current]

Milei kicked out all the corrupted ministers, Argentina is so fortunate

I wish my goverment did that

[sharp veldt]

yeah, i think pato should've been in f1, but he never had enough points for f1. he was actually a red bull junior driver (fun fact)

[faint dagger]

It’s like everyone here in Austin knew.

[vernal urchin]

who won?

[faint dagger]

The crowd went crazy for Lando p3 and then everyone was like erm

[vernal urchin]

verstappen?

[faint dagger]

Ferrari 1-2

[sharp veldt]

Leclerc
Sainz
Verstappen

[faint dagger]

Well deserved

[vernal urchin]

ofc.

[sharp veldt]

ferrari was fastest car imo

[faint dagger]

They drove their ass off, respect to Ferrari

I’m not gonna talk about that pity p3

We don’t talk about Bruno

[sharp veldt]

ferrari did well. lawson was my DOTD

[faint dagger]

The whole world saw it

[peak current]

No surprises, that was the most “booo” crowd I’ve seen in F1 until now

[winged dagger]

who was DOTD?

leclerc?

[sharp veldt]

leclerc

[faint dagger]

Cringe as fuck

[snow swan]

in the end hes just a puppet working for the same people that were there before him

[faint dagger]

Like ik the Red Bull fans were silent

Cause they knew

Cringe asf from the FIA

[snow swan]

why do they dislike max so much in texas tf

[sharp veldt]

i mean tbf.... based on how the FIA ruled the whole race, i kinda expected

[faint dagger]

They don’t but a lot of them are like bandwagon asf

They love checo A LOT more

In Texas

Everyone was like

[peak current]

Would he kick out his own people then? Friendly fire? That logic makes no sense

[faint dagger]

Checo hardcore fan

[sharp veldt]

max isn't disliked, but they love checo or danny ric more

esp. checo bc of the lat am support

[winged dagger]

do i expect a huge cheer from checo every overtake in mexico

[sharp veldt]

bro.

what is this question

[faint dagger]

A lot of fans that attended were Mexican like what

[peak current]

They dislike stuff that is not true racing, well the whole world doesn’t like that

[sharp veldt]

mexican fans would prob kill someone if they crashed into checo

[faint dagger]

Ofc they are gonna cheer more than max

It’s almost like redbull fans didn’t care that he got p3

[sharp veldt]

yeah - texas is basically checo's second home race

[faint dagger]

Ferrari dominated the celebration

As they should

[sharp veldt]

literally

[faint dagger]

Cause Ferrari deserved it

Periot!

[copper oasis]

You're assuming Perez will be making overtakes?
Bold

[sharp veldt]

they also didn't bring any upgrades

and 1-2

[faint dagger]

Yeah w Ferrari fr

I love them

[sharp veldt]

also wtf is with haas and texas

[faint dagger]

Wait I have a video from podium here

[sharp veldt]

what buff do they get in texas 😭

[sharp veldt]

HYPE

[winged dagger]

home soil 🦅

[winged dagger]

expect the same in vegas

[vagrant sandal]

just finished the race, surely if they give lando a penalty they give max a penalty for forcing him off track???

[faint dagger]

:3

[sharp veldt]

will they run a special livery in japan now bc of TGR

[peak current]

Even tho Ferrari and McLaren are classic rivals, we still got respect for each other, we are rivals but we have sportsmanship, unlike other teams

[faint dagger]

Anyway hope the blue shit box gives out in Mexico

[sharp veldt]

they were ass in miami tho

[faint dagger]

Cause fuck the FIA

🤷🏻‍♀️

[winged dagger]

melbourne’s the 1st race in 2025 right

[sharp veldt]

yes

[vagrant sandal]

just seems like max once again benefitting from the FIA insanity

[sharp veldt]

jack doohan's first f1 race and it's at home

🥺

[sharp veldt]

!!

[faint dagger]

That’s exactly what it is

[winged dagger]

australia and then whats 2nd

[winged dagger]

japan?

[sharp veldt]

insert the vcarb exploding

[faint dagger]

Just gonna leave this here

And these

❤️

Well played FIA

[copper oasis]

Doesn't look off the track at all. Unfair penalty

[faint dagger]

Let’s not talk about that Oscar penalty

[sharp veldt]

Australia
Shanghai
Suzuka
Bahrain
Jeddah

[faint dagger]

LDOAOSNAHAHAH

[peak current]

Oh my goodness, FIA has been a laughing stock

[vocal lynx]

FIABull

[winged dagger]

no more home races for zhou

😭

[faint dagger]

#FREEMCLARENFROMFIA

#FREEEVERYONE

[sharp veldt]

binotto actually seems more inclined to keep zhou over bottas

soooo

[copper oasis]

No more home for Zhou

[winged dagger]

what da fock

[copper oasis]

That would be the most insane pick of all time

[sharp veldt]

it's bc of the money china brings

[sharp veldt]

it's mostly because the money zhou has from china + sponsorships

[copper oasis]

Audi ain't broke

[sharp veldt]

china money is ridiculous

i also don't think bottas wants a one year contract tbh

[copper oasis]

Yeah I've heard numbers like $35 mill being thrown around

Which, if that kind of bread can't buy you a seat... Whew

[peak current]

Max probably having dinner with the stewards rn

[copper oasis]

Seasoning it with the salt from McLaren fans

[sharp veldt]

i mean zhou isn't the worst driver ever

he's midfield

not a strong midfield driver but still midfield

[winged dagger]

yeah we’ve seen worse

[sharp veldt]

yeah

people say it should be hulk and mick but i'd rather have zhou at that point if it's between zhou and mick

[faint dagger]

Btw haas was on drugs this weekend

What was that about

[copper oasis]

Ehh... Maybe not EVER

[sharp veldt]

im negl they need to just let mick's time in f1 be OVER

[faint dagger]

Like god DAMN

[sharp veldt]

zhou is not a GOOD driver but there's certainly worse than him

like i don't think zhou would be in f1 w/o his money

[copper oasis]

Just... Not in F1 right now

[sharp veldt]

okay yeah. zhou is the worst out of the current grid

but in all-time f1 history no

[sharp veldt]

tho that sauber legit makes bottas look bad

[copper oasis]

Yeah mazepin happened

[sharp veldt]

god i love mazepin

[faint dagger]

😂😂😂

[sharp veldt]

ruined my life

[copper oasis]

Oh yeah the suaber is a disaster

[sharp veldt]

he stole all my money

[peak current]

Then cleaning Max plate’s dirtiness

[sharp veldt]

zhou is still shit but that car is shittier

like i think zhou looks WORSE than he is bc of how bad that sauber is

[copper oasis]

Can't believe Bottas is now 23rd 😭

[sharp veldt]

i mean bottas looking incompetent is bad enough bc that guy was a solid 2nd driver to lewis in his prime

and even could take wins off lewis if needed

[copper oasis]

You uh.. You about done or you think you're gonna be on this for a while
Cool either way

[sharp veldt]

nvm the fact bottas is absolutely dominating zhou worse than max is to perez or albon was to sargeant

[sharp veldt]

i think you need to rethink that one

[sharp veldt]

alex albon number

[peak current]

Whatever I feel like

[sharp veldt]

bottas being dead last when it's usually zhou is actually mindblowing to me

but i do know why zhou is ahead

[copper oasis]

There's no way that car is going to be good any time soon... No amount of Audi or money can save it

[sharp veldt]

i think zhou had the highest finishing place between him and valtteri in jeddah or bahrain

[sharp veldt]

ngl i understand why carlos went to williams 💀

[copper oasis]

100%

[winged dagger]

P11 bahrain

[sharp veldt]

actually y'know who could fix that car

[copper oasis]

Still wish it could have been redbull

[sharp veldt]

carlos is not going there if jos is there

like even if checo left, it's going to be lawson in that seat over sainz

[copper oasis]

Yeah I get why it didn't happen. I just think it's fucking lame

[sharp veldt]

jos is lame

[copper oasis]

True

[sharp veldt]

hate that guy

[sharp veldt]

thx

[sharp veldt]

put latifi and mazepin together

literally would fix sauber

[sharp veldt]

i'm still pretty curious to see how albon and sainz will work out

[copper oasis]

I think albon gets battered

[sharp veldt]

bc since albon joined williams, i don't think he ever had a teammate who could truly challenge him (outside of colapinto)

but part of colapinto's performance has to do with he has nothing to lose since he doesn't have a seat next year

[sharp veldt]

carlos is 100% the better driver. i love alex but realistically he's not that good

[copper oasis]

Sainz drives a master class and ends the season with 22 points 😭

[sharp veldt]

sainz celebrating bc he dragged that williams to p4 😭

[copper oasis]

Fucking tragic

[sharp veldt]

sainz to merc would've been good but toto did want his mini verstappen w/ kimi antonelli

[copper oasis]

And maybe Kimi is the next Max. Who knows

[sharp veldt]

kimi raikkonen should come back to f1

[sharp veldt]

yeah

we'll see

[copper oasis]

F2 result doesn't seem to be very representative of F1 performance anymore so it's hard to tell who would do well

[sharp veldt]

ngl i would love to see colapinto in williams with carlos

no offense to alex

[copper oasis]

You might get it. He's got more sponsors

[sharp veldt]

also am i wrong for saying that the 2025 alpine lineup is prob the weakest lineup that alpine could've gotten

like either ocon or gasly HAD to go - that wasn't negotiable

[copper oasis]

It's all they could get. Realistically no one wants to go to alpine. Even ignoring that the car is a disaster the team itself is constantly eating it's own feet

[sharp veldt]

but i don't think doohan was the guy

[sharp veldt]

yeah ofc

also i think ocon > gasly

[copper oasis]

Pretty evenly matched. Hard to tell really

[sharp veldt]

they're both mid tho

[sharp veldt]

if only the alpine wasn't a tractor

i think ocon/bearman is pretty interesting, tho not sure i like ocon being ollie's first teammate

[copper oasis]

If the alpine was a proper car I think they'd be mixing it up with the Aston's and Haas

[junior granite]

don't they also have different chassis that they swap

[sharp veldt]

def

[sharp veldt]

yes

i think ocon had it this weekend

[junior granite]

which is the stupidest shit ever lmao

[copper oasis]

Because it's fair or smth

[sharp veldt]

meanwhile at williams

Vowles: Alex, we need your car for Franco.

[copper oasis]

Stealing logans chassis was the beginning of the downfall.

And then they just kept putting busted parts on it. Logan never had a chance at succeeding

[sharp veldt]

i knew logan was leaving as soon as they took his car

tho it was rly funny that that happened on albon's birthday

[copper oasis]

Definitely, that was writing on the wall. You just don't do those kinds of things. Especially when you're not even fighting with anyone

[sharp veldt]

ngl logan had potential to do well if he had more time - his performance in bahrain 2023 was not bad and he clearly had confidence

[copper oasis]

Best case scenario they could have scored one point. And like, so what. You're not going anywhere in the championship with that

[sharp veldt]

williams is a hard team to be in for a rookie esp. w/o a lot of preparation beforehand

and vowles didn't make it much easier for logan to try to get some confidence back

[sharp veldt]

yeah ngl i didn't see it worth it

albon would've been the one to score a point tho if anything

[sharp veldt]

how would albon/bearman work as teammates?

[copper oasis]

Problem with Logan is he could just never put a whole weekend together. Sometimes he'd have amazing pace, then fuck up quali. Or have a good quali, and fuck up the race. Or be having a good race, and then spin.
He could never quite get it all at once.

When I heard more about his experiences tho the whole story got incredibly grim... Just feels bad all around. He probably shouldn't have been in F1 but the story still sucks. Hopefully the indy thing works out

[sharp veldt]

i think bearman has the potential to outperform albon (and ferrari is prob grooming him to replace lewis whenever lewis leaves)

[sharp veldt]

i think logan should've been in f1 but only if he had the same preparation kimi, oscar, or franco had to actually see if he could. logan kind of just got thrown into f1 negl

[copper oasis]

I do wonder how long Lewis will hang around for. Or if he's just there to grab the ambassador job then retire.

[sharp veldt]

and i think part of logan not being able to put a whole weekend together had to do with his car not being easy to drive + a lack of confidence on his part

[copper oasis]

Didn't help that they were constantly switching parts on his car

[sharp veldt]

like im not sure what i'd expect him to do if he's driving a car with parts from 2023

[sharp veldt]

yeah

his best race ironically was silverstone

which is ngl the most american thing ever

real question: why is daniel ricciardo so popular in texas - he's not as popular as checo, but he is really one of the most popular f1 drivers in texas

[serene jay]

Cuz it’s Danny ric

[candid shoal]

i could talk abt this for hourssss he was unprepared and got this america loving personality thrown onto him and with oscar there too i can only imagine the pressure of being the only american on the grid and williams clearly pushing this onto him to make him a character or whatnot

[copper oasis]

And his head must've been fucked. Article I was reading was him saying he doesn't have his friends and family out there so besides his few days a week in the sim he was just sitting in his hotel room by himself.
And as a guy away from home currently sitting in a hotel room it's mad depressing. I feel for him

[sharp veldt]

i think there's a lot of interviews from american drivers in motorsports saying similar stories to logan

about how it's very hard to do well in a very eurocentric environment

[copper oasis]

I would bet money that's why it's so rare for one to be successful. Life is hard without your support network

[sharp veldt]

like checo, yuki, and zhou do get a lot of heat too

out of all the non-european drivers on the grid rn, i think franco and checo are prob the most well-received. zhou gets a shit ton of hate, both for his driving but also racism

[serene jay]

Logan made it all the way to formula 1, that in itself is an achievement

[copper oasis]

Their teams also make efforts to reach out to them and do things with them. Logan was just.. In his hotel alone.

Idk too real for me rn. Shits depressing as hell

[sharp veldt]

yuki gets a lot of racism too

[serene jay]

Unlucky career

[sharp veldt]

ik there were rumors that communication between logan and vowles broke down halfway through the year

[copper oasis]

Not surprised, if I was Logan I wouldn't want to be around vowles either

[sharp veldt]

i think it was apparent early on that vowles really didn't agree with the decision to bring logan on for 2023, but there was nothing he could do and he stuck with him for 2024 just to save face

[sharp veldt]

but i don't think it had to do with the academy. it was mostly "logan had a rough go his first year, but our car was also a living tractor"

[copper oasis]

Maybe. Personally I'm not on the vowles hype train. I've heard him say a lot of very positive words but until I see some results it's still all just talk. They've gone backwards in the constructors, not forwards

[sharp veldt]

i think vowles is good and bad for williams

i kind of am surprised he's sticking with albon tho

[livid cobalt]

ferai

[sharp veldt]

tho albon is kind of the williams child rn

[copper oasis]

Time will tell I suppose. Some of the commentators glazing him saying Williams will be fighting at the front by '27 are insane tho

[sharp veldt]

i think carlos in that williams could be similar to max in the rb20. the car isn't great (the williams will prob be worse than the RB20 realistically), but he's going to be overperforming the car

[livid cobalt]

the williams front nose is weird

[sharp veldt]

albon's not bad but once he actually has a competitive teammate, it's lowkey over for him

[sharp veldt]

the whole williams CAR is weird

[livid cobalt]

ehhh but the front nose is a literal square

[sharp veldt]

actually i lied

[copper oasis]

Well see. Once max started battering him his performances went to shit. I'd be worried that if Sainz outclasses him badly the first few races he'll spiral

[sharp veldt]

the sauber is worse

[livid cobalt]

how will that benefit the car

[sharp veldt]

wait yea

that shit is l^2

[livid cobalt]

yeah well kick sauber gave up on their car two seasons too early and thats why valtteri and zhou have a doomed career

[livid cobalt]

valtteri has a backup sport

[livid cobalt]

thats 23'

[sharp veldt]

yeah sauber is done

[sharp veldt]

cycling career

[livid cobalt]

not too sure about zhou

i love zhou but sauber just doomed his career from getting to any good teams

[sharp veldt]

zhou does some modeling bc he's an ambasador but ik for a fact valtteri just does cycling

zhou is rly popular in china

[ripe goblet]

i miss logie bear

[sharp veldt]

so i don't think he'd have that much problem finding a non-racing backup career in china

[livid cobalt]

oh yeah he could do modeling after but a backup sport like what valtteri has is probbly gonna be hard for him to find

[ripe goblet]

modelling

[copper oasis]

I was trying to pull two pics to compare but one didn't load lol

[sharp veldt]

i don't think zhou is gonna be doing another sport if it's not racing

unless he goes to another racing series

[livid cobalt]

yeah

[ripe goblet]

i'd like to see zhou in indycar

i think he'd fit

[livid cobalt]

with logan sargeant

america

[sharp veldt]

prema: logan and zhou

zhou was prema f3 when charles was in f2 no?

[ripe goblet]

AMERICA CAW CAW CAW EAGLE 🦅 🦅 🇺🇸 🔥 🔥

[livid cobalt]

zhou was in prema before so he could be in indy car

[sharp veldt]

and logan was prema f3 with oscar

[copper oasis]

Zhou to indycar would be a wild move

[livid cobalt]

yuh

[candid shoal]

china also is pretty big on racing besides the jokes celebrities like wang yibo who is huge in china is also a racer and an actor almost as famous named zhou yiran is also huge on motorsport (and actually has pictures with charles) so there are definitely spaces for zhou to thrive and be loved there

[sharp veldt]

yeah

[slow ravine]

Fortunate son playing in the background

[copper oasis]

Asian lemans is huge

[sharp veldt]

part of zhou's appeal also IS (as he's mentioned before) he's the first f1 driver from china to make it and he wants to show the little chinese kids watching f1 that china can make it in motorsports like that

[ripe goblet]

zhou in motorsport where have i hear that before

[livid cobalt]

what other option does zhou have

[junior granite]

every single f1 driver that leaves people say "oh send him to indycar"

bro

[ripe goblet]

kimi to nascar

[sharp veldt]

a lot of indycar fans treat indycar like a graveyard for f1 drivers

ngl

f1 retirement home = indycar

[livid cobalt]

isnt ferrari like a graveyard for f1 drivers

[junior granite]

i feel like most people who say that don't watch indycar

[copper oasis]

Well, for starters I don't think that's really an option.
There's formula E, Asian le mans, or Elms

[junior granite]

indy has its own very talented pool of drivers

[sharp veldt]

also aston imo

[ripe goblet]

indycar = MLS saudi league

[junior granite]

people aren't gonna take fucking

zhou

[sharp veldt]

put seb with lance

[ripe goblet]

Pat o'ward

[livid cobalt]

unless you''re lance obviously

[sharp veldt]

lance is the nursing home employee

[copper oasis]

Formula E is genuinely a graveyard for other open wheel series though

[ripe goblet]

pato o ward

[sharp veldt]

he can't leave

[serene jay]

U either go to Ferrari at the end of ur career or Williams or something

[sharp veldt]

PATO 😭

also herta

[ripe goblet]

formula e is like

[junior granite]

some of them dual season with WEC

[sharp veldt]

who tf is in fe besides like

[ripe goblet]

indycar but the cars look like the brown things that come out of my rumpus

[sharp veldt]

de vries?

wasn't de vries briefly in fe

[ripe goblet]

debris?

[copper oasis]

He was so good he was a champion actually

[ripe goblet]

on the track?

[junior granite]

de vries is stilli n FE?

i think

[ripe goblet]

Call in the safety car

[sharp veldt]

De Vries behind.

Debris?

De Vries.

[junior granite]

he was at least in FE for 23-24 season

[sharp veldt]

safety car was back today

missed that bitch

[junior granite]

but quite a few drivers went from FE to WEC

[sharp veldt]

can the safety car come back

[sharp veldt]

yeah

[sharp veldt]

is it more common to see ex-f1 drivers go to indy or wec

[ripe goblet]

guys i got a collectors item

[livid cobalt]

i can only hope that zhou stays racing

[ripe goblet]

haha none of you can get this

[junior granite]

i would say WEC

[sharp veldt]

i actually would like to see zhou in racing but not in f1

[livid cobalt]

what if sweetcorn takes the 25' sauber seat and wins all the gps of 2025

[copper oasis]

Yes debris is in FE rn(24/25season). So are vandoorn and Maloney

[sharp veldt]

maloney...

[copper oasis]

Zane Maloney?

[sharp veldt]

can they just get rid of the fia and let leo, roscoe, and sweetcorn run the show

[junior granite]

there were around 20 ex-f1 drivers in le mans this year

[sharp veldt]

and simba

and max's cats

and like all of alex's pets

[copper oasis]

Most importantly legendary HertzJota driver Jenson Button

[sharp veldt]

the albon pets account has enough to fill like three stewards panels

[livid cobalt]

genuinely hope zhou stays racing somewhere

[sharp veldt]

like i'd be down for a horse to make decisions

[junior granite]

zhou is forgettable as hell

[sharp veldt]

zhou to wec?

[copper oasis]

Why

[livid cobalt]

i like him

[copper oasis]

Also why

[livid cobalt]

because i like him

[sharp veldt]

i only rly remember zhou for that crash

[junior granite]

doubt it

[sharp veldt]

and sweetcorn

[copper oasis]

Good enough reason I guess

[ripe goblet]

aww man

[copper oasis]

Tf is sweetcorn

[sharp veldt]

is there's a chinese wec driver for ferrari 83

[sharp veldt]

his cat

[junior granite]

yifei yi

[livid cobalt]

the only points zhou scored this season were grill the grid points 😔

[junior granite]

he's been good this season

[ripe goblet]

i gotta go to school tommorow even though we had a horrid storm

[sharp veldt]

just skip

[ripe goblet]

ok vaper

[livid cobalt]

"just skip" and he gets buried in 46 pounds of homework the next day

[copper oasis]

Fuck it, sweetcorn to Sauber then

[ripe goblet]

send my dog in there

[livid cobalt]

great minds think alike

[ripe goblet]

race engineer

[sharp veldt]

i skipped one college class and i had a whole semester of work to do in 2 days

i love my uni

[copper oasis]

I do think it's a bit weird that we don't have a middle eastern driver considering how insanely popular motorsport is there

[sharp veldt]

sweetcorn world champ

[sharp veldt]

ngl true

[ripe goblet]

what if instead of riccairdo we called him

[sharp veldt]

but there's a lot of instability in the middle east

ngl

[copper oasis]

Retirediardo

[sharp veldt]

so that kind of contributes to it

[ripe goblet]

ripcairdo

[sharp veldt]

spelled it wrong but yes

ricciardo -> ripciardo

or just rippiardo

[livid cobalt]

you can send a virtual letter to ricciardo btw

[copper oasis]

In some parts. I'm not saying we should have the Afghanistan GP or anything but UAE has been stable for a long time

[ripe goblet]

yeah for like 1 million aud

[sharp veldt]

dubai gp would be cool

[livid cobalt]

no its free

i think its like

[ripe goblet]

hold on a minute

[livid cobalt]

vcarbenchante

[sharp veldt]

isn't there a middle eastern f4

[ripe goblet]

I got barred from emailing alpha tauri

[copper oasis]

Don't even whisper it. They'll hear you and add another street track

[candid shoal]

which makes me feel so sad that this is how his career is going for circumstances outside of his control

sorry late reply

[sharp veldt]

can korea come back but not as a street track

i just want the kpop intro back

[livid cobalt]

???? how

[blissful lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/indecisive-i-dont-know-not-sure-larry-david-gif-5682454
When you're a Max fan but Norris penalty is indeed a bit unfair but then it means Max won't be on podium

[copper oasis]

🤔

[livid cobalt]

how do you get banned from emailing alphatauri

[sharp veldt]

honestly fair enough

[ripe goblet]

i asked them if yuki needed a booster seat

[livid cobalt]

zhou guanyu my beloved dont leave me 😔

[sharp veldt]

they sent questionable mail

[sharp veldt]

STOP

HAHAHA

[copper oasis]

They didn't wanna hear about his Yuki x Gasly OC

[livid cobalt]

[sharp veldt]

there's pics of yuki's engineers and staff helping him get into his seat bc he's so short

[ripe goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/yuki-tsunoda-pierre-gasly-yukierre-lap-alphatauri-gif-26041899

[livid cobalt]

yuki is a silly one

[sharp veldt]

i think yuki once commented on pierre's post smth that was supposed to be "did you like the view of my back?"

but he posted something like did i like the view my back

[copper oasis]

Be a shame when Yuki is out of the seat in 26

[livid cobalt]

talking about pierre

[sharp veldt]

ngl honda is willing to release him

[livid cobalt]

he likes every instagram post about f1 possible

[sharp veldt]

i could see yuki going to aston to replace fernando

[ripe goblet]

hypocritical no?

[sharp veldt]

oh yea

[sharp veldt]

no - honda said they would be willing to release yuki to allow him to explore options if yuki thought it would be better

[copper oasis]

Guess that's up to Alonso

[ripe goblet]

i thought honda were forcing redbull under a gun to keep yuki

[sharp veldt]

honda's been pretty vocal about they want yuki to get a chance in rbr

[copper oasis]

Replacing Alonso with Yuki would be insane

[sharp veldt]

i mean if fernando retires...

[ripe goblet]

i would kill myself

[copper oasis]

Redbull hears ya. Redbull don't care

[livid cobalt]

aston and honda are gonna partner in 26 but alonso has a contract that year

[sharp veldt]

lawrence stroll is not replacing lance

[copper oasis]

Valid

Ofc not. Lance is the only reason the team exists

[livid cobalt]

no duh

[sharp veldt]

not really. honda said if yuki wanted to leave red bull, they would support him

[livid cobalt]

nepo boy

[ripe goblet]

maybe he does a devon butler and retires by himself

[sharp veldt]

lance is not retiring unless the mafia takes him out

[copper oasis]

I wanna hate but I'd do the same shit if my dad was a billionaire... And loved me

[ripe goblet]

why you guys acting like lance just appeared one day in f1

with no prior expierience

[livid cobalt]

tbf everyone would be like lance if they had the chance to have a billionaire dad that loves them

[rugged grove]

yeah

toy cars but irl

[ripe goblet]

yeah but i'd do it in nascar

[livid cobalt]

he did win most of his karting days or f3 days i dont remember

[ripe goblet]

he won F3 Title

[copper oasis]

He didn't. His dad bought his F3 team then his F2 seat. And with some team orders and illegal parts from Williams.. Poof.
His dad buys his seat in F1.

[ripe goblet]

duh

[old rivet]

Lance doesn’t belong in the grid

[sharp veldt]

i don't think lance was bad prior to f1 but he's not the most standout in f1

[ripe goblet]

wasn't schumacher a pay driver

[copper oasis]

And like I said, I can't hate if I had that kind of money I'd put myself in all kinds of places I don't belong

[livid cobalt]

where did lance's skill go after f3 😭

[livid cobalt]

he was

[sharp veldt]

mick? i think of him more like a last name merchant

[old rivet]

Back to F3?

[ripe goblet]

bro'd go to the diddy party

[copper oasis]

Do you not know about his F3 stint..?

[livid cobalt]

i think he paid to get back into f1 or was just to get into f3

[livid cobalt]

michael

[sharp veldt]

oh

[livid cobalt]

no i just saw pictures of him p1 and george looking at him fuming in p3

[ripe goblet]

Jlo?

Absoluetely fucking not

[remote knoll]

Ah hell nah

[copper oasis]

Some uhm. Questionable components on his car. And only his car.

[remote knoll]

This is an F1 channel m8 😭

[livid cobalt]

not surprised

lets not bring up the ziddy party while we're talking about lance

[copper oasis]

Hey man it was in context

[sharp veldt]

@copper oasis you have the choice to take 2 of these drivers into andretti. the remaining will go to indycar. who are you picking?

lance stroll
zhou guanyu
logan sargeant
nicholas latifi
nikita mazepin
mick schumacher
kevin magnussen
daniil kyvat

[remote knoll]

Lance and Logan

[ripe goblet]

Sargeant and Kmag

[rugged grove]

goatifi and sargent

[remote knoll]

WAIT I DIDNT SEE KMAG

Caps

[flint perch]

Lance stroll supremacy

[rugged grove]

easy constructers

[sharp veldt]

bro if kmag stayed in f1 i would actually be so happy

[livid cobalt]

latifi is doing business stuff now

[sharp veldt]

we need chaos

[ripe goblet]

same

he brings balance

[sharp veldt]

yeah, he said he was getting a business degree

[remote knoll]

kmag and kvyat 😎

[rugged grove]

in all seriousness id take mag and Zhou

[ripe goblet]

He studies UOL

[copper oasis]

The rest will go to indycar 😭 like it's where drivers go when they die or smth.

I'd pick kmag and Kvyat easily

[livid cobalt]

we were all hoping for kmag to wipe everyone but uuuuuulkenbergh in singapore

[sharp veldt]

ok

[sharp veldt]

i was gonna put nascar tbh

[copper oasis]

Easy pick right? Leagues above

[sharp veldt]

nascar or like chinese f4 😭

[ripe goblet]

Ayrton senna to Indycar?

[remote knoll]

the truth is they aint surviving in indycar

[sharp veldt]

ayrton senna to chinese f4

[rugged grove]

https://tenor.com/view/checo-perez-checoperez-yes-ahuevo-gif-20933766

[livid cobalt]

astro to zimbabwean f6

[ripe goblet]

ayrton senna performed the same as hamilton

this race

[sharp veldt]

i'd win easily

everyone else would dnf

[copper oasis]

God no. Even very good F1 drivers get hammered in indycar