monaco-gp

[snow swan]

then gotta agree with redbullers

[forest pendant]

Yes, he lost his rights after losing the apex, as simple as that

[fierce bolt]

unreal cope, that situation is very clear, the penalty was deserved and would be given to any driver in that circumstance

[eager sluice]

Redbullshitters

[verbal gazelle]

Funny how all they would have to do is give the place back and overtake on main straight 😂

[raw plaza]

Cry

[summer briar]

Yes the penalty was deserved, where's Max's penalty? Just weird overall

[fierce bolt]

literally penalty for what man

[worn mica]

Yup, common McLaren L

[forest pendant]

for what?

[eager sluice]

I am

[raw plaza]

alr is as lando fans need to go sleep with stewards now no?

[snow swan]

For what!!!???

[fierce bolt]

he went off track, but he had several warnings to go before he got a penalty for that

[worn mica]

Penalty for beating mclaren lol

[snow swan]

I see what ya did here

[civic oracle]

For what? For beating us because we can't communicate properly to our drivers and blatantly lie to them?

[brave junco]

Lawson showing Tsunoda how it's done. While not being rude at all.

[verbal gazelle]

It’s literally this 💯 lando had the pace to overtake again.

[fierce bolt]

lawson made in incredible debut for sure

[snow swan]

i feel like yuki is overrated, he needs to be humbled sorta

[shrewd knoll]

lawson showed alonso levels😭😭

[quaint kite]

Yuki's strategy was kind of shit this race

[civic oracle]

My issue is fully with the pit wall, has been since the Hungarian race. It's pathetic how bad our communication is and it isn't Lando or Piastri fault. It's the team. Lying about being at the apex

[brave junco]

He's worse than Albon.

[raw plaza]

yea

[snow swan]

Nah Yuki has some mega days. Its just that if Lawson now starts beating him it will just show how much Danny Ric underperformed

[mortal marsh]

It’ll wear off lol. First couple races are always good because you have confidence you will deliver, after next few races he will probably tie with yuki

[snow swan]

and how good liam is

[upper shuttle]

Yall gotta understand landos steering was open like he wanted to go off track, second thing is that max had that corner all to himself, third of all there was no space, 4th of all lando still chose to overtake ending in him getting off track bc there was no space

[quaint kite]

The main issue is Lando being dumb and choosing to overtake off track

[raw plaza]

Yea if lando just gave it back none of us would be having this convo

[snow swan]

i mean its not like lando will lose championship by i dunno 3 points?
so it doesnt matter

[civic oracle]

Not even that, his team said he had the apex, it's the team fault. Lando thought he did.

[verbal gazelle]

If it was the other way around I would have been mad as well but it wouldn’t change the circumstances. Lando had the pace to overtake again and chose to keep his position after overtaking by off the track which is a blatant no in the rules.

[snow swan]

max prob will be a 4time world champion in qatar

[fierce bolt]

team definitely should have corrected lando

[raw plaza]

ig to them it looked like it did

[summer briar]

For forcing Norris off the track? The document literally says that's what happened

[candid salmon]

WDC is over and I couldn't be happier about it

[brave junco]

You can't really say this tbh. Idk which tracks prefers whom but look at colapinto, he's doing amazing. And tbh Yuki hasn't done anywhere enough to be considered out and out the no. 1 driver for Vcarb.

[quaint kite]

This weekend has huge implications for the championship. Lando will need to make up over ten points per weekend to win at this point. That's not happening

[violet shoal]

1. Ofc his steering is open, what was he gonna do, turn into his sidepod?
2. These rules are fkin stupid, you can brake 50m late and as long as you have the apex it doesn't matter if you make the corner or not
   3 + 4. Ofc it's max he's racing he's just dirty like that

[snow swan]

bro forgot lando has psycho fangirls

[fierce bolt]

please read the document again

[forest pendant]

Norris had 4 laps to make the overtake again, like pitwall fault

[wooden kettle]

average vcarb moment

[upper shuttle]

Back out 💀

[mental hound]

Yeah it's problematic, they need to communicate clearly and state the facts, maybe could've given the position back in time and tried again

[quaint kite]

We're acting like Max is always dirty but his defensive work up to that point was absolutely textbook

[candid salmon]

it's shit every weekend

[snow swan]

just an pitwall inchident nothing serious

[rocky obsidian]

I think he's quite forgotten now, I don't see much gossips or talks about him

[summer briar]

"Car 4 had little alternative than to leave the track"

[civic oracle]

facepalm

[raw plaza]

everytime max just gets the better u call him dirty some races maybe but this race he defended beautifully

[worn mica]

Maybe don’t go for an overtake you can’t make stick? LOL

[brave junco]

Regardless of the strategy he drove poorly. Locked up and spun plus overall didn't look very confident

[civic oracle]

I am actually dumb founded by our fans, absolutely dumbfounded.

[snow swan]

if anything its some sh like he should go rbr (i dont think so) or that honda puts pressure on redbull to put him in a car
like sure they can do some private testing with yuki in rb20 but it doesnt matter because its lapping alone, not in a race

[fierce bolt]

doesnt mean that car 4 has the right to accelerate and get in front of car 1

[fathom sequoia]

Can we all admit that was top 5 race of the season

[wooden kettle]

ahh a fellow vcarber i see

[forest pendant]

Imagine what people would say about Micheal today with his driving style

[quaint kite]

Y'all are stuck on Lando being pushed off when he actively made the decision to pass Max after going off. Absolutely mind boggling that y'all think that isn't a penalty

[mental hound]

He did defend beautifully and used the regulations to his advantage but nobody can tell me he wanted to take that corner properly

[rocky obsidian]

I personally see this situation as this:
Max sure did force Lando off the track... Lando's issue is that he's overtaken a car outside of the track (no matter the reason, he did), when Max was inside of the track (with only a toe, but still)

[snow swan]

we need more drivers with micheal's style

[raw plaza]

Could have always backed off and tried again he had the pace

[fathom sequoia]

Zhou was the whole season lmao

[neat fern]

You guys think ver will Win wdc or not

[regal needle]

Ferrari Photo is going on right now

[fierce bolt]

obviously yes

[civic oracle]

He will while our communication is as bad as this.

[violet shoal]

if you call that defending beautiful then I don't even wanna see what your gf looks like

[brave junco]

Yes. Unfortunately

[candid salmon]

obviously

[hushed wadi]

nice job lads

[snow swan]

nah LECLERC WILL WIN TRUST

[neat fern]

Nr:11?!!!!

[upper shuttle]

I love Alonso ❤️ 💚

[fathom sequoia]

depends on the next two race tbh

[fierce bolt]

the cope is absolutely unreal, his defending for three laps in a row was absolute perfection

[wooden kettle]

lol. me when i bum rush the corcuir

[summer briar]

Why wasn't max considered for a penalty for pushing Norris off in the first place?

[shrewd knoll]

max will win wdc

[raw plaza]

Ur not in a cockpit and when there’s a car next to u and he braked late to be in front of lando in that apex he had to go wide

[neat fern]

You think norris can?

[forest pendant]

Max was AHEAD

[verbal gazelle]

Why didn’t Norris back off when he didn’t have the right to space?

[fierce bolt]

because he didnt technically push him off, he was ahead at the apex. at that point, norris needs to backoff and get behind him

[worn mica]

Well it’s a good thing we have a penalty if you exceed track limits too much

[upper shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/fernando-alonso-fernando-alonso-smile-fernando-alonso-meme-f1-formula-1-gif-3717126936270113935

[quaint kite]

Because the rules are stupid. Because Max was ahead at the apex, he has the right to pick his line

[raw plaza]

Well u clearly are blind with all the borris poster on ur walls

[fierce pelican]

Sure, in this case give them both 5s penalties, ‘cause Max wasn’t intending to make that corner, he was just doing everything not to let Lando past :)

[crystal terrace]

According to the rules, he had the right to the corner because he was ahead at the apex. Him going off track resulted in only a track limits warning

[shrewd knoll]

hopium is crazy

[forest pendant]

No, track limits

[summer briar]

Yes

[violet shoal]

yeah abusing the rules to get another driver a penalty is perfection okay

[snow swan]

duuh? what do you expect from a tifoso?

[verbal gazelle]

This is what happens when you watch f1 through DTS

[shrewd knoll]

the fia rules are flawed asf

[torpid forum]

Ferrari fans live on that

[neat fern]

You think norris can win?

[regal needle]

Ferrari still having a Party right now in the Paddock

[upper shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/fernando-alonso-mewing-gif-3701152284312377299

[raw plaza]

guys stop overshadowing the Ferrari 1-2

[fierce bolt]

i was talking about the laps prior to that, learn to read. but even then, that move was the best option he had and he performed it perfectly, so sure man

[worn mica]

Max didn’t force Lando to overtake him off track LOL

[eager sluice]

But we wanted a McLaren 3-4

[forest pendant]

Thats called being a Champion, Smart thinking

[quaint kite]

Well tell Lando not to gas it and overtake him outside the circuit

[summer briar]

Not anymore with how the FIA's crap has affected this race

[crystal terrace]

Perhaps then the rules should be revisited, cuz the best racers are the ones that know how to push the limits and work around the uncertainty to gain every single advantage possible

Hate the game, not the player

[upper shuttle]

2 words. Back out

[hushed wadi]

ggs to ferrari for taking maximum advantage of red bull/mclaren meltdown

[fierce pelican]

I’m sorry?

[mortal lake]

Peeps totally forgot about it over FIA decision with which max has nothing to do with

He just complained cause he felt like

[shrewd knoll]

imagine lando ends up p3 in the year he was the realistic title contender 😭

[violet shoal]

just because he is max verstappen? absolutely stupid logic

[upper shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/sebastian-vettel-kiss-gif-27405686

[forest pendant]

🤦‍♂️

[neat fern]

Yh but he still can tho

[hushed wadi]

not track limits, lando has 3 strikes which is not enough for a 5s penalty

[mortal lake]

They were seconds ahead anyways ☠️

[fierce bolt]

???? no, nobody said that. back out because otherwise, you will OBVIOUSLY get a penalty

[distant stag]

Reading the fias notes makes it worse

[fathom sequoia]

depends on the setup tbh, while red bull is has advantage in mexico and brazil historically, we really cannot remove lando from the conversation considering how he performed this race

[quaint kite]

By the rules Lando was in the wrong. Don't blame max, blame the rulebook.

[raw plaza]

The chances of that is low and Charles getting p2 has increased

[regal needle]

David Crofty: Through goes the Ferrari!

[summer briar]

McLaren no longer have the fastest car

[forest pendant]

I meant for max, he said that max shouldve been given the pen as well for that

[rocky obsidian]

Max did not gain anything from forcing another driver off the track, Norris did... if Norris would've backed out, I think it would be a charge not in favor of Max, that would be a good reason to start an investigation for forcing another driver off the track at least

[fierce bolt]

which realistically is the only situation in which lando could ever win anything 👍

[neat fern]

Ferrari was faster on THIS track but Ferrari is always Ferrari they’re not consistent

[brave junco]

Nah they still have the fastest car. This track isn't suited for them

[raw plaza]

The have the fastest but it’s not dominant not faster by a whole margin like 2023 red bull

[upper shuttle]

He didn't force him off, there was simply not a way to overtake but lando went for it anyways when his steering was open

[mental hound]

99% yes, the other 1% is Max having crashes or McLaren upgrades work out really well next week and Ferrari are ahead of Max but let's be real, that's not happening

[summer briar]

realistically no driver can win anything without a good car 👍🏼

[crystal terrace]

To be fair, their advantage over the McLarens and Max was definitely caused by the Ver vs Nor kerfuffle. Obviously only in part, cuz their cars were literally flying, but that gap they built up in the last laps was definitely caused by the fight going on for 3rd

[snow swan]

did they have the fastest car in miami? genuinely asking

[shrewd knoll]

no idts mclaren are still fast this track just wasn’t it for them

[violet shoal]

obviously because all verstappen can do is abuse the rules to get norris a penalty

[fierce bolt]

max won 2021 with a worse car 👍

[hushed wadi]

the solution is obvious: gravel traps
eliminates all this "i was ahead at the apex" talk
high risk high reward, complete the move or get beached

[brave junco]

You are acting like Max won the WDC in 23 in an Aston

[mental hound]

We will see next week if they are still fastest, considering the upgrades...

[summer briar]

Which is what red bull fans refuse to understand

[forest pendant]

Thats true

[snow swan]

werent merc with rb on pretty similar level?

[rocky obsidian]

well in fact, Norris had nowhere to go (shitty corner tbh), would have still been chargable for this like what Russell had before I think. Though not sure, I ain't no a pro...

[fierce bolt]

no, but a safety car helped lando out like crazy

[mortal lake]

There is a difference in skirting the law and breaking the law

[crystal terrace]

Corner definitely needs a gravel trap

[snow swan]

yea ik that, thanks 👍

[obtuse elm]

George Russell: slows down the car, stays inside the white lines: 5 second penalty.

Max Verstappen: runs deep into t12, runs off the road: no penalty?!?

cc. matt212

i think he summarized it perfectly

[fierce bolt]

man you have no idea wtf youre talking about, youre just mad. reread what weve said, watch some analysis, and chill

[crystal terrace]

Russell was overtaking, Verstappen was defending

[upper shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/twingo-renault-twingo-gif-20014981

[quaint kite]

Lap 1 is treated differently... For some reason. Which is silly

[raw plaza]

No one said lando has to win every race but having the no of wins they do is very confusing coz on paper they’re pace has been better it’s just been driver error or team strategy that lost them so many races

[fierce bolt]

with the fastest car max won absolutely everything, lando in the fastest car has consistently fumbled and not won nearly as much as he should

[quasi rock]

They both did the wrong thing

[summer briar]

Was wondering how many stewards Horner had to fuck for this to happen

[fierce pelican]

Max, as always, went for a reckless dive bomb with no intention of making the corner, pushed Lando off the track leaving him no choice but to overtake (If Lando didn’t, Max should have gotten a 5s pen 100%, but knowing FIA it wouldn’t happen).

[mental hound]

Verstappen was actually attacking, considering he was behind Lando already

[novel sorrel]

And strangely only one got a penalty.

[rocky obsidian]

the first lap case? Max's had the trajectory that forced him to get on right side, Norris was unlucky to get side by side at this moment. You know, nobody even warned anyone for punching Ocon in the gut

[fierce bolt]

similar, but merc was absolutely better. max won through driving talent and aggresion

[crystal terrace]

Well he wasn't tho

[distant stag]

Max should not have been given the apex, because he was never going to make that corner

[raw plaza]

Max was ahead in the apex he can define the line and he late breaked so he could never make a good exit

[shrewd knoll]

last dnf max had was in australia and before that it was in 2022 australia but the points gap between max and lando is increasing esp this race which was a sprint weekend and ferarri are well ferrari they will not be consistent ferrari took advantage of the redbull mclaren fight to get ahead

[forest pendant]

Max was ahead, full stop. Apex rules.

[upper shuttle]

Max was ahead

[quaint kite]

The stewards treat first corner incidents differently. 🤷 Why? I don't know

[fierce bolt]

that is so wildly inaccurate its painful

[fierce pelican]

Please, enlighten me :)

[obtuse elm]

@quaint kite @rocky obsidian i meant the incident near the end of the race

[summer briar]

Not necessarily with the margins the McLaren is faster with and the tracks it's suited to. We saw Norris do mid in some tracks and then win tracks like Zandvoort and Singapore with 20 second gaps

[wet sequoia]

First corner chaos, all the cars are bunched together and unless you intentionally send it into another car you really won’t be penalised. Have to remember their field of vision in the cars is quite small

[crystal terrace]

Cuz there's usually too many, especially with the more chaotic starts

Stewards would take all race to give everyone time penalties, better to rule out the majority of lap 1 stuff as racing incidents

[quasi rock]

If Lando didn’t overtake off the track he probably would’ve come 3rd

[rocky obsidian]

ah, I dont even remember it anymore lol

[raw plaza]

oh come on I can name many tracks where McLaren fucked up if ur too delusional I can’t help it even George Russell who is a race driver says McLaren should have had more wins

[fierce bolt]

literally have several times, i am not typing all of it out again. read the offical fia statement, read the rulebook, read the messages from others in this chat, watch an analysis video on it, and put down your bias against max for one second

[agile flower]

What's the championship standings?

[brave junco]

In short it's Checover

[agile flower]

Oof

[novel sorrel]

Max divebombs, then per the stewards Norris no longer has the "Right to the corner". Max won't make that turn given a month of Sundays, but it doesn't matter, because Norris is pushed wider anyways. Max gets no penalty because Lap 1.

[quaint kite]

Checo is really not doing the job

[summer briar]

Never said they didn't fuck up a few times, just that you couldn't have expected them to have the same domination as red bull did at the start of the season

[brave junco]

He's an inspiration for millions. wdym.

[agile flower]

Thanks!

[mild prawn]

how are u guys still arguing this Lando accelerated and overtook max off the track he always had to give it back or else hes getting a penalty

[raw plaza]

but there were some tracks they should have won

[quaint kite]

McLaren has blown multiple race wins through both the fault of the drivers and the team itself

[mortal lake]

Which website?

[forest pendant]

I can see charles p2

[summer briar]

Yes

[violet shoal]

did u miss the bit where max went straight on

[novel sorrel]

Because it was the same thing Max did in L1T1 and yet, somehow...

[crystal terrace]

Oh I just got this off of the r/Formula1 subreddit, idk the exact source

[mortal lake]

Aha , thanks

[raw plaza]

even Liam passed both stake drivers in one race 💀 stake are cooked

[fierce bolt]

literally wtf are you talking about, max made a fair legal move and norris refused to back off for who knows why

[novel sorrel]

Max wasn't gonna make Turn 12 in a year of Sundays. You could've given him Flashback Mode and he still wouldn't have made it.

[fierce pelican]

Oh god, the rule book, yes! They twist the rules however they like it. I have nothing against Max at all, I have everything against Red Bull who clearly seem to be favoured and do not argue on this with me. I don’t think being ahead on the apex gives you right to do anything you’d like does it?

[brave junco]

The argument is not about Lando's incident but how FIA does not seem to have consistency and clarity over any decisions.

[worn mica]

no one gets penalties l1t1 LOL

[quaint kite]

Well tell Lando not to overtake him off the circuit then

[fierce bolt]

doesnt matter, it was legal

[forest pendant]

And yet Norris Made an illegal move

[crystal terrace]

Audi takeover cannot get here sooner enough, get that kick stake weak ahh shite out of here

[mortal lake]

Brooo l1t1 , all cars are stacked up
Someone just mentioned up there in lap 1 stewards treat it as racing incident unless you intentionally hit someone because of the given nature that all 20 cars together anything can go wrong.

[summer briar]

feel bad for Zhou

[velvet lake]

I

[snow swan]

and luck with sc in abu dhabi 2021🤷‍♂️ |
also another question - what about canada - did mclaren have the fastest car then?

[crystal terrace]

Both him and Bottas, what a shitshow

[brave junco]

I am not ready to watch HAAS finish dead last every race again. Let me have my fun.

[fierce bolt]

it doesnt give you the right to do anything, but it gave max the right to do everything he did. lando had no right at all to pass him off track

[novel sorrel]

Y'know what, I'ma head out and come back when all the people with a particular driver number Role Icon peace out. 👋

[worn mica]

yup unless you go bowling for cars t1 you aint gonna get a penalty lol

[raw plaza]

He late breaked he never was gonna have a good exit and he was ahead so he defined the line and lando just decided to overtake and his team said he was ahead which was the teams fault or else borris probably would have given it back

[summer briar]

The car makes the drivers look shit because the car is shit

[rocky obsidian]

I am here. And I think that by the rules Lando is more to blame.

[crystal terrace]

Nah Haas is cooking good

[forest pendant]

You better go and watch some races before 2024

[fierce bolt]

i honestly dont remember canada much, but max won that one

[violet shoal]

he shouldn't have had to back off but of course max verstappen makes his signature "defense"

[quaint kite]

McLaren probably could have won in Canada if they had spent less time squabbling with the Mercs

[snow swan]

yea from what I remember Lando had a comfortable lead before sc, and also mclaren fumbled strategy if i remember it correctly

[glad wigeon]

Hi

[mild prawn]

Max was ahead in both instances he didn’t overtake lando off the track in T1 but lando did so he got a pen it’s quite simple

[fierce bolt]

literally wtf do you expect max to do, let lando pass and not even attempt to take the spot back??

[crystal terrace]

They do deserve better, cars are obviously the worst offender but slow pit stops and strategy screwups have been abhorrent for them

[forest pendant]

Mclaren didnt pit him instantly

[quaint kite]

When have we ever seen 2 cars go side by side into T12 and have both stay on track? Go on. Name one.

[raw plaza]

if u are too blind that he defended good ur delusional and anyway that incident was not defending max was trying to get his position back and norris decided to overtake outside track

[snow swan]

mclaren is sorta like ferrari in 2022 at this point

[fierce bolt]

mclaren is very good at fumbling strategies

[summer briar]

yes

[mortal lake]

I agree

[snow swan]

SI

[violet shoal]

not take the corner as if it's a straight lmao

[forest pendant]

Circus must go on

[crystal terrace]

Norris may have fumbled the win, but it was McLaren pit wall that fumbled the podium

[worn mica]

he shouldnt have to back off because he couldnt make an overtake stick? what? LOL

[quaint kite]

McLaren should've had it in Silverstone. They should have had it in Monza. They should have had it in Catalunya. They lost all 3 of those races with a car that was clearly faster

[snow swan]

and sergeant,

[rocky obsidian]

did Piastri run out of soft compounds as for today?
otherwise I'm not sure why McLaren did not make a call for him to do a fast lap

[forest pendant]

They also lost 7 points in hungrary

[raw plaza]

Yea

[quaint kite]

Anyone?

[fierce pelican]

But Max had the right to push him off the track while going off it himself too? Oh right he was ahead at the apex

[mortal lake]

That was still a good race
But canada was losing for no good reason

[worn mica]

he was ahead, going off track is just a track limits warning

[fierce bolt]

what race did you watch man, he divebombed (legal) went out of track limits (got a warning) and otherwise did nothing strange. lando had nowhere to go but off track (legal) but then decided to accelerate and overtake max off track (not legal)

[wide yoke]

Guys just came back from cota and now i have a fever

[crystal terrace]

Yes he was

Rules say he is in the right, so blame the rules not Max nor the Stewards

[fierce pelican]

No he wouldn’t because he had no other choice but to overtake

[snow swan]

nocap fr?

[violet shoal]

he couldn't make an overtake stick because verstappen didn't make the corner plz watch the races

[fierce bolt]

my brother in christ he got a warning for track limits there, but he didnt have any other warnings or enough to get a penalty anyway

[wide yoke]

Yeah idk what happend😭

[raw plaza]

he had no other choice? He could have tried again in the straights later stop convincing urself

[forest pendant]

Wdym no other choice

[civic oracle]

jesus christ the track limits is crazy for this race

[worn mica]

he couldnt make the overtake stick because he wasnt ahead at the apex, watch the race please

[quaint kite]

Norris didn't have to illegally pass him off circuit. That's the problem. Lando should have lifted and stayed behind

[north flicker]

React if Lando NorMID 😂😂😂😂

[civic oracle]

. . .

[mortal lake]

Wait what? Bro he could have entered side to side with max and overtake ? It's not like not overtaking at that time only was going to disqualify him or something?

[fierce pelican]

Oh so we’re not minding other cars now?

[vestal lintel]

The whole penalty system needs a re do

[snow swan]

lets just blame it on everybody easy

[fierce bolt]

literally wtf is this dude on bruh

[crystal terrace]

You don't say

[worn mica]

max has the right to the line, per the rules. he was ahead at the apex

[violet shoal]

that's because max didn't brake so he could have the apex then consequently went far off the track 🤡

[fierce bolt]

and he got a warning for track limits, yes.

[snow swan]

so basically lando pulled the same thing as max in i guess mexico 2016
or really similar one

[vestal lintel]

And penalty's should effect the driver in a meaningful way

[fierce pelican]

Okay so he the next time he tries to overtake Max and Max obviously does something reckless again Lando should back off, because Max is Max and that’s it

[worn mica]

ok and? he got a warning for that lol

[pseudo quail]

Verstappen knew the rules he played it well

[raw plaza]

coz he braked late idk how u keep on convincing urself

[forest pendant]

Well, angry and Salty mc fans. Stay mad.

[crystal terrace]

Excellent analysis. You know why that works? Cuz the rules give him the right to the corner, therefore he's the one that gets the dub

[fierce bolt]

and you seriously said you dont have anything against max lmao

[fierce pelican]

I don’t wanna argue with you, you like Tame Imapala, I assume?

[snow swan]

lando should have pulled leclerc austria 2022 🔥

[raw plaza]

Yes that’s called racing it’s not like everytime a driver has passed another driver when they have a faster car

[quaint kite]

Brother he needs to follow the rules. IE, not make an illegal overtake. It's quite clear to me. Apparently not to you

[fierce bolt]

yea, his music cool

[fierce pelican]

I don’t like his driving style, yes, but I love him and his personality

[violet shoal]

then change the rules because that's not fair in the slightest

[shrewd knoll]

leclerc solos lando

[mild prawn]

“far off track” why are we lying lmao he was on the kerb he just went over the white line

[worn mica]

Mclaren fans just malding because they are realizing lando doesnt know how to pass Max like Leclerc does

[storm wraith]

So how’s everyone doing? 😅

[crystal terrace]

[fierce bolt]

please tell us how they could revise the rules to make it more fair and balanced

[quaint kite]

Lando fans apparently didn't read the rulebook 🤷

[novel sorrel]

Enjoying liberal use of the Discord block function. hbu?

[brave junco]

Enjoying the downfall of Checo

[snow swan]

absolutely, imo hes really close to max, prob not better but really really REAALLLY CLOSE

[vestal lintel]

Max and lando fans hate each other again while max and lando are chilling together

[raw plaza]

u guys keep on forgetting its a race and max is a racing driver u just expect him to concede and not go for a gap which norris didn’t close off and then had a bad exit to the corner

[rocky obsidian]

🤣

[crystal terrace]

Everyone is so taken aback by the Lando V Max drama that the Ferrari domination is largely overshadowed

Tifosi can celebrate in peace at least

[worn mica]

typical "lah lah lah im gonna hide my head in the sand because they are speaking logic!"

[fierce pelican]

Did Max follow the rules in T1? Lap 1?

[raw plaza]

There was never a rise in red bull 💀💀

[novel sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/see-you-next-year-haha-no-laugh-gif-13159610

[mild prawn]

if Leclerc was more consistent he would be very close to max but on his day he’s right up there with him

[shrewd knoll]

i agree and thats because max and charles have been racing each other since go karting days so they know each other’s tricks

[pseudo quail]

Fr where’s the poster for Ferrari’s dominance like lando got

[fierce bolt]

lap 1 is lap 1, every single driver on the grid has done worse than what max did and not got a penalty

[crystal terrace]

Lap 1 gets mostly accounted for in the majority as racing incidents

[vestal lintel]

Not really drama just fans arguing witha few good points mixed in

[quaint kite]

Based on the way the rules are policed lap one? Yeah. What he did was legal

[violet shoal]

off the track is off the track it doesnt matter

[peak current]

What about the end of the race?

[north flicker]

Lmao look at y’all arguing over dumb shit, FERRARI WON MOTHERF4CKERS FORZA FERRARI 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

[snow swan]

you mean in standings or overall level?

[upper shuttle]

Yall are stoll arguing?

[raw plaza]

Leclerc 2025 wdc

[fierce bolt]

what about it

[storm wraith]

😂 yeah I’m just observing

[crystal terrace]

You've just described drama

[rocky obsidian]

Logan Sargeant is now in Indy...

[mild prawn]

overall level of the driver not standings

[novel sorrel]

Popcorn tastes good.

[brave junco]

The moment Charles overtook in turn 1. It was done and dusted. He wasn't even challenged once. He was more worried about the pit strategy than the pace.

[peak current]

He can push off Lando again?

[serene ridge]

Does anyone know why they got the pirelli wind tunnel tyres on the podium instead of them daft punk looking things

[fierce pelican]

I know, did Albon get a penalty for lap 1? Colliding with Ocon?

[snow swan]

FORZA FERRARI MADAFAKERS

[quaint kite]

Nope. Racing incident.

[vestal lintel]

Drama has to have substance this is arguing for arguing

[fierce bolt]

idk how many times ive explained this, but max got a warning for track limits. he did not have enough warnings to get a penalty. it is a very simple case.

[shrewd knoll]

oh yeah def in 2022 he wasn’t consistent enough and made mistakes but this year he has been quite consistent only bad strategy calls have fucked him over

[snow swan]

true, leclerc is getting there tho (this season hes been really consistent and in 2025 he probably will learn a lot from lewis)

[peak current]

That’s cheap

[fierce bolt]

its true and factual

[crystal terrace]

Uh I don't recall there being a penalty for that, but maybe I'm not remembering correctly

Anyway I did say "most", not "all" - there's bound to be exceptions

[gleaming badger]

-150$ for your kids’ college

[fierce pelican]

Hmm, I remember George getting punished for the exact same thing in COTA two years ago, no? Correct me if I’m mistaken

And by the way where can I find the picture where Max is ahead of Lando on the apex, just curious

[storm wraith]

Yeah that’s unfortunate… I’m enjoying it 😂

[pearl snow]

Put that on pre season

[raw plaza]

Trust me he’s gonna be wdc next year

[fierce bolt]

just watch replay and analysis video man

[vestal lintel]

Anyway 2025 gonna be a good season for WDC and WCC

[storm wraith]

🍿

[snow swan]

i hope so bro, i plan on getting a summer job so that I can go to abu dhabi next year
seeing charles win his 1st wdc would be a dream, but lewis would be great too

[raw plaza]

the document says so

[crystal terrace]

It's unfortunate for that huge dip in performance half way through, otherwise the Driver's Championship would already be a three way fight

It's still possible I mean, but we would be seeing it already today

[vestal lintel]

Ferrari doing well, McLaren too redbull is doing well and then merc is Ferrari but German

[snow swan]

I mean I want to do Iman Gadzhi sh but with some tweaks here and there but shhhh im assuming the worst case scenario

[raw plaza]

Yea

[novel sorrel]

Hell, this season is surprisingly close, and the cars just keep getting closer and closer

[peak current]

Drivers get just warnings for pushing people off, bruh

[vestal lintel]

Lando just needs to get starts under control tbh

[pseudo quail]

Ferrari is cooking next year

[novel sorrel]

P1-P15 in qualifying is consistently <1 second now. If you would've said that in 2018 nobody would've believed you.

[fierce pelican]

So George got penalised, Alex didn’t. Lap 1 both incidents

FIA do bend the rules however they like don’t they 🙃

[fierce bolt]

he did not in fact push lando off, max was ahead at apex and therefor legally had the right to go to the line

[snow swan]

if leclerc placed top 4 in every race from Canda to UK he would have around 283 points

[mild prawn]

looks ahead to me mate

[pseudo quail]

Lando’s got the Perez treatment rn

[crystal terrace]

Russell got a penalty for pushing someone off because he was overtaking Bottas(?) and was not ahead at the apex

From that standpoint the Stewards' decisions have been consistent

[little pollen]

Charles is my king fr 🤴

[raw plaza]

Well fia are the ruling body so only teams can complain

[raw plaza]

Sorry but rn Ferrari are being overlooked coz of max and lando but fr Ferrari 🔥🔥🔥

[vestal lintel]

McLaren in all the rights will probs have appealed the pen

[limber tide]

REAL

[fierce bolt]

they have zero rights to do that, they most likely realize that is a waste of time

[quaint kite]

I don't think they're exactly the same if you watch both replays. From George's onboard he basically torpedoes into the side of Sainz. I think Albon has Lewis up his inside and was pinched in between him and Ocon. That's my rationale at least

[fierce pelican]

Yes he does, so judging by this one can break very very late with no illusion to make the corner whatsoever, go deeply off the track, smash the other car into a wall or put them in a gravel and get away with a track limits warning because they were ahead on the apex? Just asking

[snow swan]

mclaren fans acting like these 3points will matter in wdc when we might see fight for 2nd place between charles and lando 😭 🙏

[fierce pelican]

If I remember correctly George had Lewis on the inside too, I might be wrong though

[strange night]

Damnnn

[fierce bolt]

the other car should back out brother

[quaint kite]

Lewis was on the outside, just watched the replay

[vestal lintel]

Ferrari will probs be Ferrari and do something bad for Leclerc 😔

[snow swan]

i mean they've been pulling a grande strategia for 4races now soooo

[fierce pelican]

Ultimate defensive meta, break insanely late if you’re being overtaken, be ahead on the apex, go off the track and the other car will just back out, if not they’ll get a penalty and you’ll get away with a track limits warning, lovely!

[brave junco]

Which team benefits from the Mexico GP layout most?

[fierce pelican]

Hm yes I think he was, was nobody down the inside though?

[fierce bolt]

if you break that ridiculously late, you will either end up in the gravel or barrier or whatever, OR you will have a terrible exit. the second car should still back off and will most likely take the position back easily

[vestal lintel]

To lucky for them knowing Ferrari they will release leclerc on wrong tyres spinning him after he lost grip into Carlos

[mild prawn]

“no illusion to make the corner” once again he was just over the white line and was on the kerb he didn’t recklessly send it and miss the corner by meters and again ur not allowed to overtake off the track how is this lando pen controversial lol

[quaint kite]

Nope. George just tried to open up the corner too early and ended up in the side of Sainz

[fierce pelican]

Too many ifs and ors

[snow swan]

just did some quick calculations, if it wasnt for canada - silverstone stint leclerc would be losing 40points to Max and would need to score 8 more points than max in all races + 9 in one
pain just pain

[fierce bolt]

not really, if what you said is true than that would be happening all over.

[upper shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/renault-twingo-gif-26906805

[fierce pelican]

Blimey

[crystal terrace]

Team fans rn:

[snow swan]

REAL

[vestal lintel]

Then merc just crying

[mild prawn]

LMAO

[manic sable]

hey all, did Norris get the penalty for actually exceeding track limits multiple times or was it fault of the incident? 🤔

[crystal terrace]

Latter

[fierce bolt]

it was for overtaking off track

[candid shoal]

who remembers when charles won today and lando didn’t podium i do that was great

[torpid forum]

Got penalty for overtaking

[fierce pelican]

Alright, let me ask you this, if Max pushes Lando off in this scenario and there’s, let’s say, gravel there and Lando gets trapped in it because Max pushed him off, but he was slightly ahead on the apex, do you think Max is getting a penalty?

[upper shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/twingo-car-cars-gif-12957604

[glacial bluff]

Fun fact: Max Verstappen is now far enough ahead of Lando, that he can finish 3rd in every Grand Prix and Sprint, while Lando wins it all, and still win the championship by 3 points

[vestal lintel]

How going off track pens should be
If both go off = 5 sec (like with lando today)
If one gose off other don't = 10 sec

[rocky obsidian]

there is no gravel in that place...

[manic sable]

damn, in that case it was really unfair, it should have been racing incident like Brasil 2021

[torpid forum]

It was fair

[upper shuttle]

Fun fact if lando backed off max would have gone off track and gotten a penalty and not get the podium

[fierce pelican]

I know there isn’t, I’m just saying as an example, if there was and Lando fell in it, is Max getting penalised?

[fierce bolt]

how many times do you have to read “max didnt push lando off” to understand? max was ahead at apex, therefore lando lost all rights to try and defend even more

[snow swan]

well its not like lando will win everything or that max will place top 3 every race
i get the point tho just had to pull a nerd moment 🤓

[glacial bluff]

Yea but still.

[candid shoal]

how r u guys saying it wasn’t a fair penalty when lando was irrefutably off track limits overtaking

[crystal terrace]

I'd say no, maybe I guess but still probably no

Stewards usually take decisions based on the event itself, not the consequences or whatever else happened after. Of course Norris wouldn't get a penalty cuz he didn't manage an overtake off of the track

[rocky obsidian]

Lando wouldn't be able to perform overtake outside of the track for sure, most likely giving Max more guilt in this case

[snow swan]

IF bro please read

[fierce bolt]

if max wasnt ahead at apex, he would get a penalty

[manic sable]

that would be if they were both parallel, not Max diving and then negating that space

[upper shuttle]

If lando backed out max would get a penalty for track limits

[torpid forum]

How was max diving if he was the one who was getting overtaken ?

[fierce pelican]

Whatever, just answer, the same exact scenario but Lando gets trapped in gravel or collides with a wall while going side by side with Max, does Verstappen get penalised. Don’t say what’s fair, just tell me if you think the stewards will award a penalty to Max.

[snow swan]

sad that they didnt take each other out tho... dang it man

[fierce bolt]

he got a warning, which is all he was going to get anyway. he didnt have enough warnings to get a penalty anyway

[remote knoll]

You're a meanie

[fierce bolt]

if they are going by the rules and max is ahead at apex, he should not get a penalty. it would be landos fault for not backing out

[crystal terrace]

#monaco-gp message

[remote knoll]

It was a defensive move

[snow swan]

https://tenor.com/view/toto-wolff-thumbs-up-formula1-toto-gif-25464496

[fierce pelican]

And I’m almost certain Max would get the blame, but maybe that’s just me

I don’t care about this matter too much really I don’t care about this season at all, waiting for 2025 anyway.

[upper shuttle]

Alonso wins the Mexican gp

[manic sable]

he did because that was the only defence left for that moment, same as Brazil 2021

[upper shuttle]

My ps4 won't turn on😭😭

[crystal terrace]

He did brake tremendously late, whether it was intentional or not is debatable, but it did make him go off track limits

But alas that's just a track limits warning since he had the right to the corner ("ahead at apex" rules)

[remote knoll]

Definitely intentional

[crystal terrace]

So yeah it was a dive on the inside to protect the position

[upper shuttle]

Anyone else noticed landos steering was open

[fierce pelican]

I’m sure they would forget all about the rules and deal with it solely based on the consequences

[remote knoll]

he knew he was going off

[mild prawn]

if i’m being completely honest both of them fucked up in the corner but because Lando did something that is a slam dunk penalty (overtake off track) he ended up getting the penalty in the incident

[fresh warren]

Lando should have braked early and took inside of max overshooting

That’s clearly max go to move when he is beat on pace

[crystal terrace]

Yeah it was just hard racing from the pair of them, Max just knew how to abuse the rules more than Lando and get away with it, that's what makes a good driver

[fierce pelican]

Also, if the rules are so simple and Max just needs to be ahead on the apex to perform the manoeuvre, then it was a decision FIA could have made in a lap, asking Lando to give the position back :)

[manic sable]

an actual deserving champion, I hope he keeps getting ahead of Norris

[analog leaf]

Y'all that gp was the first one my dad watched so now he thinks that penalties get handed out left right and centre

[civic oracle]

Rules for this is the fact the teams will resolve it themselves before the FIA. FIA only get involved if the teams dont solve it themselves, they lied to land ohense they didnt give it up

[mild prawn]

exactly he ended up ahead by any means which is a trait i love about max

[raw plaza]

maybe McLaren were contesting not to to the FIA u never know

[forest pendant]

Lets be honest. Nothing of that wouldve happened if Norris closed the door prorply at turn 1

[remote knoll]

Eh

[fierce pelican]

You surely can’t argue that Max did push Lando off in turn 1. I’m not saying he should have been punished for it though.

[remote knoll]

If Lando was that far to the inside he is heavily compromised on the exit

[fresh warren]

Norris left the door open in turn 1

[raw plaza]

its mclaren fault too not realising max was ahead if lando knew that info he probably would have given backthe position

[crystal terrace]

That's actually not on the FIA as far as I know? McLaren pitwall likely knew the penalty was a serious risk, they fumbled the bag by not telling Lando to give the place back right away. If they had done that soon enough, Lando would have surely been able to pass Max again in a cleaner way, since had better race pace and a tire delta on his favor

So at the end of the day: McLaren pit wall is the new F1 strategy clowns

[forest pendant]

Well that fair play from Max, dirty but not illegal

[civic oracle]

He was. He had a warning for it

[manic sable]

nothing outside of the rules should be called dirty either

[raw plaza]

oh comeone every viewer knew max would always go on the inside no matter what going wide was probably his fault

[fierce pelican]

Did Red Bull ask Max to give the position back to Lewis in Bahrain? 2021? Or was it the stewards?

[forest pendant]

Redbull

[civic oracle]

Red bull. As I mentioned teams sort it out themselves before stewards get involved. Mclaren lied to lando. That's the story.

[crystal terrace]

Well ehy don't go there with me, I started following F1 only in 2023 XD

[vernal holly]

https://fxtwitter.com/sextappen/status/1848117161220288548

[raw plaza]

different head leading fia that time too diff year stop comparing every single fia decision

[forest pendant]

Put lewis instead of lando in that McLaren and we will have last 5 fire races

[fierce pelican]

I’m tired, I don’t care about Lando or Max this much to stress over it. Give Lewis his 8th title back!

[crystal terrace]

Merc should paint their car orange for that extra speed 🙏

[fast fable]

Missed the race again... Oh, no...

[worn mica]

cant get something back that you never had

[hushed wadi]

2 races in a row the fastest lap point has gone down the bin

[raw plaza]

nah too many stars have to align to go norris;s way

[civic oracle]

Did everyone see how many people had lap times deleted for track limits

[fierce pelican]

I’m worried about Lewis, it’s not just the underperformance there’s something with him, I think it has something to do with Mercedes

[fast fable]

What's with '☠️'?

[raw plaza]

well we have to see if its him or just merc next year how he compares to lec

[royal harness]

Icl that race was boring

[mild prawn]

rules changed either this season or 2023 the FIA no longer gets involved

[crystal terrace]

I actually don't get why Alpine went with putting Ocon on softs for that fastest lap... they wouldn't have gotten the point anyway

[fresh warren]

Is leclerc a dark horse for wdc now?

[hushed wadi]

interesting stuff happened

idk do you just want spoilers

[fast fable]

Like?

[raw plaza]

chances def lowered this race

[royal harness]

Too far back id say

[worn mica]

sometimes you just wanna say you were the fastest

[fresh warren]

If max and lando collide it gets close in points if leclerc goes on a win streak

[crystal terrace]

Race was great. Avoid spoilers if you can and watch it for yourself

[remote knoll]

for the wcc

[civic oracle]

It was crazy

[fast fable]

Speak up, I'm chill if it's spoiled for me.

[crystal terrace]

Wcc counts fastest lap points even if you're outside the top 10?

[worn mica]

no

[royal harness]

Idk how max wasnt ordered to give position back on lap one but lando had to the 2nd time but got a penalty for not

[fierce pelican]

That’s a different story, Leclerc in his prime vs 40yo exhausted Lewis, in Charles’ team… Charles’ car. The thing is that everything that’s happening to Lewis right now is Merc’s fault. I’m aware that most of his titles exist because of Mercedes too, yes

[worn mica]

l1t1 is treated different, its not that hard of a concept to get

[royal harness]

Max clearly forced him off track both instances

[hushed wadi]

ok here goes
lap 1 hamilton beaches himself, norris bottles yet another pole and ferrari end up 1-2
during the final few laps verstappen and norris scrap like they did in austria (no crash this time), norris gets a 5s penalty and loses the podium to verstappen

[crystal terrace]

Phew that's a lot of times deleted

COTA doesn't forgive I guess

[fast fable]

I see.

[civic oracle]

Lando had 4 warnings as well no wonder they weren't kind xD

[fierce pelican]

Better than Austria ‘23

[crystal terrace]

Technically only 3, apparently one was counted twice because he went off at the last corner, which deletes the lap time for both the lap that the driver is ending and starting

[raw plaza]

so he would have gotten a penalty for thgat no?

[remote knoll]

No but they are preventing their rivals from getting extra points

[hushed wadi]

the fia decided to ignore the 4th one when giving norris the 5s penalty

[mild prawn]

i get why ur annoyed about the 2nd incident but at T1 max was ahead at the apex and kept a wheel on the white line it was perfectly legal lol

[raw plaza]

💀 so even if they didnt make track position as a penalty he would already get one anyway so the debate was nothing

[civic oracle]

Perez needs firing, lost to russell who started from pits 😭

[chrome cradle]

...

[crystal terrace]

Eeeeh I'm not too sure about that, sure if he had gone outside the track one extra time then a penalty was definitely on its way even without Max's help

[fierce pelican]

Hamilton DNF, controversial race and Hitchcock fucks up another movie ending. Great

[supple carbon]

lol

[quaint kite]

Tbf there was a safety car which bunched everyone up so it's not JUST a pace thing. Checo still had a terrible race though

[wet acorn]

That lil casual Russell move that made him ahead, Perez really lost it 💀

[crystal terrace]

Don't forget, Russell had a 5 secs penalty, even worse for Perez

[raw plaza]

drive to survive will have a so much fun with this season 💀

[civic oracle]

Only thing controversial was how people got onto the track while people were STILL RACING

[pseudo bay]

hosting a crying session for what happened to lewis hmu for details

[crystal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/upisnotjump-evil-laugh-evil-evil-smile-evil-grin-gif-15071456

[supple carbon]

let me know i want to join

[tough bough]

they mess up the audios tho, put some voice radio chats in different races to make the drama higher

[pseudo bay]

i already started can't stop

[civic oracle]

LOL

[raw plaza]

well it is dts cant expect less

[wet acorn]

Plz lemme no so I can laugh mid crying

[pseudo bay]

imposter

[raw plaza]

😭

[crystal terrace]

They probably got contacted by both LEGO and Disney

[wet acorn]

No my typo ruined it

[fast fable]

I'm more interested in midfield part, probably the side-effects of seeing Alex-Logan in that area for a whole year that I tanked the interest on Top 5.

[wet acorn]

Lewis kinda perez in denial no offense

[hushed wadi]

both lawson and colapinto outraced their teammates and scored points while the teammates didn't

[supple carbon]

damm thats brutal

[fast fable]

What happened to Yuki?

I'm aware of Albon-Ocon argie bargie.

[hushed wadi]

got a 5s penalty for "forcing albon off the track" then got mad when lawson ended up ahead of him even though lawson had fresh rubber lmao

[copper oasis]

Can't even enjoy the Ferrari 1/2 with all the drama. Poor Ferrari

[fast fable]

Bahrain '24 flashbacks.

[crystal terrace]

Mmh idk, the falloff in performance was the same for both Russell and Hamilton during qualifying, so evidently it was the car's changes that lead to all these issues for the Mercedes drivers

After all, Russell managed to do well in the race with the previous car specs (since the "upgraded" car was totalled), while Hamilton spun out in the same corner as Russell in quali with the new car specs

[crystal terrace]

Naah Tifosi doing alright, drama is all on Lando V Max so they get to celebrate a dominant race with full peace of mind

[hushed wadi]

and how did that work out

[fierce pelican]

What’s up everyone? Lando clearly deserved the pen, I don’t know why everyone thinks it’s controversial lol, read the rules <3

[copper oasis]

I got banned from another discord for saying the penalty was right. People are wicked upset about it

[distant stag]

There was people climbing the fences

[crystal terrace]

Either one would have spun out anyway with those car specs sooooo...

Mercedes Upgrades™️

[hushed wadi]

ferrari who brought no upgrades whatsoever slapped the whole grid

that's what i call a chad move from freddy vasseur and co

[crystal terrace]

Some folks get their kicks by refusing to acknowledge a disagreeing opinion. They probably weren't worth your time, but it definitely sucks :/

[copper oasis]

Haas had a banger of a weekend too. And ever since Toyota announced their new partnerships their socials have exploded.

It's a good time to be a Haas fan

[hushed wadi]

haas ran so well in the sprint

but why was kevin told to pit again today

[copper oasis]

Punctured tire

[crystal terrace]

Oh wow, sucks. Good that they got the car in quick at least

[copper oasis]

Tragic cuz I really thought we had quadruple points on the cards. Would have been the biggest weekend for Haas ever

[fierce pelican]

Lando fangirls crying?

[crystal terrace]

I'm definitely rooting for a Haas renaissance, it's like they've been clawing their way up the leaderboards by sheer will of force alone :D

[fast fable]

Whoever made the upgrades...

... Took inspiration from fidget spinner.

[crystal terrace]

Double points on both the sprint and the grand prix definitely nothing to sneeze at, looking forward to what else they can do

[fierce pelican]

Zhou and Valtteri 21st and 23rd 🥲

[warped lotus]

Let’s be honest it was good motor racing and it’s really hard to see who’s to blame for

Personally I agree with what experts say and they should just add gravel on that area

[raw plaza]

carlos saying "i hope i get another oppurtunity to win a race with ferrari b4 i leave"broke my heart

[crystal terrace]

"Tire spin because car fast, therefore if car spin, tire spin more so car fast more"

[warped lotus]

With the car right now it’s definitely possible, sucks to see the p2 as well cuz he showed multiple signs he’s better at this track than Charles

[copper oasis]

Sainz being binned off to the back of the grid is a tragedy. I'm not ready to hear "Perfect drive out there Carlos. That's p11"
It's going to be brutal

[fierce pelican]

I’m kidding.

[fleet aspen]

Which cars will preform well at Mexico? 🇲🇽👀

[raw plaza]

looks like another ferrari track to me

[fierce pelican]

Very true but you can’t reject the possibility of having Leclerc / Hamilton pairing can you?

[warped lotus]

Agreed. Even Haas looks VERY promising now

[fleet aspen]

Ferrari 🤝 Redbull

[stiff bough]

The real tragedy is the fact that ALBON STILL HAS THAT FUCKING SEAT WHILE COLAPINTO IS JOBLESS NEXT YEAR

[civic oracle]

real gap between ferrari and mclaren we should be talkin about

[raw plaza]

im going to sleep good bye

[fleet aspen]

I’m cool with another podium being Ferrari and Redbull

[remote knoll]

damn we turned our backs on Albon real quick

[copper oasis]

Depends if you're trying to sell ferrari's or win championships I guess. Leclerc's about to bury another wdc teammate

[supple carbon]

what is the h2h score ?

[warped lotus]

Do you think that they’ll axe Albon for 2025

[candid shoal]

yeah why are we hating on alex rn for one unfortunate drive

[stiff bough]

goldfish memory fr fr rn

[stiff bough]

no

[stiff bough]

because he did nothing after that SC

[crystal terrace]

Well I would still say there's possibilities for Williams to pick up their pace, now with Sargeant out and Colapinto in we're seeing the true pace of Albon when put against a competent teammate. Less crashes therefore more upgrades, and also more reliable data

I wouldn't be surprised if Sainz becomes the reason that Williams starts getting points consistently again. Perhaps Albon might even get dropped in favor of Colapinto, seeing the disparity between the two today

[stiff bough]

he got a free pitstop and a new wing and did absolutely nothing

i was expecting him to at least make up some ground

[copper oasis]

Albon is hard to rate because he hasn't had a real benchmark teammate. If we'd gotten a season of like Russell/Albon I feel like we'd have a better idea where he's at.

[fierce pelican]

Right, Sainz wins you championships and Hamilton only helps you financially. True!

[stiff bough]

beats me lmao

[civic oracle]

we're hating on alex because as soon as someone who can compete goes against him he cries and copes

[stiff bough]

they're probably one for one rn

[copper oasis]

Are you just the bait guy or what

[remote knoll]

No

[fierce pelican]

I’m sorry?

[stiff bough]

"colapinto just divebombed, what the hell is he doing" moment

[simple nest]

Wait where do we go to after US

[gentle verge]

Mexicoooo

[stiff bough]

mexico

[copper oasis]

Yo ho Mexico!

[hushed wadi]

helmut marko's south america

[remote knoll]

Yeah and after the race he said it wasn't that bad

[stiff bough]

im disregarding that comment post race

[simple nest]

Fuck

[stiff bough]

i wonder if people will call the performances Mexico City will put on pre race cringe

[remote knoll]

not fair

[copper oasis]

Mexico has given us some pretty slapping races. I think it'll be good.
I also DON'T think Perez is retiring afterwards

[remote knoll]

You what?

[nimble canopy]

Why did ocon go for fastest lap?

[copper oasis]

Oh you didn't see that? Rumor mill is still going crazy that Perez is going to announce his retirement at the Mexican GP.
I don't buy it, personally

[remote knoll]

It's just an opinion it's just an opiniom it's just an opinion

[stiff bough]

opiniom

[nimble canopy]

He’s finishing out the season

[crystal terrace]

Perez gonna have to pick himself up if he wants to have a good show in Mexico. I doubt Red Bull is gonna do much in his favor relative to Max because of the latter's championship battle

[remote knoll]

No I'm talking about the fact that you said Mexico has given us good races

[stiff bough]

perez was in usual form this weekend too

so bravo to him

[raven wagon]

Mexico has given us a lot of dull races

[stiff bough]

got stuck behind colapinto on hards from lap 27 to lap 35

[nimble canopy]

He made q3 atleast

[hushed wadi]

weekly dose of "how shit is sergio perez"

[stiff bough]

and somehow managed to finish behind fucking George.

[nimble canopy]

Wasn’t even close George pulled away by 3 seconds

[stiff bough]

How do you, in that Red Bull, finish behind a guy who started from the pitlane and served a 5 second penalty???

[supple carbon]

lol

[raven wagon]

And yet theres ppl saying "Oh Redbull sabotaging him, they not listening to him"

[stiff bough]

IT SURPRISES ME HOW BAD IT GETS

[copper oasis]

I really thought Tsunoda was going to pass Perez in the sprint. THE SCENES MAN

[nimble canopy]

I’m still questioning how he let Leclerc pass him at Vegas dude was behind 9 tenths into the straight and suspended Leclerc lunged

[stiff bough]

IDEK HOW LECLERC MADE THAT MOVE STICK HONESTLY

like bro shoulda locked up and went into the barrier

[raven wagon]

Not even Redbull themselves would nerf Checo until this bad

[nimble canopy]

He did it earlier in the race also I had Perez at 16/1 to be best without max I respected the car then

[copper oasis]

48 point gap to Aston Martin from Haas. Before you say it's impossible, just consider this fight is more on than the WDC.

[stiff bough]

Haas at least has two competent cars :P

[copper oasis]

And that Aston is looking miserable

[remote knoll]

Ollie gonna cook so hard next year and I'm ready

[stiff bough]

ive got my eyes on doohan

I so badly want him to do well

[remote knoll]

so do i

[copper oasis]

You guys have more faith in alpine then I do... Then again with the new merc pieces maybe they'll be alright

[remote knoll]

but the last time I badly wanted someone to be good they ended up getting smoked in qualifying their entire career

[stiff bough]

It's already rare that a father and their son makes it to the premier class racing series

Let alone a father son duo in two completely different types of racing

MotoGP and F1

[fierce pelican]

Not really, Lando can possibly gain 8-10 points every race, Haas usually struggle to get more than 6-8 points, so even that’s not enough to catch Aston assuming they fail to get any points whatsoever

[stiff bough]

fuckin genetics of god

birth me into that family please

Lando gaining that many points a race consistently hasn't even happened yet

[raven wagon]

You wanna remove this 30 sec slowmode gucks

[copper oasis]

Lando has only gained the necessary 9pts per race one time all season. When max didn't finish. Haas has had multiple weekends where they made 8 points. Pass back the hopium

[stiff bough]

Like I'm pretty sure on most the occasions he chipped away at it, it was like 3-4 points

[crisp mason]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSjJEKpYA/ no shot…

[stiff bough]

why no one say earlier to remove it

[stiff bough]

us vx to get the embed to work

[crisp mason]

it works for me

[stiff bough]

lame it dont for me

no remove .

vxtiktok

[crisp mason]

oh

[stiff bough]

WHAST THE FUCK

I HATE THIS

[crisp mason]

well anyway, it says “why leclerc will win the US GP

[stiff bough]

what if i do it then

[crisp mason]

and it was posted a week ago

[stiff bough]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/@zaniolo.sewell/video/7426444495186677024?_r=1&_t=8qiLKtEaBlP

[fierce pelican]

I’m with you on wanting Haas to catch Aston Martin but it’s nowhere as close as the WDC. Just because Max was quick at COTA doesn’t mean their struggle won’t continue in Mexico, Brazil, Vegas, Qatar or Abu Dhabi. And I don’t see Haas getting points in all remaining races while Aston get none

[crisp mason]

wadafaq

[stiff bough]

idek..

[fast fable]

Because of traffic?

[copper oasis]

Max doesn't even need to be that fast tho. Norris needs to be putting up 10 pts a weekend at this point and unless max has a dnf he can't do it

Besides that hulk podium is coming

[crisp mason]

tbf he says “this is why leclerc will win some gp”

every race

[merry reef]

Anyway Charles is 15 points behind Lando
Lando should watch out

[fierce pelican]

We’ll see, I can easily see Norris winning at least two of the five remaining races while Max finishing third or lower in them. But that doesn’t mean it’s likely to happen, ‘cause Max is insanely good on every single track ever

[merry reef]

Somehow, Ferrari have the fastest car

[crisp mason]

math isn’t mathing 245-279

[fierce pelican]

Lando finishing behind Charles would be so funny 😭 would be a tiny karma strike

[remote knoll]

except Baku

[crisp mason]

how would it be karma?

[fierce pelican]

He’s not slow in Baku, Perez is just too quick

[merry reef]

295 and 275
Please do your maths well

[remote knoll]

sounds like being slow to me /j

[fierce pelican]

😭😭

[crisp mason]

has it just not been updated?

[merry reef]

😂😂😂

[remote knoll]

probably

[copper oasis]

We had a race today man

[fierce pelican]

His words about Lewis having no competition.

[crisp mason]

i know but normally it’s updated after the race

like within a couple hours

[copper oasis]

Maybe they're busy yelling at the stewards on Twitter

[crisp mason]

i genuinely doubt that leclerc will overtake him in points

[remote knoll]

i agree and the mods should be fired

[crisp mason]

fr

[fierce pelican]

Doesn’t matter who wins this WDC, Max deserves it the most

[crisp mason]

honestly he does but lando could still take it

[merry reef]

Google is free

[crisp mason]

even charles could

[fierce pelican]

Absolutely

[crisp mason]

that’s still not 15

do you know maths?

[copper oasis]

It'd be the most legendary comeback in F1 history, and Lando ain't HIM

[crisp mason]

that’s 22.

[fierce pelican]

Seriously doubt he’ll be quicker than the McLaren’s in any other races

[crisp mason]

charles would need lando to finish p9 or lower while winning to overtake in a single race

[crisp mason]

i do too but charles has a chance of winning still with how close he is

[merry reef]

More than you do

[crisp mason]

considering you think that 297 - 275 is 15 you don’t

[copper oasis]

Ferrari was pretty quick in Mexico last year

[fierce pelican]

I kinda want him to win lol, after so much misfortune

[crisp mason]

it was the monaco win

he sold himself to the f1 gods for it

[merry reef]

Lando with the fastest car on the grid still has the same number of race as Leclerc

[copper oasis]

Love that we got dudes arguing about subtraction

[gaunt pumice]

Anything can change from one race to another

One day, Red Bull dominance, suddenly, McLaurn cracked wtf

[merry reef]

Max winning his 4th anyway

[copper oasis]

Then suddenly Haas dominance. Crazy sport

[fierce pelican]

Then proceeded to underperform in Spain, DNF in Canada, and go pointless in Spielberg & Silverstone

[polar star]

Still 5 drivers in the contension for the title

[crisp mason]

yea, he sold himself to f1 for monaco meaning he had nothing for the next races until now

[fierce pelican]

I don’t think even Sainz is telling himself that he’s got a chance

[copper oasis]

Ehhhh. Yeah but realistically it's like 2. And more realistically it's zero

[fierce pelican]

Oh, you meant that

[crisp mason]

got nothing for my response to me not knowing math?

[crisp mason]

yea

[polar star]

Zero?

Somebody gotta win

[raven wagon]

I dont consider anyone over a 100 points behind Max a title contender

[junior granite]

"contention" everyone knows it's going to be max

Lando was always going to be an outside chance

[copper oasis]

Damn that's a good point 😭

[junior granite]

I think people were just really desperate for a title fight

[gaunt pumice]

Haas to take 1-2 in Mexico trust

[copper oasis]

Subscribe

[gaunt pumice]

Wait where's next race

[copper oasis]

It's Mexico

[polar star]

Ye i was thinking contention idk why i wrote it like that mb

[gaunt pumice]

After

[stiff bough]

im desperate for max to be forced to drive with a bad car for an entire season

[gaunt pumice]

2*

[stiff bough]

recency bias like a mf rn but I genuinely hate seeing him racing other people so much

[copper oasis]

Even I'll admit tho that Ferrari Haas Gazoo is a cursed trinity of motorsport

[crisp mason]

Are we selling our souls for this?

[gaunt pumice]

Hopfully

If not that transaction was an L for me

[junior granite]

as in you don't like the way he races or you want him dominating

[stiff bough]

i dont like the way he races

[junior granite]

fair enough

[fierce pelican]

No! Nobody wins this year!

[junior granite]

it's an abusable rulebook

[gaunt pumice]

Let me win

Pls

[tawdry crater]

this goong be fun

[fierce pelican]

Hm I don’t mind

[gaunt pumice]

I am fernando almoso

[crisp mason]

who?

[stiff bough]

Max

[crisp mason]

ah

[fierce pelican]

What if Max goes insane and crashes into Zhou in all remaining races?

[gaunt pumice]

What comolaining?

[stiff bough]

and I don't like it when other drivers do the exact same thing he does because he was able to get away with it

[gaunt pumice]

Complaining?

[crisp mason]

and then they get in shit for it

[copper oasis]

Zhou is like... A minute away from Max most the time

[crisp mason]

just fia favouring max

[tawdry crater]

Thats racing .

[stiff bough]

This is not racing

[copper oasis]

Some of those who watch races
Are the same that hate races

[crisp mason]

but if max does something against rules and gets nothing but someone else does and get a pen?

that’s racing yea? right.

[gaunt pumice]

The pushing lando off the track then tryna act like he didn't do nun made me passed frfr

[junior granite]

there are plenty of other ways to race that are more fair

[crisp mason]

breaking rules is not racing

[junior granite]

I don't blame max but I think the rules are dumb as shit

[stiff bough]

I come from series like IndyCar and IMSA and NASCAR and all that where cars rub wheels and have contact all the time, forcing people off every time they attack or try to defend is not racing in my books

Good racing, I think both drivers need to make an attempt to keep it within the track

[copper oasis]

Smokey yunick absolutely seething rn

[tawdry crater]

Max has been gifting penaltys enought. But there are plenty of times they do the same to max. And wont get a penalty

you hritisch people are stupit as fk

[junior granite]

to be fair the F1 cars are made of paper mache so contact is not really on the table

[crisp mason]

yea being the only way to win a fight by pushing off track is not racing

[crisp mason]

they can make contact and have minimal performance loss

[gaunt pumice]

Just make the whole track driveable

[polar star]

Also there are 4 constructors fighting for the wcc

[gaunt pumice]

Forget track lines

[copper oasis]

Imsa is the purest racing and no one can change my mind

[tawdry crater]

dont know if u watched the laat few races.. but norris does the same. Hamilton leclerc will do the same

[crisp mason]

redbull isn’t one

[stiff bough]

Yeah, but just at least keep it on track

[rugged grove]

Lawson for RB seat 2025

[tawdry crater]

They are racers.

[peak current]

Ngl max is making F1 so boring

[rugged grove]

the crying LOL

[junior granite]

imsa is not pure safety cars erase gaps every hour

I like it but

[fierce pelican]

There are two lol

[junior granite]

let's be real

[crisp mason]

hellnah, if anyone does deserve it, it’s daniel and if he underperforms then sure

[tawdry crater]

They love hard and fair racing, the people around it just ruining the sport

[stiff bough]

imsa try to have a green flag longer than 30 seconds challenge

[gaunt pumice]

Sainz dominance would bore fans

It's never happening tho

:(

[rugged grove]

worst opinion ever

[junior granite]

pure racing is like mx5 cup lmao

[crisp mason]

lmfao

[polar star]

Mercedes is still mathematically in

[rugged grove]

cant even keep seat at VCARB

[peak current]

Nah bruh, I’m being fr, either no one wins agaisnt Max or Max just keep pushing people and still manages to stay ahead

[crisp mason]

it’s not tho, daniel when he has the car he performs

[copper oasis]

Petit le mans had less yellow than like any wec race so far this year? And that last safety car made for an unbelievable ending

[rugged grove]

Daneil is only likee cause his personality

hes not who he was anyore

yuki or lawson over daniel anyday

[crisp mason]

he scored more points than lawson last year

[fierce pelican]

I’m talking about real possibilities of winning it

[crisp mason]

in 1 race btw

[rugged grove]

yeah when ur in a rocket you will drive a rocket, if u want without then ur just as bad as checo

[fierce pelican]

I think McLaren have it in the bag

[gaunt pumice]

Sainz so humble he let Leclerc win because he humble like that 🙏🙏🙏

[junior granite]

it was good yeah but it was also an anomaly

[stiff bough]

but then after that

[tawdry crater]

he becomes old. Shoulda stop earlier. Even to perez should be gone way faster

[copper oasis]

Lawson from 75th to 9th is insane, give the man his credit

[junior granite]

the average imsa race has a ton of yellow

[stiff bough]

Ricciardo has much much higher ceiling no doubt, I mean we all know what caliber of driver he is

[rugged grove]

personally i think its just cool to watch the fights, lando was in the wrong and if he jusr gave back he could have got past another time

i think its more exicitng

[crisp mason]

you right

[rugged grove]

but fair

[junior granite]

Lawson was impressive

[stiff bough]

But at VCARB it doesn't really seem like he could hit that level consistently relative to his teammate

[crisp mason]

exactly

[copper oasis]

Average endurance race in general tbf. Wec has had more yellow than green this year

[junior granite]

don't think that's true

[crisp mason]

daniel when at redbull was really good

[raven wagon]

Mclaren was where Danny had his decline

[junior granite]

wec gaps are also preserved because they have fcy

[rugged grove]

had

[crisp mason]

he honestly had waht it took to be champion it’s just mercedes was too fast when he was there

[tawdry crater]

Hebwould get verstappen anyway. His tyres are death. Shoulda wait 1-2laps fill his battery and goes again

[rugged grove]

Riccardo is so overated

[junior granite]

other than the four hours of safety car at Le mans I guess

[crisp mason]

he’s not tho

[peak current]

I get why, but it’s exciting for the wrong reasons, like let’s be honest, if someone just gonna push you off everytime you try to pass, what else are you supposed to do? That’s not racing

[knotty mist]

That ruling for Lando and max is nuts.

[stiff bough]

Still does have it, showed it at least once this year but it's not helped when you're doing nothing for the next 5 races yknow?

[rugged grove]

maybe

[tawdry crater]

Refill your battery save up for1-2 rounds and surpass him

[copper oasis]

Go down the inside instead of the outside?

[knotty mist]

Lando needs to speak to George about Max. George and Max have tango’s a few times and George generally wins when they duel. But George handles max very differently to lando and Charles

[stiff bough]

but as long as Max is able to cover the inside early, Lando can't do anything

[tawdry crater]

max knew he has track limits there if it wasnt for gaining an advantage he would get 10 seconds for track limits

[copper oasis]

Idk if spearing the other driver counts as winning

[peak current]

Max takes the inside so he can push people off

[raven wagon]

Thats basically what f1 drivers do a lot, whenever they overtake, they do it in a way that the defending car has no chance to even try getting it back

[stiff bough]

and if Lando does go for the move outside, then he gets pushed off

[fierce pelican]

Lando needs to speak to Lewis about getting a decent getaway at the start

[rugged grove]

the thing is, compared to yuki he underperformed, he is well liked and i like him too. but the hate by his fans on lawson is unfair

[tawdry crater]

landi was to stupit to risk it all every round instead of driving smart

[stiff bough]

I mean it is what it is, the rules allow it, but I still think it's a bit of a shitty way of racing

[crisp mason]

Ppl hate lawson?

[stiff bough]

Rosberg did it, Max does it, oh well.

[knotty mist]

And that’s how you handled max. Chop across him as soon as you pass him and don’t give him any opportunities to get a cars width and dive bomb. Do that and you’re golden.

[peak current]

F1 drivers do that to an extent, Max does that a WHOLE new level

[gaunt pumice]

Isn't it just life though, taking stupid risks all the time

[raven wagon]

Michael has done it multiple times too

[junior granite]

some do for "stealing" rics seat

[wet sequoia]

He replaced Ricciardo mid season, people are upset

[copper oasis]

There were some pretty angry Ricciardo fans for a bit there but they seem to mostly have wandered off

[gaunt pumice]

Plus it's in the moment, not much time to think of the better idea

[raven wagon]

That one Montoya interview

[crisp mason]

Fia likes to favour the hated, lando might be favoured next year cos hes SOOOO hated fr

[wet sequoia]

Also some people are Tsunoda fans and are scared of Lawson

[peak current]

Says the guy that never sat in a F1 car before

[stiff bough]

there's a few on the delusion that he'll be in indycar but there is no word of that from any journalists there in regards to ricc

[tawdry crater]

It is. But not if you driving for world championship

[rugged grove]

check the inst comments man :(

[crisp mason]

Daniel?

I reckon daniel will be in v8s, they want him there

[raven wagon]

None of us here have ever sat in a f1 car before

[stiff bough]

condolences if he goes to supercars

[toxic siren]

I reckon Daniel is retired.

[junior granite]

anytime anyone leaves F1 people say they go to Indycar

[stiff bough]

that series is in the shitter rn

[gaunt pumice]

Another goatifi moment

[crisp mason]

Whyyy

[rugged grove]

it was time for daniel to go i feel to let younger drivers with more to proove into the sport

[peak current]

FIA likes the ones with deep pockets

[toxic siren]

Cause he wore a hat that said he's retired.

[gaunt pumice]

Persue the buisnessz moneey

[rugged grove]

hopefulyl lawson can keep doing what hes doing

[tawdry crater]

If you watch the champions of the last 15-20 years

[copper oasis]

Personally I thought the Riccardo ➡️ Nascar move seemed to have the most credibility

[tawdry crater]

Lewis max alonso vettel

[crisp mason]

Im going to a race next year and if hes there ill be so happy

[rugged grove]

P19 to P9 in ur first race in a year and half debut is mad

[raven wagon]

Ferrari International Assistance

[rugged grove]

Also lewis really struggled that weekend

[tawdry crater]

They all know when to take the risk and how to lure the others in making mistakes

[peak current]

Exactly so you can’t just say “save that battery and boom” like bruh

[junior granite]

didn't they just introduce some really gimmicky NASCAR type shit

[raven wagon]

As ppl used to label fia back in the 2000s

[stiff bough]

Yes.

[rugged grove]

Predictions for Mexico GP?

[junior granite]

rip

just as Toyota joined too

[stiff bough]

playoffs is always a bad system

[tawdry crater]

norris is just a rookie never been in this situation and to greedy

same was as max was in 2019

[gaunt pumice]

I didn't even know they started putting battery stats idk what it does lmao

What have they changed since early 2024

[stiff bough]

or they'll go to wec or nascar or whatever, but they don't really consider logic in those predictions either

[tawdry crater]

Leclerc going win

Norris/

[copper oasis]

Idk if you can still be a rookie when you've been in the car for 5 years...

[peak current]

Verstappen gets 2nd and Norris 1st In qualifying and Verstappen divebombs Norris at first turn making both lose their position.

[tawdry crater]

2

[stiff bough]

because ricciardo has said he wont race ovals, and indycar teams especially now will not sign a road course only driver,

[gaunt pumice]

Sainz P1

🙏

[tawdry crater]

Real mature answer.

[stiff bough]

Not unless you're gonna field your own car or bring big bucks to deal with that entire thing

[peak current]

Then the fanboys come up and call that “racing”

[copper oasis]

Double Haas points 🔥

[junior granite]

I mean F1 drivers can probably afford it but yeah doesn't make much sense

[raven wagon]

Well its a long run down till turn 1 and Max can just do his 2021 move and overtake round the outside

[junior granite]

haas being good is wild

[raven wagon]

Not the first time they are good anyway

[peak current]

Outside is not on his vocab for the past 2 years

[fierce pelican]

Wait just realised Zhou won’t be competing anymore from 2025. Crikey

[gaunt pumice]

Nico Hulkenburger in the points 🙏🙏

[west yoke]

norris did not deserve the penalty

[peak current]

🤯

[west yoke]

maFIA

[copper oasis]

It's zhouver

[stiff bough]

and the current talent surrounding indy rn, it's just not worth it to pick up a declining F1 driver over an upcoming talent who never ended up getting that F1 opportunity like Theo, Callum, Robert, Lundgaard, etc etc etc etc

im only listing the ones that came from F2

[west yoke]

boohoo bro sucks anyways lol

[gaunt pumice]

Where was Kmagnet at

[copper oasis]

That's why I thought the move to Nascar made more sense.
Nascar desperately needs a good story rn

[rugged grove]

can see it

i feel a max win

[gaunt pumice]

No

[rugged grove]

lawson points RAH

[junior granite]

hasn't NASCAR had a a bunch of photo finishes this season

[rugged grove]

hope he beats yuki every race

[copper oasis]

HELL YEAH 🔥

[rugged grove]

secure the RB seat

do my country proud Liam

Mclaren is a new zealand time 🗣️

[west yoke]

why is max genuinely so bad at wheel to wheel racing though

like is bro allergic to being fair

[copper oasis]

I do wonder if that's all it'd take. Like if lawson beats Yuki in most of the remaining races... Is that it? Straight to redbull? Idk

Redbull not having the balls to grab Sainz was a huge fumble imo

[west yoke]

yea cause checo is gone after this season

[rugged grove]

lando is allergic to having a good start

[little linden]

Lando just got schooled by max lmao what

[rugged grove]

i suppose yeah

[winged dagger]

LIAM TO RED BULL HEAR ME OUT HE CLIMBED 70 PLACES INCLUDING HIS 60 GRID PENALTY TO FINISH P9

[raven wagon]

Cause he has the "You yield or we crash" mentality, which many f1 champs had

[west yoke]

bro had a great start, verstappen just torpedoed him to the extent that even he lost positions lmao

[rugged grove]

cause liam technically doesnt have a seat for 2025

[winged dagger]

IN A VCARB 🔥

[little linden]

🔥 🗣️

[peak current]

Bruh he had a good start, but there was a torpedo behind him, what do you expect

[rugged grove]

so its like a trial

RB or RB

[stiff bough]

idk why they dont give him the contract

like

[rugged grove]

https://tenor.com/view/pills-drugs-medicine-blue-pill-red-pill-gif-12463860

[stiff bough]

didnt mean to reply to you

[west yoke]

unfair and dangerous

[fierce pelican]

Get him in that McLaren and he’ll beat Bottas

[raven wagon]

He got penalised for a lot of his moves and incidents anyway

[rugged grove]

but when other did it it was ok?

[stiff bough]

like it doesnt matter because the juniors are signed under the red bull umbrella, so they can be moved around as RB pleases so i dont see why there is a hold up on lawson

[west yoke]

what penalty did max get bro

[west yoke]

no thats why people also complained numbskull

[peak current]

Red Bull should be happy FIA is on their side, and just chill, because it wasn’t fair at all