monaco-gp

[wet sequoia]

Except he did finish P5

The penalty is nothing more then a slap on the wrist

[sage pike]

Because he was 10 secs ahead of uh, I forgot maybe Hamilton wjo was behind him

[sage pike]

Do you want him to receive a 40 second penalty or what

You give penalties based on actions and not consequences

[wet sequoia]

He finished 17 seconds ahead of Hulkenburg

[sage pike]

So the penalty wouldn't affect

That's not the stewards fault

That's just max being faster than hulk who's in a much slower car

[wet sequoia]

It’s there fault they were slow in flagging Max, if they did it sooner the crash would never have happened

[sage pike]

By this logic should they not have flagged lando too?

[wet sequoia]

Norris is the least responsible party of the 3

He shouldn’t have divebombed so much out of frustration but it’s the result of stewards being lazy and Verstappen not maturing since 2021

[sage pike]

I don't agree with this but this still goes, least responsible doesn't mean unresponsible

[wet sequoia]

Cost Norris all his points and for Verstappen just a race win

[sage pike]

OKAY wow this is just you being biased at this point

[sage pike]

"Just a race win"

This cost them both much

[wet sequoia]

He still got points and enough to widen the gap from Norris more

[sage pike]

Lando more than verstappen because he unfortunately had a puncture

[wet sequoia]

And a penalty that is probably the biggest joke since Verstappen laughed at the stewards giving him time penalties last year

[sage pike]

Because he knows he can outdrive the penalties

Man don't leave this debate was getting fun 😔

[stiff bough]

the level for wdc capable drivers goes down to the likes of JV and Jenson Button, I wouldn't be so quick to write him off like that

[wet sequoia]

Had to finish driving home; stopped for dinner while an accident was cleared

[sage pike]

Ouch is everyone alright

[wet sequoia]

Long weekend in Australia approaching, payday today, someone was drunk driving and road raging

[sage pike]

Lovely, Australia sounds just like my country

Just less drunk driving

[wet sequoia]

It’s not so bad usually, depending on what’s on and the time of the week

[sage pike]

Ah no Lebanon is literally drunk drivers, shootings and terrorism daily

Love this place to death though

[wet sequoia]

Well Penrith is in the finals and I have to drive close to that suburb to get home

[sage pike]

How bad is it

[wet sequoia]

Eh, from what I gleaned the dkhead has a concussion and a hefty repair bill for his car, plus probably no license for a few years

[narrow garnet]

Not a long weekend in Victoria, tho I guess we just had one

[wet sequoia]

I forgot your dates had changed

You just have the grand final long weekend now, we just have Labour Day holiday

[narrow garnet]

Labour day in Victoria is in March

before the AFL GF holiday, we had none between the monarch's birthday holiday and Melb cup day

[sage pike]

Haha deserved

[snow swan]

i have a slight feeling that lewis may win in austin, (i am not being baised) he has always been good and previously he has been on p2 twice alongside max except when in 2023 he was disqualified. and also merc are bringing upgrades so there is a slight chance.

[wet sequoia]

So are Ferrari (Small) and Red Bull

[winged dagger]

i think Lewis has a chance on the podium but I think Lando will win again tbh

i expect worst case scenario (for me) is lando winning the rest and wins the WDC

[snow swan]

if he win all the races and psrint withmax p2 he would loose by 1 point.

[wet sequoia]

Did you include fastest lap?

[snow swan]

Yes.

[wet sequoia]

Huh, I don’t think Piastri or Leclerc will let those 2 continue their championship battle in peace

[snow swan]

Current Standings:

• Max: 331 points
• Lando: 279 points
  
  Points from Regular Races (6 races remaining):
• Lando (P1 in all): +150 points (Total: 429 points)
• Max (P2 in all): +108 points (Total: 439 points)
  
  Points from Sprint Races (3 sprints):
• Lando (P1 in all); +24 points (Total: 453 points)
• Max (P2 in all): +21 points (Total: 460 points)
  
  Final Totals:
• Lando: 453 points
• Max: 460 points
  
  Conclusion:
  Max wins with 460 points, while Lando finishes with 453 points.

if you add 6 points for fastest lap then too LANDO looses by a point.

[wet sequoia]

In the highly unlikely scenario that occurs I bet you any money the first thing everyone will bring up is McLaren not letting Norris win Hungary

If Norris loses by anything less then 7 points that will be bought up

[snow swan]

PAPAYA RULES

in hungary he lost potential 7 points.

which is very crucial.

also lando and mclaren choked up a lot.. and by lot i mean it. he could've won in silverstone,spain,imola,canada and the list goes on

[narrow garnet]

choked 8 points in China sprint too

[winged dagger]

will we see an absolute cinema in abu dhabi 2024?

[wet sequoia]

Depends on the next 5 races

[echo urchin]

Lando isnt going to win every race left and Max isnt going to get second every race, even both happening at the same time

its very unlikely

[winged dagger]

and then magnussen crashes = safety car

[tacit mountain]

And there's a chance max might win another race

[wet sequoia]

The best McLaren can hope for is the upgrades don’t work for Red Bull and Max doesn’t get a podium for COTA and Mexico

Otherwise the chances of a WDC for Norris are slim

If he scores big those 2 races and Max doesn’t he has a lot of hope

[queen orbit]

realistically max has to dnf/throw a race minimum
for lando to win

[desert axle]

I know Mclaren is the team to beat right now but considering Lando winning all of the remaining races would be a challenge. Oscar will definitely steal wins from him.

[wet sequoia]

McLaren is fine with 2 #1 drivers, if any win stealing occurs it will be at the start of the race

Neither driver will give up a win and Norris has already stated he won’t ask for them

Unsure if they’ll pull a Leclerc 22 though

[desert axle]

They're really like the Mercedes 2016 but the only different they're the one chasing points

Lando winning the championship this season still depends on Max and Redbull performance

[wet sequoia]

Well Piastri is not in a title battle, his fight is with Leclerc for 3rd

Mercedes 2016 was Rosberg saying fuck your 1-2 driver labels and taking the championship

Next year is the potential title battle, depending on the development from Ferrari, Mercedes and McLaren over the off-season

[desert axle]

Yup but Oscar doesnt give a damn about Lando's shot at the WDC

[wet sequoia]

He does but he won’t throw wins and podium places (If they’re running 3-4)

He’s said he will support his battle when possible

But he also runs his own race and won’t just be the sacrificial pawn for Norris

Otherwise you best make sure Webber is not in the paddock if that occurs

[desert axle]

Too late now I guess. They should seal WCC this season and just try the WDC next year with a clearer rules between the two

[wet sequoia]

It’s not really because of Papaya rules

Norris has made mistakes of his own to hurt his championship fight

And the team has always stated since Piastri has come into his own that they won’t enforce a 1-2 dynamic

It’s a massive internal headache but the only one to suffer from this is Norris

Piastri is the new Iceman, he doesn’t particularly care what happens around him but focuses on his own race

[sly badger]

If Lando wins all 6 races plus Sprints and Max finishes 3rd in one of them,Lando wins the season

In the Lando wins and Max is 2nd in all races situation,Lando loses by one point

[desert axle]

That's what I like about him. He's chill and drives like he already have a 10 years of F1 experience. He does everything under control even if he make some minor mistakes.
On the other hand, Lando's ego is always above of his head.

Next year if Mclaren continues this kind of performance and points are back to 0. I can't wait to see Oscar outperform Lando lol

[sly badger]

And if Max and Lando end on equal points,there'd be factors like amount of wins as a tie break

[desert axle]

Bet he can't win all the remaining races

[sly badger]

Well,Lando needs to hope on finding two extra points somewhere to avoid losing by one point or on a tie-break

[echo urchin]

basically max would have to be outside the top 7-8 in the races that lando wins

for lando to have decent chances of winning wdc

[sly badger]

And another deciding factor in this last run of races is reliability becoming a big worry for everyone

[desert axle]

Stop giving yourselves headaches calculating, Max will still win this years championship lol

[echo urchin]

you cant predict the future like this when 2 drivers potentially 3 can fight for the wdc

Anything can happen

[stiff venture]

You can’t predict but there are most likely situations.

[desert axle]

Max just needs to finish all the remaining races inside the top 8. Meanwhile Lando needs to win all

[desert axle]

Yup, exactly

[echo urchin]

There are chances max dnfs as well, but like you said its likely that it doesnt happen

But itspossible

[stiff venture]

If lando wins every race and max comes second he should win but the problem is that piastri, chuck, and merc boys also have a shot at winning at least one of the upcoming races each

[stiff venture]

It would be pretty lame if lando wins due to an dnf from max

[desert axle]

yup exactly! It's not just about Lando and Max. There's some drivers who will surely battle with them and steal some decent points.

[echo urchin]

thats basically what has to happen in order for lando to have a good chance of winning

or charles

[stiff venture]

It is the biggest point swing but idk. This isn’t the 90s where wins were based on which cars broke the most

Personally I don’t root for DNFs to decide a result. With that said it would be interesting to see a surge from Ferrari and chuck goes on to win more of the upcoming races.

[cold solar]

ferrari and mercedes need to get involved
they are capable of battling the mclarens and verstappen
but we'll see

[wet sequoia]

Ferrari are involved, have been since Monza

They just dropped the ball in qualifying for Singapore

[queen orbit]

rmb that lando will win in a tiebreak because he will have 9 wins

[languid spade]

We'll see for Ferrari with their new upgrades.

[winged dagger]

MAX PLS WIN ONE MORE RACE 🙏🏻

[winged dagger]

yep that too. leclerc has been competitive since monza

still climbed 4 places in singapire

[kindred cedar]

What happens if they tie at then end?

[wet sequoia]

Whoever has the most GO wins gets first

If tied they go down the order until one driver beats the other

I think

It’s gotten confusing sometimes

[zealous ginkgo]

everyone wants to win tho

[reef zenith]

Included the younger drivers in better cars

[winged dagger]

alonso’s also a rookie though

[narrow garnet]

https://x.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1841529450258670043?t=qCiKr0MR8EV13oviDtcKZA&s=19

Chris Medland (@ChrisMedlandF1) on X

The FIA has confirmed the rookies race after Abu Dhabi won't happen this year "due to timing and organisational constraints".

Has widespread support and will be planned for 2025 #F1

Twitter · Oct 2, 2024, 5:23 PM

boooooo

[snow swan]

o

[winged dagger]

with my calculations leclerc can still win the WDC

we can do it guys

[hot timber]

the premise is that norris and verstappen f up miserably

[livid cobalt]

and if ferrari uses a good strategy

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/movies-anchorman-hahahaha-good-one-laughing-gif-16431905

[hot timber]

honestly i don't think that we're getting that wdc

[runic parrot]

Closest ferrari can get is beating redbull to #2 if they can get closer to max and maybe beat him idrk

[paper atlas]

the odds of lance stroll finsihing on the podium is bigger

[snow swan]

I don't know, Ferrari strategies haven't been a complete disaster as of late.

[wooden kettle]

BOOOOOOO

(i also understand)

(but also. dude i wanna see a rookies race so bad)

[jagged cloak]

better late than never ig

[paper atlas]

key word : complete

[hot timber]

this is depressing

[signal violet]

@hushed wadi hey, so like... can you stop posting verstappen on instagram and twitter?? i have a friend who ships herself with max, and when she saw your accounts she literally had a mental breakdown :/ please do everyone a favor and private yourself or delete everything. you're being selfish and insensitive. she thinks verstappen hates her now and is cheating on her so pls do what's best and delete everything or go private

[wooden kettle]

DDJDHBSKEKDKSDJSBSBSB

[lime fog]

what the shit

[twin fox]

Who is younger than Alonso?

[lime fog]

all of them

[twin fox]

What are you talking about mate, Alonso is the youngest driver on the grid 😂

[wooden kettle]

yeah he’s a rookie yknow

[twin fox]

Exactly

[paper atlas]

do yall reckon lando win this wdc?

[queen orbit]

me

[paper atlas]

reckon he copuld

[queen orbit]

its pretty unlikely unless max makes big mistake

[paper atlas]

if he stops taking ferarri strats

[queen orbit]

yeah

[paper atlas]

hes only human

[twin fox]

He could, but it's extremely tough, he will have to pull of a once in a lifetime performance

[twin fox]

Lol,

[paper atlas]

ye but max aint no raicing ai

he could make mistakes 2

[twin fox]

True

He certainly can

But he is very consistent, he rarely makes any Blunders.
But anything can happen in racing. One dnf for max and P1 for Lando is straight up half the lead gone.

It's gonna be exciting : )

[cold solar]

wtf

[paper atlas]

same thing other way around tho

[twin fox]

Yea, other way round and it's championship gone for Lando.

I personally don't care who wins at the end, all I want is it to go down to the wire.

It's only fun when it's close

[paper atlas]

Unless max decides to copy paste

[stiff venture]

Can you explain further

[winter canopy]

yo anyone from Austin?

[wooden wing]

Nope

[paper atlas]

idk

u gonna be at the gp?

[craggy marsh]

yuh

[lethal bramble]

What are you doing in this situation

[stiff bough]

i'd be raging at whoevers dumbass at ferrari thought gasly was a good hire

[wet sequoia]

Cracking a cold one and cooking some popcorn

[idle light]

sitting back and enjoying the chaos

[pure aurora]

gasley got more wins than michael fucking schumacher this year

lower your tone when you speak of his holiness, Piere Gasley

[paper atlas]

celebrate charles' un torturing

[past plover]

No he doesn’t 😭

[keen pagoda]

Yes he does

(Both are zero but one has points)

[cyan saffron]

cry

[lethal bramble]

cry is crazy

[cyan saffron]

I don't mind Charles at Mercedes and Carlos at Audi, but Pierre at Ferrari is just a crime.

[alpine yacht]

🙂

[lethal bramble]

Ocon goes to Haas so Pierre one-ups him by getting Ferrari

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[alpine yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/mclaren-f1-bye-chat-oscar-piastri-f1-mclaren-gif-6038710401169120084

[hushed wadi]

HE'S ALIVE

THE KING HAS RETURNED

best verstappen fan in existence

[echo igloo]

what kind of ego is that

[pure aurora]

yes he does 😭

(I meant in 2021 sorry guys I miscalculated)

[pure aurora]

chat is this #1186143313200427038 worthy

[craggy zenith]

The most borked one you've ever seen

[hexed zephyr]

fuck yeah

imo

[dim dock]

alrrr i have a question guys why is austin specifically the US gp and miami and las vegas arent ? just wonderin

[oblique elk]

it was the first one, so it keeps the name

[echo igloo]

ik ikk

[dim dock]

ahhh i see

[iron silo]

Mf posts about a public figure and is deemed selfish and insensitive?? 😬

[coarse obsidian]

Answer: Laughing.

[craggy zenith]

I wouldn't argue with that one

[zealous ginkgo]

🤯

[winged dagger]

we need latifi back in f1

bro scored more points in 2022 than 3 schumachers, 2 rosbergs, 2 piquets and 3 hills, 2 sennas

[remote knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/laughter-emoji-gif-26681851

[winged dagger]

wait mick scored more than latifi

fuck

[remote knoll]

lol

[lethal bramble]

2025 calendar is much better designed than this years slop

Australia
China
1 week break

Japan
Bahrain
Saudi
1 week break

Miami
1 week break

Imola
Monaco
Spain
1 week break

Canada
1 week break

Austria
Silverstone
2 week break

Belgium
Hungary
3 week break

Netherlands
Monza
1 week break

Baku
1 week break

Singapore
1 week break

COTA
Mexico
1 week break

Brazil
1 week break

Las Vegas
Qatar
Abu Dhabi

[lethal bramble]

So in total the 2025 calendar is 2 weeks shorter than the 2024 calendar, but that feels like an improvement

[remote knoll]

hopefully less breaks

[stiff venture]

We have only had 2 breaks relax

[remote knoll]

Yes

and make it 1 less

[stiff venture]

No, no the drivers and crew deserve a break. Prevents burnt out

[remote knoll]

The season is long

forgot about that

[stiff venture]

It's because it's long that they need braks

[winged arrow]

i feel like i dont usually notice the breaks

[wooden kettle]

ah so they WERE at vcarb

[stiff venture]

I notice but I don’t mind them haha

[crude river]

what is Binotto doin in there xD

[oblique elk]

he works at sauber

[stiff venture]

He isn’t TP tho right?

[oblique elk]

nope

i dont know saubers tp off the top of my head actually

oh it's seidl

[split bane]

isn't Seidl replaced with Binotto?

[oblique elk]

no he's not tp

he's more on the technical side

[split bane]

i know that Binotto isn't the tp, but i read somewhere that Seidl was fired or something

[cyan saffron]

Seidl left

[hushed wadi]

jonathan wheatley

[cyan saffron]

together with Oliver Hoffmann

And they got replaced by Wheatley and Binotto.

[crude flame]

He is COO and CTO

Wheatley is the TP but he still works for Red Bull so obviously could not be there in his role as TP

[coarse obsidian]

What is going on here? What to do with Red Bull's second team? Fixing some rules? Or laughing at NASCAR?

[crude flame]

F1 Commission Meeting

[south heron]

sorry for being such a noob but who's the guy besides Toto

to the left of him obv, I know who Ayao Komatsu is

[fleet aspen]

Drivers Grid 2025

Redbull

• Max Verstappen 🇳🇱🦁
• Sergio Perez 🇲🇽

Scudaria Ferrari

• Charles Leclerc 🇲🇨
• Lewis Hamilton 🇬🇧

McLaren

• Lando Norris 🇬🇧
• Oscar Piastri 🇦🇺

Mercedes

• George Russel 🇬🇧
• Kimi Antonelli 🇮🇹

Aston Martin

• Fernando Alonso 🇪🇸
• Lance Stroll 🇨🇦

Williams

• Alexander Albon 🇹🇭
• Carlos Sainz 🇪🇸

HAAS

• Ollie Bearman 🇬🇧
• Esteban Ocon 🇫🇷

VCARB

• Yuki Tsunoda 🇯🇵
• (TBC)

Alpine

• Pierre Gasly 🇫🇷
• Jack Doohan 🇦🇺

Kick Sauber

• Nico Hulkenberg 🇩🇪
• (TBC)

[stark pendant]

yummy

[tawny mason]

Why was it held at VCARB

[stiff venture]

Piastri and stroll are in the wrong spot. They are the number 1 drivers for their teams

[stiff venture]

No one has a contract for that seat for next year

[queen orbit]

W calendar

[quartz hill]

Isn't Liam Lawson driving for VCARB?

[stiff bough]

No, because he doesn't have a contract for 2025.

[lethal bramble]

DTS season 7 coverage of this meeting
Toto jumps onto the table and walks over to Horner
"I told you I have it printed out."

[regal needle]

Morning Team. 2 Weeks Left until it's Practice in COTA

[wooden kettle]

i cant waittttt

usisirnakdhskd

[unreal folio]

fr

[regal needle]

Might not just Eminem that will be in COTA

Last Year, Elon Musk join the Paddock since Miami

[dire pivot]

I want fast cars going in circles back on my tv 😢😢😢

[rapid horizon]

it has been too long without f1

I'm tweaking over here

[regal needle]

But we'll be back soon

[rapid horizon]

us gp hurry up please

i need time go fast like car

[regal needle]

We're gonna see who will take that Sauber Seat

[rapid horizon]

😞🙏

[regal needle]

Liam might get his 2025 Season soon

[rapid horizon]

could you imagine daniel ricciardo lol

[regal needle]

I don't think so yet

[rapid horizon]

would be wild if so

[regal needle]

Franco and Gabriel is the Top Choice right now

We still haven't got any Circuit renewed their Contract yet until 2025

Monza, Shanghai, Mexico, Monaco, Zandvoort and Imola haven't renewed their Contract

[rapid horizon]

all new circuits for 2025?!?!

[regal needle]

Contract Renewal i suppose

[rapid horizon]

i love zandvoort

so peak

[regal needle]

We'll wait if the Contract is fully Renewed

Spanish Grand Prix in Barcelona is currently under consideration Later when it's Grand Prix will be move to Madrid

[rapid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/fernando-alonso-formel1-formula1-f1-gif-10123119

[regal needle]

2025 will be the Last Year for Renault as it will be the First Time we won't see it in 2026 since 1988

[rapid horizon]

poor poor renault

was so good up until when it wasnt

[regal needle]

Mercedes likely will be Alpine New Engine Power Unit

[rapid horizon]

would be insane for alpine

[regal needle]

Ferrari next Year should have their New Sponsor, UniCredit to replace Santander

Probably will be also called as Scuderia Ferrari UniBank HP

[rapid horizon]

long name bruh

[regal needle]

Guess Scuderia Ferrari HP it is

[quartz hill]

I wish colapinto stays in f1

[regal needle]

He's currently Looking for his Seat Later

Leave that to James Vowles

[quartz hill]

I want him to take strolls seat

[rapid horizon]

everyone wishes that 💀🙏

[quartz hill]

Real

[regal needle]

Lance still had 2 Years with Aston Martin

[stiff venture]

If Toto speaks with them it will be colapinto

[rapid horizon]

anyone could take strolls seat and we would be cheering

[quartz hill]

Yea

[stiff venture]

Stroll owns the team

[wooden kettle]

absolutely not.

[regal needle]

Lance will probably stays after he Left his Seat empty

It's because his Dad invested Aston Martin

[rapid horizon]

daniel ricciardo would probably drive faster in a wheelie bin

[wooden kettle]

💀

[quartz hill]

Fr

P19 and P20 is confirmed for sauber

[wooden kettle]

i like sauber because my goats chou and bottas are ther

[stiff venture]

Riccardo can barely drive the vcarb

[wooden kettle]

omg i cant spell

[rapid horizon]

sauber cars built like soapbox racing

[quartz hill]

Fr

[rapid horizon]

and somewhat still faster

[regal needle]

Sauber had a Poor Performance as we can saw so far

[quartz hill]

I'd say soapbox racing is faster

[wooden kettle]

yeah sauber is cooked

[rapid horizon]

fortunately anyone can beat a sauber car

sorry I lied about that

[stiff venture]

Are you guys talking about kick?

[wooden kettle]

yes

[regal needle]

Without AR, Sauber now becoming Slow unless we wait 2 More Years for Audi

[quartz hill]

Yea

[quartz hill]

Man out qualified perez

[wooden kettle]

MY GOAT

[regal needle]

Last Year in COTA, The Guest was Drew Barrymore and Elon Musk

[wooden kettle]

oh god

[regal needle]

Who should we hope next?

[wooden kettle]

pleaseno elon

[rapid horizon]

who do you think will replace checo

[regal needle]

Better not be Yuki

[rapid horizon]

obviously not 2025 because he's a goalkeeper for max

[quartz hill]

I want bottas

He's the perfect teammate

[stiff venture]

Lawson in 2027

[rapid horizon]

I hope not bottas let's be real with how redbull is rn

he has a better chance in the kick sauber rn

[quartz hill]

💀

[regal needle]

Bottas had been with Ferrari Power Unit since 2022 ago

[quartz hill]

Nah but fr the sister teams have a faster car than the actual team

[rapid horizon]

redbull gives you wings but they don't make you superman

[regal needle]

We should have Liam Lawson Update Opening Later once we head to COTA

[split bane]

If he retires after Mexico GP idk, i would have said Ricciardo but he's already out... maybe Lawson or Hadjar, or someone that is not in the Red-Bull family right now

[rapid horizon]

my goat sargeant doesn't need wings to fly

[quartz hill]

Wish he pulls off alonso move

And comes back

[stiff venture]

Who is this?

[rapid horizon]

holy moly

[quartz hill]

U fr?

[regal needle]

That's Kimi

Raikkonen

[quartz hill]

Well It's just a guy who won a wdc and f1 is a hobby

[stiff venture]

For once I would like to ask without everyone asking me if I’m really asking

[stiff venture]

Wait I thought he was a Ferrari driver

[split bane]

The last man who won the wdc with Ferrari

[quartz hill]

He was

[regal needle]

He was

[rapid horizon]

I don't understand how he could say that with a straight face to be honest

[stiff venture]

I thought that was mick’s uncle

[quartz hill]

That's how he is

[split bane]

Kimi won the last wdc with Ferrari in 2007

[wet sequoia]

Hadjar won’t be put into Red Bull, if he wins F2 and Lawson beats Tsunoda for the rest of the year next year will probably be Verstappan/Lawson and Tsunoda/Hadjar

[stiff venture]

I mean both max and bottas have said f1 is a hobby too

[regal needle]

We got Chloe Chambers joining Red Bull next Year

[wet sequoia]

It comes down to F2 championship and Lawson a lot for Red Bull, they’ve put themselves into this driver market situation

[stiff bough]

when you ask silly things despite obviously knowing the person they're talking about, that tends to happen

[regal needle]

The Haas Female Driver move to Red Bull after 2024

[stiff venture]

I don’t think yuki survives another year if hadjar does week his first year

[wooden kettle]

one of the most successful trolls on of1d fr

[rapid horizon]

I feel like bottas fans don't even know he is an f1 driver with the stuff he does on tiktok

[quartz hill]

Fr

[wet sequoia]

You tend to make a lot of comments laced with sarcasm

[quartz hill]

Alonso mews

[regal needle]

Real

[stiff venture]

True but when I ask who someone if I am asking. I joke about things I know

[fickle forum]

He needs a better car man

[regal needle]

Alonso was like: I'm still the Bad Guy 😁

[quartz hill]

Still remember when valterri slowed down but still got fastest lap

[stiff bough]

shouldnt have signed with sauber then smh

[rapid horizon]

put him in a vcarb and he even has a chance then

[wet sequoia]

Bottas is the perfect #2 driver but looking at how it went for Perez they need a fast driver in the 2nd Red Bull

[fickle forum]

Best rookie on the grid

[stiff venture]

Wait the fossil was considered the bad guy back in the day?

[wet sequoia]

You’ve seen the comments he made about Schumacher having kids right?

[regal needle]

Maybe

[stiff venture]

No

[stiff bough]

It's not really possible for Red Bull to get a proper #2 who is fast enough to be useful and hard headed enough to not internally combust next to Verstappen

[fickle forum]

Perez isn't bad, it's just that you always get compared and rated based on your teammate

[wet sequoia]

Alonso was the bad guy because he said he had no kids and nothing to lose, Schumacher does so Alonso knows he can go all out

[fickle forum]

Oh yeah that was a sick move

[wet sequoia]

Look at the rest of the grid, all 3 of the other main teams have a GP win per driver

[stiff bough]

hey perez has a GP win too!!!

just...

been two years

or nearly rather

[fickle forum]

Yeah i guess so, but the redbull isn't that good anymore

[wet sequoia]

Imagine Perez next year, he’ll probably be beaten by both Aston’s and Alpine

[wet sequoia]

Max has how many wins this year in that “shit” car?

[stiff bough]

Although even in it's current state, Max is able to put in regular podiums and top 5's

Perez went out in Q2 and did fuck all in Singapore 😭

[fickle forum]

It was still good going into this season but since the whole team falling apart so did the cars pace

[quartz hill]

Yea

[regal needle]

Checo definitely once in a while was a Ferrari Driver Academy

He should have go with Ferrari or Haas

[quartz hill]

He was

[wet sequoia]

Regardless even after the civil war Max got a few wins and Perez never made it to Q3

Perez is not a great driver, not anymore

[fickle forum]

Maybe its the setup of the car like albon once explained years ago

[regal needle]

Checo back at Baku goes Full George Russell when he question angrily on Carlos turn Left Towards him

[quartz hill]

Perez's win I force india sealed his red bull seat

Other wise he would have stayed in force india

[regal needle]

"What the Fuck is he even doing Man?! Is he Crazy or What? Fucking Idiot!" - Sergio Perez

[stiff bough]

The thing with the setup is that Checo can work with the team to tune its handling to his liking

I'd think it has more to do with his limited adaptability.

[quartz hill]

"What happened guys.. I don't understand"- carlos

[fickle forum]

Who was found guilty in the end? To me it feels more like an unlucky racing incident

[stiff bough]

Which in simple terms is what we call a skill issue

[fickle forum]

He sounded so sad

[stiff venture]

He needs to do more iracing

[regal needle]

Nobody's Fault actually. Still someone feels Delusional to think it was Checo or Carlos Fault

[wet sequoia]

Racing incident, a lot of commentators blame Sainz more but Perez was in the wrong position first

[fickle forum]

Yeah figured that would be it, Carlos did slightly pull a bit to the left but nothing that could be really done

[wet sequoia]

It’s a street circuit, you don’t want to be grinding the walls

[quartz hill]

Ikr

[regal needle]

If Checo try Assetto Corsa EVO next January, He might be able to Drive like a Pro Driver

[wet sequoia]

Perez had a whole road to use

[stiff venture]

Have you played it?

[regal needle]

It's not Out yet

[wet sequoia]

I know you want to be on the racing line but Perez boxing Sainz near a wall was a poor race choice

[stiff bough]

racing line slightly drifts to the left, despite 99% of these crashes resulting in a racing incident decision, usually if you must put fault on a car, with neither being erratic it goes to the overtaking car

[stiff venture]

Oh… how do you know it would help?

[regal needle]

I think many Driver might give this New Assetto Corsa Game a Try

[stiff bough]

im still skeptical on it ngl

[regal needle]

If their Driving not gonna be Gone to Worse, I sure hope so

[stiff venture]

Will it have f1 cars?

[regal needle]

We'll see

[stiff bough]

ACC was pretty shit on its first release and I kinda feel like ACE is gonna be the same way

[stiff venture]

Why is that

[fickle forum]

Not sure if it will be ale to overdo current ac, shaders now are already insanely good

[stiff bough]

Along with them being super avoiding of the question "will it have mod support"

[stiff venture]

To be fair that is a lot of games these days.

[regal needle]

No Shit

[quartz hill]

If it has no mods then it is cooked

[stiff venture]

Mods? Like moderators for the online racing?

[wet sequoia]

Most games don’t want leaks so deliberately release a game that doesn’t get you past half a hour and with parts missing

[regal needle]

Teenagers Actor this Days haven't tried Supercars

No, Don't bring Teenagers for Supercars

[stiff venture]

Yeah basically.

[wet sequoia]

Also games are bigger then they used to be

[stiff bough]

me when i am in an uncompressed game files competition and my competitor is call of duty:

[wet sequoia]

Something will go wrong in that 200gb game compared to the 10gb GTA SA game you can download like shit

[quartz hill]

Like car mods

And track mods

[stiff bough]

A tier wifi is basically a requirement to play any modern game these days

[regal needle]

Game can usually also had a Tournament too, You know

Basically like F1 Game and Gran Turismo

[wet sequoia]

I got COD MW for ps4 and was surprised how they adapted the game packs style because in the end it took up 300gb with it all downloaded

[stiff venture]

Define A tier

[regal needle]

Yeah, Yeah! 😁

[stiff bough]

thats a third of the entire terabyte of storage you get 😭

[regal needle]

Game Racing doesn't should go with 100 GB you know

[wet sequoia]

I only played the campaign and like 6 hours of Warzone

[regal needle]

It's too Much

[stiff venture]

I’m pretty sure ps4 came with 500gb

[wet sequoia]

Originally, it maxes at 1TB now

I know, I have 2 PS4 consoles

[stiff venture]

I see

[regal needle]

PS5 had 1 TB

I go with that One basically

[wet sequoia]

825gb on release

The pro is like 1.25TB

[stiff venture]

I do like that if you add more storage it’s on top of that 1tb.

[stiff bough]

I think iRacing with all content downloaded is close to or over 100gb

[regal needle]

I use to had Computer with 1 TB but i go with 600 Gb

[regal needle]

Maybe i'll give that a Try

[wet sequoia]

You can put them onto hard drives but you have to move game files back and forth

[hearty trench]

dem

[wet sequoia]

I only have GTA and GT7 perma installed on my ps5

Other games I delete and install as I use them

[stiff bough]

soon to be GTA 6 perma installed

[hearty trench]

Fr

[wet sequoia]

If we’re lucky 😭

Let us be real here

[stiff bough]

games gonna be fuckin

700gb or something

[regal needle]

Best hope GTA 6 in PS5 not that Big

If we play Racing Game that has Bigger Size, That'll be Bad

[wet sequoia]

It’s like 87gb now

For GTA V

From a quick search

You can expect GTA VI to be 200gb minimum

Doubly so when Online and all the extra islands/content packs are released

[regal needle]

I doubt that much

[wet sequoia]

Keep in mind RDR2 for PS4 is about 120gb

The last major Rockstar release

Games are not getting smaller as well

And you can bet that GTA VI will have a much bigger map and much more content then RDR2

AND just to put more icing on that oversized cake, GTA V on ps3 the original console it came out on was about 17.2 from a search

[regal needle]

F1 2021 almost goes to 90 GB

Crazy to what Codemasters doing for Adding more Podium Pass

[sullen star]

Fun fact the ps4 will soon be 13y old

Its crazy how advancements arent as big

A console from 2000 would explode trying to run a game from 2013

[grim egret]

didnt know antonelli was this rich

all makes sense now

so much sense

[winged dagger]

a lot of sense

lets see how the next max will perform

[grim egret]

dont think he is even close to max level

his hype is mainly due to daddy money

who owns a junior racing team in italli called antonelli racing

[winged dagger]

yeah im being sarcastic

putting a rookie in a merc is some crazy risk

should’ve been in williams and carlos spends a season in merc

and promote him next szn instead

if he does well

[grim egret]

I never understood it, the kid has just came out of nowhere and has BIG PR team behind him without any real numbers

[winged dagger]

yeah even kimi himself said he’s not ready for F1?

[grim egret]

exaclty cause 26 is a new era

[winged dagger]

but a rookie feeling everyone would say that

[winged dagger]

not like hes leading everyone by 20s in F2 either

[grim egret]

or williams could have put him in the seat till 25 instead of colopinto

[grim egret]

and the big excuse is prema isnt a good car even though it won in silverstone and hungary

[winged dagger]

ofc prema isnt a good car 🥱

im not saying he doesnt deserve to be in F1

[grim egret]

money still means alot in motorsports

[winged dagger]

he doesnt deserve to be in a merc straight from first szn

will he even do well in the backmarkers

[grim egret]

no matter what your family will be mentioned more often than anything

[grim egret]

it could ruin his career, just like logan sargeant, he wasnt ready for f1 he was thrown in the deep end and he drowned

[winged dagger]

i think this kid has potential though

but so far i don’t see the WDC potential yet

[grim egret]

he has potential but not merc potential

[winged dagger]

like in piastri

[grim egret]

piastri personally to me is the next big thing since hamilton in terms of rookie impact

I havnt seen a rookie light up the world stage like he did

[winged dagger]

i mean i’d say rookie hamilton was still better. could compare with 2 time champion alonso at that time

but yeah piastri is one of the best rookies we’ve ever seen

[regal needle]

Piastri definitely had a Perfect Performance since his first Year in F1 Last Year

He already considered McLaren the Best Team he go with

[stiff bough]

None of the current F2 graduates that are on the grid next year lit up the runway in F2

F2 in the grand scheme of things means jack shit for a drivers capabilities

[winged dagger]

which is sad. leclerc, russell, piastri are the last ones i know if

mick was an f2 champion but we know what happenec

[regal needle]

Rookie that hasn't got Good Performance in F1 shouldn't be in F1

[stiff bough]

but how does one show they have good performance in f1 without being in f1

[regal needle]

No Clue

[fast fable]

💀

[stiff bough]

I don't really think it's sad, in fact I don't think it means anything at all. F2 is all about money and luck, lots of drivers there who've ended up going under the radar from misfortune, Victor Martins for example.

[regal needle]

Never heard about Victor Martins almost to this Month

[pseudo quail]

Not really nowhere. He’s been in Merc for a few years and Lewis leaving Merc or f1 was discussed a lot after 2021 and merc’s lack of performance recently. They’ve also said they regretted not signing Verstappen before, so when one of their own drivers starts doing well in junior series, Lewis leaves, and the rumors spread about Antonelli being the best option, it just hypes him up on its own. Merc is just trying to ready him for f1 by skipping his F3 season. All that just makes the Pr on its own really

[stiff bough]

also has been dominant in f4 and freca before he really got into the spotlight :P

[wet sequoia]

Who besides Prema is the premium F2 team to be in?

ART is the other team to put out 3 F2 champions

It does kinda feel like unless you have the backing of a F1 team and get into a decent F2 squad you’ll languish unless you run away with the competition

[stiff bough]

Rn would be Invicta, but that's probably not gonna last long once Prema and ART get back on top of things

[grim egret]

if sauber doesnt announce bortolleto then im going to explode

what does a MF need to do to get a seat upstairs ffs

[crude flame]

without any real numbers

??

[grim egret]

all these money boys ruining the sport

[grim egret]

he is not fast

[crude flame]

what

[stiff bough]

as he is currently decimating bearman

[grim egret]

nothing to write home about

[crude flame]

okay

[grim egret]

all the promoted rookies are just money kids from f2

bortoletto will wipe the floor with kimi cleeeeaaannn in equal machine

[stiff bough]

isnt every f2 driver a money kid?

[grim egret]

not to antonlelli type of money

[crude flame]

What do you mean Antonelli type of money

😭

How is that the reference point all of a sudden

[stiff bough]

hes just like any other fully backed junior

[grim egret]

his father is hella rich

[stiff bough]

Leclerc, Russell, others of the like

[grim egret]

kimi has mega connections

I just want to understand the connection to mercedes

how did his dad and toto hook up

[stiff bough]

so teams with junior academies usually have these people called talent scouters

[crude flame]

His father is a subpar racing driver who primarily runs a Mercedes GT3

[grim egret]

he owns antonelli racing

you need serious money to own a racing team

[crude flame]

Not if you run GT3s

[unkempt wasp]

I work full time and a GT86 build is pretty fast off

What are you smoking?

[grim egret]

that doesnt mean jackshit if you not from a rich family, we all been to school and universities we all know how the world treated these rich kids, its a permanent thing, u get preferential treatment

[stiff bough]

and what about all the drivers who have become part of academies that werent rich

[crude flame]

You could get a Mercedes GT3 for just about $400,000 and run it with like four mechanics

Compared to something like an F2 car which will cost you about $700,000 and then about $5m/year on top of that if you want to run two cars

[stiff bough]

and seats go for around $2m

much more than a driver who runs a low level racing team can afford

[grim egret]

dude marco antonelli is mega rich, he is no slouch. in addition to owning a junior formula racing team he owns AKM motorsports thats money

he can afford that f2 cars without blinking

[stiff bough]

f4 cars cost about $60k per 😭

[crude flame]

Do you have proof or are you just assuming he is "mega rich" based on him running an average racing team in Italy and Kimi somehow being a paydriver

[stiff bough]

and at least according to the F4 US series, cost to do a full season is at maximum 200k

[grim egret]

he is rich end of

[stiff bough]

hes rich cuz i said so

lol

[grim egret]

google says his networth is around 18m, he has a winery called cassele satriano,

winery is not chump change i tell you that

owns two racing teams and a winery? thats money come on

[stiff bough]

back when Ralf Schumacher was going through the ranks, it cost his family roughly 15m to get him into F1, and that cost has only gone up over the years. Kimi's dad would have to liquidate all of his assets just to barely do it comfortably if we stay true to the numbers Ralf mentioned

[grim egret]

is this argument about IF marco IS rich or not OR that marco IS rich but not stroll rich?

[stiff bough]

rich is used relatively when it comes to racing or any other high cost venture

[grim egret]

so is this argument about the relative wealth of marco in the context of motorsport

I dont think its of any question at all, if you are in motorsport you are relativly wealthy.

motorsport is a richmans past time.

[regal needle]

Mattia Binotto says Audi Engine will be Worst than Rivals

Expect that maybe will Happen

[pseudo quail]

Merc is convinced and that’s all that matters for Kimi’s seat

[grim egret]

well the stop watch doesnt lie, merc is a upper midfield team lets see how they will fair next year with 2 rookies in the seats

[pseudo quail]

George?

Not a rookie anymore

Merc doesn’t really have better options either. They have someone they believe can develop very well to Verstappen levels or they can just take someone like Sainz or others that don’t really have much more potential to show.

[crude flame]

It has been known for ages that the Audi engine will not be very good so

[regal needle]

They use Castrol

[pseudo quail]

Atleast redbull will give them some potential competition for worst engine

[stiff bough]

Yes, I had thought that was a given since no average joe is gonna be able to do even cheapo club racing

[stiff bough]

though they do target 2028 for race winning capabilities

[cyan saffron]

Well, then they're delusional.

Which I'm absolutely not surprised about.

[regal needle]

If they can Score Points, What can Audi do if they Underperforming?

[pseudo quail]

Better to have the target than just say they can’t possibly do it and not even try?

[cyan saffron]

Well, you can try without setting the target too high.

Trying has nothing to do with what goal you spread to the public.

[pseudo quail]

It’s upto them anyway

They’ve hired good engineers

They do have some chance

Why would they even join f1 then say they’re going to be content with midfield performance for the first few years. That’s just bad for the brand image and their reputation in Motorsport

[cyan saffron]

Meanwhile Aston is literally hated for exactly that reason, yapping about way too high goals.

[oblique elk]

net worth of 18.2 million estimated

[crude flame]

Yes but says who

[snow swan]

im g

Bro i miss Kimi

[small steppe]

bwoah

[hexed zephyr]

bwoah

[queen orbit]

aww

also how is the price difference between each formula so huge

like ik the cost of f1 cars are insane but i wld expect it to be cheaper and the bulk of the price coming from travel expenses

[rapid horizon]

so much technological stuff in the car

[low orbit]

Kimi was one of my favourites I remember his win in 2018

[queen orbit]

yeag

[wary forge]

https://v12rs.com/collections/headwear/products/scuderia-ferrari-f1-team-unisex-special-edition-miami-lazor-blue-hat

Redistribution of it yall get it while you can

[oblique elk]

the amount of engineering that goes into each one goes up significantly per tier

an f2 car is a very very serious racecar

[queen orbit]

yeah

even tho compared to f1 it looks abit (idk how to describe)

[oblique elk]

well, any open wheel feeder series will look a bit lacklustre compared to f1

[queen orbit]

yep

how do f4s look like

[oblique elk]

new ones have halos too but otherwise basically the same

[queen orbit]

oh that looks clean

[drifting sapphire]

S🅱️ INOTTO

[raw plaza]

if max stays in the sport as long as hamilton and makes good career decision i 100% believe he can break every record but unfortunately he wants to retire before 2030

[queen orbit]

if rb dont die

[raw plaza]

hamilton had only 1 title in his age i get it max was in the car 7 years at 27 while hamilton for 4 but doesnt change anything only thing is hamilton gained experience through f3 and f2 while max got into f1 right after f3

[queen orbit]

max is probably a stronger rookie altho hamilton had a trash car after 2008

at least when u consider verstappen 2023

[stiff bough]

only 2009 I'd call a trash car

[queen orbit]

2011 as well

mcl only got decent in the second half of 2009

[raw plaza]

but if he stays in the sport i can see max having the potential to match the 7 titles too

[queen orbit]

first half was 💀

[stiff bough]

But 2011 was more down to Lewis being horrific than the car

[raw plaza]

if he makes proper moves to a team unlike alonso 😭

[queen orbit]

yeah

[raw plaza]

man if alonso made proper decision at the right time 🙏

[queen orbit]

he got minimum 2 wins a season every year except 2013

[raw plaza]

max used to get some wins in the merc domination era too

[queen orbit]

yeah

[raw plaza]

i think he had 10 wins b4 2021

and ppl say max can only win if the car is good

[queen orbit]

wheareas hamilton didnt get a single one from 2022-4

silverstone

[raw plaza]

back then the cars where not as reliable as it is now

[queen orbit]

in 2021 he won the champ with a slower car

[raw plaza]

so if hamilton or any merc failed it was an oppurtunity for other drivers to win

rn we barely see any top team car dnf much

[stiff bough]

Mostly due to the engines being frozen except for reliability upgrades.

[raw plaza]

i think if max dnf once championship back on

this season

[stiff bough]

Yeah, that Red Bull had a few occasions where it just dusted Mercedes

Especially around Austria and Mexico

[raw plaza]

do u think max will not win even one race this season

[remote knoll]

at least 1

[stiff bough]

hes already won 7 :P

[remote knoll]

he has to

for me

[raw plaza]

max is very good at those track

unfortunate for checo max is very good at that track'

💀

[stiff bough]

and checo is not super good at mexico

holds his weight

[remote knoll]

was 2017 mexico max's second win

[undone bane]

probably will win mexico

[raw plaza]

if max wins atleast 2 and norris in below p2 id say championship fight over

[stiff bough]

malaysia

[remote knoll]

oh

[stiff bough]

mexico was his third

[raw plaza]

if the car is fucked no

[undone bane]

if the upgrades work yes

[raw plaza]

max and lewis drives with no mistake did u see norris mistake last race 😭 almost cost him

[stiff bough]

i think i recall max spinning while leading the race in hungary awhile back

[remote knoll]

yea

2022

did a 360

also in Hockenheim 2019

[raw plaza]

hes a master at spinning and gaining control of it again

💀

[remote knoll]

Silverstone practice that same year

or quali?

[raw plaza]

ive noticed that since 2018 hes matured and can control the car better

[stiff bough]

im sure if I felt petty enough I'd give a list of mid race mistakes that Max and Lewis have made while leading but im not bothered enough

[raw plaza]

even i want max to win atleast 1 more race this season

just give me 1

😭

[stiff bough]

Singapore is one of the more understandable ones, it's absolutely brutal on you

[raw plaza]

well yea true

[remote knoll]

Baku 2021 💀

[stiff bough]

In 2022 Leclerc eventually fell away from Perez because he had too little strength and focus to keep the pace up

in Singapore

[raw plaza]

lec has potential for wdc

but he has to be consistent

its like ferrari and him love bringing hope to the fans one race than shattering it the next

💀

[oblique elk]

i stand by my statement that if all the cars were equal, leclerc would be the fastest over a lap

[raw plaza]

one lap pace lec is always fast

😭

no one is denying that

[remote knoll]

I mean this is common knowledge, no?

[stiff bough]

nah hed be slowest

[raw plaza]

if he retires imo without winning a wdc he will still be known as one of the fastest qualifiers

[oblique elk]

well yeah but people will always argue

[raw plaza]

ferrari cant keep him forever and at one point if he doesnt win/ferrari dont bring in the results u need to wonder if u need to commit to this team again even tho its ferrari

[remote knoll]

Idk Leclerc is pretty glued to Ferrari

it's in his coding

[raw plaza]

yea but like how many years will ferrari give him ?they will eventually look at younger drivers

[oblique elk]

ive noticed that with a lot of this sort of generation of drivers

[raw plaza]

i doubt he will be in ferrari beyond 2030 imo

[oblique elk]

verstappen, russell, norris, leclerc

obviously not piastri

[raw plaza]

norris didnt want to be teamates with ver

or else the red bull seat would probably be his'

[split bane]

But if Leclerc signed a multiple year contract with Ferrari is also because the team, and Leclerc also, knows that in these years the wdc is possible

[raw plaza]

every year its possible ferrari always pulls the plug on our hope every year 😭

2022

[split bane]

they said 2025 could be the year

[raw plaza]

with all the cars being so close?

2025 going to be a banger

especially coz red bull 2025 development is in the trash

💀

[oblique elk]

its worse in wec

[raw plaza]

they pulled all stops on their 2025 car to fix this years car

[oblique elk]

mid season
win le mans
back to mid

[raw plaza]

le mans was good no?

[oblique elk]

thats all they seem to be able to win

[remote knoll]

didnt they win cota

[raw plaza]

ferrari always turns up for imp races monza monaco 😭

[oblique elk]

only win outside of le mans

but my god it's gorgeous

[split bane]

from formula1.it italy: "Leclerc confident: «In 2025 we will be able to aim for the title. Hamilton has no weaknesses"

[remote knoll]

wouldve had imola but they are idiots

[remote knoll]

most beautiful racering car

[oblique elk]

imagine a roofless one of these, like the old 333sp

[winged dagger]

will prob retire by 2030 tbh

[raw plaza]

lec?

nah hes not max saying i will retire

[winged dagger]

don’t think he’s too focused on a long-term career

[oblique elk]

he wont leave until he wins at least one wdc

[remote knoll]

not sure how good that'd look tbh

[wary forge]

2025 will be Ferrari vs Aston lets see that shit

AKA Alonso carrying aston

[raw plaza]

every year every top driver is confident 😭 lets just wait and see .i was talking about circumstance if he doesnt win a wdc or ferrari dont win a wcc until 2026-28 will they keep him or not is what im wondering

will they keep him or look at younger talent

[split bane]

for now there's no probable young drivers that will replace Leclerc, there's Bearman but i see him replacing Hamilton

[oblique elk]

bearman-leclerc will be a stacked lineup

im genuinely really looking forward to seeing bearman in a permanent seat

[raw plaza]

im not saying now like in 4 to 6 years

how long is his contract rn

?

[remote knoll]

Idk about Bearman vs Leclerc

[raw plaza]

bearman has shown good pace

[remote knoll]

I like Bearman but I think Leclerc is faster

[raw plaza]

give bearman time

😭

[oblique elk]

leclerc is faster but bearman has big potential

[stiff bough]

til 2028

[oblique elk]

he'll have time to develop before going to ferrari

[remote knoll]

I'm not saying Bearman is bad

[split bane]

there probably will be someone, i was saying about Ferrari driver academy pilots

[remote knoll]

I know he is good

i'm saying I don't think he'll be on Leclerc's level

[raw plaza]

yea not next season

maybe by 2028

[stiff bough]

not... ever actually

[remote knoll]

yea..

[oblique elk]

very true

[raw plaza]

one lap pace i doubt we'll see anyone as good as lec

i doubt hamilton will beat lec in quali

[oblique elk]

hamilton wont outqualify leclerc

[split bane]

until 2028-2029 i think

[raw plaza]

but race is diff thing

[oblique elk]

id maybe say thats one of hamilton's weaker areas, at least recently

[raw plaza]

max and lewis are alr the goats of the past decade

🐐

[remote knoll]

Didn't Hammy say he was never great at quali

[stiff bough]

same guy who humbled vettel real quick within two races :P

[remote knoll]

I hope Bearman will be up there in pace but we'll see

Kimi Antonelli will outshine him anyway

[oblique elk]

its a shame we wont be able to compare him to antonelli that well

[stiff bough]

said that a few years ago, but good luck finding the quote now that its been completely drowned by this years comments

[oblique elk]

haas v merc just doesnt line up

[raw plaza]

did u see what james vowles say "he wont regret when we are beating the ferrari drivers"

😭

i hope i see it

[remote knoll]

James talks too much lmao

[raw plaza]

i love his debrief bro

[split bane]

in a Mercedes if he won't outshine him then there's some problems

[remote knoll]

If Bearman is getting beat by Ocon and Kimi is matching or beating Russell then we would have a good idea

[raw plaza]

if i had someone like him explain to me to jump off a cliff id do it

[remote knoll]

well

I mean how he does against his teammate

obviously he is gonna beat Bearman in the standings

[oblique elk]

yeah maybe, i just mean more head to head

[stiff bough]

hey you never know !

[raw plaza]

if max joins merc in 26 who will keep the seat george or kimi?

[remote knoll]

😭

Haas 2nd fastest in 2025

[oblique elk]

haas wcc let's see it

[winged dagger]

when do u think hamilton will retire guys

[remote knoll]

2025

[stiff bough]

Kimi, but you don't have to worry about that hypothetical since Toto has stopped chasing Max

[raw plaza]

wait if kimi wins tghe first race next season will he beat max's record to be the youngest ?

[split bane]

well, i could expect him being behind Russell in the wdc for his first year

[winged dagger]

his contract is until 2026 no with one year extension (optional)

[remote knoll]

2026

[raw plaza]

i think he said he hasnt given up on max he gonna try for 26 instead

[stiff bough]

by 24 days yes.

[winged dagger]

george won’t lose a seat after 2025….right? he isn’t 30 yet and still does better than more than half of the grid

[raw plaza]

if hamilton gets crushed by lec (which i hope doesnt happen) he will probably retire no?

[oblique elk]

george isnt going anywhere for a while

[winged dagger]

i think he’ll be crushed in quali

[stiff bough]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wolff-time-stop-flirting-verstappen-now/10660181/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=RSS-F1&utm_term=News&utm_content=www

[winged dagger]

race pace some tracks hamilton can still do better imo

[split bane]

he hasn't stopped with Max, probably Russell will be replaced with Max when that will be possible

[winged dagger]

but overall i think in the wdc next year lec will finish above ham

[oblique elk]

quali he'll get crushed, standings it'll be far more equal

[winged dagger]

but not by a lot

considering hamilton’s out of his prime

he would do well if thats the case

[raw plaza]

yea but if he gets absolutely smashed across the court by lec at one point u have to come terms to facts

lets see

next season

😸

[oblique elk]

he won't be

[raw plaza]

yes

[winged dagger]

leclerc did better than (close enough) prime vettel during his first szn in ferrari 🔥

so

[raw plaza]

prime vettel was 2011-2014

no?

[snow swan]

Prime vettel was 2011 and 2013

[raw plaza]

lec was a kid

[winged dagger]

ye when he owned his teammate. i think danny ric outscored him in 2014

[snow swan]

Will Antonelli finally break Hamilton’s record for rookie points

[oblique elk]

no

[snow swan]

He needs 109 next season

[oblique elk]

points system has changed

[snow swan]

Doesn’t matter

[oblique elk]

so if he scores 109 it wont be a proper record

[raw plaza]

when hamilton was rookie they didnt have same points system

[snow swan]

No one has yet broken it

Even with the new points system Hamilton’s 109 still stands

[lilac nova]

RACE WEEKEN....no

[raw plaza]

calculate hamilton points if points system was same as this year

[snow swan]

It’s like 250 something

Who knows though

[raw plaza]

nah he has 9 consecutive podiums in his rookie year if im not wrong

[snow swan]

Antonelli could be another senna and drag a shitbox to places it shouldn’t be

Cough monaco 1984 cough

[raw plaza]

antonelli could be another logan and crash too

[remote knoll]

Like I remember 1984

[raw plaza]

😭

[winged dagger]

yep

[snow swan]

I was born 1991

[remote knoll]

DAMN

[winged dagger]

im happy if he is another leclerc

carrying a shitbox named sauber in his first szn

[remote knoll]

👴

[winged dagger]

then outscored vettel in his first szn w ferrari

[remote knoll]

had to do it to em

[snow swan]

I was working by 1996

[remote knoll]

huh

[snow swan]

Family business

[remote knoll]

bro was making cheese at 5 years old

[winged dagger]

is the majority of the server gen z

[snow swan]

Na… blowing things up

[raw plaza]

bro learnt business instead of his A-Z's

[remote knoll]

definitely

[winged dagger]

no gen alphas right

no skibidi toilets or those kind of stuff

[snow swan]

My brain rot was shit like rickroll

[remote knoll]

nah probably some

[winged dagger]

i still dont know what fanum tax means

[remote knoll]

neither do i

[snow swan]

Don’t bother

[remote knoll]

and it's been explained to me twice

[winged dagger]

i was born 2007

more on the later side of gen z

[remote knoll]

same

[snow swan]

I feel so old

Sometimes

[winged dagger]

you are in ur 30s dunde

[remote knoll]

dunde?

[winged dagger]

dude

sorry im tired

[remote knoll]

oh 💀

[snow swan]

Yeah and the life expectancy for people in my profession is 41.

[winged dagger]

are u a sportsman

[raw plaza]

what do u do

[snow swan]

No, I work in explosive demolition

Hense the low lifespan because people blow themselves up

[remote knoll]

explosive demolition

[snow swan]

Yeah

[remote knoll]

doesnt that sound fun

[snow swan]

It isn’t

[remote knoll]

it doesnt sound fun

[snow swan]

There’s always a catch

[raw plaza]

is ur dad name mark?

[snow swan]

Yes

[raw plaza]

do u have a brother named jamie?

[remote knoll]

what kind of sportsman has the life expectancy of 41

[snow swan]

Yes

[raw plaza]

💀

[snow swan]

There’s my uncle Doug as well

[raw plaza]

bros info on the internet

whos daniel

[snow swan]

And then there’s my grandfather Jack who managed to make it to 85

[raw plaza]

damn

family business crazy

[winged dagger]

crazy family business

[raw plaza]

theres a whole family tree website

💀

idk if thats even ur family

[snow swan]

I mean his death was mentioned by the New York Times

[raw plaza]

ur dad on yt

[snow swan]

And the Washington post

[raw plaza]

damn thats cool

nice!

[snow swan]

My grandfather and father and myself are all devoted religiously.

[raw plaza]

i see

[snow swan]

We believe it’s the only reason we haven’t died in an explosion

[raw plaza]

i see i hope noone dies to an explosion 🙏

[snow swan]

We pray for safety and for no one to be hurt. Every time.

[raw plaza]

u own a casino is las vegas?

[snow swan]

No

But I do know most of the owners of casinos

[raw plaza]

ahh read it wrong

u demolished some

[snow swan]

Because we’re the only company to demolish any major Las Vegas casino

[raw plaza]

do u need license to handle explosives?

[snow swan]

The Aladdin in particular- my father told me (I was 7 at the time) that it was the most shit built structure he ever touched

[remote knoll]

you need balls of vibranium

[raw plaza]

ngl this has been one of most intresting convo ive had online 😭

[snow swan]

Yall

Did you know that IOS 18 has built in conversions now

370 kph =229.907 mi/hr

1 usd =0.91 EUR

[raw plaza]

why are u mentining conversions?

[snow swan]

You just type and it converts for you

Because interestingly during the demolition of the Aladdin

My father was able to drop the amount from 370 to 231.33

[raw plaza]

drop what ammount

[snow swan]

Which is roughly the conversion from KPH to MPH for the same numbers

Explosives weight

[raw plaza]

oh

so he used less explosives minimum cost

[snow swan]

He was able to use 5/8ths of his original plan