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Biggest robbery in f1 history ?
as much as I'm a lawson fan due to kiwi bias I wish he was able to complete this season as his farewell
will be sad to see him go from f1 entirely, because sauber will not be signing him and we know it
He was at Ferrari when they were boiled cabbage
Mekies used to be at Toro Rosso, then left to work at the FIA as safety director, then became deputy race director in 2017 and in 2018 joined Ferrari as sporting director
and then got promoted to deputy team principal in 2021 at ferrari before leaving for vcarb
And back to VCARB i guess
When Ferrari last won a championship:
Red bull had 0 wins
Max verstappen and charles leclerc were 10 years old
Lewis Hamilton only had 4 wins in f1
Kimi antonelli was 1 year old
Fernando Alonso was aged 26
Ollie bearman was 2 years old
V8 engines were still around
Mercedes wasnt on f1
Honda and Toyota were still on grid
ferrari last won a title in 2008 not 2007
mercedes was in f1
Not just as an engine supplier, they were still the factory team for mclaren
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Was redbull even in the sport in 2004?
Oh wait
Im stoopid, 2007 exists
Ig he means WDC not WCC
both
Hereās to hoping
They all follow the same rules. That is like saying HAAS is a Ferrari puppet team
I donāt see haas helping Ferrari tho
Nor do I see Williams help Mercedes
But itās fine, weāll hope Lando gets WC
Are you referring Ricciardo taking the fastest lap off of Lando at the end?
I don't see any issue with it personally
Haas also tried to take it but Kmag exceeded track limits on his lap
They were a big supporter of Sauber in the late nineties kinda like kick now but they didnāt have their own team
Hereās the Sauber C14 In Monaco 1995
Oop- embed failure
nah
pretty sure the problem is verstappen has 3 drivers supporting him for the WDC, lando just has Piastri
RBR shouldn't be allowed to have a 2nd team that can aid them
Doesn't mean it's right
A lot isn't right with the way the sport is
Same thing as McLaren's mini DRS
Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's right
Red Bull shouldn't have been allowed to own 2 F1 teams in the first place imo
Just use F2 for aspiring talent like other teams
I mean Ferrari has/had implicit control of seats at Sauber and Haas for years
Partnerships between teams just aren't the same thing imo, Haas chose Bearman because they saw his talent not just because Ferrari wanted to hand him to them
vcarb is essentially a puppet team
how did Alex even dnf
car issues
they were allowed to because they saved hundreds of jobs and people's livelihoods
i need to stop going to sleep while races are on
I don't personally see the problem as teams aren't allowed to have cross-communication with one another and they do not share car info with one another either.
the only person ive seen having a problem with it zak brown, which go figure, he bitches about everything thats not in his favor. I haven't seen any other teams complaining though
brake temp issue I think ?
ohh Ty
Best race last year, almost worst this year š
Las Vegas was the best race last year
i guarantee he would have been 10x more mad if say ferrari or redbull used the flexi rear wing but whatever
yeah las vegas was extremely entertaining
fr bruh
only race so far that iāve been completely locked into since watching f1 in april of 2023
i was hoping that leclerc would win. he didnāt. it felt like another leclerc fumble to me so i donāt remember it well
mf yeah someone needs to restructure vcarb
itās a shithole rn
the only race that has been great for me to watch in a long long time was monza 2024 if iām being honest
Honestly, wec is just better
much better racing and cheaper prices
any time leclerc loses a win i count a fumble
someone like alonso would have won in the ferrari
I watched Fuji then I come back and watch Singapore and I want to fall asleep
singapore was a massive snoozer
Fuji was
No
frustrating
f1 or wec
i js kinda got excited watching the gap between leclerc and russel unfortunately he didnāt get the pass
Isnāt f1 Suzuka mb
buddy f1 hasnt been in fuji for 17 years
mb
yea š
prime alonso
Max is goat
mate i donāt think you know prime alonso
prime alonso vs prime max
prime Alonso wasnāt as good as prime max if Iām being truly honest
Alonso made some really shit career choices
Goat means it doesnāt matter since he is the greatest of āall timeā
prime alonso almost dragged a tractor to a wdc
The 2012 ferrari was at worst the 4th best car
4th best fighting for a wdc is arguably a tractor
And that was like at the start of the season
Gradually it improved and became roughly the 3rd 2nd best
Is lando still able to win the dc
yeah
real chance he does
god i would actually be so mad if lando wins the wdc by just being given the fastest most dominant car of the season before leclerc
just his luck
Danny Ric leaving F1 rumors after lando makes a 22 second gap
uh no itās not confirmed but itās seemingly more and more true
He's also just good at driving
Didnāt prime Alonso get slapped around by vettel? Only for vettel to get slapped around my riccardo who was then slapped around by max, lando and yuki?
He fended off the rb19 at Silverstone
There are layers of context to that
I can explain if you want
it doesnāt work like that really
kanzai can explain
Iām just sayingā¦. If you look at the evidenceā¦.
So you just called Alonso worse than Yuki š„¶
By evidence you mean race results?
this is brainrot
because just looking at those will never tell you the full context really
Imagine if he stayed at mclaren
As much as I donāt like the fossil I let him slide on yuki since riccardo was damaged goods by then
I can say Ronnie Peterson was just another driver back in the 70s, when in reality he could've been a 2 time champion (argubly three if you push it)
prime max was basically unbeatable lets face it
Bro would be dominating more than Lando rn
No that'd be worse
that would be terrible
absolutely terrible
For you guys
He'd have better cars by 2019 but Alonso back then just wanted more than simple points
no for alonso it would have been terrible
I would be ascending
I can't see Ricciardo dominating if he had the 2024 MCL
i genuinely think if he stayed another year at mclaren he was gonna drop 20 years off his lifespan
He was already wanting to throw himself off a plane by 2018
and that car was way better than McLaren ever was at that point
The 2019 mclaren was a bit better than the year before
Yeah, but ask Alonso to bring a crystal ball or some shit
i know that
because like hell if he knew that
I need a time machine
alonso was sick and tired of it
i think if he stayed he would have permanently retired by 22
He had contracts with Red Bull back in 2007 or 2008
but how was he supposed to know that team that barely existed would have become good?
Alonso was expecting Mclaren to give him another 2007 worthy car to compete for the wdc, not for them to give him cars that are stuck in the midfield
Tell Alonso: don't leave mclaren, the 2024 car is going to be the best
Is this end of season rookie sprint race real?
he aināt waiting allat
He's waiting for newey
Yeah it sounds easy but
Waiting 6 years for one year were the car is good
And he wouldn't even believe you because by 2022 that car was not good at all
The 2021 mclaren was really good though
Yeah, for podiums
keep in mind, that's not what Alonso wants anymore
He clearly wants to win another race one last time and that's it
Alonso dosent have the patience to wait that long 
WDC is optional but in reality dude doesn't have the level for that anymore
Dude endured 3 years of gp2 Honda engines
2018 was better but still pretty mediocre by Alonsos standards
Fuck it, I'm bringing him with me with the time machine and i will convince zak brown to replace lando with him
And even 2016 wasn't a bad car
Yeah, he was clearly done with F1
He needed a break asap
Alonso knows what Mclaren are capable of, considering he raced with them in 2007, he wasnt there to be backmarkers or midfield
What about, max Verstappen in mclaren
I mean I don't agree there
It's not impossible, if Red Bull get worse and if lando doesn't deliver what's expected of him
McLaren in that era was everything but good
They weren't capable of a 2009 season anymore
Max to Mercedes is more likely than him going to Mclaren
Mclaren aint gonna let Lando or Piastri go
That entire team was viewed as a joke, people only started liking McLaren in 2019
I mean yeah
While I don't think.mclaren will want to I can see lando going to red bull if max goes to amr. It would be wild if we get lando and Russell at rbr in 2026
But Alonso was expecting Mclaren when he rejoined in 2015 to at least give a wdc contending car, they failed to do that
Enjoy the faster pit stop ever from Mclaren's crew!
Look at the comment sections dude
Nobody could be bothered to like McLaren at that time
Yo your My Team career is wild
Because McLaren + Honda
So the old era bait worked
What a disaster
It is but... ot does sound interesting
If im not wrong Mclaren gave Honda some size zero concept
Idk how they didn't saw it coming that an engine manufacturer that hasn't worked in F1 engines in decades would just suddenly do good or whatever
Like audi?
Ye
They were trying to convience themselfs that it wasn't a bad idea
they did a Mercedes 2022 before they made it cool
Right and last year everyone was super high on them like they were going to be competing for championships
There'd always be those kind of people
hyping shit for no reason
Well, their reason is since they are in WEC they have some knowlege obviously but that's still a dumb way to hype them
Itās better than people tearing shit down for no reason although I do not want more teams
what year
2018
we've got norris super lando norris
just dont think you understand]
he drives in black and orange
hes fucking dynamite
we've got super lando norris
29 second gap was insane
Lando and Max swapped roles for this year
Genuinely
Margins after Japan last year really closed up for max
COTA especially Ham got to within 1.5 seconds on final lap
COTA is where we first saw max have issues with the car especially the braking
The next race after COTA Max won by 13 seconds, 8 seconds, 7* seconds (2 seconds on the road but lost 5 seconds to a penalty earlier on), and then 18 seconds in Abu Dhabi
What is COTA š
Lando dominating that race is making me wonder when and if i will ever see leclerc dominating a race like that š«
you know as long as F1 stays till the day i get to 120 years old I will feel amazing on sundays
this race wasn't terrible actually pretty good in fact SPLENDID
Canāt watch it on sundays no more since I got a part time job š
it was actually kinda boring but mclarens got that spaceship
Got the job right before verstappen started losing
I would be heartbroken š
aw you watching it on tv?
now f1tv?
the thing is I canāt watch it at work lol
No I use illegal services š“āā ļø
criminal
š
anyway I'm gone like Alex albon š¢ I need my sleep
have a good one y'all F1 makes you dream of strapping a ramjet engine on your Miata
that's getting trademarked by me lol I like that one
He was finally cut?
no I was talking about in the race
Circuit of the Americas the name of the track in Austin
Damn.... you got me excited
Oh right
no cuz i dont own a miata
the worst part is not even that ricciardo lost his drive
but the fact that VCARB's own team principal has no fucking clue whats going on
Hey Gucci, why is slowmode still on?
So basically Jolyon Palmer in 2017 
like wdym this may be his last race, mekies??? š
Dude found out he was getting replaced via the media or something 
Bur at least he had a few races still with Renault after it was announced Sainz was replacing him
no kidding
Because Mekies is not the TP of that team clearly, has got a Horner sized hand up him pulling the strings
team principal with none of the responsibility
personally, as long as the rules are being followed I don't care
They can use RB to effect the standings how they wish
Itās really not fair on the competition
not really I don't think
I mean, you can't hold up the car lapping you otherwise you get a penalty, and you can't have cross communication between teams
Haas has quite a close partnership with Ferrari also
As far as I know they are fine with that
Maybe it irked a few teams at first
i feel like its just mclaren trying to cause a stir more than anything, if they had a problem with it they'd just report it to the FIA and FOM to be looked at and then wait and see what happens
I don't think any other team has complained about it, have they?
Vcarb and Redbull been in f1 since like 2005? So nearly 20 years
A few have at the start of the year
I know McLaren have been vocal about it for the last couple years
When it was announced the junior team would be alot closer to Milton Keynes
Idk why complain now when you had two decades to do it
There wasnt any massive protest from a lot of the teams as to why Redbull own 2 teams if Im not wrong
Yeah, they share part of their factory with VCARB and the team uses different entrances and exits to RBR
Issues were raised this year when a lot of parts and tech would have coming down from Red Bull
Same arrangement as Haas and Ferrari
Yes but Haas arenāt owned by Ferrari directly
Now yes some teams were irked by the Haas Ferrari partnership, but it wasnt any major protest
But as long as rules are being followed, I don't think the common ownership is a problem
The issue now is two teams under one roof both physically and management wise
Yes and does it break any rules?
if parts get passed down and someone on the grid complains, and the FIA have to investigate, VCARB will still have to prove the part they have on their car is their own design and they have to give receipts
NOONE TAKES ME SERIOUSLY, I TOLD Y'ALL THAT MCLAREN WILL WIN THIS!!
Directly no, but considering the history have that Red Bull have with breaking rulesā¦
And how seedy the last lap was
Red Bull should really be forced to sell that other team sometime soon
Haas literally also let K Mag go for the fastest lap also, was it seedy too?
I predicted it here
Haas arenāt owned by Ferrari, theyāre also NOT in a championship battle
By that logic I can say that Haas purposely sent K Mag for fastest lap attempt to steal a point off Lando to help Ferrari in the constructors 
So what happens if Red Bull sell the team, but the person they sell the team to has a contract with red bull that gives them x amount of control over so and so. Or if the attempt in making them sell the team makes Red Bull play the political game and threaten to leave
Only organisation looking to buy in is GM with Andretti
No other sport allows one parent company to own multiple teams in a single grade 1 sport
But like I said, the other 7 teams besides Mclaren are not massively irked by Redbull and their sister team Vcarb
no other motorsport has had one company buy two teams I don't think
They been in the sport for nearly 2 decades now
All the teams were vocal about it at the start of the year with the RB changes moving to Milton Keynes, Zac has just been the most vocal
Shit, Penske owns IndyCar and they have their own team with Aj Foyt as a strategic partner
If all the other teams were massively unhappy about it, there would had been multiple protests over the years but there wasnt
Before they were clearly seperate
Now theyāre way to close to the point they can easily swap tech
All the vocals issues were raised at the start of this year
WITH THE CHANGES MOVING TO MILTON KEYNES!!!
Not over the past 2 decades
The team is still largely based in Faenza, it's the same arrangement as Haas and Ferrari where they have a hub in the same factory. The only problem I'm seeing here is a common owner, but there is also nothing stopping Ferrari from transferring tech or part data to Haas to boost them
And are they breaking any rules doing that?
Sigh
Exactly
If they arent breaking any rules, I dont see the issue
back to work
You are just making assumptions, like pointing out how allegedly "seedy" the Danny Ric fastest lap attempt was
Its plain assumptions, hell I would even say its a conspiracy theory
So what if Im a Redbull fan?
By that logic, I can say that you, as a Mclaren fan would obviously be unhappy that Danny Ric stole the fastest lap point off Lando 
hiya guys
I would rather take Mekies words over your alleged "seedy" fastest lap attempt claim
colapinto is pretty good
yep
he defended against perez and sainz
perez called him good
also what a divebomb in the opening lap
would be a pity if he doesnt get a seat
bc he shows that he isnāt significantly weaker than albon
Guys is Danny really retiring?
most likely
its sad but.... it is what it is
Some people just dont realize that many teams have relationships like that lol. Look at the racing point in 2020 or how you pointed out the haas ferrari relationship
Rain is falling
Like
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TU TU TU DU
MAX VERSTAPPEN ā¼ļøā¼ļø
TU TU TU DU
MAX VERSTAPPEN ā¼ļøā¼ļø
I still donāt believe the post race interview
Why so soon
me neither stand strong āØšŖš½
(i am very delulu)
Iām really living up to my profile pic eh
maybe

hello
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They've used it twice š
4 weeks to wait now
yipee
DRS Jerez Skibidi Perez
What font is that?
It's probably Formula One Font
Guys
How to become an F1 driver
I have been doing Go-karting for almost 2 years now and I am pretty good at it
what are your thoughts of DRs Fastest lap and DoTD
I am 16
I am, I have been on the podum in local championships
How then did Kimi made it
several times
thats good
really??
yea
you'll need to get money and sponsors
Kimi was really poor
damn
Even ocon's parents sold their house and their shit to help and they trusted Ocons procces
And look at them
Even then, Ocon got in by blind luck lmao
nope
damn
but aight
@stiff bough does Riccy have now 13 pts?
Maybe I'll go pro someday
Yes, it just happened to work out when Haryanto did not get money to continue the rest of the year
Like realistically, unless that happened Ocon would've probably never gotten to the grid, and Wehrlein would still be around or at least around longer than he was
no, fastest lap point only goes to those eligible (top 10)
We'll be seeing maybe not just Eminem there
We still haven't got our Driver Signing Announcement yet and either several Circuit Contract Renewal
I'm expecting Monza to renewed their Contract
Ok ok,
Step 1: Get pro at karting (win championships)
Step 2: move to europe and secure a financial backing from companies cuz u will need it.
Step 3: enter regional championships
Step 4: Try join a f3 if you are successful
Step 5: If you survive f3 go to f2
Step 6: Impress the f1 team you are under (junior program)
Step 7: Pray you get a spot in f1
but remember that out of a million, only one will prob get a chance to race in f1
Step 0: have millions of dollars
true true
Ye

backup plan: beg lawrence stroll to adopt you
or be Stroll and daddy buys teams lol
lol
Step -1: Make sure you are smart enough to understand F1 technical stuff
CANT believe there are people still deffending the ricciardo
im not really defending him but he is a G
fr
Was a G
also the strategy was shit
its just a sad situation
FR
soft med soft
thats F1
omg really no way i thought it was nascar
supposed to do the zhou strat, pitlane hard-hard-hard-inters
finished on pair with mercedes raahhh starting from p9-10
no no no its wets-wets-wets-wets
and start when your 5
yeah and have a mentor like coulthard or smh
becoz hes getting a shitty farewell
what did he expect? a red carpet?
wasted renault and mclaren and Vcarbs time
true
not renault, and definately not mclaren in '21
Yeah, because he deservees to have a proper exit
if daniel wasnt the sociable big smile bubbly guy and was more reserved like zhou he would have been gone
they did not even announce he was leaving š
renault was built for him with a mega salary gave them dust and rocks in return
Right, because zhou is an 8x winner
he did well in renault bro idk what your on about
daniel was just around because of a horner favour
yeah its such bullshit
he is a pole sitter and a multiple GP winner, and was in two top teams he should be doing what albon has been doing to teamates instead he cant even reach be in the points much less q3
he is so done
can't say much yet tho
2 podiums 2 fastest laps in 2 years? come on
and a win, when the car was ass
Renault was like in the midfield, what do you expect 
soooo he dragged a midfielder into a podium, thats pretty damn good
And Albon after Redbull had Latifi and Logan as teammates, they are nowhere near the levels of Lando or Yuki
Sainz is going to make or break him
atleast score consistent points thats what midfielders do
Yes Danny Ric sucked in Mclaren, but comparing him to what Albon is doing is not even fair 
he was ass in 22, he wasnt that bad in 21 tbh
Now Albon is alr getting matched by Colapinto
ah yes, I love it when my classic haas midfielder team scores points consistantly (they score like once every 5 years)
In 2020, Danny scored in all but 2 of the races he finished
holy shit thats consistant lol
So there you go, he scored consistent points
21 was fine, he got a win and didnt wreck any gear, just needed another year in the car... then the rules changed and he showed he needed the right car to be 2014 danny ric
2nd season at renault he was doing well
DANNY TO INDY CAR WOULD BE PERFECT.
and guess what he did next he ran away again
what?
should have stayed at alpine
Had Danny stayed, Cyril might had stayed too
but it was not right when he decided to leave REDBULL.
And I think Alpine wouldnt be that shit as they are now
yeah but I get why he did it
he didnt leave he ran away
the only guy to beat max in equal machinery 
Lmao why are you trying to hard to paint some narrative where hes a coward? He didnt run away
.
well kind ofc 2018 standings max is ahead like 40-50 points.
By that logic, Seb didnt leave Redbull after 2014, he ran away 
yeah exactly.
danny ric ran away from max end OF!
dude I cant believe Hamilton is running away from merc
he gave up a fight for a bigger pay in a lesser team
Daniel beat max in 2017 and wouldve in 18 if not for the mechanical errors
also
"END OF!" lmao that made my day
but we all gotta agree, danny is just nowhere close to his former glory, i think he should just stay out now, also he is 35 dude.
Earlier we had this convo, Danny did also mention he was frustrated that Ferrari or Merc didnt want him
yeah but this was a bullshit farewell
shoudlve been at abu dhabi
tbh at the end of '21
Yeah, think it of the other way.. if danny goes out now then lawson would get a month to prepare for the next grand prix.
I dont give 2 shits about lawson lol, sign him for next year, he gets 3 whole months to prepare for the next grand prix
well they didnt confirmed it yet, maybe 2025 rb fires of checo, lawson to redbull and danny returns back to vcarb.
nah if they fire checo, itll be danny to RBR
it wont be lawson, hes too much of a rookie
nah aint happening.
be realistic.
exactly, checo aint goin nowhere
between riccardo and lawson, they will pick riccardo
bro danny would not be promoted to rb main team, lawson would.
Redbull would know from Gasly and Albon that promoting a new driver to their main team aint gonna work 
...
remember gasley and albon? didnt end too well for them
they wont promote a rookie
i mean yeah.
at least a few years of experience
Yuki has a higher chance at getting that Redbull seat than Lawson currently
and RBR hates yuki lol
danny waas the only one who almost matched max's race pace.
didnt almost, he matched him
and beat him
Danny did acknowledge that going back to Redbull isnt gonna be a thing now
yeah, altho I cant udnerstand why RBR isnt making an announcement
like for fucks sake
what a shitty way to go out
at least logan had an announcement
I mean when Kvyat left Alphatauri they had little to no announcement or farewell post about him either 
Its a very confusing situation now
Not even Mekies himself is completely sure Danny is gone from f1 for good
And then the entire media and press making it seem that hes actually done for good
But still no official announcement
but one thing is for sure, danny is a positive guy. i watched his post race interview he was cracking jokes. a lot to learn from him. Also most of the drivers who come to f1 dosent even manage to get a win, danny did and managed to get 8 of them.
na he is done with motorsport at his age he is definetly a has been
he removed everything motorsport from his insta
i dont know about nascar and how it works
but yeah for social media following and clout but not racewins
like a mascot driver
Raikkonen did 1 race for Nascar if im not wrong after 2021
K Mag did Indy in 2021?
For 1 race also
I remember him reuniting with Grosjean
not sure abt that, but yeah kmag did race in indy car.
imagine Danny ric returns again after 2 or 3 years again.
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Eh, nah
Hes not Alonso
I dont even think Seb is gonna come back either
There are tons of feeder series drivers waiting for their chance at f1 also
Theres like Lindblad, Hadjar, Bortoleto, Mini etc
Max Verstappen is now guaranteed the title if he finishes second to Norris in every remaining Grand Prix and sprint, regardless of the fastest lap bonuses.
This is because Daniel Ricciardo set the fastest lap in the Singapore Grand Prix.
well who thought that he would return with mcl in 2021?
You mean Alpine?
He's talking about Danny
.
Including sprint races, if Max finishes p2 in all of them he wins by a point
nah, danny
max aint winning all races p2.
neither do lando would manage to win all of the races.
Can someone calculate how many more points Norris needs to score over Max per race? Is it 9 points or
Basically he has to hold P1 and Pastryboy has to hold P2
Imagine FIA decided to spice things up like they did 2014 with double points in last race abu dhabi.
pastry boy what.
Oscar
this could be a possibility aint it?
Ok so double points in abu dhabi includes or excludes fastest lap?
Like if you finish p1 + fl are you getting 52 or 51
lemme do some maths wait.
If it is double points in Abu Dhabi
Norris will win if he gets P1 all races and sprints + fastest lap
Even if Max stays in P2
But Max can win if he stays P2 and gets all fastest laps instead
The only way I see double points happening is if Max solidifies his WDC in Qatar
Meaning if the gap between Max and Norris is greater than 26 points
If they double points it up for a gap less than 26 points it will be unfair to Max
Current Points:
Max: 331 points
Lando: 279 points
Point Gap: 52 points
Race Outcomes with Lando's Teammate Securing 2nd Place:
Assuming Max's Performance:
If Lando Wins All 6 Races:
Points for Lando:
6
Ć
25
150
6Ć25=150
Total for Lando:
279
+
150
429
279+150=429
Max's Points:
If Max finishes 3rd in all races:
Points for Max:
6
Ć
15
90
6Ć15=90
Total for Max:
331
+
90
421
331+90=421
In this scenario:
Lando: 429 points
Max: 421 points
Lando wins by 8 points.
If Max Secures Different Positions:
If Max Secures 2nd Place in All Races:
Points for Max:
6
Ć
18
108
6Ć18=108
Total for Max:
331
+
108
439
331+108=439
In this scenario:
Lando: 429 points
Max: 439 points
Max wins by 10 points.
Summary of Scenarios:
If Lando wins all 6 races and Max finishes 3rd in all, Lando would win.
If Lando wins all 6 races and Max finishes 2nd in all, Max would still take the championship.
Conclusion:
For Lando to win the championship, he needs to win all the races while Max needs to finish in lower positions. If Lando wins every race and his teammate consistently secures 2nd, he has a strong chance to win, but it largely depends on Max's performance. If Max finishes consistently in 2nd, Lando will need to win and have Max finish lower than that.
mr yapperton
Remember Red Bull have upgrades for COTA as well
If Max wins youād be fairly certain heāll keep WDC
atp upgrades do nothing
Depends on where you stand
For Red Bull it might solve their balance problems and their front nose issues
For teams like Ferrari and McLaren you might get a tenth per lap
For Aston they might have an early 2023 car again
For Sauber they might get a fucking point 
Nevertheless upgrades can have benefits depending where itās focused, even this late in the year
according to my calculation lando to have a chance need to finsih p1 in all races, which aint hapenning.
Lando Winning:
Winning All + Max Crashing: High probability (e.g., 60%).
Winning All + Max Finishing 2nd: Lower probability (e.g., 30%).
Mixed scenarios with crashes: Varies, but letās say around 20%.
Max Winning:
If Lando wins and Max finishes lower, his chance reduces significantly.
If Max consistently finishes 2nd: High probability (e.g., 70%).
Conclusion (Estimated Percentages)
Lando's Chance to Win: ~40% overall (considering crashes, wins, and Maxās placements).
Max's Chance to Win: ~60% overall.
so yeah max would secure wdc no doubt.
chat gpt for the win.
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Capstix aiming for 88
LMAO
,,,
Max dnfs are damn near impossible unless RedBull mess up the balance/heating
see i have taken in account all the possibilities of max and lando crashing then to realistically there aint a chance lando would win.
until pastry boy get team orders to crash into max's car/
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Thanks man
More likely is Piastri, the Ferraris and Mercs holding up Max so he stays out of the podium
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all we need is lando dnf one race and hes prob out of contention
i think
Nah
If we consider worst case scenario: Max dnfs all races and sprints
Lando would also have to dnf many races to lose
52*
my bad
one DNF is enough to turn this WDC upside down
tbh i think the wdc is max's
that's how its looking like for now
unless lando can keep continuing what he did at singapore and zandvoort
he probably can't do that every race weekend but he just needs to capitalise when max is down
not rlly singapore
he only gained 7 points
that aint enough
Max put way too good of a performance in before summer break to lose imo
yeah im just saying he should do the maximum possible, which he did in singapore
not his fault max decided to pull the tractor to p2
See y'all in 26 days I guess 
how many perez's
so everyone out in q1 then?
no checlerc gets pole by 8 tenth and crashes in lap 38
Lap 71*
He couldnt destroy our hoped that easy
Max Perezstappen, Lewis Permilton, Charles Perclerc, George Persull, Lance Stroll, Pierre Perezly
lance stroll is just lance stroll lmao
Expected Merc to do better š¦
Istg if I donāt see Danny next race. š
yeah š
i will probably cry if he's not there
Same.
Like Danny was the entire reason I started liking F1. Cause at the time he was the only Aussie on the grid.
so you mean they'll change the F1 intro too? š
if danny leaves, yeah
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Now we got 4
nah, he would still be there in the standings even he is not on the grid.
He truly gave us a generation of aussie domination
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Yeah but they changed the intro for baku with ollie so they prib will
logan sargeant isnt in the intro anymore
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dont loose hope, see the thing is if redbull fires of checo perez in 2025, redbull would not promote any young driver in their team as they learnt lessons by promoting albon, piere they cleary know nothing would work alongside max. So danny ric can probably be promoted to the rb seat.
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i kind of like checo but i love daniel more, so im hoping
Yeah⦠Thats the thing weāve been counting on Perezās downfall but he⦠Well sells lots of shirts. š
what the sigma
idk. i wish it didnt have to happen
danny is the funniest dude on track imo
Guys is Daniel actually leaving šš
Um 75%. Hance
muted 1 day bc saying p o o r e z
50/50
Only Norris closed his points Gap to Verstappen while Leclerc's gap increase to 86 and Piastri's gap increased to 94
Dany boy should be good right? I mena come on
atp i dont think charles has a chance anymore
Needs to outscore by 14.5 per race
yup but i highly doubt he can do that for the rest of the season especially w lando improving
its not realistic anymore for everyone except Norris
Guys sorry its my fault there was no safety car this year
then you can fix it
here you go
Wow that's a great logo
Lego
But it is expensive here š¦
Itās expensive everywhere
Especially a set like this with ALL the sponsors and licensing
imcomparable to any driver
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If there is a mod or admin here , I wanted to ask why I was muted? Because I don't know where to find the reason I was
I'm so glad Danny won driver of the day
You're likely to catch another mute for evading the automod
ok
Can someone educate me on this word? What does it mean?
Basically mocking Perez by using his name and poor? Or maybe poo?
Wsp
Precisely
And that's the reason for a 1 day mute. Because mocking/having fun?!? Then again, I was muted for a week using a common English word.
they call him like that bc he crashes too much+
I'm not a mod , but apparently yeah? Idk
Yeah , I am aware kinda
its automatic
I still don't know why I was muted for 1 day šš
What do you mean? You just go to the role channel and select roles
"having fun" is not an excuse for being toxic
Okay John, then why I see different versions of Maxās last name and nothing happens?
Got an example?
Nope donāt need a mute
The Perez ones were probably added because they were used a lot for toxicity
But you know
got it
How is it true that "nothing happens" then 
You tell me
The last slander name for Verstappen in this channel seems to have been 5 months ago and it's from a subsequently banned member
did ricciardo really just set a lap record in one of his last laps as an f1 driver
race lap record, but not overall track wr
w pfp š„
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āThank you Daniel š„¹ā ~ Max Verstappen Singapore 2024 šøš¬
Both Mclaren and Red Bull are cheating
Their cars are illegal according to regs
But FIA want championship battle
So they'll protect them
?
Insider info
I miss Ted during the races but DC holds shit tf down on F1 live channel
Speaking Coulthard probably better than Ric and Per rn
He is being promoted to customer

Heās shit, time for him to go tbh
He could still have a chance at WEC or Indycar or something like that
Maybe he could pull an alonso and come back as a rookie next season š
i was so idiot that i thought the fastest lap frop p11 to p20 counted a point
right.
saying that he is shit is a total exageration, man hjas won more races than Norris and Piastri combined?
Hes been unlucky with the current regulations that produce a car nopt fit for his driving style, but 2026 could be a big change for him
Eh you can't compare Ricciardo's wins to Norris and Piastris'
heh
Yh I meant like, relative to now. The car, his performance. Itās just a shame heās not performing well anymore.
It would be so cruel of them to kick him out now. Swapping out a driver for a rookie isn't going to change them in terms of constructor points. Danny is a fan favorite, I feel like Red Bull owes it to him to let him finish out the season to have a proper goodbye to F1
yeah I get that, I just see allot of new guys saying he doesn't deserve the seat
thats like saying u cant compare max's titles to lewis's titles
No
New guys š Iāve been into motorsports since Jesus was on Earth
Cough cough nyck de vries
They donāt give a fuck
they rlly dont
Obviously they don't care but I'm just saying my opinion
You say that like itās a good thing. All that means is that you have rose tinted nostalgia glasses on so thick you canāt see without them
Piastri is in his 2nd year and this is Norris' first year with a car that can consistently fight for wins
I have 22/22 vision
what? Ricciardo won in a much more difficult enviroment
How so
Idk⦠I think the current grid is more talent packed
talent yes, cars no
Ricciardo should walk, would be faster than his driving
Kick sauber šš
but the time diff these last seasons wass wild
and the last time weve seen that was merc domination
and rb ofc
Oh so? From what I hear back in the day 25-35% of the grid DNFed every week
Ahh the good days
they didnt have 3 engines for the season
They were able to not finish š
they would blow an engine on quali alone
thats what made f1 so fun
people soi mad abt winning they were dying trying
Yes, letās watch a Motorsport where the best thing is to see who isnāt going to be able to race this weekend due to mechanical issues
is that what made it fun
or part of it
nah people have stopped going for risky driving
the cars are safer
but the races get more and more mundane
i think Ham and Ver were the last 2 who were pulling risky moves nearly every race
now its a rare sight
Colapinto at the start was the most interesting part of singapore gp
albon when he gets divebombed by his teammate who kept the car fully in control and didnt miss his apex
crazy
So crazy
What else can you expect from Singapore besides safety cars
we didn't even get that š
Absolute filth
Albon jealous because Colapinto made his double overtake in Canada look like nothing
Safety cars are a lost art someone said
surely are this season
was almost like Monaco tbh
Watching singapore after whatever the fuck was baku was a pretty underwhelming experience
thats the average singapore race for you
yeah Singapore lacks some longer straights
overtaking slightly easier than Monaco but still
I mean, barring a mechanical failure, if you get pole in Singapore you have basically won the race (Except if you're Charles Leclerc)
It's hilarious, only 4 times the poleman has not won in Singapore, 2 is because of a DNF, and 2 have the poleman (Leclerc in BOTH cases) finishing P2
So,about calculations
Lando needs to get 8.6 points more than Max in all remaining weeks in order to have a chance for the WDC
Thanks!
this honestly baku was a shit show of a gp š
Virtually this means that even if Lando wins all the races with a fastest lap, if Max finishes 2nd in all, Max wins
With the sprint races included
Goodbye Danny š
Is it confirmed this is it for him?
So sad
It would make zero sense to fire him, especially if it's in the middle of a season
He's only 2 places behind Tsunoda
They did with Logan and look how it went
That's because he was actually underperforming
With 1 point , it would be crazy but theres ferrari to claim p2 and maybe 1 or 2 wins
I did the calculations and that is true
So Piastri would have to help his teammate
And Leclerc should also finish ahead of max as often as possible
With a month break, we'll have possibly the last of big upgrades for the teams
Yeah, but honestly i dont think theres another win for max this season, if he can win another race, then he deserves WDC anyway, crazy performance at the start
hopefully Austin
Max did the Button 2009 strat
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Also norris didnt out score max by 8.6 points the whole season except Australia which is crazy and I might be false
Hope itās not true but Dannyās look says it all
Honestly,it's over for Ricciardo
honestly, even if they don't kick him out midseason i can't believe VCarb and RBR let the speculations get so bad that this man truly believes he's gone.
Better to take Lawson right away into the seat if they want him to be ready for 2025 already
This
It's not really the middle of the season anymore
We are already going to the last round of the championship with only 6 races left
Still before the season is over
Imagine if McLaren fires Piastri Midway through next year because he's behind Norris in standings
If anyone should be fired before the season is over it's Perez
Difference is, Piastri is performing and is actually showing signs that sooner or later he'll be surpassing Lando in performance and Perez was expected to be at least close to Max in the races (though we now know it's mostly attributed to RedBull's path of failed upgrades).
except he only did good for one race and the second Max got back on top of things he was trundling around the back where has been the entire year
Ricciardo is in the same boat as De Vries right now
He got called back into the team with the expectation of his performances being better than Tsunoda and his only moments of shining were Mexico 2023 and Canada 2024
Though Canada was a race where Ferrari went back to 2020 levels of performance and Checo did crash again
Didn't albon crash too
LMAO
the receney bias is insane
Yeah
you know wha I mean
i know you mean receney
dude I absouletely love the word receney, it has such a depth and flavour to it
you really go frm 0-100 in seconds š
Ricciardo would be in the top 10 if the VCARB were a better car, he is only 2 places behind Tsunoda
imagine tsunoda abd ric being in 8th and 10th
Miami 2024 sprint too
only 8 points betwren leclerc and oscar
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@pure aurora can I interview you
The Real Oscar Piastri
it will only take 3 minutes
sure but im on the train so skow response
That's fine
Scoring your second F1 win in Baku two weeks ago fighting Charles Leclerc until the end. How are you feeling about your chances to win the championship?
Uhh I think its a rare chance, and uh landos obviouslt ahead, so well have to wait till next year
Speaking of Lando, people have been strongly suggesting that he isn't a WDC contender in F1 compared to you.
Do you think you are better than Lando Norris?
Lamdos better than me rn yes, the standings are a testimoney to that, but for 2025 the cards will be reshuffled
yah?
oh damn i forgot
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Why do you have no emotion after winning races?
i think u will overtake leclerc at the end tho!
i had hope that leclerc will stay 3rd after monza but mclaren has been cooking!
Hey donāt impersonate drivers you saltless cheese
saltless cheese??? š
Never had it, itās probably really bad
Differnet people express emotions in different ways and this is how I show mine.
How does one get cheese without salt
Witchery
It's quite bori- Great talk, thank you for your time

Lmao
wonderful
Well, there's no salt in the cheese, it's actually self-explanatory.
are YOU ok?
I have a bit of a tickle in my throat which is annoying
But Iām otherwise good thanks for asking

no comment on that one
Nah the monster dissolved it
when are the news out already bro
they still have a month to make the announcement so sometime in that time range
Lol love the pfp, but yeah I agree. Rip the bandaid off and get it over with already
This
It is the worst kept secret on the grid SINCE Stroll signing back on with Aston Martin
Fr
thx
brother??????/
Man we gotta step up our game?
I have to beat verstappen
@versed flax
you pinged a bot bro lmao
wow lando norris?
Aaaannnnd that's enough Internet for me today I guess
lmao
WAIUT THIS IS THE CUTEST GIF INT HE WORLD?
i love this lil dude
Heās gay
I was kinda hoping heād react like Norris does to fish
Rude
Runs away crying
based
Problem?
i would never run away from fish
No? Heās just kissing a guy and I thought cos would relate and they could be friends but I guess not⦠š
no yeah i got the joke, ur good
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i too am gay for mr. fish.
Woahhhhhh
Hello
Mr fish invented gay
holy shit is that jenson button
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lmao
Itās Leila smh
Also sorry weāre used to people being ass wipes about the big bad colourful gays who want to eat the brains of little kids š±
what the fuck lmao
thats so specific
Thatās the trump rhetoric and basically everyone who tries to find a bullshit reason to hate on them
did trump actually say that lmao? my guys turning into a bigger meme than hawk tuah
Trump himself idk but itās definitely the tale thatās circulating
Anyway look at how handsome seb is
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seb loves love and i love that
Love is love, no need to add extra words or titles to it
Yup
oh no i do
but bro is about to get freaky
All of my fans, DM me
@snow swan you are not lando
nope
because is nice
Man I come on discord cuz my fans told me to, and everyone is like you can't be lando norris
verstappen is better than you
Well you can say what you want my mate
you loose the pole position every first lap
