monaco-gp

[grave cosmos]

what it means?

[left sun]

You’re talking to a wall m8

He’s talking about the slit of space within the rear wing when going high speed

[vestal hatch]

looks like some McLaren guy made infringement with Equipment in pit lane so they got fined

[snow swan]

aaan....y.. update on the... infringemmnt.....

[left sun]

Do they state what the equipment that was used is

[vestal hatch]

nope

[grave cosmos]

DANI OLMO GOAL

[vestal hatch]

on the doc no

[grave cosmos]

Barca 3-0

[eternal rose]

It's okay to think they are illegal, but if they really were the FIA would've already stepped in, rear wing flexes are actively monitored during races

[verbal gazelle]

You see the gap on Mclarens wing when it's low speed? The whole cross section hole is smaller than Ferrari = higher downforce, however, during high speed it opens up and becomes bigger which means less drag

[vestal hatch]

bro watcing laliga

[grave cosmos]

Lamine Yamal got a brace on this match

[tender isle]

thats worse than the mclaren

[verbal gazelle]

BUT ITS STATIC
DUDE

[outer venture]

So the bigger the gap the higher the speed?

[brave junco]

Can you mathematically prove the percentage of speed McLaren gained because of the tiny gap?
If that was something significant FIA would have intervened as someone already said in this chat.

[vestal hatch]

VSC Infringement nothing

[tender isle]

thats worse cause that means in constantly like that lmao

[snow swan]

nooohoooooohoooooooo

[verbal gazelle]

I swear you guys are too dumb to be explained this

[vestal hatch]

yet just wait a bit

[outer venture]

I am stupid

[left sun]

I don’t believe that the percentage was that significant to where it would’ve been impossible for Charles to overtake. multiple times during the race he was within less than 0.4 at the beginning of the straight

[grave cosmos]

Lewandowski made that gk leaning

[left sun]

Weleleh you don’t get it

[verbal gazelle]

The fact that Mclaren wing moves gives them both good downforce and top speed. It's an insane compromise instead of having to chose one or the other

[tender isle]

ok explain the big ass open drs flag on the ferrari

[runic flint]

Woohoo

[left sun]

The wing didn’t create an advantage big enough for the FIA to say “this is a problem”

[outer venture]

I wish I had my physics teacher who I used to talk to the races about cause he's the only irl person Ik who watches them, he could've explained this shit

[verbal gazelle]

We will see at the end of the season

[brave junco]

Yeah

[runic flint]

Actually

[left sun]

It also hasn’t even been mathematically calculated to how big of an advantage it was in the straights and low speed corners

You’re acting like the McLarens both had a Lando Zandvoort-esque performance

[safe merlin]

aloso mentions 🗣️ 🔥

[left sun]

If that was the case I’d be on your side whole heartedly

[verbal gazelle]

bro, do you understand F1 cars at all?

[left sun]

……

[verbal gazelle]

Teams got different packages for different races

[outer venture]

Dayum

[verbal gazelle]

High downforce, high top speed, or a compromise between both

This wing from Mclaren effectively gives them two packages in one

[proven leaf]

Their car still wasn't the fastest in Baku was it

[left sun]

It’s almost like this guy can’t read

And just waits to respond

[verbal gazelle]

By opening up on high speed and closing on low speed, they get both great downforce and good top end.

[runic flint]

https://tenor.com/view/pioli-stefano-pioli-pioli-coaching-giacomo-murelli-murelli-gif-25674268

[left sun]

If the advantage was so big why haven’t they don’t anything then

Why haven’t the FIA stepped in

[verbal gazelle]

They have, they said they don't care until end of the season

[left sun]

Since the advantage McLaren gained from it was so significant

[verbal gazelle]

Are you fucking dumb bro?

[proven leaf]

MaFiA apparently

[proven leaf]

They have ?

[left sun]

Okay

[runic flint]

Mafia. Hell na

[outer venture]

I shouldve gotten popcorn

[vestal hatch]

twitter: Since they are British so they are not gonna do anything

[verbal gazelle]

They literally said they won't do anything about it, they will monitor it and then address it at the end of the season because teams wouldn't be able to develop new parts if things changed

This was after RB and Ferrari complained

[left sun]

Truly

[turbid pine]

Ermmm .... actually, you see because I am Fernando alosno and I am the goat 🐐 , of course perez crashed with sainz because it was actually strolls fault

[verbal gazelle]

It's like you moptherfuckers don't read at all and then come here and fucking spount some random bullshit lmfao

[safe merlin]

10 second penalty to ocon

[proven leaf]

Why won't they use them then

[runic flint]

Alonso.

[outer venture]

Actually it was Michael Schumacher and Logan Sargeant

[verbal gazelle]

Because these wings were banned season ago, Redbull and Aston. So they didn't develop them further

And now FIA is like we don't care, let them race

[safe merlin]

man why is this such a big deal

if it was then we would hear about this nonstop

[verbal gazelle]

I swear you fuckers started watching F1 yesterday

[turbid pine]

Idk twitter user moment

[outer venture]

Ouch

[runic flint]

Anything could be a big deal

at this point

[left sun]

Weleleh thinks he’s smarter than everyone so whatever he says goes according to him

[proven leaf]

I started watching this season so I genuinely don't know

[verbal gazelle]

I'm smarter than you bro

that's for sure

[left sun]

Welelehs trying to argue the advantage gained from the wing was significant I’m saying it wasn’t

[turbid pine]

I swear weleleh is an F1 MECHANIC trust

[runic flint]

[safe merlin]

im getting an od from copium

[left sun]

Wether it’s illegal or not I genuinely don’t care

[still forge]

I love how everyone thinks the McLarens will be disqualified as if that has not happened before

[verbal gazelle]

Well, I'm a mechanical engineer tbh

[left sun]

He’s making it seem like the advantage gained was a magnitude

[runic flint]

Pocket money anyway

[left sun]

But anyway

[verbal gazelle]

It was enough for other teams to report it

[runic flint]

or 1 cent

[left sun]

Onto Singapore

[turbid pine]

Then prove what you say it's true 🤷

[verbal gazelle]

Prove what I say is true? What do you want me to prove? That a wing that opens up during high speed is good and then it closes is good?

[left sun]

Welcome to F1 where teams report everything and if it’s banned it’s banned and if it’s not it’s called “innovation”

[verbal gazelle]

that's literally DRS bro

[pastel osprey]

bring back latifi

[verbal gazelle]

high section wing = good downforce, low section wing = less drag good top end

this is basics

[vestal hatch]

DAS moment

[verbal gazelle]

the fact that this wing does it is insanely good and advantageous.

if you cannot agree with this, you're an idiot fanboy no other words

this is literal basics

[runic flint]

Wow

[still forge]

Anyways, no penalty for Max, but a warning

[outer venture]

Plot twists they're a girl

[runic flint]

Much documents as always

[pastel osprey]

penalty for ocon

[brave junco]

For what?

[verbal gazelle]

no penalti for Max or any other of the teams. You forgot that very important bit

[turbid pine]

So basically you are saying that Oscar used DRS illegally?

[pastel osprey]

shall we clap for you knowing the basics or what

[safe merlin]

i think its legal if less than 15 mm

[vestal hatch]

overtaking after chequered flag while in VSC

[safe merlin]

not sure 100%

[verbal gazelle]

No, I said mclaren developed a wing that allow them to have less drag during high speed and keep the downforce on low speeds

[outer venture]

@verbal gazelle but like ferraris wing hnd a bigger gap then McLarens tho so weren't both advantaged

[verbal gazelle]

by having what it weems like, moving parts

[snow swan]

Has there been a decision on the Sainz-Perez incident yet?

[safe merlin]

not that im aware about

[brave junco]

Just an Inchident

[turbid pine]

But that isn't DRS?

[outer venture]

Fia said it's a racing incident

[vestal hatch]

no further action

[main elk]

Oh what do you know….a race incident made the race more exciting….crazy 😆

[verbal gazelle]

racing incident

[snow swan]

Tyty

[hushed wadi]

the fuck does "warning" mean lmfao

[verbal gazelle]

it had a bigger gap but that same gap exists during low speed = less downforce = less cornering speed

differnece is mclaren's closes during low speeds

[placid rivet]

dont do it again i guess

[hushed wadi]

guess what else means "don't do it again"

[vestal lintel]

dont do it again or you will get a punishment

[hushed wadi]

that's right, a reprimand

[outer venture]

So basically Ferrari should've closed the cap during corners, I mean since the fia isn't taking an action a smart team shouldn't complain and develop there wings too

[snow swan]

Max had so many slaps on the wrist it's hard skin atp

[verbal gazelle]

developing parts takes time and testing which teams don't have mid season.

also, this flexing was banned by FIA a few seasons ago when redbull and aston martin did it, which is why teams droped the idea.

now suddenly, its let them race which is why people are "mad"

[raw plaza]

means they told him not to do it next time

[outer venture]

Did McLaren have it before the summer break

[turbid pine]

I don't see FIA doing anything tho

[summer drift]

Any update on Verstappen McLaren investigation

[raw plaza]

ig because fia didnt do it earlier they didnt take any action

[verbal gazelle]

no idea, would need to check previous races

[novel sorrel]

Basically “we understand we didn’t call this earlier in the season. Do it again and you’re getting large penalties.”

[raw plaza]

warning 5000 fine

[verbal gazelle]

they already said they won't do anything until end of the season

[turbid pine]

Ah ok

[verbal gazelle]

I expect ferrari and redbul to bring something for future races

[summer drift]

Aight cheers

[vestal hatch]

Helmut Yapping said they gonna in Austin same for ferrari

[verbal gazelle]

you understand other 3 or 4 drivers were in the same istuation right?

[raw plaza]

there was a vsc earlier in the season but fia didnt do anything that time so max told them now obv they wont do anything but give a warning

[placid rivet]

I think it’s because a reprimand is typically for a single driver who breaks a clear rule. This situation is different since it’s happened earlier in the season without any consequences. It would be unfair to reprimand someone for something that was allowed in previous races with no rule changes. I believe the warning means it’s not just directed at Max—they’re essentially saying, "No one should do this again."

[lost moat]

dude i just finished watching the race. wtf

[verbal gazelle]

more cars were involved, same outcome

[turbid pine]

Welcome to the drama

[hushed olive]

No one got penalties ?

[raw plaza]

yea

mclaren 5000 fine

thats it

[turbid pine]

Just warnings , I am kinda disappointed

[vestal lintel]

Williams did good this race

[fleet aspen]

Stroll should have got points today

[raw plaza]

amazing colpinto

[turbid pine]

They cooked so hard albon was P3 for a few laps

[vestal hatch]

• Max
• Hulk
• Gasly
• Ocon

Still bro want max to get Pen when the other 3 also did it

[raw plaza]

penalties or points?

[vestal hatch]

yeah no

[lost moat]

10 points for williams…. lets go?

[vestal lintel]

2 more teams need to sign so franco may get a seat

[verbal gazelle]

just another hamilton fan that blames max for 2021

[brave junco]

They will be super duper happy

[fleet aspen]

Penalties for costing Yuki his race

[vestal hatch]

#stillwecry moment

[eternal rose]

its a slap on the wrist

[lost moat]

im pretty sure audi will be getting bottas and unfortunately vcarb will get lawson

[turbid pine]

I feel so bad for yuki man

[vestal lintel]

dont think Bottas is staying

[unreal basin]

Anyone saw the document the FIA released about the saintz-Perez incident?

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/yuki-tsunoda-cry-crying-devestated-sad-gif-26591422

[vestal hatch]

no further action

[lost moat]

really? who do you think will get signed

[hushed wadi]

6 people replied to me about what warning means and only you bothered to explain how it differs from a reprimand

lol

[lost moat]

there are already like 5-6 rookies next year

[vestal lintel]

not sure tbh if they want to do what merc did when they joined the seb

[unreal basin]

Oh damn. Thanks

[unreal basin]

Alright

[hushed wadi]

but every driver summoned got the same "sanction" if you will

[main elk]

Imagine getting muted for calling the Perez and Sainz incident (pre race), and getting muted for it , but it still happens

Haha

[carmine sparrow]

he was trying to warn us

[main elk]

Just couldn’t handle the truth

[placid halo]

Perez….

[lost moat]

so in summary, perez couldve prevented the crash, but sainz caused it but had less vision?

[stiff bough]

neither driver was predominantly at fault

[main elk]

Perez could have moved left. But he was trying to catch the tow off Charles. But so was Sainz . So they touched wheels

[plush owl]

what is up with sainz and perez's crash

it seems so out of place almost like sainz has turned into him

[rocky blade]

Well

He did

[carmine sparrow]

sainz was too focused on staying in the slipstream that he probably forgot to look behind him before barreling into the apex

[rocky blade]

Pérez didn't react to Sainz slowly turning into him

but it was more Sainz turning into Pérez than Pérez's fault

[plush owl]

it seems so immidiate

the turn

[carmine sparrow]

yeah perez didnt see it coming

[plush owl]

oh so they touched wheels and sainz just yeeted with that momentum

[eternal rose]

yep

[plush owl]

oke i get it

so unlucky of perez tbh

he was having a really good race after a long time

[warm vessel]

chat chat

[rocky blade]

He did

he even reacted to it

but it was the slighest turn to the left imaginable

[main elk]

Perez deserves that podium

[warm vessel]

i found this on twitter, i would love to hear your thoughts on this

https://x.com/brakeboosted/status/1835310512738910387

B (@brakeboosted) on X

I'll leave this here @ScuderiaFerrari @FIA

The entire DRS flap is rotating under load. You can see at the pivot points, the flap is not aligning with the wing tips.

The flap is backing off at high speed, shedding drag. How is this okay?

Twitter · Sep 15, 2024, 1:31 PM

[plush owl]

and the driver that benefited from this schenanigan is again bin russell

[carmine sparrow]

yeah maybe it was a slow turn i see now

but i can see from his angle it wasnt clear

i dont see him reacting to it

[verbal gazelle]

already discussed

btw

https://x.com/f1multiviewer/status/1835331158675951966

MultiViewer (@f1multiviewer) on X

🔍Comparing the difference in rear wing deflection under load for the top three teams in Azerbaijan.

McLaren seems to be the only team where the gap between the main plane and the DRS flap widens at the edges when the wing is under load.

📸: stills from @F1

#F1 #AzerbaijanGP

Twitter · Sep 15, 2024, 2:53 PM

[rocky blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423112995590111233/1284907532447518761/youtube_iV9LjS16ioM_1920x1080_h264.mp4?ex=66e856e4&is=66e70564&hm=35278f340a4a8a5db04fd257ac52caf51f03c7892fd789d966cfd8e7222124ae&

[verbal gazelle]

this is even better

[rocky blade]

If you look from were they exit the corner

to were they finally touch

Pérez moved to the left a bit

so he saw it coming

but it was such a lazy turn

it's even more clear if you look at the onboard of it

https://youtu.be/f9fEYLO2tTw

[warm vessel]

sorry didn't notice

[carmine sparrow]

yeah i was looking at the onboard and his steering wheel seems straight

[errant shadow]

Oscar gets DSQed, then we've got a long wait for the next McLaren win

[carmine sparrow]

yeah mclaren is clearly using some elasticity tricks

but its currently within rules

[rapid rover]

Sainz‘ fault imo

[carmine sparrow]

youll have to wait until 2026

and even then, setting rules against that sort of stuff is super hard

[rocky blade]

It is 100%, although it kinda sucks that Checo had a chance to prevent it and he didn't

[errant shadow]

The problem is, if Piastri gets DSQed, then most people will say he has zero wins

[carmine sparrow]

he wont get dqed because its within rules

[errant shadow]

And McLaren will probably be back to 2023 days so it'll be a long wait

[rapid rover]

Yes, however it’s not Perez‘ duty to move over to the left, I never get the people defending Sainz in this particular case

[still forge]

No one will get disqualified
FIA can only ban/monitor this type of bending for future races, but i am absolutely sure that they're not going to do anything about that with 7 races left

[carmine sparrow]

theyll be able to run with it until rule changes in 2026

[errant shadow]

Tell that to Ferrari fans

[rocky blade]

It's not his duty, but at the same time, do you prefer to continue racing despite that yes it sucks that you have to prevent something that you shouldn't really have to

or well

what ended up happening

[analog merlin]

if it's not banned already it will be for next season

[rocky blade]

Like yeah, it sucks that for example you can have a divebomb driver behind you and he might do a stupid move that might take both of you out of the race

[kindred cedar]

Lmao

[rocky blade]

but if you can avoid it then do it

[rapid rover]

Yes

[rocky blade]

it's better doing that than just

crashing

[errant shadow]

Although you can't really call F1 a constructors championship anymore with the slightest bit of innovation being frowned upon

[carmine sparrow]

i dont think so, changing rules within an era is pretty rare

[still forge]

That move was far from stupid

Charles just slept on it, he even admitted it later that he did not defend that enough

[carmine sparrow]

its entertainment. would you want to see mercedes 18th wcc?

[rocky blade]

No no

I wasn't talking about that

[eager dragon]

WE WON

WE WON

[still forge]

Oh

[eager dragon]

WE DID IT

[still forge]

I retract my statement then

[vestal lintel]

nah just other teams will use it if its seen as legal

[rocky blade]

Read from here

It's just an example I gave

[still forge]

Oh the Perez/Sainz one

[rocky blade]

Yeah

The divebomb is just an example

[sonic epoch]

How many points per race does Oscar need to win the title?

[rocky blade]

of when somebody sends it from too far back and if you don't avoid them then well

touch

[eager dragon]

We can be champions

[rocky blade]

How far is he back from Max again?

I forgor

[still forge]

13 points per race weekend

[still forge]

Which would require Piastri winning with Max on P4 every race

[fringe vapor]

do you all think lando can catch max come by abu dhabi?

[rocky blade]

Ah

ye

[kindred cedar]

Easily

[rocky blade]

At this rate, no

[kindred cedar]

Same for leclerc

[still forge]

In normal conditions? Yes
If something like yesterday happens then no

[rocky blade]

These last races have to be good

[errant shadow]

Considering red bull is now suffering with Newey, yes

[eager dragon]

Yes

[sonic epoch]

Red Bull gotta hold on till their upgrades come in Austin

[vestal lintel]

2025 will be a good year for the WCC and WDC battle i feel

[eager dragon]

Red Bull is trash

[rocky blade]

I can see this but I also see McLaren absolutely dominating

[still forge]

Lando needs 9 points per race weekend which is more doable

[rocky blade]

Ah

Yeah he needs like

15 points per race

[errant drum]

ferrari will be close i feel

[rocky blade]

and for Max to DNF in one or two races

[still forge]

P1 for Norris and P3 for Max every race
But, with the currnet Redbull it should be way easier for Norris to catch up

[rocky blade]

I mean tbf they are close rn because McLaren doesn't know what the fuck they are doing

So if they keep it like this

[still forge]

Now they are farther to McLaren tanh before

[rocky blade]

then yeah I can see it

if they solve their shit

it's joever

[errant drum]

only if norris decides that hes gonna pick up his shit

[still forge]

Ferrari went into Baku by being 39 points behind the leaders, and now they are 51 points behind

Losing Sainz was huge damage for the championship

[kindred cedar]

Sainz

[errant drum]

yep

[hushed olive]

Red bull could go to p3 in wdc behind Ferrari too and they wouldnt go behind merc cuz they are way too behind

[errant drum]

bad yr for merc ngl

[hushed olive]

Fr the start was a nightmare

But they improved after canada

[sonic epoch]

Alonso's drive today was underrated

[errant drum]

merc be getting back one race then fall back to the deep end

[hushed olive]

From winning spa to p7 and p8 in zandvoort

[still forge]

Ferrari is tralining Redbull by 37 points, so with their respective current form P2 is doable

[proven leaf]

Tbh today was quite a good drive

[hushed olive]

If that is not inconsistency idk what it is

[proven leaf]

I get that he was in a good car , but it was pretty darn good

[quaint kite]

Probably the best he could have done, and fortunate to inherit the extra positions from Checo and Sainz

[errant drum]

could have been easily a huge margin win if not for quali yest

[proven leaf]

0 screen time

[still forge]

But sucks for Ferrari being the eternal number 2
Finally they got on top of Mercedes and Redbull who have been denying them every year since 2010, but now McLaren decides to built a championship winning capable car after 12 years lmao

[fleet aspen]

Alonso was driving today?

[carmine sparrow]

well he was pretty unlucky with the inchident in q1

[eager dragon]

You guys have 16 championships

[proven leaf]

He explained the quali stuff though , his monitor on the steering showed yellow , so he slowed and bailed .

[hushed olive]

Mercedes's start to 2024 was Even worse than 2022

[quaint kite]

Do we really think that Norris is consistent enough to actually catch Max for the championship here?

[errant drum]

can we appreciate colapinto and bearman both getting in the points

[proven leaf]

Consistency really isn't the matter

[hushed olive]

Never finished above p5 and multiple q2 eliminations

[proven leaf]

Struggling max is

[stiff bough]

I feel like it's gonna be less on Lando and more on McLaren

[fleet aspen]

I live in blind delusion that no one will beat max

[carmine sparrow]

mclaren will 100% win wcc

[eager dragon]

Ik I love it

[proven leaf]

Yeah that's the best he could do tbh

[errant drum]

yeah mclaren cannot be pulling lando down

[carmine sparrow]

but i dont think lando will get wdc

[snow swan]

Just finished the race...PEREZ

[errant drum]

he is world champion material

[snow swan]

[hushed olive]

This could be mclaren first wcc since the 90s

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/verstappen-pain-max-verstappen-max-verstappen-azerbaijan-max-verstappen-kicking-max-gif-21881961

[quaint kite]

I think this weekend is more of an outlier for Max. He was complaining about the car jumping around. Kind of sounds like he had an actual problem

[snow swan]

Checo had a podium lmao

[still forge]

...In 75 years, yes
But for a team that has not won a title for 16 years now and still boasts about their history and such it's kind of a bad look of being eternally number 2

[snow swan]

And fumbled at the 1

[vestal lintel]

Not 2024 but 2025 is much higher chance imo

[proven leaf]

Tbh perez was goated today

I feel sad for him

[quaint kite]

Kind of a silly crash they had. Was ruled a racing incident btw

[snow swan]

Outqualifying and out finishing max would have been a good look for him today ..

[fiery mica]

cant believe i had hope for 2022.... everything looked so bright and achieveable....

[still forge]

Nah Ron should be Leclerc
Piastri was way ahead

[carmine sparrow]

probably

[proven leaf]

And especially by that margin

[snow swan]

A podium for the king of the steets

[still forge]

2022 was indeed achievable, if you look at what was lost from Ferrari's side (and the driver's errors, of course)

[quaint kite]

I honestly think Max had an actual problem

[snow swan]

Checo needed that

[proven leaf]

I just hope 🤞

[fiery mica]

TD 39 ruined our chances, we had to redo alot of our upgrades

[snow swan]

Maybe he will show up in Mexico for his home pride.

[proven leaf]

King of the streets

Indeed

[fiery mica]

that man has NEVER showed up in mexico!

[snow swan]

Oh

[stark nacelle]

oscar piastri is actually goated

[proven leaf]

What's td 39

[snow swan]

I thought my fantasy league was fucked.

[proven leaf]

Fantastic drive today

[snow swan]

Perez made sure it wasn't

[still forge]

Nah i ran the numbers once and let me tell you, Ferrari had a decent chance even after TD39
Checo basically would hurt Redbull's chances

[brisk hare]

guess why

[proven leaf]

Ad a lando fan , really could not complain on piastris performance today

Absolutely flawless

[quaint kite]

Oscar has handily outscored Lando of late

[proven leaf]

And if this is about the team orders nonsense

[stark nacelle]

so much calmer than norris was at that stage in his career. love norris but piastri is rlly rlly good

[eager dragon]

Lame

[snow swan]

Shutting the door lap after lap on leclerc

[fleet aspen]

Carlos is definitely getting boo’ed in Mexico now 🇲🇽

[brisk hare]

im talking about your rear wing

[errant drum]

oscar deserved todays win for sure

[analog merlin]

so salty

[still forge]

I'm a Leclerc fan and i can't even be mad about it, that overtake was bold and brave, and made no mistake afterwards
Brilliant driving

[proven leaf]

Oh ffs , fia rules it okay man

[fiery mica]

It was a measure to tighten the floor because there was alot of bouncing. Hamilton and Sainz complained that it was hurting their backs, floor was raised.

[snow swan]

The cartel would like to have a word with him

[stark nacelle]

based ferrari fan

[proven leaf]

Proposing ?

[eager dragon]

That was a wonderful move unfortunately I missed it cuz I was asleep cuz im American

[brisk hare]

its not legal.

[still forge]

It's not illegal per the FIA though. Let's not grasp at straws

[brisk hare]

nope its not legal

[proven leaf]

Then why didn't fia tell anything

[errant drum]

tbvh perez does not deserve a seat next yr

[eager dragon]

What’s wrong with it

[fiery mica]

Tbf yeah, alot of it was strategy mishaps, france... yeah. I always think about charles' face when he looks inside Max's Champion room

[fleet aspen]

Crashing into a Mexican driver that’s just found his mojo again on mexicos biggest holiday 😭

[brisk hare]

why do you think

[stark nacelle]

i aint watching allat

[fiery mica]

Porpoising, yes

[analog merlin]

just because they're the only ones doing it doesn't make it illegal

[quaint kite]

What am I actually supposed to be looking at here

[proven leaf]

Yeah autocrrect sucks

[still forge]

The FIA has not deemed it illegal, so they can still race with it. They found a loophole

[proven leaf]

Rear wing flexing

[errant drum]

make that 34 races where perez has not outpositioned max in a race 😛

[errant shadow]

If Piastri gets DSQed, McLaren should help him win, it's their fault, so they should do everything to help Piastri get his lost win back, even if it means breaking their set of rules

[proven leaf]

Exactly

[still forge]

Literally people here and there screaming for a McLaren DSQ after 2 videos
Sure, the rear wing flexes more, but per the FIA, it's still legal

[fleet aspen]

Checo would have gotten p2 today if Carlos hadn’t happened 😭

[fiery mica]

I think it will be brought up by the team and if they say ok to it, then maybe the next upgrades will bring a flexi rear wing for every car lol

[quaint kite]

Why would he be dsq'd

[jade schooner]

why would he be dsq'd

[eager dragon]

That’s what building race cars is abt

[still forge]

No one will get DSQd

You do not get DSQd by things that cannot be measured

[brisk hare]

rear wing is slightly opening in the straights

[errant shadow]

Ask anyway who's with Ferrari, except @still forge

[errant drum]

i honestly whos fault it was cuz it looked like a racing incident

[fiery mica]

I cant wait for DRS to be void next regs*

[brisk hare]

and its closing in the braking

[snow swan]

Oh yeah, definitely getting a visit from those 2 guys with axes in breaking bad

[proven leaf]

Not opening , it's just flexing more

[still forge]

If that's the case, Redbull should be disqualified for like the first half of 2021

Which does not make fucking sense

[errant shadow]

DON'T GIVE EM IDEAS

[brisk hare]

and thats not legal

its giving a mini drs effect

[fiery mica]

While i dont disagree about DSQd but this is definitely measured lol

[analog merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/salamanca-salamancas-cousins-the-cousins-breaking-bad-gif-21202254

[errant drum]

fia havent deemed it illegal 🙆‍♀️

[proven leaf]

Mate you don't know better than the fia

[snow swan]

Oh yeah I love those guys aha

[eager dragon]

Mercedes should open up a lawsuit like Felipe Massa

[fiery mica]

they werent dsq'd but it was banned tho

[errant drum]

its not illegal till u get caught

rmb

[brisk hare]

ferrari tried this back in 2022 and guess what happened

Redbull tried too

[still forge]

Exactly
If it was banned, per today's logic, Redbull should be DSQd, which was never going to happen

[finite beacon]

The FIA have deamed it fuckimg legal so go back to ur ferrari depression

[still forge]

No one will be disqualified

[brisk hare]

who are you 😂

[proven leaf]

They deemed it legal now

[fleet aspen]

No they did a breakdown of it after the race and even sky sports (who hate Redbull) showed it from two different angles.

You can see Carlos on the white line by the wall and he just starts coming over to the left.

[finite beacon]

a merc fan

[errant drum]

ferrari relapses

[fiery mica]

Not really sure why it hasnt been banned if we're looking at precident

[proven leaf]

But regardless , checo could've moved left if he saw Sainz move left

[still forge]

That's the only question that can be asked
Plus, this flexing is not anything new

[errant shadow]

Who here, thinks that if Piastri gets DSQed, McLaren should help Piastri win over Norris, since McLaren has fucked it up for Oscar twice now, so Oscar, if he gets DSQed, must be allowed to try and get it back, even if it means breaking papaya rules

[quaint kite]

So there's too big a gap in the rear wing? Isn't that like what happened with Hamilton in Brazil?

A few years ago? Or am I not understanding

[errant shadow]

It's only fair since they tainted his first win and may have destroyed his second

[still forge]

That was the DRS opening too much if i remember correctly

[brisk hare]

its not legal. without drs piastri was 4kms faster than Leclerc, with drs leclerc was just 3kms faster than piastri

[errant drum]

but checo also moved right

[fiery mica]

ofcourse flexing in aero body is not new, its quite normal. Shouldnt flex this much but not new

[fleet aspen]

Checo had the racing line, Carlos shouldn’t have crashed into him

[proven leaf]

Just 3 ? Do you have proof

[brisk hare]

yeah

[unreal folio]

agreed but sainz said their wheels caught so it was game over after that

[fleet aspen]

No he didn’t even sky sports agreed on that

This was all Carlos

[twin fox]

I just realised, both Williams finished ahead of lewis. 💀💀

[quaint kite]

Does that take into account battery levels?

[proven leaf]

If Oscar gets dsqed, lando does too

[still forge]

This is true though, telemetry shows
Not saying it's illegal, but the slight straight line speed advantage is true

[unreal folio]

actually a great thing for williams icl

[fleet aspen]

Go watch the video yourself if you don’t believe me. Use the white lines as references

[errant drum]

yur LH44 depression ong

[fiery mica]

Charles was running higher battery level, he was pushing quite hard

[brisk hare]

piastri %0 Leclerc %30 end of the race

[twin fox]

True

[proven leaf]

No , was Leclerc deploying battery and when was this ? Did piastri have drs ?

[errant shadow]

Yeah but if Oscar is DSQed, he has only one tainted win, so McLaren will need to get his second win back which would be a win the fans don't view as tainted

[brisk hare]

no

[fiery mica]

now that mclaren has climbed up the leaderboard, are we looking at Williams' renaissance anytime soon?

[still forge]

Not again with this

No one will be disqualified

[brisk hare]

not end of the race it was like 10 laps

earlier

[twin fox]

Nah idc, I like lewis, but rn I care more about lando v Max

[errant drum]

same fr

[proven leaf]

If it's dsqed it's not like they won't argue , they will.

[errant drum]

im staying delulu for lulu

[proven leaf]

On the long straight ? Also send proof

[errant shadow]

And then when Oscar tries to win again, "Papaya rules"

[fiery mica]

I need people to understand that no one is getting DSQd because they didnt go against any rules. Its a loophole. FIA checked the car beforehand! It will be on FIA if it turns out that its incorrect. They can only ban in for the future races

[finite beacon]

not proof

[brisk hare]

?

[finite beacon]

its just some guy saying things

[brisk hare]

thats f1 data page

[proven leaf]

They're not gonna make Oscar lose victories based on merit most probably , only switch positions when they're in 2 -3 and such also lando helped Oscar today and helped him secure his win , you can't argue with that

[quaint kite]

This doesn't mean shit

[brisk hare]

are you stupid?

[proven leaf]

Mean values , maybe McLaren just had greater straight line speed

[brisk hare]

this is f1 data page

[violet shoal]

why would oscar be dsq

[finite beacon]

mate ur the idot

[brisk hare]

and your saying that

[quaint kite]

If you're grasping at straws it might mean something

[brisk hare]

thats not a proof

[twin fox]

Sure, but in 2025

[brisk hare]

zero f1 knowledge for you sorry

[stiff bough]

the mclarens were running basically no wing so like... meh

[proven leaf]

When both have drs , you can say McLaren have a greater straight line speed as they have a lower downforfe wing compared to ferari

[fiery mica]

huh

[finite beacon]

thats some random guy saying things

[brisk hare]

random guy

😂

[proven leaf]

Low downforce wing

[brisk hare]

and mini drs effective rear

[proven leaf]

@brisk hare

[brisk hare]

wing

[twin fox]

Can someone just brief me about what is this about Oscar might get dsq? What happened?

[quaint kite]

No twiskye is correct

[stiff bough]

hes not getting a dsq

[quaint kite]

Lower wing means Drs has a smaller effect

[finite beacon]

their car isnt illegal

[proven leaf]

Buddy you're gasping at straws .. McLaren had a superior straight line speed , so when they both have drs Oscar is just faster

[brisk hare]

they dont both have drs most laps. piastri was like still just 4kms slower

[still forge]

These things though are taken from actual telemetry, so there is base on that pic
That McLaren is not illegal though

[proven leaf]

Also show the rest of the tweet

[fiery mica]

I dont give a crap about oscar getting DSQ'd i just want that flexi wing banned like RB did

[brisk hare]

just Leclerc "

[brisk hare]

ok

[finite beacon]

plus they have better engine

[proven leaf]

Read the tweet properly man ..

[fiery mica]

hmm not really lol, theyre running the same engine as merc which is inferior to ferrari.

[brisk hare]

dude im not talking about when piastri had drs

[proven leaf]

When they both don't have drs , piastri has greater speed

[brisk hare]

yeah ik that

[sonic epoch]

Dam Williams scored as many points as Red Bull this weekend

[brisk hare]

you cant say thats legal

honestly

[fiery mica]

What are you trying to say tho? That the wing gave them superior straight line on non DRS?

[winter forge]

The Mercedes engine was the fastest this weekend

[proven leaf]

You do know that the McLaren is a demon in clean air

[winter forge]

Look at the williams and alonso

[brisk hare]

DUDE

im talking about your rear wing and im sending you proves

look at the other teams

[proven leaf]

The ferrari lifts as well z you just can see it more clearly in the mcl as they have a lower down force wing

[fiery mica]

... mate even you cant believe that... Is it faster in baku compared to other tracks? Possibly because theres a straight which helps Williams and AM but Merc engine is inferior to ferrari.

[brisk hare]

that was not about lower wing

[stiff bough]

Why? There is no investigation against Piastri, and as far as we all know it's passed all previous FIA static tests.

[proven leaf]

The angles from which you look are different too , cuz the mcl wing is more flatter

[winter forge]

If we’re talking the engine with the most top speed it is undoubtedly the mercedes engine - last year I would disagree but all of the mercedes powered cars are very quick in a straight line this year

[brisk hare]

i know because its banned earlier we tryed it already before

[still forge]

That makes zero sense

[vernal holly]

Does Ollie appear twice on the standings as he drove for two different teams or does it all count as one

[brisk hare]

hell nah

[still forge]

It counts as one

[proven leaf]

Wdym ..

[stiff bough]

who is we? do you work in f1?

[brisk hare]

you must be kidding Man honestly..

[stiff bough]

just because you think its illegal doesn't make it illegal

[brisk hare]

its banned.

[stiff bough]

Ain't that a strange one, because it got put onto the car and has been allowed for however many races now

[twin fox]

Exactly, FIA thinks it's legal so whats all the fuss about?

[brisk hare]

i also have videos spa and monza.

[still forge]

If it was banned, this whole conversation would not be happening, because they would be forced to comply

The wing is not deemed illegal

[snow swan]

lando still have a chance for wdc?

[still forge]

Yes, but it will not be easy

[twin fox]

Theoretically yes

[snow swan]

313-254 = 59
lando has to close a gap of 59 points in 7 races.
let us assume that lando wins 5 of them..
he would get 5x25 = 125 points
while lets assume a avg position for max (let it be p5).. so he would score 10x7 = 70 points.
gap closed by lando 125-70= 55 points.
let us assume that he also wins 2 sprint races out of 3 (very unlikely) , he would score 16 more points...
but i think max could perform better in the end of the season beacuse redbull looked good today in baku.. sad that perez made mistake and lost podium and potential points.
so in the end of the year, max could get some podiums and lando wdc is gone then.

[snow sundial]

7 races, 59 points

[snow swan]

my theory.

[brisk hare]

Firstly if its not banned (it is) thats not legal. if its not legal Oscar needs to be dsq

[snow sundial]

It’s possible

[ember stone]

aaaaand red bull 2nd in cons champ

[still forge]

Ok. Can you provide proof that McLaren's wing is banned?

[brisk hare]

the wing is banned in 2022 and how can i find you the document in 2022

tell me

[snow swan]

any thoughts?

[brisk hare]

its possible still

[proven leaf]

You're grasping at air ... Just leave it man , the fia ain't gonna see it if you argue here

[still forge]

2022
Not applicable in 2024

[snow swan]

very unlikely.

[still forge]

It's the 2024 season as much as i know

[brisk hare]

💀💀

yeah das system banned after 2020 so use it in 2024

thats stupid

[still forge]

The DAS was specified to be banned for upcoming seasons

And as much as i remember, the 2022 technical directive was aimed on the floor, and not on the wings.

[fiery mica]

man im just a hater, i need mclaren to be out of my beautiful sport 💔

[brisk hare]

oh really , a rear wing that banned in before seasons and giving a mini drs effect without a drs is not banned for upcoming seasons

okay

[still forge]

Again, the TD039 was targeting flexi-floors

The underbody

[brisk hare]

i wish i had the document

[slender flower]

Why lmao

Why get rid of the second oldest team on the grid

[snow swan]

guys

any uodates on stewards?

[brisk hare]

no

[twin fox]

Umm lando basically needs 8-9pts more than max in every race, so even if lando consistently stay on the podium and max in that p5 area that he is in rn, lando would catch up to him. Even I am assuming red bull will bounce back towards the end of the season, meaning if max starts getting on the podium, norris will have ensure that he is P1 and gets the fastest lap (dutch gp sort of situation in terms of points)

[brisk hare]

no penalty

no dsq

[slender flower]

Williams popped off this weekend

10 points, getting above Alpine

[fiery mica]

in 2021, RBR's Flexi wings were banned

[slender flower]

Franco Scoring more points in 2 races than sargeant did in his career

[snow swan]

i mean even if lando doesnt win wdc this year its fine

[brisk hare]

that was the thing im talking about

[fiery mica]

because im a ferrari fan and i have huge hatred in my heart for the papaya color

[snow swan]

but mclaren 100% deserves cwc

[slender flower]

F1TWT is just a shitshow. All that lando hate and Im over here just "Man no one here has a brain"

[slender flower]

Smh

[snow swan]

nah its not the lando hate

[fiery mica]

cwc?

[proven leaf]

I don't get the lando hate tbh

[rapid horizon]

constructors

[slender flower]

Constructor's

[twin fox]

Fr

[brisk hare]

oh yeah

[placid swan]

woah

[slender flower]

Ferrari and McLaren are good friends/rivals

[snow swan]

like personally i dont get champions vibe from lando

feels like he is just there

[fiery mica]

ah wcc ok

[torn lily]

Ngl I find this very unlikely since they is a lot of competition rn, charles let's say

[snow swan]

with a good car

[pure wraith]

OSCAAAARRRR PIASSTRRIII still can't believe max got p5

[rapid horizon]

lando my favourite driver but I don't believe he has what it takes to catch up rn

[brisk hare]

imagine driving with drs without having a car in front

[twin fox]

It's a far reach sure, but possible

[brisk hare]

@still forge

[slender flower]

Lando doesnt have enough attitude or strength for a champion currently, but it doesnt discredit he wont be champion.

[snow swan]

exactly

[rapid horizon]

only possible if max keeps complaining about his car

but then again, charles

[proven leaf]

I get that but some people hate on him irrationally

[slender flower]

McLaren are already title-contending after a year ago from being back markers, which is RIDICULOUS

[twin fox]

Lol 😂

[fiery mica]

I feel like after singapore, the car will get better as we have a 3 week break

[snow swan]

thats their job

keyboard warriors

[still forge]

And this proves what exactly?

[brisk hare]

thats enough

im done

[rapid horizon]

three week break...😞😞

[torn lily]

Always possible and doable, just not with the odds

[fiery mica]

What are we discussing?

[still forge]

The McLaren rear wing

[torn lily]

True character development

[rapid horizon]

I start scratching two weeks without formula

[pure wraith]

lando should get wdc for a change ma has enough titles bug then he's not giving off championship vibes

[brisk hare]

you dont wanna understand

[gloomy ruin]

Fucking perez man jus ruined the sainz podium cause he cant bear spain conquering mexico once again

[twin fox]

True 👍

[brisk hare]

i got that

[fiery mica]

right, why do you think that proves nothing?

[unreal folio]

😭

[snow swan]

wtf lmao

[rapid horizon]

perez did nothing wrong

[pure wraith]

Why Were you abstaining from f1

[still forge]

Cause, the highlighted section implies the even of a DRS failure
Which, was not the case

[brisk hare]

i just proved that wing is not legal and he just says

[slender flower]

Then again, he did mess up some races for more points but weren't a fault to his own to SOME extent

[twin fox]

Finally phew

[gloomy ruin]

nothing wrong just crashed sainz for no reason

[snow swan]

right....f1....

[brisk hare]

shut up

[fiery mica]

Hmm do you agree that the mclaren flexi wing is similar to RBR's Flexi wing?

[twin fox]

😂😅

[slender flower]

Lando definitely will be world champion in the future, but currently, I dont see it happening in 24 or 25.

[snow swan]

yes

[pure wraith]

Have I perhaps said smthn wrong?

[brisk hare]

in his dreams

maybe

[snow swan]

i thought formula meant something else

[still forge]

I have no recent memory of the RBR flexi wings situation, so i cannot answer

[proven leaf]

[gloomy ruin]

also can someone tell me about the mclaren wing i saw some posts on twitter and didnt have time to fully look at it, what was it about

[fiery mica]

Right, do you think if they were to be similar, the same precident should be followed and it should be banned?

[slender flower]

No the formula represented the regulations

[pure wraith]

Oh I misread my mind automatically put the 1 after the formula.
But yhat would leave what other formula? Baby formula, Chem?

[still forge]

Yes.

[snow swan]

baby formula lol

[fiery mica]

Okay then, not sure why are you disagreeing with that person since theyre saying the same thing.

[tropic cloud]

cheeky hoint today

[rapid horizon]

yeha I need baby formula

[snow swan]

you should join graphic designing

[twin fox]

Did u just make this on ppt?

[proven leaf]

If so , they should be dsq for Monza as well

[tropic cloud]

congrats Williams however 🎉

[pure wraith]

[gloomy ruin]

dawg what this fake ah shit😂

[snow swan]

why is yuki not classified?

[pure wraith]

Is daniel really gonna be jobless no confirmations hv been made? Or have they?

[gloomy ruin]

i dont wanna see bottas and danny ric without a seat😭😭

[fiery mica]

because he didnt finish 90% of the race

[twin fox]

He won't be jobless dw, he will become the photograph and autograph person

[snow swan]

what happend tho

[pure wraith]

What does this chart signify? I'm a rookie so.....

[snow swan]

i started watching from lap 31

[pure wraith]

NOOORRR ;-;

[gloomy ruin]

bottas better to retire than drive that corolla of a car

[still forge]

They are saying that the wing is (as in, currently) illegal, while the FIA has still not deemed so.
The 2021 flexi-wings were not illegal either, until they were deemed as illegal by the FIA.
I'll take another example, the Ferrari 2019 engine. At the time, it was a gray zone, the FIA released a technical directive after they looked into it, and it became illegal.

Should the FIA want, they can make McLaren's rear wing illegal as well. I am saying that the wing is not illegal as of date, and was found to comply to the regulations. Again, the FIA can change that, and for me, they should.

[final shore]

lol

[twin fox]

He and stroll collided

[gloomy ruin]

corolla even faster ngl

[pure wraith]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA this is kinds sad tbh

[autumn ledge]

Yuki has been very unlucky last two races

[pure wraith]

They should extend the grid to 30 drivers

[gloomy ruin]

no😂😂 imagine that in monaco

[twin fox]

Wha--- 💀

[autumn ledge]

I’m not confident Bottas would necessarily want to race in that sauber again next year

[twin fox]

U really missing the safety car???

[gloomy ruin]

dawg said 30 drivers😭😭😭

[fiery mica]

Youre right, I agree. However, I think it is pretty safe to say that if it behaves the same way as the 21 RBR, then it should be illegal following the precident. It is ofcourse political. Theyre correct in their way. The Flexi Wing HAS been deemed illegal, why it has not been deemed illegal now is a news to me.

[autumn ledge]

I wish but we already talked about it

Not possible

Paddock not enough space and way more expensive to field 30 drivers

[carmine sparrow]

yeah people saying mclaren will get dsq is peak meme

[brisk hare]

ill drop this here

[pure wraith]

Bruh I'd say 40, cos like everyone should race its hard for pple who don't hv favorites

[twin fox]

Blud took it too seriously 💀

[fiery mica]

The mclaren will not get Dsq'd because its on FIA to check and test the car. However, it should be banned following the precident of 2021

[autumn ledge]

Might as well entertain the idea for a second

No race for a week

[pure wraith]

One crash here and there and then there's space for everyone :3

[gloomy ruin]

nice ragebait

[still forge]

I think you are missing the point i am trying to make
It is, right now, not being deemed as illegal, but the FIA can change it. I'm not saying it's correct or anything, but that McLaren as of now is compliant to the regulations

[fiery mica]

Sure they are? but that person is correct in the way that the Flexi Wing has already been banned once.

[brisk hare]

and im trying to say its banned earlier and for the upcoming seasons

and they are using it now

[fiery mica]

Not for the upcoming seasons, it was only banned for 2021!

[brisk hare]

nope

[still forge]

That is correct. Although, this was in a different generation of aero regulations, so i can only assume that they have been resetted since 2022

[brisk hare]

it was banned for the upcoming seasons too

[twin fox]

I thought u were done 🙄

[brisk hare]

i find a New of them

so

[twin fox]

Aight

[fiery mica]

As far as I know some of the innovations are permanently banned whilst others are banned for a season. Flexi Wing of RBR was banned for 2021. However, if @brisk hare has the document for showing that it was banned for upcoming seasons, Id have to agree with them.

[shrewd grotto]

Sorry, what is happening, who got banned after race. Hope is not Piastry

[twin fox]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-popcorn-3d-glasses-watching-eating-gif-17602628

[twin fox]

Well @brisk hare thinks he should, nothin official though (I think)

[brisk hare]

thats the thing that was too long time ago i cant find them

[river bane]

The mclaren was illegal?

[shrewd grotto]

Thats his problem. Until the stewards issue a letter of investigation, nothing can happen. That car ran a race last week. So it is legal

[twin fox]

Ahh I reckon not

[brisk hare]

potentially yes

[twin fox]

FIA doesn't think it is yet

[brisk hare]

but there will be not dsq

[river bane]

So IF it is illegal do they get DSQ or what?

[shrewd grotto]

Ferrari fans just want charl to win at all cost

[brisk hare]

no dsq

[twin fox]

Fr

[river bane]

I mean just making them take it off isn't really a penalty

[weary wharf]

what's this story? can you link me

[placid rivet]

Mclaren has mini-drs

[pseudo quail]

That’s how it works for any team

[shrewd grotto]

Makes no difference, Maclaren DRS speed is very low vs RB and Ferrari. Ferrari no DRS is 319 and MC 319

[cunning needle]

who won

[wanton token]

Huh

[placid rivet]

I mean, if the speeds shown in that image aren't just made up, I don't see how you can say it makes no difference.

[strong turret]

True

[placid rivet]

The rules are pretty clear if you ask me:
g. Any alteration of the incidence of the uppermost closed section may only be commanded by direct driver input and controlled using the control electronics specified in Article 8.3.

But if the FIA says its ok then the other teams just has to do the same i guess

[finite beacon]

Ferrari and RB still faster lol

[cunning needle]

woah

[placid rivet]

With DRS, sure. But the mini DRS advantage will obviously disappear once you actually activate DRS.

[cunning needle]

well deserved oscar win

[finite beacon]

but with mini drs its only +1km/h more than RB

[cunning needle]

wonderful job done by carlos putting perez into the wall

[finite beacon]

plus that might be from floor areo

[pseudo quail]

For piastri that was ideal since he needed the non drs benefits more

[placid rivet]

So because it's marginal, it doesn't matter? With that logic, you should be able to break all rules "marginally" since you're only just breaking them. 1 kmh over 2km (baku straight) is 0.1 seconds, over a race distance of 51 laps thats 5.1 seconds

[finite beacon]

exacly

Ferrari fans saying they should be dsq lol

[placid rivet]

That we don't know for sure. But it definitely should be investigated.

[finite beacon]

nah

the rules say the car is legal

from pre-race inspection

[placid rivet]

If it's deemed a clear breach of the regulations, I don't see why that penalty is so ridiculous. It may be a bit severe, but it's not entirely out of the question.

[vernal pecan]

how did pastry win

[finite beacon]

skill

[finite beacon]

i would say back of grid start from both cars + cars to be changed

[placid rivet]

I haven't seen any comments from the FIA on the mini-DRS. But if they say it's legal, then good job to McLaren. Then other teams should replicate it as soon as possible.

[finite beacon]

i hope redbull try to make it but it makes the rear undriveable

[safe merlin]

wait mc got a penatly for the wing?

[finite beacon]

because they mess up the making

[finite beacon]

no

ferrari fans want DSQ

[safe merlin]

ferrari 2019:

[still forge]

No, and they will get nothing for it

[placid rivet]

There probably won’t be any penalty because the FIA cleared the car to race and deemed it legal. If they find out later that they missed something, they probably can’t reverse their decision. They would probably just ban it moving forward.

[finite beacon]

eggsacly

[dim hawk]

FRANCOOOOOOO COLAPINTOOOOOOO

[manic sable]

Is Sainz both the wrong driver fired from Ferrari and the wrong driver hired for Williams?

[spring heron]

Perez hits Sainz

[jade mural]

Congrats @spring heron, you're now on lap 5

[dim hawk]

wrong hired for williams probably

[manic sable]

I'd say both are at fault for having tunnel vision while trying to get slipstream from leclerc

Or maybe a bit more on Pérez for having enough space to react and not using it

[tight vault]

Perez if more at fault if not full

He had room so...

Sainz couldnt do anything

[manic sable]

Sainz could stay in its place and not trying to squeeze the car behind that was going faster

[rocky blade]

Uh disagree

Sainz was at fault

He kept turning into Pérez like he didn't exist

But I do agree that Pérez also decided to do jackshit

Bro didn't react to Sainz coming down on him

Reaction time of a potato

[manic sable]

Like I said, both are at fault equally 🤔

[placid rivet]

He’s not obliged to move out of Carlos' way. It’s a racing incident, and both drivers could have done more to avoid it.

[ivory ginkgo]

LMAOOOOO💀💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[rocky blade]

Yeah

More on Sainz imo but you can still blame Checo a bit

[paper socket]

bro i feel so bad for checo man

it was his moment he was ahead of max he was gonna get podium

sainz could have given him more space

but he could have also moved

I think both were at fault

also hell yeah man oscar 2nd win no questions asked

no bs

[pseudo quail]

theres a flexi rear wing thing tho

[paper socket]

?

[pseudo quail]

probably up on this chat

[paper socket]

oh dang can someone explain this to me?

[placid rivet]

Mclarens DRS flap opens slightly on the straight when they dont have DRS

because the wing flexes under load

[grim egret]

Redbull might hit their budget cap now

they need to repair checo's car Again

so awesome to see them crash and burn

[placid rivet]

everyone will hit the budget cap lol. Redbull isnt the only team that has had crashes this season

if you dont hit the cap youre doing something wrong

[regal needle]

No Action Further to Carlos and Checo Incident

But Max still gonna get Penalty for Overtaking in VSC

[finite beacon]

WHAT?

MAX OVERTOKE IN VSC?

[regal needle]

Yes

Lando witness it

[stiff bough]

he only got a warning

everyone got a warning

[finite beacon]

WHEN

ON WHO

[winter forge]

yeah wasn’t gonna be a penalty due to previous precedent

[grim egret]

just A WARNING

[placid rivet]

I assume they have a dedicated budget for crashes. Only the team knows if they've exceeded that. If they have, it will start cutting into other departments.

[grim egret]

cause its max

[placid rivet]

least delusional Hamilton fan

[grim egret]

one thing for sure he is leading the world destructors championship by a big margin. he will be champion for sure

[stiff bough]

It just feels like the same shit that happened under Masi

Just another one of those "too many people broke the rules so nobody gets punished"

[hushed olive]

Lewis Performed like 2020 Kimi in this race

[stiff bough]

He was having quite a lot of problems getting the tyres to stay within temp window (overheating, not too cold)

[winter forge]

yeah its a bit dumb, hopefully they tighten the rules next year

[placid rivet]

If you actually spent 2 minutes reading the document, you’d understand why. But no, let’s just jump to conclusions without any context.

[lean blade]

A very bad weekend

[stiff bough]

yeah i lost hope on this years ago

[snow swan]

racing incident my ass

that was straight f1 lobby racing

[weary lance]

Bortoleto prolly getting his contract soon. Currently top of the standings

[placid rivet]

Not really. It had happened earlier this season with no reaction, so it would be extremely unfair to punish drivers now. That would be applying the rules inconsistently

[stiff bough]

because the stewards are really concerned about inconsistency in the way they punish people

I'm guessing the only reason it was gotten away with earlier this year is because nobody reported it, so it does add to their inconsistencies if they are missing rule breaks

[placid rivet]

They’re obviously trying to do something about it. This incident is pretty much proof of that

[stiff bough]

I feel like the most effective way of fixing this is by getting a permanent group of stewards

[placid rivet]

Sure, that would probably help. But I think it's more complicated than that. You see it in almost every sport; it's not an easy problem to fix

[rocky pumice]

couldn’t watch the GP but saw the highlights because I NEED TO PAY FOR F1 TV AGAIN😭😭😭

CURSEE YOUUU APPLE PAYYYY😭

[paper socket]

Ohh and is the fia investigating this

[paper socket]

I only watch the highlights I’m the only one here who watches f1 so they aren’t gonna pay for it 😞

[placid rivet]

idk. Dont think they have said anything about it. But there are definitely talks about it in the paddock

[grim egret]

just happy max is suffering behind the pack and not featuring at all

last year was a injustic to f1 fans

[placid rivet]

[grim egret]

im sure after austria and hungary the team sat down with max, his driving style and radio etiqquete has changed

he was never this submissive

[placid rivet]

Possibly. But it could also have been his initial reaction to the shit car. Now he might just be so fed up with it that he doesn’t care anymore

but idk

[grim egret]

is he looking elsewhere?

[finite beacon]

Aston

Martin

Mitt Newey

[snow swan]

Are the FIA investigating the McLaren rear wing

[placid rivet]

Probably more than before. But half a season with a mid car isn’t enough to abandon ship, I think. Only Max and his manager/team really know for sure.

[snow swan]

What did I tell Y'all, Mclaren will win it

and we did it!

[finite beacon]

no

[snow swan]

Salman Khan supports Mclaren!!!

[finite beacon]

same

[snow swan]

L FIA

[finite beacon]

?

[snow swan]

Illegal

[finite beacon]

they alr investigated

they deemed it legal

[grim egret]

its legal

[finite beacon]

Pre Race

[snow swan]

We’ll see

[grim egret]

max must just get ready to change from #1 to #33

[analog merlin]

but max verstappen glazer says otherwise

surely it isn't legal

[finite beacon]

if it turns out they missed smth they will tell mclaren not to use it no more

[grim egret]

i remember last year people were posting pics of the RB wing how it gains so much under DRS

how the tables have turned

[placid rivet]

Well, the Ferrari engine in 2019 also passed tests and was deemed legal. Look what happened there

[placid rivet]

I don’t remember anyone pointing out a clear reason why the redbull was so fast with DRS, though. This situation is different

[grim egret]

its okay if your memory doesnt serve u

[wide crow]

sainz or perez fault?

[hushed olive]

This means Mclaren will be a backmarker in 2025

[grim egret]

I do remember and it was ON THIS EXACT track that the accusations came out

[finite beacon]

Racing Inchidnet

sainz went left checo went right

[wide crow]

checo went right?

i swear he was going straight (unless i'm blind)

[placid rivet]

Mind telling me what? i dont remember. I just recall people saying it was fast

[finite beacon]

he moved a little to the right

[wide crow]

wait hol up @placid rivet where'd u get the vettel role

[wide crow]

damn i thought sainz was closing on him

both their faults i guess

idk how ppl are saying perez should have stopped tho... it's just side by side racing that should have happened

[placid rivet]

i dunno. Probably got it before he retired

[wide crow]

lucky...

[finite beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/yasin-sinnhartha-yasin-dogru-gif-26126483

RB for the rest of the season

[grim egret]

loool

for sure

they should bring newwy back

[stiff venture]

It's okay. Abu dahbi will find a way to give max an assist

[tender isle]

wait is the back wing legal????

[grim egret]

yes

[tender isle]

where is it posted?

[placid rivet]

noone really knows

the mini-drs hasnt been investigated

[tender isle]

@grim egret

[grim egret]

its not posted anywhere meaning its not illegal

if it was illegal they would post it

its all just butt hurt redbull fans saying the wing isnt legal

[errant arch]

Hi

[placid rivet]

after a few hours?

it may be investigated and it may not. We just dont know

[placid rivet]

just redbull fans huh?

i would say every competitor is skeptical

[outer venture]

What winf

[urban crown]

Just finished catching up

Holy fucking shit what a race

That was excellent

[waxen obsidian]

Ikrrr

[sly badger]

McLaren's rear wing had some strange flexing at the tip of the drs flaps in high speed

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/C_8LaCSNSms/?igsh=MWdzMmwzaGx2MjA0cg==

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/C_8HOiOtBiu/?igsh=Y3lsemRzdDNnMThs

[prime rose]

Piastri really secured that win, the skill he put in to defend from Leclerc was amazing

[unreal folio]

is that legal or js being ignored by the fia

[vocal lynx]

best race of the season chat?

[river bane]

The FIA will probably say it's legal

[outer venture]

Oh yeah, ferrari's did too, but it didn't close in the corners

[rotund ice]

Yay, McLaren lead construct

[carmine sparrow]

legal for now

mclaren has had these elastic wings for a bit now

fia knows about it

[outer venture]

You guys didn't see ferrari's did you

The only thing, McLarens closed on the corners, ferrari's didn't