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relies on car performance atp
my top 8 would be
oscar charles lando max carlos lewis george checo
Yesterday was so papaya rules and sticky nuts core
Checo and not max?
max is 4th
oh
with that tractor thats a good result for him tbh
Hungary and zandvoort was the main pinnacle of max’s downfall
And miami
Max’s downfall? Or the car’s?
Or because of Newey
for zandvoort it was max
"What is he doing? He gave me the position and then he race me?" - Sergio Perez 2024
"They race me so hard"
I heard that live and what a whiney bitch. I was a defender of Checo at one point but damn. Sergio how bout you concentrate on getting P2 every race or just retire. Your 2021 days are long gone.
Yep time for him to be sacked
Danny Ric has been doing better than Yuki lately
I laughed so hard when i heard this. Like what was dude expecting there
He races me?
In a race?
How dare he!
bro thought he was driving a SC
"They race me so hard" ahh comment
Maybe Pato or Daniel Suarez should take his seat for the Mexican GP.
No super license
Pato was super interested in F1 but it didn’t work out because of that
A joke. Because Sergio is not doing the job. And I was thinking of other better Mexican drivers
Just give it to Lawson and be done with it
idk who else could take it and don’t say Ricciardo
How about not the guy with 5 races
that is how you get a repeat of Albon
Daniel, Yuki, the Manifestation of David Coulthard
anyone is a better choice than throwing an inexperienced driver into the Red Bull
Sebastia- he's not coming back
The only seat Daniel needs to get is on his sofa
Or in another series maybe idk just shoo
if it means Perez follows him sure
because he has lost every reason to be in that seat
I’d prefer Ricciardo to try that Red Bull just to see if he still can drive
He alone has cost Red Bull the WCC
At least after Singapore when Perez is still bad
How many more chances does he need atp
he got one
McLaren, Vcarb, just let it go he’s done
that was the tyre test last year
Logan and mick didn’t get so much leeway
because one was vastly over his head
And they were actual beginner
and the other stayed so long through his name
Yeah and so is Ricciardo clearly
They crashed in 1 of 4 races
and racked up a damage bill large enough to buy their own F1 team
Actually I don’t think Mick even topped the destructor championship
Best option for Red Bull is put Ricciardo in after Singapore (If Perez sucks) Lawson into RB then at the end of the season they’ll know where the drivers stand
No, he did it twice
Well he was still a rookie and it’s not like it’s the only thing that matters
I’m tired of Ricciardo being around running his mouth and doing nothing get Lawson or Yuki in the RB and Hadjar in the Vcarb
it wouldn't be an issue if Red Bull had faith in Yuki
but they don't
You can’t be mad at Perez camping in the RB seat and calling for ricciardo to replace him that makes no sense
I wouldn’t put faith in Yuki
I don’t think Ricciardo should full on replace Perez for next year
Well Red Bull don't have faith in Yuki being able to maintain being Max's teammate
Unless Red Bull know he can perform
and putting a rookie in is a horrible idea
I really like Franco already so now Its a shame he can’t stay for next year too lmao
it leaves you between a rock and a hard place
stay with the driver who has costed you so many points
There is still an open Sauber seat
Only one way to find out
If Perez fucks Baku/Singapore, street circuits he’s good at he should not be in that car any longer
Ok but at what point do we accept he has because I’m tired of seeing people make allowances for him they wouldn’t make for anyone else
when he's given the chance and flops
at this point, there is literally nothing to lose in putting Ricciardo in as a test
He might have been a cute clown at some point which btw never made a great driver but now he doesn’t only suck but he’s said some very nefarious things
I’m not even convinced Ricciardo is the best option, he’s the potential safe option
He has???
he cannot do a worse job than Perez, because Perez has done a worse job than both Gasly and Albon did
yes, because the barely midfield VCARB is a good test platform
Even Carlos admitted to that McLaren being the strangest thing he's even driven
Otherwise you could argue the Williams and the Haas were too shit and Mick and Logan should have been given a chance in top teams???
and Yuki is not in contention
McLaren pre Austria 2023 was an abomination
Wtf is this about this man that has you all in a chokehold honestly
I'm not Red Bull, i would've given Yuki a chance at this point
Maybe Red Bull is fucked right now for this season because no one on both RB teams can help Max
but they don't want to, so your options are limited
Exactly and yet he‘s doing a lot better that should be demonstration enough
It’s bullshit
I’m not even selling Ricciardo into Red Bull, Perez is not delivering so try your “safe” option
Welcome to Marko's funhouse of politics
Yuki had taken what, 4 seasons to become a mid field driver
where beating your teammate easily is not enough
Maybe Marko should be the driver 
a la Gasly
Lawson performed better then Tsunoda in the 5 races he done
Lawson is high risk but he has high rewards to come with him
not really, they were evenly matched in the race they finished together
Tsunoda had 2 DNF’s and only beat Lawson once, just barely and out of the points
Yuki never started Monza, and Perez punted Tsunoda into the wall
That’s not the point though the point is you defending it like it’s fair that he’s hogged a seat and been made excuses for for what, 3-4 years now? Meanwhile F2 champions can’t get one
When Lawson got a very late call up
Get him tf out
those F2 champions don't belong to Red Bull
that is the reality of driver academies
Lawson has much more adaptability then Tsunoda
Blame Sauber for not signing Pourchaire and Aston for signing Drugovich at all
Red Bull has nothing to do with it
Second seat is cursed until Max leaves.
they already gave a chance to a former F2 champion and it went poorly
Pourchaire barely won F2, Drugovich I don’t even remember the split he won by
And also the reality of someone being given a seat because hihi friendly pr clown + nice sponsors pay check
it was quite large, he won it in Monza
That’s the reality of Daniel Ricciardo let’s at least recognise it
and the appeal of Perez is?
It’s also ridiculous to keep him
At this point, put Ricciardo in for the rest of the season
if he sucks get rid of him
It’s not enough to keep him in a WCC team
this can be the final test of "We've given you what you wanted, now show us you can do a better job or get out"
Ricciardo after Singapore, if Ricciardo sucks in the 6 races after Singapore I guess either Lawson or Tsunoda into Red Bull
You can slot Yuki into the Red Bull and fill VCARB with juniors
Tsunoda, they need experience for 2025
Hadjar needs to go somewhere and they can't lose Lawson
Tsunoda has taken to long to become the driver he is, he doesn’t have large reward gains
But that’s the thing why are people calling for Perez to be dropped already while Ricciardo glazers are still like “no but you can’t take this into account because he had the sun in his eyes and a thorn in his ass” or sth
Hadjar into RB at this point
VCARB has been a joke this year
like their strategy puts Ferrari to shame
RB have not had 1 good upgrade
he already sucks just get rid of him don’t fucking promote him
and getting a penalty because your mechanic touched your car, or you were given a shitty clutch is just laughable
i see him as a reserve driver personally
I’ve already argued that point about the vcarb being shit
As of late Ferrari is looking beautiful
That’s not a good argument
2022 ferrari
If they toss Perez AND Ricciardo then the only option with Lawson is Hadjar
Unless you want to try Iwasa
Hadjar is a complete unknown
Lawson is about the same as Tsunoda
and Red Bull don't have faith in Tsunoda
Yes! Clean house!
Daniel has held on so long because they don't trust their juniors to compete against Max
they have not gotten over losing him in the first place and wasting two rated juniors
i love oscar piastri
Lawson being the same as Tsunoda with the amount of experience between the 2 drivers says alot
well they fucked Tsunoda from the start bringing him in so early
I’ll die on the hill
Lawson is high risk high reward
Tsunoda is not
Thank Honda for that
thank Honda for him still being here
it's know that Honda came in last minute in 2023 with a higher offer to Red Bull to keep him
Without Honda Tsunoda would have been gone after 2 seasons
Yep
He does not deserve to go to Red Bull, he’s the same as Stroll, he has protection and the best will never come out of him
and frankly he will break under Max and make mistakes again
Perfect.
I still think we need to see Ricciardo in the Red Bull, they’ll lose WCC so might as well roll the dice and gamble
But is has to happen this year
Great statement.
Next year is leaving to much unknown about both teams
Perez has proven he won't cut it next year
Daniel slots in, you can bring in Lawson now to get him prepared for 2025
if he leaves you replace him with Yuki and bring in Hadjar along side a now fairly experienced Lawson
if you keep him for one more year, you place Hadjar in Super Formula and you keep Yuki at VCARB for that final year
you can then either break off Tsunoda's ties to Honda and promote him, or bring in Lawson to Red Bull
Hadjar comes in and you bring in another Red Bull junior like Lindblad
I think people are stunned with that good plan.
Just Red Bull people shocked at the loss of Perez and Ricciardo
Ricciardo was issues a double penalty from FIA
And his response was "was I a prick"
the second one wasn't even his fault
I'd need the clips again to make judge of that
Pretty sure he crashed into Hulkenberg at one point
Can't remember the other
he pushed Hulk off the track into Ascari
the second one was because his team touched the car while he was serving the penalty
I’m sayinggggg
ignore that was a message from hours ago.
anyone who shittalks vcarb strategy i insta agree with
A disgrace when Red Bulls second team is a bottom dweller. Then again I don’t want Red Bull to have a second team.
Mk
ok who is the f1 yt admin
cuz did anyone else see the leo leclerc video
give the admin a raise
🤣
where do you find these
If f1 thought me one thing its the Italian national anthem
FRATELLI D’ITALIA
who else thinks the red bull wing looked cool?
No Idea
Honestly, With Ferrari have UniCredit as their New Sponsorship, I think they will be called Scuderia Ferrari UniBank HP
Or just stayed as Scuderia Ferrari HP
Who knows
That's actually a pretty good sponsor replacement for Santander no joke.
Surely it is
that’s cool and sounds like a good new sponsor
Is perez leaving still up for discussion?
Moves made maturely 👏
No sign of debut nerves for Franco Colapinto with these overtakes in Monza ⬆️
#F1 #ItalianGP
we’ll find out over these next few races but id say maybe
Hes expected to place p2 again?
Hes averaging p6 at least so its not that bad
well RBR probs doesnt want a racer whos gonna average outta the points the first half of the season
esp if they can get their car back on track for max
the only grand slam leclerc will do at baku is into the castle barriers
do the good ol send em to super formula then be a reserve for a couple years
Yeah they seem to.have tire deg on lock right now. They could win both of the next two upcoming races.
Hello there
lmao i just changed my name on the f1 server and i was trying to see if it worked
hey :)
He is already signed for next year. Not sure what you mean
I see
Let me call something .. lando we can be world champions I said
He doesn't have it in him. He will end up.losing it to maxnor leclerc
If lando can't , with that McLaren , the. There's no way Leclerc is getting it with that Ferrari
But imagine
Abu dhabi 2024
Last lap
Safety car
Umm ferrari might be the second fastest right now. Leclerc has the experience and his engineering is improving
Max with old tyres , in first lando with new tires in second
Overtake on last corner
Didn't his contract have requirements related to the standings gap and performance related things? Wouldn't that still be included
Hahahah!!!!! Give us a 4 way shoot out. Max, lando ,leclerc and piastri
If he does shit then maybe
Atm they wouldn't hate him finishing right behind max lmao
If he wins both of the next 2 races and max finished outside of the top 6 it will sway his way quickly
Of course
Same goes for lando
Fr
Congrats @proven leaf, you're now on lap 20
Just sit the boys in the VIP lounge and let the men go to work
There are no pitting in shootouts haha

stay out
Got it
Also holy
Charleshas had 25 pole positions
And has won about 20%
About 5 wins I believe
Or was it 6
exactly, and baku is like leclercs favorite track for racing hes godly around there
What does it take for lando to win
He will race godly, but will ferrari care enough to win
SHIT THAT AINT BAD
7.75 points each race
dude ferrari is actually good now
We were saying the same for Mercedes after spa when a similar situation happened
i mean like team wise
its not shit
Tbh great strategy last 2 races
Also I wonder
Is there a clause in piastris contract
Theres a clear pattern-ish with ferrari this year
That he has to be a number one driver in the team
And that's why zac says there are 2 number 1s
Im a pretty new f1 fan so correct me on this
As piastris manager is mark webber
well overall
Maybe
every year ferrari has a good start
It's another sacrifice
absolute shit middle season
Like monaco
and then peak end of season
And Monza
the shit middle season is over
It seems like they only care in iconic races sacrificing every other race
i think the peak end of season is starting
True
they cycle is alright-shit-better
every year
Ferrari masterclass
As a McLaren fan I'm confused
but he def does
mclaren fucked up
I'm starting to get annoyed with all the mistakes from claren
Like it starts getting funny at one point
Yeah as a McLaren fan it's not looking good
Did you guys trade strategists for the old McLaren ?
💀
its not like old mclaren was much better
i think u just got the bad ones that vasseur dumped into the trashcan
The old McLaren car I mean
Fred taking Adam Norris' photo in zandvoort was hilarious lmao
Sainz for once failed in his own strategy
He tried something
Didn't work that well
But Leclerc saved his tired better
A lot
eeeexactly
Honestly the only reason this is an issue is because piastri needs to master qualifying. If piastri qualified ahead of lando it wouldn't even be an issue as lando would be fighting in the midfield
Seeing leclerc and piastri fight it out for the rest of the year wooooo!!!!!
You can even throw max in there from time to time
We’d love to, but he’s driving a Red Bull
I mean even if Lando is pole
It doesn't mean shit
Cause he is gonna fumble
Like so badly
Where is piastri in points?
Can he potentially get up to 3rd by season’s end?
So probably close but maybe not since vasseur and Ferrari haven’t made a bunch of mind numbing fumbles
And McLaren still has the tendency to do that
it could be max lec nor pia
or lec max nor pia
or nor max lec pia
or nor lec max pia
but i don’t see piastri going ahead of leclerc or norris unless ferrari falls hard
but they won’t
leclerc will win wdc 2024
Yeah definitely 
True but the only reasons people keep saying to put team orders is because lando is starting on pole.
Morning Team. Just heard Kevin Magnussen update his Post about his Race Ban
He is confirmed to return Later in Singapore
yep
mkag is gonna race in baku tho for sure
i love mevin kagnussen. so glad he’s getting a chance
Hello there
hello there
Hello there
No, He is not gonna be in Baku. He got a Race Ban to serves
He'll be back in Singapore
you missed my joke
mkag not kmag
Well that's not very Funny
guys who do u think was better in 2023? charles or carlos
i think they were the same
both robbed of a few races
wdyt
oh my god you really are callie
Carlos perhaps
Yeah if Carlos wasn’t given that bullshit penalty in Australia he would’ve been above Charles in the ranking
Perhaps there's Question why he Spin Fernando Alonso around
I thought he won that race
2023
5 second penalty
but enough to bring him from P4 to P12
Charles
Carlos was good, but Charles had a little bit of more of consistency
even with some shit going on
My brother in christ, he ran 4th all race
crashed Alonso on the final restart
and dropped to out of the points because of the penalty he was given for it
That entire race was dogwater
specially the bullshit thing of restating everybody back to their original position
I enjoyed it for the chaos idk abt yall
I stopped caring if x driver was going to have a horrible weekend
and life was good for that moment
French civil war, sergeant having one of his first sargeant classics, etc
fun
Real i enjoy chaos when charles isnt affected
The moment itself was pretty fun to watch
The rest was just like. Why
Too many ifs that can be brought in like that
Maybe if Lando didn’t want to get passed by Oscar, he should drive faster. 
Chat is is true that Kimi and Doohan have Requested for the same car number for next year?
Yeah I heard it too
12
Yea
I thought kimi would ask for 7 just to mess with kimi
Lol
Yep, and Doohan Kimi was the one who got it as he and Alpine Merc submitted first
We as of now don't know what Kimi's Doohan's number will be
Oh wait
Is it confirmed or is it yet another Chinese whisper?
Because I've been getting rumours that Kimi got it cuz Mercedes submitted it first
I got it the wrong way around
💀
Joever
Fr
Carlando
Christian Horner said the Poor Development of Red Bull is not related to Adrian Newey departure from the Team
So it must be related to something else
Some that has impacted the Team
Like something called hitting the performance ceiling of your car
Like if you bring New Upgrades that Fail, The Team could have Improved something Newer
Kimi has said he would take 7 potentially if he can't have 12 apparently
I'd have to find the article again tho to double check
hi chat
doohan's is 69
not even joking
people try not to fall for a troll account challenge (impossible)
wait that's a troll account?
yes
bruh
i fell for it lmao
same
I saw that and I thought that was actually gonna be his number
fr
werent there rumors that onlyfans will sponsor Alpine soon too?
yeah lol
lmao yea
Hi guys
finally Kalle Rovanperä has made his jump to F1
he just changed his passport and gave himself eyebrows is all
it's a troll account 💀
i found that out not even minutes after sending that image
Ohk
Baku prediction: norris, leclerc , piastri
nahh real baku prediction: driver, driver, driver
Real
Stroll win Sargaent comes back and gets 2nd and 3rd for Perez
Aston Martin looks set to announce Adrian Newey ahead of the #F1 #AzerbaijanGP 😱
Full story ⬇️
oh my days
So Thursday we will official hear, see the news.
Real or Riyal?
finally, alonso and newey collab
alonso 33 incoming
Yeah
It was between "Atleast this is kinda fun to watch"
But it was also so dumb to watch everything the FIA did
Do people still think sainz is better than leclerc
Who tf thinks that?
Having a better start to the season doesn't mean that you are better than your teammate
If that'd be the case then Stroll was better than Pérez in 2020
alonso 33rd.
bait
Nice bait there
alright.
Everyone knew where he was going months ago 😅
notapolarbear muted ariana_frrr for 2 hours. Reason: told you not to bait
.unmute 1184516226840526931 mb just don’t do it again ok 🧐
Successfully unmuted ariana_frrr
get tricked
They confused me 😭
bro 😭
Muting for baiting is crazy
😭 🙏
Wait what happened now
@stiff venture
oh yeah they dont like us having fun in here.
Crazy
yippee, now Aston Martin can disappoint us even more!
😂
leclerc win in baku guys alonso said himself ferrari will be best in monza (yes) baku and singspore
and alonso
is yes
when did he say that
in interview

That's shit baiting/posting
I told them not to it’s fine for now
😭
3 win in a row
hoping
alonso himself said ferrari is the team to beat for the next few
and he was right for monza
THIS IS LECLERCS SEASON
He already warned they’d be slow in Baku tbh so don’t hope too much
shouldnt ferrari also be good in mexico?
NOW OR NEVER
now not ever
The season is already halfway done 😭
What will you do when what you say doesn't happen?
it will happen
odd timing!
but the fight for p2 is far from over!!!!!!!!!
will leclerc be able to snatch it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he's not that far behind!!!!!!!!!!!!
I admire your confidence in Leclerc
But did he say it’s going to involve Ferrari?
it will happen, leclerc comeback
“after emotional win” so
he use to be super nagative so im all for this change
ill read and grt back to u
everyone loves an underdog story
but leclerc's bad run after his monaco win didn't help
I've learned not to expect anything, so I'm less disappointed and sad when Ferrari gets it all wrong.
hmmm... I use to think this but then I realize I can be hyped for the days leading up to a race and if I am sad by the results I am sad for a day or two then go right back to being hyped for the next one.
Maybe I should be more like you from this point of view, I'm just traumatized by the Ferrari of 2022 where they disappointed one race yes and the other as well.
this 🥂
i understand
in every sport there will be disappointments, but ur passion or liking for it should triumph
So, talking about Baku... what are the predictions?
i can't say anything until practice
yeah same honestly
real
there are plot twists every weekend
You can at least say that Leclerc will be in form given the last few years in Baku.
absolutely
true but otherwise
no clue
Yeah, this year doing predictions is impossible
what a first season to start watching f1
literally
checo win
Points for Ollie
Norris win
even Checo himself does not believe in it
Idk how much pro-Haas is baku.. i don't think too much really
checo p5
haha hey sometimes athletes come alive from the energy of tghe crowd
or is it though
It's not Rawe Ceek

i said sometimes
ahh mb
Well Hamilton won in Silverstone thanks also to his huge fanbase supporting him

this is true
you can make the arguement it helped leclerc at monza
In fact, I said that he won ALSO for the support of his fanbase, but at the base is the performance of the car on the track.
ahh k
when's the race? this weekend or next?
Next
Shit, i wanna see Ricciardo in this year Mclaren now
Os'gone Piastri 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
oliver bearman
no we dont
???
McLaren ruined Daniel so no to both of those
No piastri and we would be like red bull with ver and per
Lando winning and fighting for podiums on the regular
Daniel struggling to get past P6
We wouldnt be fighting for constructors
Piastri brings a lot of consistency to the team that it needs, especially with red bull weakened right now
Daniel is good occasionally but its the consistency that matters
Daniel ^
Piastri v
Granted he has a way better car
But he as of late hasnt been getting P2 then P7
Also hes not a big fan of mclaren’s management style and he himself said he lost himself when he was at the team
looks like someone mad
22nd in a 20 drivers championship
Zhou and Valtteri could get points
if they weren't driving john deere tractors of a car
And the team wouldn't be serious bottlers at the same time.
#POWRUT2025
Gp2 engine
we believe
wait
yeah
next year is our year
This year is our year.🔥
Lando and Max are too busy fighting each other, Charles comes out of nowhere, joins the title fight and wins it.
the great Ferrari masterplan
100% bulletproof
ferrari strategies
Lando is 62 points away from Max, Charles is only 24 further points away from Lando, so if Lando is in contention Charles is in contention as well.
Real
max is worried ab his car and title, mclaren is struggle busing, charles is weasling in!
Jaja what is this title
The last 10 races Perez has failed to finish within P5 or better(?)...two races resulted in P18 and one P17?
bro even with verstappens car hes still beating perez
and dragging the maximum out of that car
perez has been doin bottom 10 qualis
and christian says the car was bad before adrian left
sure
but not this bad
the fact that perez compares his performances with verstappen after one good performance right behind verstappen is actually disgusting
I think what perez meant was "Ya'll were simply blaming me while max is striggling the same way as me right now"
we all know their straightline speed is a barndoor
like last year merc
yea
cause they copied merc design from last year
mhm mhm
they really thought they could cook with mercs flawed design
The pink botched Mercedes 💀
fr
they were 6 tenths off
😭
in monza quali
not surprised their having balances and oversteer and understeer problems as the w14 suffered with the same
What happened from Miami to Emilia for Checo?
Checo sucks in Europe
fr
His specialty is non-European street circuits so he should be good in Baku and Singapore
And after the world sees he sucks at both of those goodbye Perez (If I was a smart TP)
it’s only gonna get better for us guys
ferrari will be the car to beat through singapore
and then we’ll fight mclaren and keep redbull lower
this is our year
leclerc wdc 💪
Under dog fights
Last lap battle in Abu dhabi
Leclerc and lando
Lando we can be world champions I said
Well
He said the thing
Please tell me King of the Steets is real 💀
soooo charles does have a chance at wdc? IF FERRARI DOES EVERYTHING RIGHT while mclaren is busy with infighting and redbull w car issues
?
YESSIR
MANIFESTING THIS
fk Lando, idk i used to like him but his recent behaviour has been,.... what people call - icky
Yup…
i do like piastri more
but lando is not championship material
and he cannot disrespect others who have earned so much honour
didn't enjoy him dissing seb, didnt like him dissing sir hamilton, and felt gutted on his remarks on max, and im not even max's fan
Yeah it screams entitlement
he dissed seb??
- his home race
The one where he got greedy on the first corner first lap and got himself retired?
he has a large fanbase in his home country and everyone literally treats him like a king
besides that i think he’ll do well
lando dissed seb???
seb is such a sweet dude man. wtf
i wasnt even around for seb but he seems like legit such a class act
meh, it was during a grill the grid episode where seb listed every single world champion in the correct order
"no offense, but he should focus on driving"
damn
ehh at least it's been obvious to people paying attention
it's only become more public the more people look on him to fight for the title
his mental attitude isn't there which is something he's been criticised for for a long time
Oscar has the attitude, but not the experience
it's a weird dichotomy
this is what i think too
but i feel osco is gonna catch up pretty quick
but yeah idk i dont keep eyes on mclaren too much
next year or by the end of this year
like lando has a head start but not that much of a head start.
this is a driver who while getting more testing than most, didn't get the same level of pre-season experience most rookies did
like he completed some test sessions with Alpine, that's about it
his only pre-season experience with McLaren was the young drivers test and Bahrain 2023
it was always going to take him time to catch up and he's starting to
it's just his consistency is off and certain tracks are still catching him out
Spain for instance
there's no real other explanation for his pace there other than he doesn't suit it
i think the monza start kind of proved that he's got the skill to surpass lando, so
yeah i'm really looking forward to how things go for him
well he knows Lando will be overly cautious, even more so than normal
definitely one of my faves on the grid atm so
if he can show the team his true potential prior to next year, he sees it as a chance to cement the team in their belief of who can win the title next year
beyond multiple DNF's for both of them, his chance of beating both Lando and Max is ultra slim
next year is different
He'll give the team the WCC that they want; he couldn't care less about Lando winning the WDC, doesn't affect him
honestly, as he should.
but if he proves to the team that "look, i am faster, i can make better starts, i have the same if not better race pace than Lando, i'm aggressive and i can overtake"
It helps his chances of the team focusing on him to win the title next year, give him the upgrades first and follow his car development
Like if the team want Lando the win the title and he just ignores their orders, that becomes a problem
i actually love this kinda stuff. like driver politics and stuff
for sure.
if they really are backing their equal number 1's in the team, then Oscar disappears in front of Lando, that's his problem, not the team
Like you have Buxton and Sky saying how disappointed they are in McLaren and how they should be doing better
like no, they have said from day 1 they are both number 1's and equal, and from equality comes letting them race each other
yeah it may cost Lando the title, but that's his problem for making too make mistakes
the team's rule is you don't hit each other and you don't make each other lose points
the fact the one stop worked for Ferrari was impressive
Piastri only came within 3 seconds of him by the end and was impeeded first by Sainz and then traffic
people just won't give Ferrari credit for making it work because it's easier to shit on McLaren for not making Lando the golden boy
honestly yeah respect to sainz for playing the team game and stalling mclaren as long as he could
British bias
honestly at this point
i have to say it is
like they are so agro about McLaren not giving Norris every single point necessary and saying how Piastri's move was too aggresive and risked everything
like are you fr?
weren't you people all complaining during the Mercedes era there wasn't enough hard racing anymore?
I know right!!!!!! Hahaha
Their hatred for max has blinded them
Imagine if Neweys only demand to join AM was they got rid of Lance
He wouldn’t be hired
yeah no
Lawrence would rather sacrifice 10,000 people than get rid of his son
he really thinks he can win a world title if he gives him a good enough car
bet his plan is to get a driver to help develop the car and team, and then ditch em so Lance is Number 1
I mean that’s what he is doing now with the fossil. He is lance’s tutor
Vettel was Stage One, Alonso is Stage Two
maybe he is trying to lure Max over as Stage 3
Papa stroll trying to rival Ferrari on retiring past champs
so yall think mclaren will take the lead in WCC in the nextt GP?
"Alonso's tapping out, who is it-"
"IT'S MIKA HAKKINEN ENTERING THE RING"
Who
I think Ferrari should be strong there. Not sure
also the new odds for redbull winning WCC on bet99 are wild +400
Yeah, since they're only at 8 points, I think so.
yea i think itll be very interesting
yea its looking real likely
but you think mclaren will overall win WCC?
i think so
i don't think Ferrari have the package to routinely challenge McLaren
It's a close fight between Ferrari and Mclaren
max will win WDC. next year if mclaren dominence continues, theyll win both
Congrats @thorn abyss, you're now on lap 15
it'll just be a question of who
Doing predictions this year is impossible also...
I mean Ferrari started as second best to Red Bull
i agree on this tbh, also ferrari strat's are hit or miss
so they gained a lot of points and have slowly been slipping down the order
imo itll be norris
their massive points haul mostly comes from the start of the season
i mean we'll have to see
lmfao facts, before the year started everyone was deadset on max winning all 24 races
Piastri will keep improving, it's just a matter of how much
also very true
they have really really strong drivers
perez needs to go man
i will be surprised if he lasts beyond Singapore
realistically they need to can him and possibly Ricciardo
there is no point in keeping Perez so you might as well put Ricciardo in the Red Bull
give him his last possible chance
and then either keep him for next year or let him go
Lawson would get a go anyway at VCARB
i don't have faith in that pressure cooker enviroment of placing a rookie straight into it
you are merely asking him to sink or swim and experience has shown it's mostly sink
Well, the races in favor of Ferrari are still 3, if we don't put other races where Ferrari has gone well anyway, as in Abu-Dhabi.
ah true 
if you get rid of Daniel, give Yuki the chance he deserves
he's done more than enough, if you're only going to keep him for one more year because of Honda
put him at the main team
Checo is signed for next year
Daniel came back because Red Bull were looking for a way out with Perez
if you don't at least give him a try there, there was no point in signing him back anyway
Red Bull put a million and one clauses in his contract
if they could prove to the company back in Austria it would be worth it, they will pay it
horner has a big crush on daniel
mans does not want to let him go
yes, and everything indicades he's won the power battle at the team
he is in control
Isn't him signed until the end of this season?
end of 2026
which is unfortunate
No he signed a new contract for two years. He technically is signed until end of 2026
Oh, they don't to win the WCC ever again
i always knew the second they had competition they would be in trouble
with all the clauses in his contract im sure theres ways to release him early
To be fair that was some asymmetric confidence
they should've made the hard decision at the end of last year and dumped him
He got 2nd in wdc
the rumours atleast were that liberty media pressured RB to keep perez cause of his disney+ documentary
through the dominant car, not his personal performances
he scored what, 25 points compared to Oscar's 180 in the last 7 or 8 races prior to the summer break
ever since Monaco hes been just bad
nah Imola
Imagine he wins Baku
i will laugh if he does
The way f1 fans are they will be saying they believed in him all along and ricc should be sacked
honestly if it was Red Bull 1-2 with perez ahead
Horner is absolutely telling him to swap or get sacked
and then everyone will complain about Mclaren again
Probably
they just need to bring back the 2023 car and just wrap it in 2024 livery
Checo is fine until the opponents get into the gap between him and Verstappen... which happens after the first races of the season.
theyll be valid
liam lawson did just test the RB20
like Verstappen is holding on by the skin of his teeth
they will need every single point
i still think danny ricc needs a chance in RB
Poor max. He had to tell his team to wake up or he will just stay home haha
i think it was either an older AT or the VCARB in Imola over the summer break
yea, perez also just hella lacking
No
if they don't, there was no point in bringing him back
dude was consistantly getting eliminated in q1 and a2
the entire point of him being there was to replace Checo if he performed badly
Money, I think he is the reason they got visa cash app name
that had more to do with Red Bull themselves
the team wasn't that profitable
they might have used Ricciardo to sell it to the sponsors
but it was Red Bull wanting the team to generate more money
like there were a lot of rumours about selling to Andretti or making a Honda works team with AT
scoring near the bottom of the constructors just wasn't good enough
it's also why VCARB takes use of a lot of RBR's facilities
instead of making their own stuff
Well that’s what they get for hiring Ricardo
this was prior to Ricciardo
post ground effect regulations the team went from 6th in the constructors to 9th
the only team that scored worse than them in 22 was Williams
Haha doesn’t help they had albon
they clawed up to 8th in 23 but they wasted the early part of the season with De Vries
and then Daniel broke his hand from something out of his control
Why is the grid filled with rbr failures?
because Red Bull give drivers a chance
can't really be said for most other academies
like at least Red Bull has given an oppotunity to a lot more people
Well it was also a new beginning with new cars, it's fine if they're struggling at first.
How many are there right now? Ricardo, gasly, albon, sainz… who else?
all current RB/Former RB drivers are: Ricciardo, Max, Sainz, Gasly, Tsunoda
Albon
ferrari had the chance to grab newey but couldnt match the bag aston martin
threw at him
more than a quarter of the grid comes from their academy
I mean already they spending half a billion on ham already?
just spend the other half bill and get newey tbh
going to Ferrari has more issues than just money
you would have to move Newey and his family to Italy
which has been the main reason he hasn't wanted to go to Ferrari
ahhh yeaa that is a good point
When your opponent offers 90% of the budget cap of a year... it's not that you can offer more if you've already taken someone like Hamilton.
hamilton's salary isnt in the budget cap
Yeah, well I also think that Newey's sons are now old enough to support themselves, so this excuse applies to a certain extent.
drivers salary are excluded
one more thing they allowed him to stay at his place but he wanted to entirely changed the leaderships in the department which the senior management vetoed
i think ferrari do tbh
cota will be a better race to see
at a track Ferrari traditionally invest a lot into trying to win
but i think ferrari will be the team to beat for baku and singapore
leclerc is godly around baku
and the ferrari package is ideal for singapore
i think ferrari has a shot at wcc
and who knows if papaya rules keeps fucking em up wdc might enter the cards for leclerc
i think it will
people will forget lando and max title fight and the true title fight will begin between leclerc and max
he's nearly 90 points behind Max
if Lando cannot beat Max, sure as shit Leclerc cannot in a car that is not an all-rounder like the McLaren
leclerc will be past lando in the wdc by singapore
the Ferrari excels in a straight line and around slow speed corners
if they slapped on a high downforce package, Singapore might work for them, as would Mexico, Abu Dhabi and Baku
it still ignores the fact there are areas the McLaren just does better
and that you also have to rely on Sainz being up there with Leclerc consistantly
Qatar last year Leclerc was way behind Max and the McLaren's
both the Mercs and McLaren's were super fast at Cota
Las Vegas more had to do with Safety cars and the extreme cold temps
i agree tbh
Qatar, Cota, Brazil and Abu Dhabi, the McLaren's will be up there
that's at least half the races remaining
if he overhauled 86 points from Max
baku is real singapore is real mexico abu dhabi and i think vegas is real
he would have overcomed the largest championship gap in history
im delusional
Real
and optimistic
even with the modern points systems, it is a massive long shot
this season is unpredictable who knows
it's that unpredictable that i wouldn't be surprised if Red Bull found something and came back
i mean like lets say ferrari is really good this season and leclerc wins those races
i think this papaya bullshit will let piastri and norris split the amount of races they have to win
thats one thing i dont see happening
redbull just doesnt have the budget
or the abilityt the concept is literally fucked
yeah, it's called crossing out the 19 with a sharpee and writing 20 next to it lol
huh
it's a joke about them bringing last year's car
oh
which i don't know what the legalities of that is
prob very not allowed
i'm sure with some work it is possible
no i dont think so

