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still forge
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Baku has a hefty kerb usage

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One of the things the RB20 hates

winged dagger
outer venture
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Yesterday was so papaya rules and sticky nuts core

winged dagger
charred mantle
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oh

winged dagger
charred mantle
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And miami

coarse obsidian
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Or because of Newey

charred mantle
tawdry patrol
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"What is he doing? He gave me the position and then he race me?" - Sergio Perez 2024

still forge
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"They race me so hard"

coarse obsidian
winged dagger
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Danny Ric has been doing better than Yuki lately

compact cove
still forge
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He races me?
In a race?
How dare he!

twin gazelle
craggy zenith
coarse obsidian
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Maybe Pato or Daniel Suarez should take his seat for the Mexican GP.

thin berry
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No super license

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Pato was super interested in F1 but it didn’t work out because of that

coarse obsidian
thin berry
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Just give it to Lawson and be done with it

craggy zenith
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why?

thin berry
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idk who else could take it and don’t say Ricciardo

craggy zenith
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How about not the guy with 5 races

craggy zenith
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that is how you get a repeat of Albon

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Daniel, Yuki, the Manifestation of David Coulthard

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anyone is a better choice than throwing an inexperienced driver into the Red Bull

thin berry
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Ok so who though

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Nah not Daniel

craggy zenith
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Sebastia- he's not coming back

thin berry
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The only seat Daniel needs to get is on his sofa

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Or in another series maybe idk just shoo

craggy zenith
craggy zenith
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because he has lost every reason to be in that seat

wet sequoia
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I’d prefer Ricciardo to try that Red Bull just to see if he still can drive

craggy zenith
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He alone has cost Red Bull the WCC

wet sequoia
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At least after Singapore when Perez is still bad

thin berry
craggy zenith
thin berry
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McLaren, Vcarb, just let it go he’s done

craggy zenith
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that was the tyre test last year

thin berry
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Logan and mick didn’t get so much leeway

craggy zenith
thin berry
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And they were actual beginner

craggy zenith
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and the other stayed so long through his name

thin berry
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Yeah and so is Ricciardo clearly

wet sequoia
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They crashed in 1 of 4 races

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and racked up a damage bill large enough to buy their own F1 team

thin berry
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Actually I don’t think Mick even topped the destructor championship

wet sequoia
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Best option for Red Bull is put Ricciardo in after Singapore (If Perez sucks) Lawson into RB then at the end of the season they’ll know where the drivers stand

craggy zenith
thin berry
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Well he was still a rookie and it’s not like it’s the only thing that matters

craggy zenith
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Magnussen also easily outscored him

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and Hulk has proven Kmag isn't the best

thin berry
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I’m tired of Ricciardo being around running his mouth and doing nothing get Lawson or Yuki in the RB and Hadjar in the Vcarb

craggy zenith
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but they don't

thin berry
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You can’t be mad at Perez camping in the RB seat and calling for ricciardo to replace him that makes no sense

wet sequoia
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I wouldn’t put faith in Yuki

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I don’t think Ricciardo should full on replace Perez for next year

craggy zenith
wet sequoia
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Unless Red Bull know he can perform

craggy zenith
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and putting a rookie in is a horrible idea

vernal holly
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I really like Franco already so now Its a shame he can’t stay for next year too lmao

craggy zenith
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it leaves you between a rock and a hard place

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stay with the driver who has costed you so many points

wet sequoia
craggy zenith
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or go with your old driver who may find his form again

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or just stay the way he is

wet sequoia
craggy zenith
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at that point why not put Daniel in

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at worst, he does the same job as Perez rn

wet sequoia
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If Perez fucks Baku/Singapore, street circuits he’s good at he should not be in that car any longer

thin berry
craggy zenith
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at this point, there is literally nothing to lose in putting Ricciardo in as a test

thin berry
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He might have been a cute clown at some point which btw never made a great driver but now he doesn’t only suck but he’s said some very nefarious things

wet sequoia
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I’m not even convinced Ricciardo is the best option, he’s the potential safe option

thin berry
craggy zenith
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he cannot do a worse job than Perez, because Perez has done a worse job than both Gasly and Albon did

craggy zenith
thin berry
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Lando and Yuki both kicked his ass which should never have happened

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Yes???

craggy zenith
thin berry
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Otherwise you could argue the Williams and the Haas were too shit and Mick and Logan should have been given a chance in top teams???

craggy zenith
wet sequoia
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McLaren pre Austria 2023 was an abomination

thin berry
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Wtf is this about this man that has you all in a chokehold honestly

craggy zenith
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I'm not Red Bull, i would've given Yuki a chance at this point

coarse obsidian
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Maybe Red Bull is fucked right now for this season because no one on both RB teams can help Max

craggy zenith
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but they don't want to, so your options are limited

thin berry
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It’s bullshit

wet sequoia
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I’m not even selling Ricciardo into Red Bull, Perez is not delivering so try your “safe” option

craggy zenith
wet sequoia
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Yuki had taken what, 4 seasons to become a mid field driver

craggy zenith
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where beating your teammate easily is not enough

coarse obsidian
craggy zenith
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a la Gasly

wet sequoia
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Lawson performed better then Tsunoda in the 5 races he done

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Lawson is high risk but he has high rewards to come with him

craggy zenith
wet sequoia
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Tsunoda had 2 DNF’s and only beat Lawson once, just barely and out of the points

craggy zenith
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Yuki never started Monza, and Perez punted Tsunoda into the wall

thin berry
wet sequoia
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When Lawson got a very late call up

thin berry
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Get him tf out

craggy zenith
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that is the reality of driver academies

wet sequoia
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Lawson has much more adaptability then Tsunoda

craggy zenith
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Blame Sauber for not signing Pourchaire and Aston for signing Drugovich at all

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Red Bull has nothing to do with it

coarse obsidian
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Second seat is cursed until Max leaves.

craggy zenith
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they already gave a chance to a former F2 champion and it went poorly

wet sequoia
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Pourchaire barely won F2, Drugovich I don’t even remember the split he won by

thin berry
craggy zenith
thin berry
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That’s the reality of Daniel Ricciardo let’s at least recognise it

craggy zenith
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and the appeal of Perez is?

thin berry
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Same

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I’m not defending Perez don’t get it wrong lmao

wet sequoia
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Perez is “popular” in the Americas

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Also sponsors

thin berry
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It’s also ridiculous to keep him

craggy zenith
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At this point, put Ricciardo in for the rest of the season

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if he sucks get rid of him

wet sequoia
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It’s not enough to keep him in a WCC team

craggy zenith
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this can be the final test of "We've given you what you wanted, now show us you can do a better job or get out"

wet sequoia
craggy zenith
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You can slot Yuki into the Red Bull and fill VCARB with juniors

craggy zenith
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Hadjar needs to go somewhere and they can't lose Lawson

wet sequoia
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Tsunoda has taken to long to become the driver he is, he doesn’t have large reward gains

thin berry
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But that’s the thing why are people calling for Perez to be dropped already while Ricciardo glazers are still like “no but you can’t take this into account because he had the sun in his eyes and a thorn in his ass” or sth

wet sequoia
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Hadjar into RB at this point

craggy zenith
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like their strategy puts Ferrari to shame

wet sequoia
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RB have not had 1 good upgrade

thin berry
craggy zenith
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and getting a penalty because your mechanic touched your car, or you were given a shitty clutch is just laughable

undone bane
thin berry
coarse obsidian
thin berry
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That’s not a good argument

craggy zenith
wet sequoia
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Unless you want to try Iwasa

craggy zenith
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Hadjar is a complete unknown

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Lawson is about the same as Tsunoda

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and Red Bull don't have faith in Tsunoda

craggy zenith
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Daniel has held on so long because they don't trust their juniors to compete against Max

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they have not gotten over losing him in the first place and wasting two rated juniors

modest vapor
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i love oscar piastri

wet sequoia
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Lawson being the same as Tsunoda with the amount of experience between the 2 drivers says alot

craggy zenith
wet sequoia
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I’ll die on the hill

Lawson is high risk high reward

Tsunoda is not

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Thank Honda for that

craggy zenith
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it's know that Honda came in last minute in 2023 with a higher offer to Red Bull to keep him

wet sequoia
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Without Honda Tsunoda would have been gone after 2 seasons

craggy zenith
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Yep

wet sequoia
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He does not deserve to go to Red Bull, he’s the same as Stroll, he has protection and the best will never come out of him

craggy zenith
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and frankly he will break under Max and make mistakes again

wet sequoia
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I still think we need to see Ricciardo in the Red Bull, they’ll lose WCC so might as well roll the dice and gamble

craggy zenith
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Either they keep him for 2025 or he leaves

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you have nothing to lose

wet sequoia
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But is has to happen this year

wet sequoia
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Next year is leaving to much unknown about both teams

craggy zenith
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Perez has proven he won't cut it next year

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Daniel slots in, you can bring in Lawson now to get him prepared for 2025

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if he leaves you replace him with Yuki and bring in Hadjar along side a now fairly experienced Lawson

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if you keep him for one more year, you place Hadjar in Super Formula and you keep Yuki at VCARB for that final year

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you can then either break off Tsunoda's ties to Honda and promote him, or bring in Lawson to Red Bull

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Hadjar comes in and you bring in another Red Bull junior like Lindblad

coarse obsidian
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I think people are stunned with that good plan.

winter rivet
wet sequoia
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Just Red Bull people shocked at the loss of Perez and Ricciardo

winter rivet
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Ricciardo was issues a double penalty from FIA

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And his response was "was I a prick"

craggy zenith
winter rivet
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Pretty sure he crashed into Hulkenberg at one point

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Can't remember the other

craggy zenith
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he pushed Hulk off the track into Ascari

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the second one was because his team touched the car while he was serving the penalty

vernal holly
wooden kettle
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ignore that was a message from hours ago.

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anyone who shittalks vcarb strategy i insta agree with

coarse obsidian
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A disgrace when Red Bulls second team is a bottom dweller. Then again I don’t want Red Bull to have a second team.

river palm
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Mk

minor breach
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ok who is the f1 yt admin

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cuz did anyone else see the leo leclerc video

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give the admin a raise

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🤣

carmine sparrow
cosmic vapor
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leclerc win in abku

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baku

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grand slam

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im calling it

lucid parrot
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If f1 thought me one thing its the Italian national anthem

barren bronze
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FRATELLI D’ITALIA

mossy reef
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who else thinks the red bull wing looked cool?

regal needle
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No Idea

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Honestly, With Ferrari have UniCredit as their New Sponsorship, I think they will be called Scuderia Ferrari UniBank HP

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Or just stayed as Scuderia Ferrari HP

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Who knows

barren charm
regal needle
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Surely it is

hexed zephyr
hexed drum
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Is perez leaving still up for discussion?

unreal folio
hexed drum
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Hes averaging p6 at least so its not that bad

unreal folio
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well RBR probs doesnt want a racer whos gonna average outta the points the first half of the season

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esp if they can get their car back on track for max

spiral gorge
stiff bough
stiff venture
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Hello there

sterile acorn
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lmao i just changed my name on the f1 server and i was trying to see if it worked

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hey :)

stiff venture
proven leaf
stiff venture
proven leaf
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But imagine

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Abu dhabi 2024

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Last lap

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Safety car

stiff venture
proven leaf
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Max with old tyres , in first lando with new tires in second

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Overtake on last corner

hexed drum
stiff venture
proven leaf
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Charles need on average 10.75 points to beat max for wdc

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There's an 86 point gap

proven leaf
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Atm they wouldn't hate him finishing right behind max lmao

stiff venture
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If he wins both of the next 2 races and max finished outside of the top 6 it will sway his way quickly

stiff venture
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Yeah that's why I want a 4 way shootout in yas marina

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Hahaha

proven leaf
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Fr

jade muralBOT
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Congrats @proven leaf, you're now on lap 20

proven leaf
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Damn

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20 laps on these mediums

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Do I pit ?

stiff venture
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Just sit the boys in the VIP lounge and let the men go to work

stiff venture
proven leaf
hexed zephyr
proven leaf
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Also holy

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Charleshas had 25 pole positions

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And has won about 20%

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About 5 wins I believe

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Or was it 6

cosmic vapor
hexed drum
hexed drum
cosmic vapor
proven leaf
cosmic vapor
hexed drum
cosmic vapor
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its not shit

proven leaf
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Tbh great strategy last 2 races

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Also I wonder

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Is there a clause in piastris contract

hexed drum
proven leaf
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That he has to be a number one driver in the team

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And that's why zac says there are 2 number 1s

hexed drum
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Im a pretty new f1 fan so correct me on this

proven leaf
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As piastris manager is mark webber

cosmic vapor
proven leaf
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Maybe

cosmic vapor
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every year ferrari has a good start

proven leaf
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It's another sacrifice

cosmic vapor
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absolute shit middle season

proven leaf
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Like monaco

cosmic vapor
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and then peak end of season

proven leaf
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And Monza

cosmic vapor
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the shit middle season is over

hexed drum
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It seems like they only care in iconic races sacrificing every other race

cosmic vapor
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i think the peak end of season is starting

cosmic vapor
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every year

proven leaf
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Ferrari masterclass

cosmic vapor
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so like

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i think leclerc has a shot

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a small one

proven leaf
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As a McLaren fan I'm confused

cosmic vapor
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but he def does

cosmic vapor
proven leaf
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I'm starting to get annoyed with all the mistakes from claren

cosmic vapor
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like

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its so funny

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that its not ferrari for once

proven leaf
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Like it starts getting funny at one point

hexed drum
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Yeah as a McLaren fan it's not looking good

proven leaf
hexed drum
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💀

cosmic vapor
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i think u just got the bad ones that vasseur dumped into the trashcan

proven leaf
cosmic vapor
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oh

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yeah

proven leaf
cosmic vapor
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but our strategy is lowk fire now

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no longer one fire

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now its fire

proven leaf
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Sainz for once failed in his own strategy

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He tried something

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Didn't work that well

cosmic vapor
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leclerc did his strategy

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but better

proven leaf
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Sainz strategy was better

cosmic vapor
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yes he did

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no

proven leaf
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But Leclerc saved his tired better

cosmic vapor
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leclerc had older hards and pulled it off

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sainz kinda fell back

proven leaf
hexed drum
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Yeah

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Letting both mclarens take the poduim?

proven leaf
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The thing is

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McLaren should start issuing team orders

cosmic vapor
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eeeexactly

stiff venture
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Seeing leclerc and piastri fight it out for the rest of the year wooooo!!!!!

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You can even throw max in there from time to time

karmic token
lofty plinth
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It doesn't mean shit

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Cause he is gonna fumble

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Like so badly

fervent oar
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Where is piastri in points?

lofty plinth
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4th

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Below charles

fervent oar
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Can he potentially get up to 3rd by season’s end?

lofty plinth
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Yeah

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If Ferrari pulls a Ferrari

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Definitely

fervent oar
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So probably close but maybe not since vasseur and Ferrari haven’t made a bunch of mind numbing fumbles

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And McLaren still has the tendency to do that

cosmic vapor
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it could be max lec nor pia

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or lec max nor pia

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or nor max lec pia

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or nor lec max pia

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but i don’t see piastri going ahead of leclerc or norris unless ferrari falls hard

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but they won’t

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leclerc will win wdc 2024

distant leaf
stiff venture
regal needle
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Morning Team. Just heard Kevin Magnussen update his Post about his Race Ban

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He is confirmed to return Later in Singapore

wooden kettle
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yep

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mkag is gonna race in baku tho for sure

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i love mevin kagnussen. so glad he’s getting a chance

wooden kettle
stiff venture
regal needle
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He'll be back in Singapore

wooden kettle
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mkag not kmag

regal needle
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Well that's not very Funny

winged dagger
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guys who do u think was better in 2023? charles or carlos

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i think they were the same

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both robbed of a few races

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wdyt

patent crystal
regal needle
winged dagger
regal needle
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Perhaps there's Question why he Spin Fernando Alonso around

winged dagger
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5 second penalty

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but enough to bring him from P4 to P12

rocky blade
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Carlos was good, but Charles had a little bit of more of consistency

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even with some shit going on

rocky blade
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crashed Alonso on the final restart

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and dropped to out of the points because of the penalty he was given for it

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That entire race was dogwater

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specially the bullshit thing of restating everybody back to their original position

patent crystal
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I enjoyed it for the chaos idk abt yall

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I stopped caring if x driver was going to have a horrible weekend

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and life was good for that moment

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French civil war, sergeant having one of his first sargeant classics, etc

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fun

kindred cedar
uneven pawn
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The rest was just like. Why

pseudo quail
karmic token
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Maybe if Lando didn’t want to get passed by Oscar, he should drive faster. webbah

twin gazelle
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Chat is is true that Kimi and Doohan have Requested for the same car number for next year?

twin gazelle
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Yea

lofty plinth
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I thought kimi would ask for 7 just to mess with kimi

twin gazelle
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Lol

narrow garnet
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We as of now don't know what Kimi's Doohan's number will be

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Oh wait

twin gazelle
narrow garnet
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I got it the wrong way around

twin gazelle
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💀

narrow garnet
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Joever

twin gazelle
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Fr

mystic marten
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Carlando

regal needle
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Christian Horner said the Poor Development of Red Bull is not related to Adrian Newey departure from the Team

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So it must be related to something else

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Some that has impacted the Team

stiff bough
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Like something called hitting the performance ceiling of your car

regal needle
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Like if you bring New Upgrades that Fail, The Team could have Improved something Newer

past dune
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I'd have to find the article again tho to double check

echo igloo
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hi chat

mortal prairie
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not even joking

cyan saffron
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people try not to fall for a troll account challenge (impossible)

mortal prairie
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wait that's a troll account?

cyan saffron
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yes

mortal prairie
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bruh

wooden kettle
mortal prairie
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same

brisk vine
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I saw that and I thought that was actually gonna be his number

past dune
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Doohan should do it tho if kimi gets 12

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just saying

twin gazelle
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fr

snow swan
mortal prairie
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yeah lol

twin gazelle
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lmao yea

mystic veldt
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Hi guys

south heron
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he just changed his passport and gave himself eyebrows is all

kindred cedar
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WHAT

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LMAO

mortal prairie
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it's a troll account 💀

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i found that out not even minutes after sending that image

arctic matrix
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Baku prediction: norris, leclerc , piastri

scarlet pier
sly badger
woven kiln
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Stroll win Sargaent comes back and gets 2nd and 3rd for Perez

clever wedge
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kubica to replace magnussen for baku

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true information

obtuse elm
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oh my days

coarse obsidian
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So Thursday we will official hear, see the news.

twin gazelle
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Real or Riyal?

clever wedge
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alonso 33 incoming

rocky blade
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It was between "Atleast this is kinda fun to watch"

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But it was also so dumb to watch everything the FIA did

slate rose
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Do people still think sainz is better than leclerc

rocky blade
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Who tf thinks that?

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Having a better start to the season doesn't mean that you are better than your teammate

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If that'd be the case then Stroll was better than Pérez in 2020

hexed zephyr
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alonso 33rd.

craggy zenith
snow swan
spring heron
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This muscle memory wouldn’t be possible

snow swan
uneven pawn
thin berry
snow swan
fleet aspen
rocky blade
thin berry
# snow swan

.mute 1184516226840526931 2h told you not to bait

jade muralBOT
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notapolarbear muted ariana_frrr for 2 hours. Reason: told you not to bait

thin berry
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Oh crap I thought it was a different one

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Oops

ornate gate
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Damn

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💀

thin berry
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.unmute 1184516226840526931 mb just don’t do it again ok 🧐

jade muralBOT
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Successfully unmuted ariana_frrr

hushed wadi
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get tricked

thin berry
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They confused me 😭

hexed zephyr
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bro 😭

rocky blade
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Muting for baiting is crazy

zealous moth
ebon crater
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average stroll fan

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chad alonso fan

stiff venture
rocky blade
stiff venture
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oh yeah they dont like us having fun in here.

rocky blade
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Crazy

pearl bear
snow swan
cosmic vapor
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leclerc win in baku guys alonso said himself ferrari will be best in monza (yes) baku and singspore

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and alonso

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is yes

stiff venture
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when did he say that

cosmic vapor
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in interview

carmine sparrow
coarse obsidian
# snow swan

That should be at a mute, at least one warning.

rocky blade
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???

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Damn we can't even do jokes

coarse obsidian
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That's shit baiting/posting

thin berry
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I told them not to it’s fine for now

cosmic vapor
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LECLERC GRAND SLAM IN BAKU

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and leclerc win AGAIN in singapore

unreal folio
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😭

cosmic vapor
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3 win in a row

unreal folio
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hoping

cosmic vapor
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alonso himself said ferrari is the team to beat for the next few

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and he was right for monza

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THIS IS LECLERCS SEASON

thin berry
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He already warned they’d be slow in Baku tbh so don’t hope too much

stiff venture
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shouldnt ferrari also be good in mexico?

cosmic vapor
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NEZT YEAR IS NOT OUR YEAR

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THIS IS OUR YEAR

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THIS IS IT

unreal folio
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LOL

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ITS NOW OT EVER

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OR

cosmic vapor
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NOW OR NEVER

hushed wadi
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now not ever

thin berry
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The season is already halfway done 😭

split bane
cosmic vapor
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it will happen

unreal folio
hushed wadi
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he's not that far behind!!!!!!!!!!!!

split bane
thin berry
hexed zephyr
unreal folio
stiff venture
unreal folio
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ill read and grt back to u

hushed wadi
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ferrari's only 39 points behind mclaren

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it's game on

stiff venture
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everyone loves an underdog story

hushed wadi
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but leclerc's bad run after his monaco win didn't help

split bane
unreal folio
stiff venture
split bane
unreal folio
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in every sport there will be disappointments, but ur passion or liking for it should triumph

split bane
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So, talking about Baku... what are the predictions?

undone bane
hexed zephyr
unreal folio
undone bane
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there are plot twists every weekend

split bane
unreal folio
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absolutely

split bane
barren bronze
unreal folio
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literally

stiff venture
coarse obsidian
narrow musk
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Norris win

split bane
narrow musk
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Leclerc podium

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piastri podium

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sainz p4

split bane
narrow musk
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checo p5

stiff venture
narrow musk
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so using that theory max shouldve won at zandvoort

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it was all his fans

lilac nova
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it’s NOT race week

narrow musk
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or is it though

split bane
lilac nova
stiff venture
narrow musk
split bane
narrow musk
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yep

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but mercedes was actually a decent car at silverstone

stiff venture
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you can make the arguement it helped leclerc at monza

narrow musk
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He had the 2nd best car at monza

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but what you said did help

split bane
narrow musk
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ahh k

snow swan
split bane
split bane
narrow musk
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get rid of piastri 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

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we want landan

split bane
spare kiln
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oliver bearman

stiff venture
spare kiln
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i agree

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no we dont

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i want oscdan

narrow musk
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???

chrome prism
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McLaren ruined Daniel so no to both of those

gloomy ruin
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cs55 win incoming

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ferrari 1-2

patent crystal
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Lando winning and fighting for podiums on the regular

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Daniel struggling to get past P6

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We wouldnt be fighting for constructors

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Piastri brings a lot of consistency to the team that it needs, especially with red bull weakened right now

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Daniel is good occasionally but its the consistency that matters

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Daniel ^

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Piastri v

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Granted he has a way better car

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But he as of late hasnt been getting P2 then P7

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Also hes not a big fan of mclaren’s management style and he himself said he lost himself when he was at the team

tribal vapor
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wait hes goated

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goated driver

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tractor of a car

snow swan
cyan saffron
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22nd in a 20 drivers championship

tribal vapor
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if they weren't driving john deere tractors of a car

cyan saffron
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And the team wouldn't be serious bottlers at the same time.

snow swan
wary forge
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Gp2 engine

hexed zephyr
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wait

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yeah

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next year is our year

cyan saffron
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This year is our year.🔥

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Lando and Max are too busy fighting each other, Charles comes out of nowhere, joins the title fight and wins it.

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the great Ferrari masterplan

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100% bulletproof

hexed zephyr
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ferrari strategies

cyan saffron
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Lando is 62 points away from Max, Charles is only 24 further points away from Lando, so if Lando is in contention Charles is in contention as well.

hexed zephyr
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didn’t expect math but

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kinda makes sense yeah

unreal folio
snow swan
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Jaja what is this title

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The last 10 races Perez has failed to finish within P5 or better(?)...two races resulted in P18 and one P17?

snow swan
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and dragging the maximum out of that car

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perez has been doin bottom 10 qualis

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and christian says the car was bad before adrian left

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sure

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but not this bad

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the fact that perez compares his performances with verstappen after one good performance right behind verstappen is actually disgusting

twin gazelle
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I think what perez meant was "Ya'll were simply blaming me while max is striggling the same way as me right now"

snow swan
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like last year merc

twin gazelle
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yea

snow swan
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cause they copied merc design from last year

twin gazelle
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mhm mhm

snow swan
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they really thought they could cook with mercs flawed design

snow swan
snow swan
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they were 6 tenths off

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😭

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in monza quali

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not surprised their having balances and oversteer and understeer problems as the w14 suffered with the same

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What happened from Miami to Emilia for Checo?

snow swan
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skill loss

wet sequoia
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Checo sucks in Europe

snow swan
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fr

wet sequoia
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His specialty is non-European street circuits so he should be good in Baku and Singapore

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And after the world sees he sucks at both of those goodbye Perez (If I was a smart TP)

hushed wadi
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do you remember when

cosmic vapor
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it’s only gonna get better for us guys

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ferrari will be the car to beat through singapore

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and then we’ll fight mclaren and keep redbull lower

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this is our year

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leclerc wdc 💪

proven leaf
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Under dog fights

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Last lap battle in Abu dhabi

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Leclerc and lando

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Lando we can be world champions I said

proven leaf
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He said the thing

snow swan
autumn ferry
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soooo charles does have a chance at wdc? IF FERRARI DOES EVERYTHING RIGHT while mclaren is busy with infighting and redbull w car issues

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?

autumn ferry
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MANIFESTING THIS

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fk Lando, idk i used to like him but his recent behaviour has been,.... what people call - icky

autumn ferry
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i do like piastri more

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but lando is not championship material

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and he cannot disrespect others who have earned so much honour

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didn't enjoy him dissing seb, didnt like him dissing sir hamilton, and felt gutted on his remarks on max, and im not even max's fan

remote knoll
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He dissed Seb?

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I'm gonna enjoy this

cosmic vapor
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he dissed seb??

wet sequoia
winged dagger
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he has a large fanbase in his home country and everyone literally treats him like a king

winged dagger
wooden kettle
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seb is such a sweet dude man. wtf

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i wasnt even around for seb but he seems like legit such a class act

stiff bough
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"no offense, but he should focus on driving"

wooden kettle
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damn

craggy zenith
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ehh at least it's been obvious to people paying attention

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it's only become more public the more people look on him to fight for the title

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his mental attitude isn't there which is something he's been criticised for for a long time

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Oscar has the attitude, but not the experience

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it's a weird dichotomy

wooden kettle
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but i feel osco is gonna catch up pretty quick

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but yeah idk i dont keep eyes on mclaren too much

craggy zenith
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next year or by the end of this year

wooden kettle
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like lando has a head start but not that much of a head start.

craggy zenith
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this is a driver who while getting more testing than most, didn't get the same level of pre-season experience most rookies did

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like he completed some test sessions with Alpine, that's about it

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his only pre-season experience with McLaren was the young drivers test and Bahrain 2023

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it was always going to take him time to catch up and he's starting to

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it's just his consistency is off and certain tracks are still catching him out

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Spain for instance

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there's no real other explanation for his pace there other than he doesn't suit it

wooden kettle
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i think the monza start kind of proved that he's got the skill to surpass lando, so

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yeah i'm really looking forward to how things go for him

craggy zenith
wooden kettle
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definitely one of my faves on the grid atm so

craggy zenith
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if he can show the team his true potential prior to next year, he sees it as a chance to cement the team in their belief of who can win the title next year

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beyond multiple DNF's for both of them, his chance of beating both Lando and Max is ultra slim

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next year is different

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He'll give the team the WCC that they want; he couldn't care less about Lando winning the WDC, doesn't affect him

wooden kettle
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honestly, as he should.

craggy zenith
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but if he proves to the team that "look, i am faster, i can make better starts, i have the same if not better race pace than Lando, i'm aggressive and i can overtake"

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It helps his chances of the team focusing on him to win the title next year, give him the upgrades first and follow his car development

craggy zenith
wooden kettle
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i actually love this kinda stuff. like driver politics and stuff

craggy zenith
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if they really are backing their equal number 1's in the team, then Oscar disappears in front of Lando, that's his problem, not the team

wooden kettle
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but he didn't get any orders this time out soooo lololol

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exactly

craggy zenith
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Like you have Buxton and Sky saying how disappointed they are in McLaren and how they should be doing better

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like no, they have said from day 1 they are both number 1's and equal, and from equality comes letting them race each other

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yeah it may cost Lando the title, but that's his problem for making too make mistakes

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the team's rule is you don't hit each other and you don't make each other lose points

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the fact the one stop worked for Ferrari was impressive

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Piastri only came within 3 seconds of him by the end and was impeeded first by Sainz and then traffic

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people just won't give Ferrari credit for making it work because it's easier to shit on McLaren for not making Lando the golden boy

wooden kettle
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honestly yeah respect to sainz for playing the team game and stalling mclaren as long as he could

craggy zenith
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i have to say it is

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like they are so agro about McLaren not giving Norris every single point necessary and saying how Piastri's move was too aggresive and risked everything

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like are you fr?

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weren't you people all complaining during the Mercedes era there wasn't enough hard racing anymore?

stiff venture
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Their hatred for max has blinded them

potent hound
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Imagine if Neweys only demand to join AM was they got rid of Lance

stiff venture
craggy zenith
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Lawrence would rather sacrifice 10,000 people than get rid of his son

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he really thinks he can win a world title if he gives him a good enough car

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bet his plan is to get a driver to help develop the car and team, and then ditch em so Lance is Number 1

stiff venture
craggy zenith
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maybe he is trying to lure Max over as Stage 3

stiff venture
thorn abyss
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so yall think mclaren will take the lead in WCC in the nextt GP?

craggy zenith
craggy zenith
stiff venture
thorn abyss
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also the new odds for redbull winning WCC on bet99 are wild +400

split bane
thorn abyss
thorn abyss
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but you think mclaren will overall win WCC?

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i think so

craggy zenith
split bane
thorn abyss
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max will win WDC. next year if mclaren dominence continues, theyll win both

jade muralBOT
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Congrats @thorn abyss, you're now on lap 15

craggy zenith
split bane
craggy zenith
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I mean Ferrari started as second best to Red Bull

thorn abyss
craggy zenith
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so they gained a lot of points and have slowly been slipping down the order

thorn abyss
craggy zenith
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their massive points haul mostly comes from the start of the season

craggy zenith
thorn abyss
craggy zenith
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Piastri will keep improving, it's just a matter of how much

thorn abyss
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they have really really strong drivers

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perez needs to go man

craggy zenith
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realistically they need to can him and possibly Ricciardo

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there is no point in keeping Perez so you might as well put Ricciardo in the Red Bull

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give him his last possible chance

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and then either keep him for next year or let him go

thorn abyss
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id say put in lawson

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give him a go

craggy zenith
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Lawson would get a go anyway at VCARB

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i don't have faith in that pressure cooker enviroment of placing a rookie straight into it

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you are merely asking him to sink or swim and experience has shown it's mostly sink

split bane
craggy zenith
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if you get rid of Daniel, give Yuki the chance he deserves

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he's done more than enough, if you're only going to keep him for one more year because of Honda

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put him at the main team

thorn abyss
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i think yuki aside from lawson

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can daniel to

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get him outta there

stiff venture
craggy zenith
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Daniel came back because Red Bull were looking for a way out with Perez

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if you don't at least give him a try there, there was no point in signing him back anyway

craggy zenith
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if they could prove to the company back in Austria it would be worth it, they will pay it

thorn abyss
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mans does not want to let him go

craggy zenith
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he is in control

split bane
craggy zenith
thorn abyss
craggy zenith
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they tried it to give him confidence

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which didn't work

stiff venture
split bane
craggy zenith
thorn abyss
stiff venture
craggy zenith
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they should've made the hard decision at the end of last year and dumped him

thorn abyss
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the rumours atleast were that liberty media pressured RB to keep perez cause of his disney+ documentary

craggy zenith
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he scored what, 25 points compared to Oscar's 180 in the last 7 or 8 races prior to the summer break

thorn abyss
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ever since Monaco hes been just bad

craggy zenith
stiff venture
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Imagine he wins Baku

craggy zenith
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i will laugh if he does

stiff venture
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The way f1 fans are they will be saying they believed in him all along and ricc should be sacked

craggy zenith
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honestly if it was Red Bull 1-2 with perez ahead

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Horner is absolutely telling him to swap or get sacked

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and then everyone will complain about Mclaren again

stiff venture
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Probably

thorn abyss
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they just need to bring back the 2023 car and just wrap it in 2024 livery

split bane
thorn abyss
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theyll be valid

placid swan
craggy zenith
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like Verstappen is holding on by the skin of his teeth

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they will need every single point

craggy zenith
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that was months ago

placid swan
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was it?

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i just saw it the other day mb

craggy zenith
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yeah tyre test in Silverstone

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unless he did another one

placid swan
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i still think danny ricc needs a chance in RB

stiff venture
craggy zenith
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i think it was either an older AT or the VCARB in Imola over the summer break

thorn abyss
craggy zenith
thorn abyss
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dude was consistantly getting eliminated in q1 and a2

craggy zenith
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the entire point of him being there was to replace Checo if he performed badly

stiff venture
craggy zenith
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the team wasn't that profitable

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they might have used Ricciardo to sell it to the sponsors

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but it was Red Bull wanting the team to generate more money

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like there were a lot of rumours about selling to Andretti or making a Honda works team with AT

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scoring near the bottom of the constructors just wasn't good enough

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it's also why VCARB takes use of a lot of RBR's facilities

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instead of making their own stuff

stiff venture
craggy zenith
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post ground effect regulations the team went from 6th in the constructors to 9th

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the only team that scored worse than them in 22 was Williams

stiff venture
craggy zenith
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they clawed up to 8th in 23 but they wasted the early part of the season with De Vries

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and then Daniel broke his hand from something out of his control

stiff venture
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Why is the grid filled with rbr failures?

craggy zenith
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can't really be said for most other academies

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like at least Red Bull has given an oppotunity to a lot more people

split bane
stiff venture
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How many are there right now? Ricardo, gasly, albon, sainz… who else?

craggy zenith
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Albon

thorn abyss
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ferrari had the chance to grab newey but couldnt match the bag aston martin

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threw at him

craggy zenith
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more than a quarter of the grid comes from their academy

stiff venture
thorn abyss
craggy zenith
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you would have to move Newey and his family to Italy

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which has been the main reason he hasn't wanted to go to Ferrari

thorn abyss
split bane
unborn folio
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hamilton's salary isnt in the budget cap

split bane
unborn folio
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drivers salary are excluded

unborn folio
cosmic vapor
craggy zenith
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that's not enough evidence

cosmic vapor
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cota will be a better race to see

craggy zenith
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at a track Ferrari traditionally invest a lot into trying to win

cosmic vapor
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but i think ferrari will be the team to beat for baku and singapore

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leclerc is godly around baku

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and the ferrari package is ideal for singapore

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i think ferrari has a shot at wcc

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and who knows if papaya rules keeps fucking em up wdc might enter the cards for leclerc

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i think it will

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people will forget lando and max title fight and the true title fight will begin between leclerc and max

craggy zenith
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he's nearly 90 points behind Max

cosmic vapor
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shh

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if lando has a shot then so does leclerc

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hot take

craggy zenith
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if Lando cannot beat Max, sure as shit Leclerc cannot in a car that is not an all-rounder like the McLaren

cosmic vapor
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leclerc will be past lando in the wdc by singapore

craggy zenith
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the Ferrari excels in a straight line and around slow speed corners

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if they slapped on a high downforce package, Singapore might work for them, as would Mexico, Abu Dhabi and Baku

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it still ignores the fact there are areas the McLaren just does better

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and that you also have to rely on Sainz being up there with Leclerc consistantly

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Qatar last year Leclerc was way behind Max and the McLaren's

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both the Mercs and McLaren's were super fast at Cota

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Las Vegas more had to do with Safety cars and the extreme cold temps

cosmic vapor
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i agree tbh

craggy zenith
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Qatar, Cota, Brazil and Abu Dhabi, the McLaren's will be up there

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that's at least half the races remaining

cosmic vapor
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but im trying to be optimistic this year

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at least wdc come on

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i mean like

craggy zenith
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if he overhauled 86 points from Max

cosmic vapor
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baku is real singapore is real mexico abu dhabi and i think vegas is real

craggy zenith
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he would have overcomed the largest championship gap in history

cosmic vapor
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and optimistic

craggy zenith
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even with the modern points systems, it is a massive long shot

cosmic vapor
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this season is unpredictable who knows

craggy zenith
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it's that unpredictable that i wouldn't be surprised if Red Bull found something and came back

cosmic vapor
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i mean like lets say ferrari is really good this season and leclerc wins those races

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i think this papaya bullshit will let piastri and norris split the amount of races they have to win

cosmic vapor
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redbull just doesnt have the budget

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or the abilityt the concept is literally fucked

craggy zenith
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yeah, it's called crossing out the 19 with a sharpee and writing 20 next to it lol

cosmic vapor
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huh

craggy zenith
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it's a joke about them bringing last year's car

cosmic vapor
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oh

craggy zenith
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which i don't know what the legalities of that is

cosmic vapor
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prob very not allowed

craggy zenith
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i'm sure with some work it is possible

cosmic vapor
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no i dont think so

craggy zenith
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not that it would matter anyway

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the McLaren is based of the old Red Bull formula

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it would probably still be faster anyway