monaco-gp

[sly badger]

Team orders will happen sooner or later if Lando loses points because Oscar tries to risk all

[split bane]

Good first race for him

[vernal holly]

Oscar didn’t risk anything

If Lando wanted p2 so bad why did he not overtake him

[raw plaza]

yea if they wanna blame some1 blame mclaren not the driver lol

[sly badger]

Because Oscar antics made Lando lose a position to Leclerc and he got a lot of laps trying to pass Leclerc

[raw plaza]

and lando should be selfish and say im the no 1 driver

not be so kind

coz thats not a champions mindset

max and lewis would never give away lead so easily

[sly badger]

Lando is lucky he still got the 8pts over Max this race

With the fastest lap

[raw plaza]

oscar did nothing wrong both driver said after race the team said go ahead b4 race to race each other

so as a driver u always want to win

and mclaren saying stuff like "both our drivers are equal " isnt helping stuff

[vernal holly]

Antics? Didn’t do anything wrong

He overtook him, it’s a race

[raw plaza]

ye

[vernal holly]

Lando failed to catch up

Sucks to suck and good luck next race

[cosmic vapor]

me a happy leclerc fan watching all the mclaren fans bickering about who’s fault is who’s

[sly badger]

Still could've ended in a double DNF

[cosmic vapor]

what a great day

[raw plaza]

that is why papaya rules was mentioned lol

[vernal holly]

So could every single turn where two cars are racing

[raw plaza]

they can race each other as long as they dont crash

[vernal holly]

No shit if one of them doesn’t break they’ll dnf

[raw plaza]

wdc for leclerc is out of the question mate move on 2025\

[cosmic vapor]

all mclaren needs to do is to tell oscar to hold position fuck all the comments about 1st driver unfair just get it done and take the damn flaming

[sly badger]

Good thing RedBull is imploding themselves cause that's a good thing for Lando and McLaren

[cosmic vapor]

this could have been the turning point for mclaren but no they fumbled the bag again it’s actually plain hilarious now

[cosmic vapor]

it’s also out of question for piastri? what’s your point

[raw plaza]

for leclerc

:Sob:

[raw plaza]

getting 8 points lead from max being on 7th and him on pole is absolutely criminal

[cosmic vapor]

ik lmfao

[raw plaza]

ahh wrong replhy

[cosmic vapor]

funny ahh shit to see mclaren fumble the bag again

wow ok

[raw plaza]

@sly badger

it was easily a mclaren 1-2

[cosmic vapor]

honestly though ferrari upgrades are coming in baku apparently as well and baku and singapore are really strong for ferrari

good chance we can get big point hauls

we coming for 2nd wdc lando >;)

[raw plaza]

hamilton said it himself "i saw what times mclaren were doing with those times no way they could maintain tyres" leclerc maintained his tyres beautifully

[cosmic vapor]

he was so smart with like the anti graining

and he was still within reason of the mclarens lap times

[raw plaza]

honestly wcc they can come 2nd possibly 1st

[sly badger]

If Ferrari actually wins the WCC because McLaren keeps being cooked,this will be the peak of F1 craziness

[cosmic vapor]

this guy is so good in race now

[cosmic vapor]

it’s so possible lol it’s only 40 points

[raw plaza]

yea but lando and oscar were pushing it on every lap

[cosmic vapor]

and the next two races are REALLY GOOD

[cosmic vapor]

leclerc cooked so hard

third race in a row over delivering with that ferrari and having good strategy

[raw plaza]

nah odts coz their car is just so good on every track now

[cosmic vapor]

vasseur actually changed ferrari bro

[sly badger]

Monza proved that RedBull is really cooked in tracks they actually were dominant

[raw plaza]

ferrari can def pass red bull

[cosmic vapor]

i am very confident that leclerc can win baku

finally

[raw plaza]

yea atleast give max a car he can be competitive it hurts to see him struggle

[sly badger]

And McLaren needs to stop being stupid and allow Lando to win the WDC

[cosmic vapor]

singapore hopefully sainz pulls something off and we pull the 1-2 that was meant to be in 23

i would very much like a leclerc win in baku and a sainz win in singapore

[raw plaza]

didnt lec say that this upgrade was very monza specific errari threw everything for this week .baku is very diff

[sly badger]

Nah

[cosmic vapor]

more upgrades in baku

[hushed olive]

Mclaren should have used team orders in the last lap

[raw plaza]

they think they are a midfield team underdogs

[sly badger]

I want Lando to win these races

[cosmic vapor]

half the upgrades for monza were track specific pretty much but a good amount was real

[hushed olive]

To Lando fight for that wdc

[cosmic vapor]

a bigger package coming in baku apparently

that is supposed to improve overall performance

[raw plaza]

still mclaren are just too fast its a rocketship

if drivers like max or lewis were ion it

[cosmic vapor]

ferrari was pretty fast today

[raw plaza]

things like today wpuld not happen

[cosmic vapor]

exactly

but like leclerc i feel like can really max out the car

he’s been doing in spa in zandvoort here in monza

[hushed olive]

Mclaren having clearly the fastest car having the same wins as Ferrari and merc is shocking

[raw plaza]

he can but ferrari always are like 2nd-3rd fastest car 😭

[cosmic vapor]

and leclerc is soooo good at managing tire deg

[cosmic vapor]

i think we’ll start to becoming consistently 2nd fastest

i’m sure by like vegas ferrari will be fighting for 1st fastest

[raw plaza]

max and leclerc are the same age lmfao by the time leclerc might get a shot at wdc max might retire from f1

💀

[cosmic vapor]

if you think about it

it’s very uh delusional but

the gap is about 86 points

[raw plaza]

nah thats too much

[cosmic vapor]

yeah

[raw plaza]

that is peak delusion

[cosmic vapor]

next year there’s a really good chance

[raw plaza]

no way lewis loses to lec

😭

refuse to believe

until i see it

105 wins vs 7

106*

[queen lintel]

McLaren's race strategy is 💀

[raw plaza]

honstly max career is unbelievable if he retires at 26 je will still be considered one of the best this decade

[unreal folio]

we got our wish !

leclerc came thru

[raw plaza]

since 2020 52 wins 💀

[cosmic vapor]

leclerc will be much more used to the ferrari

[hushed olive]

Thats the reason why they have 3 wins instead of 7 or 8

[cosmic vapor]

i think leclerc will beat him first year

[queen lintel]

Fr

[raw plaza]

and hamilton is a 7 times wdc

the best driver in f1

[hushed olive]

Almost anyone talks about Ferrari strategy but mclaren's is just.....

[cosmic vapor]

ok

YEAH ONG

^^^

[unreal folio]

leclerc is more used to the ferraris over the years so

[raw plaza]

bro is the best rookie

of f1

[cosmic vapor]

i thought there would be more hype around leclerc win and possible championship for ferrari

i guess people are actually sane now

[tender spoke]

real

[unreal folio]

unfortunately

[jade mural]

Congrats @unreal folio, you're now on lap 15

[minor breach]

😭 next year

[hushed olive]

Nando was 8 points away of becoming a 5 time wdc

[snow swan]

https://vxtwitter.com/NoSleepFound2/status/1830272287628730516?s=19

[hushed olive]

2019 5 years ago ???

Dawg i renember that like yesterday

[raw plaza]

if ferrari are good wcc is a very good chance as both are very good .but i can see it as explosive to coz both are hungry for a wdc

[minor breach]

love a coincidence

[hushed olive]

And Lewis was like 14 points of becoming a 10 time wdc

[raw plaza]

and ferrari wont know who to put aas the

#1 driver

[kindred cedar]

LMAO

and they were both emotional wins

like really meaningful

[minor breach]

home wins

[raw plaza]

the guy they have believed in for 5 years or the 7 times wdc .who will be the priority

[minor breach]

5 years

probably

hamilton is going to retire soon

charles is the future

[raw plaza]

but lewis is the one who bought the result to merc

[minor breach]

and hes proving it

[raw plaza]

and got them 8 wcc

[minor breach]

years ago

[hushed olive]

Lewis is prob going to retire in 2027 or 28

[raw plaza]

future hes 27 mate

[minor breach]

i mean, hes an excellent driver

[raw plaza]

😭

[rigid ginkgo]

Imagine leclerc gets dsq bc his car is to light💀💀

[minor breach]

compared to 39

[hushed olive]

5 hours after the race and no news.
We arent going to have a George russell case

[minor breach]

max fans are becoming delulu now

yay

[raw plaza]

yea but hamilton is still a wdc and the most succesfull driver in f1

[kindred cedar]

prob if ferrari dosent work out

[rigid ginkgo]

I SAY IMAGINE NOT LIKE I WANT THAT

[minor breach]

chill

[raw plaza]

and ferrari spent so much money in hamilton

[kindred cedar]

and then bearman will step in

if that doesnt work out then someone else wudve popped up by then

[minor breach]

honestly i think hamilton will be 2nd driver

maybe he wants to mentor

[rigid ginkgo]

Im pretty happy that Charles won

[rocky sail]

lando fans are genuinely insufferable man

it’s insane

[minor breach]

then he will retire and ollie will get

[rigid ginkgo]

Red Bull is completely falling down

[minor breach]

ikr

its insane

[rocky sail]

god forbid oscar finishes higher than lando

[minor breach]

like they are randomly popping up everywhere

[kindred cedar]

probably

[raw plaza]

what a million dollar sign to be a mentor to charles ik yall are delusional; but dial it back a lil

😭

[kindred cedar]

my friends a lando fan but hes chill

[minor breach]

they are a decade apart

maybe he just wants to chill

let the man chill

[raw plaza]

ferrari spent a lot of money on him they need the result out of him that they believe will get

[minor breach]

no one knows until 2025

[raw plaza]

why will he want to chill do u know him personally to say that he is a champion

😭

[rigid ginkgo]

Now Oscar getting so much hate bc of the race

[raw plaza]

what kind of stupid lohic is this

💀

[kindred cedar]

yeah i mean i think ferraris gonna be a team hamilton relaxs in with a good enviornment cough rb cough and just like try to end his career on a high

[minor breach]

bearman's signed for haas

[raw plaza]

casually leaves norris out

norris doesnt have the fear factor like max has when someone wants to overtake him

if oscar did that to max max will lovee tap oscar

[minor breach]

💀since when does max have fear factor

man has no chill

at all

lando has fear factor, thats why he loses pole

so often

[raw plaza]

driver def thinks twice b4 passing him.

[minor breach]

new kimi i wud say

[raw plaza]

i think u got the wrong meaning of fear factor

[minor breach]

OHH Wait i get u

[raw plaza]

😭

[minor breach]

YES sorry

[raw plaza]

people fear max lando too kind

[minor breach]

lando is becoming annoying

[raw plaza]

oscar knows that

oscar would never do that to alonso lewis or max

[minor breach]

either the fandom is getting into lando's head, or like idk
geniunely he acts like hes better than anyone else

[raw plaza]

fear factor means he is npt scared others are scared of him 😭 like saying no

[hushed olive]

K

[raw plaza]

he did say b4 quali or race he cant eat sleep

exactly the senna mentality

making u uncomfortable

[cosmic vapor]

i remember when leclerc was like norris

fumbling and shit

[raw plaza]

ppl said senna always went for an overtake even if it meant a crash

max has that factor in him too

since 2016

[cosmic vapor]

big fumble by ferrari

fumble by leclerc too i’ll admit

but i think if he got that opportunity again in his current form he’d win it

if the baku upgrades work bruh

if they work damn it

[raw plaza]

leclerc does have the most experience racing max during karting race

days

unlike lando

💀

hamilton vs max next season

🔥

part 2 of 2021

lets goo

[hushed olive]

2022 could have been Charles Best season if not for the Ferrari mistakes

[raw plaza]

norris title fight is boring

put hamilton and max in same machinery and let them fight

that is enough for me

[snow swan]

Yo WHAT THE BOCK

[paper socket]

W Ferrari their strategy worked somehow 💀

Also they did my boy Mag dirty with the penalty

Did he get a race ban or something?

[tight flint]

wait so who’s going to replace mag then

[olive quail]

bearman

Prolly

[tight flint]

oh good for him

[olive quail]

dude drove for 2 separate f1 teams this year

Future WDC trust ‼️‼️🔥🔥💯

[tight flint]

do you think he’ll be a better f1 driver than kimi

[hushed olive]

Leclerc have almost no chances to fight for wdc

[raw plaza]

conclusion of today race:
ferrari masterclass
mclaren do not want to win wdc
red bull are so fucked

what a race!

[raw plaza]

yea the no points after monaco streak fucked him

one thing abt mclaren why do they ask drivers to make every decision

if u see their radio its oscar or lando making the calls

while ferrari red bull and merc the pit walls make most of the calling

it is so frustrating

[hushed olive]

Fr bro

[raw plaza]

like just tell oscar kindly that lando has a shot at wdc so dont race but nooo they told him to race lando

oscar will comply

it is common sense.they are no more the underdogs

[craggy zenith]

i think Oscar took one look at Hungary and realised that Lando probably isn't going to do the same thing back to him

[raw plaza]

they have been the fastest since miami

[craggy zenith]

so as long at the team don't order him to, he doesn't care about Lando's championship

because it's not his

[raw plaza]

yea thats the prob with mclaren

they dont want to make the harsh decision

its like they want to be loved by the public and everyone

[gleaming dagger]

That's the point.

[craggy zenith]

in part it is too early

Baku and Singapore are nothing like the last two

[gleaming dagger]

He has every right to race Norris if the team allows racing.

[craggy zenith]

Qatar and Brazil are different again

Las Vegas is an outlier

[raw plaza]

for what

?

[craggy zenith]

there is every possibility Red Bull find something and start to catch up

[hushed olive]

I have a feeling baku and singapore could be a red bull disasterclass

[gleaming dagger]

Azerbaijan will be decided by strategy too.

[raw plaza]

lando could have close the gap to 50 points today

[craggy zenith]

McLaren don't want to take the risk in case it ends up being for nothing

they're looking at an easy win in the Constructors

while the drivers is still a big maybe

[raw plaza]

i heard coz of sergio crashes they dont have much in budget to be able to find a solution to he car

[craggy zenith]

it comes down to setup and making compromises

[raw plaza]

nah as a team thats unacceptable when red bull have fallen off and there is a real shot

[craggy zenith]

Sinagpore is a track they can win if they qualify well

[raw plaza]

ik ur a fan

[gleaming dagger]

Cost cap became a problem for them earlier than expected.

[craggy zenith]

let me remind you Lando has thrown away plenty himself

[raw plaza]

but it is unacceptable what mclaren are doing

[hushed olive]

Checo driving like Maldonado in most of the races doesnt help for developing a car

[gleaming dagger]

It's 62 points and we're talking about Max Verstappen & Red Bull.

[craggy zenith]

this wouldn't even be a decision if Lando actually drove like he wanted to win this thing

[gleaming dagger]

If the team sacrifices Piastri for Norris it could prove costly.

WCC is a safer bet.

[craggy zenith]

you can complain all you want about Oscar being selfish and the team not helping Lando

[gleaming dagger]

Better to go with that.

[raw plaza]

the team could have asked oscar to give lando the position at last lap to extend points but noo

[craggy zenith]

Lando is not pulling his weight in and fixing his mistakes

[craggy zenith]

how about Lando doesn't leave the door open for Oscar and has a good start?

He keeps doing this and leaving oppotunities on the table

he should not be relying on his team to win him the world championship

[raw plaza]

red bull have clearly fallen off max himself said he cant do nothing abt losing drivers if the car continue like this

[gleaming dagger]

Didn't even retain P1 for five corners...

[gleaming dagger]

They always find a way back. And McLaren have competition coming from Ferrari.

[craggy zenith]

Button had a shit car for the second half of 2009, he still won it himself without relying on the team or Barrichello

[raw plaza]

well yea he always bottle but they can also tell the drivers not to pass lando as lando has a chance.if u have seen the past if a driver has an oppurtunity for wdc they will prioritize that driver

[raw plaza]

they dont have the budget and the car has hit its developement ceiling

[craggy zenith]

That is not fair on Oscar, and does not take into account Mercedes and Ferrari will steal every podium and win they can get their hands on

[gleaming dagger]

Doesn't WCC bring more 💰 for the team?

[craggy zenith]

If Oscar didn't shove Russell out of the way, i can fucking guarantee you he fights Lando for the lead

[gleaming dagger]

Get ready for 2025 domination then.

[raw plaza]

so every team wants to win both championship

[gleaming dagger]

They can't take both.

It's very risky.

[raw plaza]

they can

dont be dumb

[hushed olive]

Lando Norris's Lost wins
Russia 2021 (not pitting for inters)
Singapore 2023 ( could have overtaken Sainz in the last laps)
USA 2023 ( bad strategy plus 2023 max doing 2023 max things)
Imola 2024 ( first part of the race didnt help)
Monaco 2024 (Bad quali)
Canada 2024 ( unlucky safety car)
Spain 2024 ( Bad start and failed undercut)
Austria 2024 ( multiple track limits plus crash with max. the crash wasnt his fault tbh)
Great britain 2024 ( mclaren tomfoolery)
Hungary 2024 ( Bad start plus team orders)
Monza 2024 ( Bad start again and piastri doing better)

[craggy zenith]

they can if Lando actually figure himself out

[raw plaza]

and defend mclaren coz ur their fan

[gleaming dagger]

One mistake from Norris like today is all it takes to remove the championship chances.

[placid rivet]

I dont think so. You can always make the car faster. Its not like they need completely new concept for that

[craggy zenith]

I will easily blame McLaren for Silverstone which would've been an easy 1-2

[gleaming dagger]

One at the start, and the run-off.

[craggy zenith]

and then entire issue that was Hungary

[raw plaza]

lando doesnt need to he gets the quali result and mclaren needs to tell oscar to priritze the wdc

[craggy zenith]

i will also easily blame Norris for making this championship as hard as he is making it

[gleaming dagger]

Cost him P1 & P2. 10 points.

[raw plaza]

it is his fault and the team at the same time

[craggy zenith]

So because Norris got pole position, that invalidates Oscar overtaking him at the start of Hungary?

or the number of times he leaves the door open for Verstappen to take his position?

Austria would've been easy had he shut the door on Verstappen into turn 4

[raw plaza]

but begging lando to give oscar backl was very unacceptable if u listened to nico he doesnt approve of what mclaren are doing too

[craggy zenith]

but he didn't and that led to them colliding later on

[raw plaza]

clearly u dont know one thing abt racing 😭

[craggy zenith]

I listened to the radio when they told him to box, with the clear instruction he was to give the position back to Oscar

[gleaming dagger]

Norris didn't match the pace of Piastri at all in the race.

[craggy zenith]

then Lando buggered off for 15 laps and complained to the team

[gleaming dagger]

Wait, are you talking about Monza or Hungary?

[craggy zenith]

clearly you think Lando can't win this on his own

[raw plaza]

but they did decide to undercut piastri which gave norris an oppurtunity and they made lando look like a villian and the satisfaction of oscar 1st win

[raw plaza]

he was way faster at the last stint

[craggy zenith]

every argument i see comes down to the team should prioritise Lando, except Lando keeps throwing away results and then they have to make the painful decision to ask his teammate to give up his race and his results for Lando

[gleaming dagger]

Which GP?

[placid rivet]

mclaren isnt making it easier for him either. At some point they have to rdrop the "but thats unfair" bullshit. If only one driver is in the fight for the championship then the other driver should help all he can. Lando should never have had to give the position to Oscar in hungary. But as a Redbull fan its completely fine by me

[craggy zenith]

Rather than critisising Lando for forcing the team up against the wall and letting the media rag on them for making such decisions

[raw plaza]

of course they should oscar having achance at wdc is a miracle

for lando its hard

but possible

[craggy zenith]

Lando is making it hard, for himself

[gleaming dagger]

Norris is making a lot of mistakes, Piastri is being blamed for doing what he is supposed to do.

[craggy zenith]

he's not a Verstappen, or a Hamilton

[raw plaza]

max has chased a 70 point lead

b4

[craggy zenith]

he is making that very clear and he is proving again, why he lost to Russell in 2018

[raw plaza]

and red bull def prioritize max

[craggy zenith]

those starts of his are a prime reason he did not become a F2 champion

[gleaming dagger]

No shot you think Norris is on level with Verstappen. 💀🤣

[raw plaza]

of couse hes not if the places were swapped we would see a domination since miami

[craggy zenith]

The entire reason for that swap was Hamilton being considered a threat and Piastri making a mistake causing him to lose time in traffic

[placid rivet]

Yup. And if you dont have a very dominant car thats what you need to do to win championships

[raw plaza]

but im saying as a team mclaren arent making the hard decision

[gleaming dagger]

In 2021, Verstappen was the clear better driver, in 2022 he won it himself, 2023 was domination. This is a completely different case, both drivers are pretty much the samez

[hushed olive]

Out of the three rookies in 2019 the f2 champion (george) was given the worst car by far 💀

[craggy zenith]

the undercut was made with the specific requirement he give up the position when Oscar pitted

Lando made the decision himself to not do that for a long time and argue with the team

personally i think Stella should've just did what he used to with Alonso and tell Lando himself to do it

[raw plaza]

lando clealry is realising having a dominant car doesnt mean he is max or lewis

so he needs help from oscar

[craggy zenith]

but all of Hungary simply proved to Oscar that come next year, he probably can't rely on his teammate

[raw plaza]

which the team should instruct hjim

[craggy zenith]

so why should he help him in return when it likely won't benefit him

it's different if the team orders him to do it

[formal cradle]

Can’t lie, McLaren was cooking with the two stopper here. Not what I was expecting but Oscar almost won using it

[craggy zenith]

there is 0 incentive for Oscar to be a sportsman like DC was and give up wins

[raw plaza]

i never said oscar should help.but the team should make him

[formal cradle]

I feel like if Oscar went a tiny bit longer and went to Mediums it was possible

[raw plaza]

it was the team fault not norris

the team decided to undercut like a bunch of morrons

[craggy zenith]

Norris could've done it at anytime

[craggy zenith]

it was not dumb at the time

you're trying to use hindsight as a reason not to do it

[raw plaza]

the team decideds when to box

[craggy zenith]

when i last checked, time travel isn't possible

[raw plaza]

😭

and who to biox first

[craggy zenith]

Hamilton was there and he looked for a while to be a threat

if they got stuck in traffic or he undercut them, they could see a possibility of Hamilton jumping Norris

[raw plaza]

nah are u fr the team has all the data they need to make the decision

they just are so bad as a team

[raw plaza]

nah they were so clear

[formal cradle]

Was not expecting a Mediums-Hards-Hards two stopper

[raw plaza]

it was an ez 1-2

[craggy zenith]

You mean so clear, while Hamilton was gaining on Norris?

i'm not going to defend the team for how stupid it was in hindsight

[raw plaza]

if they boxed piastri first and then norris it would have so fine

but no they took away oscar first wion feeling

[craggy zenith]

you do realise it's a race?

things happen in a race

you get a safety car, things change

they did not want to take that risk

[raw plaza]

it does but as a team they need to make the decision

[raw plaza]

u keep on saying risk they are not underdogs

u clearly think they are

[craggy zenith]

this is the first time this team has been in this position

do you even know when McLaren was last considered in Championship contention?

[raw plaza]

red bull merc they all make better decision

[craggy zenith]

Mercedes dominated most of the Turbo Hybrid Era, Red Bull has had two periods of domination in the last 15 years

[light loom]

Ferrari on top (forced to say this being Italian)

[craggy zenith]

McLaren hasn't been at the front since 2012

[raw plaza]

saying that as an excuse is so bad lmao merc were a new team in 2014 but they still won both wdc wcc

[raw plaza]

forza ferrari

[craggy zenith]

You mean the new team that won the title in 2009, had a 7x world champion at their team for several years, and poached Hamilton at the perfect time?

yeah, i can't see why they didn't quickly learn how to win world championships in a car that was stupidly dominant

[placid rivet]

But why do they have to learn from thier own mistakes when they can learn from other teams mistakes. They are a top f1 team, they should know stuff like this

[raw plaza]

it doesnt matter if they are new to this they have had time and the summer break by now they need to take risk and make hard decision

[craggy zenith]

Because it's not that simple

[raw plaza]

to win the wdc

[craggy zenith]

you know how long it took Mercedes to figure out their strategy errors after 2021?

more than a year

[raw plaza]

arguing with u is so useless

[placid rivet]

To a certain degree it is

[raw plaza]

u clearly dont see any fault in the golden mclaren team

perfect ass team lmao

[craggy zenith]

You don't see any fault in Norris being incapable of winning the title

[raw plaza]

he can win tho

if mclaren prioritize him

[craggy zenith]

He could, if he pulled his head in and stopped making mistakes

[raw plaza]

which they are not doing

[craggy zenith]

they can prioritse him all they want, except Norris keeps flubbing his starts and losing positions

[raw plaza]

its a race anything can happen today they told oscar he can rtace lando

and he did

[craggy zenith]

makes you less confident in a driver when you give them the ability to take pole and watch then tumble down after turn 1

[formal cradle]

Norris actually didn’t have a bad start, Oscar was extremely aggressive and daring in that overtake on lap one

[craggy zenith]

Yeah, they told them they could race, and then Norris was incapable of catching him

[formal cradle]

And that’s what got him ahead

[raw plaza]

instead they should tell oscar to back off and let lando win

and get a 1-2

[craggy zenith]

he got to 1.5 seconds before he pulled away again

[craggy zenith]

how about Lando does it wait for it

himself

he's not shouting World Champion calibre if he cannot overtake the guy driving the same car as him

last time i checked, neither Verstappen nor Hamilton had that issue

[raw plaza]

are u like fr as a team mclaren should tell oscar to switch atleast at the last lap.many teams have done it b4 for their championship leader

[craggy zenith]

yeah, because Mercedes famously took Hamilton off the podium in Hungary in place of Bottas in 2017

despite being in a title fight with Vettel

[raw plaza]

stop trying to compare him to max and lewis they are generational talents

[craggy zenith]

and Lando isn't

that is exactly my point

if he wants to become world champion, he needs to earn it

you don't get given it

[raw plaza]

yea exactly why he needs all the support from oscar and his team to win it

[craggy zenith]

you don't win the title by being given points at the grace of your team and teammates

[raw plaza]

now if he loses to max by 8 points he will look back at hungary and this race and regret everything

[craggy zenith]

No, he can look back at Imola and Spain and Austria for his problems

because he lost all of those because of him

He went off into the gravel in Spain and lost time to Max

[raw plaza]

from ur roles i thouight u were a mclaren fan

[craggy zenith]

he failed to nail his start in Spain and lost time to Max and never caught him

[raw plaza]

why do u not like norris and believe in him 😭

[craggy zenith]

and Austria was a complete disater by letting Max through into turn 4 and then pulling off a stupid divebomb

[pulsar ingot]

Ricciardo with a solid performance today for p13 🤙🤙🤙🤙

[craggy zenith]

because he is proving that he cannot win this title unless it is given to him

because his fans will point the fingers at everyone except him

because Norris is aparently so good, his mistakes are worth forgetting

[raw plaza]

ngl oscar is developing in such a rapid rate he can def beat lando soon too

[pulsar ingot]

Still needs to get his first actual win

[craggy zenith]

That is why Lando needs to cement himself now

[hardy shoal]

I wish tsunoda didn’t dnf,

[craggy zenith]

if he keeps expecting his teammate to give him positions and wins, he will find himself next year being outclassed by him

[pulsar ingot]

Magnussen had to make rb's situation even worse

[raw plaza]

im sure he knows his mistakes u can see it hes realising it doesnt always take the fastest car to win races like he used to bicker for the past 6 years abt lewis and max being in a faster car

[craggy zenith]

well he got what he deserved

[pulsar ingot]

Tf did my boy yuki even do

[craggy zenith]

no Kmag

[pulsar ingot]

Magnussen couldve done that to Stroll

[craggy zenith]

banned for Baku

[hardy shoal]

Kmag is just a little silly sometimes I guess

[pulsar ingot]

Oh ok

[remote knoll]

Ollieeeeeeeeee

[pulsar ingot]

I wanna say something but yall will go mad

[remote knoll]

It was just a lockup

[pulsar ingot]

Can I say it 🥰

[hardy shoal]

You should

[pulsar ingot]

Antonelli wouldnt be in f1 if he didnt look like Senna

[craggy zenith]

that is a weird take

by that logic, we should have a woman in F1 by now

[raw plaza]

lando will also think why isnt my team proritizing me when im the one closer to max then oscar

[pulsar ingot]

Saying that because ive seen people say he deserves a seat because he looks like senna

[remote knoll]

You're hilarious

[raw plaza]

he did have a chance to go to red bull but he decided to stay loyal to mclaren

[remote knoll]

an original take for once

[tender spoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thcdl1tVZco will buxton had some interesting words to say about mclaren today

[remote knoll]

even if it's bait

[pulsar ingot]

Oh and Ricciardo deserves redbull seat

[raw plaza]

💀

[remote knoll]

you lost me

[craggy zenith]

wouldn't say deserve, simply he'd do a better job than Perez

[pulsar ingot]

Have a great night yall

[craggy zenith]

well of course he would

[hushed olive]

We are going to have tifosi, teamlh and leclerc fans in the same team next year

[raw plaza]

and i think lando isnt telling the team like /"no i want to win the champioship"

[tender spoke]

chaos

[hardy shoal]

I wish Daniel would be at rb because it would be amazing to see him back there again, but I also hope that eventually Yuki goes to rb because I think that would be amazing

[raw plaza]

max haters all in one team 😭

[pulsar ingot]

Yuki would NOT fit with max, I can already see them fight everytime 😭

[hardy shoal]

They wouldn’t which sucks ass but it would be funny

[remote knoll]

on track?

[pulsar ingot]

Everywhere

[remote knoll]

Max would be too far ahead for that

[tender spoke]

red bull would have to get a swear jar for max and yuki lol

would love to see it

[remote knoll]

would need more than a jar

[pulsar ingot]

Does albon have a race win?

[remote knoll]

no

[pulsar ingot]

Damn

[craggy zenith]

no, 2 podiums

[tender spoke]

no but i wish he did

[pulsar ingot]

Would love to see him win once

Hes so good

[tender spoke]

i like albon, i think if he had a better car he could probably win a race

[pulsar ingot]

For sure

But why did he not stay at redbull,

?*

[craggy zenith]

wasn't his choice, they kicked him out

[remote knoll]

he was mid

[pulsar ingot]

Ik

[hardy shoal]

That’s kinda what I think w nico

[pulsar ingot]

But like why did he leave

[remote knoll]

Albon did the Checo

[pulsar ingot]

Or get kicked ig

[craggy zenith]

poor performances and too big of a gap to Verstappen

[hushed olive]

Only 1 podium (tuscan 2020 i think)

[craggy zenith]

because the team would rather blame Albon than the car

despite Verstappen complaining about it every 5 minutes

[pulsar ingot]

Man I swear verstappen aint gonna miss another Toto call

Bros gonna be waiting near his phone

[hardy shoal]

He will be giggling and kicking his feet signing that new contract

[pulsar ingot]

Imagine Verstappen and Russell

[tender spoke]

i think it's actually good that albon left red bull behind, he's really been able to rebuild himself and his confidence at williams

[raw plaza]

it will be ver kimi as soon as toto signs max george needs to find a new sear

[hushed olive]

Albon as a driver has been better in Williams than in red bull

[hardy shoal]

George to redbull would be so interesting

[hushed olive]

Albon severely underperformed in red bull

[pulsar ingot]

George will probably stay imo

[raw plaza]

maybe as a reserve driver

they wont let a talent go

[remote knoll]

reserve is crazy

[hushed olive]

Why people thinks George would get sacked

[raw plaza]

merc had a chance to sign max in 2016 but hesitated toto doesnt want to make the same mistake

thats why kimi

[hushed olive]

We could have had max and Lewis in the same team. Crazy....

[raw plaza]

david croft said it himself

[pulsar ingot]

Kimi will never get to Max's level

[raw plaza]

yea 😭

[hardy shoal]

That would be one hell of a duo

[tender spoke]

makes me wonder how well max would have done at merc next to lewis

[remote knoll]

he hasnt even made it to f1 yet

[raw plaza]

u never know.i know max is a generational talent but even kimi had the same hypoe when max join torro rosso at 16

[valid hull]

did perez ever get a penalty?

[remote knoll]

for?

[hardy shoal]

No

[tender spoke]

no

[hardy shoal]

Or wait like today or what

[valid hull]

yeah today

[hardy shoal]

No

[remote knoll]

penalty for what

[tender spoke]

do u mean for his battle with george?

[valid hull]

yeah

[remote knoll]

oh

That stuff is a black and white flag anyway I think

[tender spoke]

yeah there was no penalty as far as i know

[remote knoll]

the first time at least

[pulsar ingot]

Hi danny ric fan n2

[hardy shoal]

Ric got +5 and +10 seconds and then kmag got +10 seconds and that was all of them im pretty sure, but not for perez

[simple anchor]

Just found out my dad met Kimi in a bar in the early 2000s😭

[valid hull]

he forced George off the track did he not?

[remote knoll]

no

he moved late on the straight

[valid hull]

at t1?

[remote knoll]

Which is a black and white flag most of the time

[valid hull]

from what i saw he cut george off at t1/t2 and same with albon

[remote knoll]

i'll have to see a replay

[valid hull]

ill see if its in the highlights

yeah found it
https://youtu.be/sTmpbEYUba0?t=230

watching it again i do think george is to far back

[tender spoke]

moves like that at that particular chicane have happened a lot in the past, i don't think they usually penalize for that

[valid hull]

ah ok

[hushed olive]

George bottled a possible podium in this race

[wooden kettle]

lol

[raw plaza]

https://youtu.be/Thcdl1tVZco?si=Qmsz4gae-PhAaDk1 even will said it

😭

he said he has no idea what mclaren are doing lmao

same will same

[remote knoll]

bro got angry as hell

i was sitting there like bro relax

[wooden kettle]

oh wow i've never seen buxton mad

[jovial holly]

What are the odds Verstappen loses WDC?

[remote knoll]

two tacoshells in a burger

[cyan saffron]

They keep getting higher.

[coral hedge]

Can I marry Charles Leclerc

[remote knoll]

no

[snow swan]

Can you take me higher, higher-

[eternal grail]

Did we ever figure out what the fuck Papaya Rules means?

[muted igloo]

The colour rules, duh (no but seriously, I think we didn’t)

[unreal folio]

probs team rules set within their meetings together idk

[rain storm]

Don't crash into each other

Keep it clean

[hushed wadi]

it's, and i quote: "race each other respectfully, give each other enough room and don't touch each other"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnM2GMmDxgI&t=325s

5:25

[vernal holly]

https://fxtwitter.com/wearetherace/status/1830266522113372516

[snow swan]

two weeks without f1 😢

[steel solar]

I think Red Bull’s come back is for the COTA

[dire bison]

i hope so

[steel solar]

Two weeks without the mclaren rocketship🥳🎉🍾

[dire bison]

i dont know you, but i already like you

[steel solar]

They can’t fix the issue before imo

[steel solar]

💪

[dire bison]

man the car is just not it

[steel solar]

Red bull underestimated the issues during the season

[steel solar]

Yeah for now , but not until the end of the season

We will have 1 month break between Singapore and Austin

[dire bison]

Do you think they can do it in 1 month ?

[steel solar]

Maybe , idk

It depends

[dire bison]

if they want to change the whole car like max said there will be consequences lol

[steel solar]

They have to take some risks, starting with baku in 2 weeks and Austin after

[cosmic vapor]

leclerc win baku and singapore max win cota piastri win mexico leclerc win são paulo vegas jeddah and abu dhabi

leclerc wdc

[dire bison]

yyyeaaahhhh nooo

[polar star]

3 way constructors?

[dire bison]

leclerc aint gonna win this many races

[steel solar]

Bro you are dreaming

[cosmic vapor]

that’s not delusional

possible

[cosmic vapor]

nope

[steel solar]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-just-a-little-weird-marques-brownlee-it's-simply-somewhat-strange-mkbhd-gif-16579247008210772295

[dire bison]

max gonna win his 4th

then 5th then retire from f1

mark my words

[steel solar]

I think so

Unfortunately

[dire bison]

yeah

[fleet aspen]

There are 62 points between Max and Lando. There are 8 races left. This means Lando will need to score at least 7.75 points per race more than Max to win the WCC 2024.

(This does not include the 3 sprint races remaining this season)

Super Max 🥹🫶🦁

[pseudo quail]

Decent chance redbull can improve before the end and stop lando catching up

[wooden kettle]

true

but i wouldnt count on it

[sharp oxide]

I think

Verstappen will win the wdc

But McLaren will win the wcc

[distant wave]

Max basically needs to DNF to make it happen

[sharp oxide]

Porez needs to be useful and crash into lando next race

[distant wave]

Rule 1b counts for drivers also

[steel solar]

We need charles second as well

[jagged cloak]

dealt with

[ember kayak]

3 years ago on this day kimi announced his retirement

[undone bane]

i feel old

[jagged cloak]

cant believe kimi is coming back from retirement /j

[remote knoll]

I didnt even know antonelli retired

[ember kayak]

not that kimi

bwoah kimi

[undone bane]

i call antonelli Andrea, it feels weird calling him kimi

[ember kayak]

fake kimi

[remote knoll]

I don't think so

[ember kayak]

iceman ah

not that rookie that Toto Wolff has a crush on

[undone bane]

he just have a father and son relationship with him

[ember kayak]

ok yeah fair enough

I can see that

European dad tho not asian dad

sadly

would’ve liked to see a beating after Andrea sent that merc into the wall

[remote knoll]

Huh

[cyan saffron]

In some years people will forget there's an other Kimi so better start now already calling the new one Kimi.

[ember kayak]

😔

[cyan saffron]

When Kimi becomes the 1st ever driver to win the title in his debut season.🔥

[ember kayak]

oh well at least the older Kimi doesn’t really give a shit about if he gets remembered or not

[cyan saffron]

Well, if Mercedes can give him a car to do that.

[ember kayak]

nah I doubt it

[muted igloo]

W name

[barren bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-missed-over-your-head-gif-8604199

[remote knoll]

real

[ember kayak]

nuh uh

[oak spruce]

real :P

[tired epoch]

andrea is his first name also

[muted igloo]

Same

[versed egret]

i think we gotta tell Redbull its not Singapore yet

[polar star]

I dont think hes winning it next year

[winged dagger]

don’t they always struggle in singapore

max never won in singapore

[proper sandal]

guys sorry if im butting in but wtf happened during the race

i went to sleep around lap 32 and oscar was still leading

was there a sc?

[winged dagger]

oscar pitted and leclerc won with an one stop strategy

aston martin pitting lance in lap 52

fucked up alonso chances of getting points

max vs lewis but not for first place

meh

[raven wagon]

No not always

Since 2018, highest Redbull finish was P2, P3, P1 and P5

[dim hawk]

at least someone on the alpine team (the pit crew) were focused today 🙏

[muted igloo]

Admin as well

[hallow wren]

LMAO CHAT I JUST REALISED

LOGAN SARGEANT GOT PROMOTED!!!

FROM SAR TO COL!!!!

HE'S NOW A COLONEL

[chrome oasis]

[lyric fjord]

HHAHHAHAHHA

[errant kiln]

This is the best type of coping I’ve ever seen

[gentle jasper]

@amber hill

[hallow wren]

indeed 😦

[remote knoll]

💀

[versed egret]

HAHAHA

[quick oak]

Today has made me feel better despite the fact that I just witnessed a 6 second pitstop for Verstappen

Lando losing P1 after the first turn, it's in his DNA

Leclerc is FERRARI

[sharp glacier]

he lost it at the third turn

atleast not the first turn ig

[livid root]

Ye he still lost in lap 1

[remote knoll]

Lando race Oscar harder

in Baku

[desert ingot]

true

[cobalt crypt]

alpine domination

[pearl crest]

how many races left??

[narrow garnet]

Oscar described Stroll as "driving like he was in his first go kart race" 💀

[snow swan]

At least 1.

I do believe 8 tho!

[desert ingot]

not in the context

[snow swan]

Does anyone have an updated grid for 2025?

Tell me how Zhou and Ricciardo don't have seats...are they really comparable?

I would have expected Ricciardo to at least have a spot. Guess not ):

[tough spade]

When is Redbulls next upgrade package?

[sharp glacier]

lol

ur funny

[livid leaf]

Probably never

[cinder star]

L McLaren pit strategy

[oblique junco]

sauber is locked in

[snow swan]

RB seeing Newey make aerodynamic upgrades for another team next year

[kindred cedar]

Uh he might if perez is kicked cus of performance

[snow swan]

Flashbacks

[icy walrus]

Not the result i expected but it is what it is

[grave cosmos]

imagine LEwis Hamilton winning at Monza next year, it would be chaos as chaos as Leverkeusen winning the Bundesliga title

[winged dagger]

No contract signed. Liam will probably fill in the VCARB vacant seat and Bottas will probably resign for next year so my guess is both of them will leave next year

Zhou probably goes to another racing series

[edgy creek]

opinion on slots liverpool?

[cosmic vapor]

ferrari slower stops than sauber

but ferrari best team today

im pretty sure they scored more than mclaren no

no they lost two points to mclaren

damn it

[regal needle]

Morning Team. Haven't got any News if Gabriel Bortoleto will be the New Sauber Driver to Team Up with Nico

[craggy zenith]

well it's 1-4 vs 2-3 soooooo

[regal needle]

Hopefully Fernando plans is Complete to bring Gabriel to Sauber

[cosmic vapor]

sigh

theres always some bad takeaway from being a ferrari fan

[craggy zenith]

37 points compared to 33 points

[winged dagger]

I think it will be Bottas for the next season no? Gabriel will join in 2026 hipefully

[craggy zenith]

so no actually Ferrari scored more points

just

[cosmic vapor]

on the other hand leclerc is closing in on lando

[regal needle]

Gonna expecting News Later

[winged dagger]

34 for McLaren

[craggy zenith]

still behind on McLaren in the constructors

[winged dagger]

18 + 16

[regal needle]

Including who will replace Kevin for Next Week while he serve his Penalty Ban

[craggy zenith]

oh yeah fastest lap

[winged dagger]

Lando fastest lap

[wet sequoia]

No point signing rookies in 2026

[winged dagger]

Ferrari 25 + 12

37

yep

[craggy zenith]

so it's like 10 points to Red Bull

[regal needle]

Gabriel deserve to get that 2025 Seat with Sauber maybe

[craggy zenith]

and Ferrari 40 points to Red Bull

[regal needle]

Fernando want him in F1

[craggy zenith]

tbh at this point Ferrari might demote them to 3rd

[winged dagger]

Ollie Bearman again 🙏🏻

[craggy zenith]

i think Merc is too far behind

[wet sequoia]

Bearman is the smart choice

More F1 experience is best for him

[craggy zenith]

the obvious choice

he still has 2 more FP1 sessions

might as well use one of them as a grand prix weekend

[regal needle]

Ollie deserve to take the Seat Early for Baku

He is almost Ready soon in 2025

[cosmic vapor]

ohhhh

very nice

ladies and gentlemen

i think we have ourselves a 3 way title fight

[craggy zenith]

Red Bull really gonna go from dominant to being 3rd place

should've replaced Checo a couple months ago, ey Red Bull?

[winged dagger]

I think Bearman will replace KMag yeah

[craggy zenith]

ngl

[winged dagger]

Logic bc he’s taking the Haas seat next year

[cosmic vapor]

even ric would have done better than perez

[craggy zenith]

why don't they just pull a Colapinto at this point?

[craggy zenith]

yes he would

better suited to that car

as proven by his tyre test last year

[cosmic vapor]

ong

[craggy zenith]

at the very least, top 5 finishes all year

[winged dagger]

also did better than tsunoda in the last few races

[craggy zenith]

would've gotten way more points in Canada if the clutch wasn't fucked

like the car has been unreliable as fuck and the team's strategy is a joke

also i bet he beats Kmag to points if his team didn't fuck him over

[winged dagger]

sure he’s not at his prime anymore, was out for more than half of the 2023 season

[craggy zenith]

and had Ricciardo not been a dick to Kmag at the start but that's a different story

[winged dagger]

but he would still do better than checo

[winged dagger]

but yeah drive to survive shows that daniel in a red bull would be “next to max on the grid”

which indicates he would do well

still

[craggy zenith]

bro at this point, ask Vettel to come back

i would rather take bee man in the retirement home than Checo

[winged dagger]

hell even Mark Webber who retired for 8 years would do better

[craggy zenith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6BCoTl8p84

Bring back DC

he has the dance skills

[winged dagger]

Tbf every driver on the grid would do better than Checo

[snow swan]

Simply Lovely

[craggy zenith]

bro why is Norris so sad now

even when he won in Zandvoort, he looked like he came P5

are we entering the Lando Norris Emo era?

[raw plaza]

Charles leclerc has saved red bulls ass two races in a row

😭😂

from pastry getting p2 in Zandvoort

and a McLaren 1-2 this time

[craggy zenith]

bro became the immovable object

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man2-spider-man-spider-man2train-fight-tobey-maguire-train-fight-gif-26415193

Charles when Piastri behind him

[raw plaza]

If McLaren had a 1-2 they would lead championship

[lucid sable]

I still can't believe it happened

[last magnet]

Ferrari also won 6 hours of COTA

P1 and P3

[icy walrus]

Colapinto preformed decent on debut tbf though

[wet sequoia]

Yeah no way would Sargeant have saved the car in Q1 or moved 6 places up the grid

[versed egret]

@winged dagger hi Lucas, pronounced without an s.

[wooden kettle]

yeah 6 grid places is kinda

[grim egret]

will buxton was fuming at mclaren
i never seen him like that
litteraly exploding with rage

I however do agree with him

[fluid yew]

Guys answer a question for me

Following Kevin Magnussen's one-race ban, can Haas "sub in" bearman or someone else? Or can they only race one driver at az

[stiff bough]

they'll sub in bearman yes

anytime a driver is unable to complete a weekend for whatever reason, they can be replaced

of course, that is as long as the replacing driver gets the call up before qualifying at the latest

[craggy zenith]

Unless your name is Nikita Mazepin

They didn't even bother subbing for him in Abu Dhabi

Even though Fittipaldi couldn't have done a worse job than he did all season

[craggy zenith]

Same with Grosjean back in 2012 the last time someone was banned; they subbed D'Ambrosio into his lotus seat

[grim egret]

sometimes its better to not field anyone at all

isnt f2 racing in baku that same weekend?

[craggy zenith]

Yeah but given his results in F2 and the fact he's driving for the team next year

Doesn't really matter if he doesn't race

I mean F3 just finished so Prema could bring in one of their F3 squad to replace him

And also bearman's done this before in Saudi

[grim egret]

wonder who that will be

[craggy zenith]

At least he has more warning this time

[craggy zenith]

My bet: Lindblad

[grim egret]

get a nice chance to upgrade

ahh yes

[craggy zenith]

I mean they could bring in Dino, one Ferrari junior for another

But I have my money on Lindblad

[cold solar]

nooo pls no mr brown for gods
sake start prioritizing lando

[meager ridge]

didnt realise there would be no race this weekend 😔

[grim egret]

baku is far away from italy to make a tripple header

[stiff bough]

Had to google this because i completely forgot he had covid, he did do quali so unfortunately he wouldnt have even been able to have been subbed out anyway

[craggy zenith]

Ah yeah

Makes sense

[grim egret]

so once you do quali thats the end of being eligable to be subbed out?

[stiff bough]

Yes.

The replacement driver has to participate in at least one (1) practice session, and since qualifying is classified as a practice session, that's the cutoff.

[sullen wren]

Can’t wait for Azerbaijan. Such a fun race

[raven wagon]

That wasnt the case last year

Nor was 2022 tbf

[unkempt wasp]

I disliked it because you begged people to rate an edit.

[heady prairie]

bro thats my new channel why u so rage rn

[thin berry]

It goes to #creative + don’t ask people to rate or comment please, rule 3

[narrow garnet]

Stella has said they will now consider using team orders

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cvg3z3zxgq4o

[unkempt wasp]

Can't wait for Piastri to embrace the Raikkonen within and completely fuck it up.

[sly badger]

RedBull is too cooked

[dire bison]

We already knew 😭

[pure aurora]

not consider, please do

oscar has no shot at WDC but lando does this year

[hallow wren]

i can honestly see osc doing a vettel against webber 💀

[hallow wren]

imagine a back to back championship for mclaren

[autumn sundial]

Im here for the chaos in mclaren for wdc gonna make this championship more interesting

[hallow wren]

nah im here for kmag ban

[pure aurora]

would be so peak

[hallow wren]

like bro lando wdc now then osc wdc for '25

shit would be peak

[autumn sundial]

Mag is a legend 😌 I living for him and what he does

[regal needle]

Ferrari just found their New Sponsorship to replace Santander

They will sponsored by Italian Largest Bank, UniCredit

[crude flame]

second largest

[late tide]

I’m here for lando wdc and ferrari wcc

don’t @ me

[coarse obsidian]

McClowns

[normal notch]

I literally got a Ferrari hat at the beginning of the year hoping it would last a long time, and now they have brought in HP and dropped Santander. Sponsorships are completely changed now… 💀

[regal needle]

Having Banks Sponsor always Ferrari Choice

[uncut magnet]

@late tide

[late tide]

aaaghh….

[vernal holly]

Too little too late

The problem with McLaren is that they’re constantly asking their drivers for approval on plans

They need to be assertive

[kindred cedar]

i mean at least u dont need to go around wearing hp

[grim egret]

not a world champion mentality

[remote knoll]

because he is upset with the result?

[grim egret]

no lando goes in a self sabotage melancholic meltdown

i think he has depression issues or something

[remote knoll]

[grim egret]

and he even said lewis had the best car so winning was easy

[proper monolith]

who will race instead of mag in baku?

[next fable]

Depression is really Bad and nothing funny tbh

[split bane]

Bearman

[grim egret]

who said it was funny?

[grim egret]

confirmed?

[split bane]

Not official but it's most likely to be like that

[grim egret]

okay

[cyan saffron]

Not yet but the question is just when and not if.

[remote knoll]

no one other than Oliver Bearman 🇬🇧

[next fable]

Some haters jk?

[mellow lantern]

or Pietro Fittipaldi, but most likely Bearman

[remote knoll]

no

Give the driver your signing more experience

[grim egret]

i think its 90% bearman, will help him get some feel on his future team too

[remote knoll]

and the driver most likely to score points

or be closer to points

[mellow lantern]

yeah

[remote knoll]

Fittipaldi can stay in IndyCar

[grim egret]

bearman has more points than ocon

[cyan saffron]

They could actually just sack K-Mag entirely at this point and continue the whole rest of the season with Ollie.

[grim egret]

yeah pointless really kmag looks so out of it, he still hasnt secured a team right?

only sauber has a seat open and vcarb?

[cyan saffron]

yes

K-Mag is kinda confirmed out of F1.

[grim egret]

i think retirement too most likely

[split bane]

I don't think Haas wants to do things too quickly, it would create internal discussions and they would lose continuity.

[split bane]

Maybe he's one of the many drivers hoping for the seat in Sauber.

[grim egret]

yeah i am leaning on that too

but to be honest I want to see, kmag, bottas and riccairdo gone for some fresh faces

[remote knoll]

Yeah do a James Vowles

[cyan saffron]

just in correct

[split bane]

I want to see Ricciardo in RB again before his retirement

[grim egret]

thats just for nostalgic purposes

not for actual performance purpose

[split bane]

also to see if he can do better than Perez

[remote knoll]

Tbh since the car is regressing I no longer see the point in that

Checo will get closer to Max if the car stays on this path

[grim egret]

might not

[split bane]

To see if it is just Verstappen that can carry the car on the top even if the car isn't on the top of performance

[grim egret]

especially if its the same GP2 engine they are giving checo

[remote knoll]

Max is no longer carrying the car to the top

the car is not capable of that

[split bane]

In Italy Max was having also engine issues

[remote knoll]

yeah

we don't know how much that effected him tho

[split bane]

So he was going slower and staying on the times of Perez

[split bane]

I think he had to slow down atleast

[grim egret]

is newey not involved in the team anymore or what?

[remote knoll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stiff bough]

Not in the same capacity he used to be.

[split bane]

There's no news and complete silence on him but this month there should be the announcement on which team he's going in

[grim egret]

i am not talking about where he is going to, I am asking is he still working at red bull? is he designing upgrades etc

[split bane]

No he isn't working in Red-Bull since miami gp

[pure aurora]

nope

hes been taken a smaller and smaller role for the last few years

[grim egret]

oh so he is completly gone

isnt miami the race where FIA changed that brake system rule

the Goat

[cold solar]

help me
mclaren is making me sad
they arent acting like a championship winning team
Im depressed watching mclaren fuck landos wdc

no more of this

please

[grim egret]

mclaren did nothing to sabotage that

[cold solar]

coulda done team orders

coulda gave lando +7 points in hungary

[grim egret]

wasnt lando given that lead by mclaren?

it wasnt on merit?

i cant remember

[cold solar]

also the british gp

oh well

[grim egret]

lando lost p1 in silverstone

thats on him

pole is the best place you can be to win a race and lando cant win even with that

its not mclarens fault. they are giving him all the tools he need and he is not building anything

[pure aurora]

nope, oscar won that fair and square

lando shoudnt have bottled the start

[grim egret]

exactly

[pure aurora]

anyway Lando winning WDDC is a bit of a stretch

its possible but the odds are like

65/35

[feral shell]

Gasly is underrated

[still forge]

Lando WDC is still possible
The next double header will be make or break for that, Redbull will absolutely suffer there

[grim egret]

starting p2 behind norris is actually pole

singapore they will suffer but i dont know about baku they might build something