monaco-gp

[dawn moon]

red bull seems to be on that path rn

[hushed olive]

well not merc they have been so fast in the last races

[dawn moon]

seeing as multiple people are leaving the team

[hushed olive]

but idk about red bull

[dawn moon]

3/4 merc wins last 4 races

[hushed olive]

red bull have been 2 races in a row without podium

and 4 without wins

[mossy axle]

No way

They were a solid top team last race

[dawn moon]

they havent been as consistent as 2023

[hushed olive]

max penalty and checo being checo is what made the dissapointing result but they were good at quali

[dawn moon]

(not everybody is perfect)

[mossy axle]

The midfield is so far away from redbull

their development rate has to get worse then Aston for it to happend

[dawn moon]

well

red bull arent the fastest rn

verstappen got beat by leclerc (no way ferrari podium)

[hushed olive]

fastest could be either merc or mclaren

[dawn moon]

mclaren are the fastest

then merc

[hushed olive]

merc was def faster last race

[dawn moon]

then its a race for 3rd between ferrari and red bull

[hushed olive]

but mclaren has been overall better all season

[dawn moon]

5th is either AMR or VCARB

alpine vs haas for p7

actually

no

haas p6

alpine p7

vcarb p8

ik danny ric got points last race but still the car isnt too good rn

then theres williams and sauber p9 and p10

[proud grotto]

i like your pfp

it's like that one youtuber who draws things

i forgot her name

[hushed olive]

merc in this season reminds me alot of mclaren last year

[cosmic vapor]

WOOHOOOO

[cosmic vapor]

honestly no

ferrari is out of the picture

the only reason leclerc podiumd was because he put that tractor on pole somehow

fucking goat

[tall cloak]

Can't believe that Carlos Sainz Vázquez de Castro Cenamor Rincón Rebollo Virto Moreno de Aranda Don Per Urrielagoiria Pérez del Pulgar Is going to Williams next year

[snow swan]

Who?

[tall cloak]

Carlos Sainz Vázquez de Castro Cenamor Rincón Rebollo Virto Moreno de Aranda Don Per Urrielagoiria Pérez del Pulgar.

[snow swan]

I don’t know this person

[tall cloak]

Its Carlos Sainz

That's His "Full name"

[snow swan]

I know I’m messing

[tall cloak]

Carlos Sainz Vázquez de Castro Cenamor Rincón Rebollo Virto Moreno de Aranda Don Per Urrielagoiria Pérez del Pulgar.

[snow swan]

Isn’t there supposed to be a jr somewhere

[tall cloak]

It's is supposed

You know sheet abt Carlos Sainz father

[tacit seal]

Does f1 have a new intro or something because these past 2 races there have been a new intro instead of the old one

[wet sequoia]

No

Unless your broadcaster is being funny or does there own thing g

[tacit seal]

Oh

[wooden kettle]

the one with the dubstep or

[tacit seal]

Idk

[karmic token]

The mariachi version slaps

[remote knoll]

true

[versed egret]

1 month with no f1

nvm

20days with no f1

ok

[lilac nova]

Impatiently waiting for news about Bottas’ contract extension.

Media:

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-waiting-gif-18068390

[mortal marsh]

tbh at this rate lewis is gonn overtake leclerc.

[quaint kite]

I honestly think piastri could end up finishing ahead of Lando if he keeps up the form he's had over the last few grand prix

[sly badger]

https://www.fxxinstagram.com/reel/C-K3gOCN0VY/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[pure aurora]

anything new frm the silly season?

[sly badger]

Nothing

[pure aurora]

aw im so bored

[sly badger]

Latest news was Binotto considering Bortoleto to Audi

[cold solar]

is that his full name

isnt it just this Carlos Sainz Vázquez de Castro Jr.

[tame oracle]

hi

[lunar quartz]

no f1 for a month

[cyan saffron]

😭

[coarse obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[tribal vapor]

1 week no f1, im tweakin🙏😭💔⛓️🥀

[kindred cedar]

Real

[coarse obsidian]

Can’t find something else to do?

[gleaming belfry]

juri vips back pls

[compact cove]

I'm getting serious withdrawals... I need f1... I can't even touch grass rn because i dont have any work to do for the next 2 weeks

The only consolation is I'm happy the drivers and everyone on the teams are getting their needed rest

[hushed olive]

Sprint race at belgium ?

Well max won the sprint in Austria so is the same points

[tropic parrot]

i wonder if checo will get a seat anywhere next season

i could see him at sauber tbh

[safe hare]

I could see him in (smart life racing f4 chinese team)

[merry island]

no same i’m literally dying

[hushed olive]

Where he started his career

[fathom sparrow]

If he dose it will be a backmarker team tho

[regal silo]

he has money

he will

[coarse obsidian]

Can you imagine if we would’ve won at Hungry?

[boreal lodge]

Wait there was a Belgium sprint

I don't remember there being one

This year

[wispy quest]

Who's most likely to get that Mercedes seat?

[cyan saffron]

Kimi

[wispy quest]

Is there an up to date graphic on the 2025 lineup?

[floral skiff]

did you know so many other motorsports exist other than just f1? take this time to watch something else

[tribal vapor]

i know dawg no reason to be hostile

🙏😭

[sly badger]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-AzC8_xgLH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

estagiariodaf1

RESTAM APENAS 4 VAGAS!

Veja como está o grid para a temporada 2025 após o anúncio de Carlos Sainz pela Williams

#F1 #Formula1 #Ferrari #Mercedes #Alpine #Audi

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[keen basin]

Logan Sargeant for Mercedes

[pure aurora]

real

im scrolling on r/f1 desparate for news

[pure aurora]

well the only mystery is sauber tbh. antonelli to merc, and riccardo to stay at VCARB. alpines probs going for doohan

[sly badger]

Nah,Ricciardo is not going to stay

They'll bring Lawson or someone else

[pure aurora]

unless perez gets the boot, riccc stays

[sly badger]

Also,there's the wild card of Verstappen leaving RedBull if all goes terrible this second half

[pure aurora]

probably not happening

like

[keen basin]

Toto Wolff is cooking

[proven leaf]

Mannnn the break is killing me

3 more weeks of this ?

Fuck this

Guys let's make our own f1

Vroom vroom

[wooden kettle]

me llaying 24

[native breach]

Watch like

TCR

[stiff bough]

motogp has races tomorrow and then next couple of weeks

[wooden kettle]

oh nice

[queen mason]

he's done

ion see him back

[ivory ginkgo]

😭😭😭

[queen mason]

surely he does

perez is almost certainly getting the boot

so either yuki or ricci go to rbr

and lawson to vcarb

[snow swan]

there was a rumour going around that horner confrimed there won't be any changes in their current driver lineup.

[long tusk]

fr , everything feels so boring

[twin gazelle]

because Liberty Media said so

[pure aurora]

same bro 😭

[remote knoll]

it's been 1 week 😭

[pure aurora]

IM DYING IN THE INSIDE WHERS ALL THE SILLY SEASON NEWS

[pure aurora]

Libery media have no say in RBR's drivers

[twin gazelle]

you never know ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wet sequoia]

F1 is entertainment to Liberty, not an actual sport, they own it to make money

[stiff bough]

Red Bull also own an F1 team to make money

Keeping Perez to keep Liberty happy doesn't benefit them in any way

they lose money from the constructors which they're bound to finish P2 in, plus the sponorship bonuses, and the employees back at the factory who bust their asses off also dont get to see their bonuses for winning the titles

[pure aurora]

RBR literally exists to sell drinks

[stiff bough]

I'd like to think they're more of a marketing company now, rather than an energy drinks company

[pure aurora]

Checos engineers are gonna be pissed

I do hope checo announces his retirement this year, at least he would go out with a... mid note

[stiff bough]

it'd be like binotto'

resigning with a push

[wet sequoia]

Considering the fact they’re in every sport in the world now you’d be right about that

Think Checo will get the boot

And I don’t think a seat will be available at another team for him

[pure aurora]

He might go to Sauber since they need the cashbags

[stiff bough]

not unless Alpine or Sauber give their open seat to a driver on a one year contract

[wet sequoia]

I can see Alpine doing it, Sauber depends on who is the 2nd driver and other driver contracts

Audi want stability into 2026

[stiff bough]

a one year sabbatical is doable, but with every contract looking like it wont be up until the end of 2026 minimum....

[wet sequoia]

Less worrying about driver contracts in 2026 and more focus into new regulations

[stiff bough]

he's certainly not got the luck Hulkenberg did

[wet sequoia]

I mean Hulkenburg is mid and experienced, I don’t expect him to be the top Audi driver

He’s very much good for qualifying

Although he also never has had the car for Sunday to get him to podiums

[stiff bough]

He's done well in the races, only recently starting to lag behind to Magnussen. But that's probably due to things outside of his control (not that ive looked that closely at him recently anyway)

[long rampart]

holy shi mazespin might actually go to alpine

ain’t no way

[narrow garnet]

big issue with these rumors, Mazepin does not currently have a super license and under the requirements for reobtaining one I don't believe he is eligible to get one in 2025 unless he somehow does 100km of FP testing this year, which isn't happening

[crude flame]

The issue with that rumor is the fact that literally anyone would believe even a part of them

Under no circumstance in no situation is Mazepin getting back to F1 ever again

[mortal marsh]

don't believe fake news chat

[cold solar]

nah even if they actually were bringing back mazepin
its alpine tryna get more content for dts
😂

[pure aurora]

he will not lmao

[long rampart]

agreed (but that would be funny)

[wet sequoia]

The month long period where everyone gets stupid

And where all the mid season changes occur

[pure aurora]

the drama is insane

[wet sequoia]

Not really

There is speculation and there is Mazespin and Sargeant driving next year 🤦

[pure aurora]

if checo keeps driving, so can Logan

[wet sequoia]

Checo has money

Sargeant has nothing

Only a single career point by DSQ

[scenic cypress]

sargeant is better than checo and i go as far to say riccardio

[pure aurora]

well

not riccardo

[wet sequoia]

Anybody is better then Checo at this point in time

He’s the only driver currently to actually lose places without anything making it worse

[hearty siren]

Even a Stroll? 😂

[wet sequoia]

Hold on, I need like 6 shots of Fireball for this

Yes even Stroll would be a better option in that Red Bull then fooking Checo

[pure aurora]

he brings the same amount of money anyway

[sacred compass]

Sargent has out qualified Perez 7 times and this was even when Perez had the fastest car on the grid

[tropic shuttle]

With thanks to McLaren's implementation of Ferrari strategies

[pure aurora]

silverstone was painful

[tropic shuttle]

It is, McLaren have the best car of 2024 thus far. Being able to lock horns and sometimes beat Verstappen in qualifying. Idk what comes over them in race day that they must fuck it up

By the same token, @pure aurora I also have a feeling that this statement will be published.
"McLaren dominance could bore F1 fans."
-Lewis Hamilton, Scuderia Ferrari, 2025

[pure aurora]

Lol

[sage pike]

Gang I neeed these

[crude flame]

cringe

[sage pike]

What

[coarse obsidian]

If you took off all the logos except for Nike and Air Jordan it would be better

[scenic cypress]

perez is fucking shit man

mick does a better job

[tropic shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-yes-gif-take-my-money-shut-up-and-take-my-money-gif-8581127

[sage pike]

The color scheme is nice, but the whole point is that's its Alonso merch

[coarse obsidian]

And you can do that without all those logos, too much, gaudy. The color scheme would be enough. Just look at other Jordans.

[wooden kettle]

… i like the logos ngl

[coarse obsidian]

🤮

[wary forge]

I want em

[sage pike]

Im so mad that it's just concept

[vivid aspen]

Spectacular give me 14 of them now

[sage pike]

I wish I could, I love nando as much as you do but these are concept shoes 😭

[vivid aspen]

WE BUILD 🔥🔥🔥

[sage pike]

HELL YEAHH

[vivid aspen]

Fr, in Indonesia i need a F1 collab between like a brand or what

We got puma tho

[sage pike]

Ferrari

[vivid aspen]

Yeah

I love Ferrari (until i died)
But i NEED ALONSO MERCH

[sage pike]

Me too man

IM dying to find a Renault t shirt or something like that

THE LIVERY IS SO SLEPT ON TOO

[vivid aspen]

Fr, i am dreaming that nando is my cool uncle

[vivid aspen]

RENAULT 2005 AND 2006 IS THE BEST LIVERY

[sage pike]

He's legit my dad

I am Chris alonso

[sage pike]

I KNOW

[vivid aspen]

THE MILD SEVEN IS LIKE WOAHH

[sage pike]

Mhm

The racing point livery also slept on

/force india

[vivid aspen]

Yeah yeah fr

[sage pike]

I hope aston martin wakes up man

[vivid aspen]

HONDAAAA🔥🔥

But fr, i just realized that McLaren maybe have a beef with alonso

[sage pike]

Mclaren Honda days are not enjoyable

[vivid aspen]

Fr

The McLaren merc still can be enjoyed, but McLaren Honda? Hell nawh

[snow swan]

what do u guys think is gonna be the next announcement

[mortal prairie]

carlos sainz cancels contract with williams, goes to redbull, replacing sergio perez

[vernal holly]

TIME SINCE THE LAST WIN

1 - Hamilton: 7 days
2 - Piastri: 14 days
3 - Russell: 1 month 5 days
4 - Verstappen: 1 month 12 days
5 - Leclerc: 2 months 9 days
6 - Norris: 2 months 30 days
7 - Sainz: 4 months 11 days
8 - Pérez: 1 year 3 months 5 days
9 - Bottas: 2 years 9 months 25 days
10 - Ricciardo: 2 years 10 months 23 days
11 - Ocon: 3 years 3 days
12 - Gasly: 3 years 10 months 29 days
13 - Alonso: 11 years 2 months 23 days

[mortal prairie]

nah it's been nearly a month and a half since last verstappen win

2024 is wild

peak f1

bit of an overstatement actually

[vivid aspen]

Alonso

Damn...

[snow swan]

https://tenor.com/view/fernando-alonso-mewing-gif-3701152284312377299

this makes me to ask a question can we see alonso winning a race before his retirement?

[karmic token]

Ocon won a race, so anything is possible

[coarse obsidian]

And Lewis won after 2 years of not

[cosmic vapor]

damn only 2 months it feels like an eternity since leclerc won :((

that could have been 7 days only if leclerc cooked a little more in spa but 😞

[craggy zenith]

nah

the Ferrari simply didn't have the pace

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-pfp-anime-pfp-opinion-profile-gif-24421794

[kindred cedar]

time since pole is 7 days tho f

[cosmic vapor]

💪

best qualifier on the grid imho

[wooden kettle]

alonso hurts

[lilac nova]

Week 2 of summer break starting.

NEED Valtteri Bottas news ❗

https://tenor.com/view/sbin-f1-formula-1-bottas-valteri-gif-12127062283767678182

[simple anchor]

I miss f1

[floral hound]

Real

[cosmic vapor]

no way he doesnt have a seat

botty :(((

[lilac nova]

[pure aurora]

new news anyone?

im dying of boredom

[hushed olive]

Bottas is behind sargeant in the standings 😭

He went from winning races to a decent Midfielder to 0 points

[pure aurora]

the car is just ass

[hushed olive]

Ik

That sauber is a rock with wheels

[coarse obsidian]

With patience Nico and maybe Bottas will scoring points in a better car in 2026.

[cosmic vapor]

same man

[remote knoll]

road america was pretty fun

[remote knoll]

When was the last race Valtteri won?

[wooden kettle]

rally is fun to watch

[oblique junco]

el padre winning as usual

[pure aurora]

that was 11 years ago holy shit

[still forge]

Turkey 2021

[cunning flame]

Roscoe in a G-Wagon

[lime fog]

roscoe :)

[hushed olive]

Turkey 2021

[remote knoll]

oh

[pure aurora]

holy smokes was that a while ago

[snow swan]

Ciao!

[sly badger]

https://www.fxxinstagram.com/reel/C9P4Qi9PJpc/?igsh=MXBlOHg5NXhla3I2ZA==

[lyric rover]

2027 F1 Predictions:
VER-LAW
LEC-NOR
PIA-GAS
RUS-ANT
STR-TSU
DOO-MSC
HAD-IWA
ALB-SAI
HUL-POU (I couldn't find the Audi logo)
OCO-TAP

[wet sequoia]

What did you take to think Gasly into McLaren, Mick gets back into F1, Bearman gone after a year and Iwasa gets to F1?

Also what is your 2026 prediction?

[lyric rover]

One of the McLaren drivers will have friction with the team and decide to depart for the Scuderia in place of Hamilton. Gasly has been linked to McLaren before and he would prefer the better environment. Since Alpine don't have much options, they would probably go with the more experienced driver in Mick.

As for Iwasa, both Ricciardo and Tsunoda depart the Red Bull family, leaving room for Hadjar and Iwasa.

(Ricciardo races for Red Bull in 2025-26 before retiring)

[wet sequoia]

Hadjar yes, Iwasa not really

[lyric rover]

Well who else would take it up?

[wet sequoia]

By that point he’ll be to old to be a F1 rookie

Bortoleto has a better chance

[lyric rover]

Oh yes him too

I heard he's a 2025 candidate for Audi as well

[wet sequoia]

Mick won’t have much luck unless he wins WEC (Which he won’t)

[lyric rover]

its now or never

The three options he have are slim

Imo his best chance is Audi

(If he can convince Wheatley)

[wet sequoia]

Ah yes an all German lineup for a German team

Where have we seen that singularity before

[lyric rover]

Audi do want drivers of their own home

[wet sequoia]

Looking at you Alpine 😈

Maloney would do better for Sauber next year then Schumacher, even then I’d still take Pourchaire over Schumacher

While Drugovich forever a reserve

[winged dagger]

HAM and ALO retired by then? I think ALO might stay until like fucking 2028

[wet sequoia]

Nah even Alonso is unsure if he’ll stay behind 2026, unless he wins races next year or in 2026 he’ll retire for someone new 2027

[hexed raven]

SILLY SEAASSONNN

[winged dagger]

What about HAM

[hexed raven]

🤪

[winged dagger]

I think he still has a few years left

At least

[hexed raven]

nah

i don’t think so

he’s gonna retire in less than 4 years

[winged dagger]

It does make sense because he’s already 39

And has already established himself

[hexed raven]

exactly so he doesn’t need to take a seat anymore he needs to leave it for newcomers

he definitely still got some in him

but it’s not gonna last long

he’s gonna be 40 and racing

that’s crazy

that’s why 4 years or less he’s gonna retire

trust me

[winged dagger]

Alonso turned 43 recently

[hexed raven]

he’s retiring soon tho

[winged dagger]

But yeah he might stop in 2026

[hexed raven]

egg zacktet

see

🙄

i’m right

[winged dagger]

Danny Ric might have no seat next year

And might retire early damn

Idk what Kmag will do

[little kestrel]

Yeah if Aston cannot change the direction where their development is at we might see Alonso retire before 2026.

[remote knoll]

kmag can go to endurance racing

[winged dagger]

i dont want to see bottas leave tho

but he lost motivation

just there for the money

[hexed raven]

yup

[winged dagger]

Aston has potential to be a top team

[little kestrel]

Potential but their upgrade path has been atrocious and Fernando has no patience with long term with teams ever.

[hexed raven]

i couldn’t send the sticker i wanted

😭😭😭😭😭

it’s too big

[little kestrel]

Danny def has a seat but with a Red Bull seat by the end of the season.

[hexed raven]

newey is still deciding between mclaren and aston so they really could be

[little kestrel]

What about Ferrari?

[hexed raven]

he rejected a team i think it was ferrari

[little kestrel]

Source

I haven't heard about this at all

[hexed raven]

yea for sure but there was a rumor about keeping checo until the us gps because without him the sells are gonna be lowwwwww

and the helicopter video of max and danny was like a hard launch of them as teammates

but since the company that sells the tickets for the us gps said not yet to the teammates changing to redbull they might not until after the gps

butttt it’s just a rumor

so take it with a grain of salt

[hexed raven]

i saw it on ig let me find it

[little kestrel]

US GP makes sense but why not wait until after Mexico GP?

It is after the US

[hexed raven]

yea ur right they prolly meant all of north n central America

these are the only ones i found

the one on the right is prolly fake

[little kestrel]

yeah the one to the right is known to make up shit

[hexed raven]

THIS

THIS IS THE ONE

[remote knoll]

i wouldnt trust formula planet

or just rely on them

[little kestrel]

What was the command for all of the list of sources to trust and not trust

[remote knoll]

.sources

[jade mural]

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[winged dagger]

hes joininng a british team right

[hexed raven]

oooo this is good

thank u!

[hexed raven]

no idea

[wet sequoia]

Nah he’ll retire after Ferrari implode him

[little kestrel]

Ferrari is the death of WDC drivers go.

[winged dagger]

Leclerc still surviving surprisingly

[twin veldt]

Verstappen to mercedes could happen i reckon

mercedes car is better than the red bull, with the red bull staff leaving and the jos vs horner fiasco, the writings on the wall

if verstappen - mercedes actually happens (imo its 50 50)

heres what i would think would be the driver lineups

MERC: VER, RUS
MCL: PIA, NOR
FER: LEC, HAM
RED: RIC, SAI (i believe theres a contract clause with the williams contract)
AST: TSU, STR
RB: LAW, HAD
WIL: ALB, ANT
HAAS: OCO, BEA
ALP: GAS, DOO
KICK: HUL, BOR

FULL SILLY SEASON TRANSFERS

HAM - Ferrari replace sainz
Sainz- Red Bull replaces perez
Perez- AXED
Verstappen - Merc fills Hamiltons spot
Ricciardo - Red Bull replaces Verstappen
Lawson (rookie) - RB replaces Ricciardo

Alonso- Retires
Tsunoda - Aston
Hadjar (rookie) - RB replaces Tsunoda

Antonelli (rookie) - Williams replaces Sargeant
Sargeant AXED

Hulkenberg - Kick replaces Zhou
Zhou AXED
Bearman (rookie) - Haas replaces Hulkenberg

Ocon- Haas replaces Magnussen
Magnussen AXED
Doohan (rookie) - Alpine replaces Ocon

Bortoletto (rookie) replaces Bottas
Bottas Retires

[karmic token]

I think Lewis will refuse to retire before Alonso

[unkempt wasp]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-NSUH5NSR3/?igsh=MTBpdTJtNng0a212eg==

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𝗥𝗲𝗱 𝗕𝘂𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗻𝗼 𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗺 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗶𝗿 𝗯𝘂𝗱𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗮𝗱𝗱𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗶𝘀𝘀𝘂𝗲𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗥𝗕𝟮𝟬 𝗰𝗮𝗿

Red Bull has no room to allocate extra budget to fix the RB20 car!

The team is approaching the $140 million budget cap set by the FIA, largely due to accidents involving Perez. Coupled with reduced wind tunnel runs due to the Balance of Performance (BoP) regulations, th...

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I am trusting of this source

[wooden kettle]

ngl i dont trust that

[unkempt wasp]

Fair

I thought the budget cap regards R&D

Rebuilding cars isn't included

[wooden kettle]

how many times has checo even crashed this season

[winged dagger]

2026 szn possible

sainz is staying at williams for 2025 then 2026 he can leave

[unkempt wasp]

I am not sure which is better, but I think Mercedes could offer Verstappen more money on a two year contract than RB.

I know the Max-Stans say it too much, but Max is the best driver on the grid right now. He could get the Alpine or the Sauber into the top 5 every race for the rest of the season.

[unkempt wasp]

I am tipping either McLaren, Red Bull, or Ferrari will offer Sainz a seat for 2026.

He has a future.

Max I believe will leave RB for Mercedes for 2026 so Sainz will likely return to RB

I don't reckon Norris will have a seat come 2027

[winged dagger]

Although I want to see Mick return, he was never good

[twin veldt]

There’s a clause in sainz contract that if a red bull seat becomes available he can sign with red bull and his contract Williams is void

[winged dagger]

Will BEA survive after a szn with Haas tho? Will he feature in 2026? Some of the rookies might be axed after a year

[twin veldt]

Between Bortoletto, Antonelli, Doohan, Hadjar, Lawson and Bearman

I think bearmans most likely to be given the chop

[unkempt wasp]

Schumacher's best bet is to become a team principal.

His name gets sponsors, but he isn't a WDC driver.

I wish his Dad was able to tell him that he doesn't have to be a WDC.

[twin veldt]

Call me biased because I share the same passport as doohan but I see a lot of promise with him

[winged dagger]

True especially in a Haas. Doesn’t help if your teammate’s Ocon

[twin veldt]

The order I would say with the most promise and potenial would be

• Lawson
• Bortoletto
• Antonelli
• Doohan
• Hadjar
• Bearman

[unkempt wasp]

I want Albo to invest in an Australian HOLDEN F1 Team once Cadillac's engine is available.

Piastri and Doohan.

Riccardo as a Team Principal.

Reserve TBC

[twin veldt]

I think ocon paired with a rookie is actually a good move. Esteban’s a good benchmark, but I think a better rookie should’ve been at haas

[lyric rover]

Doohan is criminally underrated

[twin veldt]

Facts

[lyric rover]

nah Ocon will be too far ahead for any team friction to happen

[winged dagger]

Lawson has the most experience among all of them

[lyric rover]

At first I thought "Bearman's doomed" but it won't even matter

[twin veldt]

Same as Bortoletto, like dudes in his first f2 season and is fucking killing it

[lyric rover]

Bearman was ALREADY doomed in fact

[winged dagger]

Kimi is mid in F2, Ollie is more mid

[unkempt wasp]

I will tell you to be SILENT

||I am mate's with Bearman's cousin. We have a full discord full of Bearman fans ready to go.||

[lyric rover]

yeah he could still win the title

[winged dagger]

Who’s leading in F2 rn?

[lyric rover]

Antonelli is a top-6 worthy driver, at least he's focusing on F2 instead of F1 (cough Bear)

[lyric rover]

Isack Hadjar

[lyric rover]

Bearman disrespected Lewis Hamilton in this very server. You think we gonna let that slide?

[unkempt wasp]

Hadjar and Lawson need a seat next year or Red Bull can get effed

[unkempt wasp]

THEN IT WAR!!!!

||Jokes||

[twin veldt]

He’ll give Audi there first title tbh

[lyric rover]

I think that would be Nico Hulkenberg taking it first

[unkempt wasp]

Have you heard that Maloney is likely to go to Indycar?

[twin veldt]

He’ll be on the decline by the time Audi are a good car

[winged dagger]

Nico is a good driver still is top 10 in a Haas

[lyric rover]

For what team

[twin veldt]

He tested for indycar, sadly he’s just below the pack

Indycar would suite him tho

[lyric rover]

Well lets wait for Audi's decision because right now several drivers are in contention, Valtteri Bottas and Theo Pourchaire to name two.

[unkempt wasp]

I expect EVERYONE here to support Sargeant at Prema and Malony next year

I will be buying Sargeant merch. Even if he sucks

[twin veldt]

I think Bottas won’t be good in the long run, bottas would be suited at a place like haas

Pourchaire maybe

[lyric rover]

THATS WHAT I SAID

I KEPT SAYING BOTTAS SHOULD GO TO HAAS

AT LEAST THAT WAY BEARMAN COULD SUCCEED

ahem sorry for the rant

Might be resentment towards Prosparic Dropbear

[lyric rover]

In either 2025 or 2026, I can only see Bottas taking one more year

[twin veldt]

If Hadjar doesn’t get a seat that’d be a fuckin shame, comes down to if Alonso retires

[lyric rover]

And then Tsunoda moving there

[twin veldt]

Yeah

[unkempt wasp]

Tsunoda's best shot for a 26 seat is AM

[twin veldt]

Aston are starting a WEC team in 2025, so maybe stroll could go to wec and drugovich can get a seat but who knows

[unkempt wasp]

Dude... anyone but Ocon at Haas.

Ocon's conduct is so harmful to team.

I don't know what Gene Haas sees in the damned french fool

[unkempt wasp]

We watched the same YouTube video.

Stroll should go to WEC.

Solid driver, but he needs to work in a team .

[jade mural]

Congrats @unkempt wasp, you're now on lap 15

[lyric rover]

The only downside is Ocon's egoism at a teammate, thats it

But Ocon will be too far ahead of Bearman for any friction to happen

[twin veldt]

But he’s a good benchmark tho

[lyric rover]

Solid driver

[craggy marsh]

OCON IS GONNA GET HAAS FIRST WIN

[twin veldt]

I’d say Ocons prob the average f1 driver atm

Not good, not too shit

[craggy marsh]

When the french and Americans work togther

good things happen

1776 for example

[lyric rover]

"Pardon me, are you Aaron Burr, sir?"

[craggy marsh]

Hamilton Refrence!?!?!?

the great historical show about the best f1 driver of all time lewis hamilton!?!

[lyric rover]

wdym not good

Have you seen his 2023 season

All those retirements and still close to Gasly

[twin veldt]

Well he’s not gonna win a title or anything, but he’s a solid driver

[craggy marsh]

Ocan wdc 2028 trust

renualt engine will be the fastest on the grid once they lock in

[winged dagger]

can u play f1 24 without the steering wheel btw guys

[lyric rover]

I use keyboard

[twin veldt]

If this actually happens here’s what I would think would be the 2025 standings
1 PIA
2 VER
3 NOR
4 LEC
5 HAM
6 RIC
7 SAI
8 RUS
9 TSU
10 LAW
11 STR
12 OCO
13 DOO
14 HAD
15 GAS
16 ALB
17 BOR
18 HUL
19 ANT
20 BEA

[lyric rover]

Hamilton that low is fucking unbelievable

There is NO WAY he gets that low

Top 4 or top 5

[twin veldt]

Yeah ok it is a bit stiff

I’ll fix rq

[lyric rover]

thats better

[twin veldt]

I think Piastris a fucking gun, Norris will crack the shits
Verstappen will do well but just miss

[winged dagger]

RUS pretty low damn

[twin veldt]

Russel stiff, but I think he’s overrated

They’ll be a gap between 8th and 9th

[twin veldt]

Rookie of the year will go to Lawson, Contructors to McLaren

[winged dagger]

How about LAT and MAZ join 2025 szn and make a 1-2

😂

[twin veldt]

True

[winged dagger]

End of 24 prediction

1. VER
2. NOR
3. PIA
4. LEC
5. HAM

[twin veldt]

Tsunoda will get a podium, and they’ll be 6 different winners

[winged dagger]

Tsunoda is underrated I wished he had the RB seat

He did better than Dan Ric this year

[twin veldt]

ehh in the long run im going with ric

Tsunodas good, but in a team like red bull I can’t see it, with the Honda backing, Alonso’s eventual retirement, maybe stroll to wec, it’s a no brainer rlly

[winged dagger]

i don’t think stroll would leave f1 if daddy still exists

in all honesty he isnt a terrible driver

better than perez current form i argue

i see potenrial

[twin veldt]

Yeah but he’s been in the system for too long and has made zero progress

He should’ve been gone at prob 2021

He’s had more experience than Leclerc, Norris and Russell

[winged dagger]

Oh yeah that’s true

[lyric rover]

Mine is
VER
NOR
LEC
PIA
HAM

[twin veldt]

That’s a bit wild

[twin veldt]

VER
PIA
NOR
HAM
LEC

I think piastris better than Norris rn

[winged dagger]

Yeah but let’s see if his second half makes up for this first half to take over Lando in the ranking

[lyric rover]

He’s too far back to catch up

[pure aurora]

max in merc 😭

[winged dagger]

Currently? No doubt Oscar’s the better driver

[twin veldt]

It’s only a couple unlucky dnfs and losing prob 3-7 points per race for piastri to catch up

[pure aurora]

ehhh

Id say its still lando

[twin veldt]

50 50 chance I reckon, read the note

That whole grid was just what I would think could happen if Verstappen goes to merc

[unkempt wasp]

In this year's WDC, yes.

Next year he is going to make Lando start looking for work at as a No.2 or at Tescos

I would love a Max and Norris line up at Mercedes

[twin veldt]

Is there a chance Merc overtakes Red bull in the constructors standings?

[winged dagger]

I think McLaren wants to keep them both. Both are solid drivers but Lando isn’t championship worthy, at least not yet

[winged dagger]

Yeah, relatively small though. I think McLaren will win

[pure aurora]

probs not

[lyric rover]

All 7 Virtues as F1 Drivers:
Piastri - Temperance
Hamilton - Patience
Sargeant - Kindness
Leclerc - Humility
Albon - Chastity
Tsunoda - Diligence
Bottas - Charity

[pure aurora]

piastri is literally iceman fr

[winged dagger]

Lando is still quite young and he can improve

He’s 25? right

Nvm 25’s not that young

[twin veldt]

If Mercedes lock the fuck in they could overtake red bull but it be a big ask

If red bull don’t have any upgrades for the rest of the season, it’s a small chance

[pure aurora]

mclaren will probs win than

merc looks like 3rd in wcc

[twin veldt]

surely if merc overtake red bull in the wcc surely that’ll entice max

But that be such a ask

[winged dagger]

max will prob stay in rb next year

and danny will replace checo

[twin veldt]

Yeah probs, but it’s still a interesting prospect, imagine the chaos

[craggy marsh]

Piastri 2024 wdc

trust

[winged dagger]

where is he in the rankings rn? 4?

[twin veldt]

Ye

2025 is piastris year trust

[craggy marsh]

110 points behind max

needs to outscore max by 11 per gp

easy win for piastri

light work for the goat

[twin veldt]

Real

In all honesty that redbull is gonna get shitter and shitter

[craggy marsh]

Checo will lose the keys to the rb 20

[twin veldt]

If max loses the title (I.E McLaren need to fucking be useful) because of that red bull, he’s gonna be pissed

[twin veldt]

Checos gonna be racing in Indonesian F6 🔥

Checos gonna be starting each race from formula 3

[craggy marsh]

DO NOT DISRESPECT INDONESIAN F6 LIKE THAT

Checo is being demoted to 4th divison shri lanken snail racing

[twin veldt]

Real

[craggy marsh]

angry max-->open sauber seat--> audi in 2026

max to audi

[wet sequoia]

More like Max to Mercedes

[twin veldt]

facts

[craggy marsh]

Bro isnt a lewis copy cat

mf gonna be orginal

go to audi

[twin veldt]

MERC: VER, RUS
MCL: PIA, NOR
FER: LEC, HAM
RED: RIC, SAI (i believe theres a contract clause with the williams contract)
AST: TSU, STR
RB: LAW, HAD
WIL: ALB, ANT
HAAS: OCO, BEA
ALP: GAS, DOO
KICK: HUL, BOR

FULL SILLY SEASON TRANSFERS

HAM - Ferrari replace sainz
Sainz- Red Bull replaces perez
Perez- AXED
Verstappen - Merc fills Hamiltons spot
Ricciardo - Red Bull replaces Verstappen
Lawson (rookie) - RB replaces Ricciardo

Alonso- Retires
Tsunoda - Aston
Hadjar (rookie) - RB replaces Tsunoda

Antonelli (rookie) - Williams replaces Sargeant
Sargeant AXED

Hulkenberg - Kick replaces Zhou
Zhou AXED
Bearman (rookie) - Haas replaces Hulkenberg

Ocon- Haas replaces Magnussen
Magnussen AXED
Doohan (rookie) - Alpine replaces Ocon

Bortoletto (rookie) replaces Bottas
Bottas Retires

[twin veldt]

He’s gonna drive the safety car

[craggy marsh]

real

[craggy marsh]

williams wont take antoneli

they dont want to be a merc nursery

unless red bull pays and absurd amount and merc does as well antoneli wont be in a williams

itd probably be in the ball park of 30 mil euros combined

[unkempt wasp]

Indonesian Go Karts is a respectable sport.

If I get to marry my dream girl, I will be sending my son there.

If he doesn't out qualify Perez... I will have no son.

[unkempt wasp]

They did it for George, they will do it for Antonelli

[twin veldt]

If there’s no merc seat, what is there? another f2 season?

[craggy marsh]

yea that was before williams was sold

[pure aurora]

fr fr

[winged dagger]

Is it possible to do a project Lewis Hamilton with your son?

[timber idol]

if you told me in 2021 this is what the grid would look like in 4 years I wouldn’t believe you

[lilac nova]

ANNOUNCE BOTTAS

[pure aurora]

checo needs to get dropped fr

[pure aurora]

TO MERCEDES

[lilac nova]

Summer season getting miserable

[pure aurora]

ong why is their no news

im so bored

[lilac nova]

Ya same

[broken crater]

Poor carlos

[winged dagger]

I think he doesn’t have the motivation anymore lol. He should be fine retiring after this season. If he gets an offer he’ll just take it for the money

[lilac nova]

No doubt it is difficult to stay motivated while driving an absolute tractor

But I just want to see a Finnish driver in the series

[winged dagger]

I get you but that’s unlikely since Kick / Audi is looking for a rookie iirc?

[lilac nova]

Huh, any source on that? 😮

[twin veldt]

He’s done his time, best to move aside

[winged dagger]

They’re getting that Gabriel dude

[lilac nova]

I think Audi will bring experienced duo as full time drivers, for the first season at least.

They could then hire a younger driver / rookie as reserve driver and later promote the guy to full time driver.

For the longer term, I’m pretty sure they get a rookie like Bortoleto or then a German driver like Mick.

[winged dagger]

There might be a Cadillac team right

[sly badger]

Seems there was a leak of who is going to be Ferrari's next Head of Aerodynamics through Linkendin

[late tide]

i heard about this, he’s been working in the aero department of Ferrari for 10+ years

[sly badger]

I guess this means Adrian Newey isn't going to Ferrari

The Aston Martin or Williams rumors might be true overall

[neat latch]

https://x.com/Motorsport/status/1820364864117977185?t=WZTFTdPcY9nJA7ZI9XAyYA&s=19

Motorsport.com (@Motorsport) on X

Red Bull admits the RB20 "didn't deliever" what was expected from it, as it continues to face increasing pressure from McLaren and Mercedes in the 2024 #F1 title fight.

Full story ⬇️
https://t.co/9k4Mv2PrCg

Twitter · Aug 5, 2024, 7:42 AM

[narrow garnet]

idk why but my brain just reminded me of the 2023 Saudi Arabian GP national anthem, funniest shit

[ionic ferry]

F1 game career mode ahh transfers

[native breach]

Andretti

[sharp veldt]

who bor

oh nvm

[sharp veldt]

The only thing I disagree with is Williams because I don't think Vowles would take Antonelli. He quite literally said that despite taking Mercedes engines, he doesn't want to "be a Mercedes junior team" anymore (even though it kind of is.) I would probably see Williams promoting another Williams Driving Academy member instead - there's no point of having a WDA if you don't utilize it.

[arctic matrix]

Verstappen won't go to mercedes?

I don't think perez will leave redbull half a season after he was given a contract extension

[timber idol]

pastor maldonado to mercedes formula one team, here we go 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[arctic matrix]

merc: Rus, Ant
RedB: Ver, Per
Mclr: Nor, Pia
Ferr: Lec, Ham
Ast: Str, Alo
Rb: Law, Tsu
Wil: Alb, Sainz
Haas: Bea, Oco
Alp: Gas, Doo
Kick: Bot, Hu

[snow swan]

stroll is still in formula 1

ah

[winged dagger]

Checo staying? Doubt. I’d replace PER with RIC

Also doubt Kick wants to resign with BOT

I still remember Nando finishing 4th with an Aston crazy

[late tide]

if we are posting predictions again hold on

bold - confirmed

2025
Verstappen - Ricciardo
Russel - Antonelli
Hamilton - Leclerc
Norris - Piastri
Alonso - Stroll
Bearman - Ocon
Tsunoda - Lawson
Gasly - Mazepin ( ☹️ )
Albon - Sainz
Hulkenberg - Bottas

[arctic matrix]

There was an interview made why redbull want to stay with perez

He only just extended his contract couple months ago

[winged dagger]

NO GOATIFIIIII????

NOOOOO

[late tide]

;(

[arctic matrix]

And alonso is not retiring

After this season

[late tide]

if perez does better for the rest of this season it’s gonna be him but if he does just as badly there’s no excuses anymore

I strongly believe they should have removed him after spa but I can respect why red bull want to put faith in him

[arctic matrix]

People saying verstappen will go mercedes are clueless

[arctic matrix]

Spa was shocking from him

[winged dagger]

Isn’t Yuki confirmed

[late tide]

im sure verstappen would prefer being at merc at this exact moment in time but there’s so many more variables and facets than just “what team looks best”

verstappen will definitely be at red bull for at the very least 2025

[late tide]

probably is

[winged dagger]

i think merc prefers drivers from their own academy as max is expensive as hell

[late tide]

I wasn’t 100% sure

[late tide]

exactly yeah

[arctic matrix]

Ant is a great option

[late tide]

that’s one of many reasons

[arctic matrix]

For merc

[late tide]

I hope antonelli does well

[winged dagger]

I don’t trust Kimi that much

I think Doohan and Liam got more potential

[late tide]

honestly I hope all these new drivers do well and we don’t get any de vries’es

[winged dagger]

||Ollie||

[late tide]

doohan is the least likely to succeed out of him, lawson bearman and kimi

but they all have a decent chance at doing well

[winged dagger]

Ntm Gabriel Bortolento might join Kick

Would make the new rookies promising

[arctic matrix]

Drivers Championship prediction for 2025

1. Hamilton
2. Piastri
3. Leclerc
4. Norris
5. Verstappen
6. Russel
7. Perez
8. Antonelli
9. Sainz
10. Alonso
11. Albon
12. Gasly
13. Tsunoda
14. Stroll
15. Hulkenburg
16. Doohan
17. Bearman
18. Ocon
19. Bottas
20. Lawson

[winged dagger]

A Ferrari winning? Very bold

[arctic matrix]

Yes

Hamilton has shown he's still got it in mercedes

[winged dagger]

I think VER will still be podium at least

[wet sequoia]

If Ferrari repeat last year and get their shit together in Monza then yes there is a chance

[arctic matrix]

Also ferrari need is better strategys and a car

I mean we would of had a chance in 2022 if leclerc wasn't fucked up numerous times

[wet sequoia]

Because they’ve gotten better with their car since Vasseur took over

[winged dagger]

I doubt Kimi will be that high in his first szn. Maybe 11-12th since he isn’t even great in F2. Yuki higher than Albon/Gasly imo. Switch Alonso and Sainz, doubt a Williams can do well

[arctic matrix]

Redbull are gonna suffer a lot of problems next szn

Regarding verstappen

[wet sequoia]

Russell should be higher

Doubly so if Mercedes actually finally learned how to build a ground effect car

[winged dagger]

I’m thinking 5th

Unpopular top 5 for 2025:

1. PIA
2. HAM
3. VER
4. LEC
5. NOR

Lando fucks up a lot lately and his mentality isn’t very good as of late

I’d like to see Lewis surpassing Michael thoufh

[wet sequoia]

I think Verstappen will be 6th highest if they struggle to build a better car then this years

And this years has problems

[winged dagger]

Oh yeah true if VER 6 i’d put RUS 5 and push the others up by a rank

[neat latch]

The Ferrari hopium is crazy

[wet sequoia]

They have potential but the strategists will find a way to torpedo themselves into losing

[lyric rover]

Yeah Bearman will be a de Vries

[simple anchor]

I miss F1 so much. Bout to rewatch 2003 Monza

[arctic matrix]

If perez keeps up these performances the championship is going to mclaren

[regal needle]

2 Weeks Left until it's Race Week again

2 Weeks since Belgian Grand Prix and 2 Weeks Left until Dutch Grand Prix

[wanton cobalt]

Man this F1 race drought is serious

Aint got no races to watch for 2 weeks

[regal needle]

Maybe watch the Past F1 Races

[clear swan]

Id love to rewatch some old races but i dont have f1tv pro

[wanton cobalt]

^ same for me

[forest dock]

Paul Aron to Alpine you heard it here first 👀

[arctic matrix]

Hopefully

He doesn't have the money to stay in motor sport

So he needs an f1 team

[forest dock]

That's not true maybe not F2 because it's stupidly expensive but he can for sure do other series and get paid instead like GT racing.

But I don't think he had that big on Money issue in reality his dad owns a vet big company in Estonia.

[forest dock]

But I don't think he had that big on Money issue in reality his dad owns a vet big company in Estonia.

[cyan saffron]

I think you've said this already.

[sly badger]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-2024-f1-car-didnt-deliver-what-we-expected/10642142/

"Speaking exclusively with Motorsport.com, Red Bull tech director Wache says the team was expecting its 2024 car to be stronger in certain areas, especially in high-speed corners, based on its simulation data.

When asked if the RB20 was as good as hoped, he replied: "I would say not really. We improved compared to last year, without doubt, but we didn’t deliver what we expected in some areas.

"Especially in the high-speed corners we expected a little bit more than what we have. Without thinking about the competitiveness of the car, so just based on our own references, we expected a little bit more with our tools."

"In medium-speed and low-speed we improved quite a lot compared to last year. We were a little bit weaker in the high-speed corners compared to last year relative to the competition.

"In kerb riding we are clearly weak, but we were already last year. I think we didn’t make the improvement we expected in that aspect."

When asked why Red Bull's own predictions on where its car would perform well have been off for this season, Wache explained: "I think some aspects can be linked to the correlation.

"We are using quite an old wind tunnel and it can also be linked to the reduced capacity due to our position in the championship [with the ATR testing restrictions] and maybe also the fact that this is the third year with this type of regulations."

[twin veldt]

Definitely, that seat should be going to a diff driver

[pure aurora]

why fr

[twin veldt]

Yeah i get that, but antonelli has shown promise (especially considering how dominant he’s been over Bearman) so he deserves a seat in f1. Vowles would see this and wanna take him for himself

[pure aurora]

volves has literally singned sainz bro

[twin veldt]

There’s a clause in sainz contract

[pure aurora]

No he wouldnt, unless its for a multi-year contract

[pure aurora]

source/what is it?

[twin veldt]

Where if a red bull seat is available he can sign for red bull

[sharp veldt]

I thought that he has a clause that if he gets an offer from Red Bull or Mercedes he can abandon the contract.

[pure aurora]

I doubt it. Volvws has said he wants a long term driver, not just a driver looking for a short stint

[sharp veldt]

Yeah, that's what he's publically said. I can see him rejecting Antonelli on that basis - Mercedes gives him a year in Williams and brings him up

[twin veldt]

Maybe the only way of signing him was through that clause

[sharp veldt]

Honestly, with how Sainz was acting the entire time, that makes most sense

[twin veldt]

Definitely

To be fair that’s a genius move from sainz managers

[sharp veldt]

I had the feeling they were doing something good when it took them that long to sign a contract

[twin veldt]

This is a little theory i have

Sainz was gonna sign for another team at the Spanish Grand Prix, but a fallout happened, or something happened that led him not to sign because of that clause, then his managers turned to Williams and got it done

That’s a little theory I have

In a interview sainz said that “there will be a decision made soon” at the Spanish Grand Prix

[sly badger]

Well,Sainz would've signed with Audi if Audi didn't went through such a sudden change

[sharp veldt]

He was in talks with Alpine at the time.

[sharp veldt]

Yeah, I thought he would go to Audi.

[sharp veldt]

I'm not sure what caused the Alpine deal to fall through though. It seems Alpine is going with Doohan.

[twin veldt]

Yeah it would explain how long it took

[twin veldt]

Fair enough, a rookie is the way to go

[sharp veldt]

Probably he was all set to sign with Audi, then Audi had the whole overhaul, so he went between Williams and Alpine. Seeing how Alpine is doing as of right now (and they probably offered him a good deal), he went with Alpine and was going to be announced.

[twin veldt]

There could very well be maybe 5 rookies on the grid next year

[sharp veldt]

Probably Alpine refused to add a clause to allow him to leave if he received a better offer, so he decided to walk away

That or they decided to pursue Doohan and told Sainz to buzz off

[twin veldt]

That makes sense

No wonder why vowles was so happy to get him

[sharp veldt]

This is less likely, IMO, because Famin really was pursuing Sainz. Not as much as Vowles, of course.

[sharp veldt]

Yeah, how he did things must've really put TPs on edge.

[twin veldt]

I think sainz was always gonna go for alpine or Williams

[sharp veldt]

Vowles definitely really lucked out that Sainz ended up going to Williams.

They probably gave him everything he wanted out of desperation

[twin veldt]

Despite his connections, the sauber now and next year will be the worst car on the grid

[sharp veldt]

I think Carlos would've signed with Audi if the Sauber car wasn't shit and they were also entering next year.

[twin veldt]

100%

[sharp veldt]

The fact that Audi doesn't take over until 2026 is something to consider

He wants a top seat again. Spending a year in a shitbox that has 30+ second pitstops isn't going to be helping your case for a top team to take you again.

[twin veldt]

Do you think there’s time for Andretti to enter f1 in 2026?

Or hitech

[sharp veldt]

I would hope. Andretti has the motivation and is getting the resources to enter, but with how F1 is acting, it doesn't seem like they will have the approval.

[sharp veldt]

If Hitech came in then Aron should come up to F1, no?

[twin veldt]

When was haas announced to enter f1?

[stiff bough]

It was relying heavily on an engine deal Alpine would never be able to get until 2026 lol. By then there is probably a top seat open that Sainz would ideally not want to miss out on

What

no

[sharp veldt]

Wait

[stiff bough]

2014

[sharp veldt]

I forget when Haas joined F1

[sharp veldt]

mb

[stiff bough]

They joined in 2016

[twin veldt]

wat

[sharp veldt]

sorry, i was being dumb. i was thinking abt a driver for haas

[sharp veldt]

they were to start in '15 right?

but delayed it

[twin veldt]

So there’s time, but It have to be quick

[stiff bough]

I don’t remember

Andretti’s application wouldn’t be considered again by FOM until 2027-28

[sharp veldt]

wait andretti roster opinions, go

[twin veldt]

I think with any newcomer team I’d want a rookie and a experienced driver

[sharp veldt]

yeah

[sly badger]

https://www.fxxinstagram.com/p/C-TEGADOJl5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[sharp veldt]

i mean haas has ocon and bearman. definitely a pairing

[sharp veldt]

I mean..........

[twin veldt]

Yeah but bearmans a shitter

[stiff bough]

ah yes, sainz and … albon. I’m sure Haas and Alpine are shivering in their boots right now at the thought

[sharp veldt]

the only thing i'd be scared abt with sainz is if he decides to cut the grass again and takes my seat

💀

[sharp veldt]

james maybe fix your car first....

sainz in a williams ain't scaring me unless i'm zhou and i'm starting p20 anyways and we're in a fight for p19

[sly badger]

Guys,don't make laugh hard

[sharp veldt]

at least albon is dragging that shit into points sometimes 😭

[sharp veldt]

alpine shivering in their boots bc gasly gonna dnf the next five races

😭

[sly badger]

🤣

[twin veldt]

Bearmans fucking coming 15th in the standings, his teammates miles ahead of him in a championship where they don’t score as much points as f1. It’s a worry for Bearman, that seat should be going to someone else

[sharp veldt]

Yeah, Bearman this year in F2 is something else.

He did okay on his debut in F1. Sure, he came in P7 and nearly caused Lewis to miss out Q3, but we have to consider he WAS driving a Ferrari. Ferrari was probably 2nd or 3rd fastest that weekend.

[twin veldt]

“hE dId oNe gOoD f1 rAcE” so did devries, then look what happened to him

we need to look at who’s doing best at f2

[sharp veldt]

I'm not saying Bearman is going to become the next Schumacher, but I don't know if he'll be helpful for Haas.

[sharp veldt]

Ocon, at least, can get into points when he needs to be and has experience.

[twin veldt]

Hadjar, Bortoletto, Aron, Antonelli and Maloney are far better than Bearman

[sharp veldt]

Lowkey Bearman better have been dropping really good numbers in the sim... He's a rookie and getting a multi-year contract.

[twin veldt]

They should be considered, but some of them won’t be

[sharp veldt]

With respect to Hadjar, I think they were waiting for Ricciardo to dunk on Tsunoda, so Ricciardo goes to RBR and Lawson or Hadjar into RB.

[twin veldt]

It’s more likely tsunoda leaves the red bull family

[sharp veldt]

But Ricciardo hasn't dunked on Tsunoda like they expected. Checo is underperforming, but it doesn't seem like RBR want to slot Lawson or Hadjar into RBR.

[twin veldt]

I really hope there’s a clause in tsunodas contract

[sharp veldt]

They're definitely biting their time and praying he leaves once Honda joins Aston in '26. He did sign a ONE YEAR with VCARB, which says something considering everyone else is multi-year.

[twin veldt]

Apparently tsunoda and red bull aren’t on greatest terms

Shit move from tsunoda to sign a contract, he should’ve waited

Because Stroll or Alonso could be leaving

[sharp veldt]

I wouldn't be surprised. Yuki IS performing better and should at least be running a simulation in an RBR car to see how he's doing. I'm not saying Yuki NEEDS to replace Checo - he has matured as a driver and had a great start to the season, but I don't understand why Ricciardo is getting all these tests when Yuki hasn't gotten one this year.

[sharp veldt]

Alonso retiring is more practical (and realistic) than Stroll leaving Aston.

Alonso said his contract extension with AM is "most likely" going to be his final contract in Formula 1.

[sharp veldt]

Lawson being tested makes sense though. He is RBR's reserve driver.

[twin veldt]

Well red bull know that anyone who’s driving style isn’t similar to max will just fade out. Ricciardos driving style is very similar to max’s. hence he will do better in a red bull than tsunoda

[twin veldt]

Alonso’s gonna retire at the end of the season

[sharp veldt]

No, I get that logic. I'm just surprised RBR haven't at least seen if Yuki is horrible in that Red Bull. He probably isn't going to be close to Max, but for what it's worth, he might better at it than Lawson.

[sharp veldt]

With how Aston is going, they're driving him to that point...

[twin veldt]

I mean dudes 43, just live ya life

[sharp veldt]

Or at least they would have data to justify keeping Yuki at VCARB

[twin veldt]

He would be older than some peoples parents here

[sharp veldt]

Stroll leaving Aston is less likely and not only because his father runs the team. Stroll's also just doing a bit better this season.

[twin veldt]

Stroll to wec?

[sharp veldt]

I see Max to WEC before Stroll to WEC tbh

[twin veldt]

It’s a shame for yuki because there might be no chance of getting out of that contract

[sharp veldt]

Yeah.

I have the feeling he has a clause though

Lawson should have a clause as well, I think

[twin veldt]

I looked into it, Tsunodas contract is very weak

So maybe??

Max to Mercedes will entirely come down to where red bull finish at the end of the year

[pure aurora]

def p2 in WCC, p3 if checo keeps fumbling hard

[sly badger]

https://www.f1oversteer.com/news/how-jack-doohan-and-mick-schumacher-compared-in-latest-alpine-test-as-both-drivers-aim-for-2025-f1-seat/

[twin veldt]

Doohan was quicker

[sly badger]

In one lap

[twin veldt]

Still

[pure aurora]

mick faster long run

which is expected, hes actually driven an f1 car

[twin veldt]

real

Flavio Briatore decides but in the end, Alpine also decides. There was this test and there was a bit of communication to say Jack Doohan was supposedly faster. My information is a bit different,”

It should’ve been Doohan and Aron

[sly badger]

You know,i'd like to see Mick in Alpine next year

It'd be a big coincidence

[twin veldt]

Micks gone, he should’ve been long gone

[pure aurora]

mick drives for WEC now anyway

[twin veldt]

Because he’s got the Schumacher name he’s in consideration

[sly badger]

Driving for Team Enstone with Flavio Briatore and using a engine which isn't technically from the brand's country

[craggy zenith]

That and he spends his time racing in an endurance championship

Doohan has proven his worth in setups and one lap pace

Race pace is something that has to be learnt in F1, Piastri has shown this

While Mick got given a shit deal with Haas, he failed to kick a struggling Sargeant out of Williams

That means whatever Vowles was shown by Toto, he wasn't impressed by it

[twin veldt]

It’d be stupid to sign Schumacher

Doohan or Aron

[craggy zenith]

Why would Aron be in the conversation?

Yes Oakes is their team principle now

You also have the Renault group on one side and Briatore on the other

Both have Renault's interests in mind

And both saw how badly the Alpine Academy got burned when Piastri ditched them

If they deny Doohan after all the good press they've been giving him and hinting at him getting the seat, they might as well shut down the Academy all together

[cyan saffron]

It's actually sad no one talks about Martins.

He's much better than Doohan.

He's just unlucky as hell and ART is even worse than PREMA this year.

[remote knoll]

I feel like Doohan never got a proper chance in F2

[cyan saffron]

Well, he did too much mistakes.

[remote knoll]

I don't recall

[cyan saffron]

He caused like 3 times a big pile-up at a SC restart.

[craggy zenith]

He's worse than Hauger

They both won F3 and then completely flopped in F2

[remote knoll]

Martins?

No way

[craggy zenith]

Doohan came second to Hauger in F3, then came 6th and 3rd in F2

He's beaten both of them easily with a hand tied behind his back when he had a cracked chassis at the start of 2023

[remote knoll]

Martins wasn't bad in 2023

[cyan saffron]

Martins > Doohan > Hauger

Martins was decent last season.

Had a better rookie season than Ollie.

[remote knoll]

and took him out 😡

[craggy zenith]

And yet Martins isn't the one being talking about for a seat

Because he didn't perform

[cyan saffron]

Because ART doesn't perform.

And he gets mecachromed million times.

[craggy zenith]

The guy who is supposedly worse than Martins nearly beat Martins' teammate to the title in F2

[cyan saffron]

In his 2nd season whilst Martins was in his 1st.

[craggy zenith]

Martins' teammate who won the same number of races that year as Martins himself did

I'm sorry Martins was at a better team and is supposed to be better than Doohan

It's not like we've never seen rookies win the title

And yet Doohan outscored both Pourchaire and Vesti post Barcelona

Highlighting it was indeed the car and Virtuosi blamed themselves not Doohan for his poor results at the start of the year

Martins' doesn't have that excuse because his teammate went on to win the title, in a team that has won titles before in a series where rookies have won before

If he is better, he should've been winning races and not throwing away results making stupid mistakes

As bad as Mecachrome is, it's laughable to say it's always been their fault

[fleet aspen]

Predictions for Max Land

P1 - Maxipies 🥹🫶🦁
P2 - Oscar Piastri 🥹🫶🇦🇺
P3 - Lewis Hamilton 🥹🫶🇬🇧
P4 - Focused George 🥹🫶🇬🇧
P5 - Uncle Checo 🥹🫶🇲🇽
P6 - Smooth Operator 🥹🫶🇪🇸
P7 - Fernando is faster than you 🥹🫶🇪🇸
P8 - Charles Leclerc 🥹🫶🇲🇨
P9 - Nico Hulkenberg 🥹🫶🇩🇪
P10 - The Honey badger 🥹🫶🦡

• Weather will be dry

• Adrian Newey will not announce his decision where he is going too

• Mercedes and Vcarb will not announce second drivers

• Kick Sauber announce Zhou second seat 2025

[pure aurora]

checo p5? nah bro checo p8

[fleet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/checo-checo-perez-f1-formula1-what-gif-20253402

[snow swan]

Red Bull coming out with a pink livery for shits for Checo to unlock the power of the inner pink Mercedes.

[pure aurora]

all for that just for checo to qualify p1 and finish p10

[cyan saffron]

[snow swan]

In Checo fashion

Alpine Pink Camo livery when though? They teased it like months ago. I wanna see the invisible car 💀

[cyan saffron]

Either he returns to his Racing Point form, or he turns back into the mad man at Force India slamming into his teammate and other cars just for the sake of it.

[pure aurora]

just retire dawg fr

[snow swan]

I think I'll help this team this week. Ah Red Bull...shame you won't finish the race with both drivers

😭

[cyan saffron]

for real

Where is the pink camo for fuck sake?

[snow swan]

We missed it

Unseen ofc

[cyan saffron]

They teasered it literally pre-season.

It was expected to be their livery.

[snow swan]

🙁

[cyan saffron]

And now, we even had a deadpool Alpine before the pink camo.

[snow swan]

It actually looks nice NGL. Clean AF.

[cyan saffron]

yeah

It's lovely.

I also like the livery how it ended up to be, maybe the blue one not as much as the pink one.

But this one would've been even better.

[snow swan]

@cyan saffron when someone in Gran Turismo drops the camo before Alpine does 😭

Not quite the same though. 🤔

[cyan saffron]

yeah

It's more like the pink and blue parts from the current livery in pink camo.

Whilst the teaser is full pink camo.

[snow swan]

When Alpine. W h e n.

[cyan saffron]

no white under the halo, no carbon fiber, fully pink camo

[coarse obsidian]

Sad actually. And half of it is black.

[wary forge]

Alpine when yellow and blue again??

https://tenor.com/view/renault-car-sports-car-gif-11061105

Imagine this livery today

[snow swan]

I can only throttle so much 💀

Sexy af livery

My favorite part is no halo.

[wary forge]

Yeah me too

😦

[snow swan]

I appreciate the halos purpose

But it just doesn't look clean imo

But safety still >>>

[wary forge]

Have you seen those edits of modern f1 cars without halos?

Look nice as fuck

[snow swan]

Oh my. I haven't!

[wooden kettle]

honestly the cars look weird and chunky without the halos to me now

[snow swan]

Clean AF.

[snow swan]

See I love cockpit pov in F1 23

But I wish you could have no halos.

Thanks

I mean I play with a racing line so I guess it's not that bad for car positioning but...

[unkempt wasp]

I wish F123 was on sale, but EA know that 2024 is worse and want more people to play that one instead

[snow swan]

I'm glad I got it for $35.

Wouldn't have payed a dollar more for it

[winged dagger]

I want him to leave RB bro. He’s currently slower than both VCarb which is more F1.25 engine

[arctic matrix]

He's staying next season it's confirmed

[winged dagger]

Yep Red Bull can forget about the constructors championship and Max can forget about his 5th

[wooden kettle]

is it confirmed he’s staying next season???

i thought it was just this season

(yes i know he’s on a multiyear contract but still)

[winged dagger]

hopefully not even the two VCarbs are outperforming him

[twin veldt]

theres so much contract clauses with most drivers rn

i wouldnt be shocked if people like tsunoda, sainz and maybe verstappen arent driving for there contracted teams

[twin veldt]

he arguably shouldve won the title

[remote knoll]

i wish

I really wanted him to

Thought he could before the 2023 season started

[twin veldt]

well his car was a shithole until the second half of the season where he outscored everyone

[remote knoll]

yea it's a shame

racing is cruel

[twin veldt]

doohans gotta get that alpine seat

[winged dagger]

and some ppl actually say he has less potential than fucking ollie bearman

😭

[remote knoll]

man ollie has been pissing me off with his F2 results

[lyric rover]

THE FUTURE OF FORMULA ONE 🔥

[lyric rover]

He's washed

[remote knoll]

TRUEEE

NOT TRUEE

[lyric rover]

He's gonna flop in that Haas

[remote knoll]

you're gonna flop in the haas

[lyric rover]

Everyone's saying Ocon will destroy his confidence, but at this rate Ocon will be too far ahead for any friction to happen.

Predictions for 2025
HEADLINE TEAMS
Ferrari
Mercedes
Red Bull Racing
McLaren
MIDFIELDERS
Aston Martin Aramco
RB
Esteban Ocon
Alpine
DOING WHATEVER THE HELL THEY WANT
Nico Hulkenberg
BACKMARKERS
Williams
Hulkenberg's Teammate
Oliver Bearman

[remote knoll]

Ollie wont flop ollie wont flop ollie wont flop

[lyric rover]

Denial and delusion never helps

[remote knoll]

it's neither of those

[lyric rover]

Right now its looking like you are

[twin veldt]

15th? Seriously? Come on ollie

[lyric rover]

Like I've been called a Jack Doohan glazer in the past, but I actually have evidence to back myself up

Many here don't have evidence

💀 @twin veldt

[winged dagger]

If Newey joins Aston they might be a headline team

They have the money

[lyric rover]

I'm not a glazer of Jack. I avoid glazing anyone in general

[twin veldt]

Neweys gonne retire hes fucking old

and fair enough

[lyric rover]

I really hope he joins Ferrari

[remote knoll]

where is the evidence that Ollie will flop in F1

[winged dagger]

I think he rejected Ferrari

And is looking for a British team

So Williams or Aston

[lyric rover]

Exhibit A:

[remote knoll]

wikipedia

[winged dagger]

I don’t think Williams has the money for his design though

So It’s most likely Aston Martin

Or McLaren