monaco-gp

[sharp veldt]

i wouldn't be mad at lando if he didn't let oscar pass, considering lando did have better pace and it would've helped in the WDC. letting oscar through though makes up for them messing up the strategy and tries to keep the "papaya family" image intact.

[mellow lantern]

yeah I was a bit upset when Norris let piastri past

[sharp veldt]

considering zak brown's primary pr strat is the papaya family, even though based on how arrow mclaren indycar functions, this doesn't make sense.

[wooden kettle]

the way strategy was handled kind of sours the victory. i wouldnt be happy if i won the way he did either. mclaren couldve pitted him first and this whole thing wouldve been fine

[sharp veldt]

i would've defend norris either way. he's not the bad guy

[dawn moon]

AMR isn’t top rn

[mellow lantern]

yeah

[sharp veldt]

norris would've won it on pure pace

like they said they would swap if oscar could catch up. oscar did not - he only caught up when lando slowed to give the position back

[wooden kettle]

i just wish it didnt go down the way it did honestly.

[sharp veldt]

the argument can go either way. i'm just sad oscar's first win is always going to be associated with mclaren being incompetent

[grave mango]

Is it too early to call this the Lewis comeback season

[mellow lantern]

yes

wait for next year

[sharp veldt]

imo yes

[mellow lantern]

unless Ferrari makes a car equivalent to 2020

[grave mango]

I just know Lewis is crying passing the Ferraris knowing he gonna have to drive those next year

[sharp veldt]

alonso was mad about pit stops. he mentioned on the radio he was not happy/confused by why they chose to pit when they did, though earlier in the weekend he was also sarcastically like "good luck" when he was asked abt the car's balance

[sharp veldt]

insert the lollipopmancomics silverstone podium reel where lewis is crying bc of ferrari strats

[grave mango]

Lewis is trying to cancel that contract now😭

[sharp veldt]

George: Why are you crying?

Lewis: I'm crying because I'll be sitting next to him [scene pans out to a despondent Leclerc crying in the corner] next year... He was running with freaking inters on the track today.

[grave mango]

Ferrari made leclerc suicidal

Pictures of him when he began and now we’re very telling

[sharp veldt]

i've said it before but at some point i question leclerc's loyalty to ferrari

i understand ferrari was his dream and i commend his loyalty to the team

but there's honestly a point where i don't know if ferrari is working out for him, esp. with his ambitions of being a world championship and also for his mental health

[grave mango]

Welp he’s stuck with them till 29

[sharp veldt]

he's a driver who can compete and honestly should have a title by now, but he's never going to get a title if ferrari keeps clowning

[sharp veldt]

unless he decides to leave, which he won't

[grave mango]

Mf has already signed a contract for 25-29

[lucid parrot]

mclaren is the only team to mess up a 1 2 finish somehow

[proven leaf]

Angry at McLaren for tainting oscars win and for the severely uncomfortable last stint to watch .. that was a shitshow

[mellow lantern]

I mean they got one today..

[radiant terrace]

yep

[lucid parrot]

ik im saying they found a way to mess it up

[mellow lantern]

oh alr

[radiant terrace]

definetly. they fucked up both of them

[radiant terrace]

it's funny how a team can have a result that looking only at the numbers looks excellent but was actually handled really badly

[proven leaf]

Completely unnecessary

Starting with the second undercut when Hamilton was 10 seconds away .. unnecessary .

[tranquil dragon]

is max mad at lewis

[proven leaf]

And the whole race was just completely uncomfortable

[proven leaf]

Why would he be ? It's just a racing incident

[tranquil dragon]

he kept saying the racing incident was lewis's fault

[radiant terrace]

beyond unessesary honestly

[tranquil dragon]

i didnt watch it but it sounded like it was a huge shit show

[radiant terrace]

that move to "cover hamilton" only created more issues

[raven wagon]

I mean pretty sure they were alr talking right after the race

[radiant terrace]

you should go watch it, it's definetly worth ur time

honestly i just wish mclaren had just done the traditional move of pitting piastri first to avoid all this drama

but doesnt everyone wish this happened

[proven leaf]

Both on fault but more on max

[proven leaf]

Yeah ..

[tranquil dragon]

its okay the nascar race was a huge shit show too

so was indycar

everythings a huge shit show rn

[proven leaf]

Imagine .. lando loses the wdc by 6 points

[radiant terrace]

that would be the saddest thing ever lmao

[proven leaf]

Bro was 13 seconds off in the end

[tranquil dragon]

i mean that would mean that we would have had a new championship elader at some point in the season

[sharp veldt]

lewis called it a racing incident, but max was at fault

[sharp veldt]

lowkey that would be so depressing

[proven leaf]

Hypothetically

[radiant terrace]

hamitlon posed no threat to mclaren after the first stint. mclarens strategy is just shit

[proven leaf]

Tbh max has to take a grid penalty and I suppose hed do it at spa next week

[sacred compass]

Have to say it was entirely max‘s fault, carried way too much speed and I may be wrong (please excuse me if I am it’s like 3am for me and I simply can’t sleep) dive bombed from too far back

[proven leaf]

Lando could maybe COULD capitalise and score big

A big maybe definitely

[sacred compass]

Max was hella cranky that whole race and was way too hot headed for his own good

[sharp veldt]

that is so true'

[proven leaf]

Too opportunistic of a move and he knew it wouldn't work

[sharp veldt]

yes, but that's not an excuse for him to act like a child on the radio

[sacred compass]

Yeah then he goes and acts like a child tryna say Lewis was at fault

[sharp veldt]

i would call it a dive bomb yea

[proven leaf]

Gp has to tie him down lmao

[sacred compass]

Icl, Red Bull is a big reason I fell in love with this sport, with Sebastian Vettel, Danny Ric, MV33, etc. but recently they’ve just gone down hill

[proven leaf]

Or in simple terms , a door that was closed, he tried to open

[sacred compass]

Marko shouldn’t be allowed in front of a camera sometimes nor should Horner though they both have matured recently

Where as Max has done the opposite

Today at Hungary we saw Rookie Max instead of 3x WDC Max

[proven leaf]

Where was zak this race ?

[tranquil dragon]

even if hamilton had passed the mclaren he provides NO championship threat

[tranquil dragon]

toronto

[sacred compass]

Wonder what he has to say about how bad McLaren pit wall was today

And how immature Lando was, too

[radiant terrace]

yea but even then mclaren had the stronger car and could regain the position

[radiant terrace]

honestly imo im not sure lando shouldve given the place back

[sacred compass]

Like don’t get me wrong he was wrongfully denied the win by the team but he was just straight up rude to Lewis in the cool down room

[radiant terrace]

oh thats what u mean

[sacred compass]

He shouldn’t have, he was 5, almost 6 seconds ahead and still gaining until he slowed down for Oscar

On equal tyres in equal cars

[tranquil dragon]

i think hes more mad at indycar, his driver was injured really badly

[proven leaf]

A wins a wins a win. McLaren is at fault

[sacred compass]

Ah I haven’t seen

[noble adder]

i still believe max moving to mercedes is possible

[radiant terrace]

umm actually..... piastri had slightly better tires

[lyric fjord]

i dont believe they were happy after winning

[tranquil dragon]

kick sauber will win the WCC this year

[sacred compass]

That proves my point more loll

[radiant terrace]

yes i agree. mclaren is at fault

[proven leaf]

Wdc

Destructors

[sacred compass]

I love that Oscar is now a race winner but it’d have been better if he won it on pace on not team orders

[radiant terrace]

i dont blame either driver for what happened today, only the team

[sacred compass]

Sure McLaren messed up the strategy but that happens

Doesn’t mean a driver should relinquish a win because the strategists messed up

[radiant terrace]

well he had a chance at winning it on pace until mclarens strategy fucked him up

[sacred compass]

Especially considering Lando is the closest to Max in the WDC rn

[proven leaf]

He would've . If not for that shit pitstop decisions

[sacred compass]

Yeah but at the same time, after the pit stop Lando had pulled away and was gaining and gaining every lap

[radiant terrace]

whether lando had ceded the position or not i wouldnt have been satisfied. mclaren should have just had decent strategy in the first place

[sacred compass]

Even if it was reversed and Oscar had the gap from the under cut, I reckon Lando would have caught him

[noble adder]

redbull’s literally deteriorating bro

[sacred compass]

But that’s just if buts and maybes

[radiant terrace]

if they made the right pit call and lando then beat piastri i dont think anyone would be conplaining

[sacred compass]

The whole grid is

[tranquil dragon]

to think leclerc could have could have passed maxine by canada

[sacred compass]

Idk what happened today but this whole weekend was a mess from most of the teams

[tranquil dragon]

literally

cant wait till SPA!!!!

SPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[broken silo]

I can already see the dramatic editing Netflix is gonna make for today

[trail lake]

Orange is the new red

[sacred compass]

Red Bull and max arguing,
Aston Martin lying to their drivers
McLaren team orders/strategy mess up
Williams only giving updates to one driver

[noble adder]

car isn’t competitive anymore and development going backwards. perez is gone. CH fighting jos. i think its time for max to leave

[sacred compass]

Max built that team

Red Bull is what it is today because of Max

[noble adder]

and now its time to leave them

[sacred compass]

I don’t think so

[noble adder]

because they aren’t catering to his needs

[sacred compass]

I reckon today was heavily down to sleep deprivation

[trail lake]

I think we can all agree we wanted to see a more competitive grid but not like this

[sacred compass]

Yeah

Teams really need to be more professional

[radiant terrace]

one driver getting updates happens all the time

[tranquil dragon]

aston??

[noble adder]

no it clearly isn’t. did u see their strategy and pace?

i think its better for max to consider mercedes. theres definitely potential with the new engine too

[sacred compass]

Bro one race does not mean he needs to leave the team 💀

[broken silo]

I wonder if Jos and Max are on good terms right now

[noble adder]

u dont understand mate lol

[sacred compass]

Other than recently they’ve have been nothing but fast and consistent

Red Bull has done nothing but cater to max

[noble adder]

the entire fucking redbull team is deteriorating

[hidden pond]

Peres ain’t pulling his weight

[sacred compass]

Don’t get me wrong

[noble adder]

not the the car itself. the team

[sacred compass]

They ain’t what they used to be

But I really wouldn’t say that

[proven leaf]

He did well yesterday

P16 to p7

Not horrible

Points finish as well

[sacred compass]

Realistically shouldn’t have had to go from P16 anyway

[noble adder]

idk imo a move to mercedes would be reasonable before the new regs

[proven leaf]

With mcl reducing the gap it was important

[proven leaf]

True that

Fucked up qualifying

[broken silo]

well all positions have to be occupied for the race to start

[sacred compass]

The fact he’s P7 in the standings rn too

Which on paper doesn’t look too bad

Then you remember had the fastest car at the start of the season and is now in what’s maybe the 2nd fastest

[noble adder]

perez is costing the team heavily

[sacred compass]

Im convinced he was only hired because the team knew he couldn’t compete with Max but would compete enough to win the WCC

But now he can’t even help them win the constructors

[noble adder]

the repairs costs gotta be higher than his sponsorship money lmfao

[proven leaf]

Nah

It's a net profit

[noble adder]

joke

[sacred compass]

I mean doesn’t matter really

[noble adder]

either way hes fucking up the team big time

[sacred compass]

Repairs costs are much more costly now

They fall under the cost cap

[noble adder]

bro dissapoints the entirety of mexico every weekend

more suffering to be a checo fan than a ferrari

[sacred compass]

So the sponsors could be bringing in 1 billion (exaggeration) but if he’s crashing the car every weekend that 1 billion won’t matter

Championship wise

[noble adder]

just feel sorry for max

dealing with a copy of mahaveer ragunathan

[sacred compass]

Yeah he’s basically gotta win 2 championships in 1 year

[sacred compass]

I wouldn’t go that far 💀

At least Perez made it to F1

[noble adder]

u remember mahaveer got a test with alfa one year

[sacred compass]

And at least Perez knows he can turn the steering wheel while reversing 💀💀

[proven leaf]

And with McLaren I think ?

[noble adder]

was actually laughing my ass off when i heard about it😭😭

bro racked up more penalty points than actual points

[sacred compass]

💰💰💰💰💰

[noble adder]

i cant remember

[sacred compass]

Only reason he got those test drives

Money

[noble adder]

his career was weird too

some championship with like these old f1 cars

then he randomly got a call into f2

[proven leaf]

I can proudly say McLaren is now a proud contender of wcc

[broken silo]

F1 is all about money, the sports itself is expensive to begin with

[broken silo]

FINALLY

[sacred compass]

McLaren is what got me into F1 in the first place, am very happy

[proven leaf]

Also a few more gps later I'm going to get flamed for being a McLaren fan

[proven leaf]

Same here

[sacred compass]

McLaren got me into F1
Red Bull made me fall in love with their stunts and stuff like that

It’s funny I support Red Bull but was mad when Lewis lost in 2021 💀

[noble adder]

lewis got me into f1

[broken silo]

Lewis was goated from the start

[noble adder]

max deserved that championship but that race was fucked

[sacred compass]

Always happens, I supported Red Bull when they were not dominating but now look what’s said about Red Bull fans „jumping on the winning team bandwagon“ „DTS fans“ same stuff said about Mercedes fans 💀

[sacred compass]

They both did at the end of the day hence why they went into it on equal points but yeah

[noble adder]

great season honestly

but set the standard too high for new fans

[sacred compass]

But oh well can’t change the past it was a good season for what it’s worth

Just hope that Lewis can eventually win his 8th

[noble adder]

one day

[sacred compass]

Hopefully but every year it’s more and more doubtful as he ages

[noble adder]

even if he doesn’t get it i really hope he attempts the triple crown

[noble adder]

he’s still driving like a beast in all fairness

[snow swan]

Not with the talent on the grid right now

[sacred compass]

I mean he’s got Monaco already, multiple times 💀

[sacred compass]

True

[sacred compass]

Most of which he has already dominated in the past

But who knows

[proper sandal]

wow i just watched the highlights

what a race

[sacred compass]

If he gets the car, maybe

[sacred compass]

That’s one way to put it

[noble adder]

was a mess of a race

[snow swan]

Most of the top drivers were just coming of age. They are now entering their prime while lewis is... not

[noble adder]

so many things going on

[proper sandal]

why did they tell lando to let oscar past

[sacred compass]

Maybe so yet he’s still competing with and beating a lot of them

[noble adder]

poor oscar u gotta feel sorry for him

excitement taken away by his team’s mismanagement

[sacred compass]

They messed up Oscar and Landos pit sequence and Lando got the undercut but they wanted Oscar to win

[snow swan]

Not really. He had a couple of.good races. He is only going to get slower while the drivers around him get faster

[noble adder]

no doubt max will go for a triple crown attempt in the future

[sacred compass]

His results speak for me 🤷‍♂️

[noble adder]

people seem to forget 2023 a lot

great season from lewis

[snow swan]

His results speak foe me too haha he isn't beating them regularly in the last few years

[sacred compass]

He’s still competed even with that horrible 0 side pod car, still got results

[snow swan]

I love how people always talk down the car to boost a driver's talent.

[sacred compass]

2022 he came 6th
2023 he came 3rd
2024 he’s currently 6th again

[sacred compass]

You talk as if the car isn’t one of the biggest parts in a drivers results 💀

The 2022 Mercedes was a terrible car, everyone knows that

[snow swan]

I'm sorry but 6th means the top 5 is beating him

[sacred compass]

Yet he still got results out of it

[snow swan]

The results of getting beat by the top 5

[sacred compass]

In 2022, with the W13 💀

[sacred compass]

Oh he got beat by 5 out of 20 drivers in a terribly unstable car

Must mean he’s done for

Terrible results

[snow swan]

It's a mercedes. He wasn't driving a williams.

[sacred compass]

You also speak like he hasn’t earned the most points out of any driver in the last few races 💀

He’s level headed, consistent and fast. Give him the car and he could win another

[snow swan]

Last few races doesn't erase what has happened in the last few years.

[sacred compass]

I fully believe if he was Landos team mate or even Max‘s he’d be competing for the championship rn

[sacred compass]

Last few years?

2020 he was 1st
2021 he was 2nd
2022 he was 6th (which I mostly because Mercedes bottled the regulations)
2023 he was 3rd (Mercedes fixed what they bottled)
2024 half way through the season he’s 6th

[snow swan]

He is starting to struggle to beat Russell now.

[sacred compass]

He’s still getting results

[sacred compass]

They 8:6 to George Russel that’s not much

And Hamiltons also ahead so idk how he’s struggling

[snow swan]

2 of those are a DNF and now this one where they didn't put enough gas causing him to qualify in the top 15

[crisp mason]

he has potential if ferrari produce the car

[sacred compass]

Tryna deny that Lewis has pace is insane 💀💀

[crisp mason]

real

[snow swan]

If ferrari produces a good car then leclerc will just out perform him.

[sacred compass]

He’s beating his team mate which is the biggest proof of pace in F1

[crisp mason]

no he wont 💀

[sacred compass]

You mean like he is right now? 😭😭😭

[crisp mason]

leclerc will not be faster

[sacred compass]

Cuz he ain’t

In a faster car 💀💀

[crisp mason]

yea hes def faster than hamilton guys

in the faster car

[snow swan]

Yeah, leclerc is the better driver. If ferrari has a good car then leclerc will outperform lewis

[crisp mason]

sorry but charles won at monaco, the track where pole will win if they dont crash or have a bad stop

[sacred compass]

This guys just a Hamilton hater

[crisp mason]

hes not better

[crisp mason]

100%

[magic thicket]

So what happened besides my king piastri won

[sacred compass]

A lot

Red Bull and Max arguing

[magic thicket]

Of course

Not surprised

[sacred compass]

Apparently Aston lied to Fernando to get him to let Lance past

[snow swan]

Max felt nostalgic for 2021

[sacred compass]

Williams ignoring one of their drivers

[crisp mason]

max pulled another austria

but on first or 2nd lap

this time tho he gave position back

[snow swan]

What did they do to Logan?

[sacred compass]

Max tried an insane dive bomb and failed and then tried to blame Lewis

[magic thicket]

Sargent what happened

[snow swan]

No, he just isn't a good as people say he is.

[sacred compass]

7 WDC

[crisp mason]

me thinks checo needa get swapped out at mid season

[sacred compass]

200 career podiums

108 wins

[crisp mason]

ok so he has won in a mid field car?

[magic thicket]

If there was a way to get rid of number one I would have

[snow swan]

He finished only 2 positions behind max this race

[sacred compass]

Has the record for the Most [insert whatever] here

[sacred compass]

There’s no way you can flame Hamilton

Then defend Checo

[crisp mason]

hamilton is a clear goat of f1

[sacred compass]

This I won’t agree with

[magic thicket]

Uhh

[sacred compass]

No such thing as a GOAT

[crisp mason]

why not...

hes one of the greatest of all time...

[sacred compass]

Too many variables to consider for each era

He’s the greatest of his era

[magic thicket]

Exactly

[crisp mason]

hes the greatest of the 2000s-20s

[sacred compass]

But greatest of all time simply doesn’t exist imo

[crisp mason]

well

[sacred compass]

You forget Schumi also raced in the 2000s lmfao

[magic thicket]

Well then guess my favourite driver

[crisp mason]

yea but i honestly feel that lewis was better in the 2000s as he was a new driver and getting wins

early 2000s schumi was better

but after lewis debut season it was clear he was gonna be a force to be reckoned with

[sacred compass]

Like what I mean is if you put Senna in a W11, the fasted F1 car ever, he may not perform like he did in the MP4 because it’s entirely different to what he raced in his era and required a completely different driving style

[crisp mason]

ofcourse

[sacred compass]

And not only that

[lost moat]

i just finished watching the gp. why did mclaren tell norris to let piastri by?

[crisp mason]

schumi showed tho that with regulation changes you can easily adapt

at their level*

[sacred compass]

Maybe, for example, Senna only won because the competition in his generation wasn’t as much as this generation or whatever

[magic thicket]

Quit complaining my fav driver is the best imo

[crisp mason]

complaining???

[sacred compass]

There’s wayyyyy too many variables in every era to say there is a GOAT

[crisp mason]

what???

[snow swan]

Kubica?

[crisp mason]

i get that

[magic thicket]

No

[sacred compass]

Schumi?

[crisp mason]

prost fr

[lost moat]

goatifi fs

[magic thicket]

Well He’s My GOAT not my fav

[magic thicket]

Sir crash a lot not him

[crisp mason]

only driver with an assist wdc fr

[sacred compass]

Mahaveer?

[crisp mason]

mazespin?

[magic thicket]

No

[snow swan]

You mean albon?

[crisp mason]

huh???

what??

[sacred compass]

Probably talking about 2020

Albon did crash a lot in that Red Bull

Like a lot a lot

[crisp mason]

latifi.

[noble adder]

anyone watch formula e today? what a final

[crisp mason]

ew

[magic thicket]

My king won

[crisp mason]

i do not like formula e

[snow swan]

He has a few this year too

[sacred compass]

Haven’t watched FE I need to

[crisp mason]

oh wait

[noble adder]

the goat🐐

[crisp mason]

its oscar piastri

hes your favourite

[noble adder]

im assuming u follow a bandwagon

[magic thicket]

No

[molten fulcrum]

formula E

[magic thicket]

He’s my king not my fav

[crisp mason]

no i just dont like electric

[sacred compass]

I love Oscar’s sarcasm ngl

He’s like Kimi 2.0

[noble adder]

is that ur only reason

invalid

[lost moat]

ok im still confused why lando had to let oscar win the race today

[snow swan]

2026 will be real fun for you

[simple fjord]

KI KI KI

[sacred compass]

Nothing wrong with electric ngl

[crisp mason]

what 💀

they arent going electric in f1 in 2026 💀

[sacred compass]

I prefer ICE, trust me but Electric is interesting

[crisp mason]

are you special

[noble adder]

exactly the racing is unreal you’ll get used to the sound

[lost moat]

50 50 powetrain

[magic thicket]

Listen the clue of my fav is person who is arguing over the goat of f1 right now

[sacred compass]

No but he hybrid is playing more of a role

[crisp mason]

i know that

but its still gonna be ICE

[sacred compass]

Seb?

[magic thicket]

Yes sir

[molten fulcrum]

🧊

[snow swan]

Yeah, I have both. Each have their pros

[sacred compass]

Seb is my favourite too

[crisp mason]

i stopped talking about that like 10 minutes ago.

[sacred compass]

I fr cried over his retirement

[magic thicket]

That’s a tad bit far

[sacred compass]

Yeah like I’m a mechanic I prefer ICE purely cuz they’re easier to work on 💀

[crisp mason]

nah guys, he comes back for 2026 🙏

[magic thicket]

Hope so

[crisp mason]

audi will have all german line up with mick and seb trust me

[sacred compass]

Eh he’s what got me into F1, was, in a way, there for me in dark times. Seeing him win, etc.

[noble adder]

gotta win the lottery in the same year for that to happen

[magic thicket]

The will win everything

[crisp mason]

or just be on major amounts of

[magic thicket]

The person who got my in to f1 wasn’t a driver it was my grandfather

[sacred compass]

If Seb comes back with Audi I’ll support Audi

[crisp mason]

anyway @snow swan about leclerc being better than hamilton, hes simply not, leclerc is a great driver for sure but not hamilton level

[magic thicket]

Same

[molten fulcrum]

why would he

[sacred compass]

Hell I’ll even quit my job at BMW and go work for them 💀

[crisp mason]

cos seb needs to be back 🙏

[molten fulcrum]

fair

[sacred compass]

🤷‍♂️ why not?

Not saying he will, just if

[molten fulcrum]

is audi gonna replace some team or is it gonna be +1 team on the grid

[noble adder]

i wanna just be a mechanic someday

[crisp mason]

sauber

[sacred compass]

Replacing Sauber

[molten fulcrum]

bruh

[sacred compass]

It’s a fun job but sometimes not so fun

[crisp mason]

so sauber is going from italian to german

wait sauber is italian right

[snow swan]

Yeah that I kept my bmw when I got tesla. Something to work on and upgrade.

[sacred compass]

It’s a Swiss team

[molten fulcrum]

sauber to kick sauber to stake to audi

[crisp mason]

oh swiss?

[sacred compass]

Yeah

[crisp mason]

no no its kick sauber stake i think

[sacred compass]

Sauber is Swiss, Alfa is Italian

[molten fulcrum]

Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber

[sacred compass]

What BMW you got?

[crisp mason]

yea that one ^^

[magic thicket]

Guys some weird people told to come here they said it was a SENNAic route

[crisp mason]

i hate that alphatauri is now racing bulls

[snow swan]

You are confusing lewis' past achievements to current skill. Right now leclerc is a better driver.

[crisp mason]

makes no fuckin sense

[crisp mason]

no hes not 💀

[noble adder]

im pursuing automotive / mechanical engineering. will be a tough journey😭

[snow swan]

2014 m3

[crisp mason]

hamilton won silverstone LECLERC WON MONACO

[molten fulcrum]

Alfa romeo to Sauber to Audi

[crisp mason]

MONACO = POLE SITTER WINS

[sacred compass]

Take it from me, don’t go work for BMW they’ll make you wanna commit 😭

[crisp mason]

no no first they were bmw sauber

[magic thicket]

So it will be Cyrpto Cash App Racing Bulls

[sacred compass]

Ooo very nice

[molten fulcrum]

only if sainz won spain 😭

[crisp mason]

why crypto

[magic thicket]

😭

[crisp mason]

vcarb is better

[magic thicket]

It’s already a sponsee

[noble adder]

how come?

[molten fulcrum]

crypto.com

[crisp mason]

not a name sponsor

and crypto.com is an f1 sponsor...

[magic thicket]

Ok that’s true

[crisp mason]

why you think its plastered on tracks

[sacred compass]

All jokes aside I love the brand, even if some stuff is over engineered and you question why they place certain stuff in certain places (like for some reason the Starter Motor on an E36 is impossible to get to)

[magic thicket]

It’s on the barriers tho

[molten fulcrum]

the audi f1 car model thing is already the 2026 one isnt it

[crisp mason]

i dont see the chrome logos plastered on tracks

[molten fulcrum]

this one

[crisp mason]

yes. meaning its an F1 sponsor

[snow swan]

Yeah, I wanted to get the m5 v8 hybrid. I still might later.

[sacred compass]

I wouldn’t be working for them if I didn’t like working on them lol, just some stuff makes me question why the engineers hate technicians so much

[molten fulcrum]

its an f1 sponsor

[crisp mason]

^^^

[magic thicket]

Yes I know

[crisp mason]

team sponsors are not on tracks

only on the cars

[sacred compass]

M5 has always been my favourite but I wanna know what the engineers were smoking when they drew the new M5 up, it’s heavier than a Mercedes Sprinter 😭

[magic thicket]

Need to go to the SPA in Belgium

[crisp mason]

man we need driver sponsors too

like in V8 supercars the drivers have their own sponsors

[molten fulcrum]

they have the brands on the gp full name

[crisp mason]

like i think its cam waters is sponsored by monster

[ornate pendant]

bruh what now?! 💀

[sacred compass]

That’s a thing in F1?

[sacred compass]

Delusional people fr

[snow swan]

Yeah seriously. Supposedly it's for more downforce but I don't buy that.

[crisp mason]

they have like driver specific sponsors?

[sacred compass]

Yes

[molten fulcrum]

he kind of did turn into him but it was mostly max's fault

[noble adder]

surely you’re kidding

[ornate pendant]

its just a racing incident goodness sake

[crisp mason]

whaddafaq, never knew that

[magic thicket]

Max remains on red bull he always is sippin on that. I fell like that’s were he autist….

[wise kelp]

I didnt see this lmao Good job Lando

[sacred compass]

Not it ways 2.5kg, the sprinter weighs 2.4

[noble adder]

a fucking M5 heavier than a sprinter?…

[molten fulcrum]

bro just threw it on the ground with so much anger

[ornate pendant]

i think max's thoughts said "if you no longer go for a gap that exists youre no longer a racing driver"

tbh its a racing incident

none to blame

[crisp mason]

tbh im happier that lando has won than oscar but still SO happy that oscar won

[sacred compass]

I don’t think so, it’s heavily down to the hybrid power train they put in it.

[molten fulcrum]

yeah

[sacred compass]

But the gap didn’t exist 😭

He took too much speed into the corner and went to deep

Tried a dive bomb from too far back, too

Then blamed lewis when he messed up

[crisp mason]

max been driving dirty since atleast austria

[ornate pendant]

yeah I think he will run off of t1 if he didnt made contact with lewis

[snow swan]

Yeah, that's why hope they can figure it out in the coming years. I can't see them not improving it

[ornate pendant]

its a racing incident chill

[molten fulcrum]

there really was a gap but he shit on the brakes

[noble adder]

i’ve just read that bmw lock acceleration features behind a paywall💀

[sacred compass]

May has always been aggressive that’s just his driving style

[crisp mason]

yes lando was diving into the corner but max had quite literally turned into him

[molten fulcrum]

i mean lewis is know for braking late max was kind of dumb with that decision

[crisp mason]

yes but hes been causing alot more incidents recently

[sacred compass]

I think that feature got removed

[crisp mason]

fr

[sacred compass]

Idk about BMW tho

I knew Mercedes did itv

[wise kelp]

Embarassing for him cause he had to pick it up again to wear

[sacred compass]

With EVs

[snow swan]

Do we need to bring up silverstone and monza from 2021?

[noble adder]

that shouldn’t even be a thing in general

[molten fulcrum]

max didnt sleep well he was angey

whilst that checo was motivated to get back to points

honestly he deserved dotd

[ornate pendant]

mate its already done

[magic thicket]

He Has More PTSD then everyone

[jade mural]

Congrats @magic thicket, you're now on lap 5

[noble adder]

paying thousands for any car just for its features to be hidden behind a paywall

[sacred compass]

It’s no different than paying for the „M Ultimate Package“ on the ICE cars tbf but the subscription doesn’t make sense

[noble adder]

like what is this ea sports?

[crisp mason]

silverstone 2021 lewis didnt turn in, monza i need to rewatch the incident

[crisp mason]

lewis did not move the wheel to the left at copse

[sacred compass]

They will, BMWs all about innovation. But ngl wish they kept the F90 design, most beautiful M5 there is

[magic thicket]

I know an incident

[molten fulcrum]

MONZA MENTIONED 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹

[snow swan]

Yup, same this large grill... not for me

[sacred compass]

Especially with the LCI

[sacred compass]

I mean the grille ain’t the worst part about it

[magic thicket]

Italia numero 1!!!

[sacred compass]

I like the look of the G80 M3/G82 M4

[crisp mason]

ok so with monza 2021, lewis was ahead at the apex meaning what guys

[sacred compass]

It’s just they’ve tried making the G90 look too futuristic

[snow swan]

No but it's one of the first things you notice haha

[crisp mason]

meaning max should have backed out

[molten fulcrum]

LATE BRAKING 🦅

[sacred compass]

I suppose yeah 💀

[sacred compass]

Mate it was 3 years ago

[snow swan]

The goat does not pull out

[sacred compass]

What’s done is done

[crisp mason]

the thane guy brought it up

so i had to teach him how it works

[magic thicket]

Listen Crashes in Italy Never Goes Well

[sacred compass]

I think I know what you’re referring to and let’s not

[snow swan]

Sainz and leclerc?

[sacred compass]

I assumed Senna Imola

[crisp mason]

anyway thane, max should have backed out, he caused the crash at monza, silverstone that one WAS a racing incident

[sacred compass]

He made a joke earlier with the picture of where Senna crashed saying it’s a „SENNAic spot“ or sumn

[crisp mason]

and lewis was on the racing line too

[molten fulcrum]

fuck what

the video didnt send

[magic thicket]

2021 all over again

[molten fulcrum]

only the thumbnail

hell naw

[snow swan]

Hey, has crofty not been on the broadcast as much this year?

[crisp mason]

anywhoooo @snow swan you clearly know nothing

[sacred compass]

He’s taking a step back

[sacred compass]

Spending time with family stuff like that

[crisp mason]

LMFAO

[snow swan]

About what?

[crisp mason]

@snow swan https://youtu.be/oIKel6jVD3Q?si=C-iEVnTca9NDcmbp&t=24 do me a favour, look at hamiltons wheel

[sacred compass]

Forgot how good looking the 2021 merc livery was

[snow swan]

What did I say?

[molten fulcrum]

"I find this unbelievable how can he be so blind"

[crisp mason]

was about the dirty driving from max since austria

and you said do we need to bring up british 2021 and monza 2021

so im just proving that monza was maxs fault and silverstone was racing incident

[molten fulcrum]

basically the same that happened but max locked up so it was mostly max's fault because there was no way for him to turn

[snow swan]

Oh I think max has always fought dirty. I was using 2021 as examples haha

[molten fulcrum]

max pushing the limits of what is and isnt allowed

[crisp mason]

oh i thought you were tryna say lewis caused them both

mb

[snow swan]

No

[sacred compass]

Mate I think everyone knows Silverstone was a racing incident. They were both racing hard, max has always had a „yield or crash“ driving style and Lewis was fed up of yielding cuz of it. Max also was swerving all over the track at the start even going off track to defend his position. It was the heat of the championship these things happen when there’s close competition

[crisp mason]

yea but locking up still makes it a racing incident

[molten fulcrum]

i know

but MOSTly max's fault

[magic thicket]

Guess my f1 team go

[crisp mason]

yea i know i just didnt know that the other guy was meaning max was driving like he has been recently

[snow swan]

Nice, not a bit fan of him on the broadcast. Love his podcast tho

[crisp mason]

but monza was DEFINITELY maxs fault

no denying it

[sacred compass]

Tbh I don’t remember much of Monza

Other than Hamilton ended up on top of Max

[crisp mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VSwwZYDW94

[sacred compass]

Think I was working during that race

[molten fulcrum]

how baby f3s are made

[crisp mason]

other way round

[magic thicket]

Bro guess my team

[crisp mason]

max was ontop of hamilton

[snow swan]

It was the other way around

[crisp mason]

aston cos that was last team seb was at

or rbr

cos sebs best team

[magic thicket]

No

Non of those

[molten fulcrum]

idk i dont think this was really max's fault

[remote knoll]

It was

[crisp mason]

no it was

lewis was ahead at the apex of t2

and on racing line

[remote knoll]

The sausage kerb didn't help but ultimately it was Max's fault

[molten fulcrum]

if you no longer go for a gap you are no longer a racing driver

[crisp mason]

it comes down to this, yield or crash mindset

[crisp mason]

hes still on track, but you can clearly see that lewis is ahead, even if its by a thousandth of a second, he still ahead

[remote knoll]

Not a racing incident

[sacred compass]

Mb

[remote knoll]

100% Lewis' fault

[crisp mason]

no...

[magic thicket]

Incident huh

[snow swan]

The problem with max is he always thinks he has the right of way and that others should leave him all the space in the world. But this isn't grade school. This is racing. We don't have safe spaces

[remote knoll]

Copse 2021?

[crisp mason]

yes.

[remote knoll]

Lewis Hamilton's fault

easy

[crisp mason]

lewis did nothign wrong 💀

[sacred compass]

It was literally a racing incident, they were both being over aggressive mate

[remote knoll]

Nah

[crisp mason]

https://youtu.be/oIKel6jVD3Q?si=C-iEVnTca9NDcmbp&t=24 do me a favour, look at hamiltons wheel

[remote knoll]

Lewis understeered into Max

I've watched the incident over 100 times now lol

[crisp mason]

so understeer which is out of lewis' control makes it his fault, alright

[remote knoll]

Uh yes?

[crisp mason]

good logic

something OUT OF THE DRIVERS CONTROL makes the incident his fault

[clever wedge]

yeah as a driver you should be in control of your car, no?

[remote knoll]

If you're out of control of your car then who's fault is it?

lmao?

[sacred compass]

I’ve watched the full race lead up to it, watch Max, watch how he drives, watch how he goes onto the grass to defend his position, he was way too aggressive, Lewis was having none of it, they clashed.
Racing incident

[crisp mason]

understeer is not controllable...

[molten fulcrum]

he couldve slowed down a little more but whatever

[remote knoll]

it literally is

understeer can be induced man

[sacred compass]

Lewis only got the penalty because max crashed and he didn’t

Either way

Again

[remote knoll]

Lewis was 90 meters from the apex

[sacred compass]

3 years ago

What’s done is done

[remote knoll]

Max gave Lewis room and he wasn't given that same room

[remote knoll]

Huh?

He got the penalty because it was his fault

[crisp mason]

no

[remote knoll]

Obviously he wouldnt get a penalty if he wouldnt crash his teammate ojt

it's universally agreed upon that Lewis was at fault

[crisp mason]

teammate??

what are you smoking

[remote knoll]

im amazed you are arguing this

[remote knoll]

It's a fucking mistake man

[crisp mason]

mercedes driver and redbull driver are teammates guys

you heard it here first

[remote knoll]

Wow you're petty

[crisp mason]

no its called banter

💀

[remote knoll]

Nah you're just petty

[crisp mason]

bro 💀

[molten fulcrum]

just wonder how long it takes to write these documents

[crisp mason]

you are so soft

[remote knoll]

Anyway

[crisp mason]

not long tbh

[molten fulcrum]

like to formulate everything and review everything you are saying

[remote knoll]

Ok

[crisp mason]

theyd have presets

[molten fulcrum]

yeah but about writing the information

[snow swan]

Whoa... watching ferrari fans argue is what it must be like in the ferrari strategy box.

[crisp mason]

thats prema

[molten fulcrum]

they dont have a preset for "car x locked up in turn y and hit car z because of blahblahblah"

[sacred compass]

Mostly by delusional red bull fans 💀 ask most level headed people (not Red Bull or Merc fans) and people who actually made a decision based on logic and not emotion (like I did cuz I am not neurotypical in anyway lol) and if you actually watch every little moment leading up to it it’s a by the book incident.

[crisp mason]

they potentially could

[remote knoll]

It's not delusional bro

even Lewis fans agree lol

[raven wagon]

Tell that to the stewards

[sacred compass]

Go watch the whole incident from the start like to copse

[solemn hare]

Are we still on about this 😭

[sacred compass]

They were both overly aggressive

[remote knoll]

If you're OUT OF CONTROL of your car and YOU end up hitting someone it's your fault

[crisp mason]

it was also michael masi who did give the report to the stewards

[remote knoll]

there is no argument

[remote knoll]

ok?

What are you trying to say

[crisp mason]

so you can control understeer, ok go ahead, control the understeer of an f1 car

[crisp mason]

that masi bent rules in favour of max?

[remote knoll]

didnt read what i said

at all

[sacred compass]

That Masi was completely biased against Lewis the whole season? Everybody knows that 💀💀

[molten fulcrum]

you fell off

[remote knoll]

that is a shitty argument im sorry

[molten fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-inconvenience-gif-23795670

[crisp mason]

its not considering he got sacked cos of it

[magic thicket]

What’s your team

[remote knoll]

nothing to do with silverstone tho

[crisp mason]

mclaren is my favourite but i like multiple

[crisp mason]

...

[sacred compass]

And they had to release a whole press statement being like „yeah he broke the rules so we’re changing them so that he didn’t lol sorry guys it’s our sport our rules“

[crisp mason]

literally

[remote knoll]

Nothing to do with Silverstone

[sacred compass]

It’s Masi

[remote knoll]

Nothing to do with the incident

[sacred compass]

So now you do call it an incident? Thought it wasn’t….

But all seriousness

[remote knoll]

bruh

[sacred compass]

Masi was hella biased against Lewis the whole season

[crisp mason]

anything related to masi giving the ruling is gonna make it not uhhh im blanking i cant think of the word 😭

biased

thats it

[sacred compass]

And it became fully evident at Abu Dhabi but you could see it in races like Silverstone

[crisp mason]

this

[remote knoll]

except Silverstone was on Lewis any steward would give him a penalty

[crisp mason]

"having recieved a report from the race director"

[crisp mason]

dont think so

[sacred compass]

Either way I’m done discussing Silverstone y‘all can think what you want I can think what I want Lewis still won the race

[crisp mason]

both drivers were in the wrong

[sacred compass]

It was 3 years ago

Idek why this came up

[raven wagon]

So you are suggesting Lewis was given a pen for Silverstone cause Masi was biased against Lewis? Tf is this logic

[molten fulcrum]

scarey

[crisp mason]

cos thane brought up silverstone and monza 2021

[remote knoll]

I know so

[magic thicket]

It’s a nightmare

[snow swan]

Checo still with Redbull?

[crisp mason]

its pretty logical 💀

[molten fulcrum]

43 points is crazy

[sacred compass]

Prolly not for long

[crisp mason]

but also the penalty, no the penalty was fair just saying it was all of lewis is wild

[molten fulcrum]

idk he didnt do bad this race

[sacred compass]

Actual competition in F1 is crazy

[remote knoll]

It was all of Lewis

[snow swan]

Idk how out of everyone, he bins it so bad in qualifying

[raven wagon]

Dude Max gave Lewis enough room at Copse, Lewis missed the apex and hit Maxs rear tyre, its clear as day its a pen

[remote knoll]

what is Max supposed to do?

[molten fulcrum]

if he can keep this for the rest of the season

[sacred compass]

He getting old

Even Nando is falling off due to age

[remote knoll]

If you miss the corner and crash into your opponent then idk what you'd expect

[crisp mason]

we can thank checo for making this possible

[snow swan]

Not just old, there has to be something else

[raven wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/charles-leclerc-ferrari-formula1-copse-bitish-gp-gif-27489256

[crisp mason]

uh i know! hes shit!

[snow swan]

Still Nando is doing so good in qualifying

[sacred compass]

He’s never been too good of a driver, somewhat consistent but not really good

[molten fulcrum]

man look at bahrain, saudi, australia, china and USA how did they fumble it this badly

[snow swan]

Perez just seems to be lost in qualifying

[sacred compass]

Holy shit

[molten fulcrum]

they had such a good start of season

[sacred compass]

Man

I can’t type 💀

[crisp mason]

checo fell off after the first 5 races 💀

hes shit

[remote knoll]

The funniest thing I've seen all week tbh

[crisp mason]

give the seat to someone who knows how to drive

[molten fulcrum]

dont say that about my pookie checo 😭

[crisp mason]

no hes shit

admit it

[molten fulcrum]

he will do well next races i promise 😭

[crisp mason]

hes good pr but not for driving

[snow swan]

Redbull have been so much patient with him

[sacred compass]

Honestly the only reason Checo is in that seat is cuz Red Bull KNEW he wouldn’t compete with Max

[crisp mason]

exactly

[snow swan]

Checo did well. He finished 2 positions behind max this race.

[crisp mason]

so theres no way max can lose the championship to teammate

[molten fulcrum]

he did well this race i believe he can do better next race

[sacred compass]

He wouldn’t compete with Max but would help them win the Constructors

[crisp mason]

only lando rn

[molten fulcrum]

and train on not crashing on qualifying

[crisp mason]

honestly if sainz and max could be teammates they would dominate

[molten fulcrum]

i pray he doesnt

[sacred compass]

Red Bull should have actually given their juniors a chance instead of signing Perez

[molten fulcrum]

where is the contract of perez i heard some people say something they can get rid of checo if he has a point difference or something

[snow swan]

Max sounded so angry on radio with his pitcrew strategy calls

[sacred compass]

The lost Sainz and now look at him

Even Gasly and Albon perform decently and they kicked them out

[raven wagon]

Repromoting Gasly was the only option at that time

[snow swan]

I didn't get the way to introduction part from GP to Max, can anyone explain?

[raven wagon]

Gasly sucked ass at Redbull, underperformed and got lapped by Max

[sacred compass]

Then they sign some old man who can barely drive over their junior drivers making the junior team redundant

[crisp mason]

yea

[remote knoll]

Fair enough

[sacred compass]

AND THEN they hire another older driver for their junior team

[raven wagon]

Albon was good in 2019, then after Austria 2020 he was mired in the midfield

[crisp mason]

i think its cos the year before he was actually doing bits in that racing point

[remote knoll]

Any driver would be pissed about their team's incompetence

[molten fulcrum]

you cant answer that with "yea"

[sacred compass]

He was promoted too fast, I fully believe if he was promoted for 2021 instead of 2019 he’d perform well

[molten fulcrum]

i want to read the contract with my own eyes

[crisp mason]

wdym 😭

that is what the contract says

[snow swan]

Basically saying that he isn't easing his tires. Max was pushing and burning his tires from the moment he left the pits

[molten fulcrum]

yeah but the specific words

[sacred compass]

He had one good performance and that was Sahkir

[molten fulcrum]

i will be checo's lawyer

[raven wagon]

Danny Ric left Redbull after 2018, Redbull had to promote Gasly or Hartley

[crisp mason]

which was honestly not even that good cos george got robbed, 2 punctures

[snow swan]

Oh okay got it

[remote knoll]

Hartley for the win 🔥

[snow swan]

Thank you

[sacred compass]

I mean yeah that’s true

But they could have given him more time than half a season 😭

[raven wagon]

Plus Gasly was good in 2018, P4 in Bahrain for example

[molten fulcrum]

honesty danny ric isnt that bad its just that RB is shit at basically everything

[remote knoll]

eh

[molten fulcrum]

if he were in like haas or something he would do insanely well i know it

[crisp mason]

my thought is, put danny back in the rbr, put liam in the vcarb and if danny doesnt perform, whoever does better out of yuki and liam, promote them

[snow swan]

Checo should go to HAAS

[raven wagon]

Albon with like 13 races of f1 experience performed significantly better than Pierre in 2019

[molten fulcrum]

ocon is already there basically

[magic thicket]

What’s your team

[molten fulcrum]

🐻👨 and ⭕🥫

[sacred compass]

I mostly remember Albon binning it more often than not 💀

[molten fulcrum]

rebdull

[magic thicket]

Wow

[snow swan]

I thought there were now talks of ocon joining williams

[molten fulcrum]

i doubt it

[sacred compass]

I heard Haas not Williams

[magic thicket]

I guess you support McLaren

[remote knoll]

there are

[molten fulcrum]

i hate when people say i support redbull just because of max i always liked it since seb was there and i just liked the energy drink

[sacred compass]

Same 💀

Im starting to dislike the team cuz of the way Max acts sometimes

[crisp mason]

monster better 🥱

[remote knoll]

true

[molten fulcrum]

the mango flavor is

but the normal one nah

[sacred compass]

And when Marko gets in front of a camera is just like

Who let him talk?

[crisp mason]

you had the peach one??

[molten fulcrum]

yeah the peach one is also good

[snow swan]

For now but I'm constantly losing faith in lando and now the strategy team.

[sacred compass]

One of the worst flavours

[molten fulcrum]

what

[crisp mason]

so lando has been getting pole and youre losing faith??

[molten fulcrum]

😭

[sacred compass]

I hate Mango Loco

[molten fulcrum]

i hate you

[crisp mason]

its so good

[sacred compass]

Aussie Lemonade >>>

[remote knoll]

Max's aggression on the radio is fine but doing moves like the one he did on Lewis is when is starts to concern me

[sacred compass]

That’s what I mean

[snow swan]

How many times has he converted a pole to a win?

[sacred compass]

He’s going back to his uh

I can’t say the nickname

Cuz the bot will mute me

[crisp mason]

W line max

[remote knoll]

i know what you mean

[sacred compass]

Yeah

His rookie nickname 💀

[crisp mason]

once but dont forget how many times hes been screwed by either max or the team

[molten fulcrum]

they did fuck up his steering i know it

[remote knoll]

it's impressive how his car didnt have damage

[molten fulcrum]

he was understeering alot whole race

[sacred compass]

I might support Lewis in his final days of F1

[remote knoll]

well noticeable damage

[cold solar]

yes

[snow swan]

Are you sure about once? Which one?

[molten fulcrum]

and he loves oversteer so i understand why he is so mad

[crisp mason]

no he just didnt brake enough

[cold solar]

i love GP callingmax childish

[sacred compass]

He seems less interested in winning and just being a chill dude vibing in the sport

[crisp mason]

wait no he wasnt on pole in miami, mb

[sacred compass]

Which I respect

[molten fulcrum]

nah he was doing understeer basically the whole race

[snow swan]

He didn't call him childish lol

[snow swan]

Well there you go haha

[cold solar]

"you cant divebomb like that" -Austrian GP
Divebombs in hungary

[sacred compass]

He did

[cold solar]

he did

after lewis divebomb out of anger

[snow swan]

He said it would be childish if GP was to speak with other teams on radio regarding that

[molten fulcrum]

you think max verstappen fucking 3 time world champion would just "forget to brake"

[remote knoll]

The car is understeery? that means checo is about to cook

[magic thicket]

No ask me what my fav team is

[sacred compass]

„It’s just childish Max. childish“

[remote knoll]

he certainly forgot how to brake into T1

[crisp mason]

@molten fulcrum you right

[cold solar]

basically he said hes not even gonna bother because it was just childish

[crisp mason]

im rewatching the race, cos i wanna see oscar more

[sacred compass]

Fr he was constantly moving under braking in Austria then tried getting Lewis into shit for it when Lewis didn’t even move 💀

[molten fulcrum]

he hated this setup

[cold solar]

i wouldnt want my maiden f1 win to be like piastris

[molten fulcrum]

he was mad because of it

[cold solar]

lewis was just turning in and max locked up

[crisp mason]

but also, bottas p12 is insane from quali in that BOAT

[sacred compass]

Yeah

[remote knoll]

That was clear frustration from Max

[snow swan]

Okay and?

[molten fulcrum]

checo is known for having more understeery car but he has gotten alot of upgrades now to optimize it

[remote knoll]

Lewis "pushed him off" the lap before and Max wanted payback

[sacred compass]

Well I’m officially cooked

[sacred compass]

It’s 0430 I gotta be up for 0600

[snow swan]

The team messed up and Lando did the right thing

Piastri deserved it

[remote knoll]

Im ngl i wouldnt have been mad if Lando kept the lead

[snow swan]

I think max like understeer and checo oversteer

[remote knoll]

it's McLaren's fault

[sacred compass]

Do I try get like an hour and a half of sleep or just pull an all nighter?

[remote knoll]

Definitely not

[molten fulcrum]

no??

max is the oversteer god

[sacred compass]

Other way round

[molten fulcrum]

probably not

[cold solar]

yes i know he deserved it
but being 6 secs ahead is just crazy for team orders
especially when the guy leading ins in the championship battle

[molten fulcrum]

but anyways

[remote knoll]

Max loves crazy oversteery

just ask Albon

[crisp mason]

who cares who won, they still got same points BUT lando win would have made championship EVEN closer than it is all things considered

[snow swan]

But the team did the RIGHT thing at the end

Realizing their mistake

[snow swan]

Oh no I'm thinking of the fossil Alonso

[remote knoll]

that was super silly from McLaren

[crisp mason]

but still oscar deserves a win, hes been performing amazingly

[sacred compass]

The main reason a lot of other drivers struggled with the RB is cuz it was focused towards Max’s driving style that took full advantage of oversteer and a peaky front end

[molten fulcrum]

max was so angey the whole race with the setup not being like what he wants he got too frustrated

[remote knoll]

Oscar's first win feels odd because of it

[molten fulcrum]

thats why he was "childish"

[sacred compass]

This is what I been saying

[snow swan]

Mclaren screwed him out of 2 victories this season

[sacred compass]

It was 6s lead that was growing every lap until he slowed down to let Oscar pass

[remote knoll]

2?

[snow swan]

If anything, this outcome will boost Piastri's confidence

[molten fulcrum]

i look at max's telemetry i know when his car is not doing what he wants

[sacred compass]

And Oscar also had newer tyres

[crisp mason]

😭

[snow swan]

Which is good for the team

[sacred compass]

Cuz he knows the team will gift him wins? 😭

[snow swan]

No lol

[remote knoll]

if I was Piastri I would be questioning my team

[crisp mason]

lando def would be better off with the extra 7 points

[remote knoll]

that was a messy performance

[snow swan]

Silverstone and Miami

It's because he feels the team cares about him after the all the previous team orders favouring Lando

[remote knoll]

messiest 1-2 i've ever seen 💀

[crisp mason]

closing the gap even more

[cold solar]

i think there was some sort of contract agreement inside

[remote knoll]

Miami?????

[sacred compass]

Yeah they can’t tell another driver to slow down cuz THEY messed up

[crisp mason]

miami??? sainz screwed him in miami tf

[molten fulcrum]

i think lando was like
-"omg yes after so many races fighting with verstappen i can finally win easily"
-"lando let oscar through"
-"😭"

[snow swan]

They messed him up before that though

How many times have the team favoured Lando ahead of Piastri?

[remote knoll]

exactly, and then McLaren gaslit Lando into giving the position, like YALL caused this

[snow swan]

And messed up his race

[gray viper]

norris deserved it honestly

[crisp mason]

do me a favour, check oscars finishing position

[sacred compass]

Yeah they fr emotionally manipulated him AND tried lying about his BRAND NEW MEDIUMS saying they weren’t gonna last

[molten fulcrum]

next chance mclaren gets of winning they will 100% give it to lando

[remote knoll]

Lando pulling 6 seconds, even tho Oscar was newer tires

[cold solar]

Well the way they did it was just downright stupid
"Okay lando, your going too fast"
"Okay lando, save tires"
now theres a championship battle lando should be favoured naturally
if anything it doesnt boost his confidence
it lowers landos and makes piastri question mclarens strats

[molten fulcrum]

bro has a stockpile of printed out fia pubs

[crisp mason]

nah i went and grabbed it

[remote knoll]

this is what a few seasons as a midfielder does to you I guess

[sacred compass]

Fr where yall get these from?

[crisp mason]

from #f1-news

[molten fulcrum]

fia.com

[sacred compass]

Oh nice

[sacred compass]

Yeah

[snow swan]

That is literally McLaren's pit crew summed up this year

[crisp mason]

mclaren pit crew has fallen off

[molten fulcrum]

https://www.fia.com/documents/championships/fia-formula-one-world-championship-14/season/season-2024-2043

[sacred compass]

Thanks

[crisp mason]

from having world record fastest stop to being "slow"

that 1.8s stop was fucking mental

[remote knoll]

RedBull with their 3.0 second stop aswell 🤢

[molten fulcrum]

i mean its hard to get too consistent with pit stops

[cold solar]

I thought the original radio was that if piastri could catch up they would swap positions
didnt it

[molten fulcrum]

you can be on average a bit faster than all other teams but still

hard to be fully consistent

[remote knoll]

I think

[crisp mason]

it is yes but if there is no issues then you should be consistent

[molten fulcrum]

nah they were screaming for lando to give the position and lando was mad he wasnt catching up

[cold solar]

and then it went to just plain "let piastri by even though you're nearly 6 seconds down the road and extending the gap"

[snow swan]

Would Piastri had been passed by Lando if they pitted him in early? Probably, but ending up undercutting own teammate while trying undercut Lewis was the reason McLaren chose to let Piastri win it

[molten fulcrum]

and lando at the same time thinking about "what if i dont"

[molten fulcrum]

i think it was part of the "strategy"

[snow swan]

Lando was given team orders to hold back Lewis

[crisp mason]

while i think that lando should have won, im so happy that oscar did

[molten fulcrum]

even though risky

[remote knoll]

Why was McLaren thinking they were fighting Lewis?

[molten fulcrum]

yeah over 10s gap

[sacred compass]

Doesn’t matter if he undercut his own team mate what were they gonna do if Lewis undercut them? Beg Lewis to let them past? 😭

[remote knoll]

Lewis was too busy getting sent by Max

[crisp mason]

like an aussie on the top step again is so nice

[snow swan]

That's the problem isn't it?

[molten fulcrum]

lewis also locked up a couple times trying to defend max

lewis is insanely good at defending

[snow swan]

McLaren crew not knowing what tf do

[molten fulcrum]

shit i even forgot russell

he did an amazing race too