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like the nurburgring
yeah
couldve made some sweet sweet cash with that
fr fr
profit wouldve been more than whatever bribe they took 😭
💀
Vietnam
my work ends the minute the race starts loll
Just go to Montreal 🔥🔥🔥
keep in mind 500k vnd is 20 usd 😭
or the nurburgring 🔥🔥🔥
probs fia idrk
i swear if kmag gets another few penalties in montreal he boutta be banned like tiktok (correct me if im wrong)
vietnamese
real
He’s on 10 I think, 2 more and he misses a race
i wish
daym
because ollie is gonna drive again 🙏
ollie 🔥
vietnamese politicians when they realize the money was for heart disease donations not a land cruiser:
probably their reaction: 
my nitro is gonna become my nonexistent girl tomorrow
leaving me
Sure! The one is already been processed
Don’t know how the managed to do that in less than 24 hours
Yoooo
Lance stroll is gonna win this gp 🦅🦅🦅💯💯🔥🔥🔥
my delusion:
keep dreaming 😔😱
Ngl I really hope lewis has a comeback
would be nice to see a comeback
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I MEANT MAPLE SYURIP
Syrup

Anybody from Canada?
i’m from cali
I’m from Montreal, we already see the city getting prepared for next week it’s pretty cool
Canada isnt real
Αβγδεζηθικλμνξοπρστυφχψω
hello
I mustn’t be real then 😔
correct
bro is not real ❌🙅♀️
wait whats canada?
My FINAL 2025 driver lineup predictions
Red Bull: Verstappen, Perez
Ferrari: Hamilton, Leclerc
McLaren: Norris, Piastri
Mercedes: Antonelli, Russell
Aston Martin: Stroll, Alonso
VCarb: Tsunoda, Lawson
Alpine: Gasly, Doohan
Williams: Albon, Bottas
Haas: Ocon, Bearman
Sauber: Sainz, Hulkenberg
Question for the Canadians, what it’s like living there?, I’m just curious
cold
Cold, wet, hot and dry
All within the same week
the race is 2 days before my birthday. yay!
There’s a chance of some rain all weekend in Montreal 👀
nobody actually lives in canada
Ryan Reynolds
alpine is stupid
they won’t use their amazing young drivers
they’ll hire somebody on the grid
and who better
than DANNIEEEEL RICCIAARDOOOOO
danny and gasly would be the best
YES
poor riccardo
prime riccrado was a beast
doubt that
unless the new management has changed their opinion
they only chose gasly cuz gasly was better at that time
daniel approached alpine the last time he was looking for a drive and the reception to it was mixed
if gasly was bad they would have gone to ricciardo
bridges got BURNED hard when he snubbed them
they were close to taking him
gasly was just showing up like crazy
but now it’s ricciardo or like frickin zhou
how do i remove pride role
at this point do we know who’s better
to say close is something but at the same time their options were so limited and gasly was a better option than Ricciardo
by far
at the time
it isn't any better now
and anyway
zhou?
ricciardo
RB are likely to keep him
????????
oh
for what
he’s literally getting roasted on a stick by tsunoda
for the same reasons he's there
next year it’s lawson and tsunoda in the car
yeah
RBR has never backed Lawson
the board haven't been interested
yeah they have
the helmut dude has
they promised him a seat for 2025
I'm jk
Marko is the opposite
like literally promise
so am I
that promise literally also states he can go looking elsewhere if they don't take him on
all the recent indications suggest they retain who they have
if Ricciardo is to stay on the grid it will have to be with RB
i think ricciardo should make the move the alpine or go home
and make them rebrand back to renault for gods saie
i don’t think he will stay on the grid
he’ll be a reserve for rbr
bruh then daniel’s over then
who
and the relationship is still not great
doohan, gasly, bottas
i mean they drop ocon, they run gasly and ricciardo
Bottas, Doohan and Martins by them are seen as better options
make of it what you will
but that is how they feel
Red Bull has option in general on Ricciardo
so it isn't even a question at this point
rbr will never take ricciardo unless he wins a fucking championship in the vcarb
he knows he needs to actually be beating Tsunoda rather than being narrowly beaten on pace
Red Bull in general
the company
the racing team that makes decisions on drivers
wym
RBR does not have faith in Tsunoda and hasn't for a while
and when you look into the pace Tsunoda is like barely ahead of Ricciardo
like 0.07% at best
on average
way less than Norris was ahead of Ricciardo in 21 and 22
but yeah he's beating him of course and his results are making everyone think the car is worse than it actually is
again
like he was doing so in 23
i’m starting to give up on ricciardo man
fuck this guy
he can’t even beat tsunoda
however the issue is the priorities at RB have changed it isn't about promoting drivers necessarily
he definitely died in the crash where he broke his wrist this is just a husk of him
they want to get the most out of the team
Red Bull GMBH that is
so the car is their concern first and continuity and the marketing Daniel brings is enough for them atm
that is Lawson's issue
it might not even be a question of performance and they have never been particularly enthusiastic about him
they'll take him when they need him
they do like him to a certain degree but it is not completely sincere enough
that it gets him a drive
if Lawson had fucking annihilated Tsunoda in the brief stint or creamed everyone in F2
would obviously be a different story
i don't think much of Lawson in terms of his full potential but I would like to see him and he certainly starts well through sheer adapting
Hi
yk it might be fun like that
right now they need someone better than perez
it won’t be ricciardo for a while
so
ggs
i need to get over him
just like all the girls that rejected and dumped me
i mean there’s sainz
do we know who has a similar driving style to max?
on the current grid?
of those in the top 4 in the wcc
leclerc and piastri mostly
norris is an interesting one but sainz, russell, hamilton and perez all prefer a rearward bias car
hard to get someone better than perez is who wont be a headache to max
riccy..?
🙂
max loves riccy
max + riccy was the best
except azerbaijan that one time lol
heheh
the same way hamilton loved bottas and pecco loves bastianini
hamilton liked bottas because he didn’t challenge him, when ricciardo and max were teammates they challenged one anotjer
It's rawe ceek.
I need to do some catching up i havent seen the emilia romagno gp yet or monaco and theres an another gp this weekend💀
After he takes out every driver🔥🔥
do you know the results
leclerc won both
and max decided to give up
Oh cool
Well the championship part i dont believe but the race part yes
But i think leclerc has a shot at a wdc in coming years
I don't think Red Bull have just fallen off a cliff
Max isn't just gonna lay down and lose
My Ferrari and haas delusions are at an all time high
Oh yeah Alonso stated Aston will be getting a big upgrade package soon
Don’t know how soon though if anyone got any more info on that let me know
ok, so they'll be out in Q1 all the time then 
based off how upgrades normally go for them
Upgrade? Alonso and Stroll out in Q1 itself, sounds like it.
Fucking A
Media part 1: "Alonso treated badly!"
Media part 2: "Alonso washed!"
lmfao
Krack knows the answer.
Mike hawk
Mike litoris
That is the best and I have ever heard
It's rice weak
rawe ceek
OCON IS LEAVING ALPINE
?
LMFAOOOOOO
Nah I’m crying this overtake really led to him leaving 😭😭😭😭
And he's GONE
Silly season is crazy this year
Imagine gasly leaves too
imagine alpine leaves
Amen
the grid
Imagine if Flavio took over
Honestly I am a bit sorry he's leaving because he was probably one of the few drivers that reached f1 not from a rich as fuck family
But eh if you can't deliver... and can't get along with fucking anyone
there's the door
I'll gladly take a guy with a fuckton of funds and talent rather than a hothead from a "relatively" humble family
what does this mean for ocon
Alpine have been gassing mick up
Or a seat in haas
whats a gap year
Nico is not there anymore for next year
why
Remember that
He's going to sauber lmao
wtf
we've also got the Red Bull news in about 45 mins too (will very likely be Perez contract extension)
esteban oh
They announce Esteban joining the team.
Basically no seat for a year
Carlos finger crossed 😔
oh alr
Why would they announce a contract extension with this much media attention?have they ever done this in the past?


or what if is verstappen resign 
WHAT
what what
what cubed ok:))
you are drunk bcz ocon leaving alpine or why?
F1 this weekend
How do you know?
Because I'm an alcoholic
it was reported like a day after Monaco that perez extension was coming
rumours abt it
Sorry
Intriguing
i can't understand why redbull thought to re-sign with perez
like on the monday after the GP
Thanks guys
you should go to sleep man
I only do film industry stuff lol
No big deal
But ok
Night key night
and
Yeahs
I worked on drive to survive
Jejeje
Damn
interseting
Reee
red bull late
Who do you think will win the Canadian Grand Prix?
Max
Nicholas Mazepin 
cold
what² np
I could have sworn there was meant to be news from red bull, but apparently not
real?
Leclerc back to back wins I’m so ready
They created a broadcast channel on instagram saying, announcement soon
Or smth like that
Redbull be teasing everybody
Weaknesses of the RB, he ended up hitting the wall on his final flying lap
hit barrier first corner on last lap
"I've kissed the wall"
More like French kissed the wall
they put a chicane cone in monaco to stop him 😔
Seriously with no more Newey RB are seriously showing problems
Wait so you mean Newey left mid season?
I’m unsure what his status is but he isn’t on the pit wall anymore, hasn’t been for a few races and he is leaving
He’s literally an observer with a Red Bull headset at this point
Oh Hmm
You must really be hitting the copium if you think an Aston podium will happen this year
yuki tsunoda becomes wdc 2024 trust
hello guys what your bets on this gp?
I’m sleeping so put bets on a McLaren win
Only GP I was asleep for and only McLaren win this season (So far)
risky bro risky bro hahah
ya right hes not gonna make up the gap to sargeant, who will lap the grid 4 times
we back to gilles villeneueve
e
if ferrari p1 and max gets 1 point then leclerc will lead the championship
No? Max is 31 points clear, that's more than what you can score in a weekend
ok 2 podiums but max isnt on the podium
and one of them is a win
Well sure but this is highly improbable
Should Perez's dip in form continues though
All it takes is one bad weekend for Max and Ferrari get the WCC lead
guys
because he aint as bad as all of y'all say he is
Congrats @hard jungle, you're now on lap 5
he's decent
Explain
even when they removed the parts he still won on merit
also he's out qualified fernando since the miami sprint
and everyone knows lance isn't a qualifier
So we are going to ignore his questionable at best driving standards
I mean he crashed into seb after the race ended
He has a pole position on merit
average stroll argument
he was a rookie he mad a mistake
also please tell me why tf I'm up at 5am
He’s still making the same mistakes though
Latifi in Australia
Literally any of his Monaco races
bro we are trying to have a civalized conversation
ok
I know he's not thre best
however he's not as bad as everyone says he is
I’m not saying he is the worst, but that he should at least be trying to improve
ik
but being the worst of the 20 best drivers still means somthing right
Stroll is definitely more worthy of a seat than Logan or smth but like come on
Stop crashing into people
True
i mean there are crash happy drivers
Even though there are better drivers than stroll in f2
like andrea de crasheris
bearman
or crashtor maldanado
he is indeed a better driver than over 80% of the drivers that exist in the world
im just saying
but if we're talking strictly f1 he's in the bottom 20%
takrasha sato
And let Theo take his seat
its that i think he'll do good under that situation
Goatifi
Do not ever slander my glorious king Nicholas goatifi
stroll just has consistency issues and pace fluctuation(NOT the same thing btw)
So he is better than stroll
the best candaidan driver ever
Therefore Latifi to Aston Martin
its satire bro
anyways bye
gtgt
bye
i enjoyed our conversation
Bye
Redbull edging us?
OCON TO RED BULL WOOOOOOOO
aww i kinda wanted sainz in red bull :(
who do you guys think is gonna be in red bull?
I have no idea at this point
Max and Sergio (maybe).
I like how Piastri's comment on Alpine's announcement last year has just become a meme
Oscar needs to find a way to make this his home race
Get adopted by Stroll.
✅
can you source where the "illegal parts developed by williams" came from
Stroll doesn't deserve all the hate he gets
if only he put a bit more effort
Its more DTS showing him as a paydriver/lazy
Jesus fucking Christ since that fucking RPM video came out everyone is echoing this exact thing
I have literally heard from no one, here or out of here about Stroll having illegal parts developed by Williams
Yet since RPM entertained this case happily on his latest video, everyone takes it as fucking gospel
my favourite hobby in this server is asking people for sources lmao
Any non-Australian race: exists
Oscar Piastri: gonna go check my ancestry real quick
Oscar to be adopted by lawrence stroll
I’m not sure whether Verstappen and Ocon would be funnier than Perez and Ocon
that would be worse than ocon vs fernando
im canadian so what if i went onto twitter and asked oscar if i can adopt him to make canada his home race
Yes
good idea
yes but is it oscar's home race week
Ain't no way Ocon is going to redbull i would shit myself
I took it from someone else in this server
I think it was @atomic oracle
oscar piastri-leclerc-stroll
god i cant wait for haas to finish p15-p10 again
Prema Powerteam has stated that an illegal part thought to have been developed by the Williams Formula 1 team did not enhance Lance Stroll's speed in qualifying for the Formula 3 European Championship at Zandvoort
yeah true people only heard about it because of the rpm video
doesn't mean it's fake though even if u never heard it
RPM loves to hate LS18
this has been up since 2016
indeed he does
but autosport doesn't
he won euro F3 sure
and strolls a talented driver
sometimes
I wouldn't talk about it like it were real if there weren't actual sources
According to German site Auto Motor und Sport, Stroll spent an exuberant amount of money on teams, engineers, and simulators to lock in his son as Williams' next number two driver.
Stroll purchased the entire Prema F3 team and hired skilled Ferrari engineer Luca Baldisserri to oversee the winning 2016 season. He also bought Williams a new high-tech racing simulator for his son to practice on with the team.
In preparation for his future role, Lance was sent on a worldwide test program equipped with a 2014 Williams-chassis car, two Mercedes engines, five Mercedes engineers, and an additional 20 staff members. This was to cater to his every need while he learned the car and the engine he'll be racing with.
whether or not it actually gave him an advantage it was definitely the aim
So it’s not confirmed, just speculation that it was made by Williams, got it:
nowhere does it say that there's an illegal part from Williams
RPM doesn't know shit lol
its probably perez
again
fuck
leclerc to redbull
pelase
maybe he can win there
for gods sake
No
I wish canadian gp wasnt in montreal
They need a second Canadian track 🙏🙏
Toronto street track would be amazing
Cannot wait for Vancouver street track
if indycars Toronto track is anything to go by, no thanks.
I dont know anything about this circuit but i think this looks really bad not gonna lie. I could go to a race though lol
I just wish canada had an actual like cool iconic track you know, like somewhere in invermere would be so cool because thats the prettiest place in canada
There aren’t really any other good places in Canada for a decent f1 track
yeah the old champ race was decent
Yeah but i wish there was cuz ngl i dont really like quebec and a vancouver race seems like itd be hell
granted I have no idea what goes into an f1-eligble track but im a big fan of the Canadian Tire Motorsport Park
It looks fun to drive but definitely needs some infrastructure or something around it cuz its just some road on grass right now, but i guess atleast in other series theres races like virgenia international raceway thats just green
well yes but it's highly likely
read the I sent a bit further up
which part
the part with words probably
.
@slim chasm
stroll was a dsqed for an illegal part
and?
vettel should have won 2011 canada 😢
he literally had an illegal part on his car
so does half the grid
at one point or another
it's F3 euro after all
as did verstappen
and considering the amount of money his father put into an F3 championship
plus the close relationship with williams
the amount of staff members he hired purely for his son
and the fact a Williams person was there at the traco
good son dad relationship ngl
the team name
and?
it's pretty likely the part was developed by williams
you know that there's a lot of guys with it
yes it's F3 euro
you can buy parts from anyone
that's all I was asked for sources 😭
ppl were like 'oh where does it say illegal part'
so I provided my sources and reasoning 💀
nowhere it says that illegal part is from Williams
stop spreading shit lol
it says thought to be
what's with the aggressive attitude everyone 😭
hi
cause you're spreading bullshit lol
am I?
im not doing this fucking arguement again
oh yes
he is
lace strol very sigma 👍
oh no
no one knows where the part came from, therefore its not bullshit if I can provide sufficient evidence to explain why I believe it was made by Williams

and where is the evidence?
.
if there was an illegal part on his car
it was all williams
nowhere in there says that the illegal part is from Williams
Nah it's the team's fault
ok im not gonna continue this discussion 😭
they didn't fit it properly
I didn't say it was there
sure buddy sure
I said that's my evidence to make the connection to williams
because Williams offered him a test?
really now
no?
because he bought prema and hired a shit ton of staff members and the stroll family threw tons of money and bought Williams a lot
and?
none of this matters if lance is good
and he is
so it's not unreasonable to believe he had demands of his own considering how much he provided for the team
Lance is good
because?
but he's too inconsistent 😭
I'm yet to see any argument or evidence of a connection
because he gave Williams a lot of financial support?
but only because of his son
so why would he support Williams if it didn't benefit his son
and?
because Williams gave him F1 test and sims?
no
stroll bought the sim
well a sim
Stroll bought a high tech SIM for the team
for his son to use as well
Stroll brought a equipment, Williams has the rest
data, personnel, etc
yes but how's that relevant
that's nothing impressive lol
unusual, but not that impressive
So, the connection is that because of his connections with Williams, you have reason to believe the illegal part was developed by Williams, despite this not being confirmed
because of his large financial support of Williams, as well as the close relationship because of his son, and the fact that Lawrence's activities are basically centred around helping his son and his son only, as well as a Williams mechanic being present at the track for a euro F3 race and a development car,
and?
But not confirmed, that's kind of the important part here
does a WIlliams staff wipe his sweat as well due to the financial support? Provide him with lemonades?
as well as the fact the prema team boss 'would not comment' on whether it was a Williams part
why on earth would he comment on bullshit lol
if you come to Vasseur and ask if the car is illegal, you would get smacked as well with a no comment
ok if you're gonna be that aggressive prove why it's bullshit
prove how you know it wasnt
because for all of us it's speculation
there is no source saying it is
simple
therefore it is horseshit
that's not a valid reason
it is
there's plenty of evidence suggesting it may have been so 'no source' doesn't cut it
such as?
I'm yet to see one
🥱
@atomic oracle u prolly got all ur talking points from RPM right?
well
guys
@slim chasm do u want the link to the video
I don't watch trash
how many 9/11 jokes did that rpm video have about stroll
im placing bets on at least 3
RPM is admitly funny
never heard of rick
cant say i have no
damn
I tend to stick to only informative and educational creators
RPM does make some valid points tho
with actual backing in their field of work
who?
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he was former merc aero engineer
kyle is the goat
yeah makes insanely detail analysis
is stroll good according to u
not good not bad
define good
poll
he is just mid
because you cant be an f1 driver without being good
he is
below
avg
but
yep
he does drive decently sometimes
that's the problem
mostly*
Lance is good enough for F1
how
true
mazepin never qualified above p17
mazepin was historically bad
maybe f2 lvl
yep
i think lance is about danny ric's level
agreed
nah buddy
prob
I should correct myself to exclude a very specific few drivers
that was fucking 2017 and 2018
bro wake up this is 2024
14-18
But in modern F1, you cant be an f1 driver without being good
@sand compass
Alonso is washed tbf
never say never
thats a better way of saying that
yeh he is 42
f2 drivers dont outpreform alonso 50% of the time
stroll is overhated
hes the most underrated driver on the grid
i do understand why he is hated
overrated
how
nobody rates stroll without meme lol
he takes no accountability
people consider him to be the worst driver in the sport
goatifi
yuji ide
The 2 last times someone took responsibility of an accident was ocon monaco 2024 and lewis qatar 2023
and they were both
yuji ide the only mf to get his super license revoked
teammates
thats how you know it got bad
4 race 3 DNF
lewis is washed tbh
everyone knows
still the 4th best driver on the grid
he is walking vettel's path
how
vettel
by idk driving
vettel is the goat in my heart
Its either him or fernando
and you say stroll is overrated
seb is the most overrated driver in f1 history
got absolutely exposed in 2014
because he drived too long
he got outpreformed by his teammate for 4 straight years
if he retired 2019 he would be much more better
verstappen norris leclerc
brother, there were regulation changes also he knew very early in the year he was going to ferrari the next season, plus he got 3 wins with ferrari in 2015
he wasnt washed
undebatable
sainz and oscar is worse than hamilton?
yes
and russel?
right now yes
verstappen, norris,leclerc, sainz,piastri,hamilton
russel is fucking outperforming hamilton
r u wholey stupid or inteninally dense
like
he won at australia
keep it within the rules
and it was
leclerc would be muted💀
a fucking lucky ass win
why hamilton can't be lucky lol
sometimes drivers early primes
explains why hamilton has his ferrari seat
when their primes are over, they cant perform
he is bringing money
fernando alonsos prime was 2005
yep
he preformed for 18 years after that
more like taking money with that contract
warranted that he did take 2 yrs off
to do other sports
and then won le mans
and nearly won indy 500
but honda
trolled him again
right after hamilton sign,ferrari stock rised more than 10%
and also doesnt have much pressure rn, cuz of AM being a general midfielder due to lack of upgrades
7bn dollars
its just money
yep
yes
they made profit of 6.5 bill
sainz will win canada
heres my driver tier list
i dont think thats how that works
you are washed
not an expert on finances, but i dont think stock prices rising translates to profit
ik but
crazy
yes
but
i did financially help
alot
condolences for whoever that was then
thats a crime putting dric in the same tier as stroll ngl
Lando :
exactly
bro thinks sainz=albon
hes MILES better
only driver to beat max on pace this season
below sargeant or zhou
it went down in the months after so no
sargeant
sainz = albon? No
danny ric fans living 2018
tell me with a straight face that sargeant
is better
than lance
34-1
IN QUALI
TO ALBON
IS BETTER
r u stupid
i just said
stroll is second worst
oh
sargeant is worst
u dumb?
danny ric is similar level with stroll rn
he never outqualified Albon
i think he did one time
raw skill
stroll<dric
that's the sprint quali
while stoll cant bloody perform in an AM
ZHOU WOULD BEAT STROLL
dric doesnt have the car honestly
if you think stroll is second worst then alonso is also second worse
ye
so... 1?
yes 2023
why 2023
cuz alonso held up the other cars for stroll to overtake
well that's 4 more than what I noticed
Alonso 18-3 Stroll
Valtteri Bottas 13-9 Zhou Guanyu
so what
when finishing, stroll finished in the points more than 75% of the time
in 2023
we are talking 2024
while zhou only finished in the points 3 times
"OhH tHo ThE CaR"
he does
guys just agree stroll is badass
alonso just obliderated stroll
and stop the argument
like just look at imola
ong the tier list caused a bloody civil war
stroll cooked alonso like playing with child
@sand compass really actually loves stroll (like he genuinely loves him for a driver and not a meme)
why cherrypicking
who are you taking here @fresh pike
alonso outperformed stroll
Granted, I'd fuckin hope Alonso is beating Stroll easily
He's fucking Alonso? 😭
answer my question
i mean alonso is good
heres stroll vs magnussen
he isnt 2 time wdc for nothing
then why compare great driver and worst and crying 'oh he sucks'
@sand compass put kmag/nico in a AM and lets see who cooks
nico
kmag is a bottom 3
driver on the grid
rn
I GOT IT
they put nico in an am
in haas
well he raced with lance 4 times
he got absolutely crushed the first 2
lost in bahrain to him
and then beat him in saudi
@sand compass we get it STROLL is the undisputed goat better then 7 time world champion pewis pamilton and he destroys most of the grid BASED on true MERIT and not daddy paying bills
cringe
well
stage 3: bargaining
wow yknow whats crazy
based on that logic
schumacher sucks
0 points in a ferrari?
1997??
omg you SUCK
standings matter so MUCH
alonso just proved that when stroll is given adequate machinery he cant perform
one thing we can agree on
2018
Alonso 0 points in his rookie career.
He beat sirotkin
2021
He beat seb
2022
He beat seb
2023
Hes nearly beating alonso
💀
@sand compass
In 2024
*Season, I mean.
lance got more podiums in 10 races than hulkenberg did in his whole career
I wanna see Lance against Carlos.
also wrong
seb got p2 in 2021 in baku
and beat stroll overall both seasons
stroll didnt even get a podium w/AM
alonso wiped and slated stroll
Lance was more consistent than seb
in 2023
Lance > Hulk (acc. to Sir Lancelot) and Hulk > Sainz.
So... 
bro
Seb got 2 lucky points finishes
