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snow swan
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i had seen the 2017 one but it was behind clouds so i only slightly saw it

granite relic
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literally waiting every 2 weeks so annoying

remote knoll
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they have other series you can watch

snow swan
granite relic
snow swan
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my first race i watched was qatar 2023 and im already getting sooooooo bored of max

jade muralBOT
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Congrats @snow swan, you're now on lap 10

remote knoll
granite relic
granite relic
remote knoll
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oh i meant like wec or indycar

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feeders dont count smh

granite relic
remote knoll
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the indy 500 is next month

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you should tune in

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might surprise you

snow swan
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why is formula e so hated

remote knoll
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it's electric

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people hate electric cars with a passion

pale tusk
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and it's a street circuit gobfest

snow swan
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i like evs

remote knoll
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also it's only street circuits

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but the racing is close so

snow swan
remote knoll
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i dont see the issue

pale tusk
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and they turned paid as well which wasn't the case for the past few years

remote knoll
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they are super hard to drive so it's fun watching them on the limit

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a bunch of straight line speed with little cornering ability

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at least compared to other single seaters

snow swan
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lol

pale tusk
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they also for some reason have their version of drs i forgot what it's called, it's like super fan switch or something willmao

remote knoll
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they dont even run slicks

remote knoll
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fan boost is what you're thinking of

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they removed that a couple of seasons ago

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or something like that

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it's called uhhhh

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attack mode

pale tusk
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oh, i was watching highlights a few years ago and i noticed how ridiculous it was having a weirder version of drs lol

remote knoll
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they go off line and they get attack mode for like 2 minutes

pale tusk
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but formula e is getting a lil better with the fights but the only problem i have is that they moved to a paid service instead of livestreaming it free

remote knoll
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I'm not super into Formula E but I won't deny it has good racing

pale tusk
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and is the pit stop still the same? them jumping out of their car and hopping into another?

remote knoll
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no

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they do not stop

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anymore

pale tusk
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okay good

remote knoll
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which tbh i kinda like pitstops

pale tusk
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i watched formula e once idk when but i saw them hop out of a car and just went into another car lmao

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i found it hella funny

remote knoll
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motogp type shit

pale tusk
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motogp being secured by liberty media just dug their own grave lmao

granite relic
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all i know about formula e

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who's that angry guy

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dan ticktum

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i think

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constant anger

remote knoll
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lmao

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Dick Tantrum

granite relic
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Hahah

pale tusk
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only thing formula e i've watched is the crash compilations

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really rampant in the tight street circuits

remote knoll
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I'm addicted to crash compilations

pale tusk
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they've received a reputation for being the most careless drivers lmaoo

remote knoll
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I've watched a crash compilation for at least every series that I watch

remote knoll
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like F4 or something

pale tusk
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true

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but formula e is just crazy entertaining if they start throwing the very funny gestures at each other

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and start losing focus and crash into each other

remote knoll
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oh shit formula e is this weekend

pale tusk
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what's with the f1 esports scene btw

remote knoll
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pfft

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no clue

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not even the esport drivers themselves understand

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but it looks like a huge mess

raven wagon
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Longuet selected Medium tyres for pitstop

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Game gave him inters

remote knoll
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tf

raven wagon
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Ruined his race

pale tusk
raven wagon
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Lucas got disconnected from the race, vsc came in and fked many other drivers races

remote knoll
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and just their careless attitude towards the franchise

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they will never listen to their community

pale tusk
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they refuse to switch to another engine with f1 23

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it's just mind boggling the shit they're tryna pull off

remote knoll
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The next decent f1 game probably wont be til 2026

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someone suggested that they should only make an f1 game when the regs change

pale tusk
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it's basically a rehash, like the iphone

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different design and name, same fucking game

pale tusk
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codemasters when they say there's a "new feature"

remote knoll
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codemasters gonna add private jets in f1 2025

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meanwhile the cars are gonna handle like a gt4

pale tusk
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they're gonna make the supercars drive like you're on ice with slicks

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and best of all, more microtransactions like a 70 usd price tag wasn't enough

raven wagon
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Plus outdated tracks

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Cough cough Spa

remote knoll
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Spa is so painful to look at

compact pewter
fading hill
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tan dickcum

remote knoll
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I-

snow swan
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And Max Verstappen wins the 2024 Chinese Grand Prix with a massive gap of 42 seconds. After him Perez finishes 2nd and Charles Leclerc finishes 3rd.

whole berry
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waste of time

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its f1 2023 not assetto corsa 2023

tame plover
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Surely Daniel new chasis will fix everything

haughty mason
tired epoch
compact pewter
tired epoch
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not anymore

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it was

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these cars are very very very safe

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i would rather get in an accident in an f1 car than in a civic

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ideally there is no accident of course

compact pewter
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Also

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Spa is overrated

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And Eau Rouge is overloved

tired epoch
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you're allowed to have an opinion and i respeccct that

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but the track is on the calendar for a reason

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it provides something that another track wouldn't

compact pewter
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Well

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They added Jeddah and Miami instead of Good tracks like Nurburgring and Sepang

tired epoch
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they bring something to f1 that the nurburgring and sepang wouldn't

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even if it's just more money

stiff bough
compact pewter
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If I were Stefano, I would add Sepang, Nurburgring, Magny-Cours, Istanbul, Algarve and Kyalami. To replace Jeddah, Miami, Imola, Spa, Lusail and Vegas

echo knot
compact pewter
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f1 driver maximum 0 death per season speedrun*

echo knot
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even sepang is kinda unsafe but honestly the new F1 cars might be able to handle that

compact pewter
echo knot
compact pewter
echo knot
wanton tangle
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Wanna play a game, lets guess who is ganna be on 2nd place in the GP cause im bored

slim chasm
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it nearly bankrupted them the last time

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no one wants to buy tickets

austere pagoda
red stag
lucid hare
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@humble bridge

snow swan
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yall

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no pfp

slim chasm
red stag
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spa is good tho wdym unfortunately

slim chasm
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did I miss a good spa race?

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haven't seen one for over a decade

red stag
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idk man i enjoy them

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idk about you

slim chasm
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yeah well, many don't

red stag
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🤑

slim chasm
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also one of the worst track that I've ever had the displeasure of visiting

cyan saffron
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2021 was a great race.

compact pewter
hushed wadi
compact pewter
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2021 Spa GP was completely listed as Formula 1 Controversies

slim chasm
hushed wadi
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was

slim chasm
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I get a new one

remote knoll
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we literally lost a driver last year

compact pewter
cyan saffron
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Yeah, we lost both Anthoine and Dilano there.

arctic matrix
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When's Chinese gp

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Next weekend?

remote knoll
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yes

fading hill
cyan saffron
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I hope so.

snow swan
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"Max Verstappen wins the Chinese grand Prix"

steel arch
fading hill
fading hill
compact pewter
fading hill
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got fucked up in monaco

barren folio
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Is this track a fast track like Monza or a slow track like Monaco?

fading hill
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seems like its a bit of both

barren folio
fading hill
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there are very high speed straights and hard ahh corners

minor verge
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We going to China boys 🇨🇳

minor verge
gloomy magnet
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sa

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I’m tayfur bıngol

austere pagoda
night pewter
quaint onyx
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法拉利在比赛中会表现得非常好

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他们会做饭

sand compass
slow wagon
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No one serious wants to go back to Magny Cours

stiff bough
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and no one who has watched one race at kyalami seriously wants F1 to go there

slow wagon
teal finch
snow swan
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Lets go Communist GP racing

scarlet vortex
coarse obsidian
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The same cheap copy of the original car.

formal skiff
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Everyone crashes !!

slim chasm
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their crime ranking is just above Haiti and Afghanisran

slow wagon
slim chasm
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well tbh I don't think people expects it from Cuban rebels but eh

slow wagon
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Idt any of the drivers are based enough to warrant it but let's try em out and see!

steel arch
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did anyone see that Vettle might join mercedes for the 2025 season?

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toto hasnt said a whole lot on the matter but its a possibility

slow wagon
# slim chasm it's not

It's a possibility in the way André Lotterer coming back to humble another driver in a random one-off performance is a possibility

slim chasm
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sorry Andre

burnt relic
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Stain

cinder star
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Max Verstappen wins with 70min advantage

wet sequoia
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More like Zhou wins

zealous bison
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Fr

feral gyro
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How people see F1 champion : schumacher, vettel, rosberg, hamilton, verstappen

How i see f1 world champion :

1996 : adrian newey (williams renault)
1997 : adrian newey (williams renault)
1998 : adrian newey (mclaren mercedes)
1999 : adrian newey(mclaren mercedes)
2000 : james alisson (scuderia ferrari)
2001 : james alisson ( scuderia ferrari)
2002 : james alisson ( scuderia ferrari)
2003 : james alisson (scuderia ferrari)
2004 : james alisson ( scuderia ferrari)
2010 : adrian newey ( red bull renault)
2011 : adrian newey ( red bull renault)
2012 :adrian newey ( red bull renault)
2013: adrian newey ( red bull renault)
2014 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2015 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2016 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2017 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2018 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2019 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2020 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2021 : adrian newey ( red bull honda)
2022 : adrian newey ( red bull honda)
2023 : adrian newey ( red bull honda)

slim chasm
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my goat Bryne and Costa passed over

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also love how Alisson got 2014-2016 when he's not in Merc yet lol

feral gyro
slim chasm
cyan saffron
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Alisson is a goal keeper.willmao

slim chasm
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double L not the S

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lmao

stiff bough
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and for some reason you skipped all of 2005-2009

toxic atlas
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wikipedia warriors belike

cyan saffron
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for real

slim chasm
cyan nimbus
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fortnite?

lament thistle
south heron
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yeah James Allison wasn't TD at Merc until 2017, in 2014 it was Bob Bell and in 2015 and 2016 it was Paddy Lowe

cyan saffron
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It's not like there exist only 2 technical directors.willmao

south heron
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also 2005-06 was Pat Symonds/Bob Bell, 07 was Aldo Costa/Nikolas Tombazis, 08 was Paddy Lowe and Neil Oatley and 09 was Ross Brawn

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07 and 08 also seemed to have 2 people as the most important people responsible for the car, not just 1

fast hawk
south heron
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yeah but he left after his wife died of meningitis early on in 2016

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iirc he wasn't signed by Merc until the end of the season though

fast hawk
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yeah gardening leave

grim egret
south heron
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it's really showing atm indeed

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it's the 3rd year of the new regulations and they're not only not closer to getting back to the front but it seems they're falling further away

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no wonder Lewis left that mess

grim egret
south heron
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yeah

grim egret
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they are a p5 team

south heron
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even in 2023 they only beat Ferrari because Leclerc was the only one scoring points for them in the final 2 races

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that and if McLaren's car was that good from the start they would've probably challenged for P2 as well

grim egret
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they only on p2 in the last last minutes

south heron
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more likely they'd have been fighting for 3rd rather than 2nd but they still would've taken enough points away from Merc

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yeah

grim egret
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yes especially mclaren they have such a hot driver lineup

south heron
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that and they didn't win even once even though they had like 1-2 chances at a win

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yeah

grim egret
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cant believe they have vcarb and haas in their mirrors

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another nail is not winning alonso.

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I dont see a better driver to replace ham than alonso he brings so so much to the table

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when he had a good car he was giving ferrari and checo some sweat

south heron
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not like they even had a chance of snagging Alonso anyway

grim egret
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if toto signs a junior its so many steps backward its a not even funny

south heron
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just look at them rn

grim egret
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yeah laughable of thinking to sign max even

south heron
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I hope the Seb comeback with Merc rumors aren't true simply because as much as I love him Merc simply doesn't deserve him

grim egret
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wtf is toto talking about

south heron
grim egret
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man there are so many drivers out of a seat

south heron
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yeah at the very least I think Magnussen and Ricciardo will be out of a seat

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wouldn't rule out Bottas deciding to hang up the helmet either but I also wouldn't be surprised if he continues for a couple more years

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Sargeant is also likely out but he could still improve plus he's kinda been unlucky as well

cyan saffron
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yeah

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I really hope he can improve.

south heron
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same

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oh yeah Zhou will probably be out as well as much as I hate to say it

cyan saffron
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yeah

south heron
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I love him but I'm not sure if I can see him staying in F1 past this year

cyan saffron
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I have to agree tbh.

south heron
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like... he's been decent, but not really outstanding?

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at the same time though he hasn't been that far away from Bottas but with Alfa/Sauber being how they are who knows how good Bottas is these days

cyan saffron
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Yeah, that's kinda unknown.

south heron
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maybe we'll see that a bit better this year if Sauber learn how to do pitstops again

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Australia hurt to watch like jfc

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I think Bottas was close to or in the top 10 yet he dropped far behind when he pitted

cyan saffron
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yeah

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Zhou in Jeddah was looking quite good as well.

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Then another Sauber pit stop happened.

south heron
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oh yeah I heard

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yeah for the team that will be the Audi works team in 2 years they really aren't looking good

cyan saffron
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They really need to stop throwing wheel nuts away.

south heron
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yeah they really need to break their pitstop dyslexia

cyan saffron
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yeah

south heron
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the car actually doesn't look that bad too

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then again Alpine shitting the bed probably has given them a bit of an assist

cyan saffron
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Yeah, it's actually quite solid.

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kinda on Haas level

south heron
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kinda yeah

cyan saffron
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a bit behind though

south heron
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I'm kinda surprised as I was expecting them to have the worst car especially given how last year was

cyan saffron
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But definitely capable of points if the top 5 have some trouble.

south heron
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and the second half of 2022 too by extension as it seems they forgot how to develop their car

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yeah

slow wagon
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They always drop off a cliff from the start of a season but y'know you can't really get worse than "unable to do a pitstop at normal speeds due to part design" so we take it

cyan saffron
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The poker chips on the wheel covers show they gambled with that.willmao

south heron
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guess the Stake deal really is extensive huh

misty violet
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1 more week 😭

cyan saffron
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yeah, not even rawe ceek yet😭

narrow garnet
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it's now Rawe Ceek here

lime granite
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no race this weekend?

cyan saffron
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Depends on if it's for you still Sunday or Monday already.

raven mist
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Next weekend Sunday

ashen zenith
coarse obsidian
rancid mortar
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how

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isnt it like 12 am in texas?

fading hill
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ZHOU P1 GUYS!?!?!?!!??!??!?

fading hill
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right after school

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😏

formal skiff
stiff bough
soft lily
odd isle
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How do I watch the race for free?

tawdry harness
cyan saffron
jade muralBOT
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It's not allowed to ask for an illegal stream nor to direct someone to an illegal stream. We are a partnered server, so piracy has no place in this server. This includes discussing how to bypass geoblocks or paywalls.

scarlet vortex
austere pagoda
dapper perch
snow swan
mild mist
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Red Bull only won because of Masi?

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lolol

ripe wind
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ferrari’s 2019 engine scandal

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contributed to their 2020 woes

barren parcel
compact pewter
snow swan
fair night
fair night
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exactly what

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max only won cuz of masi 💀

cyan saffron
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It's rawe ceek!

snow swan
raven mist
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ITS RACE WEEK

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And my god the drivers presented on F1’s social media post for it…

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Yeah I may be delulu but pls Zhou Guanyu P1, Hamilton P2, and Alonso P3

echo mantle
raven mist
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Yes I am

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And I am fucking delulu as hell

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But hey, it is what it is

cedar garden
quaint onyx
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Manifesting Leclerc win

noble briar
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Not the nascar in the corner lmao

mild mist
echo igloo
fading hill
snow swan
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happy race week everyone unfortunately I am ill

woeful wolf
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(Best wishes dear)

cyan nimbus
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CUT MY LIFE IN TWO PIECES

atomic grove
tawdry current
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verstappen always wins😔

still forge
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Well, not always

somber sparrow
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dont give a fuck if i cut my arm bleeding
this is my last resort

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dadadad dididid adada daididid dadad dididi dadada

tawdry current
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I hope that in this Chinese GP Leclerc or Hamilton win

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hope is the last thing to die

atomic grove
atomic grove
tawdry eagle
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and get a good race in general

tawdry current
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Verstappen could be more humble

slow wagon
surreal charm
robust herald
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Bro without a doubt VERSTAPPEN will win

atomic grove
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Not a chance that he WON'T win. He's been doing too good

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It makes the sport a bit boring when one racer is dominating the grid.

tawdry current
robust herald
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Ikr

robust herald
atomic grove
robust herald
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He will never win a Chinese again

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💀

atomic grove
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Yeah that's fair 🤣

stray axle
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chinese gp bingo card: someone crashes in t1-3

normal drum
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Rip McLaren is all I have to say 😭🫡

safe crest
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I’m Chinese this feels targeted

dim dock
fast fable
normal drum
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The likelihood of them surviving this track isn’t looking good 😭I’d love them to win SO MUCH and I’ll stay delusional that they will but

fast fable
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I guess.

dim dock
fast fable
dim dock
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praying 😔🤞

normal drum
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Oh no absolutely hoping they do well and win but the likelihood is not in our favour 🥲

formal skiff
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rip McLaren

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forever missed

dim dock
fast fable
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Unsure of the trustworthiness of the website.

normal drum
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They deserve a break and a win 😭

velvet crater
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McLaren 😭

dim dock
icy matrix
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They’re so consistent

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Just can’t get a win

remote knoll
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At least they've started the season better

keen scarab
dim dock
narrow garnet
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the start's been incredible for our standards but fuckkk Imola can't come soon enough

compact pewter
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Is Mercedes engine weak in High Speed circuit?

sonic epoch
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Not really

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Only engine the would get cooked is renault

compact pewter
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Renault is the new honda now

celest topaz
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Yep

hallow mauve
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Did the Chinese GP get sod out?

tawny mason
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Shanghai.

You may have produced a boring race in 2019.

You may be in a country that’s terrible for human rights.

But you are an iconic track.

slim chasm
frosty knoll
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Guys what are your guesses for spring podium?

forest dock
still forge
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Gotta go with the safe

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VER-PER-SAI

warm umbra
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my guess for chinesse gp podium is 1st VER 2nd PER 3rd LEC

cyan saffron
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Max, Checo, Charles

stark frigate
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I’m feeling a papaya podium

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Lando ofc

toxic kiln
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so many people chwt this much in a big amount of time in my server of 3 people there was 160 unread messaeges in just 1h

dim dock
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VER - SAI - PER

lilac nova
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Rawe Ceek

icy matrix
icy matrix
silk oxide
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VER-LEC-SAI(checo did checo)

grizzled vector
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1- Leclerc
2-Verstappen
3-Sainz

silk oxide
barren bronze
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it’s looking rain for shanghai everyone, brace yourselves

midnight mesa
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.raweceek

kind comet
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def not first tho

buoyant lotus
forest dock
lime crypt
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i feel like ver - per - lec/sai

slate girder
narrow garnet
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models are all over the place rn

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we'll just have to wait and see

nimble panther
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Yeah

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Bet Verstappen is gonna win?

stark frigate
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So is merc then

nimble panther
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Yeah but i'm just a fan of Verstappen

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I don't think because Peréz is too fast for that

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Mostly Perez is 5-15 seconds slower than Verstappen

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i know why perez is faster than in 2023

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no, it is because the car is adjusted to Perez's driving style and not last year

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didn't know

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Yeah

stiff bough
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why... would the car be adjusted to either max's or perez's driving style?

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I feel like... you would just develop the car to be as fast as possible and let the drivers figure out the fastest way to drive the thing

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ahhh no thats too rational

cyan saffron
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for real

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The driver has to adapt to the car, not the other way round.

austere pagoda
pearl bear
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yep, the car became pointier because RBR engineers saw that would be the path to make the car faster

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more pace = more pace
after all

stark frigate
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Fair enough😭

sharp inlet
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huh

stiff bough
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Yeah I'm ngl I have no idea what you were just trying to say

tender spoke
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anyone know the forecast for this weekend? I really don't want it to rain since the race will be at 2 AM for me 😭

honest solstice
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Rains makes things better

fading hill
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i like seeing people slip away and crash into the barriers

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it makes the race more interesting

sharp inlet
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mmm, 2009 Malaysia

fading hill
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start of 2008 interlagos

sharp inlet
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2011 Canada

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Rain does make races a lot more exciting

sharp inlet
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lol

remote knoll
tender spoke
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I enjoy wet races but I'd also rather not have to stay up past 4 AM lol

fading hill
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its right after schul for me

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i live below china

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🗿

tender spoke
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Lucky

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I live in the US 😭

tender spoke
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Sleepy times

cyan saffron
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For me the race is at 9 am.

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Sprint 5 am

muted skiff
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I missed this track

remote knoll
long tangle
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Are RedBull going to be looking for a new Team Manger whilst playing the "everything is under control" card this race?

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Or has everything calmed down?

snow swan
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Yh

sonic jetty
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This track suits Alpine. They're gonna dominate.

sharp inlet
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Fucking better

sonic jetty
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Oh I don't even remember who's on my fantasy team...

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I'm playing on Grid Rival and I've got HAAS, Verstappen, Sainz, Russell, Hulkenberg, Bottas.
I don't know what I'm doing but I'm 321 of 13,930 in the league.

sharp inlet
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I have no idea what it does, I just did .rng and apparently I chose Gasly

atomic grove
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My fantasy team sucks ass. Ive got Verstappen, Piastri, Tsunoda, Ocon, and Hulkenburg with RB and Ferrari as my constructors

compact pewter
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Max, Red Bull and Ferrari in the same team

formal skiff
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lmao

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im double guessing my team but its too late now

atomic grove
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Now I’m 1.8 under my current cap

atomic grove
fading hill
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dam

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what happens in a sprint btw

cyan saffron
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yes

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shorther race without pit stops

fading hill
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oh ok

split marsh
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Who do u think is gonna win ?

fading hill
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verstapookie

split marsh
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You really think he is gonna win ??

formal skiff
split marsh
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What year he made his debut

fading hill
#

he won in 2021

split marsh
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Ok so he is good driver ye ?

fading hill
tawdry harness
split marsh
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Wut?

tawdry harness
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no im jk he debuted 2015 w/ toro rosso

raven mist
raven mist
fast fable
#

Wrong place, but anyway...

hoary goblet
snow swan
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He will probably get 19th after bottas DNFs

hoary goblet
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I hope not

snow vine
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Will the track be slippery?

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Because I’ve just seen a vid that’s said the surface is really green

remote knoll
#

i hope it is slippery

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these drivers nowadays have too much grip

remote knoll
snow vine
#

Turkey 2020 repeat 🌚

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Would go hard

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And it’s reported to be cloudy all weekend

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Also it’s a sprint weekend 💀

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1 practice session

remote knoll
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all the newer drivers probably on the sim 24/7

snow vine
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Lmao praying this weekend will be a good one

remote knoll
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we need one desperately

snow vine
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Because this one you can’t really predict because the last race there Mercedes were the quickest and it was F1’s 1000th GP

remote knoll
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imagine merc have a one off and are insanely fast at china

barren bronze
remote knoll
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i mean it was the same case for Japan

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in 2023

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wait nvm

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i forgot about 2022

narrow garnet
snow vine
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Get in

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Perez will win trust me

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Because every now and then he does well when a country has no human rights 💀

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Apart from Qatar

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That’s an outlier

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I actually find it crazy how china are so split off

granite relic
snow swan
tawdry kettle
hybrid basin
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where IS China?????

golden vale
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next to mongolia

tawdry kettle
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Dadure sandstorm

granite relic
snow swan
scarlet vortex
sharp inlet
indigo rock
#

Hoping I don't sound like an idiot but how comes Zhou Guanyu's name comes out with Zhou first and not Guanyu? Bcs everyone else its their last name first except for him

slim chasm
indigo rock
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That would make sense, I assumed it was a cultural thing but I thought F1 would diff that

slim chasm
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they did

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then they changed it prob cause Zhou requested it

dense hornet
#

mid

slim chasm
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no one build a car to match a driver's style

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not in 2024 at least lol

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it's Max that adapts

raven wagon
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So you saying what Albon said was bs?

slim chasm
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source?

stiff bough
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Yes

slim chasm
#

source?

stiff bough
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Armcahir expert manoo knows best

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damn i cant spell

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so what if I was a DTS fan

slim chasm
#

so?

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where does it says RB build the car around him

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so how do you know?

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magic balls?

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or it came straight out of your ass

raven wagon
slim chasm
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when?

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is there a quote on that?

stiff bough
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so did max

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its just that he coped better with it

slim chasm
#

Max also struggles

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what dots?

stiff bough
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the invisible ink dots

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be nice

slim chasm
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the car that Max and Red Bull complained?

stiff bough
#

I can tell, the internal struggle must be immense.

slim chasm
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no it's not lol

#

yes?

stiff bough
#

because they aren't capable of driving cars the way they need to be driven to be fast

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and thats fine

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Very few drivers are capable of doing that.

slim chasm
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I welcomes any articles that can refute it

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source?

raven wagon
slim chasm
#

where?

hoary goblet
raven wagon
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"But truthfully, the car is what it is"

slim chasm
#

yes

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how?

raven wagon
#

I suggest you read it again

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But this time very slowly

hoary goblet
slim chasm
#

so?

slim chasm
stiff bough
raven wagon
#

"The car is what it is"

still forge
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Car being built around Max discourse

again

oh boy

hoary goblet
#

I read nothing about what you are arguing about never mind

slim chasm
#

so how do you know?

stiff bough
slim chasm
#

how can I not know

raven wagon
#

If your teammate is fighting for podiums and wins while you are mired in the midfield in the same machinery, you gonna blame the car?

stiff bough
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a team stands to gain nothing if only one driver is able to drive the car to its fullest potential

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dude... I said literally like 4 minutes ago to be nice

slim chasm
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because you can't provide proof to your bs?

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so you can explain it right?

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pls by all means

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such as?

raven wagon
#

So where in "The car is what it is" suggests RBR builds the car around Max

fast fable
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What's happening?

still forge
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The results

Which result in Max being better than his teammates, in the same car

stiff bough
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so because Max is a better driver than Perez, Albon, and Gasly, that means the car is built around him

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I guess the mercedes were built around hamilton

slim chasm
#

and?

stiff bough
#

Irrelevant

slim chasm
#

2006 full time

fast fable
slim chasm
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2004 for a few races

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a break in 2013-2016

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then back again in 2018

stiff bough
#

so I go back to my comment earlier

still forge
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...and?

slim chasm
#

nope, the results proof otherwise

stiff bough
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because Verstappen is a better driver than Perez and his two previous teammates, the car is automatically around him. Not because of skill or talent, just the car

snow swan
#

hello everyone

fast fable
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Not looking close at all. willmao

still forge
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Because Perez is not on the level of Max

As Albon and Gasly were not, is that so hard to understand

slim chasm
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cause he sucks?

stiff bough
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you have a weird sense of humor

raven wagon
snow swan
#

when is race this sundae

raven wagon
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Dude had 3 4th place finishes in the 2nd half of 2018

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Plus 4 dnfs

jade muralBOT
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Congrats @snow swan, you're now on lap 5

still forge
#

Simple

It's Max

slim chasm
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Max is much better than Danny Ric

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simple

raven wagon
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Hmm explains how Danny Ric stuck it on pole for Mexico right

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Who retired due to his engine blowing up champ

still forge
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Yeah, cause Ricciardo's RB in 2018 was a glorified tickimg bomb

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8/21 DNFs

That is over 1/3 of the races lmao

slim chasm
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correct, and none of other RB drivers are

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simple

fast fable
snow swan
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who do yall think is gonna crash

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If anybody does

raven wagon
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Hmm Monaco would like to have a word

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Or China

still forge
#

Verstappen is a generational talent

Tries to refute it by claiming his teammates suffer only because Redbull build the car around Max

I genuinely cannot follow your thought train mate

stiff bough
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I don't think anyone here thinks they are bad, they are just not generational talents lmao.

slim chasm
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how? cause they beat other midfield drivers?

slim chasm
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oh no Albon beats Latifi and Sargeant, truly Max level of talent

still forge
#

Strawman argument? That literally is why people started praising Albon for his efforts again

slim chasm
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you told me to look at Albon's season lol

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I did

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source?

raven wagon
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Sounds super contradictory to what you said earlier willmao

still forge
#

And who was his teammate?

slim chasm
#

why? cause Logan struggled?

#

source?

raven wagon
#

And who drives the car?

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The drivers

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The car may be fast, but you need drivers to maximise the potential of them

slim chasm
#

source?

still forge
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Beating a rookie Sargeant, who needed 3 retirements and 2 disqualifications to score a point is just about expected and not a good comparison line to Albon in general

slim chasm
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so you don't have one?

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because he beat Logan?

still forge
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Are they

slim chasm
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how do you know it's the 8th fastest car?

still forge
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F1 literally works in this kind of context lmao

slim chasm
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maybe it's the 4th but Albon drove it instead of Alonso

snow swan
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hey uh @stiff bough someone posted someone’s straight up balls covering the sun in #ot|memes it’s the news one

still forge
#

Same as you mate

raven wagon
#

All i see in your "arguments" are pinning the blame on Albon, Gasly and Checos struggles in RBR on the car being tailored for Max

slim chasm
#

verified how?

still forge
#

So you don't think Albon scoring quite regularily and Sargeant being Sargeant handicapped Williams overall on a hunt for a possible better place?

Which would indicate that the car is faster than it seems?

slim chasm
#

how are they proven good?

raven wagon
#

Gasly is now being beat by Ocon

fast fable
#

I hate you, my phone...

snow swan
slim chasm
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the one that put Checo at P5 in 2022?

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because he beats Yuki?

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oh dear

raven wagon
#

And wheres Pierre now

slim chasm
#

what a good stick

raven wagon
#

Getting outraced by Ocon

still forge
#

If you look at their teammates, there's nothing even remotely special in there, other than Kobayashi's stint with Perez

slim chasm
#

how do you know it's the 5th fastest car? for all we know it could be the 3rd but Gasly held it back

#

so?

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yes, cause the tp driver ranking is known to be accurate

still forge
slim chasm
#

eh never

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I know as much as 90% of them regarding a driver

raven wagon
#

So explain how Pierre is getting beat by Ocon so far this season, champ

#

What, Alpine builds their car around Ocon?

still forge
#

...

#

Not quite

raven wagon
#

Oh so its a Pierre skill issue

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Skill issue

still forge
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Because Perez started binning it out of nowhere post-Miami

raven wagon
#

Not making q3 5 times in a row is nothing to be blamed on the car

slim chasm
#

They have access to the telemetry, race data, engineering data of other teams?

#

this is news to me

#

skill issue

#

also skill issue

raven wagon
#

Everybody bashed Danny Ric for being shit against Norris

slim chasm
#

source?

raven wagon
#

Nobody blamed Mclaren for favoring Lando by developing cars towards his driving style

slim chasm
#

so the car is not build around Norris?

#

so the team doesn't build their car around the driver? But it's the driver that understand and adapts to the car?

#

got it

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a 40 years old Alonso yes

#

I just quote you?

#

how do you know?

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which is?

#

and?

#

well I'm in my mid 20s so

still forge
#

Good

Explain why Sainz was neck and neck with Leclerc in 2021
Or why Ricciardo outright floored Vettel in 2014
Or why Leclerc beat Vettel in his first year at Ferrari

#

Qualifying? Points are awarded in the race

slim chasm
#

so by not being blind, Alonso is known to be fast?

#

I'm not?

#

how so?

#

I'm curious

#

and Alonso beats Ocon by the same margin

#

how so?

still forge
#

I did, Sainz and Leclerc were always close in the championship that year

slim chasm
#

and?

#

seems fine to me

#

so did Alonso but you said Ocon matched him

still forge
#

Well, ok

Who ended up ahead?

slim chasm
#

and how would you average their luck out

#

but Vettel is in the team longer

still forge
#

Ok, so?

Sainz was in a position to be close to Leclerc even if it was his first year at Ferrari, to Leclerc's 3rd

#

It ended up on his favor

slim chasm
#

he is

#

their points are close

#

so?

#

how so?

#

why are h2h more accurate

still forge
#

More podiums
5.5 more points
The driver ahead was in his first year in Ferrari

slim chasm
#

and Leclerc scored points when Sainz retired

still forge
#

To be fair, Sainz did not retire in 2021

slim chasm
#

Qatar DNS, Belgium and AD retired

still forge
#

Which is a plus to him, if not anything else

slim chasm
#

when did you said it lol

#

2021 as well

still forge
#

It's part of life, you cannot really do anything about it

slim chasm
#

and Leclerc benefitted from Sainz's misfortune

#

why?

still forge
#

Ok, why didn't he start the race?

#

Are we forgetting something here?

slim chasm
#

he got bad strategy?

#

because?

still forge
#

And why did the gearbox needed fixing?

slim chasm
#

you're saying only Leclerc has bad strategy and bad luck in general in Ferrari?

#

why is it broken?

still forge
#

If you watched the season as you say over and over, you would surely remember why it was broken in the first place

slim chasm
#

but Sainz has retirement and bad strategies?

#

yes? Leclerc fucked up

#

his fault

still forge
#

That is literally what happened

slim chasm
#

proof?

fast fable
#

My head is spinning from what's happening here... 😵‍💫

still forge
#

No fault

slim chasm
#

so what about the other races?

still forge
#

He binned it at qualifying

#

How is that no fault?

slim chasm
#

he got no fault and all the bad luck duh

#

smh haven't you used common sense

#

and?

still forge
#

Generally Leclerc ain't mainly at fault when something happens but this is just too far

slim chasm
#

because there's no issue there

still forge
#

The issue was not the gearbox

#

It was the driveshaft, if i remember correctly

slim chasm
#

no?

#

the gearbox was fine

still forge
#

Which indeed was a part that would bring no penalty if it was changed

#

But Ferrari did not check it
And there would be no need to check if Leclerc did not crash in qualifying

slim chasm
#

because they didn't have time to check everything

#

the car was in parc ferme most of the time

still forge
#

He was partly at fault for that, you cannot argue against that

#

Hungary i can give it to Stroll being Stroll
But relieving Leclerc from any fault in Monaco is a wild stretch

slim chasm
#

what point?

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is he though

#

and what is the pace gap?

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I did

still forge
#

Plus, how do we know how his race would have gone?
He could have an engine failure mid-race
He could have one of his signature Monaco moments
A puncture
Anything

kind comet
#

Comparing Sainz and Leclerc is a waste of time

#

in my eyes they both are equal

slim chasm
#

try 1 tenth

still forge
#

This is the problem about Leclerc generally

His sole line of defense falls in "if this did not happen" and "if Ferrari had done that"

It almost sounds like Alonso stans naming the tiniest point loss that made him lose 2010 and 2012

slim chasm
kind comet
still forge
#

First year at Ferrari

#

Your point is that drivers struggle on their first year against an experienced teammate in said team

slim chasm
#

well Leclerc was in the Ferrari longer so he understood the car dynamic better

still forge
#

No, and it kinda is irrelevant here

slim chasm
#

proof?

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oh cool

#

you said so

#

you clearly are

#

lmao

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sure sure

#

all of Sainz's doesn't ofc

still forge
#

You pass like that, yes
Anyways, it is irrelevant to me

#

And to this convo in general

slim chasm
#

sure buddy sure

still forge
#

Point was that 1.5 tenth difference in pace is not really "struggling" in your first year against an experienced teammate

kind comet
#

aww someoens getting salty

slim chasm
#

but you just lied lol

still forge
#

...ok wait a sec here

slim chasm
#

who?

still forge
#

Then i asked you to explain the 2021 Ferrari driver dynamic, which falls out of your statement

slim chasm
#

well I'm not

still forge
#

As did the other cases i mentioned

slim chasm
#

ofc

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the Sainz fan that spent the last hour criticizing his every move

#

sure buddy sure

#

all?

#

you sure bout that my friend?

kind comet
#

delete this while u can

slim chasm
#

you are my friend, my friend

#

not this one for example?

#

so that's not all you said?

#

uh huh sure buddy

still forge
#

To be fair now
1st half of 2022 Sainz was struggling, he picked himself up post-Silverstone

slim chasm
#

slower?

#

was that why they were 2nd in WCC?

still forge
kind comet
#

Ya'll tripping 💀

still forge
#

Mercedes was faster than Ferrari in like
2-3 tracks that year

#

...

kind comet
#

Thats irreverent in this topic

still forge
#

Mexico

#

i think that's it? Maybe i'm forgetting something

kind comet
#

Watching you guys argue is fun 🍿 unfortunately i cant join cuz i have class

raven wagon
#

COTA?

still forge
#

Oh right

slim chasm
#

yes they were last year

still forge
#

We were talking about 2022 though

#

No need to be like this man

kind comet
#

the swiftie hate goes wild here anyways

slim chasm
#

why don't you said so

still forge
#

Anyways, i would love to watch this unfold but alas, i have classes

slim chasm
#

nah don't think so

#

yes?

#

what about it

#

I didn't said that it's wrong

#

yes I can see that

raven wagon
#

I cant take your takes seriously after this willmao

slim chasm
#

I did ask that yes

#

what abt it

raven wagon
#

Proceeds to blame drivers underperforming on the car

slim chasm
#

source?

#

source?

raven wagon
#

Yet I dont see you blaming Danny Ric, Bottas and many other drivers who underperformed on the car willmao

slim chasm
#

and all the 18 other drivers has?

raven wagon
#

Im sorry, but when your teammate is fighting for podiums and wins and you are stuck fighting for P7 and midifeld positions every race, its not a car problem

slim chasm
#

Ofc, unlike you I can agree with facts

raven wagon
#

And in Albons words "The car is what it is"

slim chasm
#

but the car wasn't tailored to him?

#

do you?

#

ofc

#

I do

#

Albon said that the car wasn't build to Max's style duh

raven wagon
#

Read it again

#

Very slowly

slim chasm
#

so?

#

Albon likes a good front end too

raven wagon
#

So Max can cope with the car characteristics while Albon couldnt?

#

Gotcha

slim chasm
#

you should do it

raven wagon
#

Albon and Max like a car with good front end, but Maxs level is a "whole different level"

#

Literally Albons words

kind comet
#

@snow swan you should watch albons podcast, answers a lot of questions

slim chasm
#

Albon doesn't like uh....

#

let's see

#

front end?

raven wagon
#

And make it more specific "sharp and direct"

slim chasm
#

nah that's not it, it's clear that Red Bull makes a car that Albon didn't like

#

it ran against the Max's haters agenda gasp

raven wagon
#

I dk how you come to the conclusion that drivers underperforming in cars is cause they are tailored to the no.1 driver willmao

#

By that logic, Rubens, Bottas failure to win wdcs is cause teams developed cars for the no. 1 driver

slim chasm
#

clearly they were as good as Michael and Lewis but the car wasn't built around them

raven wagon
#

The car is built to be as fast as possible

#

Simple

#

And to be that in RBRs case, they develop it that way and Max adapted to it better than other drivers

#

And your claim about the RBR drivers doing better outside of the team is not 100% correct

#

Perez underperformed in 2013

#

Pierre is now getting beat by Ocon

slim chasm
#

@snow swan come here baby

#

why only insults at the DMs lol

#

@snow swan come come my friend

tawny mason
kind comet
#

lmfao

snow swan
#

does anyone know where i can buy tickets right now

#

to shanghai

slim chasm
#

try reseller sites

snow swan
#

sold out 2hrs after release a few months ago. site crashed the entire time

slim chasm
#

yeah that's the average F1 ticketing experience lol

snow swan
#

reselling kinda illegal in china + tickets r id verified. i am not sure if thats the same everywhere so not sure how reselling works

#

has anyone had experience with resellers. did u give reseller ur passport info + money

slim chasm
#

but people will always find a way

#

apprently you can change the ID when claiming it on circuits

snow swan
slim chasm
#

or other concerts with IDs

golden vale
#

gonna suck to be up at 2am to be able to see sprint quali

#

welp

#

the f1 site just isnt selling tickets

#

probs because they sold out about as fast as the server could process request

snow swan
slim chasm
snow swan
golden vale
#

oh

#

thats why its just straight down

#

rip

grim egret
#

is it raining in shanghai?

kind comet
#

act

#

nvm

grim egret
#

the weekend is going to be dry atleast

slate girder
#

Watch Friday

snow swan
#

the weather in shanghai is pouring rn, gonna be raining entire weekend too

#

rain + track drivers havent raced in for 4 years + one practice session

#

gonna b great

glad stirrup
#

Ferraris are red
RedBull is fast
Alpine's objective is to not finish last

grim egret