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literally waiting every 2 weeks so annoying
they have other series you can watch
the winter break feels like the great depression
fr
yeah i know, nothing hits like F1 though (the dominance is boring)
my first race i watched was qatar 2023 and im already getting sooooooo bored of max
Congrats @snow swan, you're now on lap 10
have you tried other series
Lucky you started then. Been watching since 2014 and this is the most dominant driver i've seen for long, Lewis was entertaining and sebastian was just the goat
yeah i watch F2 sometimes, and F3
oh nahh but indycar always looked interesting to watch
why is formula e so hated
and it's a street circuit gobfest
i like evs
good god
i dont see the issue
and they turned paid as well which wasn't the case for the past few years
they are super hard to drive so it's fun watching them on the limit
a bunch of straight line speed with little cornering ability
at least compared to other single seaters
lol
they also for some reason have their version of drs i forgot what it's called, it's like super fan switch or something 
they dont even run slicks
they dont have that anymore
fan boost is what you're thinking of
they removed that a couple of seasons ago
or something like that
it's called uhhhh
attack mode
oh, i was watching highlights a few years ago and i noticed how ridiculous it was having a weirder version of drs lol
they go off line and they get attack mode for like 2 minutes
but formula e is getting a lil better with the fights but the only problem i have is that they moved to a paid service instead of livestreaming it free
I'm not super into Formula E but I won't deny it has good racing
and is the pit stop still the same? them jumping out of their car and hopping into another?
okay good
which tbh i kinda like pitstops
i watched formula e once idk when but i saw them hop out of a car and just went into another car lmao
i found it hella funny
motogp type shit
motogp being secured by liberty media just dug their own grave lmao
all i know about formula e
who's that angry guy
dan ticktum
i think
constant anger
Hahah
only thing formula e i've watched is the crash compilations
really rampant in the tight street circuits
I'm addicted to crash compilations
they've received a reputation for being the most careless drivers lmaoo
I've watched a crash compilation for at least every series that I watch
I would give that to like lower categories
like F4 or something
true
but formula e is just crazy entertaining if they start throwing the very funny gestures at each other
and start losing focus and crash into each other
oh shit formula e is this weekend
what's with the f1 esports scene btw
pfft
no clue
not even the esport drivers themselves understand
but it looks like a huge mess
tf
Ruined his race
codemasters masterclass
Lucas got disconnected from the race, vsc came in and fked many other drivers races
im so tired of their incompetence
and just their careless attitude towards the franchise
they will never listen to their community
they refuse to switch to another engine with f1 23
it's just mind boggling the shit they're tryna pull off
The next decent f1 game probably wont be til 2026
someone suggested that they should only make an f1 game when the regs change
codemasters gonna add private jets in f1 2025
meanwhile the cars are gonna handle like a gt4
they're gonna make the supercars drive like you're on ice with slicks
and best of all, more microtransactions like a 70 usd price tag wasn't enough
Spa is so painful to look at
I hope they add Chicane on Eau Rouge
I-
And Max Verstappen wins the 2024 Chinese Grand Prix with a massive gap of 42 seconds. After him Perez finishes 2nd and Charles Leclerc finishes 3rd.
i just skip the pirelli hotlaps
waste of time
its f1 2023 not assetto corsa 2023
Surely Daniel new chasis will fix everything
ea*
this is real and true
what did you just say
Eau Rouge is too dangerous for Open Wheel Racing
not anymore
it was
these cars are very very very safe
i would rather get in an accident in an f1 car than in a civic
ideally there is no accident of course
Anthoine Hubert
Also
Spa is overrated
And Eau Rouge is overloved
you're allowed to have an opinion and i respeccct that
but the track is on the calendar for a reason
it provides something that another track wouldn't
Well
They added Jeddah and Miami instead of Good tracks like Nurburgring and Sepang
they bring something to f1 that the nurburgring and sepang wouldn't
even if it's just more money
If Sepang wanted back, they would be back.
If I were Stefano, I would add Sepang, Nurburgring, Magny-Cours, Istanbul, Algarve and Kyalami. To replace Jeddah, Miami, Imola, Spa, Lusail and Vegas
¨f1 driver minimum 1 death per season speedrun
f1 driver maximum 0 death per season speedrun*
like nurburgring, magny cours
even sepang is kinda unsafe but honestly the new F1 cars might be able to handle that
Jeddah is far more dangerous than Sepang
nahh not really
Mick Schumacher 22
i mean fair enough but in that case literally every street track is dangerous
Wanna play a game, lets guess who is ganna be on 2nd place in the GP cause im bored
the Sepang CEO for the last time told me that he doesn't want F1 lol
it nearly bankrupted them the last time
no one wants to buy tickets
hell no spa is not getting removed from the calendar 💀
@humble bridge
unfortunately
spa is good tho wdym unfortunately
yeah well, many don't
🤑
also one of the worst track that I've ever had the displeasure of visiting
2021 was a great race.
Great race my ass, That wasn't even a race
wasn't even a race my ass, that was a great race
2021 Spa GP was completely listed as Formula 1 Controversies
wasn't even my ass
was
I get a new one
I mean it is still too dangerous
we literally lost a driver last year
Despite it was caused by Race control. Yea
Yeah, we lost both Anthoine and Dilano there.
yes
will zhou goatyou win this gp 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
I hope so.
"Max Verstappen wins the Chinese grand Prix"
jeddah and spa are good tracks
predicting the future 😂
its true
remove vegas completely, keep spa tho its a nice torturus track
What the fuck happened to Safety first then
dk
got fucked up in monaco
Is this track a fast track like Monza or a slow track like Monaco?
seems like its a bit of both
Thanks for replying ~
there are very high speed straights and hard ahh corners
We going to China boys 🇨🇳
Probably another red flag in the first few corners of the race start
Adding Kyalami and Magny Cours to replace Qatar and Vegas is crazy
No one serious wants to go back to Magny Cours
and no one who has watched one race at kyalami seriously wants F1 to go there
I want Indycar to go there tho just for shits and giggles
On it
Lets go Communist GP racing
Then everyone gets the same car ‼️
The same cheap copy of the original car.
Everyone crashes !!
have people saw the state of South Africa rn
their crime ranking is just above Haiti and Afghanisran
Look I want a new driver kidnapping adventure
I don't think chivalry exists on South African gangs lol
well tbh I don't think people expects it from Cuban rebels but eh
Give em a chance
Idt any of the drivers are based enough to warrant it but let's try em out and see!
did anyone see that Vettle might join mercedes for the 2025 season?
toto hasnt said a whole lot on the matter but its a possibility
it's not
It's a possibility in the way André Lotterer coming back to humble another driver in a random one-off performance is a possibility
not with that pace he's not
sorry Andre
Stain
Max Verstappen wins with 70min advantage
More like Zhou wins
Fr
How people see F1 champion : schumacher, vettel, rosberg, hamilton, verstappen
How i see f1 world champion :
1996 : adrian newey (williams renault)
1997 : adrian newey (williams renault)
1998 : adrian newey (mclaren mercedes)
1999 : adrian newey(mclaren mercedes)
2000 : james alisson (scuderia ferrari)
2001 : james alisson ( scuderia ferrari)
2002 : james alisson ( scuderia ferrari)
2003 : james alisson (scuderia ferrari)
2004 : james alisson ( scuderia ferrari)
2010 : adrian newey ( red bull renault)
2011 : adrian newey ( red bull renault)
2012 :adrian newey ( red bull renault)
2013: adrian newey ( red bull renault)
2014 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2015 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2016 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2017 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2018 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2019 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2020 : james alisson ( mercedes)
2021 : adrian newey ( red bull honda)
2022 : adrian newey ( red bull honda)
2023 : adrian newey ( red bull honda)
fuck did Alisson do in the Ferrari
my goat Bryne and Costa passed over
also love how Alisson got 2014-2016 when he's not in Merc yet lol
Alisson was in ferari back then
ye as a head department
Alisson is a goal keeper.
oh damn
double L not the S
lmao
But he wasn't technical director in his first stint, also why is he in there from 2014-2016 when he didnt join Mercedes until 2017?
and for some reason you skipped all of 2005-2009
wikipedia warriors belike
for real
they kindly forgot about Bob Bell, Costa, Paddy, and Brawn again lol
fortnite?
That’s why there’s a constructor championship
yeah James Allison wasn't TD at Merc until 2017, in 2014 it was Bob Bell and in 2015 and 2016 it was Paddy Lowe
It's not like there exist only 2 technical directors.
also 2005-06 was Pat Symonds/Bob Bell, 07 was Aldo Costa/Nikolas Tombazis, 08 was Paddy Lowe and Neil Oatley and 09 was Ross Brawn
07 and 08 also seemed to have 2 people as the most important people responsible for the car, not just 1
Yeah Allison was at Ferrari before 2017
yeah but he left after his wife died of meningitis early on in 2016
iirc he wasn't signed by Merc until the end of the season though
yeah gardening leave
doesnt seem like he is a miracle man, he was just brillian with a 300milion budget
it's really showing atm indeed
it's the 3rd year of the new regulations and they're not only not closer to getting back to the front but it seems they're falling further away
no wonder Lewis left that mess
they actually never made any inroads forward, its just that the other teams ferrari AM and mclaren also were poor the first 2 years its why they were p2, but now their true colors is showing
yeah
they are a p5 team
even in 2023 they only beat Ferrari because Leclerc was the only one scoring points for them in the final 2 races
that and if McLaren's car was that good from the start they would've probably challenged for P2 as well
they only on p2 in the last last minutes
more likely they'd have been fighting for 3rd rather than 2nd but they still would've taken enough points away from Merc
yeah
yes especially mclaren they have such a hot driver lineup
that and they didn't win even once even though they had like 1-2 chances at a win
yeah
now they are in trouble ferrari is far ahead and mcalren is in front of them, they ar looking over their shoulders at AM
cant believe they have vcarb and haas in their mirrors
another nail is not winning alonso.
I dont see a better driver to replace ham than alonso he brings so so much to the table
when he had a good car he was giving ferrari and checo some sweat
not like they even had a chance of snagging Alonso anyway
if toto signs a junior its so many steps backward its a not even funny
just look at them rn
yeah laughable of thinking to sign max even
I hope the Seb comeback with Merc rumors aren't true simply because as much as I love him Merc simply doesn't deserve him
wtf is toto talking about
they might not have a choice atp
man there are so many drivers out of a seat
yeah at the very least I think Magnussen and Ricciardo will be out of a seat
wouldn't rule out Bottas deciding to hang up the helmet either but I also wouldn't be surprised if he continues for a couple more years
Sargeant is also likely out but he could still improve plus he's kinda been unlucky as well
yeah
I love him but I'm not sure if I can see him staying in F1 past this year
I have to agree tbh.
like... he's been decent, but not really outstanding?
at the same time though he hasn't been that far away from Bottas but with Alfa/Sauber being how they are who knows how good Bottas is these days
Yeah, that's kinda unknown.
maybe we'll see that a bit better this year if Sauber learn how to do pitstops again
Australia hurt to watch like jfc
I think Bottas was close to or in the top 10 yet he dropped far behind when he pitted
yeah
Zhou in Jeddah was looking quite good as well.
Then another Sauber pit stop happened.
oh yeah I heard
yeah for the team that will be the Audi works team in 2 years they really aren't looking good
They really need to stop throwing wheel nuts away.
yeah they really need to break their pitstop dyslexia
yeah
the car actually doesn't look that bad too
then again Alpine shitting the bed probably has given them a bit of an assist
kinda yeah
a bit behind though
I'm kinda surprised as I was expecting them to have the worst car especially given how last year was
But definitely capable of points if the top 5 have some trouble.
and the second half of 2022 too by extension as it seems they forgot how to develop their car
yeah
They always drop off a cliff from the start of a season but y'know you can't really get worse than "unable to do a pitstop at normal speeds due to part design" so we take it
The poker chips on the wheel covers show they gambled with that.
guess the Stake deal really is extensive huh
1 more week 😭
yeah, not even rawe ceek yet😭
it's now Rawe Ceek here
no race this weekend?
Depends on if it's for you still Sunday or Monday already.
Aw man
@lime granite Oh it’s race weekend, in about an hour, in Texas.
ZHOU P1 GUYS!?!?!?!!??!??!?
its gonna be 3 for me
right after school
😏
YESSSIR
2:25pm CST in Texas
Yo, no. It’s Yeeee-Hawwww!
None of these guys are miracle workers, but it's hard to even see if Mercedes development is good, because their correlation has been all over the place.
max will still win
How do I watch the race for free?
no, are you mad? it’ll obviously be logan 🦅🦅🦅🦅
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lets go america!! 🇺🇸🦅🦅🔥🔥 wtf is a kilometer 🗣️🗣️

🗣️ 🦅 🇺🇸 🔥
Mercedes is cooked
I mean, in 2014 Era, Other teams had 7 years to catch up yet they didn't, Ferrari might have but FIA deemed the engine illigal and Redbull only won in 2021 because of Micheal Maci.
FIA deemed the engine illegal? where is that
Red Bull only won because of Masi?
lolol
they only won bc of Latifi
Red Bull only won because of
Checo
You do not remeber fuel flow thing? And Yeah, Max is a great driver but He won the 2021 because of Maci.
red bull didnt even win the constructors championship 
Exactly
It's rawe ceek!
yep
ITS RACE WEEK
And my god the drivers presented on F1’s social media post for it…
Yeah I may be delulu but pls Zhou Guanyu P1, Hamilton P2, and Alonso P3
bro is overconfident
Forgor
Slightly inspired by @yelistener Youtube videos, check his channel out, it's really good
Manifesting Leclerc win
Not the nascar in the corner lmao
go ahead and send the article that FIA deemed Ferrari as having an illegal engine
You mad bro?
that's a bot
the lobotomy is intense
happy race week everyone unfortunately I am ill
(Best wishes dear)
CUT MY LIFE IN TWO PIECES
Cut my life into pizzas. This is my plastic fork
verstappen always wins😔
Well, not always
suffocation, no breathing
dont give a fuck if i cut my arm bleeding
this is my last resort
dadadad dididid adada daididid dadad dididi dadada
I hope that in this Chinese GP Leclerc or Hamilton win
hope is the last thing to die
Hamilton has no shot of winning
ALMOST always.
im just hoping that we get a new race winner this time
and get a good race in general
Verstappen could be more humble
It's good to have dreams ig
Yes
Bro without a doubt VERSTAPPEN will win
Not a chance that he WON'T win. He's been doing too good
It makes the sport a bit boring when one racer is dominating the grid.
Hope not
Ikr
I. Hope leclerc wins
I hope Sainz wins
Yeah that's fair 🤣
chinese gp bingo card: someone crashes in t1-3
Rip McLaren is all I have to say 😭🫡
I’m Chinese this feels targeted
huhhhh why 😭
There's some news stating McLaren will have 'issues' in Shanghai.
The likelihood of them surviving this track isn’t looking good 😭I’d love them to win SO MUCH and I’ll stay delusional that they will but
I guess.
noooo wtf 😭 official sources or rumors?
Read from X. So... Not entirely sure.
Oh no absolutely hoping they do well and win but the likelihood is not in our favour 🥲
gone but not forgotten 🕊️💔
Unsure of the trustworthiness of the website.
They deserve a break and a win 😭
McLaren 😭
yeahhh i looked it up def looks legit 😭 hopefully they do okay, and if not they’ll hopefully do well in the next track 🙏
At least they've started the season better
Real
thisss 😭
the start's been incredible for our standards but fuckkk Imola can't come soon enough
Bold to say that
Is
engine weak in High Speed circuit?
Yep
Did the Chinese GP get sod out?
Shanghai.
You may have produced a boring race in 2019.
You may be in a country that’s terrible for human rights.
But you are an iconic track.
apparently so
Guys what are your guesses for spring podium?
1st Ver 2nd Per 3rd one of the Ferrari's.
my guess for chinesse gp podium is 1st VER 2nd PER 3rd LEC
Max, Checo, Charles
so many people chwt this much in a big amount of time in my server of 3 people there was 160 unread messaeges in just 1h
VER - SAI - PER
Only speaking facts
👍
VER-LEC-SAI(checo did checo)
1- Leclerc
2-Verstappen
3-Sainz
totally not delulu
it’s looking rain for shanghai everyone, brace yourselves
.raweceek
i can see a ferrari finishing 2nd
def not first tho
Not during any session it seems just on Saturday morning wo won't really effect anything.
i feel like ver - per - lec/sai
Saturday I have doubt in unless the models start agreeing, currently more looking like Friday may be a bit wet
So is merc then
Yeah but i'm just a fan of Verstappen
I don't think because Peréz is too fast for that
Mostly Perez is 5-15 seconds slower than Verstappen
i know why perez is faster than in 2023
no, it is because the car is adjusted to Perez's driving style and not last year
didn't know
Yeah
why... would the car be adjusted to either max's or perez's driving style?
I feel like... you would just develop the car to be as fast as possible and let the drivers figure out the fastest way to drive the thing
ahhh no thats too rational
yep, the car became pointier because RBR engineers saw that would be the path to make the car faster
more pace = more pace
after all
Fair enough😭
huh
Yeah I'm ngl I have no idea what you were just trying to say
anyone know the forecast for this weekend? I really don't want it to rain since the race will be at 2 AM for me 😭
Rains makes things better
i like seeing people slip away and crash into the barriers
it makes the race more interesting
mmm, 2009 Malaysia
start of 2008 interlagos
huh
lol
sure
I enjoy wet races but I'd also rather not have to stay up past 4 AM lol
why
Sleepy times
I missed this track
just dont sleep
Are RedBull going to be looking for a new Team Manger whilst playing the "everything is under control" card this race?
Or has everything calmed down?
Yh
This track suits Alpine. They're gonna dominate.
Oh I don't even remember who's on my fantasy team...
I'm playing on Grid Rival and I've got HAAS, Verstappen, Sainz, Russell, Hulkenberg, Bottas.
I don't know what I'm doing but I'm 321 of 13,930 in the league.
I have no idea what it does, I just did .rng and apparently I chose Gasly
My fantasy team sucks ass. Ive got Verstappen, Piastri, Tsunoda, Ocon, and Hulkenburg with RB and Ferrari as my constructors
rip man
Cost Cap Breached dude
Max, Red Bull and Ferrari in the same team
My cost cap increased to 103 because of how my team was assembled. I was 0.3 below the cost cap when I made it
Now I’m 1.8 under my current cap
Also by RB I meant VCARB
wait theres a sprint this gp??
dam
what happens in a sprint btw
oh ok
Who do u think is gonna win ?
verstapookie
You really think he is gonna win ??
Sargeant ofc
Ok so he is good driver ye ?
ye
he's a rookie
Wut?
no im jk he debuted 2015 w/ toro rosso
2015 with Toro Rosso and 2016 with RBR
He’s pretty good, was on a win streak before his second Australian GP DNF ruined it
He will probably get 19th after bottas DNFs
I hope not
Will the track be slippery?
Because I’ve just seen a vid that’s said the surface is really green
i wonder if any other series have been racing there recently
Turkey 2020 repeat 🌚
Would go hard
And it’s reported to be cloudy all weekend
Also it’s a sprint weekend 💀
1 practice session
all the newer drivers probably on the sim 24/7
Lmao praying this weekend will be a good one
we need one desperately
Because this one you can’t really predict because the last race there Mercedes were the quickest and it was F1’s 1000th GP
imagine merc have a one off and are insanely fast at china
will be chaotic as fuck cause some drivers haven’t raced there, some have only once and it’s been years since it was last on the calendar and there’s only one fp session
to start off with yep because there's been nothing there for such a long time
Get in
Perez will win trust me
Because every now and then he does well when a country has no human rights 💀
Apart from Qatar
That’s an outlier
I actually find it crazy how china are so split off
sneaky feeling lewis hamilton will win ( i am deluded )
As much as I am wanting that I doubt it if it is slippery. Max is good in the rain/slippery.
If both redbulls ferrari mclaren and alonso dnf that could happen
where IS China?????
next to mongolia
Dadure sandstorm
or if everyone else doesn't have wheels

I think its in asia idrk though...
It's...not as bad as people seem to think
Hoping I don't sound like an idiot but how comes Zhou Guanyu's name comes out with Zhou first and not Guanyu? Bcs everyone else its their last name first except for him
East Asians wrote Family Name first
That would make sense, I assumed it was a cultural thing but I thought F1 would diff that
mid
no one build a car to match a driver's style
not in 2024 at least lol
it's Max that adapts
So you saying what Albon said was bs?
source?
Yes
source?
so?
where does it says RB build the car around him
so how do you know?
magic balls?
or it came straight out of your ass
the car that Max and Red Bull complained?
I can tell, the internal struggle must be immense.
because they aren't capable of driving cars the way they need to be driven to be fast
and thats fine
Very few drivers are capable of doing that.
where?
Everywhere
"But truthfully, the car is what it is"
Max himself
so?
where
could you pull up a quote of max sayin the car is built around him
"The car is what it is"
Car being built around Max discourse
again
oh boy
I read nothing about what you are arguing about never mind
so how do you know?
just the intuition and common sense duhhh
oh shit right
how can I not know
If your teammate is fighting for podiums and wins while you are mired in the midfield in the same machinery, you gonna blame the car?
a team stands to gain nothing if only one driver is able to drive the car to its fullest potential
dude... I said literally like 4 minutes ago to be nice
because you can't provide proof to your bs?
so you can explain it right?
pls by all means
such as?
So where in "The car is what it is" suggests RBR builds the car around Max
What's happening?
The results
Which result in Max being better than his teammates, in the same car
so because Max is a better driver than Perez, Albon, and Gasly, that means the car is built around him
I guess the mercedes were built around hamilton
and?
Irrelevant
2006 full time
And Russell got more skills.
shit Mercedes have been making the car around George Russell this year
so I go back to my comment earlier
...and?
nope, the results proof otherwise
because Verstappen is a better driver than Perez and his two previous teammates, the car is automatically around him. Not because of skill or talent, just the car
hello everyone
Not looking close at all. 
Because Perez is not on the level of Max
As Albon and Gasly were not, is that so hard to understand
cause he sucks?
you have a weird sense of humor
when is race this sundae
Congrats @snow swan, you're now on lap 5
Simple
It's Max
Hmm explains how Danny Ric stuck it on pole for Mexico right
Who retired due to his engine blowing up champ
Yeah, cause Ricciardo's RB in 2018 was a glorified tickimg bomb
8/21 DNFs
That is over 1/3 of the races lmao

Verstappen is a generational talent
Tries to refute it by claiming his teammates suffer only because Redbull build the car around Max
I genuinely cannot follow your thought train mate
I don't think anyone here thinks they are bad, they are just not generational talents lmao.
how? cause they beat other midfield drivers?
who I just got here
oh no Albon beats Latifi and Sargeant, truly Max level of talent
Strawman argument? That literally is why people started praising Albon for his efforts again
Sounds super contradictory to what you said earlier 
And who was his teammate?
And who drives the car?
The drivers
The car may be fast, but you need drivers to maximise the potential of them
source?
Beating a rookie Sargeant, who needed 3 retirements and 2 disqualifications to score a point is just about expected and not a good comparison line to Albon in general
Are they
how do you know it's the 8th fastest car?
F1 literally works in this kind of context lmao
maybe it's the 4th but Albon drove it instead of Alonso
hey uh @stiff bough someone posted someone’s straight up balls covering the sun in #ot|memes it’s the news one
Same as you mate
All i see in your "arguments" are pinning the blame on Albon, Gasly and Checos struggles in RBR on the car being tailored for Max
verified how?
So you don't think Albon scoring quite regularily and Sargeant being Sargeant handicapped Williams overall on a hunt for a possible better place?
Which would indicate that the car is faster than it seems?
how are they proven good?
Gasly is now being beat by Ocon
And wheres Pierre now
what a good stick
Getting outraced by Ocon
If you look at their teammates, there's nothing even remotely special in there, other than Kobayashi's stint with Perez
how do you know it's the 5th fastest car? for all we know it could be the 3rd but Gasly held it back
so?
yes, cause the tp driver ranking is known to be accurate
And him being teammates with Button in 2013
So explain how Pierre is getting beat by Ocon so far this season, champ
What, Alpine builds their car around Ocon?
Because Perez started binning it out of nowhere post-Miami
Not making q3 5 times in a row is nothing to be blamed on the car
They have access to the telemetry, race data, engineering data of other teams?
this is news to me
skill issue
also skill issue
Everybody bashed Danny Ric for being shit against Norris
source?
Nobody blamed Mclaren for favoring Lando by developing cars towards his driving style
so the car is not build around Norris?
so the team doesn't build their car around the driver? But it's the driver that understand and adapts to the car?
got it
a 40 years old Alonso yes
I just quote you?
how do you know?
which is?
and?
well I'm in my mid 20s so
Good
Explain why Sainz was neck and neck with Leclerc in 2021
Or why Ricciardo outright floored Vettel in 2014
Or why Leclerc beat Vettel in his first year at Ferrari
Qualifying? Points are awarded in the race
so by not being blind, Alonso is known to be fast?
I'm not?
how so?
I'm curious
and Alonso beats Ocon by the same margin
how so?
I did, Sainz and Leclerc were always close in the championship that year
Well, ok
Who ended up ahead?
Ok, so?
Sainz was in a position to be close to Leclerc even if it was his first year at Ferrari, to Leclerc's 3rd
It ended up on his favor
More podiums
5.5 more points
The driver ahead was in his first year in Ferrari
and Leclerc scored points when Sainz retired
To be fair, Sainz did not retire in 2021
Qatar DNS, Belgium and AD retired
Which is a plus to him, if not anything else
It's part of life, you cannot really do anything about it
And why did the gearbox needed fixing?
you're saying only Leclerc has bad strategy and bad luck in general in Ferrari?
why is it broken?
If you watched the season as you say over and over, you would surely remember why it was broken in the first place
That is literally what happened
proof?
My head is spinning from what's happening here... 😵💫
No fault
so what about the other races?
because it's Leclerc mate
he got no fault and all the bad luck duh
smh haven't you used common sense
and?
Generally Leclerc ain't mainly at fault when something happens but this is just too far
because there's no issue there
Which indeed was a part that would bring no penalty if it was changed
But Ferrari did not check it
And there would be no need to check if Leclerc did not crash in qualifying
because they didn't have time to check everything
the car was in parc ferme most of the time
He was partly at fault for that, you cannot argue against that
Hungary i can give it to Stroll being Stroll
But relieving Leclerc from any fault in Monaco is a wild stretch
Plus, how do we know how his race would have gone?
He could have an engine failure mid-race
He could have one of his signature Monaco moments
A puncture
Anything
try 1 tenth
This is the problem about Leclerc generally
His sole line of defense falls in "if this did not happen" and "if Ferrari had done that"
It almost sounds like Alonso stans naming the tiniest point loss that made him lose 2010 and 2012
if only he had eyes in 2012 Japan
"If vettel never existed Alonso would be 7 time wdc"
💀
First year at Ferrari
Your point is that drivers struggle on their first year against an experienced teammate in said team
well Leclerc was in the Ferrari longer so he understood the car dynamic better
No, and it kinda is irrelevant here
proof?
oh cool
you said so
you clearly are
lmao
sure sure
all of Sainz's doesn't ofc
You pass like that, yes
Anyways, it is irrelevant to me
And to this convo in general
sure buddy sure
Point was that 1.5 tenth difference in pace is not really "struggling" in your first year against an experienced teammate
aww someoens getting salty
but you just lied lol
...ok wait a sec here
who?
Then i asked you to explain the 2021 Ferrari driver dynamic, which falls out of your statement
well I'm not
As did the other cases i mentioned
ofc
the Sainz fan that spent the last hour criticizing his every move
sure buddy sure
all?
you sure bout that my friend?
delete this while u can
you are my friend, my friend
not this one for example?
so that's not all you said?
uh huh sure buddy
To be fair now
1st half of 2022 Sainz was struggling, he picked himself up post-Silverstone
2022
Ya'll tripping 💀
Thats irreverent in this topic
Watching you guys argue is fun 🍿 unfortunately i cant join cuz i have class
COTA?
Oh right
yes they were last year
the swiftie hate goes wild here anyways
why don't you said so
Anyways, i would love to watch this unfold but alas, i have classes
nah don't think so
yes?
what about it
I didn't said that it's wrong
yes I can see that
I cant take your takes seriously after this 
Proceeds to blame drivers underperforming on the car
Yet I dont see you blaming Danny Ric, Bottas and many other drivers who underperformed on the car 
and all the 18 other drivers has?
Im sorry, but when your teammate is fighting for podiums and wins and you are stuck fighting for P7 and midifeld positions every race, its not a car problem
Ofc, unlike you I can agree with facts
And in Albons words "The car is what it is"
but the car wasn't tailored to him?
do you?
ofc
I do
Albon said that the car wasn't build to Max's style duh
you should do it
Albon and Max like a car with good front end, but Maxs level is a "whole different level"
Literally Albons words
no mate, it's clearly the car
@snow swan you should watch albons podcast, answers a lot of questions
And make it more specific "sharp and direct"
nah that's not it, it's clear that Red Bull makes a car that Albon didn't like
it ran against the Max's haters agenda gasp
I dk how you come to the conclusion that drivers underperforming in cars is cause they are tailored to the no.1 driver 
By that logic, Rubens, Bottas failure to win wdcs is cause teams developed cars for the no. 1 driver
ofc they are
clearly they were as good as Michael and Lewis but the car wasn't built around them
The car is built to be as fast as possible
Simple
And to be that in RBRs case, they develop it that way and Max adapted to it better than other drivers
And your claim about the RBR drivers doing better outside of the team is not 100% correct
Perez underperformed in 2013
Pierre is now getting beat by Ocon
@snow swan come here baby
why only insults at the DMs lol
@snow swan come come my friend
My man just got exposed
lmfao
F1 experiences listed it as sold out
try reseller sites
sold out 2hrs after release a few months ago. site crashed the entire time
yeah that's the average F1 ticketing experience lol
reselling kinda illegal in china + tickets r id verified. i am not sure if thats the same everywhere so not sure how reselling works
has anyone had experience with resellers. did u give reseller ur passport info + money
yeah that's common
but people will always find a way
apprently you can change the ID when claiming it on circuits
i see, thanks a lot
well at least that's what I did sometimes at Singapore lol
or other concerts with IDs
gonna suck to be up at 2am to be able to see sprint quali
welp
the f1 site just isnt selling tickets
probs because they sold out about as fast as the server could process request
i will see. this is my first time watching live. excited china finally returned
just don't be scammed by resellers
all the resellers crashed the site n r selling for 5 times the price
is it raining in shanghai?
the weekend is going to be dry atleast
the weather in shanghai is pouring rn, gonna be raining entire weekend too
rain + track drivers havent raced in for 4 years + one practice session
gonna b great
Gonna be fun
Ferraris are red
RedBull is fast
Alpine's objective is to not finish last
perfect formula for logan

now
