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sometimes
sure unless you don't like having your BMW in for yet another warranty repair
What im saying is that the father company is not Australian so the subsidiary company even though founded and has its own headquarters in Australia, if it was bought by an American company it becomes American. All decisions including designs etc has to go through the General Motors board before going through. This includes new car productions, new factories, new shops etc
BMW Mercedes Porsche Audi
it's just not hands down though is it
again by your logic, Jaguar is Indian, Volvo is Chinese, Lamborghini is German and parts of Dodge and RAM are French and Italian
obviously German cars are good, but it's not like they're the only good option lmao
im pretty sure most holden desginers were Australian
Jaguar is Indian…
If Holden was an independent Australian company it would be a different story
Michael Simcoe being the most notable
Yet they have to be approved by Americans
Yes youre correct
Michael Simcoe made the vt monaro concept
so most native car companies are a pack of lies basically?
parent company control over each of these brands varies wildly…
im pretty sure michael was the head of design
fair
Expect for Ferrari
its their money
There true Italian
If they’re bought by a father company of another nation yes. Nation of origin and official nation of business is different
not all subsidiaries should always have their way
not always though
Most of the times
like Rolls Royce is very much still a British led company, for example
not really
I really doubt Ocon and Gasly will want to stay at Alpine
it uses German tech, but it's not a German company
if you want to be pedantic, Chrysler merged with Fiat in 2014 while Fiat still had shares in Ferrari
Yes because it is managed by a British maker
same
so for a brief while Enzo's nightmare came true
They don't want.
like Holden was Australian
according to the logic in here
Holden made Australian market cars in Australia for Australians
Importer and father company is very different
Even though there owned by BMW
i just don't understand what the benefit of pretending like all subsidiaries are run the same is…?
It’s owned by GM which is American. Holdens country of origin is australia but the official country of business would be USA
Origin means first mate
Where the cars are designed and built should be where it’s from
Exactly, youre getting it now
you said "it's", i was correcting that
Holden was owned by GM
it doesn't exist anymore
Wdym
read the next two lines first
so the testing of the cars, feedback from the drivers and sales were done in America?
and production of the cars of course
…no darling, i'm pretty sure this undermines your point lmao
What you listed are very different from the decision making and management
and of course the fact that any holden that was sold in the US had to be imported and rebadged, not made in the US
GM literally killed Holden because their cars were too specifically Australian market
Factory and enterprise is important but management is still key
wdym management?
Like i said before with Volvo
Holden was managed by GM
Holden's management was in Australia, not the States, just like Volvo's is in Sweden, not China
Owned and managed
Yep they’re managed by the gm branch in Australia for Holden
*they were
Holden isnt managed by Holden mate. Thats not how subsidiary’s and branch brands work
It's not like teams are lining up wanting to get them lol
Mate correcting my tense serves no purpose lol
you just said the GM branch in Australia is what managed Holden
what you have tried to argue is where the management is based is what country it is from
it doesn't exactly help your point that you can't even seem to remember if they still exist or not though
thats their headquarters
if the management is managing the company in Australia for a car to be produced and sold in Australia
^ which they were
at that point it's not really American even if the people owning said branch are American
Exactly gm isnt Holden. It’s the father company
that's our point
they still get a cut of their earnings
Yep,a US company manages an Australian company that manufactures Australian cars. Since the US has to much competition management is the only way for motor companies to earn extra revenue. I manage your company in return i get X percentage of youre revenue
That is not correct
your point is this somehow makes said product American
Thats exactly how it works
GM does not 'manage' Holden, they own them
that's like me saying a Scion or Acura is japanese
or did
even though they weren't built in Japan, they aren't sold in Japan and aren't marketed as being from Japan
Foreign subsidiaries almost always have a signifiant degree of control over what they do. However, that amount of control varies from company to company.
it's just the fact that Toyota and Honda own those branches of their company to sell in a particular market
holden brought back the discontinued gm engine ls9 V8 to be sold in the hsv cars
“I manage your enterprise and supply you with funding. In return i want X amount of your yearly revenue.” Basically what im trying to say in a nutshell
well, it's not the same at all actually…
It's more like the Toyota Trucks that are designed in the US for the US market and made in the US
holden could have asked for any engine or any component from gm
which is not how ownership works
yes that's what GM saw in Holden
that's called investing and is completely different lol
a slice into the revenue of the Australian Market because Gm was failing to break into it
that does not suddenly mean holden stopped being Australian
GM didn't take 'X' amount of their revenue, they got all of their revenue because Holden was part of GM
because at that point if you're going to try to claim ownership of everything holden, you might as well just turn it into an actual GM brand
which is basically what they tried to do, and then gave up and just sold other GM brands there instead
They invest in the company. But they also keep a percentage of the company as part of the deal. Thats what the term “branch and father company” comes from. You sell parts of your company to a larger one in return for funding. Yes GM took “x” amount of revenue. They talk in percentages
subsidiary and parent, but sure
which still didn't work because funny enough when you kill off an Australian brand, people don't want to buy your imported replacement
the thing is it wasn't part of the company, it was all of the company
Same thing mate. I dont see what you gain from correcting me?
especially for an inflated price
no one in Australia is paying over 170k for a Corvette
Hey if apple kills Samsung and introduces and subsidiary apple brand people would still buy
well in this case, I was hoping you'd appreciate the correction because it helped you learn the correct terms in English 😅
people are just going to buy Porsche's and Mercs
youd be surprised
no they wouldn't
Samsung as a brand brings market value
Android is what pulls people away from Apple
Father company is the same as parent company. Difference comes down to how you’re taught
Congrats @cunning tulip, you're now on lap 5
if Apple killed off Samsung and replaced it with their own version, people would just flock to Google or any other company willing to take it's place
because it being a samsung isn't what made Samsung stand out from Apple
it was Android and everything it did differently
yeah, for example if you were taught in English, it's 'parent company'
Cheaper apple lmao. I dont get why people buy Samsung and flex their s24 ultras. It’s so much more expensive compared to the iPhone 15 pro max. You’re telling me you really need a 100 times zoom on your phone? No thanks lol
hence why no one really buys Camaros and Corvettes in Australia
they really should've sold Holden with Vauxhall and Opel
but everyone bought a Commodore with a Corvette V8 engine in it
Sorry mate wasn’t taught in an English speaking country
I know, that's why I was politely informing you
again Samsung isn't what attracts most people or the price
I thought you were direct translating so I let you know the correct terms 😅
it's because the Android system does a lot of things better than IOS does
we had our own camaro for a while
without scalping you with a designer phone
Oh here’s another thing. Apple resell values are much higher compared to Samsung or any other phone brand
because it's a designer piece
it's like if i sold a pair of Ray Bans compared to a $20 pair of aviators
^
well… not entirely
because we see having an apple product as a status symbol, because having an Android must mean you can't afford one or you prefer an inferior system
Apple's used prices don't just stay high because of fashion, because the difference between them and the competition also is also in function
when it's been proven multiple times apple prefers their profit margins over innovation and change
like any company
you think Samsung and Google and OnePlus and whoever else don't do the exact same thing?
Given than it took European law changes to force Apple to adopt a uniform system that was superior to their own than Android devices had been using for years?
what happened to all of the 'flagship killer' brands that now sell phones that cost well over a grand? lmao
Still im not buying an android that costs 1800aud compared to apples 1100 aud. I’m not paying an extra 700 bucks for useless upgraded features im never going to use. Seems cool on the ads and seems cool for the producer. But as a consumer, think to yourself, are you really going to use those features and opt to spend an extra 700 dollars? Also in MY OPINION i think apple is easier to use
anyone who pays over a grand for a phone is stupid
doesn't matter if it's Apple or Samsung
these appeal to the same people who replace their phone every year when a new model comes out
Too bad most android and apple phones are over 1k now
because these people keep coming back for more
well, it's less stupid if it's Apple because when you sell the iPhone in two years you'll get far more back
yes because it's an Apple product
if you wanna say it's still stupid, fine, but that is a real difference
if i sold a Macbook versus a regular windows laptop
i'm going to get more money for the Macbook
yes, it's a positive of buying their phone instead of someone else's lmao, it's a selling point
I can trade my iPhone 13 Pro Max in for a new 15 pro max right now. (Since its in perfect condition i can get up to a 700 dollar discount)
people often factor in 'how much this brand depreciates' when buying like a car
why would it be different when you're buying a phone?
yes, the brand
if anything it's exactly like buying a used car
a particular brand will sell more regardless of it's condition
yes, which makes that a selling point of buying it in the first place…
because you'll lose less money on it
that was my entire point
Trade in values and resell values of iPhones are just so much more high compared to androids. Every time i switch a new phone, i can save so much money. No matter how much you hate apple, you have to admit getting a brand new apple iPhone for 400 bucks is a sweet deal
but that isn't true
or at least isn't entirely true
it's part of the appeal but it's not the only appeal by any stretch of the imagination lmao
it's certainly not the most important one
I buy apple because i find it easier to use lol. If Samsung can design a subjectively better system than IOS then ill consider buying it
well the fact Apple has had to run with it's tail between its legs and slowly change things to have the exact same things as Android devices have, and every single legal issue they've come across whether that be locking out older phones from new IOS updates, or enforcing proprietary equipment that is incompatible with other systems, or even the petty act of changing the text colour on your phone to show if someone is using an Iphone or Android
Samsung is one of the android systems
it just happens to have the appeal of not being apple
No not really, you think apple would’ve changed their charging port if not for the EU regulation
plus the software updates, the customer support, the better designed and optimised apps, the cameras, iMessage, AirDrop, the fact it's way easier to find a nice case, the fact you can get the screen replaced either by Apple, or by any third party store because it's more popular, the fact it holds its value, etc etc
it's not just the brand, or should i say, the brand is appealing because of all of the other things…
yeah i do actually, eventually
i think that tide was turning internally from what i've heard come out over the years
would've been a couple more years, but it would've happened for sure
yes eventually when they were forced to
they were forced to regardless because of the new laws
it was an 'e-waste' argument internally
they just had to do it earlier than they liked
they didn't want to turn all of the cables into e-waste
Ik Samsung is android. I find it harder to use android all together. It’s not the appeal that i use apple. It is just objectively better in terms of money saving
i don't plan on using my phone as a money saving tool
They wouldn’t have changed it because “they want to copy android”. They would’ve done it to please the public
i use it until it physically cannot run anymore and would be more expensive to repair over replacing
because the idea of swapping systems so you can just upgrade to a new model and save money is ridiculous
i don't think they care about the public, i think the people inside apple think usb-c is better and it would've won out because of that eventually
it was just a functionality improvement vs impact on environment calculation and they didn't factor in… regulatory compliance which bit them
yes because that's why they do smart things like locking out older phones from updates and changing small things like the charging port or the headphone jack on newer phones
to please the public
…??
Really? Didnt you say anyone who spends 1k or above on phones are stupid? With trade in and refurbish options given to you by apple, you can get a brand new phone for less than 700 dollars. (Much better in price compared to any high end android that doesn’t run like shit)
and why would i want to trade it in in the first place
why so i can have a newer camera?
firstly, most android phones barely get one major update, no one in the Industry is even in Apple's fucking ballpark when it comes to updates
secondly, every android manu ditched the headphone jack within 3 years of Apple too
so what kind of argument is that lmao
Youre changing phones maybe because the old one is running slow? Thats a problem for all phones mate
did i not just say i would replace it when it becomes too expensive to run anymore?
i'm not going to just replace my devices because i don't like it anymore and it runs a bit slow
People only care about iPhones 'being locked out of software updates' or their 'batteries dying all the time' because iPhones are naturally in use much longer than Android phones…
i replace it when there is no physical way i can use the phone as a phone
Exactly. To replace youre old one youre gonna need to buy a new one correct? So you can give your new one to apple so your new one gets heavily discounted!
Oh
Goddamn
and i'm still going to pay what 700-800 for a new phone?
You’re losing money by that point
so i can get what exactly?
Nah trade in every 4 years guarantees atleast 500 bucks
if i want a good camera i would invest in a DSLR
i have a computer if i wanted a stupid amount of storage
i do not need a supercomputer in my pocket everywhere flooding me with information every 10 seconds
because then all i would become is a slave staring at a phone all day
No? Your phone would break by the 6 year mark. Would you rather spend 600 bucks every 4 years or 1000 bucks every 6 years
why so i can save a bit of money replacing something i don't need to replace
Yep
You’re saving money
Keyword saving
Who cares if you could still use it for 2 years
If you can save money
Save
i have enough money as it is
Thats not a good mindset mate
i don't need to be worrying even more about how i could keep saving by replacing everything ever
$400 over the span of 2 years
you want to put that in the grand scheme of cars and housing and general living
where things are in the hundreds of thousands
that is not even remotely the point
i do not need to be worrying about something so trivial in 6 years times
But it in your savings. Needs is another story. That money could be used in wants. Like re investing into your phone. You saved 400? Good on you next phone you buy wont be as expensive because you bought it with the money you saved
why would i even need to buy a phone worth over a grand anyway
okay i trade my phone in, why am i buying a phone worth more than the original phone i bought?
Are you okay? Objectively speaking the trade in and also refurbish options are so much better compared to androids
i could save even more not buying the most expensive phone possible and trading it while still paying a lot of money
Because you would trade in your old phone by then and receive cash back instead?
Wow....
I go F1 General, there's Oscar Piastri.
I come here, I meet Oshkosh Pastry.
If I go Chill Chat, there's another variant waiting for me?
we're everywhere today
so why wouldn't i go for a better option instead
OP81 omnipresent for the day.
rather than aim for a phone worth over $1500 and try trading it in to lower the price
go for a phone just as good for less that gives me everything i need and i get even more back
you don't need the newest flashiest thing in the world to get by day to day
Bro has no idea what he is talking about pretty much every android phones get at least 4 years of major android updated and like 6 years of security updates.
ah yes getting it back for a fraction of it
That's either very very recently true, or isn't true at all
it's been true for ages
Example: you have a iPhone 12 Pro Max, you trade in for the 15 pro max. You save 600 dollars. Once the iPhone 19 comes along you trade in your 15 pro max and you save another 600 dollars. You could use that saved up 600 dollars from your old trade in and replace for a new one. Then it loops again and again
1000 actually
again why do i need a 15 Pro Max again?
Just an example mate can you read?
i made my point before
well it's recent but not that much recently
3-4 years?
i don't need something that advanced or expensive to get a fraction back of what i originally paid for it
But you save more money this way. You save money and pay for it again with the money you saved. It’s a constant loop
yeah, i'm sure the bigger the brand the more likely it is to happen
but yeah when i was buying android phones it was rare to get 2 years, and not uncommon to get 1 while iPhones got 4-5 years
that's feature, not security updates to be clear
Been like that since 2020 and the you said that most android phones only get 1 major updated that was only case with some shitty chinse phones. And also the Google Pixel 8 and newer will get 7 years of major updates which in unheard off. in the phone industry.
I dont know what Oshkosh is on about. You can trade in your phone and save money I dont know how that isnt a good deal lmao
i save more money not going for the more expensive option
no i get exactly what your point is
but you're not selling it very well
It’s not though? You trade in your phone so the price of the new phone is only around 400 dollars. (Heavily discounted)
because you're offering me something i don't need while only getting back a fraction of what i originally paid
ah yeah i switched to iPhone in 2019 so that makes sense, mb
You get over 50 percent what you payed for back
yeah they start to take that seriously, even the chinese brands. I saw the budget Xiaomi lineup (i.e 13T) last year got it
and what if i don't go with the newest model and go for something cheaper
yeah my last Android phone, the Mi Mix 2 got like two at most I think
but then again it wasn't 'technically' sold here
Thats what im saying, that’s your subjective opinion. I’m just saying the trade in offer is just objectively better
Chat just went silent
you aren't getting what i'm saying
Sounds expensive i paid 400€ for my Pixel 7 Pro which is pretty much on pair with iPhone 14pro/15pro in most use cases and those phones where 1000€+ at that point.
400 euros? Thats a lot. I’m speaking in AUD
i trade it in and get money back. Rather than only get 400 back and go for the newest most advanced model, i simply replace the old phone with a newer model that is cheaper and still does everything i need
15 pro maxs are 1100 aud here so i dont know what youre on
therefore i'm not still having to spend as much to get back what i already paid
i'm still having to pay for what i traded in
i pay less for it, i save more
no mate i think you misunderstood me. You trade in your old phone whilst buying a new phone. You get a heavy discount of 4-600 dollars on your new phone. It doesnt have to be the newest phone. Hence it’s objectively better because im getting that discount
You are not wrong but android has become much better in recent times. Basically every since Google started to offer 4 years of major updates on their phones and i think that was back in like 2019. Which forced the other brands to do the same to be able to compete.
if you're saying it's a flat fee that is a horrible reason to switch to apple
yeah and to be clear… they wouldn't have done that if Apple wasn't doing it and they saw it as an important thing to compete on
I said when i bought my Pixel 7 pro and that was back in November. And also the 15 Pro is 1300€ where i live.
but Google dogfooding their own OS has been good, I'm glad they've started doing it again
the Google made phone I owned, the Moto G was great
easily the best Android phone i ever owned
No? You have a phone. You can trade it in whilst youre buying your new phone. Basically, you buy a phone, but you give your old phone to apple. In return they will give you a 400-600 dollar discount based on the condition of your phone. You dont have to buy the newest model iPhone to get the discount it can be any phone. You also have the option to not buy anything and just trade in the phone
Damn that’s some crazy apple prices
my Lenovo made Moto G3 though was a piece of trash
that was my entire point
you didn't make it clear enough though
because everyone does that
not just Apple
Google, Samsung, even the smaller companies have been doing it for years
I’m just saying apple has a HIGHER trade in value
Same as apple mate
Got rickrolled by this watermark in another server
and why would it matter if i don't have a Apple phone
i would have to pay more for the apple phone to begin with
i would save money not getting an Iphone
well only if you're buying new or top of the line
and only if you're buying outright
I never said it mattered to you. Ive been saying the whole time it is OBJECTIVELY better. I dont think you understand what objectively means
@forest dock here’s the apple prices here
Much cheaper compared to where you live lol
it's an off weekend
Apple pricing is just ridiculously that's why i have bought an iPhone again since the iPhone 5 yeah they make great phones but they are not worth twice as much as Android with similar specs. And also with how good the Google Pixel series become i think i will never switch back to iphone.
i don't enforce off topic when there's no race week or news
okay so it's just worse ot gen? nw
only on off weekends
10-4
if news comes out i try to keep things in order
Apple's trade in program only works with their products
With the trade in offer apple is the same if not cheaper compared to the google pixel
therefore objectivly it only works and benefits those who use apple products
Yep, that’s why it is objectively better
when the set price of a Iphone is already more expensive than what Google or Samsung offers
it is not better
yes i don't get as much money back buying a $800 Pixel
i'm also not getting as much money back after i've bought a $1100 Iphone
1300€ for the regular 15 pro 1600€ for the Max version in Sweden 💸
because there is already a net loss
Thats my whole argument mate, statistically speaking it is better. I dont care if it doesnt work with other brands. You cant trade in a google pixel phone for a new Samsung phone. It just doesn’t work that way. The best you can do is trade in your phone for cash and buy a new phone with that
Obviously you can't do that there's different brands
which was my entire point
it only works for Apple
Just to make compression what does the Pixel 8 Pro cost in equal as good as the Iphone in most use cases and even takes better pictures the 15 pro max.
the difference with Android is you have the option of brands
Apple is the only one to use IOS
But the best trade in price for the pixel in 200 dollars. Meaning the pixel at the very most can get discounted to 600 bucks. Apple can match that with their far better trade in price
? i paid 400€ for my Pixel 7 Pro without any trade in and you said that would need to pay 600€ on top of the phone you trade in how is that cheaper ?
in which you pay more for phones and everything else they sold you
Yeah you are right but right now i would say Google pixel series is the best android experience you can get and they great value also.
I can trade in my 12 pro max for a brand new 15 pro max for cheap
I’m taking in Australian currency not euros
https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/1777610508562010166 this doesn't look good at all for anyone
f1 tryna kill itself o wot
#F1 teams discovered some alarming characteristics of the 2026 cars in early simulator running. It's prompted a change of plan with active aero as efforts continue to finalise the rules.
#F1
Yet i only need to pay 487 euros for a new iPhone 15 pro max with trade in
isn't 12 pro max is valued like 300 bucks ish
Yep
Well yeah but with 12 pro max as trade wasen't that phone like 1000€ new ?
1100-300=800 aud
800aud=487 euros
Look at what i wrote
there is no world that a 15 pro max is 1100 AUD lol
Bro on website it legit says
Check that out
If i take a bit of a bother a trade in with apple couriers i can save 800 bucks
that's USD
No i chose the max option. They just write it like that
I don't think you get the point a i paid 400€ with no trade in you are paying 487€ with a trade in. And i sold my previous galaxy S21 for around 250€ so the upgrade for me only cost me 150€. And the S21 was originally bought for 400€
I’m on Australian website mate
YES IM ON AUD
Ok mate what ever you say. Because i bought a 15 pro max yesterday for 800 aud lol
uh huh
If you want my com bank receipt your more than welcome to open your dms
they couldve bought it second hand 🤷♀️
Nah trade in
prob
for a 12 pro max? lmao no
My money, i saved money i dont need you to believe lmao.
shitt
so you pay 800 bucks for the new one?
Yep
I can buy the top of the line pixel for that lol
Lol
i mean they bought the top of the line iphone for that so 🤷♀️
ah yes f1
well not quite, it's the value if you trade in the most expensive 12 pro max to the cheapest 15 pro max
true
which team do you support? 🤔
for what?
idk
u r a sauber fan now
Bottas??
Why tho
Just wanting to know why
Not saying he’s bad
Bro who doesn’t like Bottas.
His Bot
WOOOOO BUTT ASS!
he’s king
Super max max
mad max
Hey
mentally sane max
Bottas is the goat
.sessions
I hope he leaves redbull for formula e
He isn't
goat is goat
latifi my hero
guy straight has beaten up lewis hamilton
irll?
in abu dhabi by crashing lap 53
no no not latifi
loGOAT sargent is where it’s at
Amerima🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅
amerima
amerima
merima
china gp next right
Yea
Yee
Unless they cancel it last minute 💀
aight time to cop some tickets innit
damn
I doubt it'll happen this late tho
F1 Driver Shocked by Aussie Supercar Power!
Token Aussie, Valtteri Bottas recently jumped in for a few laps behind the wheel of my mate Brad's recent acquisition (the 2016 Tekno Bathurst 1000 winner) at the Adelaide Motorsport Festival. He soon realised that these cars aren't to be messed with!
Meanwhile Craig Lowndes was loving it in Peter’s ...
Anyone watch RPM
me
Of course
He funny tho
Im glad that tsunoda got p10 in japan which is his home gp
Im proud
He really needed that point.
Ofc it’s bottas too
He’s pretty much an Aussie
he's one for the culture, for sure
cuz he s him
5 second penalty for Ocon.
why ??
Only Number 1
The nerve!
WILL ZHOU GUANYOU TAKE POLE THIS CHINESE GRAND PRIX
🥶
he stopped the dominance of merc
F2-F4?
f1 esport
jarno washed
Whoever wins the F1 unlocked miami ticket, good job
I’m hearing you out
that’s my theory
good theory
Boring ass race tho
(Miami 23)
Hear me out they just kissed not switching seats ok
Oh boy oh boy... where do I even begin? Max, my love, my pookie bear, my idol. From the moment I witnessed your fearless driving style, I knew you were destined for greatness. The way you fearlessly tackle every corner, pushing the limits with your aggressive yet precise maneuvers, it's nothing short of awe-inspiring. Your passion for racing is palpable, and it ignites a fire within me like no other. You've faced challenges along the way, your rough upbringing, the slow and unreliable cars, but your determination and resilience have always shone through.
Whether it's fighting for position on the track or standing up for what you believe in off it, you embody the spirit of a true champion. As I watch you carve your path to victory, my heart swells with pride. Every win, every podium, it's a testament to your skill, dedication, and unwavering spirit. And when setbacks occur, you rise stronger and more determined than ever before. I remember the joy I felt when you clinched your first Grand Prix victory at Barcelona, a joyful moment etched in my memory forever. When you defeated Lewis Hamilton at the last lap in Abu Dhabi, I cried of joy, seeing my little pookie bear becoming World Champion. The pride I feel watching you represent your team and your country on the world stage is immeasurable. But it's not just your prowess on the track that captivates me. Your humility, your kindness, your genuine love for the sport and its fans - it's what sets you apart as not just a remarkable driver, but a remarkable human being. As the years pass and you continue to write your legacy in motorsport history, know that you have a steadfast supporter in me. I'll be cheering you on every step of the way, through the highs and the lows, because your journey is one that inspires and uplifts me in ways I can't fully express.
Max Verstappen, my love, you are more than just a racing driver - you are a symbol of passion, perseverance, and the relentless pursuit of excellence.
Yo this might actually be alpine's/Renault's worst season ever in F1
eh i have seen better teams do worse than that
williams absolutely fell post 2017 onwards with a non point season as well
I’ve seen worse.
And this is definitely one of those times.
I just think it's funny
How they were talking big not long ago, and look at them now
Dead last
I don't know how Alpine on its own could get much worse than themselves back in 2016.
They had an excuse back in 2016 at least, one where they inherited an underfunded car development program that wasn't their own.
self destruction
Atp yeah, Alpine is destroying themselves from within
Seeing as how almost half of their staff just resigned because the car is such a tractor
the french are frenching
alpine versus red bull is like a paraplegic vs usain bolt
gearbox issue
when you're at the bottom, there's nowhere you can go but up
In Alpine's case is selling the team
AND LETTING ANDRETTI IN
With the rumours that are starting to pop up
LETS FUCKING GO
Yoooo
His gearbox went haywire
Ricciardo and Albon also got DNF’d
imagine yuki gets another points finish
not as delusional of a thing to happen since its been resurfaced and not been there in 4 years
i need the andretti buyout of alpine to happen
I NEED IT 😭
its the only way
Assuming Andretti buys them.
which how likely is that
what.
You can also go six feet under
🤫🧏♀️
has to outbid other interested parties
they're gonna need every money they got on that
a shame they bought a new factory and extended their current then
damn shame lol
mfs broke af now
otoh, maybe if GM wants to go French
let's be real, they're not gonna make it to F1 as an American engine outfit lol
and they plan to join f2 and f3
bro thinks they are Prema
mfs cant even win in the spec series they're already in
yeah they are stacking everything lol
well that one at least is self funded mostly
ish
I feel like it's gonna end up that they bit off more than they can chew and aren't gonna stick around for long if they do come
gonna depends on 1001 and Guggenheim's willingness at this stage
they're the real money behind this project
Well who will win Chinese gp
verstappen as usual :/ (probably im new to f1)
Well I also think max but can't say for sure
Max
When's the next race?
idk
check pinned
If andretti had 1bil+ to spend on a team they would've already done it
He will receive this
P1: PER
P2: SAI
P3: LEC
P4: RUS
P5: HAM
P6: DOG
P6: DOG?
Who's this new guy I never heard of?
My guess is
P1: VER
P2: PER
P3: SAI
P4: LEC
P5: RUS
P6: Maybe HAM, but that's a stretch.
another VER-PER-SAI ?
It happened last race, and he SAI was under the podium for a good chunk of the race. Unless it's Australia (we know what happened there), he can obviously clutch up when it comes dow to the wire.
mclarens?
Maybe NOR in P5, since he's been behind SAI and LEC, but I don't think PIA will do any better than P6 or P7.
yeah
MANIFESTING HULK P7
Max
Tighten
Verstappen








bro is a professional max hater
I'm too
Same
This is so not right
idk why you hate a guy for winning, he is amazing on and off the track
he is amazing off track 
i dont think so
Hey guys
My prediction:
- VER
- LEC
- PER
- SAI
- PIA
- HAM
- NOR
- STR
- RUS
- ALB
Sure, Piastri will place ahead of Norris even with the driver swaps they've been forced to do.
Congrats @atomic grove, you're now on lap 5
Nah P1 Logan sargeant
The only correct answer :)))
Nah, Zhou will win his home race.
is this gp predictions? popped in no context
Yeah GP prediction for China
Where's Kelly Piquet
can someone tell me where to get reaction roles
Ooh Norris getting DNF
ty
Hasn't had one in a while, I feel like Merc and McLaren will have an equally crap weekend and something may happen
Hamilton with more crappy luck, racing incident
Let's not predict DNFs please.
bro💀
Would you like me to predict "p19, p20", I'm not hoping Hamilton or Lando DNFs, I'd love a Lewis podium if anything given his start to the season
I mean I can leave it out but it would be implied since the bottom 5 teams are far slower than top5

Is Predicting one of Top 3 Team racers P19 or P20 okay?
That's fine.
Prediction:



















why so low verstappen?
Becoming Checo 23 ig
Lec is winning sprint
What in the world
Sprint quali will be WILD
high hopes for alpine here
Prediction (Sprint Qualifying)



















assured predictions:

china
prediction for the gp (im stuck in merc dominance era)
- HAM
- BOT
- VER
- ZHO
- SAR
- ALB
- MAG
- RIC
saturday
Sprint quali is on Friday?
Guys Sargeant is winning the race
To assert dominance over the Chinese and spread freedom
🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
a bottas sauber podium would go crazy
Hmm anyone there
All in #formula-1.
Thank you.
Ur welcome
No 3?
Banned by STR (Toro Rosso, not Stroll)
Lawson
Would be ahead of Bottas
Prediction:














(Liam)





Well youve cost yourself a chance at 20/20 
20 what
I'm talking about Lawson/Ricciardo
What

are you saying he gets fired or what i don't understand
Fired
So my original point stands. No 20/20 sorry
HAS WON THE RACE - " that is the sound of depression" - me
my predictions
1.bottas
2.zhou
3.logan
4.stroll
MY PREDICTIONS:
. LOGAN SARGEANT
. THE WHOLE OF ALPINE!!!
. Glorious king hamilton ☺️
. Micheal Schumacher (out of retirement)
- Senna (comes back from the dead)
- Lando wando
. Verstappen ☺️
will he balls
logan will
hes wack
riccairdo does NOT deserve a seat 😭
K-Mag will finish last
id be happy
K-Mag's car is Haas
rather have my great nan in and shes 94
i do not like haas
never met a haas fan
@lunar fern
your a haas fan
*you're
lock your doors.
Man shut up
actually no
I must control my temper
and not let the trolls win every time
😭
China will be Williams's week
I hope you haven't bet any money on it
7th is maybe realistic if they make max drive blindfolded
NOOOO NANDO
Aston Martin will suck in 2026.
Alonso denied
in Melbourne
Alonso doesn't want to be that Bastard's wingman
And Ferrari are occupied by Leclerc and Lewis
blindfolded and he'll still win by 10s
mb
rb though
sainz
fuck
du du du du
max verstappen
chat is this real?
I don't think so.
there's no way that's real lmao
It would be funny af
Pls say thats real
dream moves: Lando to Mercedes, Sainz to Red Bull, Albon to Mclaren, Bearman to Stake, Yuki to Aston, Checo out of F1, Lance to Williams
hmm
maybe the comments will give an idea
ok dont think its real
i know bro said "don't quote me" but this is the most logical one
yeah its not real
or at least unlikely
😭 I'm crying this account has truly had too many brushes with people thinking it's serious
pls be real 
Is anyone not sleeping coz they know the alarms won't wake you up at 730 ?
Or is it just me?
3 all nighters in a row is kinda hard tho
colin as per usual ruining our fun
I'll remove my self
the chat was already dead
I love that account lmao
Well I guess I did nothing then
Just realised fp 1 is in 7 days..... 🥲
Welp
Are you Charles Leclerc
Why?
Why is the Leclerc role higher than sianz
I support both of them but Carlos a little bit more than lecelrc
Charles Leclerc as depicted by NotFifthGear, bless
I see the channel name has changed :)
yes
why did i not get this ping
It's finally time for Zhou's 1st home race.
Did you turn it off
no
p20
WAIT IS NOCHOLAS LATIFI THE GOAT ON THE UKRANIAN ARMY
This will be crazy
Is it happening this year
what
i could have sworen that i saw a video of him on an IFV on ukraine on full fucking uniform
maybe you're sseeing things
Source?
do trust me bro
Isn’t Latifi supposed to be in London at business school
I can’t trust you because why
This is an absurd statement
like i could have SWOREN i saw a photo of him
That’s not him in Ukraine
🤓☝️
THEN?
It’s before the Hungarian gp, I guess someone invited him to test a tank
your fun at parties
sorry the pain thinner is getting to my head
How did you conclude that it was Ukraine
war
huh
there have been 1 trillion billion quintillion wars
how did you get to ukraine
there isn't even much context in the image
ahh ir rembmber
aside from the jug of pain thinner i took today i think i saw RPM saying it was on ukraine
also it didnt say gullible on the celling i know
Sergio going back to the league he was supposed to be in
Chinese F4 🔥 🔥 🔥
Okay but seriously I hope this is a good race
We haven’t seen these turns for some years now
And they’re so fucking good on the f1 games
no more chinese f4 memes
:(
zhou guanyu for home win
im always rooting for home wins even if im not a fan but it’s so unlikely 😭
I wish I was rich and could travel to all the GP's
just took a mortgage out of your home like that one couple
If I could go to all GPs barring those in the Middle East then I probably would ngl
Oh and ofc China no offence to Zhou
Texas too
China would be chill. Drink Tsingtao and eat spicy food!
Abu Dhabi GP looks mad to be fair
verstappen .
first time seeing max dominance on this track 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Max will dominate the Sprint Qualifying with 15 laps ahead of P2
stake pit crew gotta get their shit up or this race
sauber pit crew gotta get their shit up or this race*
we already got 2025 calendar tf
Me too
why does it always end in abu dhabi? i reciently got into f1

It's just like this
Kinda tradition
I would say it's like starting at Bahrain or Australia every year
#f1-news message How does this affect Max Verstappen's legacy?
Because yes
oh great
He's going to get another championship
.sessions
It's in their contract that they have the final race until 2030.
FOM is literally not allowed to move it somewhere else.
They pay for it to be last
abu dhabi 😰
Currently watching japanese gp only now because i can only watch it on replay💀
Nice that yuki is 10th on the grid as its his home race
Red flag on first lap bruh😂
what place will zhou get in chinese gp
Retire
1st
Like 15 atleast hopefully
hope he gets p10 but not possible because of pit crew
if they start with meds and pits a the start then probably chances are there
They need a race without pit stops to not fuck it up.
yes
Just doing an Esteban 2021 in Turkey.
someone say sprint?
what day is the next gp?
21 april
sargent aint making it above p15 in any gp
msot probably ferrari
like always
any chans of merc doing well 🥺
depends on toto's mood and lewis's car
no 🗿
@fading hill you bastard
i died to you so many fucking times in master rev
tf did i do
what even is master rev
ohh yaa sorry bout that
its revengance ofc is gonna be hard bruv
im buffed there
yea
yeah duh
but you could at least like
stop spamming projectiles like it’s touhou
BOOM summons tornado
bullet hell go brr
Lmao i just noticed that the finnish commentator said "Racing Inchident" when the close call between russel and piastri was deemed a racing incident
Wrong
perez demonstration race for next season
as an indian, i can proudly say tht i know the || dutch|| anthem better than ||indian|| anthem
imagine
I hope Zhou gets a good result
Sauber pit crew:
zhou gonna be p9, pit in and the pit crew accidentally disintegrates the wheel nut
Bro the pit crew gonna be watchin Star Wars or sumn while Zhou’s in the pits suffering in front of his home crowd
Doesn’t Sauber have a 100% screw-up for 2024 rn
Planning to steal redbulls car just for zhou p1 😸
me too
Lol
But 1 question how you guys have the drive names
Tx
np
Finally, we are back at Shanghai, i love the layout of this circuit
interested in sprint race
What track did he place this on??
Read the gif again
I love that episode
懂中文的人?
buddy
Is that the episode where the cars are copy cats of the originals
有
CCP grand prix
After an entire month of staying up late, I don't think this will be possible. 😄
Went to bed as soon as the Australian Grand Prix ended
the 2025 calendar opening is hell on earth for european fans
🔥
im willing to hear more of the spanish anthem
just wake your ass up in the morning
For real.
I heard that sainz to mercedes?
you heard wrong
hello people
logan seargent will win the las vegas gp 2025
that would be tough on the drivers
true
and everyone else who works in f1
there would be no more going home
DUDE IM WATCHING CRISPY AND HES DOING A TIKTOK BINGO AND HE CAME ACROSS A BRITISH MAN SINGING 33 MAX VERSTAPPEN
it would stink
no idea who that is
not many people do
didn't know you were bananaswingers alt
lol
zhou pole ⬆️
?av @snow swan
its from texas
this one's from ohio
that looks really cool
