monaco-gp

[slow wagon]

Yeah he's not Vettel (I AM JOKING I AM JOKING)

[soft mason]

Isn’t it incredible that his talent returned like his hairline after he left ferrari?

[slow wagon]

Being next to Stroll will do that for you yes

[soft mason]

Stroll, leclerc, basically the same no? @thin berry

[slow wagon]

Clipping this for later

[pastel yoke]

bird is on the list

[late hemlock]

https://f1tv.formula1.com/

[thin berry]

you mean, hair wise? I gotta say, Lance has nice, shiny thick air

[tawny wing]

Carlos's hair for me is the most magnificent

[soft mason]

Only correct answer honestly

Strolls hair is like a young professor snape

[slim chasm]

wait I cannot unsee it now

[mighty terrace]

I’m not feeling well

[pure burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/audi-rs6-gif-10228373878596922666

[brave tree]

https://tenor.com/view/rs6avant-audi-rs6-gif-20301031

[waxen magnet]

-->

[lethal sand]

Here's a fun offseason question: Let's say you are the President of the FIA, and you were given unlimited power to change the sport of Formula 1 as you see fit, what would you do?

[surreal meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[lethal sand]

Wanna hear some of my changes first?

1). No more DRS, the overtakes are artificial and literally make it almost impossible to defend for the defending driver, so replace it with a push to pass system

[surreal meteor]

…which is not artificial??

[lethal sand]

Well at least with push to pass, it doesn't give the attacking car an unfair advantage

[surreal meteor]

DRS only exists because the cars are too dogshit to race each other, if they could you wouldn't need it, or push to pass or attack mode or any other gimmick

[lethal sand]

IndyCar has it and they don't need it though

[surreal meteor]

yup same with FE and attack mode

[lethal sand]

I'm saying Push to Pass would promote more wheel to wheel racing and drivers having to actually fight for positions

[surreal meteor]

Right but I'm saying what you actually need to fix is the cars

because even with DRS they can't race

[lethal sand]

Which maybe lowering the downforce is a possible solution

[surreal meteor]

overtakes are rare even with an unfair system designed to specifically make more overtakes happen

I mean I'd start with spec power units and making the cars smaller and slower

[lethal sand]

Issue is the PU suppliers wouldn't like it

Though smaller cars is worth exploring

[surreal meteor]

fuck em?

[lethal sand]

I mean do you really want to end up like CART did?

[surreal meteor]

but like… who is going to leave F1 because you made it cheaper lmao

[lethal sand]

Fair

Schedule wise, a hard limit of no more than 22 GPs per year, and one round per country

[surreal meteor]

Honestly I might even reduce it to 20

[lethal sand]

That means no more Miami, Las Vegas, or Imola

[surreal meteor]

Tighten up the schedule

[slow wagon]

16 GPs

[surreal meteor]

Oh yeah Imola can fuck off, worst track on the schedule fr

[lethal sand]

Any applicant countries must have popular support to host F1, can financially support a track, and can't have egregious human rights violations

[surreal meteor]

Smaller cars will also make Monaco enjoyable again

Just putting that out there

[lethal sand]

Maybe the last one is idealistic

[surreal meteor]

I mean listen it is but also \

German GP?

[lethal sand]

Of course

[slow wagon]

Good luck with that last one yeah

[surreal meteor]

like seriously? is that seriously too much to ask for?

One little race in Germany?

[lethal sand]

Monza, Spa, UK, and Monaco are permanent races on the calendar

[surreal meteor]

we have three in the states and about a thousand in the gulf but not a single one in Germany

it's mad

[lethal sand]

Untouchable

[slow wagon]

Interlagos and Suzuka deserve that more than Monaco I'm sorry 😭

[surreal meteor]

no

no no no

[lethal sand]

Monaco was there on the original calendar

[surreal meteor]

if the racing is bad at Monaco, it is the cars fault

[lethal sand]

So it stays

[slow wagon]

Monaco's been bad for racing for quite a while

[lethal sand]

Yes but it's Monaco

[surreal meteor]

you design F1 cars to race well at Monaco in the same way you design Le Mans prototype regs to race well at la Sarthe, and IndyCars to race well at Indianapolis

[slow wagon]

I don't mind it being there but the cars were too big back in the 80s, if we're having staple tracks I'd like for some of them to be the homes of actual racing happening

[lethal sand]

or NASCAR at Daytona

[surreal meteor]

if the cars cannot race at Monaco they shouldn't be in F1

[lethal sand]

Smaller cars

[slow wagon]

You'd need to make em 60s sized again

[lethal sand]

And group the races together seriously

Preseason testing is held at Jerez

[surreal meteor]

right but the 2009 to 2016 cars were way better than what we've had since

[lethal sand]

A venue that doesn't host any round of the championship

[slow wagon]

Sure, but again, Monaco itself has not been a good racetrack for those years either

[lethal sand]

A limit of no more than 25% street circuits

[surreal meteor]

F1 issue, not a Monaco issue

If F1 cars suck at Monaco, change F1 cars

[lethal sand]

The schedule cap is for the teams mainlh

[slow wagon]

Why does Monaco need to be there though

[lethal sand]

Engines? That's where synthetic fuels come in.

[surreal meteor]

oh oh yeah I'd kill the sprint races instantly

[slow wagon]

Plenty of old circuits have been abandoned etc etc

[lethal sand]

As would I

[surreal meteor]

sprints are done

I'd seriously consider ditching testing and practice personally

[lethal sand]

Practice is fine

[surreal meteor]

Not this much

[lethal sand]

Testing should be reduced a bit

[surreal meteor]

They don't need this much

[lethal sand]

Maybe one 60 minute practice

[slow wagon]

Monaco sticks around because it's rich and they have the money to keep the historic circuit there, I don't think the cars need to be made small enough to work at Monaco because they'd need to be laughably tiny

[surreal meteor]

the history lmao

[slow wagon]

Again, cars were too big in the 80s

[lethal sand]

One 60 minute practice is fair, no?

[surreal meteor]

I mean sure yeah

Something to watch on Friday I guess

[lethal sand]

And change the rules to where if a race makes it to halfway but can't continue, then award full points

To prevent a Spa 2021 debacle

[fervent flicker]

So you 3 don't like formula 1
Got it

[lethal sand]

I do. There is zero wrong with improving the sport

[surreal meteor]

oh god no

i don't watch this shit

it's awful

[lethal sand]

F1 could always be better

There is also nothing wrong with learning what other series do better

Let's also talk about the ticket prices for Vegas. I get it F1 is supposed to be premium, but for the sport to be sustainable in the US longterm, you can't solely cater to the very rich

Remember, this sport is in its infancy here basically

[slow wagon]

Nah I just don't really have interest in making cars work for Monaco when they haven't worked for like 40 years

[surreal meteor]

I'm sorry but I genuinely believe the bear minimum for a racing series is that like… at least 5 cars should have a shot at winning the race, every race

[lethal sand]

You have to hit a pricing sweetspoy

[mossy axle]

in your opinion

[lethal sand]

And BOP is a terrible idea

[surreal meteor]

duh

[lethal sand]

No to BOP in F1,

It's a nightmare in endurance racing, it'd be worse in F1

[surreal meteor]

I like BOP

I just don't think BOP is F1

[lethal sand]

Nor do I

[surreal meteor]

I think you need at least some level of free development, and i"d prefer if that was aero over power unit

[lethal sand]

I mean Vegas should charge tickets of $200 to get in on race day

IMHO

[slow wagon]

Lmao

[lethal sand]

That is the sweetspot

[surreal meteor]

I'd decrease hosting fees 100%

[lethal sand]

You have premium pricing without being too expensive

If you get my drift

[surreal meteor]

Like the fact that Nurb and Hock can't afford to host a race is silly

[lethal sand]

And we nearly lost Spa for the same reason

[surreal meteor]

The fact Silverstone's nearly gone bust half a dozen times for the same reason, yeah Spa as well

Oh I'd also pay marshals

[lethal sand]

The European GP comes back as a rotational round with Portimao, Mugello, Nurburgring,or Hockenheim hosting ut

[surreal meteor]

The fact that such important safety related staff, who take on such high levels of risk do not get paid is a fucking joke

[lethal sand]

^

[jade mural]

Congrats @lethal sand, you're now on lap 25

[lethal sand]

Engines are as much as I'd like the V10s back, should stay the same maybe with a development freeze

[surreal meteor]

I'm not sure a freeze works

Because what it means is you freeze the current order

It means no one else can catch up

A regulations freeze is a good idea but I'm not convinced about development freezes

I think I'd like to trial customer cars actually

What is actually wrong with Ferrari selling their car to Sauber or Haas?

[lethal sand]

Not entirely a bad idea

or teams can buy chassis and cars from a third party like Dallara or ORECA

[surreal meteor]

which they can do right now, it’s just that they can’t sell the same one to two teams

[slow wagon]

*takes hit* so we’re getting rid of wings entirely because fuck em and also I am bringing back the Swedish Winter GP make them bitches race on ice idc

[lethal sand]

LOL

[crude flame]

Nurburgring is not coming back because it is owned by Russians

[surreal meteor]

“oh no red bull have four competitive cars not two” such a shame we might actually see a race

[lethal sand]

Then at least bring back Hockenheim

[crude flame]

They are too poor

[lethal sand]

Wait customer teams can exist

[lethal sand]

Which is why historical tracks need some perks like lower hosting fees

[slow wagon]

I am not joking fuck wings and aerodynamic devices

Also I’m making brakes shitter

[surreal meteor]

I’m pretty sure Haas were basically buying their cars from Dallara for at least a year a while back?

[crude flame]

Hockenheim also never really pulled any significant attendance numbers which is also a massive problem

[surreal meteor]

like Dallara was designing it not just making it

[crude flame]

I think one of the years they even had the entire grandstand on the outside of Turn 1 covered up with a banner because they sold so few tickets

[lethal sand]

I thought the rules were that third parties couldn't sell cars to teams anymore

[crude flame]

2016

[lethal sand]

Point taken

I still do like the idea of making the cars a little smaller and replacing DRS with push to pass

[surreal meteor]

do you remember what went on with the Haas/Dallara situation Slendis?

[crude flame]

Uhh I am not exactly sure but I think Dallara was making Haas pretty much everything a while back

Now they just make the chassis I believe

[surreal meteor]

yeah that was pretty much what i had remembered lol

[lethal sand]

Let's also talk about the ticket prices for Vegas. I get it F1 is supposed to be premium, but for the sport to be sustainable in the US longterm, you can't solely cater to the very rich

Otherwise F1 won't remain a mainstream sport for long in the US

[surreal meteor]

yeah they could enforce a cap for GA but they can’t if the promoters wouldn’t be making money

[lethal sand]

F1 was promoting Vegas themselves

So races F1 promotes themselves should have that cap

[surreal meteor]

oh so it’s like NASCAR’s argument for not paying the teams more…

“well the tracks demand and deserve a massive percentage”

while not mentioning they own half the tracks lmao

[lethal sand]

I mean Vegas should charge tickets of $200 to get in on race day, premium but not "Only the 1% apply"

[crude flame]

I personally think it is entirely fine for a race like Las Vegas to be a bit more exclusive than the others just because it is Las Vegas

Las Vegas overall is a bit more exclusive than... idk, Texas

[surreal meteor]

and there’s two other options in the states yeah

[slow wagon]

Trouble is COTA is already one of the more expensive races on the calendar to attend lmao

[lethal sand]

Miami perhaps is a better example of a race that could use lower ticket prices

[surreal meteor]

like i’m pretty sure even if you’re from Nevada flying to COTA still saves you money over Vegas

[slow wagon]

And there's plenty of other much more affordable motorsport events happening in the states, F1 isn't competing with those

[lethal sand]

Hell, NASCAR apparently is still eating F1's lunch in the US over ticket prices

[surreal meteor]

well yeah cuz NASCAR outside of the LA clash is actually affordable

[lethal sand]

Even IMSA, $200 can get you a three day paddock pass for the 24 Hours of Daytona for example

[surreal meteor]

Chicago wasn’t either actually

Chicago street course for NASCAR apparently was not a long way off Miami GP prices

[slow wagon]

Daytona is also stupid expensive

But yeah Nascar is mad affordable and still has the TV monopoly largely

[surreal meteor]

it really isn’t? they’re like $150

[lethal sand]

and apparently are eating F1 's lunch with Gen Z in the demos

[slow wagon]

The 500? They climb fast

[surreal meteor]

I mean Silverstone for a weekend with no seats pushes £500 now, even the Daytona 500, the biggest NASCAR race of the year is vastly cheaper than that, an average F1 race

[lethal sand]

I mean it's also the Daytona 500, of course that's going to be more expensive than the average race

[slow wagon]

That I find suspicious with Nascar since they're always having an issue with younger demographics but it's what it is

[lethal sand]

Morning Consult reported it

[surreal meteor]

I think it’s somewhere in between

[slow wagon]

Besides the big races though Nascar is just a much better option as a viewer in the US

[surreal meteor]

I’m not convinced by MC’s results

[slow wagon]

Nascar's current broadcasting situation is just hostile to viewership but such is life

[surreal meteor]

But I also suspect ‘the core demo’ is underreported week by week by nature of not watching on cable

Also they only have data for the US, which… sucks

[lethal sand]

New one will be better at least

[surreal meteor]

NASCAR constantly says they care about international expansion but there’s never any evidence of it lol

[slow wagon]

No point really when internationally it's harder to compete and they're making off like bandits in the US

[surreal meteor]

I think that misunderstands like… kinda everything

[slow wagon]

That's how they think institutionally

[surreal meteor]

Motorsport isn’t as much of a competition as almost everyone in it seems to think it is

F1 and NASCAR and IndyCar and whoever else always seem to think it’s zero sum

That F1 growing hurts everyone else, but it’s the opposite

[slow wagon]

Well y'know it takes a competitively minded person to get into motorsport to begin with

[surreal meteor]

right so you’d think they’d know a podium is a fucking good result 🤣

[slow wagon]

Not winning though, is it

[lethal sand]

Thing is a lot of online F1 fans are elitists

Not all of them, you guys are cool

[slow wagon]

Besides that with the schedule around motorsports they are often competing for eyeballs on broadcast and in location

[lethal sand]

But I blame Bernie Ecclestone for that

[surreal meteor]

But so are NASCAR fans that’s the thing that’s been so illuminating to me

[remote knoll]

Yes, I am

[lethal sand]

Dirt racing fans can be well jerks too

[slow wagon]

And if you get into Stock Car Discourse™️ you'll see similar vibes between dirt vs track people

Etc etc

Shittiness is universal amen

[lethal sand]

I mean many of them crap on pavement racing

[surreal meteor]

but like a rising tide raises all ships that aren’t covered in holes

[remote knoll]

fans be jerks

[surreal meteor]

(WRC is a ship covered in holes)

(whole other conversation that lol)

[lethal sand]

We all agree RoboRace is stupid though. Human drivers rule

[slow wagon]

Don't remind me

[lethal sand]

Racing is about pushing the limits of man AND machine

[surreal meteor]

I… actually don’t mind it but it’s not the same thing

I don’t mind something like it existing but obviously it’s never gonna replace actual motorsport

[lethal sand]

To me you take away the human driver, you take away a lot of the appeal of racing to me

You guys get me right?

[surreal meteor]

it’s a pure test of engineering rather than driver skill, which is fine, it’s just a different thing

it’s like speedrunning vs TASing

[lethal sand]

Which is honestly why it'll be niche

[remote knoll]

yea

[surreal meteor]

which is fine yeah

[lethal sand]

I do very much respect sprint car racing however

Now THAT takes balls of steel

[surreal meteor]

niche is okay, it’s a big world lol

[lethal sand]

Those cars have a superior power to weight ratio to even F1 cars

A car that light outputting 900BHP

[surreal meteor]

anyway yeah at some point i need to make a video about this kind of thing but it’s at least 4th on the list so it’ll be a long time lmao

[remote knoll]

damn

[lethal sand]

Impressive huh?

Imagine one of these outputting 900BHP

[slow wagon]

Sprint cars are stupid fun

[lethal sand]

Indeed

And as I said, their power to weight ratio rivals F1

Also, I'd love to see the V10s back but that isn't happening

[slow wagon]

Nope

I propose F1 with flat 6s or a V12 purely for noise, rotary or 2 stroke engines purely for vibes

[midnight heron]

Thoughts on Supermodifieds?

[lethal sand]

Don't they race those in upstate New York?

[midnight heron]

Yea

Oswego iirc

https://youtu.be/ymqdIjcRsd0?feature=shared

Yea, Oswego

[late hemlock]

That's not an Audi

[snow swan]

whats the overlay

for the map

[inner parrot]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C1ZO5oDoFF5/?igsh=YTdmYTgyZDdmNQ==

stakef1team

Here we g… 👀 🤫

Likes

89518

Instagram

Tf so stake is not alfa Romeos offical name

[mossy axle]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-down-chill-cool-relax-please-gif-15453925

[snow swan]

stake f1 team kick sauber apparently

or it will just be called kick f1 team

in races

thats what is shown

[umbral atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/ferrari-f1-ferrari-fuck-ferrari-sucks-leclerc-kissing-gif-24029455

[lyric gazelle]

Relatable

[pine turret]

bruh still 46 days till we see an f1 car on the track

[remote knoll]

and only a few days til we see a Formula E car

[pine turret]

i forgot

thx for reminding

[remote knoll]

I hope the race is better than last season tho

it was a bit dull

[soft mason]

Alfas official name was always sauber, alfa was just a sponsor

[signal hound]

changed to Stake F1 team now

on countries that ban such things as Stake they'll use Kick F1 team apparently

[snow swan]

yeah thats what i meant to say

[slim chasm]

That's just the media name

the official name is Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber

[signal hound]

They changed it again by 1/1/2023

Stake F1 team kick sauber was their first name change on Dev 15th of 2023

[slim chasm]

Nope, still the same in the entry list

The new identity was originally flagged in the FIA entry last month as Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber.

That remains its official full identity – including the Kick Sauber chassis name – but the Swiss outfit will use the short version on a day-to-day basis.

I mean not even them is that committed to say the full stupid name every day lmao

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/renamed-stake-f1-team-reveals-new-logo/10561780/

[slow wagon]

😭 the rebrand of the rebrand of the rebrand

NAW

[signal hound]

really thought they got rid of that goofy name again on the entry list

turns out they didn't

[slow wagon]

Time to drop the Sauber role

[slim chasm]

You don't want to support the Stake F1 team and spread betting awareness to children? smh

[slim chasm]

unfortunately for the rest of F1, they didn't

[signal hound]

Crofty on their way to have a seizure when calling out the team name

[stiff bough]

he should probably slow down his commentary

dude speaks faster than he can think, you see it so often when it comes to him differentiating two teammates lol

[slim chasm]

You're assuming that Sauber will do something to be mentioned lmao

[stiff bough]

The stakes are high for Zhou and Bottas as they're nearing a Q1 knockout

[slim chasm]

shit

you're right

[signal hound]

😂

[slow wagon]

Ik right I’d rather support a cocaine smuggling maniac with no regard for human life

[signal hound]

Bro actually went ahead and dropped the role
I thought you were joking 😂😂

[slow wagon]

Lmao I just don’t want to have it when it inevitably changes color to lime green or something like that on here

[stiff bough]

them being a title sponsor while being a gambling company is like the least of my concerns as far as sponsors go, thats super normal in sports these days especially, hell the NFL is partnered with the three biggest sports betting services in the US

[slow wagon]

Doesn’t fit the vibe of my pfp

Hence

Role dropped

[waxen siren]

happy birthday Lewis

[surreal meteor]

right that makes sense

the chassis naming rights were sold to Kick, but the team title sponsor is Stake

[timber idol]

who tf gonna refer to them as stake
I sure ain’t

[sturdy rapids]

im calling them steak

tbh i don't understand why yall are making such a big fuss

[mossy rose]

🥩

[sturdy rapids]

"🥩 @hollow seal 🦶 😭 R"

(sorry for the ping teeem)

[mossy rose]

LMAOAO

[fading stream]

istg if they don’t actually play this at Monaco GP this year ima riot

cause there’s actually race car sounds in it

istg

[mossy rose]

No fr

[fading stream]

it’s even says this

[mossy rose]

Ayee redbulls 2024 song fr

[fading stream]

benito red bull fan confirmed

[rose timber]

Hello

[rose timber]

ITS A FAKE FERRARI FAN LETS GO

[haughty onyx]

any thing to look forward to in january for f1?

any car reveals?

[storm verge]

no

[fair night]

Nothing

[haughty onyx]

only february?

[fair night]

Yup

[haughty onyx]

car reveals and testing is in february?

[fair night]

Yes

[haughty onyx]

what a boring month then wow

[pastel cave]

Stake f1 is à weird name

[marsh spear]

No driver changes for the first time. It's not really a surprise its been a quiet off season

[dense hornet]

bottas fan fic

[clear light]

The only thing that we should be interested in is finding out the new name for alphatauri

[coarse obsidian]

Maybe a simultaneously, Red Bull/AT (new name enter here) car launch

[clear light]

Oooooo I hadn’t thought about that

[mossy rose]

WHAT 💀💀

[amber hill]

im late to this but wtf is up with the stake logo design??? that does NOT look like an f1 team.... more like an energy drink

[sudden star]

gee i wonder what other team also looks like a energy drink….

[stiff bough]

what is an f1 team logo supposed to look like

[fast hawk]

Unlike RBR which looks like an F1 team and totally not an energy drink

[amber hill]

...good point

[narrow garnet]

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/latest-news/2024/mclaren-racing-and-alpinestars-to-suit-up-together-from-2024-season/

[naive shale]

I’m so bored no more f1

The season is so close yet so far

[wet sequoia]

Can just always sleep until the first race

[hollow granite]

Guys Just remember that the season ended on November, we made it this far...

Its the time of the year to hype and dream even tho we all know its not going to be real

(Me as a Tifosi)

[wheat wyvern]

So errm, Haas updated their website and Günther is no longer listed

Pls dont tell me hes gone

[ivory ivy]

He was main character of F1

He actually got me into F1 in drive to survive

[green lichen]

Bloody guenthers left!

[dawn rose]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[pseudo quail]

Haas wdc

[severe edge]

someones coming 10th in the constructors

[forest dock]

Bearman to HAAS pretty much confirmed then for 2025 😉

[shy ferry]

That's kind of a given with Haas

Gunther Fok smashed his own door

[severe edge]

it was probably gene smashing the door, then asking gunther to say he did it

[shy ferry]

Lmao

I feel like Haas will become 2015 Mclaren

If not worse than that, idk how things will go

Haas fans better pray that the VF-24 isn't the Williams FW42

(Or whatever that awful Williams car was)

[copper mulch]

Fok smash ma dor 😡

😭

[shy ferry]

I love how Niki Lauda told us that F1 went from just needing "Big Balls" to needing a masters degree in technology and computers to be able to drive in f1

[copper mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/he-he-he-he-he-funny-gif-26077223

[valid arch]

True

[remote knoll]

ferrari

[shy ferry]

Alright, classic f1 liveries that would look sick on an f1 car from today

[inner parrot]

Haas sucks now firing steiner was the worst thing they could do n it's not even like they hav the best car in the grid

[midnight heron]

The red martini brabham liveries from the mid-late 70’s perhaps?

[severe edge]

the last thing they need rn is a change in leadership

[inner parrot]

Like imagine rb firing horner which is not possible since he is the CEO or merc firing toto

[severe edge]

haas is close to ferrari in more ways than it first appeared, it seems

[inner parrot]

I know right, n it's like if the team is messing up then just go n fire the race principal n the problem will be solved

[sturdy rapids]

steiner's not good, but there's so much worse with haas there's not much of a point

[inner parrot]

Well, i don't know about their highly confidential meetings to success n stuff but he was at least good for our entertainment 🥲

[soft arch]

i really hope the new guy’s better

i cant remember his name but he just LOOKS trustworthy

[inner parrot]

What this ayao guy used to do before being team principal

I hav seen him on grid lot of times

[stuck tapir]

Chief engineer I think

[inner parrot]

If they hav to promote a member from their race engineering department then they r focked

It's like a chain of promotions to make the replacement of the guy who got promoted

[stuck tapir]

Haas doing haas things, sucks to be one 🥲

[brazen wharf]

One last fok smash for the road

[shy ferry]

Lol, Steiner leaving was the last shit I expected lmao

I'll admit

[soft arch]

he was an engineer originally, he’s been with haas since 2016 when the team first came into f1

obviously he’s had a lot of promotions so idk exactly what he did before becoming team principal but he’s an engineer by trade

[inland kernel]

You guys tell me this

https://web.archive.org/web/20231127071518/https://www.williamsf1.com/partners From the Archive As of 27th of November 2023

https://www.williamsf1.com/partners
From their official website As of the present day

[stiff bough]

He's had 6 years in that role and has done nothing but be useless prick.

sorry, 8 years*

[pine turret]

yeah its true

he hasnt changed his approach to being TP ever

never learned from mistakes

[carmine forge]

Is it true that kimi Antonelli and Fran colapinto are driving for Williams in 2025?

I read on Twitter that Williams is going to turn into like a team to train Young drivers or smth like that (alpha tauri type)

Most likely false

[slim chasm]

no

[restive void]

no

[sturdy rapids]

yeah, vowles does not want that

[wet sequoia]

I honestly won’t be surprised if RB is forced to sell AT by the end of 2025

Or start the process of selling at the end of this year

[toxic atlas]

Feel like this is quite harsh given how cheap Gene is being

They had some initial success by exploiting a grey area which gave Gene false confidence in their approach. Steiner has always had his hands tied

I guess it's fair enough to hold him ultimately accountable but I would be surprised if this is going to change anything in the medium term

And I dont mean cheap in a "we spend near the budget cap" way, but actual investment in team infrastructure rather than relying on Ferrari and Dallara. The more you outsource, the less competitive you're going to be

Gene seems delusional. Is he expecting to fight with the likes of Alpha Tauri with renewed RB partnership, Alpine and Aston Martin? He'll be lucky to beat Sauber

[stiff bough]

Definitely is, I was just never a fan of Steiner.

[silent swift]

I think Steiner already did everything that he could do
Given Haas' budget constraints, it's unrealistic to expect them to build a supercar in this situation. If Steiner were truly useless, Haas would have ceased to exist by 2020.

[clear light]

What was the main reason for hass to drop Steiner?

[carmine forge]

I mean he was overall a kinda bad tp

[deft halo]

Difference in vision and lack of results.

Gene wanted to turn to a more technical leader as well.

[clear light]

Here’s hoping haas get better results in the future

[carmine forge]

Heres gene's statement

[remote knoll]

Bro has no interest at all

[clear light]

Ahhhh that makes sense any team would do that if they felt they didn’t want to be last in the sport they compete in

[tender junco]

Don’t blame him at all tbh

Gunther was more focused on Netflix it felt like

[deft halo]

huh

[oblique elk]

next level dts viewer

[old rivet]

Apart from his driving conditions, the biggest challenge for Colapinto are sponsors. They hyped him up in Argentina at the end 23 because he moved to F2. But long way to go for him.

[carmine forge]

if he performs very well con F2 he might get some sponsors

i hope

[old rivet]

Hopefully. Usually sponsors come the own country. And Argentina is not in a great place to spend USD for a sport that has followers here but is not the biggest Motorsport.

[surreal meteor]

bro never should've left 2019 with the team

Firstly Rich Energy

Secondly they refused to listen to Grosjean who spent months telling them they'd made a mistake and they should go back to the old spec floor, and when they finally did it was way better. And they still ditched him just a year later. They refused to listen to the experienced driver they hired for his experience, even though he was completely right.

And that's before the whole Mazepin/Uralikali situation, before the whole hiring Schumacher and then ditching him anyway thing

He just made poor choices reliably

[storm verge]

every major decision he made was a bad one

sure he made sure Haas survived during covid

[surreal meteor]

Evidentially so did Gene because he wasn't willing to fire him (frankly sounds like a theme with him given he wanted to keep Custer over Preece in the 41 and Tony Stewart had to put his foot down, hard, in the media)

[storm verge]

but that doesnt really negate his horrible managerial decisions

[surreal meteor]

Poor on track choices, poor PR choices, put the team into awful financial situations, twice

It's a miracle he was still there

[crude flame]

Ultimately I think Steiner leaving will be a loss for Haas because he became such a profile for the team

Even when the team was underperforming he managed to put the light on them and was always completely honest which people enjoyed

I do not think Steiner was all bad either because he was after all the driving force in a lot of major decisions which ultimately saved the team

He was never really fit to run any team but Haas but I think with what he was given he did an alright job

We will never know the full truth but it seems like it ultimately came down to Gene and him disagreeing on the future of the team

But if Steiner ends up being right in believing the team needed more investment then him being fired will just be further proof of the team operating with their hands behind their back because of Gene

[old rivet]

I wonder what will Gunther say if/when he talks. One thing is for Haas to say they had differences in their vision for the team. Different when Haas comes out saying he was embarrassed.

[crystal widget]

Guenther wanted a real team and whined about it, gene wants status quo which is probably super inefficient since the third parties that build the car build for profit.

[soft arch]

to be honesttttt

i like the new guy

ive said this a lot but he looks like a cool dude. and he’s been there since the start

[narrow garnet]

omg

https://vxtwitter.com/ValtteriBottas/status/1745440866678997074?s=20

he's gone full blond

[wet sequoia]

Holy fuck he’s gone full bogan

[narrow garnet]

guess it's the only way to stand out when your driving has been completely anonymous

[wet sequoia]

Need a sponsorship from Bundy Rum

That and Longbeach cigarettes

[south heron]

thank Alfa/Sauber for that

[remote knoll]

who invited bro

Also I like how Mick is shorter than Hamilton

[pine turret]

his legs are spread apart and its a wide angle so who knows

[oblique elk]

mick is 5cm taller than hamilton

1.76/1.71

[mild mist]

both Lewis and Russell have talked about how Mick did a fantastic job in simulator

so he’s just not there being a cute face

[slim chasm]

every high profile sim driver ever got called that lol

it's as relevant as a rookie driver being described as "willing to learn"

or a veteran as "having good feedback"

[oblique elk]

i mean they wouldnt really be able to say "yeah he was shit" would they

[slim chasm]

also that

he's still got a good relationship with Merc

[oblique elk]

im interested to see what he can do with alpine in wec though

[slim chasm]

hopefully less trip to the wall

[oblique elk]

fingers crossed

[mild mist]

Toto talked about it too, i don’t remember which race where Merc were struggling a lot and they said Mick basically spent the whole night in the sim

i think it was Spanish GP or something

i might be wrong

[slim chasm]

as legendary as Jake Dennis' whole night at sim

or Gio

or Hartley

[mild mist]

so it’s just not talking to make Mick look useful or something

[south heron]

yes it was

[slow wagon]

I mean Toto is also managing him

So

They talked to Williams etc etc

[remote knoll]

oh ok

[untold root]

Does anyone else support multiple teams or what 😭

[slow wagon]

What do you define as support

[untold root]

I’m an editor and I edit all my top three teams and have hella merch for them all

I have merch for teams I don’t even support aswell

[slow wagon]

Oh wild in that case I may possibly support uh. No teams

I have like. Old shit.

[ocean apex]

lol

[coarse obsidian]

Messi the GOAT.

[terse aspen]

Tis be the season. Norris will get a race win 🙏

[ocean apex]

Agreed

Hopefully

🤞🤞

[slim chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[carmine forge]

piastri gonna win a GP before norris

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1054492617955622954/1094745747951468574/twj05q6naula1.gif

[untold root]

The delusion is strong with this one

[wet sequoia]

Yeah Piastri will get a win first

Then Norris will leave for Red Bull or Ferrari

[rose prairie]

yea redbull is gonna want norris 😂

and who is getting replaced at ferrari

[mossy rose]

Lets hope he goes to redbull

[wet sequoia]

Possibly Sainz

[slow wagon]

I would think Ferrari would try to get an Albon before a Norris, Norris would be better off sticking it out at McLaren even if Ferrari was an option for the most part

[wet sequoia]

Norris has said he’d rather stay at McLaren but Red Bull and Ferrari both want him

[slow wagon]

Red Bull I have heard but Ferrari I hadn't

Last I heard they were sniffing around Albon

And Ferrari and McLaren aren't different enough in performance to bite the bullet and play number two

[wet sequoia]

Ferrari looking at Norris is about a month old news, doubt he’ll switch as long as McLaren keep putting out a better car

Albon was an option as well but I more see him going to Mercedes in the event Hamilton retires (Unlikely until South Africa is back on the roster)

[jaunty jay]

I feel like hamilton'll go as far as alonso is rn

[wet sequoia]

If either of them have a really bad season I think they’ll might consider they’ve done enough

[slow wagon]

Albon at Ferrari would at least be a considerable upgrade for him over Williams

Where the gain for Norris would be incremental while also losing his status in McLaren

[jaunty jay]

alonso maybe not

bro pushes whether hes in a shitbox or a wdc car lol

[slow wagon]

Alonso idk how long he'll keep trucking but I hope forever

Real question is what dies first, Bernie Ecclestone or Nando's career

[jaunty jay]

damn

[wet sequoia]

Will teams take him though? Yes he has experience and 2 world titles but it’s not entirely on the driver

[jaunty jay]

look at him rn

bros carrying aston martin

[wet sequoia]

I’m aware

[jaunty jay]

i don't have much info to base on though since his teammate isn't a fast one..

[slow wagon]

I mean a top team that isn't Aston is like

Not realistic

[jaunty jay]

tru

[slow wagon]

So the hopes for him rest squarely on Aston getting good

[jaunty jay]

shouldnt go too badly

they got a heck lot of funding, they got the brilliance of alonso ||they got stroll showing the world how not to drive a car||

[wet sequoia]

Stroll was ok before Aston downgraded, even then Stroll was bottom dragging and Alonso was usually still getting some points

Even there there is a clear driver skill difference

Still, only takes a bad season

[jaunty jay]

i mean throughout history stroll was mostly beat by teammates

[jaunty jay]

tru

[slow wagon]

I mean (all due respect to Seb) the fact that he didn't beat Seb either year Seb was there is a concern

[jaunty jay]

Seb is an interesting case

u saw his stint with leclerc

in ferrari

[slow wagon]

His 2020 was dire and he was never the same after 2018 anyway

[jaunty jay]

wait what happened?

[slow wagon]

2018 Hockenheim

[jaunty jay]

i will briefly take a look at that nr

[slow wagon]

Ah do you want spoilers or no

[jaunty jay]

sure

so i don't have to keep u waiting lol

[slow wagon]

Oh lmao Seb spun out lost the lead of the championship and his home race

So uh

His second half of the 2018 season was extremely messy and just. Lost it.

He definitely had his moments after that but all the consistency of form for him was gone

[jaunty jay]

damn

rip

[slow wagon]

Yep

[jaunty jay]

do u think seb could've won 2018 wdc if that didn't happen?

[slow wagon]

Uh

Idk

He had a chance but also it's Ferrari and Merc developed well and Hamilton was very good that year as well

[jaunty jay]

tru

[stiff bough]

No.

[slow wagon]

Like. MAYBE if he got lucky and managed to get in Hamilton's head

But uh. I think Lewis got more in Seb's head than Seb ever managed with him

[soft mason]

Lewis was fresh off the heels of the merc civil war, no way seb could win the mental games lmao

Seb is a generational talent, hamilton is in a different league entirely

[slow wagon]

Baby Schumi woulda never locked himself in a bathroom just to prevent other people from using it

That's why that nickname was dumb

Among other reasons

[soft mason]

That being said put hamilton in any team other than merc in 2017 and he wouldn't have won, even if he keeps the car

[soft mason]

This sounds like a pressure point for you, feel free to indulge us

[slow wagon]

Seb as a driver and Schumi as a driver are so far from each other lmao like in terms of vibes and actual driving

They're just Both German everything else is not similar

Seb could never

[narrow garnet]

Albert Park starting to glow up on the main straight

Nothing really starting on other parts of the circuit as yet

Will probably be a couple weeks more before that

[wet sequoia]

He needs to get back into a car

[wispy quest]

lulz

[mighty terrace]

HOODIE DRIVING HAHAHAHAHA

[south heron]

yeah and ngl I don't mind it

if anything that's kinda why I vibe with him more than any other driver

[slow wagon]

Seb has very good vibes and the story of him being a bit scared and running out of a strip club has to be truly the most human thing imaginable

[south heron]

awwwww yeah lmao

haven't even heard of it

[narrow garnet]

McLaren seem to be cooking up a rebrand of some sort

[fast hawk]

They're now fully owned by Bahrain so

[fervent berry]

is DTS out on netflix ?

[dawn thistle]

Yes all 5 seasons

[hushed bison]

mclaren livery is one of the things i didn't expected to see today

[uncut rose]

f1 bingo'

[earnest creek]

feel like this could be the second one to get checked lol

[uncut rose]

english is not my first launage so i dont undertsnad whtas wrong

[uncut rose]

now i saw whts wrong

[agile relic]

o

[dawn rose]

That’s not bingo that’s bing

[limpid scaffold]

you can check out ferrari dnf already

[wet sequoia]

Bingo is 5x5

Need 9 more options on board

-Yuki swearing on radio
-Ocon getting a time penalty
-Piastri being called an old man young hands
-Riccardo does a shoey
-Marko makes negative comments about Perez

Someone help me out

[hushed bison]

Ocon time penalty will happen before the season starts

[wet sequoia]

-Red Bull gets accused of cheating
-Someone makes a Steak-Stake joke on air
-Russell makes a new meme about himself (Fuck he’s already on the bingo board for something)
-A new rule is created due to Max

[wet sequoia]

-Bottas does something nude
-Andretti gets approved for a F1 team

[next oasis]

will it increase the front wing's ram usage?

[still forge]

You now remember Oscar having to wait in the pits for his car to reboot in Bahrain

[narrow garnet]

and then it just dying anyway 😭

[uncut rose]

hasnt happend in 2024

[still forge]

Inb4
Chuck chucks it on pole in Bahrain
Lap 37 DNF

It doesn't take much

[tired lily]

Inb4?

[storm verge]

in before

[tired lily]

ah

[pine turret]

@still forge i have come to take your place

do not resist

[frigid dawn]

that mclaren looks daim sexy

[limpid scaffold]

100% gonna happen

[uncut rose]

yeahh

[still forge]

[uncut rose]

my opinion

[deft halo]

based on what

[severe edge]

sexual attractiveness

personally i would put charles in S but whatever floats your boat

[deft halo]

💀

[uncut rose]

true

[narrow garnet]

https://vxtwitter.com/dmoxon_/status/1747730756246372566?s=20

[soft mason]

You cannot put ocon over checo and ricciardo

[stiff bough]

Who is this guy and why should we listen to him?

Never seen him before now, so I’m not sure what his credibility is, especially so given he works for The Mirror

[narrow garnet]

I'd take his word over news aggregators that flat out lied about web links going to places

[slim chasm]

both are shit lmao

it's the Mirror

[storm verge]

who the fuck is that guy

[stiff bough]

https://tenor.com/view/who-da-fook-conor-mcgregor-who-the-fuck-gif-12856313

[soft arch]

based on skill??

how how much u like them

if it’s skill-based i’d probably move checo up to b and sainz down to a

[uncut rose]

hot ness

[soft arch]

ah right

i think ur actually wrong

because

verstappen looks a bit like a pufferfish

in a cute way

but not S material

[dense hornet]

tsunoda d cus short

[slow wagon]

Ferrari on tuesday 13? LMAO

[obtuse elm]

yeah

typical Ferrari strategy

[south heron]

McLaren and Merc both already took that date 😔

also that leaves just Haas and Racing Bulls to announce their dates

[remote knoll]

cant wait to see sauber and racing balls

all the others are boutta be the same

especially rb's ass

[jovial swallow]

leak: ferrari will be red and rb will probs be the same

[gleaming belfry]

such a cool name thanks

[distant iron]

Visa Cash App Racing

Bulls

Honestly that too many words

Maybe just Cash App

Or Visa

[narrow garnet]

or Racing Bulls

[remote knoll]

gucks

[stiff bough]

Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant F1 Team begs to differ

[stiff bough]

Vertex

[remote knoll]

hello

[stiff bough]

hello

[pine turret]

Which is worse
stake f1 team kick sauber or visa cash app racing bulls

[drowsy crest]

visa cash app

[coarse obsidian]

Stake F1

[wet sequoia]

Why not both? They’re both horrible to say and listen to

[slim chasm]

don't you like seeing VISA CASHAPP RACING battling the STAKE car? smh

[pine turret]

both fighting for p9 in the constructors championship

[slim chasm]

nah

AT will cook

[pine turret]

☝️ 🤓 actually it's Visa Cash App Racing Bulls™

get it right next time

[slim chasm]

damn sorry

I disrespect the team smh

[velvet crater]

At least its readable unlike Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber

[tawny mason]

I’m still wondering why Stake F1 Team wants to Kick Sauber

[narrow garnet]

AT have deactivated the account?! Tf is going on

[fluid forge]

They switching it to visacashapp racing bulls😭

[loud elk]

VISA CASHAPP RACING BULLS?!

[narrow garnet]

Yeah I knew that, just didn't think they'd delete their entire bloody account 💀

[vague bramble]

rolls off the tongue better than a square tire

[coarse obsidian]

Toro Rosso is a lot better

[deft halo]

?sessions

?sessions

[jade mural]

FORMULA 1 ARAMCO PRE-SEASON TESTING 2024

Practice Day 1: <t:1708498800:f> - <t:1708531200:t>
Practice Day 2: <t:1708585200:f> - <t:1708617600:t>
Practice Day 3: <t:1708671600:f> - <t:1708704000:t>

All times in your local time zone

[dense hornet]

thanks stimo

[tender junco]

2am-11am every day bro

[toxic siren]

.sessions

[jade mural]

FORMULA 1 ARAMCO PRE-SEASON TESTING 2024

Practice Day 1: <t:1708498800:f> - <t:1708531200:t>
Practice Day 2: <t:1708585200:f> - <t:1708617600:t>
Practice Day 3: <t:1708671600:f> - <t:1708704000:t>

All times in your local time zone

[remote knoll]

1 AM?

you son of a

[remote knoll]

😭

fucking timezones

im gonna get rid of them one day

[deft halo]

It's pre-season testing. There's not much to see, really.

[remote knoll]

i mean true

but still

I like to see the cars after a long break

[whole isle]

Next F1 Event

Location

Sakhir

Event

F1: FP1 (Bahrain Grand Prix)

Time Until Event

<t:1709206200:R>

[narrow garnet]

1800-0300 each day 😎

[fluid pike]

When does the season restart

[wet sequoia]

Google

[narrow garnet]

Feb 29th, the week after testing

[grizzled leaf]

GUYS ONLY 1 MONTH LEFT

[snow swan]

only 1 month left until I hear the Dutch national anthem again 🫡

I'm really so hyped about it🥸

[mossy axle]

doubt you are gonna hear it during pre season testing

[snow swan]

McLaren looking real tight this season

maybe ur right

[soft arch]

they’re in their emo phase

deleted all their posts and became edgy

tbh i’m here for it

[coarse obsidian]

Impossible to hear when the tv is muted.

[pine turret]

let's fucking go

[modest rain]

til what

[radiant crow]

What do you think..

[modest rain]

until max wins again😔

[radiant crow]

Probs

[pine turret]

Till the Dutch anthem blasts in our ears

[shell hatch]

amagine someones alarm was this:

[snow swan]

@ionic temple holden or ford

[dawn rose]

Getting so close to the season

We're what, a month away from PST?

[ionic temple]

holden allday

[snow swan]

i got a vy ute

[old snow]

i just need to push one more month bro. just survive one more month and all problems will be solved bro february is your month man

[remote knoll]

daytona this weekend

[heavy orchid]

wasn’t even my question but I arrived at the right time,

I’m a Holden boiii

Nice display username btw

[old snow]

rallye monte carlo this week too

[snow swan]

thanks mate you get it

[surreal flame]

I’m a forf bloke

Forf 👍

[snow swan]

FUCK FORF

[midnight heron]

Gibson R32 jumpscare

[snow swan]

ah

[snow swan]

nah id love a xy ute

[surreal flame]

But mmmmmmm

[snow swan]

a fella let me sit in his replica of brocks commodore

[surreal flame]

Ah yeah

#05 VK or?

[surreal flame]

Yeeeee

Brilliant

[snow swan]

YAAA

[midnight heron]

Aw hell naw

[surreal flame]

Cursed fr

[midnight heron]

And that’s your pfp

[surreal flame]

Tis indeed

But Rotor 🙏

[surreal flame]

Me and my mates run a rx7 in ipra, there’s always some #05 VK replica somewhere lmao

[snow swan]

nicee

[midnight heron]

I wonder if anyone has photoshopped the front of an R32 GTR onto a VL Commodore Walkinshaw before

[surreal flame]

Ehhhh maybe

Mmmmmmm

Forty Twinks frfr

[surreal flame]

I got some vids somewhere

[narrow garnet]

https://racingnews365.com/alphatauris-new-f1-name-confirmed

[surreal meteor]

holy crap that’s bad

[surreal meteor]

the name and logo in there don’t even agree with each other

[narrow garnet]

insert your name here RB insert your name here F1 team

[surreal meteor]

“Visa Cash App RB”

or is it “Visa RB Cash App Formula One Team”??

[narrow garnet]

Visa Cash App RB is the official name

[ancient prairie]

what does the rb stand for though

[narrow garnet]

officially we don't know

could just be RB, might be Racing Bulls, who knows

[crude flame]

The press release only ever refers to it as "RB"

[narrow garnet]

for all we know it could mean Red Bull as well

[crude flame]

That is exactly what they want us to think

But officially they will probably say Racing Bulls or something

[narrow garnet]

No one in the team has actually used the term Racing Bulls

so I'm starting to doubt if that's actually what it means

[surreal meteor]

The real question is what is Crofty gonna call em and why is it ‘the former Toro Rosso’ or ‘the team from Faenza’?

[narrow garnet]

truth

[stiff bough]

but the domains registered have Racing Bulls mentioned

[storm verge]

they wanna use the RB for the f1 team like how they’re using the RB for RB Leipzig

RB doesn’t stand for Red Bull but whenever anyone sees the RB they think of Red Bull

[crude flame]

It stands for Racing Bulls so that is what it officially means

But they know everyone will think Red Bull

[surreal meteor]

Which is the point, obviously

[somber mortar]

confusion squad

[slim chasm]

Slendis has received the PR manager job I see

[deep hare]

man

that

sucks

why are all f1 team names just 📉

[timber idol]

I heard somewhere it wasn’t racing bulls but literally just RB

like red bulls football teams like RB leipzig

[tender junco]

Respect Williams racing

[coarse obsidian]

I was thinking of the same thing.

Crofty might as well call them Visa F1 (team).

[toxic siren]

Because money.

[narrow garnet]

here will not be any track access allowed post race at the Australian GP this year

Fuckwits last year ruining it for everyone

[daring lynx]

In true Australian spirit they'll probably do it anyway

[narrow garnet]

If they do that then there's no hope of it ever returning

[mossy rose]

They better 😭

[obtuse elm]

it is most definitely racing bulls

[slim chasm]

it is racing bulls

but like the RasenBallsport in Leipzig, they won't use the full name outside of official full title shit

[narrow garnet]

they better fucking not

ruining it for everyone permanently instead of just one year

they would deserve everything coming for them

[mossy rose]

Fair enough

[inland kernel]

Maybe just call them vcarbs if they make a bad racweek then we can just make fun of them fullstop

Because the logo itself is a meme template and we can just do alot of memes with it since the logo is way too simple and is in flat colors logo as well

[slim chasm]

speaking of safety issue

I wonder if they will upgrade the fencing again after a fan got hit by debris last year

[narrow garnet]

Not really much you can do, the debris went over rather than through

[slim chasm]

well, fair

[inland kernel]

Well here is the funniest thing that happened to me

When I wrote The VCARB and the long for of Visa Cashapp Racing Bulls Formula One Team

This pop's up 😂😭💀

Guess I will call them VCarb Toro Rosso F1 Team

[sturdy rapids]

what about
STRATRB

or "the old Alpha Tauri"

wait

the team overall

should just be

"Strat RB"
Scuderia
Toro
Rosso
Alpha
Tauri

Racing
Bulls

and they're on the Red Bull strat

[storm verge]

what

[fast hawk]

Minardi

[wet sequoia]

Literally the best name yet

[spring mural]

Just saw that haas expect themselves to be the slowest car at Bahrain

[dense hornet]

very wrong

[spring mural]

So… im seeing leclerc signed a new deal?

Is that true?

[glad raft]

He extended his contract with Ferrari

[narrow garnet]

extention of unknown length

[spring mural]

I see

Wasnt sure if it was true or not

[narrow garnet]

I hope he has an opt out clause in case things go south

[spring mural]

You never know

Anything can happen this year

Besides a guaranteed max win

[narrow garnet]

I jest of course, but I do wonder if this means anything for Sainz when his contract runs out at the end of the year

[glad raft]

I kinda hope he resigns

[narrow garnet]

probably a wait and see for Sainz as to what others do I guess

[glad raft]

yeah

[spring mural]

I do wanna see some moving around

Like some f2 drivers moving up or reserve drivers

[glad raft]

Maybe some people all might around next year

[narrow garnet]

If either Bottas and Zhou go, you can bet Hulk will take the first opportunity to jump back to Sauber, which means Maybe Bearman comes in there seeing Gene is all "closer ties with ferrari, etc."

[glad raft]

Checo might move to a new team if his performances aren’t good this upcoming season

[spring mural]

If perez underwhelms again, i see him leaving

And i see lawson probably getting a seat

And astons reserve guy too

[glad raft]

Lawson has potential to be a full time driver and not just a reserve

[spring mural]

Definitely

[narrow garnet]

Lawson would go to RB and tbh, idk who of Danny or Yuki would be promoted to the main team, would depend on how each of them do this year

[glad raft]

And how Checo is doing too

[narrow garnet]

well, this is presuming checo does leave

[spring mural]

True

[glad raft]

yea

[spring mural]

Also im never calling tauri that current name. Its absurd

[glad raft]

Same

[crude flame]

It is just Racing Bulls

[glad raft]

The race will probably be over by the time they finish announcing the name 💀

[spring mural]

RB Tauri. Works for me

[crude flame]

Racing Bulls

[narrow garnet]

VCARB

🍞

[glad raft]

And then you got saubers new name too

[narrow garnet]

I refuse to give that scummy gambling company any mention, it's just sauber

[spring mural]

Drugovich is someone that also I can see maybe getting a seat

[crude flame]

no way

[spring mural]

I said maybe

Not a guarantee

[crude flame]

No chance

[stiff bough]

Felipe getting a seat would actually be comical.

[spring mural]

I mean.. williams could let logan go for him. You never know

[crude flame]

Literally no chance

[stiff bough]

that'd be quite the downgrade 😭

[crude flame]

Williams refused to sign Vesti in place of Sargeant so why would they get Drugovich instead of Sargeant

[narrow garnet]

we don't know how Logan will do this year, he should improve, but by how much, who knows

[glad raft]

I think they already invested so much in Logan already

If so, I don’t think they would replace him

[spring mural]

Good point

Im just wanting to see drivers get seats and such

[glad raft]

same

There are so much F2 drivers that have a bunch of potential to be in F1

[mossy rose]

Agree with you on that

If they wanted to let go of logan they wouldve done it this year

[stiff bough]

I can think of two.

Bearman and Martins

[glad raft]

Agreed

[stiff bough]

I'm not including Antonelli because he's a very big unknown.

[mossy rose]

Glad freedom is still on the grid 😭

[spring mural]

I could see Pourchaire getting something as hes been rated highly in the f1 manager games. 🤷‍♂️

[glad raft]

lol

[mossy rose]

Both bearman and martins have better stats im pretty sure

[spring mural]

Theos rated 75 to start.

[crude flame]

Now that is an interesting logic

[narrow garnet]

Antonelli shouldn't be in the F1 convo for at least another 18-24 months, throwing him in next year would be way too early and would just ruin his future for sure, thankfuly toto wants him in F2 for at least two seasons to learn first

the only issue is, what if Kimi somehow wins F2 this year, he's in purgatory for a year

[spring mural]

Lol my logic shouldnt make sense as i dont really follow too much f2 and f3

[stiff bough]

Theo built his own ship to enter F1 with, and then last year turned around with an RPG and blew it up

this dude had the most pathetic F2 title win ever 😭

[mossy rose]

I agree with you fs, bros gonna do a de vries

[spring mural]

I see

[stiff bough]

Can't exactly do a de vries

he was hardly a rookie

mf had a careers worth of racing experience by the time he got here

and now he's frauded himself to the best seat in WEC

[spring mural]

I mean the dude was sitting in mercedes’ reserve spot for a bit

I think?

[stiff bough]

seems to be the case with the f1 rejects

they become toto's lap dog

[crude flame]

There was no reason why de Vries would be as bad as he turned out to be at driving a Formula 1 car

Bro had like all kinds of experience you could ask for

[spring mural]

Sometimes things happen

[stiff bough]

nah bro give him the full season trust ! he would've been good ! even though he was supposed to be the team leader and not 2 tenths slower than a guy that beaten to a pulp by an immature frenchman !

[spring mural]

Well back to the topic of who could change teams and gain spots..

https://x.com/theathletic/status/1750530307454083428?s=46&t=WXmLg7cg6El8PcdPZJhxbg

The Athletic (@TheAthletic) on X

NEWS: Charles Leclerc has signed a Formula One contract extension with Ferrari, keeping him at the team for "several more seasons."

Leclerc, a five-time grand prix winner, was out of contract at the end of the season.

More from @LukeSmithF1 ⤵️

https://t.co/9roWB2Pk5l

Twitter · Jan 25, 2024, 2:45 PM

[somber mortar]

But at the same time there's Mick Schumacher who wants to continue but there's no seat so he's heading over to WEC for the moment

[jovial pivot]

My 2025 driver predictions
Merc ham rus
Ferrari leclerc Sainz
Redbull verstappen Perez
Mclaren Norris piastri
Aston Lance Nando
Alpine gasly ricciardo
Sauber Ocon Hulkenberg
Williams sargeant albon
Visa cashapp Lawson tsunoda
haas bearman Zhou

[spring mural]

Interesting

[snow swan]

Bet 10 bucks that Verstappen wins again

[wet sequoia]

Yeah no way only Magnussen and Bottas gets the boot, 3 minimum because last I checked (I really don’t) we have 2 F2 champions waiting on a F1 car

[mossy rose]

Nobodies taking that bet fam

[wet sequoia]

I would depending on how the first few races go

Max could get contempt being a 3 time world champion, if someone competes and pressures him he could be challenged

[slow wagon]

With a Mecachrome engine

[spring mural]

https://fxtwitter.com/decalspotters/status/1750569276606496889

[slow wagon]

I know their marketing team is in the trenches

[fair night]

How can red bull make that shit of a name

Their marketing team went down the drain

[tawny mason]

I thought you legit just copy pasted the 2024 lineup. But there’ll be more changes than that surely

[severe edge]

Mateschitz turning in his grave rn

[stiff bough]

I'd guarantee he wouldn't care

[toxic atlas]

Everyone is talking about them. Seems pretty successful to me. RB loves noise marketing

[stiff bough]

and the team is fueling it even more by saying the RB in the team name doesn't mean racing bulls 😭

[surreal meteor]

“the RB in Visa Cash App RB stands for RB” brought to you by the team behind “the h in LMDh stands for h”

[slow wagon]

I just know that social media manager is fighting for their life

[mossy axle]

Imagine having to be the Stake f1 team social media manager

uploading scavanager hunts

working for a gambling site

no amount of money would make me do that

maybe a big amount

[slow wagon]

And no one cares about them 😭

[mossy rose]

I cant imagine kick being a big sponsor bruh

Kick don't deserve that 😭

[proper sandal]

can you have 2 title sponsors or are visa and cashapp owned by the same company or something

theres more sponsor than team name

[stiff bough]

You can have as many title sponsors as you want

[clever current]

I thought visa cash app was one title sponsor

How desperate are they for money

[remote knoll]

well when u are competing in a money sport

get all the money u can

[clever current]

Aren’t they broke as well

[remote knoll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

All I know is that Yuki is gonna carry that shitbox to p7s and p6s

[south heron]

so what are we supposed to call your team then

[south heron]

don't count Ric out either

though yeah his showings last year were solid but kinda uneven

[remote knoll]

I'm a yuki fanboy

ricciardo is out of my picture

smh

[south heron]

same tbh

and I used to root for Ric until 2022

[south heron]

AT have never been broke though?

they've been owned by RB since 2006, plus their issues in the last few years aren't really down to money

moreso poor management than anything