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Humst

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I think the Porsche actually looks better... Coz the livery just has some more going on

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Here we go with full quality

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Cabin Honda

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NEIN

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SPICE SPICE BABY

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Real phat V8 hours

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The BWT Livery of the 1990's

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Ascended aero

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what

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Congrats @lean hatch, you're now on lap 20

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real Indy hours?

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Real Gurney hours

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Except for the main image, which is Mario Andretti

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I thought it was Michael in the Kraco's, unless that was later

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Something tells me that the R8R's headlights are from an Audi TT

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Name a better duo: Fast Goodwood times and twitch oversteerhttps://youtu.be/o60hOmg6Ibc

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Thats the Corolla generation of that in initial d isn't it

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ae86 toyota corolla

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the levin model

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I forgot the difference between the levin and the trueno

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The Trueno has pop up headlights

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they're extremely handsome cars

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a bit of modding and you have this

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Ah yes popups, true

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Wanna get a ride with them

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They looked so advanced for their times

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Bud Light, Castrol, Factory, JVC, Silk Cut or Suntec

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You can never go wrong with the Silk Cut Livery

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Although I really like the Suntec livery

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It looks great in Green

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thats one hot image

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The first event took place on September 21, 1957, a California Sports Car Club event. Richie Ginther and Ricardo Rodriguez won the opening day twin features for sports cars. Remarkably, Rodriguez was aged just 15 at the time and thus too young to drive on California's highways. The racing director had to obtain special permission from the highway patrol for Rodriguez to compete...

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intresting

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during 1993 i think

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since it was his last year

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and he would leave mclaren

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and that was prob before he signed for williams

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and he tested whit an indy

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whit his indeed

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iconic sponsor

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Marlboro

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thick turtle
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oh lol

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He was racing at Macau in that photo

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oh lol

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i got a question

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why is Macau gp so important?

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like

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every time i see somebody telling the entire career of someone

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around open wheel racing

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they almost everytime mention

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the Macau grand prix

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# thick turtle why is Macau gp so important?

Maybe because of the Macau GP being so demanding, considering how the Guia street circuit is very twisty, narrow, and challenging. It's either that or the rich history it holds or something.

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I don't know either tbh

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But all I know is that it's basically the crown jewel of Junior Formula Racing

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alr

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it's like the monaco grand prix

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except monaco is For F1

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(even though monaco was used for F3000, GP2, GP3, F2, and F3)

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oh lol

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i dont follow too much feeder series

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apart from

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NASCAR

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and F1

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It's one of the toughest circuits of all time

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If you lock up you are in a wall

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very much

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LIKE MONACO

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But longer and worse

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Yes

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It's like Monaco but really long and tighter I think

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it is

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you couldn't fit an f1 car in some parts

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let's hope for 2022 cars to take a big chunck of size from current ones

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that's a guess or is it official ? 😔

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@rustic helm

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That's the 2022 rulebook bruh

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ok, was just asking

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Also wdym you can't get an F1 car around it? Macau has GT3 cars around it and they're 2,050mm wide... Unless you meant the length

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I think he was talking about wideness+ length combined

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still f1 cars would be way to fast for macau imo

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it's not an issue in Monaco

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they could do a lap round it but even a hotlap would be tricky imo

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monaco is less twisty and a bit wider than macao i think

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(there are some wide places at macao but most of it is really tight)

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yes, and the problem with that isn't the speed of the cars, but their dimensions 🙂

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They can fit through Baku

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Oh wait nevermind

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most of them can

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last race just started late 70s cars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpMLOmBD_Fc

It's race day at the Monaco Historic Grand Prix and we're showing every race live! Today features cars from every era of F1 from the very first F1 races in 1950 up until the ground effect F1 era in 1980. There are also pre-war Grand Prix cars – from the era before F1 was even a thing, and sportscars celebrating the time that the Monaco Grand Pri...

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Texaco v Marlboro v Pennzoil v Target v Valvoline

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Probably

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Ganassi 1990

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Woah

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Who knew a huge ass Target logo can work so well?

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Oh wow

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That's something I've never seen before

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I thought Chip only started around the same time as Pacwest in 1993/4

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Yeah he was with Pat Patrick's racing team till '89

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then they split and he went off to form Chip Ganassi Racing

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Midpack team until they struck gold with the duo of Vasser & Zanardi

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Huh... You're right, this is 1992

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that livery looks surprisingly modern for the early 90s

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1996 jarno trulli in an opel f3 car

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Seems kinda weird seeing an F3 car with a Benetton livery

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I love it

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Jack Brabham at Indy

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Gimmie this windscreen aesthetic

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But maybe a tad taller at the front, with a lil centre beamy bit

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oooh

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is that a Ponske

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The Miller is Bobby Rahal's Lola-Honda
The other is Paul Tracy's Penske-Mercedes

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These winscreens wavy

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These are obnoxious tho

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what the fuck are the last 2

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i've got a diecast of that Mansell Lola at my parents

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They're Lola T93's

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The menards one has a Buick V6

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Yes but the aeroscreen/windscreen

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on the last 2

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golly

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looks... draggy.

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It reminds me of this tbh

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why does that exist even

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Like I understand why you would want to divert airflow from a draggy mass called a humna head

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but that just looks plain ugly and draggy

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That's the MP4/5 innit?

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Yes, the MP4/5B

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I'd have the visor height windscreen with that 2019 impact protection nipple

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You mean this nipple?

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Yeah

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Maybe a tad taller...

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Like an aeroscreen that isn't... Bulky

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(and more aerodynamic)

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...

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So not bulky?

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No bulky aeroscreens

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See actually it's about the height I'm into

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The main thickness stops at the top of the visor, and the little I assume radio spindle at the top is a bit taller

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Naaaah

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I thought that was cool when I forst saw it

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But bruh that looks cringe

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I still like the look of it even now.

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Here we go

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This windscreen the flat zone on the front, then slightly raise down height to match the bar

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I was thinking of doing something similar to the 2018 aeroscreen

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Nah

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Y'know other ideas that're totally reasonable?

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Nah

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That tub lengrh tho

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This being my favourite CART Image

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Ugh the tubs are so short...

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What's wrong? I don't really see any problems.

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Well just... The front axle centreline is so not ahead of the cockpit

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I'm used to F1 tub lengths of 1,800mm from cockpit rear to front axle

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Omg what car is that, that’s beautiful

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Isn't that like a 308 or something?

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This video is about a quite unknown Group C prototype called Sthemo SM which raced in the Group C2 class (also called Group C Junior) during 1984 and 1985. The car is powered by a BMW M88 3.5-litre straight-6 engine which is the exact same engine we can find in the famous BMW M1 ProCar. Listen to that engine screaming around Spa-Francorchams cir...

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The sound kinda reminds me of the Matra V12

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This is a Cosworth XF Moment

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Ah boog this is an XFE that doesn't belong here...

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Man those NASCARs look good

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I still like my wider tyres but augh

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Have my favourite 4 CART Images

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All Lolas oof

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I know one's a repost but shut

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Apart from a company lifeline

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RIP Lola

1958-2012

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that one is hot

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# steel geyser that one is hot

The Penske Rahal-Hogan... Lola, aka a Miller Genuine Draft Lola-Mercedes lended to Penske (in this case Emmo's one, Al Jr's was the Duracell of Raul Boesel) in a fruitless attempt to qualify for the Indy 500 in 1995

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Because I believe they had a critical setup issue that they thought they could use from this other track, I think it was Phoenix or something, and paste it into Indy's setup, when it's foundation was flawed

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Also they did a Ferrari and biased Goodyears

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and TENORAS is???

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They seem to be a Japanese Designer Clothing brand

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But I only knew about the scheme coz of Nissan

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However despite finding the Toyota also had it, I can;t find any images of the Toyota with it, oonly models

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huh.

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Also damn... Roland drove some hot cars

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Yeah

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Yeah this 93C-V is next level

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Hold on a second...

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Never knew he tested for CART

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Especially in Scott Brayton's car

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It's kinda strange just thinking that Ratzenberger and Brayton both died nearly 2 years apart from each other.

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What team is it?

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No clue

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Oh wow Scotty ran that scheme from 1991-1993

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And a slightly different one before hand

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Ahhh, dick Simon racing

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Senna in a Porsche 956

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interesting, what race was this?

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According to several sources, Senna competed in the 1984 1000km of the Nurburgring with this car

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also if we're gonna be precise, the entry name for the team in 1988 was Honda Marlboro McLaren

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guessing Honda was also a title sponsor and not just the engine supplier, but that's beyond the scope of this channel

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Woah vintage sidecars

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Bro current sidecars are so hot

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I'd love them to try the same 1,000cc engines as the senior class but alas

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what engine is this?

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I think it's the engine from the Porsche 917/30

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It be the 5.4L version of the Typ.912

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They also made an F16

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the 1998 Porsche 911 GT1 😳

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The OG 911 GT1? Nah nah nah
The GT1-98 Evo? Oiiiiyeee

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Having another version of the not... Great sounding B6's isn't fun tho

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Benetton-Lotus, huh?

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The Elise GT1....

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1981...

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Bobby Unser, Pikes Peak 1969

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Bobby Unser, James Hunt, Dan Gurney & Brett Lunger

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Was this taken at one of the old International Race of Champions events F1 did?

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It was in Riverside

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I don't know what career

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Wouldn't it be the opposite rather

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hmm maybe

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MK4 was 1967 and the Kurzheckwas 1970 iirc

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it's not a Porsche originality to have a streamlined body like that

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but both look great

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MK4 is quite sexy

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but the 917 is my love

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you definitely need earplugs for the 917

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It sounds so good 😩

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heard it live at the RB Ring

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they had many other Porsches, but this sounded the best, the Kurzschwanz

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was also the slowest obviously.

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you're one lucky guy reb

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was a nice adventure going to this race

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take the first metro at 530 to go to the train station for a train at like 7, reach Stuttgart around 9 sth, then on the road from Stuttgart to Spielberg (about 10 hours)

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with a person i had only previously talked online, first time seeing irl

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was said person vind Dammit, everything is in Europe

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Were there 919s?

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no that wasn't someone from this discord

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erm that was 2017 so i don't think there were

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ahh

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The 917 is such a brilliant car though

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it killed a series even

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Sunoco 917/30 was a beauty

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what did it kill, CanAm?

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yep

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wasn't this series dead anyway with onlyMcLaren winning

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kinda

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It also holds the official track record for Talladega, the only car to break the 220mph mark there.

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Also the 917/30 didn't really kill Can-Am

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There was also a thing called the Oil-Crisis, I dunno if you heard of it

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Nascar stock cars raced Le mans

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Yeah, that one

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where dis

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for how many years have they bought momo wheels and ghetto modified them?

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Wdym?

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indycar used to buy stock momo wheels, and cutting the top half to put the insert for the shift leds and what not

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they've stopped quite recently i was told

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Also not all of them were built with tops

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Special appearance by the Mazda MXR-01!

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Man...

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Those cars are so hot

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As much as it was a killmove

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3.5L Gr.C is just great

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i don't understand how it was a killmove, can you explain?

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basically Bernie got Max Mosley to enforce 3.5L F1 engines for the SportsCars too

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whcih drove costs wayyyyyyyyy up

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and Group C died

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mhm of course not

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So for 1990 tho delayed a bit to 1991, they just stuck an extra 100kg or so of weight on the current cars, then allowed 750kg cars with the 3.5L Engine regs found in F1 at the time

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The idea to make everyone make those instead, find out it's too expensive, then just migrate to F1 coz they already had the engines built

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Peugeot fell in the trap

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the 100kg is for the F1 cars?

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iirc they were like 515kg heavy at the time

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No for the Group C1 cars

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ah ok

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so they nerfed C1, allowed a new group that was more competitive because of that, and that also could be translated somewhat to F1

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right?

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Group C1 was 800kg, they jacked up the weight by legit adding just more rather than allowing the cars to be strengthened, turned it into C2 so the 3.5L cars would always start first

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Actual C2 was beaned to kill off any privateers

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so Peugeot spearheaded it with the 905, to lead them to be awful in F1
Jaguar went with the XJR-14 aka... the Ford HB that already existed
Toyota made their TS010 and didn't want to go to F1 anyway, so they just developed the C-V line again
Sauber-Mercedes made their F12, which for Group C cars with tunnels made it unreliable coz they had to tilt it upwards, so we ended up getting Mercedes into F1 with Ilmors that already existed
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alfa romeo was already kicked out of F1 with theirs' and went to Group C as a last resort

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do you have clues why Peugeot ended up being so bad in F1?

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They couldn't recognise their own faults

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1994 they'd pitched up with basically the same engine, from 650 to 710 or so hp

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Turns out a clutch/not-quite-flywheel assembly can't tolerate that increase without modification

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Aka Bernie and Max killed off a 6-way Constructors championship plus privateers for 1 engine and 2 names

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Hence why I don't trust the FIA/FOM's decisions on making things more competitive, and would rather the Americans write the rules

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that is

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if you don't start a civil war first

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IMSA only banded together in 2014

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and even they only have like 3 manufacturers for DPI

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also don't forget the whole CART vs IRL thing

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They can write technical regs really well tho so things actually last

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that'll be 100% a Chevrolet Stock Block of the time

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Oh it sounds gorgeous

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It would've been the 355ci Stocks at the time

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Unless they swapped it since

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What about this?

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Did they use the same?

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It says in the description of that video

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In 1988? they made them allowed up to 390CI

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To hope to use NASCAR V8 basis

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But that didn't happen

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Wait no... They went to 355 for that

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Then went to 390 to be like ayo now you can make em... Like easier

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Do people actually like that type of V12 noise?

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Like the McLaren F1/Lamborghini aventador

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ehm

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who doesn't?

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Well me

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I don't like that lower pitch howl type of V12 noise

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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higher pitch >

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If it revved at 13,800 RPM, then it would probably sound like the Mclaren MP4/6/MP4/7

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Yes, but it doesn't

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ULTRA POGGUS

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Also, the sound reminds me of the Ferrari 333SP

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Well it's the same bank angle

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Same basic setup, just larger

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The XJR's had this tone too

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But the Valkyrie goes from Zonda to 333 pretty quick

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Idk what they do with the exhaust to make an engine lost that top end resonance but... Idk for me that BMW V12 gets it wrong

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I feel like I shut this down too much

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959 DAKAR

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ok now I'm horny

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I love these

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The noise

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Spoder

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Spyder

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WHERE'S MY LMP-2000

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I wish I could've heard what the F1 and LMP spec versions of that engine were like

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What? the RS Spyders?

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... No, the Porsche Typ.980/01 V10 in 3.5, 5.0 and 5.5L specs berore finally getting production in 5.73/350 form in the Carrera GT

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I don't like the RS Spyder...

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Not as much at least

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The Porsche V10 in its F1 spec, I imagine, would sound cool.

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oooh

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ooooh

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they look like ny yellow cabs but they look hot

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Imagine if the ProMarkt logos were replaced with Benson and Hedges logos

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Yes

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choose your character

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The 7.4L 1991 XJR-12

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Ignore me taking the ballast out

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1988 XJR-9

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Didn't it win Daytona and Le mans?

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hmmm

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Rothmans Alfa GTV6? I'm astounded.

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If someone has nitro here you have:

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ಠಿ_ಠ

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Hmmmmm

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Tony Stewart?

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Oh hey so it is

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Very characteristic that design for him

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Like Home Depot in Nascar

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I thought they only had the bump in 1995

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I know, but I thought the Menards in 1996 went back to smooth covers

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Coz y'know the record went to Arie... But, not in a Menards

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Luyendyk left Menards after the 1995 season, right? webthink

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pretty sure team menard ran the bulge while they had buick engines

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Yes, but the Bulge I thought was only for 1995

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AYO WAIT

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That had some get up

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But ugh

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Hearing the IRL and IMSA Racing Auroras is next level tho

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Coz they're like... 10,300-10,700rpm 3.5-4.5L Cross-Planes

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Not-so-Lucky Strike

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Gimmie

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No

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1969 bad

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Why

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Why 1969 in particular

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Coz I prefer the two light, with slats look of the 1970 models

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And that record still stands to this day.

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That's mad

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I'd love to beat it

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Hmmm

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f l i p

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the DAMS F1 concept?

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Ye

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DAMS GD-01 Ford

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I originally thought the DAMS concept used Renault power, not Ford.

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I think I got confused then

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I have been learning now that DAMS had an F1 concept

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we have another race at the Indy Road Course

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rinse & repeat with different outcome plz

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Oop

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oop

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Heyo

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Really cool posters

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Especially the Michigan pic

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These were some very unique intros

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Wacky Indy cars

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And now some old NASCAR

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Mark Martin has had some good schemes

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Yeah in the 50s

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250cc?

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Yes, it's Carlos Lavado

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.../ Why've you put this in Classic?

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Like it does parallel CART

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Opps wrong chat

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I gotchu bruh

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Have like 255mph speeds

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Quick 😳

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The Cart Cars are the Fastest Race Cars on Earth when it comes to speed

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I love this Blue livery for the Mercs

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The Titans pogio

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CLR

Crash Landing Racer

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As driven by Erik Comas

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Ayyyy

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asphalt modifieds have changed so much

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Are those faster than cup cars

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Bruh

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What’s the point of being half open wheel and having a huge carburetor poking out the hood then

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looking cool

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at short tracks there really fucking fast

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and really fun to watch

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@spring finch my brother corrected me modifieds are faster than cup cars

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THAT’S MORE LIKE IT

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the modifieds are like 2600 pounds

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while cup cars are like 3500

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# desert valve Another SlapShoes fan i see

He puts out amazing content that’s informative and to the point. And yes, I find that comparison funny 😆. It’s also more accurate than the comparison Allen Bestwick made the describe them in Dirt To Daytona, saying they resembled a cross between a sprit car and a dragster.

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yeah love his content

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missed his weeb life

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but definitely love this phase

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idk how you even describe this kek

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and if anyone wants to appreciate the tradition of bumping

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ISMA ones are crazy

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470ci/7.7L, 1,850lb/839kg

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Either you stay under 7600rpm or you stay within the Final drive

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Mears, The Speedway, and the Chevy V8T roaring away at full chat.

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(30 years ago)

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legend this dude

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yea

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also he's the first f1 driver to wear Bridgestone boots

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Noice

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sadly his team didn't have enough sets, and he retired from the race after his tyres were done, guessing they only had like wet rubber for the race

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Who remembers this clasic

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Yes

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The Buick V6 sounds amazing in this video

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spring finch
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The doctor 😎

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ultra chad

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👌

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Why is it so stretched

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i dont think it is

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It's stretched horizontally quite a bit

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can i talk about how fucking sick the group b rally cars were? and how incredible the speed was? Like jesus

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Just for example this is nuts

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Or this

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Some of these things just looked fuckin sick.

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I'd argue Group B is the best ever group rally has ever had.

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Oh I don't think people think they're not crazy

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They were just far too crazy for the 80's

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Thats why there were several deaths, but they were something else that shouldve been a separate sport. For sure should be brought back but with just bit modernized versions!

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Oh yeah you could do it now, I'd think

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Yea, use newer cars but safer ofc.

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Its just crazy how they avoided crowds at those speeds. Ofc that one crash but yea. It could be brought back for sure.

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Very much safer

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hell

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you could even 1v1 the old and new

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Even at the time isn't... Massively dangerous
But it was perfect storm of crowds ignoring police, cars being extreme, and 80's contractual blackmail

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the cars we have had for the last year or so have been the closest to group B in spectacle so far

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in rallye?

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Also they want to go Hybrid

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Which'd nearly take it there

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i mean right now they are faster than grup b i think

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Oh yeah definitely

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But like

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Power tho

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i mean motorsport has gotten a helluva lot safer

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lets not talk about yesterday but genuinely it has

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Well Bike Riding is different imo

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yes

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hmm

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i suppose yeah now the cars are about 100 hp off

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airbags in suits, better helmets etc

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Yeah they're 380hp

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But they got Downforce now and carbon tubs and that so like

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WRC fahst

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ye

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the 380 hp mark is a couple yrs old

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back then they had cardboard tubs

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but i wouldnt expect it to be much changed

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one thing i dont get is that they dont even seem to try to make the isle of man tt any safer

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Because it's... Public roads

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i mean you still see fucking hay bales

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And it's the Isle of Man TT

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It's like the goodwood Festival for Superbike racing.

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It's not in a championship

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People just do it because it's the Isle of Man TT

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i understand that but couldnt they atleast put air fences at crash zones

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Also Hybrids will give em 100kw/134bhp and 180nm/133ft-lb

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the fact that its not in a championship doesnt matter i mean every year at it about 5 people go home in body bags

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I don't know how to say this because I don't race in it really but

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Like...

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In a way it's kinda the appeal

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Also last year it was 1

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As in 2019. Okay not great

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But less so

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2 including classic

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but 260 people have been killed since it started

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Okay the deaths themselves aren't the appeal

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like come on its

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But it's like... Everywhere

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Also it's just a banger track to watch, and I'm sure to ride

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I think that's the main thing... Sorry I'm all over the place

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obviously thats true but theres quite a few things they could do to stop the entire thing being overshadowed by people dying

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Like what?

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air fences

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i get that it will never be as safe as permanent track racing but yknow they could atleast try

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idk what an air fence is

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... Ah yes

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75 miles of random Oval tapered fencing for a weekend

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What about plasma fencing?

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Ah yes

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We don't want riders having awful injuries

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Just have them float away and fall apart like going through a Portal gate with a companion blocj

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The plasma fence idea came to me after seeing a Modern Marvels episode on Star Wars Tech, which during the segment on weapons, mentioned the possibility of deflector shields using cold plasma, which is being considered to potentially shield satellites in orbit around earth 🌍. After seeing that, I got to thinking, “Maybe this technology could be used for catch fences at racetracks.”

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What do the rest of you think?

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So they're essentially a Glass panel that doesn't break that drivers clart instead of like Grass?

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Also Ahrlyn those IMSA E36's were hot cash money

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# rustic helm How does that break anyone's fall at all doe? You'd just die for all to see rath...

First of all, it’s not glass, it’s plasma. Second, did you even read what I was suggesting it for? I swear, your question was so bad it gave half of the server brain cancer! I was talking about using a cold plasma as a catch-fence. In theory, it’s less prone to being penetrated by debris and could even stop a full car from going into the stands. If one had been there at Le Mans in 1955, those spectators who were showered in flaming wreckage might have gotten off a lot easier than they did.

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Nice... Random insults?

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I’m not the one who asked a stupid question.

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During the first round of The Ice Challenge 2021 I've recorded the Kia Rio RX Supercar built by the ex WRC driver Gigi Galli and driven by Luciano Cobbe for this occasion.
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Is that an f3000?

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European F2

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even putting aside the technological impossibilities, why do you think that would be better than traditional fencing or debris containment solutions?

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also, saying "a plasma fence might have helped at le mans in 1955" is absolutely absurd, because 1) the technology didn't, and doesn't, exist, and 2) a traditional catch fence would do the same job

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assuming you've made that as a genuine suggestion

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there are already existing solutions that can accomplish the same thing

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with the benefit being.. they actually exist

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Name those alternatives, then!

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raising the safer barrier, beefing up the cables between fence posts, raising and moving fence posts backwards, relocating spectator seating, plexiglass/ballistic windows to replace fencing etc.

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also you've completely misunderstood the behaviour of such a plasma 'shield'..

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so i dont know why you were so aggressive to the other guy

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and i'm sure you're aware of why it's a bad idea to send cars and drivers into a plasma field with temperatures of 15,000 kelvin

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B-bUt He SaId CoLd PlAsMa

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well that's not a thing for plasma 'windows' lol

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i found the paper the star wars documentary was talking about

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it would have literally zero use for debris containment at a track

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putting aside the absurd energy requirements you'd need, the constant supervision and maintenance of equipment, the space needed etc.

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assuming it's even possible, which i don't think it is

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Man was defensive immediately about a tech that doesn't exist

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plus, if tracks are shooting down options like raising the SAFER barrier and seats because of cost reasons.. what would they say to an enormous plasma 'wall'??

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i mean it's not the dumbest question in the world if it isn't your area of expertise

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but weird to just fly off the handle at someone when they're (rightfully) confused..

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anyway this was my total amateur idea towards replacing catch fencing

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which i think has been looked at occasionally

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have a semi-rigid plexiglass/plastic/whatever screen with the support posts embedded in it, running through the concrete wall and into the track surface

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Have some 3,428.8cc goodness

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Why have a screen?

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compared to the majority of current catch fences, a lot safer for cars to end up in

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with fences, cars hitting posts and digging in can cause massive damage

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Fair

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Idk why Discord makes the colour properties of this so weird

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so like.. embedded support posts in the shield itself

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so you'd have some deflection between posts, but nowhere near the amount as you'd get with a catch fence

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lots of things that make it a terrible idea though

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probably a structural nightmare as well

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Yeeeaaa

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i'd be presumptuous and say it's a safer solution than catch fencing

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but also massively more expensive, makes sound worse for spectators, hard to keep clean etc.

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and even raising the SAFER barrier by a little bit can make a big different, so there are better alternatives

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Talking of the Isle of Man TT

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I wanna do a Subaru and take something car wise around it

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the IoM doesn't have speed limits, does it?

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so you probably could on a normal day

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Well no, not national ones, only locals, and of course safe driving laws

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But I meant the circuit itself with something not so street legal

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oh right

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tbh that doesn't grab me much

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iom is a bike course, there are a lot more 'scary' tracks i'd rather do in a car

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i feel like it would just boil down to hooning it round the street in a race car

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But like

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Idk I don't seem to have the typicasm that most motorsport fans have about motorsports

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the what

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Typicism? The... Association of what certain motorsports should have being "typical" in some way

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same i guess

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I've ruined my wording here

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but instead i have no desire to drive tracks like the nordschliefe

rustic helm
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But like for example, I don't characterise IOM as a "Bike Circuit," just a circuit that needs everything tried on it

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Oh yeah Nords can like... Leave

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well i wouldn't do nords in a road car

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honestly same for most tracks actually

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Well like I just have no passion to run Nords...

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I just feel kinda lost on it, similar to modern Fuji, or how I did feel about Magny-Cours

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I wonder what series it raced in

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1991 supertourisme

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so we stopped by barber motorsports

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yes the cars are suspended in space so you can walk underneath

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wow looks great

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that's an ultra-hires shot, click '

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open original'

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random storage area

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another hires

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also, these "1:1 scale airfix" displays are beyond cool they had this plus a 250GTO and one other

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nothing to see here, move along

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@calm field bruh this is so awesome

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also I see a Porsche 914 👀

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not a very Porsche car but still rather underrated

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also a 968 too? bruh that's a obscure forgotten Porsche jackpot

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the museum is amazing

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it's actually motorcycle focused

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is it?

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wouldn't have guessed from these pics

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watch this

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my internet is being hella slow sigh

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yes he is

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it's the GOAT of moto museums

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dude's a fucking legend

calm field
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dirtbike display

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there's something like 1400 bikes and cars at the museum

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next to the track that he had built

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great place

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this is the 2nd time ive been

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everything is new or restored to as new quality

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some bikes are racked up on walls

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you ride up an elevator and they're displayed in space you view them as you go up and down

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this is high res... look deep into the photo

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plus there's a basement

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it's staggering

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good stuff

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is it paid admission?

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yeah but not expensive. if you were to look at everything you'd spend all day there

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for example, m'lady and I have no interest in antiques, so we skipped that collection of like 200

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they even have a brand new paso like mine on display. they also have one of the largest literature libraries in the world

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I think this would be the USA's equivalent of the Honda Collection Hall in a way

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it's every make and model of moto. the autos are focused primarily around Porsche and lotus

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I like the sound of that

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March 85C

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March 85C (Can-Am spec)

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(god, this looks cursed, but not as cursed as the Longhorn LR02)

rustic helm
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No Open-Wheeler for the road should be up that high

lean hatch
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Is it me or does it look a bit longer than usual?

rustic helm
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Which one?

lean hatch
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The Can-Am version

rustic helm
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I think they beefed out the wheelbase, yeah

lean hatch
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At first I thought it was one of the cars used in the Fuji GC series.

rustic helm
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Aaaaaaahhhh, maybe not...

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I think because there's just a flat side it kinda can force the eyes to see the wheels as further apart

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But I could be wrong

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Speaking of fuji gc series

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Group 6?

spring finch
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No clue lol ripped it off facebook

lean hatch
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Imagine if there was a revival series for the Fuji GC series

spring finch
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What cars would they even use, lmp2?

lean hatch
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Maybe.

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They could use something like this

spring finch
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Isn’t that an lmp2? and open cockpits have really been phased out because of safety so there’s not really a way to get that look anymore

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And if they used lmp2 there wouldn’t be much point in the series because gt500 is already as fast or faster than lmp2

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insert bruce almighty typing gif

spring finch
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The only solution is gt500 convertibles

lean hatch
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Eh, well my next best idea was for the series to use old Riley Daytona Prototypes, but that's gonna fall flat anyways.

rustic helm
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How can you tell a toyota 7 apart from all those wtf

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70 billion iq

lean hatch
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He's @rustic helm after all.

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Not the hotter ones tho

lean hatch
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RIP Sachio Fukuzawa

rustic helm
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I wish Toyota just moved that wing back

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It was still in that pre... Intergrated wing era

spring finch
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Oh my god that’s pretty

rustic helm
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Best believe it's gorgeous tho

lean hatch
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Exquisite.

spring finch
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I thought they were just a prototype that never raced but i am very glad to be wrong

rustic helm
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Unfortunately the T7 was I believe the catalyst for the Fuji Daiichi incedents

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From the front it's only beauty