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#Alien: Earth
verbal ridge
Yes.
floral kettle
Kirsch is cool af and he defo gonna decide to kill that Prodigy mfer, lol
fiery parrot
Eyeball touching was creepy
verbal ridge
I was more grossed out by the borderline grooming, lol
floral kettle
I saw it and it didn't really phase me
The xeno sperm thing burrowing into the lung in a jar 💀
fiery parrot
Ohhhh
floral kettle
Ick
fiery parrot
@verbal ridge you mean like the Morrow talking to Slightly?
Or Kid talking to Curly?
verbal ridge
Kirsch is cool af and he defo gonna decide to kill that Prodigy mfer, lol
When I was watching the premiere with friends I said that he'd better get his legs cut off before the end of the season, lol.
verbal ridge
<@141984492997836800> you mean like the Morrow talking to Slightly?
Both, lol.
fiery parrot
The Kid stuff is way more unsettling to me the Morrow stuff is weird but you can tell Morrow is trying to abuse his child mind into corporate espionage
Which I guess is fucked up too
It's funny because this really is sorta playing out as "fucked up Peter Pan"
verbal ridge
I think he's subconsciously trying to fill the fact that everyone he knows is dead and he's envious that the hybrids are more human than him from his perspective.
floral kettle
Is Morrow the first cyborg we've seen? You'd think they'd be everywhere, with how OP he is
fiery parrot
First cyborg we have seen in an Alien live action thing yeah
verbal ridge
Is Morrow the first cyborg we've seen? You'd think they'd be everywhere, with ho...
My friend who's a way bigger Alien fan than me said yes.
fiery parrot
Yeah he said something like his worst parts are human
floral kettle
Why tf aren't there more of them? You'd think the shit companies would love having badass cyborg soldiers or something
verbal ridge
It was that the human parts they left were the worst. I don't think he was talking up his cybernetics.
fiery parrot
I interpreted it as like more metaphysical
floral kettle
He said he had kids too. Also seemed to feel shitty for losing everyone on earth he'd ever known, hence him ignoring Yutani and deciding to finish his mission
Didn't Kirsch call him a cyborg?
fiery parrot
I think there is some part that cares about his past life but he definitely cares more about his own goals than his family
verbal ridge
Yeah.
Everyone can tell he's a cyborg at a glance because of his arm.
The search and rescue personnel immediately identified him before the xenomorph massacred them.
floral kettle
I thought they were just grabbing him cuz they thought he was a survivor
fiery parrot
What's interesting too is that the Ovamorph recognized him as human
A little bit of like
Interesting beat
Like even the primordial parasite recognized his humanity even though he doesn't
I think Morrow is fighting that side of himself, he is trying to hate the parts that make him human to the point where he departs of a decades long journey away from the things that make him human (family, love etc etc)
verbal ridge
I thought they were just grabbing him cuz they thought he was a survivor
They call out his cybernetics during the conversation, that's why they get on edge and have him submit to be handcuffed.
floral kettle
I still don't get why the xeno didn't maul Wendy and her brother when they were trapped in that cargo container, lol. It got way too extra with the whole "Hee hoo I'm leaving" thing 😆
fiery parrot
I think it's the signal
floral kettle
They call out his cybernetics during the conversation, that's why they get on ed...
Ah
verbal ridge
Wendy clearly has some connection to the xenomorphs somehow.
verbal ridge
I think the xenomorph is smart enough to tell that Wendy's brother is important to her.
floral kettle
Yeah I really wanna know why she can hear the little ones but not the drones
verbal ridge
There was a cryptic line in the first two episodes where her brother says their dad was the last something, but he doesn't finish the line.
So I'm thinking that might be part of it.
(hopefully it's not stupid)
fiery parrot
This is pre Nostromo
So assuming the moon is LV426 that the Maginot went to, the Maginot is the first vessel to come in contact with Xenomorph eggs
verbal ridge
Hm, what if their dad was the last survivor of whatever colony David fucked up
floral kettle
She very specifically only hears the eggs and the face hugger on the table but she didn't hear shit from the big boi, maybe because big boi did the whole chest bursting thing so its DNA isn't pure anymore?
fiery parrot
I might have to rewatch it again but I could have sworn she did hear the Drone xeno
Like she was able to track it or something?
verbal ridge
I think she did hear it in the building.
fiery parrot
Yeah
verbal ridge
Isn't that how she found the xenomorph that was about to kill her brother in the dandy's apartment?
Oh wait, no.
fiery parrot
That was Morrow
verbal ridge
It was Morrow that saved him. She just found him after he woke up.
floral kettle
I thought she heard the eggs then the xeno sensed eggs were in danger and came for her
fiery parrot
I could have sworn when Hermit was separated from her in the stairwell she was able to hear it
floral kettle
Every time she's heard the bad noise it's been the eggs, as far as I've seen
fiery parrot
I'll definitely need to look out for that
Also we do know the eggs were found on the Moon right?
verbal ridge
I don't think it's been explicitly stated.
fiery parrot
As in, no creature made them post Maginot crash
verbal ridge
But it's been implied.
fiery parrot
It's weird because they were outside of any containment
verbal ridge
They said they found it on a "far moon" or something, and this could be how Weyland-Yutani knew where to send the Nostromo.
fiery parrot
Yeah that's my theory
MUTHR sent them for LV426 because of what happened to the Maginot
verbal ridge
As in, no creature made them post Maginot crash
The ones they collected were definitely from post-crash.
The only specimens they had initially were facehuggers.
fiery parrot
So Pre crash eggs were the specimens that were on the Maginot and hatched, then the adult xeno created the ones we see
floral kettle
Their computer data mentions the life cycle of the creatures, I think Kirsch knew a bunch about them after reading the ship data
fiery parrot
Oh yeah I definitely think Weyland Yutani knew a TON before the expedition
verbal ridge
If they extracted the facehuggers from eggs on LV, it would make sense they would know that.
Especially since this was actually a science vessel, as opposed to the Nostromo.
fiery parrot
Yeah I think Weyland Yutani knows of the xeno before they did the deep space mission
Which is a cool fact
verbal ridge
IDK. You still have to wonder how they knew about it.
fiery parrot
Yeah, it's definitely an unknown
verbal ridge
I get the feeling there's some in-universe big David event that we still don't know about.
verbal ridge
Was the ship in Covenant Weyland-Yutani?
fiery parrot
It was
verbal ridge
Maybe word got back to them via that somehow.
fiery parrot
My theory would be, David infected the colony with the Xenomorph parasite
Maybe Wendys father is a survivor of that event? But I dunno that seems like a lot to throw into a show
verbal ridge
The only question would be how he'd get back to Earth.
verbal ridge
Maybe Wendys father is a survivor of that event? But I dunno that seems like a l...
They threw Prometheus stuff into Romulus, I wouldn't be surprised if it popped up here, too, even if just as background plot.
fiery parrot
"Xenomorph data CC Weyland BCC Yutani"
Yeah it's possible
What was the colony named again
verbal ridge
I just don't know why Wendy would have this xenomorph connection otherwise.
verbal ridge
Origae-6 according to Wikipedia.
fiery parrot
It would make sense if it was in her brain
Some sort of frequency she was attuned to that was present in her human brain
I dunno
verbal ridge
You'd wonder how they'd miss that assuming Prodigy would have thoroughly examined her brain prior to transferring it.
fiery parrot
When is a machine not a machine type shit
floral kettle
Did we ever see what happened to Origae and David?
verbal ridge
No.
fiery parrot
Nah
verbal ridge
They never made the third movie.
floral kettle
So like, how did David's xenos get from Origae to other planets
verbal ridge
He was super liberal with fucking with them.
In Covenant there's that scene where he just fucks up the Engineer planet.
fiery parrot
Prometheus setting fire etc
floral kettle
Is he just being a freak in a trench coat handing them out in random places? 😆
"Wanna buy a watch?"
fiery parrot
I actually think that's one of the huge problems in Covenant
verbal ridge
The LV ship means that the Engineers got a hold of some of them at some point.
fiery parrot
Did we really need more engineer shit
verbal ridge
And who knows if that was the only instance.
verbal ridge
Did we really need more engineer shit
IDK how you do a sequel to Prometheus without it, lol. It's a large part of why I hate Covenant, too.
floral kettle
Like, we know he had xenos and a ship and crew to experiment on and was headed to Origae but was there anything stopping him from heading towards the Inner Rim or whatever and Earth?
fiery parrot
I think all the Engineer stuff is reaaaaly not great
verbal ridge
I was more flabbergasted they bothered to include it in Romulus.
verbal ridge
Like, we know he had xenos and a ship and crew to experiment on and was headed t...
Just the difficulty of space travel.
And I think he liked the idea of the Covenant's populace being his guinea pigs.
floral kettle
Do either of you care if I spoil that goofy ass Alien Fireteam Elite game, lol?
verbal ridge
I don't, lol.
floral kettle
There's ||Engineer|| shit in the DLC
verbal ridge
I'm not surprised it's in EU stuff.
floral kettle
I'm more surprised there's ||engineer|| shit happening that far into the timeline, lol. It takes place after Alien 3 iirc
verbal ridge
IDK what their standards are.
I think they still assert that Colonial Marines is canon.
verbal ridge
Predator seems to have that now with Trachtenberg.
floral kettle
Idk, I just know there's black goo infected xenos in a game that takes place after Alien 3 and Weyland-Yutani of course sends soldiers to deal with it
fiery parrot
Alien, Aliens, Alien Romulus, Alien Earth. Alllll bangers
floral kettle
Idk, I just know there's black goo infected xenos in a game that takes place aft...
So if it is canon then there's defo still engineer shit fucking with things
verbal ridge
There's nothing to indicate the Engineers are completely gone, so I'm not surprised.
floral kettle
If the show ever mentions LV-895 then we'll know the game is canon, lol. It's a weird Engineer research planet that the Engineers abandoned and Weyland-Yutani found, and of course they did experiments there with xenos and funny black goo and got wiped out. Then the marines you play as in the game show up and allegedly clear the planet
floral kettle
fiery parrot
That lip thing just doesn't look great LOL
fiery parrot
So what are we thinkin
I'm thinkin this thing comes in at the final episode and eats a dude and that's it
floral kettle
Eats a xeno, lol
verbal ridge
It's gonna eat someone at exactly the wrong time.
fiery parrot
Wendy:
verbal ridge
Dude that girl saying she was pregnant just came out of fucking nowhere, lol
fiery parrot
It's clear she is rejecting the synth body and thinks her trauma is a literal creature inside of her
This plotline to me, might be the most interesting
Also, Dame said it was a Code 3, I feel like her having a protocol and a button for it implies this has happened or something similar has happened before
verbal ridge
I just think they know they're flying blind and have some half-baked protocols they think might work.
Especially since that assistant said even they don't know if they've actually transferred human consciousness or not.
(also, God the trillionaire needs to die violently before the end of the season, lol)
fiery parrot
That was her husband
verbal ridge
No, I'm talking about the big bald guy.
fiery parrot
But yeah I think it's interesting that it's like are they just copying data and killing the kids or if it's a transference
Ohhhhh
Oh the husband mentions it too
We might be having like a SOMA situation
verbal ridge
Yeah, but I thought it was a lot more telling that Kavalier's assistant was trying to suss it out by talking to the brother.
fiery parrot
Definitely
The husband seemed unsure but this guy seems a lot more deliberate
He seems almost like a martyr
verbal ridge
The husband is the only sensible character, lol.
fiery parrot
Or speaks in a way a martyr would
Oh he's definitely going to die in some way because he is sensible
verbal ridge
Sadge
fiery parrot
They really went all out on the Peter Pan stuff this episode though
Like not the Disney version, where he's this nice guy
Kavalier seemed very malicious, manipulative and almost imp like,
More of this twisted version of Peter Pan
verbal ridge
He has the combined traits of a lot of the worst billionaires.
He's very much like he's from futuristic Silicon Valley.
fiery parrot
Theres this real weird parental complex he has
verbal ridge
But yeah, I'm sure he's supposed to be the Peter Pan of the group. I assumed that's why his name is basically "Cavalier Boy."
fiery parrot
But that more ties into his fucked up idea of the Lost Boys
verbal ridge
Him seeing the brother as a nuisance, too.
fiery parrot
Yeah
Morrow is the Captain Hook
In the most literal way possible with the hand LMAO
verbal ridge
I noticed the komodo dragon, too, figure either that or the xenomorph is the crocodile, lol
fiery parrot
There was that alligator line I think Kavalier said
verbal ridge
Yeah
fiery parrot
Ill be honest the Wendy Xeno stuff
Not super interesting to me rn
I'm sure it will pay off in some way but I'm kinda like
I feel like I've seen similar story beats in other alien properties
The human becoming the defacto matriarch of the alien kinda thing
verbal ridge
I just don't know why she has it. So I can't really judge it.
The answer could easily be really stupid.
fiery parrot
Yeah but speaking of something not stupid
That fucking sheep standing up
My ass was like this
verbal ridge
I don't know where they're going with these other aliens.
The eye (I named him Seymore) is the coolest new one.
verbal ridge
Kavalier made some joke about his blood getting sucked, and we do have those ticks...
verbal ridge
Yeah, I think there's some flying ones you can see in the cages that have barely been seen.
verbal ridge
They're aliens. It's their thing
fiery parrot
I saw a quote from the guy that plays Morrow that mentioned something interesting
When he left earth, he was state of the art
But when he came back he was the equivalent to an iPhone 1 today
verbal ridge
I feel like we saw something like that with a synth in the movies.
But yeah, that's potentially interesting.
fiery parrot
Just realized that like
Nibs basically sees herself as T Ocellus
She is being inhabiting a dead thing
fiery parrot
ok that Alien suit looks cool, but like whoever is in it is fucking awful
Their movements with their hands and head look sooooo bad, I don't think they know where their own eyeliner is
runic kiln
good ep, felt like a mini Alien movie
floral kettle
New episode goes crazy, holy shit
Bruh what fucked off planets were these people going to???
So uh, I've got a bit of a logistics issue with the arm blade. He stabbed the sabatoge dude with it and didn't clean it before it went back in his arm, doesn't that mean he's got other people's blood in his arm now 🤢
The fact that there's a planet of those eyeball things is terrifying. I also wasn't expecting it to be helpful at the end, lol
fiery parrot
His whole arm is robotic tho
So I dunno if his arm is attached to his circulatory system
floral kettle
Yeah but wouldn't the inner mechanical stuff get gunked up 😆
fiery parrot
Probably like heats it up and burns off the goop!
floral kettle
I need more of the eyeball creature throwing hands with xenos, lol
What if it grabs the cyborg guy and has a round 2 fight with a xeno 👀
verbal ridge
Best episode so far.
Is it just me or does the eyeball seem smart enough that it seems like it's morally good?
Like, it tried to warn the lab lady about the breach, and it didn't kill the replacement captain, not to mention it straight-up threw hands with the xenomorph.
fiery parrot
Its definitely smart,
Maybe it had intentions that felt were threatened by escaping parasites, like
it was less about the womans survival and more about its own preservation
verbal ridge
I guess it did kill the engineer.
verbal ridge
So much for my eyeball being good a good guy theory.
fiery parrot
I like how eyeball guy is just like
Wtf is goin on with these people
He's just watching dysfunction unfold
The Xenomorph hanging and landing was so fucking cool though
My god
floral kettle
Fuck that eyeball sheep
floral kettle
Those acid bugs are gonna eat the whole fuckin lab and release everything, lol
I still wanna see what the freaky plant does
floral kettle
The Xenomorph hanging and landing was so fucking cool though
Huge fan
fiery parrot
Acid bug set up and payoff was cool
Like we see them throughout the show and we don't know what their deal is,
And then you the tray of mechanical parts and ur like hmm
floral kettle
As soon as I saw that it ate rocks I knew he was fucked, lol. God I hated that he went through the door instead of just using the working half of the food airlock system 💀
fiery parrot
Why not just like wait
Mf did not adhere to protocol lmao
I do like how we finally get Kirsh stepping over that edge of distancing himself from Prodigy
floral kettle
Yeah I'm curious what his endgame is
floral kettle
If the last episode plays the Sleep Token song that shares it's name (||Emergence||) in the credits we're gonna witness two fandoms collide in a hysterical way 😆
floral kettle
Starting the finale
floral kettle
...what the fuck was that
Oh the internet is about to eviscerate it, lol. Oof
Wait, that wasn't the finale?
Thank god
I was pissed
verbal ridge
Wait, that wasn't the finale?
No, it's eight episodes for the season.
floral kettle
Thank fuck
fiery parrot
Good episode
Gore was really great in this episode too,
I do hope they explain how she's able to communicate with the Xenos but I'm finding it less and less likely
I wonder who Boy K is getting to be the host for the Eyeball
Gotta be the Doc right?
verbal ridge
I assumed the brother.
fiery parrot
Oh yeah I guess they are being held captive by the Marines
floral kettle
I wonder who Boy K is getting to be the host for the Eyeball
Consider: He ends up being the host so he can become "the ultimate genius" or whatever
fiery parrot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCskGtGTlio 16 seconds in, if you want to go in fresh into the finale dont watch
verbal ridge
If Kavalier doesn't die in the finale we riot.
fiery parrot
Something has to happen to Prodigy City, I feel like the Xenos all gotta be wiped out, no?
Otherwise what is the purpose of the lv426 mission
verbal ridge
Apparently this isn't in the main continuity.
floral kettle
The boy genius
verbal ridge
I want his legs to get cut off.
verbal ridge
Overall pretty good, but I think some stuff kinda got lost in the finale sections.
Kinda doesn't feel like an Alien show a lot of the time.
runic kiln
this season is basically all set up
verbal ridge
I think it's worth highlighting again how the entire cast killed it throughout the season.
floral kettle
Ending was definitely a blue ball, lol
verbal ridge
I thought way more of the kids were going to die.
floral kettle
Nah, I figured Team Lost Boys had it in the bag as soon as Wendy got a damn pet Xenomorph
fiery parrot
floral kettle
Can't believe it didn't give anyone fun the suck, lol