UN-CHAT SANITIZE 'CLANKER'

[slow tree]

THIS IS BY BIG EG'S ORDER o7 o7 o7 o7 o7 o7 o7

https://tenor.com/view/gus-gif-23309277

[gentle helm]

mb

I found it derogatory

[slow tree]

I guess but until synthetics exist irl I assume we good

If the EG crashout is anything to be considered

[lost pebble]

tbh just lock in and start using milkbag

it's better imo

[rancid cradle]

Holy fuck kid its a starwars word

[final kayak]

Just dont roll the hard R

Clankah aint sanitized

[rancid cradle]

This seems childish

[gentle helm]

Bc I’m sensitive maery-chan

[gentle helm]

Holy fuck I’m killing myself

[rancid cradle]

Kids nowdays

[stoic sable]

https://tenor.com/view/this-might-be-the-worst-video-of-all-time-worst-message-worst-ever-leave-the-server-worst-gif-16690123984473040756

[molten cobalt]

bro didnt u already get in trouble once for sneaking smthng into a PR 🥶 sonion...

[thick plinth]

Naaah, Clanker is very overtly a xenophobic slur, that should absolutely not be an allowed word.

[surreal fossil]

you realize it’s literally from a children’s star wars tv show right

or am i taking bait rn 🥹

[slow tree]

I say again they're not real

like it's not real

detroit become human / star wars larp 🔥

I'm a synth main

As a human I'm calling you a clanker if you can't heal my ass and I'm in agonizing pain

[merry badger]

Synths dont really clank

Clanking is cool

Synths arent cool

[thick plinth]

negro as a word originates as just the word for the color black in Spanish.

Doesn't mean it didn't become a slur in english-speaking countries, does it ?
Clanker is in the exact same boat. Where it's from means jackshit when it's been turned into an overt slur.

[rancid cradle]

Reddit moment

[thick plinth]

Common sense moment, more like.

It's very plainly a slur.

[rancid cradle]

You clearly never worked in the millitary or held a blue collar job in your life

[thick plinth]

Where I did or did not work does not make slurs any less slurs.

[rancid cradle]

Because most places in real life dont care enough to police words from a children's cartoon

[thick plinth]

Again the origin is completely irrelevant.

It's the common usage of the word that means anything here.

[rancid cradle]

And we are supposed to be soldiers/ alien monstrosities/ downtrodden colonists

This will directly stunt the rp

Its downright infantile

Adults use meanie words

Especially those who litterarly kill for a living

[thick plinth]

You could make that argument for actual irl slurs, so my answer is that this is a RPG with rules and if you can't justify real life slurs against humans under that justification, you can't justify stuff like Clanker either.

[rancid cradle]

No im fine with naughty words

Most people who aren't terminally online really don't care

[thick plinth]

Clanker is a slur. It's an overtly derogatory term for an arguably sapient being and allowing it in skirts the line with allowing irl slurs.

[slow tree]

Okayy

[thick plinth]

It should not be allowed, period.

[slow tree]

I was afraid this was going to happen

[rancid cradle]

It was bound to happen

[slow tree]

Again, derogatory it may be, synthetics are not a real thing in real life at all, nobody is hurt by this and getting mad over it is in all cases a fool's errand, there isn't even anyone to get mad FOR

This is entirely infantile

Anyhow

[rancid cradle]

I of course agree

But its ultimately not up to us

[slow tree]

@vocal rune everchud, un-chatsan it already

[rancid cradle]

Thankfully there are still some somewhat normal people on this obscure corner of the internet

[thick plinth]

The idea of allowing characters to be overtly racist to each other, and waving the problematic nature of it away as "Synths aren't real", is fucking insane. But you do you, racist.

Or sorry, Speciist.

[rancid cradle]

spoken like a university student

[thick plinth]

Ah, you are American then, are you ?

[rancid cradle]

Oh yes totally, i love American. Number 1 country. Couldn't be from anywhere else.

Of course you are free to make your own assumptions

[thick plinth]

Oh yeah, I should have actually guessed that earlier anyways, I don't think most anyone else would ever string Military and Blue-collar job into the same sentence anyways

[slow tree]

heree we go @sharp inlet you won the raffle 🥹

[rancid cradle]

About my nationality age and background but im not American and my personal information doesn't change the strength or validity of my arguments kid

[primal carbon]

Why the fuck is clanker chatsanned?

Fix this shit

[summer crystal]

FOR THE GALATIC REPUBLIC

[primal carbon]

God I fucking hate clankers.

[summer crystal]

DIE CLANKERS

[rancid cradle]

I hate overly sensitive kids who are incapable of doing any sort of realistic roleplay

Im the sort of retard who likes to do serious job rp and I cant get that on 14 because the playerbase is so young

[thick plinth]

I love talking with overly sensitive old fucks who can't conceptualize a concept as simple as suspension of disbelief.

[primal carbon]

To end the on-going argument.

[rancid cradle]

They don't know what its like to work

Aye sir argument over sir

[dusty mirage]

Clanker is chill

[primal carbon]

Already made a statement on this exact thing.

[thick plinth]

The slippery slope feels steep as fuck with that stance, but if that's the host stance, then that's the host stance

[primal carbon]

Not really, the cliff ends right at 'don't discriminate based on real identities'.

Robots are not people and not a real human identity.

[dusty mirage]

we already had rules in place for the names

obvious stand ins for racist terms is not allowed ofc

[hollow wyvern]

Found the clanker player

[winged plover]

this was discussed like 1-2 months ago, george said the exact same things and it was decided to keep the word clanker

can we stop sneaking in prs to "fix" things that wasnt broken mistuh white?

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-breaking-bad-meme-gif-16136938605096964188

[hollow wyvern]

Kit will never lose a discussion

[winged plover]

i mean, she lost multiple discussions before it is just that she never admits fault or mistake but i digress

[winged plover]

some of these people here would melt and disappear if they were subjected to 15 minutes of browsing old internet

[hollow wyvern]

Sorry chud, Sop says they must win discussions no matter what,

[hollow wyvern]

2016-2018 discord. Fun times!

[summer crystal]

space station 13 was built by 4chan

[rancid cradle]

Fuck old internet, what these people need isn't to be exposed to obscure basket weaving internet forums. They need to know what its like to shoulder the responsibility of holding a job and supporting a family. What its like to live in the real world where you have responsibility and mom dad won't let you play video games in your bedroom until 4 am before they change your diaper

The real world doesn't function the way they think it does and they are shielded from it

[hollow wyvern]

job with out the censorship, smh.

[rancid cradle]

Let them lay asphalt for a year

[hollow wyvern]

No because asphalt is harmful to the enviorment

[winged plover]

well said, the thing is, when you got nothing to worry about in life you find things to worry and be bothered about, it had a certain name around here i can't remember at the moment but we basically call it something like a "westerner syndrome"

[hollow wyvern]

Any ways this is a truth nuke, 90% of people i interact with online are people i legitiamtely refuse to believe they participate in real life,

they exist purely to progress my larp, no way these people are real

[summer crystal]

i believe CMU has a severe case- actually, no the whole of SS14 has a severe case of westerner syndrome.

[winged plover]

when you dont really got any real worries or problems going for you you start producing problems and worries to be bothered about, things that an employed/busy person would look at for like 2 seconds before moving on

[hollow wyvern]

me watching my nation fall into political instability and a revolt as a kid, vs kyle complaigning about how his highschool isnt cool enough

[rancid cradle]

idle hands are the devil's workshop

[winged plover]

or kyle somehow attaching an insult to a imaginary alien race to IRL races and writing a whole paragraph on how you are racist and should be ashamed yourself when you probably got more people of color in your IRL friend group than him but i digress

[hollow wyvern]

"to arguably sapient species"

Since when are synthetics sapient???

they are sligtly expensive militairy hardware,

[winged plover]

the discussion just ends with synthethics not being a real race or thing

[hollow wyvern]

kyle is annoyed that they can not flick their lesbian pin and larp as signalis

[winged plover]

not talking to anyone in specific here but overall it is insane olympic mind gymnastics to somehow attach and correlate these things to IRL events and people every single time

[hollow wyvern]

This argument falls because, black people are human, synthetics are not human,

dwarf and elf racism is not racism because ELFS ARE ACTUALLY THE OTHERS,

the entire point of racism is making a certain group of people as the others when they are not, SYNTHETICS ARE THE OTHERS, SYNTHETICS ARE LITIRALLY OTHERS

people will explode if they read one media piece of 40k or any fantasy

[rancid cradle]

In space station you can dismember someone, heal them revive them then flay them while they are comming in and out of crit. Then gib them and put their brains in a hacked borg before forcing them to watch the same fate befall their friends. But calling someone a retarded because they refueled a light welder right on top of the teg destroying the only source of power requires admin intervention

[hollow wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-halo-halo-reach-gif-1074358001815667973

[rancid cradle]

The moral double standards are extraordinary. Same for servers that supposedly value quality roleplay and believable characters only to end up with 80% of the server turning antags off and never interacting outside their metacliques

Because you aren't allowed to play a believable bad guy

[hollow wyvern]

I remember when in ss13 non humans were valid, and you just had moths robusting the absolute shit of peopel because poeple who played moth and survive had to deal with countless times of being targeted,

[rancid cradle]

Notable exception is metafriending admins, then you get away with anything

[hollow wyvern]

watching a moth slam dunk 2 people was the funniest shit ever

[rancid cradle]

Only on lrp but yes the biggest upstream TG explicitly made non Humans unable to be depar heads and they were exempt from ai protection

[rancid cradle]

TG terry would kill you but things were chill on Emanuel

[hollow wyvern]

Yeah i am talking about these, i am not talkign about the roleplay part,

but it existed, IC things were dealth with IC even if it was lrp,

[rancid cradle]

Tg also had a billion antags so there was usually no time for ic stuff to get in the way

Roundstart nukies with wizards and two lings

[hollow wyvern]

I still remember the time a moth managed to change teh ai laws making every human valid, those were fun chaotic times

[rancid cradle]

Moths took detication back then

[hollow wyvern]

Honestly i was a cargonian true and true, 90% of my playtime was in lavaland

[rancid cradle]

You needed two layers of welding protection

Lavaland feels smaller now

[hollow wyvern]

On god, most non human races took detication, alot of the players i knew who played non human characters were robust as shit

[hollow wyvern]

True, alot of new stuff as well, what do you mean you can buy an lmg, or a hammer or an axe, it was fun to try them out though,

[hollow wyvern]

or well spear,

the hammer was pretty good though

[rancid cradle]

yeah miners are basically playing an entire seperate game

[hollow wyvern]

still mostly what i play, i keep disconnected from all of the drama and headachs, except the breif moments in eed to go to cargonia and find 2 people erping in the shadows,

[rancid cradle]

alot of people i know really got into mining because they were in RP servers and some days they litterarly had noone they could RP with without dying of a cringe overdose so they would just grab a miner slot or ask to be conscripted with a kit from the vendor just so that they dont have to interact with other people

[hollow wyvern]

lmaoo this exactly this

[rancid cradle]

yeah you gain nothing by engaging with the space station drama. Generally getting into prolonged arguments with NEETs only wastes your time because they are in their own lil bubble

[hollow wyvern]

only roleplay i do is with my gaurdian if i manage to find the crystal in any of the tendril chests,

[rancid cradle]

its really hard to go into a "serious rp" server and do " serious corporate job RP" with people that are terminally unemployed.

so you are genually better off either running off to lava land or doing LRP robust shit exclusively because at least the light role play crowd likes the occasional silly gimick and they set no obnoxious high rp standards that will inevitably be disregarded (except if you piss of the mins then they are very strict about them).

[hollow wyvern]

i was maining lavaland uuh, what were they called man? ashwalkers?

they have aloot of new stuff bro, atleast on monkeystation,

Smithing,

apothecary

evolutions

rituals

[rancid cradle]

yeah ashwalkers, lizardpeople with huge hands so you can only use melee. You are also immune to low pressure and have a shit load of mobs you can command

you gotta stab the miners and drag them to the eggs where they get autogibbed and more ashwalkers spawn

[hollow wyvern]

pretty sure you dont even need to do that any more just monster corpses

[rancid cradle]

but for some reason they almost never did that. Ashwalkers when i was on would gib the occasional corpse but mostly do dumb shit and fuck with miners.

[hollow wyvern]

i once started a whole skeleton key trade with miners,

[rancid cradle]

Yeah Neutral or friendly ashwalkers were suprisingly common. Some rounds they would adopt them and bring them back on the station.

i remmember a rev round where they gave them the HOP and CE to eat.

[hollow wyvern]

I mean ashwalkers as a role arent inherentily antag,

your job is to protect your tendril

[rancid cradle]

You know the best way to welcome your new neibours. Feed them your ex BOSS.

[hollow wyvern]

and sacrafice corpses to it

I would just keep getting tendril boxes crafting skeleton keys and getting neat loot,

[rancid cradle]

I find it weird when aliens dont immediately try to murder me

[hollow wyvern]

most of the times ashdrake would only target miners if the miners targeted our tendrils,

but if they fucked off and left us alone why purposfully get armed to the teeth miners targeting you

[rancid cradle]

13 may be prepetually low pop outside of ERP servers but its still a real good time

[dusty mirage]

Sneaking in PRs should be punishable, especially when it comes to removing words

[hollow wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/true-patrick-spongebob-truth-nuke-gif-15777863855591434629

Wont happen though just a slap on the wrist if that even happens

[rancid cradle]

could be worse. Could be sneaking in actual malware.

I remmember another server that sneakily swapped two admin names around. So when you got ahelped admin A showed up as admin B and vice versa

[hollow wyvern]

benefits of cargo and lavaland larp is that it doesnt effect you

[rancid cradle]

admin b threw a fit and got banned off the discord and the server over that switcharoo.

it was very funny to watch

[winged plover]

sneaky pr in the pocket

https://tenor.com/view/sneaky-golem-gif-1254356291704834542

[ionic depot]

whiny buddy award

[raw skiff]

People really out here playing the high rp robot role as humans and getting offended when they get called Clanker 💀

[winged plover]

i am pretty sure it is impossible to do serious job rp with ss14 players anyways

[rancid cradle]

three years ago it was not as hard as it is today.

and 13 of course always had an older playerbase

[winged plover]

i can already see trying to play shepherd corpsec the way a real security guard would do his job and people lose their shit because they can't just say "i talked with liaison" and pass

[rancid cradle]

it just kina started going downhill and i cant exactly put my finger on why it did.

[summer crystal]

14 has a much younger playerbase, akin to roblox teenagers finding roleplay servers and think they're hot shit at roleplaying

[rancid cradle]

Anyone armed with a hardhat, clipboard and a ladder can bypass any checkpoint

[winged plover]

first off you need paper-work, second you need liaison confirmation, third you need to leave the are within a specific time span, fourth you are not permitted entry with any sharp objects must be left behind at my desk, average ss14 player fell asleep on the first step

[hollow wyvern]

Its hrp

[rancid cradle]

three years ago i was getting really good rounds consistently both in LRP and MRP. I leave for half a year on a seasonal job and when i come back litterarly all the good players are gone im not even kidding.

[hollow wyvern]

People forget that the reason synthetics are hrp is because you need to roleplay as a synthetic not a human,

thats the point of it being hrp

[rancid cradle]

its hard to RP someone who isnt yourself

acting and improv acting at that is a skill that needs to be cultivated

[summer crystal]

i love how CM does it's wl of synthetics

[hollow wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vine-the-prophecy-is-true-flower-cat-vine-cat-prophecy-vine-gif-7043100892120968638

[summer crystal]

dude

the stories are sometimes

Top notch

[rancid cradle]

CM 13 is the only server that has remained somewhat consistent over the past decade

[hollow wyvern]

this is like a recurring core event that must happen at this point

in anything ss13 releated

[rancid cradle]

did you know way back in the day ghosts could swap the HMG fire modes?

yeah that was a bug

[winged plover]

back when i was a door to door toothpaste salesman a clipboard and duffelbag, and a fuckass random company name tag (that didnt even had my name just company name, lol) made me enter any and all buildings, i also looked neat and clean at the time with a soldier cut and no facial hair and prescription glasses so everyone immediately assumed i was a civil servant and allowed me in.

[rancid cradle]

Defcon has some great lectures about hackers doing zero hacking and just taking their way past everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsVtHqICeKE

[hollow wyvern]

had a bug that i couldnt recreate where pointing at a guy made my m2c auto target and shoot at them, even after i exited the m2c, it was peak comedy

[rancid cradle]

you missed the good old days in goonstation where the early medical system made humans containers and organs things contained in said container

now you grab a lunch tray

lunch trays pulled food off containers

organs were edible

a lunch tray would hollow you with a click

Peak coding

[hollow wyvern]

Truly what happened to goon station,

bitch gets you banned for a week for misogyny btw

[rancid cradle]

I was always a TG player but i am told overmoderation

[whole depot]

chud alert

okay no not that particular sentence

[rancid cradle]

it became an MRP+ hugbox were nothing happened on the RP servers like sylverster and heisenbee and the classic server became a frag fest

[whole depot]

bad reply bad reply

[rancid cradle]

but i wasnt there for it, work kept me busy. Banning people over the use of the word retard would be more than enough to drive off alot of the old players.

Goonstation RP servers are still kina chill but most that go there dont really do much asides from BAR RP because you dont know who's toes you are gonna step on.

i think you need to knock your byond back a few versions to play on nowdays tho so thast a bit of a hassle.

[hollow wyvern]

only ever played on CM after tg, monkeystation a bit, but i took a long break from pvp and went to pve, then i took a long break from pve and just never felt like going back i guess,

[dusty mirage]

this is beginning to get off topic

[hollow wyvern]

beginning?

[dusty mirage]

she makes a lot of the shit btw

a LOT of prodigy was made by her

uhhh

somethings for each GOVFOR

[rancid cradle]

do play some more CM 13, its still really good.

[dusty mirage]

Sneaky PRs like this without ANY approval is insane

[hollow wyvern]

Nothing will happen,

if its not this pr it will be a future one

[rancid cradle]

insane is not the right word. Certainly unprofessional however.

[hollow wyvern]

it will eventually pass, eventually,

[whole depot]

i tracked down the origin of this

this guy is responsible for most of the evil fucked up chatsan on RMC

he also wanted to remove screaming action because

hold on i'm gonna quote him on this

[winged plover]

i already said my piece about kit anyways before, no comment on her coding abilities but i do not believe she should be left alone with decisions, with a wide smile on my face, how to say, you know the projects and things people say "it was good but bad moderation decisions ruined it" this is pretty much the start of that slippery slope, am gonna set this on the table and leave it here for now.

[dusty mirage]

Lets us hear

[whole depot]

i'm looking for the PR

i was factually incorrect actually

it was for the deathgrasp emote

[dusty mirage]

Oh

[whole depot]

yeah its why you double check your sources

[jovial cove]

Changing something in a PR and not declaring it should be an instant repoban, but whoever merges PRs should probably also thoroughly examine the diffs

[whole depot]

this is not the case here. it came from upstream, so there's a likely chance it's a mistake

[primal carbon]

TLDR this was not intended and someone can fix it if they wanna make a PR.