#Transition PlatCo to XO; Add CO as WL

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tall wharf
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arctic patrol
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ight bro ur ignoring their points

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lol

tall wharf
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what is the point

rancid echo
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^

tall wharf
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that generals don't fly?

arctic patrol
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read the words bro

tall wharf
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my point is generals can fly

rancid echo
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^

arctic patrol
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reads the words and u understand

rancid echo
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^

finite ocean
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Like yeah technically air force pilots occasionally fly planes at super high ranks, that's not the point, the point is that those guys are commanding their own entire bases

main hill
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wouldn't it be fucking stupid for a Major pilot to fly your dropship in a heated engagement? Like, your pulling a Major out of your ass to deploy him as a transport pilot

finite ocean
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They aren't deployed to a warship in the frontier to ferry marines around

main hill
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risking a MAJOR, to fly.

tall wharf
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so this message is me saying there's no reason for the DP/GP attache to be higher than Major

finite ocean
shy fog
tall wharf
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Majors fly literally all the time

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LtCols fly into combat action all the time

shy fog
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tru

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but prolly as wing COs

tall wharf
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a Major attache piloting a combat transport is beyond believe it is precedential

shy fog
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or whatever they call ti in the usaf

tall wharf
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what is even the point

rancid echo
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yea they r formation commanders dude

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thats a completely different THING!!!

main hill
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with a formation, and a squad of their own.
You're literally, deploying a singular fucking guy

rancid echo
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theres a difference between being an ATTACHEE and LEADING A FORMATION!!!

finite ocean
tall wharf
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I want you all to do me a favor

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and find the message

finite ocean
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They lead entire formations of aircraft, which the DS is not

tall wharf
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where I said the GP/DP should be higher than a major

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because I feel pretty certain I never said that

grizzled valley
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no i think their point is that major is already too high i think

finite ocean
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Major is the last rank I'd expect to be in an aircraft on the front line and not leading a formation

grizzled valley
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i think they get that you mean major is cap but that major is already too high of a cap

finite ocean
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That's the limit

main hill
wanton widget
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better yet, what do pilots have to do with this feedback post

finite ocean
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And that guy wouldn't by flying a lone transport out of a destroyer

grizzled valley
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realism

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realistically truth

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we should probably move this to another discussion yo ✌️

shy fog
rancid echo
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cuz 1 guy brought it up

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so here it is

main hill
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I just don't want ranks to go up to CPT, or Major. That's not their authority. At best, they can go to First LTs.

wanton widget
rancid echo
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the conclusion to the actual topic of this thread has been already reached

tall wharf
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christ save us all

main hill
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at the end.

XOs should be 1st LTs to Cpt. and take over the operation themselves.

JOs should be jobs instead of kits.

CO will probably, eventually, someday end up as a WL'ed role to support operations.

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and oh, yeah.
Make rank-time roles BE REASONABLE.

shy fog
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ok

main hill
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my 2cent sire.

wanton widget
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real end:

XOs is role bloat

JO roles instead of kits is bloat

CO doesn't need WL, it's already held to a higher standard than our current HRP WLers

shy fog
main hill
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fire.

shy fog
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Adjutant is capped at 1, the rest are 2

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I'll add new role icons and rework kits

grizzled valley
shy fog
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so JOs will get cag

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i mean ADJ

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Once i rework rank system ADJ will get 1LT rank instead of 2LT

main hill
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at this point just make it a job, man.
So, any JOs can be Adjutant or whatever the fuck it's called?

shy fog
shy fog
grizzled valley
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what cap is JO rank actually

shy fog
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2LT into 1LT

main hill
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once they get the kit

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they get a rank increase?

shy fog
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No

main hill
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Okay, just making sure.

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I'm makign sure.

shy fog
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Right now rank increase is only by time

main hill
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cuz' holy fuck that would've been so stupid I might've just closed discord.

shy fog
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Cuz yeah kind of silly

main hill
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That's why

shy fog
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"Yeah guys im now ADJ give me 1LT"

main hill
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Job

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suggestions

shy fog
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yuh

upper forge
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Not in the aliens universe though

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Dropship is flown by a corporal in aliens 2

tall wharf
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irrelevant per Troy

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and an unbelievably stupid writing decision anyway, who wouldn't retcon that

upper forge
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Its the future dawg

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I doubt flight is nearly as hard

tall wharf
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dude they have to know avionics in atmosphere and in space

upper forge
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I’d say they’re probably more akin to tank commanders than todays pilots

tall wharf
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orbital maneuvering

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reentry maneuvering

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you can say it all you want but it doesn't change the fact that unless the vessels are piloted by synths or AI they would need an exceptionally academically skilled individual with leagues of training to use especially with combat variables

upper forge
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They’re probably heavily heavily AI assisted

tall wharf
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regardless and no evidence it would still require a competent individual with the ability to learn academic concepts which is why Officers require degrees and pilots are Officers

upper forge
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Like didn’t a bunch of kids literally fly to a space station in one of the movies

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Like its not that complex

upper forge
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For the dropship

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Like jobs sometimes go from high-skill to just skilled due to automation

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Like hell Bishop literally remote controls a dropship

tall wharf
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Officers need the authority to control their vessel and the competence to back it up regardless of how autonomous it is

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and the officer needs to be skilled enough to control their vessel themselves

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which means they need to be an accredited, prepared trained, learned officer

vernal sonnet
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Why are we arguing about this of course pilots are officers

tall wharf
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I don't even know why I am engaging you this is irrelevant

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not you anne

shy fog
upper forge
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Nice change

zinc sequoia
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Peak

marsh blade
zinc sequoia
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Chat its over

marsh blade
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nvm

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he lucked out

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unrelated

zinc sequoia
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Gg

shy fog
marsh blade
zinc sequoia
shy fog
main hill
shy fog
median timber
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Giving me maint was a horrible idea I have no idea what the fuck I’m doing.

marsh blade
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😭

median timber
marsh blade
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so sr contrib

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😔

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might just have to pay off troy

chrome reef
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if (!_jobWhitelist.IsAllowed(player, job))
return false;

    var ev = new IsJobAllowedEvent(player, job);
    RaiseLocalEvent(ref ev);
    return !ev.Cancelled;
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@marsh blade nice c# nerd

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private void OnIsJobAllowed(ref IsJobAllowedEvent ev)
{
if (!_manager.IsAllowed(ev.Player, ev.JobId))
ev.Cancelled = true;
}

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one day you’ll get it

marsh blade
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(I still have no fucking idea if it worked)

chrome reef
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See how they both use IsAllowed

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Its the same thing

marsh blade
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in my head it should of worked

chrome reef
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Isallowed(player, job) is same as isallowed(event player, event jobid)

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Hmm?

marsh blade
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o you deleted it

chrome reef
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I didnt see the comma

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I thought it read isAllowed(playerJob)

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But both are literally the same thing

marsh blade
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the issue i was tryna fix is that it doesnt check WL for gohst roles

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and i dunno why

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so i thought that vers would fix it

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i guess it just

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didnt

chrome reef
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Isallowed doesnt check whitelists

marsh blade
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13th reason

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ill do

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another pr

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fixing it

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:)

chrome reef
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Remove the one you added

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And just use the eventhandlwr

marsh blade
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why dont you do it

chrome reef
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Im doing objectives

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Shit was NASTY

marsh blade
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fair nough

chrome reef
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like we talking

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Duplication

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Dead code

marsh blade
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govfor got 16 objectives in oen round

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somehow

chrome reef
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Straight up weird fucking spaghetti

marsh blade
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how does this even happen

zinc sequoia
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Evil shit

chrome reef
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Evil fucking shit

chrome reef
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And possibly luck, it spawns minor/major/neutral objd

zinc sequoia
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How do you even cause this without completely chopping out vital parts of the code bro

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And not get errors in return

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Impressive shit

chrome reef
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Some code never runs, so thats just an easy chop

shy fog
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or is it just fucked up tabs

shy fog
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fuck yeah

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i did very silly

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i should make a proper check for any roles

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@chrome reef brother how can we make it universal

image.png
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because i feel very annoyed that its bloat code

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the original check is very straight forward but i dont think scalable

chrome reef
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I’m on mobile rn

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I’ll look tomorrow

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Dictionary<int, int> should be fine but it may move indexes and fuck shit

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String, int cant go wrong

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And how are u setting limits

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Might wanna add a field like maxGlobalVends or smt

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There’s only 1 JO vendor per map I think, u can go the lazy route, its what I was thinking just lock it on the vendor

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Cause what you’re doing is unknowingly designing a system that will be used for all vendors eventually as we want global equipment/weapons etc. Instead of varisble per vendor

shy fog
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Code works fine

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Issue is, RMC code was only for 1 type of kits, which are specs

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So i lazily copied it and adapted for JOs, removing stuff which was useless

shy fog
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And limits are global because of that

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Because code checks every vendor

chrome reef
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Yeahhhh

full aurora
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totally off topic

upper forge
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Tbh I don't really care about any of that, and you are right.

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This whole argument of pilot rank doesn't effect me at all because I don't play roles involved with it.

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At this current time.

marsh blade
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JO kits should be...

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Jobs

fallow jetty
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Different maps should have different leadership role names. Similar to whiskey outpost

tall wharf
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why?

fallow jetty
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thought it'd be cool we have a shipside base and a groundside base and whiskey outpost had different names for their roles

zenith bear
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I like it as a non whitelist

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A higher ranking roll or a divide bettwen platco and there xo would be nice

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as long as its not whitelisted it dosent matter to me.

zinc sequoia
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like UPP roles need their own titles, weyland needs more corpo titles, etc

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it would be so awesome

tall wharf
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#1512460455434649682

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potatoed is introducing rank pins which will attach like patches to uniforms and will be what displays rank, which allows for disguising but also for faction unique ranks and titles

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so CIU will be deputies, RMC will be Brits, etc

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UPP SEA is a commissar

whole quiver
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Neat

shy fog
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SEA has them but i havent figured how to add an override

chrome reef
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Platoons.yml has joboverride

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But it doesnt seem to work very well

shy fog
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It only overrides gear

chrome reef
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What, the joboverride doesnt override jobs

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Guh

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Any reason why its in test mode?

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I’ll look into fixing when I cleanup my PRs

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Ranks/chevrons, custom roles and all that wont work without it

shy fog
shy fog
chrome reef
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Alr

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Lemme just fix battlebuddy stuffs

slim void
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I'd be okey with this

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if XO gets their mateba and execution skill aswell

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thats all I can really say bout this

crystal ravine
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There’s ( imo ) no reason for this as it works fine rn

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Adding some more playtime requirements later would probably make it smoother

crystal ravine
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ASO will never be added Sonion

shy fog