Medical V2

[hidden pagoda]

i played a bit of CM

if we could have that medical here

[bitter osprey]

they will just rot

[hidden pagoda]

it would be a W

[zealous topaz]

IB’s are common enough that I would find it rarer for a dead man to NOT HAVE IB

[woeful monolith]

yeah, there's a reason why i had like

600+ hours in corpsman

[zealous topaz]

And IB will put them back in the grave in a few minutes easily

[inland hamlet]

Shrug

[hidden pagoda]

holy

[inland hamlet]

Get someone to do CPR

I dunno man

[hidden pagoda]

now you’re making me want to hop on

[inland hamlet]

Again if you’re one person treating six people

It’s going to be hard and you’re probably going to have people rot

Since that’s not optimal

[zealous topaz]

Honestly they should make death take like 300 damage

So you have more crit people

[woeful monolith]

this is called fun

[fair moon]

That sounds peak but also a pain in the ass for non medics

[zealous topaz]

Average CLF bombing victim 😭

[hidden pagoda]

mild case of death

[bitter osprey]

/ghost and go for a walk

[zealous topaz]

I love how the head is just missing

[lusty bay]

Fixable

[zealous topaz]

Can you print one with the limb printer?

[inland hamlet]

The good news is that due to a very specific injury here you don't need to worry about treating them!

😌

[fair moon]

True!!!

[zealous topaz]

Just go to the morgue and grab a head from there

That’s what I would do

[woeful monolith]

my old playtimes.

[zealous topaz]

Honestly robbing the morgue is really underrated

Like there’s so much blood

Organs

[zealous topaz]

Etc

[woeful monolith]

i loved my dogshit loadouts.

basically, if CMU's medical system was the same as CM's

I'd be blessed.

[zealous topaz]

500 surgeries 🗿

[woeful monolith]

the surgeries weren't that bad tbh

but there wasn't tiers of fractures nor bonemed roundstart.

and only doctors could fix fractures.

[zealous topaz]

Whoever designed the head IB surgery in CMU is evil

[woeful monolith]

Head IB and torso IB surgery is evil

[frail forge]

I am gonna see if I can double what epi is doing

[zealous topaz]

Yeah PLEASE

20 damage Omni heal is nothing 😭

[frail forge]

geniuenely feels so underwhelming rn

[zealous topaz]

Especially for dead people

[frail forge]

its just 20 brute

5 burn

[woeful monolith]

my only medals as corpsman.

[frail forge]

because it has to heal the burn damage caused by itself

[zealous topaz]

Oh and while you are doing that add the defib component to cardiocaine

[frail forge]

Idk we'll see

[zealous topaz]

Yeah I can contrib if it’s not fixed in like a few weeks once I’m out of classes

[woeful monolith]

@fair moon @hidden pagoda most new medics would give up

[zealous topaz]

I will have a hell of a lot more free time then

[frail forge]

I have to say even if its negative or positve its nice that the medical system gets a overhaul every 2 weeks

to rapidly test ideas

[bitter osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-eo-eoquote-chat-quote-this-guy-gif-7326053746658113800

[hidden pagoda]

6 fractures, not great, not terrible

[frail forge]

easy to revive tbh

[woeful monolith]

anyways, my conclusion. Parity or not.

Copy CM13's medical system, and keep some changes of newmed too.

We're SO close.

to perfection

I FEEL IT.

@tardy needle

[tardy needle]

IMPORT

[frail forge]

I personally just want surgery step skipping

[tardy needle]

BRAINMED

LET THE MASSES SUFFER

[woeful monolith]

surgery skipping was key to being the best medic on cm13

ngl

synthetics SHALL LEARN TO BE COMPETENT IN ALL FIELDS.
SYNTHETICS SHALL DO GHETTO SURGERY WITH TOOLS.

[ruby marsh]

ts too easy

[frail forge]

ghetto is unrobust in cmu considering it requires more time to perform the same task

[tame flint]

Surgery. I wouldn't mind if cryopods could unrot recently rotted bodies

[ruby marsh]

ive been hosting more newmed ooc classes

so hopefully that properly solves the issue

ill also be releasing a chemistry doc for yall as well

[frail forge]

just make BTK

[fair moon]

The secret is to just open your eyes and click people with the green or orange kits congrats you are a medic now

[ruby marsh]

we make MBT and KDT

[frail forge]

press 7 on numped while clicking aswell to cycle limbs

[tame flint]

Force a pair of ears on em stat

[tardy needle]

https://baystation.xyz/index.php?title=Guide_to_Medicine

start getting this 1:1

:)

[frail forge]

I can assure you mera and shi is overkill rn

[ruby marsh]

i have 750+ hours on corpsmen

this means i have no life

[ruby marsh]

it is and its very effective

hense we use it

[woeful monolith]

rmc

?

[ruby marsh]

combined

[woeful monolith]

okay, combined

so, which has the majority sire.

[tame flint]

Force a pair of ears on em STAT

[ruby marsh]

cmo doc nurse hospital corpmen here and in rmc

probably more i cant check rn

[frail forge]

you have 700 in corpsman I have a blue medal in reseach guess who's truly jobless

[ruby marsh]

i slave away in the chemistry room

[frail forge]

I click plants with radium

like a boss

[ruby marsh]

i will unleash an army of killer tomatoes on marines

[frail forge]

anyways I am thinking about

[true flame]

i'm sorry for your loss

[ruby marsh]

[frail forge]

trying to add the special tool that lets you do 3 steps?

[true flame]

i tried research and i couldnt reach the bronze medal before i killed myself

[frail forge]

cant remember that shit's name

[tardy needle]

the Incision Management System?

flexing RMC hours is unreal, do they still have like no medical code and no limbs? It's just apply trauma/burn kit and that's it

[bitter osprey]

yes

[true flame]

both of those suck by the way

you stop bleeding, inject meds and maybe get sutured by medic

[tardy needle]

[ruby marsh]

i remember i did this once. i filled one pouch
with just pure epi and then the other with gc for personal use. in my pouch i had it filled to the brim with hicap beakers filled with gc, and my large backpack was filled with janitor buckets full of gc, so armed with sutures and grafts and like ~5,000 units of GC nobody got killed

literally nobody

it was the most insane shit ever

what was more insane is medbay cranking out GC like it was nothing

[tame flint]

good thing we cant make gc now

[ruby marsh]

i think i lowk griefed bc xenos got caps when people should have died to bleeding they kept gained health because of the absurd amt of gc

[woeful monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-omniman-invincible-meme-gif-14970603868221209304

RMC medical is the state of the art system.

[tardy needle]

tg med vs rmc med

[ruby marsh]

guys make it parity with real life

pull a medical textbook

[placid nacelle]

Along with brand new players there comes new medics

[ruby marsh]

its lupus guys

[plush mica]

make it parity with real life where some people empty their bank accounts for each bandage and the other percent of people have insurance

[tame flint]

reminds me of the CF round where the admin refused to pay med and we ended up charging everyone for medical care (we made bank)

[lusty bay]

This is how private insurance happens 😭

[craggy ingot]

vapor rub
band aid
ibuprofen

next patient please

[tame flint]

black goo needs to be removed from alot of the chemical mixtures lowk

genuinely why do i need black goo to make some rp psych chem

let me feed the prisoners mind altering substances

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HH6XuWdXIAELr4X.webp

[fast monolith]

ointment gauze tramadol

[drowsy dirge]

i mean, solution is all doctors treating one patient at a time but usually more than half of the doctors dont know surgery at all and can barely fix problems beyond a ssimple revive so

and with the random riflemen running around screaming for "I NEEED BLOOOOOOOOODDDDDD!!" like a starving vampire it becomes impossible to help everyone before xenos hijack

[woeful monolith]

medical update...?

[fallen coyote]

• delimbing someone heals them, kind of stupid
• would be nice if some surgery steps could be skipped or done alternatively in case if you're in a hurry
• health analyzer UI shows body parts at 100% health even when the patient has 150 damage, like where is the damage if it's not on any of their body parts?

• body temperature

[plush mica]

because they’re supposed to be un accessible rn

LSD doesn’t do anything special because it isn’t finished yet and you still need black goo to make LSD

[bitter osprey]

no idea who is it

[marsh thistle]

xeno player

im slandering xeno players

[drowsy dirge]

i mean

of course he'll like it

after playing 2000 hours of that server where everyone is an undying homunculus on gc that keep appearing again and again unless capped deliberately with stuns and carefuld dragging

[lyric sphinx]

Thats the reason black goo is there

So you cant make it

We had one round of rmc with the rp meds

Youd walk into medbag and every doctor wss high in adhd meds

And giving them out to other people as "prescriptions"

I think if you're suffering PTSD and need medication for it, you dont pass the "fit for duty" because "all marines are fit for duty"

[craggy ingot]

genuinely a very apt way to put it

they are borderline immortal if they play decent over there

[ruby marsh]

yeah

[plush mica]

borderline what

[versed ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-immortal-invincible-angry-where-is-omniman-gif-12301134070869383990

[woeful monolith]

Medical v3 just a week away....

[frail forge]

I'm

really happy with the recent kit changes

actully

it makes dealing with crowds of death more easier

but we need to remove the high damage noob trap and make them heal brute and burn aswell imo (being unable to suture because limbs are full hp)

like anyone above 600 damage is doomed to die if they get kits used on them

or epi revive loop

by the time passive healing gets to the mthey mostly rot.

because like by the time you get to the bodies drag them to a safe place etc

[fast monolith]

chems metabolize in the dead, no? Slip em MBT and wait a bit

plus epi defib

plus kit heals and passive regen

[frail forge]

they don't

only thing that goes through is organ medicine cardio

and you know that goes through because without it the guy practically gets RRd on front.

if they have heart damage

[lyric sphinx]

Hit them

Then start suturing

Does that work

[frail forge]

it only heals the punch damage

you're doing

[woeful monolith]

so,

if anyone gets IED, they can get 1200 damage.

and they're just fucked.

[lyric sphinx]

They wanted newmed

They get attention med now

Pay attention not to kit

[drowsy dirge]

my face when we recover commander 4 minutes later an IED and a e1 corpsman clicks on all of their wounds with trauma kit and burn kit

legit sometimes i leave the whole hospital roster alone for like 5 minutes and come back to them cpr'ing and staring at a about to rot corpse with 300+ damage

[lyric sphinx]

If only we had some

Medical system

[drowsy dirge]

barely managed to save a guy with epinephrine defib spam

[lyric sphinx]

That rewarded you for using

The correct healing method..

For each, type of wound...

-# v2

[drowsy dirge]

no dont encourage chip to re-add that whole headache of a system

can we just go back to newmed1

[woeful monolith]

Can we copy cm13's medical system?

[woeful monolith]

Oh, yeah. It was me

Lol

[lyric sphinx]

You wanna go back to IB sim?

And Frac sim?

Ibmiss v2

[drowsy dirge]

i mean

i do but with less ib and fracture

i didnt really said "oh hey this much ib and fracture sucks lessen the chance and re-make the whole fucking syste with a whole seperate UI and fifty new interactions"

[lyric sphinx]

But those were pretty cool as a hideous destructor player

[craggy ingot]

honestly i like where we are now - it’s mostly idiot proof while the surgery side of things is starting to get good

granted it is ultimately following instructions on a menu

some manner of skill expression i think would be very engaging for med mains

[fair moon]

We did and it was beautiful 🥹

[craggy ingot]

I still think we could go back to a revised version of that system at some point

It’s barely more complicated than what we have now

we have TacoLite

[fair moon]

The revised system was peak

[craggy ingot]

if anything i would’ve just merged sealing and hemostatic and then left it

i just liked the added nuance of infections

opens up a door for more biological hazard style enemies

[fair moon]

I would have just removed antiseptic I never once ever had to use it

[lyric sphinx]

The thing is

The brute/ burn kits

Probably already include antiseptic

Brcause like, why would someone make a kit to deal with cuts and shit, and NOT include a desinfectant?

Make a match but dont include the wood stick

Just the head

Type thing. Yknow?

[hidden pagoda]

day four billion without PEAKmedv2

[fair moon]

True

Hms are now just glorified rifleman that can fix ibs, open pill bottles, and defib

[frail forge]

tbh

I think like we can slowly re introduce the stuff back

I would not dislike antiseptic if it wad a real thing you applied to your gloves instead of wounds

and it made you suture faster or sum shi

I was not overwhelmed by the newmed stuff I am realizing it was just they didnt had any intreating benefits likd current passive boost from brute and burn kits

every corpsman knows about kits now because its actully useful

and worth using

[inland hamlet]

I have noticed that people kind of don't play corpsman recently

It's a bit crazy

I think this weird temporary middle ground is really really rough for corpsman gameplay, i think we really need to either get to work on more medical changes or temporarily revert back to either newmed v1 or newmed v2

[frail forge]

yesterday neroid round was peak

I was able sit and do regular amount of work because we had 2 corpsman on each squad

today is ass for some reason

unsure what changed

[true flame]

i played corpsman a lot in cm13 because it was fun

i loved the surgery system and stuff.

but here it just doesnt give the same dopamine

[drowsy dirge]

can't*

can fix ibs if it is on limbs

corpsman cant fix anything on torso and ehad

eschar maybe

[placid nacelle]

Wdym? Yeah they can

[drowsy dirge]

they cant

they cant even see it

[tame flint]

medical in such a slump that im playing xeno more 💔

[woeful monolith]

I stopped playing corpsman because it isn't fun.

[placid nacelle]

I've been doing it the past week

Did they just change it last night or something

[drowsy dirge]

you sure you've been fixing fractures and ibs on chest and head?

and not limb damages?

[placid nacelle]

Limb IBs never require bone gel right

pretty sure I've fixed at least a couple chest IBs

[woeful monolith]

If somehow CMU's medical system became 1 to 1 to CM's

I'll be the happiest player out there

[drowsy dirge]

from what i remember corpsman cant even see the damage on chest and head

let alone fix it

they cant use bone setter and stuff, they can progress untill bone setter part of the surgery

[placid nacelle]

I ignore all fractures and just osteo/splint it, but I'm fairly certain I've fixed chest and head IBs the past week

[drowsy dirge]

but when they come to that they cant use the tool even if they do have it

maybe it got changed idk

[tame flint]

no (cut off their limbs)

[drowsy dirge]

i might be talking on out-dated info if it got changed recently, havent really paid attention to corpsman lately nor played it

[placid nacelle]

Yeah you get bone gel now in your surgical case too, no longer need to carry around a screwdriver

[drowsy dirge]

limb IBs do not require gel, graft, or setter

[placid nacelle]

Then I've definitely fixed IBs requiring gel

so chest ones

[drowsy dirge]

only fractures or most chest/head related surgeries require gel, graft or setter

[fair moon]

You need gel to close them

[placid nacelle]

nah limb IB you just cautery

[fair moon]

Oh for limbs yes

[fast monolith]

try fixing bones with iron rods and toolbelt, it's kinda funny

[woeful monolith]

Done that, done this...
Ghetto surgery is my favourite thing to do.

They dont suspect the cigarette close up

[fast monolith]

i need to try using wooden torches as cautery

does flamer work as cautery i wonder

[drowsy dirge]

just light them on fire completely at that point

[signal pike]

Kina weird how shipside doctors can't use chem masters

Im really used to making kd mb FN NW and IA pills before any deployment. Now i have to do with beakers and slow syringes for the mixes.

I do like however how easy it is to carry 200 trauma kits that i can assemble at any time. Almost makes me not wanna cook up drugs.

[fast monolith]

oops all eschar kind of treatment (still actively bleeding (fire does not cauterize shit))

i think people should be able to stop their bleeding on par with gauze via welders or other heat sources

shittier gauze, you might not bleed out but you sure will need some ointment afterwards

unless it's done with cautery

[signal pike]

I just wanna be able to make custom pills as doc again.

Or at least get a faster injector

[tame flint]

we can

are you trying to use the Ordinance technician ones?

the ones with engi 3 req?

[ruby ingot]

You can use chem masters if you are using the ones in medical areas

If you are trying to use the ordnance technician's chem master, no, you will not know how to use it

[lusty bay]

Yea uh

I havent played either med versions properly for myself

Actually i have on fof

It was pretty trivial to go back up to 100%

So i think i'm in agreement that we need to go back to v2

Like the simplest thing you can do is make it so marines can only heal up to 70% of their total hp

So you give medics something to do

[tame flint]

👍

rn med is just mind numbingly boring

especially since docs (who dont do anything for at least an hour on every gamemode except FoF and CF) only get to perform surgery (sometimes) and click on people with suture/graft and kits

I do like the IB change and fracture stuff, but at least in newmed v1 IBs and fractures made sure that it wasn't boring

gameplay loop for docs is

make GC (optional, but if they do, it trivializes med)
sit and do nothing for 1 hour
do a few surgeries, larva removal, and feed people GC, some meds (iron+, oxyd, etc.) w/suturing and kit spam

prefer v2 alot more compared to this