all on the wound text itself
#Medical V2
inland hamlet
brittle sand
If I want to read a 40 page report on what his wounds are and how to do that, GIVE IT TO ME IN HEALTH ANAYLZER (PIN THIS)
burnt moss
i'ma spill salt in your wound you'll be begging for it to be cleaned
hidden pagoda
If I want to read a 40 page report on what his wounds are and how to do that, GI...
they’re already working on that
😭
burnt moss
ALSO
brittle sand
burnt moss
WAAAAAT
craggy ingot
If I want to read a 40 page report on what his wounds are and how to do that, GI...
I like the reports :^)
nah but yeah this can and will be forked into a menu it’s just too much for a regular inspection
burnt moss
💔
burnt moss
HAAHA
brittle sand
I like the reports :^)
nah but yeah this can and will be forked into a menu it’...
Yeah lmao, is this just the regular shift click? If so that's a circus, because this makes someone's wounds entirely unreadable
ruby marsh
ass ideas too
craggy ingot
Yeah lmao, is this just the regular shift click? If so that's a circus, because ...
yup 😭
ruby marsh
craggy ingot
oh
i’m bald
hidden pagoda
shift click gives basic overview
burnt moss
ass ideas too
💔 not my fault i pick up lights and it say WATCH OUT.. YOU GON GET BURNT!!! then um.. nothing happens..
hidden pagoda
oh
i’m bald
gonna smack your bald head bro
craggy ingot
still though that’s colossal
burnt moss
i dead ass took off my glove
and tried
cuz like
WHAT IF I WANNA BE UM..
CLF..
AND UHM
say
PICK UP THE LIGHT
craggy ingot
here in the CLF we throw the light and stab the guard to death with a shard :^)
burnt moss
Give us the rundown now
i'll tell ya in dm then
craggy ingot
ash is actually the most competent med main i know ngl hope they make a guide or two
hidden pagoda
your IFAK literally holds everything you need
burnt moss
you did this not me
brittle sand
if it's seriously all of these words to say "suture wound" I'm gonna give the guy who wrote this newnewmed damage
inland hamlet
realistically just shorten the wound description to this
something like this
and if something is optimally treated
JUST HAVE IT SAY OPTIMALLY TREATED
brittle sand
I feel like you can condense it further
just say treated stab wound in green text
it's sure not gaping any more
hidden pagoda
just say treated stab wound in green text
nah wound depth
hidden pagoda
has an impact now
hidden pagoda
question, how so?
apparently it impacts bones and organs
inland hamlet
ah i see
hmmmmm
that is useful to know but i do think it could be a health analyzer thing
inland hamlet
optimal treatments, imo, should be kept to just inspecting for easiness
hidden pagoda
“i should use the trauma governer on my organs”
burnt moss
p sure the wound size matters
i stabbed a guy to 500 damage i patched maybe 5 times with red and deep blue and patch slightly with normal line until i couldn't.
hidden pagoda
that is useful to know but i do think it could be a health analyzer thing
how is john rifleman gonna know if he needs to visit the corpsman or not
burnt moss
the body heal by itself.
until it reach from 400 to 200
then i just defib
and i patch again
same way i did
broken bone?
works fine
stab wounds?
yup just fine
inland hamlet
how is john rifleman gonna know if he needs to visit the corpsman or not
yeah true
burnt moss
it heals on dead people
inland hamlet
its fine then
burnt moss
btw
burnt moss
it heals on dead people
keep that in mind ^
inland hamlet
its kind of unreadable to be completely fair
hidden pagoda
don’t even need to visit docs much no more
inland hamlet
like even with the simplification this is still on paper kind of
hidden pagoda
like even with the simplification this is still on paper kind of
i like ts
inland hamlet
a bit busy
burnt moss
also Gauze is going the be one of the most useful thing you'll use as a medic/HM/Field doctor
you can patch people instantly!!
burnt moss
and have healing effect
hidden pagoda
also Gauze is going the be one of the most useful thing you'll use as a medic/HM...
you also craft with gauze and a trauma kit right?
placid nacelle
like even with the simplification this is still on paper kind of
if something is already optimally treated it shouldnt even be mentioned
worthless info
inland hamlet
not worthless
hidden pagoda
i feel like we should just put this into the health analyzer
i thought the whole point of newmed2
wasnt relying on corpsmen
inland hamlet
if its optimally treated it provides passive healing, and i think it eventually disappears
placid nacelle
oh good it's optimally treated. glad I spent time reading this instead of what needs treatment
inland hamlet
oh good it's optimally treated. glad I spent time reading this instead of what n...
2 seconds
ruby marsh
sick
ruby marsh
also put it in the health analyzer
placid nacelle
2 seconds
name 1 benefit to knowing there's an optimally treated wound you can't do anything with
hidden pagoda
also put it in the health analyzer
yeah they’re also doing that
inland hamlet
name 1 benefit to knowing there's an optimally treated wound you can't do anythi...
knowing that it is providing passive healing on that wound? i dunno
its not that hard
hidden pagoda
it’s a single line of text
placid nacelle
yeah it's worthless info
hidden pagoda
read the important shit 😭
inland hamlet
just skip the green ones i trust people can understand this
placid nacelle
a single line of text x50 repeated for each limb
placid nacelle
whataboutism
burnt moss
you also craft with gauze and a trauma kit right?
Kit takes time to patch you however gauze do not take time it's instant
there is no duration on the gauze
hidden pagoda
yeah
burnt moss
it's instant healing effect and stop bleeding.
burnt moss
kit however you patch slight damage and apply healing effect and seal the bleeding in the proccess
hidden pagoda
50 gauze, 10 hemostatic, 10 burn
inland hamlet
not whataboutism
if anything, its more useful on newmed 2 because, again, optimal treatment provides passive healing and adequate treatment doesnt (iirc; it might just be less passive healing)
hidden pagoda
kit however you patch slight damage and apply healing effect and seal the bleedi...
that makes sense
hidden pagoda
not whataboutism
if anything, its more useful on newmed 2 because, again, optim...
i think the cleanup also has a factor?
placid nacelle
not whataboutism
if anything, its more useful on newmed 2 because, again, optim...
but if it's already optimally treated.....you can't do anything with that info
hidden pagoda
hence why you still wanna visit the corpsman
placid nacelle
you might as well state every single wound the marine DOESN'T have
hidden pagoda
that is all you need as HM
can’t you also craft them tho
burnt moss
hidden pagoda
o coulda sworn
inland hamlet
you might as well state every single wound the marine DOESN'T have
talking about whataboutism and then saying shit like this
lmao
burnt moss
that + the ointment of choice
inland hamlet
do you actually play medic?
inland hamlet
also
its not just an inspect thing, like shift click and bam text wall
you have to inspect wounds
im pretty sure
inland hamlet
so do you just craft kits as you're treating?
like see you need X dressing and craft it?
hidden pagoda
pretty sure
burnt moss
so is that how you make different kits
pretty much yeah you get the white kit and gauze
hidden pagoda
in the long run i think that saves on corpsman space
burnt moss
then you have all those ointments with color choice
inland hamlet
also, how do you clean wounds?
burnt moss
then you apply it to the kit or gauze
hidden pagoda
also, how do you clean wounds?
antiseptic
burnt moss
also, how do you clean wounds?
antisceptic
hidden pagoda
probably?
inland hamlet
its a bit strange it tells you what to use to treat wounds, but not how to clean them
ah i see
inland hamlet
so change "cleanup needed" to "apply antiseptic"
placid nacelle
bro said do you actually play medic then doesn't know anything about the new system 😭
hidden pagoda
what do you do about the
placid nacelle
actual peanut brain
hidden pagoda
partially closed wounds
burnt moss
if you want
hidden pagoda
just trauma kit?
inland hamlet
bro said do you actually play medic then doesn't know anything about the new sys...
yep! trying to learn the system instead of mindlessly complaining about it
anyways!
brittle sand
bro said do you actually play medic then doesn't know anything about the new sys...
we all need to stfu
inland hamlet
and trying to consolidate it too for easy of the new corpsmen
burnt moss
and they will heal naturally
placid nacelle
the only thing this fuck ass wall of next needs is optimal treatment: whatever
burnt moss
dead or alive
hidden pagoda
yep! trying to learn the system instead of mindlessly complaining about it
you could learn a thing or two tom
burnt moss
don't matter
brittle sand
so
inland hamlet
the only thing this fuck ass wall of next needs is optimal treatment: whatever
to be fair, i do think the wound does matter a bit, and if cleanup is required
but yeah
its needlessly bulky
brittle sand
where do you get the bottles, they're just in the vendors?
hidden pagoda
they need to add symbols to the
placid nacelle
where do you get the bottles, they're just in the vendors?
hidden pagoda
squares for colourblind people
placid nacelle
you can get the completed kits and all the components from the vendor yes
true flame
omg trauma foam
brittle sand
grab the gauze and leave med 🔥
placid nacelle
healing chems are now worthless so you've got more space in a way
brittle sand
surgical line, synth graft, gauze and then organ pills
placid nacelle
yeah organ pills needa go
hidden pagoda
i forgot what chems do now
placid nacelle
recovery cap increase
hidden pagoda
yeah organ pills needa go
it trivialises surgery
like
it would be fun if docs had to do more surgeries cuz
john rifleman
has brain damage
inland hamlet
i mean the new med system is just like when you're deconstructing thing as an engineer in a way
placid nacelle
i forgot what chems do now
inland hamlet
to be fair its kind of different
placid nacelle
tricord bicard kelo etc are just buns now
burnt moss
also
brittle sand
straight up, I start my procedures sometimes when I got other people to deal with by using the scoop to feed them all of the organ pills and then get to work on the bones
burnt moss
i will note that
hidden pagoda
surely it does SOMETHING other than reviving people from crit
burnt moss
if you get damaged by both brute and burn
and let's say you use a kit?
you HAVE
to treat it all
in order to heal.
inland hamlet
surely it does SOMETHING other than reviving people from crit
20 billion ODs
burnt moss
just heads up
or you will sit there and wait for healing that won't happen
since you struggle to heal
hidden pagoda
20 billion ODs
injecting the whole 30 units
burnt moss
or simply that the other wound let's say the burn wound is infected?
you treated the brute?
brittle sand
I'm sorry, epi is in the IFAK? and not inaprovaline???????
burnt moss
but you still have the burn
placid nacelle
epi yourself as the crusher charges you so you accept your fate
burnt moss
i'm sorry but EPI od isn't real
hidden pagoda
i THINK
burnt moss
if you have dex+
hidden pagoda
this might be placebo
burnt moss
it won't do jack shit
burnt moss
like
hidden pagoda
now
burnt moss
you can inject yourself with epi 50u
brittle sand
what
burnt moss
it will do at least 8 poison
burnt moss
the main damage is airloss
hidden pagoda
i was just taking no pain after slamming down an epipen
inland hamlet
i mean like
burnt moss
knowing the chemical how it normal is
if you think about it.. epi is adrenalin.. in a way
so like..
hidden pagoda
they should make it if you take too much epinephrine you fibrillate and die
tame flint
what epinephrine does
allows you to defib someone even if they arent under the threshold of 200 damage
hidden pagoda
allows you to defib someone even if they arent under the threshold of 200 damage
i mean in newmed
burnt moss
they should make it if you take too much epinephrine you fibrillate and die
that is heart break
where your heart explode
inland hamlet
uh
placid nacelle
allows you to defib someone even if they arent under the threshold of 200 damage
I don't think that's what it does
inland hamlet
not in game mind you
tame flint
epinephrine?
burnt moss
yep
hidden pagoda
not in game mind you
yeah
burnt moss
not in game
placid nacelle
It makes it so the defib heals extra damage
placid nacelle
so it just makes defibbing really fucked up people easier
brittle sand
we're talking about epi, yes, you use it when you're a tribal shaman and don't have anything else like surgical line
tame flint
It makes it so the defib heals extra damage
placid nacelle
you epi > start the defib > synth line/graft while the defib is going
burnt moss
Epi, Trico and inap is used together to revive inject.
hidden pagoda
we're talking about epi, yes, you use it when you're a tribal shaman and don't h...
aren’t all riflemen just tribal shaman with guns?
brittle sand
we're talking about epi, yes, you use it when you're a tribal shaman and don't h...
this is the lastest time I've used epi
hidden pagoda
things to think about
placid nacelle
Tricord doesnt actually do anything while they're dead
only after they're revived does it start working in their system afaik
burnt moss
ye that's the point of it i'm assuming.
the after shock
since like
you might shock them back
to 1 health
placid nacelle
eh
burnt moss
trico will clutch that shit
placid nacelle
never had that personally but I believe you
burnt moss
since like think about it
inland hamlet
i mean like
burnt moss
if we did have heart break
on your last shock
then he just dies since you were 1 hp off
kinda blows
then again
trico work the best once you get to 49 hp
it works still at any hp
however
it's at it's peak at 49 hp
brittle sand
aren’t all riflemen just tribal shaman with guns?
as tribal shaman on two occasions have I presented the younglings with a potion of bicaridine, tell them to sip it and watch them down it and I need to dylovene+inap them back to life
hidden pagoda
as tribal shaman on two occasions have I presented the younglings with a potion ...
😭
W Larps
you know a combat stimulant injector
would be peam
burnt moss
meth?
tame flint
EPHEDRINBE
tame flint
guh
burnt moss
since it's on the maps
hidden pagoda
a little bit of carfentanyl
burnt moss
you find it in colony
hidden pagoda
A VERY
burnt moss
and bring it back to the lab
burnt moss
yes
hidden pagoda
BIT
burnt moss
very very little
inland hamlet
give the privates meth, give them machetes, and send them charging into the xeno line
followed by the real people
hidden pagoda
very very little
get a faulty pen and you just die
tame flint
diphen...
tame flint
can we process xenos into drugs
burnt moss
we got arith though
tame flint
and then sill it at req
brittle sand
Just add the meth-laced chocolate they gave to the German soldiers in WW2
burnt moss
i know that lesser fruit is something that is supposed to be edable for marines...
or people in general..
brittle sand
Just add the meth-laced chocolate they gave to the German soldiers in WW2
Finally, my soldiers will perform optimally
placid nacelle
it was something like this?
on top of that honestly you could add a big letter or two like the pill bottles and injectors have, help with colorblindness as well
SE, HE, AN, etc
burnt moss
yeeee
inland hamlet
on top of that honestly you could add a big letter or two like the pill bottles ...
definitely agree here
yeah this is nice
i think it gets the same message across as the origin sprite
and as tom said we can def add some lettering for those who need it
brittle sand
where's the WW1 fork where pain damage affects are severely risen
tame flint
speaking of, what does pain even do
does it make you drop your weapon and slow you down
brittle sand
it stuns you for half a second in random intervals if it's like at max stacks
and nothing else
tame flint
huh
burnt moss
yeah this is nice
this is peak
tame flint
neat
burnt moss
lovely even
brittle sand
you should be pretty much immobile at max pain stacks tbh
inland hamlet
would need to do the same for the packs and foam
tame flint
max pain stacks should straight up just knock you unconscious
inland hamlet
but those can probably just be stripes for the foam and changing the color of the pack for the
well
pack
craggy ingot
I feel like you can condense it further
we could use hyphens to save on lines used
(wound) - (treated/untreated)
etc
burnt moss
yeeeee
inland hamlet
oh yeah the ointment
burnt moss
i feel like
having the circle
would make it different from the normal ointment
which would be nice
then again the dot in the middle is nice as it is..
mmmmm
what about uh
cap color?
inland hamlet
true
inland hamlet
all of them are distinctive enough in my opinion, as long as you add the letters too like with pill bottles as tom said
works
i do think distinguishing it as ointment with the yellow is nice
and the cap is enough to differentiate
burnt moss
so legit..
just color of each one?
and that's pretty much it..
which is hell a nice
burnt moss
LOVE IT
inland hamlet
we'll see how it looks with the other colors but i've already done the gauzes and they look fine
fair moon
Looks great
burnt moss
we'll see how it looks with the other colors but i've already done the gauzes an...
could always adjust the color a bit
since when i tried i took dirrect colors
which looked...
not great
lmaoo
hidden pagoda
symbols would be larpful too
burnt moss
idk how well it'll fit on
but maybe in text?
idk
there is only so few pixels we got space for
tall marten
Could work on the kits
burnt moss
love it
inland hamlet
oh yeah definitely
inland hamlet
as tom suggested, like they have on the pill bottles
burnt moss
should be
tall marten
Lookin good
inland hamlet
HS - hemostatic
AS - antiseptic
BR - burn
SL - sealing
CM - compression
for the uh
pill-esque text symbols if we end up going that route
anyways
got distracted from my hrp app 😔
overall
after a bit of EXTREME HESITANCY on my part regarding newmed 2, i think there's something really really good here, it just requires some polishing and rethinking in some areas
inland hamlet
I would agree for realism's sake, but I do think them being the same sprite signifies that they do the same thing as another of the same type, but just for different types of wounds
hmmm
That DOES bring up a possibility where we consolidate the ointment/kit/gauze into just one item per damage type, but that's for Chip and other newmed 2 thinkers/coders to decide upon
however if we're to keep the 3 types of wound treating for 5 different damage types
then i think we should stick to the three basic sprites
burnt moss
i feel like they should have distinct sprites
the issue about this..
if i removed all the names from this
would you be able to tell me which is which
if i were to remove the blue squares
i know you would struggle on the yellow and orange
inland hamlet
to be completely fair
burnt moss
since one of those two orange
inland hamlet
yeah
true flame
i'm saying distinct sprites
burnt moss
well the thing above is that
inland hamlet
i think having potentially 15 different distinct sprites would be a lot of work and would make things more confusing imo
again
if we consolidate down to five sprites (one physical way to heal each type of damage) i do think id agree
burnt moss
also
if you wanna think about it
the bottles.. or ointments
just hold chemical
it has to be a bottle..
tall marten
Confusing at first imo but once you learn it your brain will associate x sprite with x effect and so on
wet terrace
#spriting message this point down might be for making distinct sprites rather than just variations of a bottle
inland hamlet
The color sprites are good for "oh, this is the trauma ointment"
I think having 15 varying sprites that are all different would just prove to be more confusing
also totally forgot the basic kits
gimme a sec
i wish to reiterate i cannot recommend having 15 or potentially 17 different sprites for all of these
if we're just going to change the kit/gauze/ointment sprites and keep the colors though, that's probably fine
bitter osprey
placid nacelle
very nice
much easier to recognize at a glance
yeah distinct sprites for everything would just be harder to learn, much easier to color code them like you did
tall vault
what are the ointment variants for actually
i feel like gauze and kits do the job already since gauze and kits have burn treating variants
are they like middle ground of the gauze and kits
actually i should probably just try it out
oh i cant use them
woeful monolith
placeholder sprites.
tall vault
yea yea i get that i just call them ointments because of sprite + their names are all different
i don't know what term to use as an umbrella for em
compound bottles idk
placid nacelle
what are the ointment variants for actually
i feel like gauze and kits do the jo...
they're crafting materials you combine with base gauze and kits
tall vault
they're crafting materials you combine with base gauze and kits
AH I SEE
placid nacelle
you can carry more crafting materials than you can finished kits and gauze
tall vault
well that's pretty cool
i thought it was like middle ground of the two but yea that makes more sense don't it
neat
next mesa
i wish to reiterate i cannot recommend having 15 or potentially 17 different spr...
colorblind people
weary drum
colorblind people
I'm colorblind and I've got no issues with it rn
inland hamlet
colorblind people
This is why I recommended having the lettering that the pill bottles have
Once again I’m fine with completely unique sprites if we had less actual items but there’s like 17
sudden zodiac
Honestly at this point we should add in a cool surgery UI.
Fuck up getting a fragment out? BEEEEP
Have a vein scanner, bone scanner etc that you drag over the body to see what's going on inside 😎
frail forge
ACE medical 1 to 1
hidden pagoda
Have a vein scanner, bone scanner etc that you drag over the body to see what's ...
led ex in CMU 🥹
ruby marsh
ACE medical 1 to 1
oh my fucking god bro
dont even
ive seen videos of ace medical in depth be 1 hour long
frail forge
IT TAKES
5 MINUTES IN PRACTICE
TO UNDERSTAND IT
you go ASK SOMEONE INGAME
(how newmed
you get it explained in like 2 SECONDS
they just have to BUFF the passive healing alot more then it's geniuenely
a peak addition
also alt click inspect should be lot more faster imo
craggy ingot
ACE medical 1 to 1
its actually crazy how much people act like ace medical is complicated
ace is the merciful one
once you get it its not rocket science and you even tangentially know some vague combat first aid procedures
frail forge
ACE'S FUCKING MODS
are complicated!
because they are like NEUROTRAUMA being added to barotrauma medical
but base ACE is easy and FUN
Ace is GOAL is to let troopers heal themselves aswell so you don't have to go to medic all the time!
true flame
its actually crazy how much people act like ace medical is complicated
yea ummmm
placid nacelle
TO UNDERSTAND IT
If it says MASSIVE BURNS but the burn trauma dressing isn't doing anything, does that mean it requires surgery or what
crisp swallow
If it says MASSIVE BURNS but the burn trauma dressing isn't doing anything, does...
did use alt click on the person
and check what it was
placid nacelle
I shift click to inspect
frail forge
alt click has a diffrent medical inspect now
placid nacelle
Ah
placid nacelle
Also often I'd patch everything up with the correct kit but they'd still be at like 50% health with a ton of brute damage, I guess at that point you have to wait for passive healing or give them bicard?
crisp swallow
Also often I'd patch everything up with the correct kit but they'd still be at l...
You probably missed something
Once you apply optimal treatments, they passive heal that remaining health
if you want you can use surgical lining to fix their limbs faster
and then have them leave
placid nacelle
if you want you can use surgical lining to fix their limbs faster
Yeah I was trying that but it wasn't letting me, I must've missed something
Try another round with alt clicking this time
Shift clicking also gave me info about their wounds and whether they were treated so I was going off that
crisp swallow
Yeah I was trying that but it wasn't letting me, I must've missed something
Surgical linings job is to fix limbs to full health
If there are existing wounds which are not optimally healed
which you check with alt click
Those reduce the limbs max health
placid nacelle
And if, say, they have both bullet wounds and burn wounds, and I use the burn kit on them, I'm assuming it'll auto target the burn wounds first instead of sub-optimally treating the bullet ones as well
crisp swallow
And if, say, they have both bullet wounds and burn wounds, and I use the burn ki...
Since it has 2 fixes per use yes
woeful monolith
alt-click should be instant
crisp swallow
Im changing it rn
mint jay
newmed ass revert it
crisp swallow
alt click will be instant for medics
mint jay
👎
fair moon
alt click will be instant for medics
placid nacelle
the current ship's corpsman med vendors had none of the new crafting supplies
pictured is every corpsman in medical discussing how this new system works
woeful monolith
medical pouch is STILL inferior to the IFAK btw.
Okay, so.
You get "normal" gels.
And get other gels.
Red
Blue
Yellow
Orange
Green
You use the multi-colour gels to combine with the normal gel to make a bandage suited for that injury.
It heals up to a certain point, then you gotta use structure or pills to heal the rest.
crisp swallow
medical pouch is STILL inferior to the IFAK btw.
its the same amount of slots nwo
woeful monolith
its the same amount of slots nwo
the medical pouch can't hold splints
take a look at what the IFAK can hold, and what the normal medical pouch can't.
also, it's using the wrong sprite. The medical pouch. It's supposed to be the longer fatter one.
broken niche
@crisp swallow You can remove all organs from people and it doesnt affect them
placid nacelle
waow
placid nacelle
I think my main feedback after putting in more corpsman rounds(other than just please change it back to oldnewmed) is:
The alt examine text is way too cluttered with unnecessary information.
Crafting is just unfun. I get the concept you're going for of being a gauze dispesnary for your riflemen but I just don't want to do that. It'd be more acceptable if there weren't 5 different types but it's just a bunch of clutter and tedium in the inventory of managing crafting materials.
Like does sealing and hemostatic *really * have to be two different things?
It feels like bloat rather than adding anything engaging or meaningful or, dare I say it, fun to the game. Having to carry a bunch of different kinds of trauma kits sure whatever I don't love it but it's manageable, except it's so inefficient compared to carrying the materials
crisp swallow
the problem is
every game is relied on the medics
they die
the game is dead
i need a reliable way to offload the medics importance
to something else
without introducing workarounds like how general cure was
peak forum
Personally I very much like the new changes. Makes it not that complicated but still overly engaging if you are going for the crafting strategy to have much much more medical items on you.
I do have mixed feeling about not needing to rely on any kind of chemicals really. It's like they became.. useless a bit? Though I am certain they still have their use as a some sort of a combat stimulant now: to heal damage as you go. But that's niche now.
After some rounds as a doctor that is what I felt from the new newmed. I didn't get to play as a corpsman yet. I assume the point of the gauzes is to act as instant 1 ingredient per use heal item instead of using the 2 ingredients of the appropriate dressing with the corpsman skill?
crisp swallow
Gauze is to be given to rifleman kind of deal
Trauma kits to be a thing for corpsman
to heal faster and waste less
fair moon
Ok first distress of new med it is so much better we just need an instant alt + left click
frail forge
I think alt click is intentionally slow
peak forum
Also I think alt click is not THAT bad.
peak forum
You can pretty much deduce what you need by just doing the good ol' inspection and maybe using the health analyzer.
placid nacelle
I think alt click is intentionally slow
They said they're making the alt click instant for medics
placid nacelle
Deep burns
use burn trauma kit
doesnt work
frail forge
Idk I'm already too used to health analyzer scan to see which one
placid nacelle
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woeful monolith
Idk I'm already too used to health analyzer scan to see which one
Scanner feels more redundant
peak forum
Btw yes ^ what's the point of the scanner now aside from checking organ damage
if we have alt click now
placid nacelle
to check it then overdose a patient anyway because another medic dosed them
crisp swallow
I tihnk im gonna rebrand the scanner
to something else
and chemical
into just stimulants
placid nacelle
could make the scanner show all the new stuff so i dont have to keep alt clicking
versed ruin
Trauma kits to be a thing for corpsman
Seems to me that gauzes are just better
Kits stack to 6 from when I was on local host and they have doafter
Unlike gauzes stack of 10 and instant
Either way the biggest thing is that storages are way to limited if you expect corpsman to carry all this
Especially synths, they get no medical kits or synth vend
tall marten
I think the scanner showing the V2 stuff would be ideal. The UI stays up even if you click on something else which is really nice
tall marten
Maybe it like a toggle on the scanner so you can choose which mode you're scanning in
placid nacelle
6 dressings a stack kind of nuts considering a stack of packed dressing and whatever powder makes 25, way too big a disparity trying to force crafting on the medic
rename corpsman to craftsman
crisp swallow
this is tacomed now
your rifleman are hungry for the red taco
quickly whip out your gauze and add the hot sauce
and feed it to him
or he will die
stray patio
we can get more uses in the new brute kits + antiseptic? one corpsman can't keep a continuous healing on the WHOLE team
not like if it were suture or synthgraft
but 15 or 20 uses
instead of 6
crisp swallow
a rifleman can have like at worst 3x6 wounds on him
stray patio
that makes it more usable until you reach colony medical for a resupply or a return to OFB
crisp swallow
but thats rare
stray patio
but thats rare
the damage from xenos and FF is collosal
in the UPP test today i saw medics running out of supplies + the synth too and instead of resupply shipside they were defending fob
placid nacelle
my riflemen yearn for me to spoonfeed them they ain't gonna read what dressing to apply themselves
crisp swallow
Give it time
Riflemans basic kit already gives them enough bandages to stop bleedings
TQ for arterial bleeds
10 gauzes for bullet and burn wounds
tredamol for pain
placid nacelle
great so they're not relying on medics as much as you hoped and we can up the stack size of trauma kits that only corpsman can use
stray patio
including this i also got a reccomendation for the first aid autoinyector
it should carry slightly more meds 20-25 units if we want a "lifesaver"
but instead of 15 tricord in would be 15 tricord + 5 tramadol and if is 25 units could be 15 trico, 5 tram, 1 dexalin/kelo/bica/dylo/iron
and thinking on it MAY be too much or straight up useless i recall there was black goo mix as a use of too many chems + you weren't able to get more than 3 chems working in you
so a 25 U first aid inyector with 15 T, 5 Tramadol, 5 iron would be lowkey the best thing to have around
@crisp swallow also the inyectors DONT refill in the chem machines of the ship/colony, they are non rechargable
fair moon
How are you guys running out of room for the new meds
faint minnow
I want to say that im not a huge fan of how the bandages/sprays work, it seems to just add a ton more crap you need to carry around, ontop of now needing to memorize where 50 different things go for seemingly no other reason then to make it more complicated
^ I wish it was possible to select a custom loadout for your bags each time you get them from a vendor
frail forge
can my medical bag
remember where the things I placed is
so even if I pick up stuff and put it back it's still in same order
and does not look cluttery
that would like remove all my problems
of inventory management
also Chip
Ghetto surgery knife does not work on eschar
you need a scalp or burn kit for it no matter what apparently
we need a ghetto variant of the bone graft aswell
and organ clamp
wirecutters might be peak for organ clamp
and the system that lets you continue surgeries by starting the next one with correct tool does not function if you're doing a ghetto surgery.
ruby marsh
wirecutters might be peak for organ clamp
wirecutters are cutters
will cut an organ not clamp it
frail forge
idk bro when I heard the boot knife making the bone saw sound
it ended there
Its for "ghetto" stuff anyway since wirecutters arent used in anything so far having them for organ clamp might be fun
fair moon
Alright I finally finished my Chip Med Guide https://medal.tv/games/space-station-14/clips/mQucbImEcC9d1iGRQ?invite=cr-MSxlNEIsMTk3OTI0NTM3&v=287
weary drum
Alright I finally finished my Chip Med Guide https://medal.tv/games/space-statio...
This is beautiful.
ruby marsh
Alright I finally finished my Chip Med Guide https://medal.tv/games/space-statio...
its pronounced core-man
true flame
its pronounced core-man
because they're the core of the squad
modest hill
Alright I finally finished my Chip Med Guide https://medal.tv/games/space-statio...
I hope you have the greatest poop of your life my man
fair moon
Corpsman because they have to deal with the corpses 
inland hamlet
its pronounced core-man
tell that to that one stupid ass corpsman shout voiceline
😔
inland hamlet
Alright I finally finished my Chip Med Guide https://medal.tv/games/space-statio...
Is there any actual difference between the kits and the gauze for healing by the way?
placid nacelle
Gauze stacks 10, works instantly on one wound, and can be used by anyone
Kits stacks 6, works slower but on two wounds at a time, and can only be used with medical training
to my knowledge
Also added a tweezer tool for corpsman that takes out all shrapnel fragments one after another fairly fast with a left click, so we don't have to use our boot knife on riflemen that don't know the mechanics yet
Please and thank you
inland hamlet
Also added a tweezer tool for corpsman that takes out all shrapnel fragments one...
@crisp swallow I do think this is a good idea and more conceptually/atmospherically fitting ^
Tweezers as makeshift hemostats.. 🥹
fair moon
Is there any actual difference between the kits and the gauze for healing by the...
There are supposed to be wound sizes I’m not sure if it’s working right now I’ll do more testing later. Gauze only heals 1 so you would theoretically need 4 gauze to treat a massive round while trauma kits heals 2 so you would only need 2 kits. If you only craft gauzes you will fly through your meds
drowsy dirge
tell that to that one stupid ass corpsman shout voiceline
i am pretty sure there is also one where it screams "CORE-MAN! I AM HIT/HURT!"
true flame
i am pretty sure there is also one where it screams "CORE-MAN! I AM HIT/HURT!"
straight up just says "HIT OR HURT"?
drowsy dirge
no i am just not sure which one it said
but considering its a marine line its probably "HIT"
crisp swallow
There are supposed to be wound sizes I’m not sure if it’s working right now I’ll...
i disabled it
modest hill
Hello, I just encountered some problems on Barker's CF, we had a dude that had 360 brute and we did all we can but we couldn't get it to go lower, the problem is we didn't have epi nor a vendor
modest hill
Hello, I just encountered some problems on Barker's CF, we had a dude that had 3...
We even tried to fix the frac
It didn't help
frail forge
did you treated the wound with proper dressings?
modest hill
We only had synth line, graft and kits the normal ones
frail forge
yikes...
modest hill
Yeah
frail forge
blame barkers
modest hill
Is there a place to report this problem?
next mesa
#1489944718522585139
modest hill
Thanks
ruby marsh
@crisp swallow
the new injuries aren’t treatable by the autodoc
crisp swallow
damn got it
hidden pagoda
you can no longer see fractures with shift click
this is
mildly annoying
when trying to figure out what to splint
tropic delta
Pressing Z to use a kit on yourself doesn't work, you have to click on yourself.
The bone break sound seems to play on low health instead of actually when you break a bone
Trauma / burn kits seem insanely strong now.
crisp swallow
1st one is fixed now
2nd one is cause of hairline fractures, they heal pretty fast
3rd one is kind of intended
severe injuries like organ damage are now more common
tropic delta
Oh well then I got fractures when overdosing for some reason
crisp swallow
Oh well then I got fractures when overdosing for some reason
what the fuck
lmao
on what?
frail forge
Peak?
crisp swallow
great
shy tartan
shy tartan
great
Is this intended to work
in my lifesaver bag (the big one on belt slot) I just give people one of every pill (and I carry every single fucking pill)
And it just works
crisp swallow
what the fuck
shy tartan
Yeah it basically just heals anything that doesn’t require surgery
crisp swallow
probably will get nerfed
shy tartan
and since polls metobalize in dead people
shy tartan
definition of “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”
shy tartan
with this medical system now
this has been my #1 way of treating people
you wanna know the best way to fix it
lower the bloodstream temp capacity
Basically when you take a poll it goes into BS-T which has a cap of 25u, and it takes time before it goes into actually BS
so I have to wait for like 12 seconds after giving 5 pills for the BS-T to empty
Then I can finish
tame flint
i havent gotten a chance to properly try the new med changes after the revert, but I assume its a bit like newmed v1 + bits of v2?
frail forge
I mean you utilize your meds
your sutures
your surgery tools
and the kits because they can be given to corpsman
but yeah it's way simpler
the sharpnel is fun I guess but It caused IB + commun fracture when removed which I don't fucking understand HOW
tame flint
newmed v2 won the vote too
so idk why it got reverted
people just needed to get accomodated to it
now hoping for a hopefully more in-depth med again 🙏
crisp swallow
this is temporary
until i can come up something else
that doesn't cause the average 1 or 2 time player to rage quit for no reason
other then
not reading
hidden pagoda
W
craggy ingot
that doesn't cause the average 1 or 2 time player to rage quit for no reason
lowk you cannot avoid this people will always negatively react to change
especially coming from chemslop med where there’s not really any consequences to getting hurt
it’s a large culture shock and people also just don’t read
tame flint
👍
I like chems and all (biased), but yeah, I think people just got intimidated by the mega-long med vendor lol
ruby marsh
i think just put a fuck ton of packing gauze and the ointments
placid nacelle
We hate reading here
I think a default loadout could've helped. Like have one of the medical belts from the vendor already come filled with a set of the crafting stuff and some of the most commonly used meds. We already have the green "Recommended for new players" stuff in the vendors, could've been one of those
And if you're an experienced medic you just take the empty belt instead to make your own loadout
fair moon
Medic is too simple and not fun anymore whatever it was last night was a good in-between
stable star
newmed v2 won the vote too
Won isn’t exactly right it was basically a 50%/50% split which isn’t good for such a large change
It won by a margin of like 5%
zealous topaz
especially coming from chemslop med where there’s not really any consequences to...
Yeah it’s not the best, but fucking anything is an upgrade over the med where the doctors spend 10 mins at the beginning of every round making the cure to everything and then retire
placid nacelle
What do we call this, newmedv3? v1.5? Anyway waiting for meds to metabolize in dead people with 400 brute before you can defib them feels weird
dusky hemlock
2.5
stable star
V2 Redux Unlimited Ultra
tame flint
V2 "Diet" edition
dusky hemlock
V2 Lite
fair moon
Won isn’t exactly right it was basically a 50%/50% split which isn’t good for su...
Chipmed V2 still Won tbf it should have been a vote for people who play medical classes intead of everyone
tame flint
right
fair moon
Like no offense to non medical players but I dont care what John RFN thinks
We will keep you healed up regardless
stable star
Chipmed V2 still Won tbf it should have been a vote for people who play medical ...
Not really though? Medical effects everyone
fair moon
Yes RFN figured out how to heal themselves enough and the medics fully healed them
people just hate relearning new things
Medical went from something actually enjoyable and interesting to "put the square in the square hole" because the non medics dont understand or care to learn it which is fine
stable star
At the end of the day the non-medics are the majority
I play CT but I don’t really think my experience is more important
placid nacelle
And one of the whole points of newmedv2 was offloading the importance of medics as Chip himself said
so riflemen carrying around gauzes or getting dispensed gauzes by the corpsman was definitely a major part of it
as a corpsman I don't think it'd be fair to exclude riflemen from the vote
stable star
It’d be like reworking cades but only CTs can vote on it
Despite rifleman also making cades
fair moon
And one of the whole points of newmedv2 was offloading the importance of medics ...
It did that very well literally all you needed as a RFN was hemo and sealing gauze
fair moon
It’d be like reworking cades but only CTs can vote on it
Bro you and I both know the only people making cades are us CTS players
unless its wooden and they found it on the ground
stable star
Nah I get bravo rifleman making metal cades and wiring for me pretty often
fair moon
So the people who just sit in fob and do nothing
stable star
Bravo is life bruh
fair moon
yeah they are bored out of their mind
but yes the people who play CT should have a say on CT gameplay
I do agree with you on wiring but thats the same as filling sandbags
just basic labor
fair moon
right
lyric sphinx
Theres no way peeps complained that much
fair moon
the low majority did
stable star
I haven’t played enough with it to form a opinion
But V2 before was mass clutter
For the sake of clutter
tame flint
Theres no way peeps complained that much
its okay chip said that this is just a placeholder until he figures out something better
lyric sphinx
its okay chip said that this is just a placeholder until he figures out somethin...
Yeah but yknow
I wanted to play color mattching on my weekend
Where is my funny color matching
Because john marine couldnt figure out he had to click himself to use a bandage
They got this easy man, should see hideous destructor med mod
fair moon
I haven’t played enough with it to form a opinion
you literally called it pointless bloat but havent tried it yet...
calm flame
I much prefer the V2 than what we have now, it’s so soul and also
FINALLY MEDICS ARE NEEDED
(Surgery did that but yk)
stable star
you literally called it pointless bloat but havent tried it yet...
I was saying I haven’t tried the rework
That just happened
fair moon
ah
lyric sphinx
I liked it but it couldve used sone grouping of specific meds
But wow i did not expect this
fair moon
it depends if you can figure out the systems in that one round
tame flint
Where is my funny color matching
🥹 they took out my color matching and shot it 😭
fair moon
I never used anto septic ever and I was constantly healing so it was really just learn 4 different colors
stable star
I don’t play medical so my opinion will take more rounds to form
Now give us complez synth repair
18 components
lyric sphinx
I never used anto septic ever and I was constantly healing so it was really just...
Look if the people REALLY need it dumbed down
Just
bandage wound
Use antiseptic
And that partial heals the wound
And if you want a better heal, you need a corpsman
It cant be THAT bad right?
fair moon
I made a 5 minute video guide and instead of watching and seeing how easy it was people just complained
people just hate learning new things
except for medic players
lyric sphinx
Like sure i can see being bloat v2
fair moon
every medic player i ran into enjoyed it
lyric sphinx
every medic player i ran into enjoyed it
It was overwhelming at the start but i got into it
ALSO THESE FUCKERS GOT IT EASY
placid nacelle
every medic player i ran into enjoyed it
you also ignore every medic player that says they don't like it
and write them off as not having learned it
stable star
I made a 5 minute video guide and instead of watching and seeing how easy it was...
Too long
lyric sphinx
Them never played hideous destructor trauma mod
lyric sphinx
and write them off as not having learned it
Yes
stable star
Need a 1 minute how2
lyric sphinx
Thats yes, thats what im doing
dusky hemlock
Bravo needs mess tents to keep the game fun
lyric sphinx
If you cant learn how to alt click
lyric sphinx
To see an injury
fair moon
And i refuse to learn
dusky hemlock
revolvers and normal pistols should use diff ammo
lyric sphinx
And then read what bandage is correct for it
stable star
Tbf thats not the major criticism
placid nacelle
now you're just malding without any constructive rebuttal
lyric sphinx
Im calling you stupid
lyric sphinx
now you're just malding without any constructive rebuttal
I am
fair moon
revolvers and normal pistols should use diff ammo
no they both come out of the same sized weapon
lyric sphinx
What do you want me to say???
fair moon
they should shoot the same ammo its too confusing
dusky hemlock
no they both come out of the same sized weapon
y would u use a revolver in that case
lyric sphinx
"i cant figure out which bandage goes here"
fair moon
that is literally what happened to med gameplay
lyric sphinx
THEN ALTCLICK YOUR PATIENT
dusky hemlock
pistol sends more bullet downrange
tame flint
THEN ALTCLICK YOUR PATIENT
they BUFFED alt click's time, improved the ui, and made it cleaner too
stable star
I don’t even think the main criticism of v2 was hard to understand
lyric sphinx
I don’t even think the main criticism of v2 was hard to understand
People saw all the new gels are thought it was bloated
And rfn were struggling to heal themselves
dusky hemlock
meanwhile upstream has rainbow chem cabinets
dusky hemlock
And rfn were struggling to heal themselves
imo when v2 first dropped ifaks became more useful
lyric sphinx
imo when v2 first dropped ifaks became more useful
Ifak is genuijely just
Press Z
Stand still
lyric sphinx
We gotta pull up hideous destructor shit now
fair moon
you get the point
lyric sphinx
Their trauma mod makes you RETIGHTEN BANDAGES
placid nacelle
bro learned simon says put the square in the square hole and thinks he's smart 💀
It wasn't hard, it was tedious
fair moon
they BUFFED alt click's time, improved the ui, and made it cleaner too
They improved upon it and made it more intuitive and people still refused to learn it yes
fair moon
bro learned simon says put the square in the square hole and thinks he's smart �...
Go make cades
lyric sphinx
Their trauma mod makes you **RETIGHTEN BANDAGES**
Tighten too hard? You start taking pain damage
placid nacelle
nah I'm gonna keep playing corpsman
lyric sphinx
Tighten too little?
placid nacelle
keep seething though
fair moon
We had to remove putting the tiangle into the triangle hole and the circle into the circle hole beacuse people refused to leann
fair moon
the people who dont play medic
lyric sphinx
Unga
lyric sphinx
Just make it like quasimorphosis
Everything has a % of healing or not
Even if youused the correct method
(i fucking hate quasimorph healing.)
stable star
It wasn't hard, it was tedious
This was my personal opinion
lyric sphinx
(i also hate quasimorph and their shitty powerscaling)
lyric sphinx
Bros descriing pre-newmed
fair moon
In a perfect world medical would have two items
it really seems that way
tame flint
this is the only thing thats keeping me sane
stable star
Your hands should fall off if you pick up a scalpel lowkey
stable star
You guys should play eris
fair moon
lyric sphinx
You can heal with ANY
Bandage
But if its the incorrect one
Its gonna take fucking forever
stable star
All the corpsmen should play Eris pre-med 3
lyric sphinx
👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
lyric sphinx
All the corpsmen should play Eris pre-med 3
Is eris that upstream they were trying?
With the weird braindeath mechanic?