portal

[hollow topaz]

Hey guys, I know Portal isn't in the best state right now but is there somewhere to share servers to try and get them filled? I think I managed to finally get one that claims full XP (no bots) but I can't even play it to see if it's true because it needs 32 players to start lol.

[lyric aurora]

Well it says for portals verified modes is where you get xp etc. are bot lobbys verified?

[iron trellis]

verified modes meant like conquest, breakthrough, rush, not specific maps EA approved

[lyric aurora]

Ah

[iron trellis]

he spoke about how we can edit the settings and have full experience in them

[meager gulch]

I've played 106 hours so far. All in verified normal rush/breakthru/conquest all against bots. I've never stepped foot into MP. I would be playing rn but its pointless w/o wep prog. Instead, I'm on here bitching and playing classic+ private server lol

[burnt scaffold]

they were but dice decided to lockdown portal and reduce xp for verify modes.

[iron trellis]

if you boot up the portal site and go to custom experiences > create new > verified modes tab, you'll see what they're talking about, conquest, rush, breakthrough.

https://portal.battlefield.com/bf6/experience/game-mode

[lyric aurora]

I wish they did what bf4 did. A better server browser and being able to rent servers would have probably avoided some of this.

[gusty zinc]

you can catterwail all you like that you are no longer permitted to abuse the portal system to farm XP so you don't accually need to play the game but its not comming back FULL STOP, stop discussing it

[iron trellis]

I'll give them benifit of the doubt they never mentioned the custom modes, but they showed custom maps which require teh custom mode, and directly after that he says they allow full progression and xp, well you can't even earn xp in the custom mode which is required for custom maps, so this is also false advertising.

[gusty zinc]

thats all this uproar is you want to cheat\abuse a permissive system permissions are now being restricted and you don't like that boo-hoo

[iron trellis]

nice 8 year old understanding of what's going on here

[lyric aurora]

Didnt 2042 have a solo mode?

[meager gulch]

another one of these guys that think ppl only played portal to farm int he custom xp farm lobbies

[gusty zinc]

thats how yall are acting so thats the responce you get mommy said No now sip your juice box quietly or goto your room

[iron trellis]

Cucked response, not replying seriously to it, grow up kid.

[lyric aurora]

Iv played portal alot on bf6 but i only play the servers with people

[iron trellis]

A billion dollar game company advertised a mechanic, they removed the mechanic post-sale, this is a crime.

[gusty zinc]

No adult uses the word "cucked" in a sentence now goto your room kid

[iron trellis]

cope

[lyric aurora]

I can see it being a problem for casual people that play couple hours a day or couple hours a week. This games progression is tough

[gusty zinc]

none of the xp changes have any net effect other then putting a damper on XP farms. you are crying about nothing

do the math if you even know how

this is about people not wanting to play the game for unlocks or idiots wanting to use xp as bait for whatever garbage they coughed up in a hour

we don't want nor need either of those kinds of players

[verbal pecan]

pretty sure they want and need all player types..

[iron trellis]

Keep pretending like you understand how modding for this game works kid, you've never once opened anything other than a text file in your life.

EA advetised full progression and xp in custom user generated content, this is a lie, they turned it off today, they advertised it as a selling point several times, see the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oal6ez4KPws

Now today, to appease brainlettes like yourself that have absolutely zero concept of modding let alone anything at all related to the topic you jumped head first into pretending to understand, they now are banning people for using player generated content, a thing that was advertised all over the place as a feature.

Now if you were a bit older, you'd have the comprehension to see they also scammed you telling you what you wanted to hear to get a sale, but you're clearly operating on a higher brain wave than us and don't need to be explained this.

This issue all started because they advertised full progression and xp in use hosted lobbies, and EACH person that bought the game can host their own lobbies, this is false, they didn't put enough dedicated servers up to host all the lobbies people made, so folks got scammed out of them and xp farms took over.

This completely steralized co-op missions, and people are actually getting threatened for using my map files I released, proceed to defend this, I'm waiting for you 300 IQ take on the situation.

[gusty zinc]

the deal has been altered pray it doesn't get altered futher you can caterwail about false adversiting all you like but eula/TOS > anything said on the box, and don't even with the bans non-sense you know full well you can't just copy past IP from anouther compeating title in this climent UGC or not

ea is CYA because activistion are not nice people (neither is ea btw) but they would have every right to sue untill portal was nerfed so hard it would not exist anymore

the solution is not to call your map Insert-ip-protected-name-here

a easy work around

[iron trellis]

We'll see how that goes, I re-released my things with a different name since the name got censored, but this is not what was promised to us, surely you can see that after being explained what happened today, its not mindless children wanting to hold their trigger down and max their character out.

A guy got a letter today over a random generated zombie mode, their only crime was using my map files that had "shipment" in the name.

It took their whole project down from a word triggering something.

[gusty zinc]

well the tos on UGC using ip of other titles has been in place since well before this iteration of portal and its probly some regex scan flagging it

heavy handed ? maby but blanket effective and better then a ugly legal fight that ea can not have atm

[iron trellis]

Unfortunately the issue of the censoring content and ban warning is a seperate issue from the full progression and xp they promised getting disabled, but both stem from someone or multiple people in the office today acting on something a higher up told them to do

[gusty zinc]

you need to read up on IP law its pretty nasty and ANY case of somebody else using your IP and you not viciously defending your self results in total loss of the ip

its a wackodoodle system but its the one in place

it is a 100% red flag do not touch

this is isn't 30 years ago where I could whip up a port of facing worlds ctf for cs 1.6 and nobody cared

that kind of mapping \ level creation is deader then whats left of my soul

[iron trellis]

I agree with you on that, the shipment bit was understandable to an extent, for the reasons you laid out, one could say i'm salty over it and I am, beyond salty, people got in trouble for something i did

[gusty zinc]

nobody got in trouble, just a sternly worded warning that was probly a hot fix to make sure a stop got put to it before the suites decided to ruin it for everybody

[calm python]

I don’t find XP gain toooo bad but the challenges/assignments are abysmal…no clue how you’re supposed to do some of them outside of portal

[gusty zinc]

and yes @ea community team needs to step up and maby handle this with a bit more tact but things a probly very hetic with the ea buy out and the launch of bf6 atm so for once I am going to say cut the evil corp some slack

to accually get a prop editor in a mainline game these days is rarer then hens teeth so take the W where you can and accept there is going to be some bumps and limits put in

what I would not give for a game to ship with a FULL level edit ala unrealEd or GTK radient but thats unlikely but this is close ... pretty darn close

as for xp farms / bot farms those need to go in the bin we don't have the player base to support splitting the community 3 ways yet

we are already divided on class weapons and the 3 different but mostly the same game modes we have

the matcher currently is doing a less then ok job of getting people onboard with portal experiences that aren't ass

and if ea REALLy wants UGC To take off, then they need to expand on the tools. we need at minium blank canvas type maps with the ablity to use any asset from the game, and I would really like to see the older bf3/4 maps avaiable as base canvas

but I am not sure about the mesh compat with this interation of fb

[lyric aurora]

I suffered mentally doing the support mastery. The incendiary challenge was a horrible experience

[gusty zinc]

all of the progression is horrible right now I am not aruging that

it needs tuning and it will get some tuning

but XP farms No way jose they just clog up the server list

[lyric aurora]

100%

[gusty zinc]

we don't even have a roadmap for portal that I know of

[iron trellis]

Does anyone remember where you see the xp limitations of the projects? I just generated a new mission based on the settings he mentions in the sales advertisement as being able to earn progression and xp, but I can't locate where it shows what's allowed to be earned.

[gusty zinc]

speak of the devil: #direct-communication message

[real rock]

I can’t even do my daily challenges in portal before work 🤡

[gusty zinc]

I have been modding and programming and tinkering with various games for 20+ years

this is the closest thing I have seen to a full UGC support stack since unreal99

well maby not that old but you get the idea

I pray that eas new bosses give BFS the latuide to really flesh out this interation of portal instend of just saying HERE: throwing it at us and then walking away like they did in 2042

[calm python]

I’m barely halfway through, I’m on the smoke assist one. Haven’t even gotten one yet. Can’t imagine the others after. Also, the squad death match challenges are pretty much impossible and I just want the skins for that character

[gusty zinc]

a lot of the problems with the challanges are game balence atm. example assult 2 is pain because right now ARs don't work

good luck getting kills at
+50m

[marble basin]

6 hours of single tapping later

[gusty zinc]

we told them durning labs this open weapon concept was going to be a cluster with class identity and balance but they seem fully commited to there fuckup at this stage so .... I guess we are stuck with it

[iron trellis]

So I followed the advertised videos steps 1:1 and actually doing less than what he suggested in the video would yield full progression and XP, the match I made was a clean breakthrough map, the only changes were as followed:
hardcore mode
backfill bots

I then saved it and uploaded it and it gains zero xp despite the sales advertisement suggesting it would be fine, even with one shot mechanics or doing what the video demonstrated, hordes of unarmmed AI running towards the camera and getting mowed down.

[gusty zinc]

now many of the progression checks are tied behind the open weapon system and can't easily be retroactively fixed without re-doing a lot of work

[iron trellis]

Whats worse is doing the custom maps in the video where they had those crazy structures, you can't even enable xp gain in them despite the ad suggesting it was fine.

[gusty zinc]

but what would be the point of enabling Xp for that?

enabling xp for your re-creationg of a certain container based map is one thing

but xp for tower of babble and 360 ultra leet trickshot rendzook simulator

[iron trellis]

well from a modders standpoint, it encouraged people to come check out my content, but now it feels as if they're getting punished for spending their time checking anything user generated out if they can't even earn anything out of it, i doubt curiosity alone will bring folks in, but that's me speaking for others.

[gusty zinc]

exactly what I said bait

content if its good should be-able to stand on its own and spread like a California firestorm

[iron trellis]

unfortunately the folks making things worth seeing are drowned out by the xp farmers (I'm thinking of the zombie creator that got shutdown today as i type this)

and unfortunately they're lumped into the same crowd as them also

[gusty zinc]

well then I am confused why you are so salty about killing the farms lol

way to 180 lol

[iron trellis]

It's trickle down, it even effects people making coop missions like I do, you get nothing out of it now at all, even if you use minimal changes to verified modes, even doing the edits he said were safe in that video

[gusty zinc]

some of that is probly bfs slaming on the brake panic stop while they get people to stop being asshats about it

I am sure if there is a internal review-vetting process for highlighted experiences they are currently flooded with requests

it hasn't even been a month yet

[iron trellis]

unfortunately their reaction to the xp farmers went entirely too far in the wrong direction, xp servers got their balls clipped sure, but it hurt a whole lot more than just that, i'll see how they handle themselves tomorrow in the press release.

[gusty zinc]

yea but I don't think a softer touch would have made the message clear enough people like to push it untill they are made to submit

and crashing the servers for everybody by flooding the provisiong system with junk is even more harmful

[heavy river]

i came back after laundry and i see a bunch of the experience creators are throwing a fit because of "Inappropriate Reference - Third Party Products"

we might as well be watching monty python at this point. devs are literally slapping themselves and saying it doesnt hurt

[gusty zinc]

and thats not even discussing the balence issues everybody suddenly being COL100 would cause with a game this early in its release cycle

[heavy river]

https://tenor.com/view/movies-monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-monty-python-tis-but-a-scratch-scratch-gif-8541952152291691993

[gusty zinc]

IP law be like that

[heavy river]

you can easily argue that portal is a modding tool for community projects

[gusty zinc]

fun fact lawers ruin pretty much everything

[heavy river]

did nintendo buy out EA?

[gusty zinc]

doesn't matter with IP law IP law is different

[iron trellis]

Just for sake of science created another fresh mission using a verified mode, breakthrough, with backfill bots only enabled, nothing else at all changed, not even the name or description, it doesn't generate XP at all, its fully restricted.

Tried hard to give them benifit of the doubt based on that video getting passed around of them saying it would work, but it's not even the worse case scenario, they went full on scorched earth, anything with a bot in it will turn off XP.

[gusty zinc]

IP law is very clear about this if you don't defend/attack people using your Ip\trademarks you loose them

[meager gulch]

are you implying that the map layouts themselves are copyrighted? bc that really the only thing being copied.

[heavy river]

modding literally violates what you are claiming

[gusty zinc]

the issue was really the name being used which is trademarked

change the name the issue goes away thats all that was required

[meager gulch]

make shipment into pimpment. solved?

[heavy river]

people put weapons and skins and even mechanics from other games into so many other games these days you could paly bloodborne in mario kart

[gusty zinc]

but everybody started loosing there shit without thinking as per usual

[gusty zinc]

pretty much this but people where to busy loosin there shit over this to think

[iron trellis]

i'm going to not publicly say what my map files got swapped to, since I don't want EA going after people using my files, but if you're in bf portal I'll proceed to support them down the road if EA reverses some of the things they did today.

[gusty zinc]

don't be cheaky about it either 😉 make it differen't enough that nobody will even try

[errant quartz]

CONTAINER CUBE

Totally not shipment

[iron trellis]

I did something referencing box and cargo

inb4 they ban anyone using box and cargo in the descriptions

[gusty zinc]

god I hope so

then we won't need to listen to your flipflopping

[iron trellis]

I've been pretty steadily shitting on them since they did this, i dunno what flipflopping you're referencing specifically 🤔

only real flipflopping i did was going at you for brushing genuine mod creators and map makers with the same brush as mindless xp farmers, we already spoke about that

[gusty zinc]

#portal message shrug

[iron trellis]

Okay so I am speaking about EA not honoring everyone being allowed to host their own content on a server they were guaranteed to be allowed to use when they bought the game.

Despite what folks think even the XP farmers were entitled to host a server with full progression and xp.

[errant quartz]

I don’t see how that’s ’flip flopping’ …

[gusty zinc]

you can not be for both of those things lol

its either or lol they mutually exclusive lol

either you are for XP farms which will flood the server list and drown out cool content or you are against

with the system we have a inbetween is a fuctional impossiblity

[iron trellis]

problem is EA not honoring the fact every game purchaser is allowed to host a server, its not really the xp farmers fault they're choking up server space, its EA's again for not supporting the game buyers with dedicated server hardware behind the scenes.

The xp farmers pissed everyone off till they went at EA and caused the actions today, well it tipped to far and it affected everything with bots turned on, even official hardcore and conquest games.

My comment was referencing how it's sad that the backlash caused them to overreact and infringe upon people doing things they said were fine in the video.

[gusty zinc]

you show me where in the actual TOS ANY RIGHTS are guaranteed

I was shocked EA even allowed ANY XP to begin with thats was wild and my immediate impression and expectation was is wow not sure if brave or insane

because it went exactly how I thought it was going to go people exploited the shit out of it untill there hand was forced

[iron trellis]

I'll instead show you where they advertised the game with something and removed it post-release after it caused people to buy the game due to said advertisements.

https://youtu.be/oal6ez4KPws

False advertising is illegal, this goes beyond just someones opinion of what happened today, they actually advertised something to encourage sales and rug pulled it 11 days after the game released.

[gusty zinc]

gameplay not final

[iron trellis]

Gameplay =/= advertised features.

Play the video in slow motion if you need to, its a game advertisement showing features that got removed from the game today.

[gusty zinc]

no ware does it detail what verified mode entails

so good luck with that one

[iron trellis]

Verfied mode as I mentioned 3 different times tonight is rush, breakthrough and conquest, when you boot the website up to create custom modes you get to pick "custom or verified modes".

https://portal.battlefield.com/bf6/experiences

Create New > verified modes

Take a look, try it, do the bare minimum he suggests in the video, try to enable bots as showing in the footage and try to enable hardcore like he says, it disables all XP.

[gusty zinc]

no where do they promise bots

[iron trellis]

it's in the game footage they're speaking over top of.

[gusty zinc]

AND full xp

[silent rose]

your argument would be stopped bc you can’t define what “full player progression and xp gain” mean. portal still allows players to progress FULLY to max level. just slowly. portal still allows players to gain xp, just slowly.

[gusty zinc]

its implied maby but no where promised and come on false adversiting is a strech you you know it

[iron trellis]

repeat the steps in the video, create a verified mode with bots in it and watch what happens, the claim he makes at 0:30 is entirely false becaues it cannot be done as of today.

[gusty zinc]

also this full xp is not a defined term so there is that

[silent rose]

and “full progression” can be interpreted as either “you can progress fully” which is true

nowhere does it promise FAST progression

[iron trellis]

but it says full progression and xp, not limited

[silent rose]

DICE lawyers would say it means full progression… AND xp gain. separately. so you can fully progress, AND, you can gain xp

[iron trellis]

even playing along and doing the verified modes disables xp gain.

[fast grove]

they shouldve just removed the modifiers and stuff making it into a xp gain and buffing the bot difficulty to make it like you were playing against actual players

Not this problamatic bs

[hollow mirage]

Guys, this discussion isn't really helping or hurting anything.
If the community truly wants things to return to normal, we need to **contact support directly and comment under every official post from the company and the game — or speak with the community managers, just like the few who caused this situation did.
**
Also, content creators who stayed silent and didn’t complain to the **developers should now stand with the player community, **regardless of playstyle.

Some of us paid real money to enjoy the game the way we want — not to follow the rules or opinions of streamers and haters.

As for me, I don’t care whether you level up through Portal or standard gameplay — you paid for the game with your own money, not mine or anyone else’s.

[fast grove]

This. ⬆️

[silent rose]

portal bot leveling was awful in 2042 so i hope it doesnt become a problem in this game too

it took players from core gamemodes effectively filling the main game with bots whenever new challenges dropped

[iron trellis]

It's sad that the game devs advertised us one thing and did another, now the community is attacking itself for corprate suits clicking buttons on a computer in the office today.

[fast grove]

BF2042 bots were hella easy to slaughter, i just think they should just buff and make it that bots act like actual humans

I just want to go home and instead of being killed by people using meta weapons and slide cancelling i just want to have a fun time with bots. Hopefully they revert it soon. Might as well play arma 3 or something like that while waiting for them to revert it. Playing multiplayer rn feels like a portal between call of duty and battlefield.

[iron trellis]

I just retired from Arma 3 modding after 10 years, let my community go etc, I was preparing to mod full time on Battlefield 6 making content for people using my skills I learned over the past two decades, but I'm iffy about doing anything when they're handing out ban warnings to folks using the things I make.

I think I made a mistake trusting a triple A dev.

[fast grove]

Why couldn't they just up the bot accuracy/difficulty? I'd like a challenge tbh.

[hollow mirage]

My friend, everyone has the right to play and enjoy the game however they like.
I'm not forcing you to play Portal, and you shouldn't force me to play the standard game modes either.

The players who used XP farm servers or fought bots just to unlock certain items weren’t cheating or harming the game. On the contrary - Portal and custom servers made the game more popular and fun for both players and content creators, because of the creativity and freedom they offered.

That’s why I believe things should return to how they were before, as that’s what we were promised before the game’s release — and as paying customers, that promise should be respected.

[gusty zinc]

no

and no again no way no how no sir, can't be trusted to use the tools given and not find ways to exploit them to game the system for an advantage then you don't get the tools

if you don't care about unlocks/progression and just want to have fun then whats the problems ?

except you DO care and you DO want your cake and eat it and YOU do want all of the attachements and bragging rights that otherwise would have taken gruling hours of work

no sir I don't buy it not for a ny minute

and harm the community sure did they flooded the system with crap untill the provisioning server said No more, they flooded the list with garbage, and drowned out any real intrest in the cool content

to say nothing of the advantage of having all the attachments and weapons before everybody else who DIDN'T farm got them

and for what benefit whats the cost benefit here other then you are upset you where promised somthing and had it taken ?

what net benift in the long run does this change take away from you

[real rock]

…

[gusty zinc]

this toxic obsession with having it all and not being happy with what you had is what ensured portal 2042s demise (other then eas complete lack of post launch support)

which I can almost forgive because they spent so much time fixing the colossal fuckup that was 2042 in general...

[meager gulch]

bots are already decent. some are dogshit. some beam u the moment u leave cover. where they lack is awarness ie) they will go out in the line of fire to rez another bot

[fast grove]

Yeah. Increase their perception to make me feel like im actually fighting real players or something. 🤷

[gusty zinc]

whats the solution here then. do you want BFS to burn valuable resources hand-validating every portal experience that uses bots ?

or you willing to live with some limitations IF bots are used for backfil

[iron trellis]

i just want them to not advertise something and remove it after i bought the game 11 days after it released

[gusty zinc]

because lord knows you can't trust people not todo the exact same shit over again if you allow it

you are telling me with a strait face that a major part of you buying bf6 was specifically the portal mode having full XP

[iron trellis]

Yes.

[gusty zinc]

horse SHIT that is a self serving bs arugement and you and i both know you are bending the arugment to serve your self

[iron trellis]

Whatever you want to spin it into, redditor.

You asked, and you got your answer, cope harder over the answer you recieved.

[gusty zinc]

there is nothing to cope full-xp with bots is unlikely to ever return to you can take your toys and see your self to the nearest exit I am sure somebody else can figure out how to use the WYISG godot editor to make a copy of a 4x4 map with some boxes

[iron trellis]

Nobody is buying that, you've been coping the entire time you entered the chat justifying EA removing advertised features from game buyers.

[gusty zinc]

you need to re-evaluate your arugment and decide what its really about do you really care that NOBODY is getting full xp

or is about you being mad at evil corp and haveing a axe that needs sharpening

[iron trellis]

Keep glazing EA bro, everyone is super impressed.

Stunning and brave.

[gusty zinc]

so its the latter got it

[iron trellis]

A few more legitsu posts will magically make EA not guilty of violating the law.

[gusty zinc]

so by all means you and 'creators' like you contine to caterwail and torpedo a good thing by stamping your feet and shoving moutains in mole hills and using "my rights" as an excuse

no law was violated

unless you are also a judge

and when did we goto trial on ea vs the people

did I miss a memo ?

[iron trellis]

Yes, advertising something and taking it away after someone bought something is a crime.

[gusty zinc]

that would be for a court to decide not for you to decide and guess what the wonderful thing about the legal system in geneal is just because one party thinks they are right doesn't make it so

the fact that that resolution is out of reach of you, and your claims being unlikely to pass the first round with the sharks in fancy suits is problematic

but tis the world we live in

ea for once does the right thing and gives people the benfit of the doubt and allows full xp from the get go and surprise surprise people gotta abuse it and fuck it up and SHOCKER ea is not going to let that slide

the irony here is just ... wild ..

[fast grove]

and YET EA just couldnt disable the factors that make the people be able to abuse it?

[gusty zinc]

they did lol

[fast grove]

We dont want the modifiers allowing the xp farms back. we want bot xp back.

[gusty zinc]

the halved the xp gained from killing bots 'modified xp*

[gusty zinc]

ok I didn't get a answer from the other muppet on this so ill ask you;TO WHAT END

what purpose does that serve other then temptation

whats the net gain for enabling full xp with bots ?

everybody is dancing around that and nobody has an answer

what is the pros and cons here we know the cons abuse and general lower of the experience for everbody whats the pro ?

using full xp to promote your experience ? MABY but by golly thats a strech

its relevent I know this early in the games life cycle especially but I can not come up with a SOLID Reason for long run that is a net positive for the community as a whole

other then caterwailing about MAH RIGHTS and I was PROMISED THE MOON and got a soccerball on a stick

answer me that and ill retract everything I have said

[grim mica]

Bots should never be full xp ever. Did we not learn from 2042? Apparently not.

[gusty zinc]

do I wish with all that remains of my black and battered soul that we could go back to how it used to be where you bought something you owned ALL OF it if you wanted to drop down the console and type give all and have all the weapons level keys and just go absoutely ham on the ai

sure as shit I do but that is NOT how it is anymore

progression is seemly a core thing these days don't ask me why if it was up to me everbody would have all weapons and access to ANY game\experience alterating bits from the get go

but people seem to crave that hit of unlocking that new shiney thing more then they crave the hit of just getting better at the game

so if ANYBODY can tell me what the net posative for the experience would be by allowing full xp with bots all the time everyware please I would genuinely like to know whats so great about shooting fish in a barrel

[vernal bear]

Looking for players to test my custom conquest, ykvb3 is the code, no bots just fun.

[gusty zinc]

cherios promises to improve cholesterol and heart health with every bowl my grandfather had two bowls a day for 20 years and he still died of heart failure

maby i should sue kellogs for killing my grandfather

ok now that I have thoroughly thrashed these kids with logic and reason who wants to jump jeeps off a 200m cliff

BEEP BEEP ITS RAINING JEEPS

[errant quartz]

I can fully understand how some people who due to accessibility needs can’t hack it out in multiplayer, would find a bot lobby much more player friendly
How some individuals who get home late from work and want to do something monotonous like killing bots and still progress
How someone new to the game may want to work out everything first killing bots
Or how someone who wants to level a ‘bad’ gun they don’t like the feel of until the get attachments that are better
Those are just a couple of reasons why some may want or need bot filled lobbies, they should be able to get some level of progression for what they’re doing at the very least

Beyond that, for people like me, trying to build a community server. Bots on backfill are really helpful. I don’t have a 64 man deep discord ready to jump in and populate a server. So I’m reliant on bots to backfill beyond my small group until more join. Are we supposed to just sit there getting zero unlocks or progression whilst we wait on actual players?

[gusty zinc]

To sum it up with a tired old trope: skill issue, and maby a bit of entitlement, as for bots with server fill congrads you are first person to acually bring that up

to wit: I have always felt that practice is a bit of a bait and switch

but I come from a era where we used to work in shifts of 4 seeding our own servers the hard way

[errant quartz]

The first example was regarding people who are handicapped, is that considered a ‘skill issue’?

[gusty zinc]

thats a strench and a leaning more then a bit on the entitlement side I have seen quadriplegics play like you would not believe

[errant quartz]

They’re few and far between and not the majority

[gusty zinc]

but any way for the sake of it ill give it to you ? how do you verifiy that how do you sort out the balence between those with genuine barricades and people that just want to cheese it

on whole for the entire game globally how do you make this work so its at least makes a running effort at being fair

because if you hand out that rendzook gold dog tag because somebody made a server that spawns a jet below you and freezes you and it mid air

[errant quartz]

That’s the balance, imo I don’t think bots should give ‘full’ exp and you could even have a hard cap per 24hrs so someone can’t sit in an AFK lobby

[gusty zinc]

I guess that kills any meaning in having it

[gusty zinc]

that sounds slippery af for as you said a admitted minority

[errant quartz]

How so? Those that need it can still get some exp, those gaming the system would see better returns just playing as they can

[gusty zinc]

and I assume some experiences going foward are going to undergo some manual validation

[errant quartz]

It does imply there’s supposed to be manual validation only it’s instantaneous

[gusty zinc]

where dou draw the line then because these other people seem to be camp any limitation on bot xp is unacceptable

and you can farm a LOT of xp with bots in an hour twice 3x what you can against players

[storm narwhal]

I’m 54, my reflexes aren’t what they were, I run my own company and have limited time - the public servers are not fun for me. It’s turned into COD and I don’t play COD because of how people play. Most of the community are becoming toxic, with attitudes like skill issue. So I should git gud and be a friendly seal to be clubbed by the toxic open servers. Servers which are mostly a free for all of people focused on kills and not objectives. Having a lower xp gain from portals was fine for me to progress at my own pace, but removing progression completely means I’ll just go back to GZW instead, where I can still play with my buddies in an environment where I don’t have to pretend I have the reflexes of a 12yo and can actually enjoy my limited play time.

[gusty zinc]

the bots line up for you don't offer any resistence to speak of

[errant quartz]

In the middle, so those that need accessibility and ease can gain something and those that are playing normally don’t feel people are ‘gaming a system’ as normal play rewards higher exp

[gusty zinc]

I have no problem with that but I don't see how you can fesiably do it without enabling the same issues of servers flooding the list and people compeating to see who can game the system the most in the alloted time

[errant quartz]

Exactly one of my points that I was making, just because some individuals were exploiting a mechanic it shouldn’t hinder those that were getting far more enjoyment out of relaxed experiences

[errant quartz]

That’s where the 24hr cap comes in

[gusty zinc]

I am not that OLD yet I just turned 39 but even I can't play like I used to gone are the days where I could play quake3 instagib for 8hs a day my mind says yes but my hands and eyes say youwhatmate

but ill keep making the effort for as long as fesiable

for me the point is getting better, not unlocking the bipod for my knife

or at this stage keeping what I got because getting old does indeed suck

like toby keith song goes I aien't as good as I once was but I am as good once as I ever was

[errant quartz]

Who’s gonna sit on a server that you net 10-15k per game at a max of say 50-60k a day, anything beyond is nil or diminished. Someone who is trying to level up fast would just go to multiplayer where you get 30-50k a match at no cap. The server capacity would dwindle as only those who genuinely want bots would be using it and those who were exploiting would leave

[gusty zinc]

when the moon is right and I take enough medication and caffine I can still trouce todays call of dooty kids without much fuss but snap 180s to heads consistently those days are gone ...

[errant quartz]

But those who need those bots shouldn’t get nothing for it

[storm narwhal]

Don’t get me wrong I still do play the open lobbies and have some good games from time to time, as well as PUBG a lot where matchmaking has def helped, but some times it’s just soul destroying to play. It’s also nice to play for objectives with like minded people, the open lobbies are awful most of the time - get killed wait for one of the 10 support around you to revive, sorry nope they are too busy sniping with their LMGs

[gusty zinc]

I am not against ANY of that but do you really need 1:1 xp for playing against bots that can barely leave there spawn without dying

and thats against other bots

is that something that REALLY needs to exist in any form 1:1 xp for just a dilute boaring cheesy experience

[errant quartz]

Maybe they can also improve the bots ability’s and reward exp based on bot difficulty too

[gusty zinc]

because no matter if the XP cap is one hour or 100h people are going to complain about it

[upper scarab]

Did the veryfied experiences get affected too by the XP changes?

[errant quartz]

Yeah

[storm narwhal]

I would be very happy with 25% xp, slow progression gives longevity, no progression is just pointless

[gusty zinc]

I have no issue with that

[upper scarab]

Was that directed at me?

[gusty zinc]

my issue was people aruging that they should/need FULL XP for bots

and that not having full xp is such a major dealbreaker its like somebody shot there dog and made them bury it with a spoon

[upper scarab]

Reducing the XP bots give, I can understand. But if the entire server gets downgraded it is 2042 all over again

[errant quartz]

Oh god, completely with you on ‘full’

But I’m thinking about those who need it, and those trying to bot backfill populate

[gusty zinc]

it was that the second people started abusing the system thats exactly what set this off on 2042

[storm narwhal]

Just seems that we drove directly from one ditch into the other, knee jerk reaction to an issue without think it through.

[upper scarab]

And why was history repeated?

[gusty zinc]

I said earlier this was a bit of a panic stop and I am ok with a panic stop rather then run full throttle into a sidewalk full of pedestrians like a ford mustang

[errant quartz]

Because people dice didn’t learn

[upper scarab]

The attachment grind is even worse in BF6 than 2042

[gusty zinc]

they gave the community the benifit of the doubt and had there faith justly rewarded as usual

because the bf community is a bunch of toxic wanna bes

[twin relic]

They should remove xp from bots completely, who buys triple a game to play with bots? They abuse this grinding x8 and x10 scopes and its jmpossible to countersniper those people on matchmaking, people buying 70 euro game for the best multiplayer experience and this is what they should adress, theres no excuse playing with bots

[upper scarab]

Dice made the game have a huge grind. It was nowhere as bad in 2042

[errant quartz]

Look, I’m against full exp, but we need to stand by those who genuinely would need bots and would be happy with diminished returns

[storm narwhal]

Masses of people will of course take the path of least resistance, gotta have they knife bipod 🙂

[candid token]

they should have just left it how it was, the damage has already been done now the new people coming in will find it hard and no way to get in in level weps etc with this nerf

[gusty zinc]

agree, and I said earlier as well progression atm is complete dogshit it needs more of a rework then a 10% spot patch

[upper scarab]

Surely they can program it so that bots give no Exp but players do in the same server

[gusty zinc]

some of it related to balence / bugs with weapon balence some of it is just optimisic faith in the 1% no lifers

[lunar iris]

Agree. I am ok with less xp + progression.

[gusty zinc]

and god do I wish I could be a 1% no lifer again but I also wish I could sleep more then 6h without needing to pee both of those things are gone

[timid estuary]

well i tested it out myself you still get xp just not as much and missions challenges count as well

[lunar iris]

How about gun progession?

[errant quartz]

I don’t get why people need ‘exp lobbies’ I’m lvl 61 and only get a couple of hours a night if I’m lucky. But for whatever reason some TikTok brain has killed it for those utilising bots with good intent

[twin relic]

Xp from bots should be 0% if they want to keep the game alive, i didnt buy 70 euro game to play with bots, i wanna snipe people

[timid estuary]

is still there just not as fast

[iron trellis]

i have bad news for you, most of the lobbies online use bot fill.

[gusty zinc]

it doesn't need to be zero see now yo uare just going hard left for the hell of it

[timid estuary]

goes faster in normal lobbies portal was never meant for leveling up guns its more meant for having fun with friends weekly and challenges

[errant quartz]

That’s okay for you, but there are other reasons people need bots

I outlined some here #portal message

[gusty zinc]

but finding a balence while making sure people don't flood the server list with crapola and abuse it is tricky and EA picked the path of least resisence and just kill it all

[twin relic]

Achievements and xp grind on matchmaking is what we want, this feels you are achieving something

[iron trellis]

i bring this up because now you get nothing for those lame bots being in the server shooting at you, in theroy this applies to public servers also.

[lunar iris]

I am work guy. I don't have much time to play. (1-2 hours a day)

[lunar iris]

They can do local host path for verified game mode.

[upper scarab]

Just yesterday I had fun in an infantry only BR server with mostly players and few backfill bots to fill the gaps. Does it mean that now this server is cooked?

[gusty zinc]

was XP a major compoent of your fun or just a nice to have ?

[errant quartz]

Yes, exp is 150% match exp only if it’s backfilled

[upper scarab]

I want the attachments for the guns

[twin relic]

This is no excuse for people to play with bots, i get home late too after work and i prefer to kill real players, the game has instant respawn so i dont think theres a problem

[upper scarab]

Do you not understand the role of the backfill bots? It is in their name

[upper scarab]

But it said it is only for custom experiences. Did they lie?

[twin relic]

No i dont understand it because theres is nonsense on triple a multiplayer game to play with bots, there are games like ghost recon where people can play with ai driven bots, we are on battlefield for chaos

[iron trellis]

got a friend that is polar opposite, he prefers to relax in a low stress pve thing after a stressful day of dealing with the public face in retail. He prefers to go all in when he has a day off to play something hyperactive, meaning regular ol' battlefield

it's a shame that only one player can actually now play the game the way they want and were advertised as being allowed to do, surely you can see this.

[vapid palm]

Something wrong with challenges??

Cant complete some

[timid estuary]

no works fine

[fast grove]

What if they just make progression with bots like in mp and they 2x real player kill prog

[twin relic]

This is not a pve game

[upper scarab]

And what happens if you cannot get enough patient humans to start the server or too many people quit between rounds?
That is how 2042 portal died and became a wasteland of hardcore servers, challenge boosters, killtraders and afk farmers

[errant quartz]

So you believe that someone who’s handicapped should just suffer through a fast paced game? That a server that uses bot backfill while players join should have 0 progression even if 64 players eventually join? That someone who just wants to have a quick easy match before bed should have zero gun progression?

I’m not saying they should get 100% exp that you’d get in multiplayer, but anywhere below 100% and above 25% seems reasonable to me

[vapid palm]

The 2 week i have 9/10 but everything is green

[timid estuary]

thats just glitched for week 1 and 2

[twin relic]

Fast paced is what game should be, you are trying to change the gameplay on battlefield or what?

[snow badge]

dice even made a regular closed weapon conquest that doesn't give xp because it has some bots in it.

[errant quartz]

Fast paced is the game to you and many others, there are some who may want something slower

[fast grove]

Battlefield has never ever been fast paced? the hell?

[iron trellis]

unfortunately they allow it, and in fact advertised they were supporting pve game modes with the sales ads.

2042 also allowed full xp in bots lobbies, progression included, directly from the main menu.

BF3 had coop pve experiences also, bad company 2 had pve called onslaught mode.

[fast grove]

What if they just 2x normal mp and made progression longer

2x normal mp, 1x bots. progression longer, modifiers not allowed on verified modes

[meager gulch]

i did. i paid 108 after tax

[errant quartz]

I don’t see why we have extremes on both sides

Why can’t we be in the middle

[iron cargo]

Thank you DICE! My Portal BF Vanilla CLosed Weapon Server without bots is finally starting up

[fast grove]

No one is forcing you to play against bots..? we just want bot xp

[fast grove]

then you realize it gets 0 players.

[errant quartz]

It’s hilarious to me that official servers have bot backfill but that’s okay, but a portal server that’s exactly the same can’t

[iron cargo]

well we are a gaming claqn since 2004 and we are a big community, so WE get this one started right away

[errant quartz]

That must be nice, there are some smaller communities like mine that need the backfill while we wait for players

[fast grove]

This.

[hushed canyon]

To be honest I could care less about bots. Even the "standard" matches have bots, so I don't get the scorched earth approach to Portal.

All I and many others would like is official HC for ALL game modes. Be it through "official rules" in Portal or on the front page.

If petitioning, posting or, DM's is what it takes, give me the list of locations and I will start there.

[gusty zinc]

A thot has occurred it might be a. Good idea if EA puts up a few persistent servers of their own and lets the Matchmaker backfill those portal. Servers" with players

[meager gulch]

it has bots. its both and can remain both

[iron cargo]

I fully understand, option to start match with lets say 1 or 2 ppl would be good,, like back in the days with dedicated servers

[gusty zinc]

Being able to reconnect to the same server with the same group of players you left is critical for community building

[errant quartz]

Absolutely agree, it’s just we’re stuck. I’m making maps but I can’t get players on them cus who searches customs?? So I’m gonna need the backfill

[quick ocean]

Exactly. Why don't people enjoy what they came for instead of bashing each other for their own enjoyment? Those who want to PVP can have their own custom server and those who want PVE can have theirs. That's why they bought the game in the first place. It must be balanced on both sides.

[gusty zinc]

because certain groups use this as the beat to there drum and demand they have there cake and eat it

[fast grove]

then eradicate the certain group.

[errant quartz]

It’s both sides though
Those demanding full
Those demanding none

Everyone else gets a migraine in the middle

[gusty zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/john-wick-gif-17496548963120913872

sorry @iron trellis but for the good of the nation you must die

nothing personal /s

[hushed canyon]

Can you do "customs", without bots, and it give full progressions? Only you need minimum amount of players to join to start a match?

[errant quartz]

I’ll admit I’m unsure on that, I’ve heard some custom maps still net only 150% match even without the bots but I’m yet to put another up to check

[gusty zinc]

I just don't see middle A: working B: pleasing everybody enough to put this to bed and since we can't please B: then best be off without them sigh -_-

[fast grove]

what the hell.

[hushed canyon]

Geesus. Man understand both sides of the 'bot farming" aggro. Just scratching my head why HC got bodied in the process..

[errant quartz]

With the recent banwave over what seems to be adding discord links in server descriptions I have to redo all my experiences too

[fast grove]

it even says on my game w backfill off its modified xp..

[gusty zinc]

nobody got accually banned just a strongly worded warning

at least if that was there ONLY infraction

and enforcement of that given this new state of portal come on ea use a bit more tact next time sheesh

[errant quartz]

You won’t please those looking to exploit
But those needing it will be appreciative when met in the middle and hopefully those who held issue at the exploiters will see no issue due to diminished returns in bot lobbies

[iron trellis]

Unfortunately you'd get folded into a incomrehensible ball of meat and tucked into a storm drain if we ever crossed paths in real life, thankfully for you.

[quick ocean]

Even Battlefield 3 had a co-op. And seeing the current implementation of COD like weapon xp, level xp, battlepass xp. Even they have some sort of co-op(spec-ops, zombies) with full progression why not BF.

[fast grove]

I think they should just make bots 75% and increse pvp to 2x and disable the modifiers allowing for health and all that to custom.

[gusty zinc]

will I at least taste good with marinara sauce ?

[iron trellis]

you'd look good on a plate of mom's spaghetti

[hushed canyon]

Sir remember your name. xD

[errant quartz]

I’m happy with 25% vs the bot until backfill lets you get 100% vs the player replacement

[gusty zinc]

man we did just get that new chinese mini excavator I been looking for a reason to dig a hole lets meet up and we can discussion your opinion over a nice cup of 38 special

or liber-tea if thats your drink of choice never let it be said ill deny a man his last meal

Ooo I got it I know how to settle this

everybody has to fight 1v1 in a ladder style tourny

winner gets to decide how much xp the bots give

[covert junco]

so was the weekly - daily- and some other challenges disabled in portal? i see only assignements being functioning now

[gusty zinc]

everything is killed untill ea can figure out how to make people play nice

[night seal]

I’ve got 15 friends that play we had a server so we could practice backfilling with bot was ok until we got more players in either by invitation or randoms it was all working fine admittedly the bot seamed super tough as there was no menu to change the bot’s ability from beginner intermediate veteran, we just was the sever back we’d be willing to pay,

[gusty zinc]

it boggles the mind that hill people pick to die on on the internet

[errant quartz]

You’ve picked one too tbf

[gusty zinc]

terrible map design choices cramped quarters mediocur audio design

No lets loose our Minds over bot-xp

naa I really don't care I have no horse in this race but the exorcise of demonstrating the folly of there my way or highway logic is fun

[errant quartz]

If that’s considered fun then you must be easily amused

[vapid palm]

Week 3 same thing... I have been repairing and its stuck at 0/3000

[gusty zinc]

hey I once was known to spend 3 hours playing with a ball of bubblewrap I made

I am not just easily amused I am ADHD asf

[errant quartz]

Everything is starting to make sense

[gusty zinc]

fuck you bubblewrap pwns

its really impressive despite this going on for 2h at this point I have been playing while blasting 90s anime themes

and I managed to keep a positive kdr

AND keep up with this ever scrolling shitshow of a topic

maby I am not as old and washed out as I thought or maby everybody else is just that bad ...

but anyway shifting gears here: so are we gonna get a road map for portal after the 28th ?

my wishlist is pretty short: id like some template maps so we have room to really go mad without worrying about overloading and killing performance, and part of that is allowing access to all props globally

[real light]

Problem is, their 'featured' home page/custom search quick play lobbies are the worst, the high ping is just unplayable.
They need to realise many people simply have no choice but to host for challenges.

It was going smooth for people just happy playing with bots & people in a low ping server, it made the game playable.

Now we are demoted to finding a server that allows challenge hunting, with the backlash of the server host removing vehicles, tweaking tickets, damage, speed and even weapons....

Literally keep the bot servers, just take the option out to manipulate the damn bots for farming.... it's simple. PING IS EVERYTHING.

[gusty zinc]

not that there is a snowballs chance in hell but my penuliment is a full map editor with support for the whole smack of heightmaps terrian skyboxes custom models meshs ect

I need an excuse to dust off my old blender chops

[fast grove]

Seperate mode for bots like in BF2042 but slower progression than the rest?

[gusty zinc]

modes can be done within the scope of portal scripting

thats just circling back to xp lol plz stop

[lyric aurora]

Is portal working yet?

[lunar iris]

Dead for me

[gusty zinc]

probly going to be down for a bit

https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/144885731129556992 they are making some back end changes so if its down for a few hours it would not surprise me

and with that I bid you adieu

[fast grove]

aight

remember this just a game :( no real life beef

[desert trellis]

Are the Battlefield team sorting out these CHEATING SERVERS , thank goodness , get them all gone and ban the account that's creating them also .

[meager gulch]

legitsu youve been in for like 3+ hours arguing with ppl nonstop

[sly lagoon]

how can i find rush ode without vehicle dog shit

because those

[jade hedge]

You don't lose progress of kills or anything if you leave a match before end right?

It's just the end of match xp you miss out on?

[atomic dust]

Can you still complete challenges against bots only in portal or did the recent patch change that?

[somber gorge]

So, for what i understood, HARDCORE PVP servers are not effected by the XP reduction? Cause i played and it still give me weapon mastery, weapon attach ecc. I dont understnad. Can someone clarify this please?

[jade hedge]

Portal is on an emergency xp throttle atm til they can fix the xp farms clogging the servers. Challenges no longer work in portal correct

[shut trout]

Oh this one I quickly completed it yesterday when they said it's no longer possible to complete tasks Vs bots which turned out to be a lie. If you need help there's a trick for this but I don't want it to be patched so DM me if you want the tip

[shut trout]

For me it worked it was a lie I guess? I completed all of them quickly yesterday. I even hosted multiple servers for that, made changes in real time on them etc. Unless I had to restart Steam in order to download some patch and I didn't, it really just worked perfectly, done 300 supresions, all recon missions etc.

[shut trout]

If you play Vs players but if you play Vs bots you don't get exp for killing s bot, no progression towards attachments at all for killing one bot

Super weird if it doesn't work for y'all but if you want to I can host for you

The worst are engineer tasks they make no sense

So no worries if they'd really remove the possibility of completing tasks towards the bots the outrage would be huuuuuge considering most of the ppl already completed it that way

They could make the new ones not possible to complete Vs bots but not the ones that ppl already completed

[jade hedge]

I wouldn't say most people. It's not just streamers that find it pointless to complete that way. I've not used the bot lobbies a single time and I've made it to level 30 on the attack heli. I realise some people have got 50+ on heli with the bot farm but I have to just suck it up and be glad I know I did it the hard way

[sly pawn]

Persistent server only works for one map rotation?

[shut trout]

They work until you log off

[sly pawn]

nah, mine just exits

kicks me to the lobby

[shut trout]

Weird

[sleek junco]

Anyone know if there’s a way to change what region your multiplayer search uses, that isint through portal?

[livid crypt]

i can't even see normal portal servers

[shut trout]

Y6HJM if you want to progress with your vehicle tasks Vs bots

8ECH for infantry tasks

Please like my servers, cheers

[jade hedge]

In 2042 I did the zombie mode thing that lasted 48 hours when the game came out. Got like 5 guns to tier 1. The only reason I did that was cos the game had very little going for it. BF6 is just wayyyyy too fun to need to sit in a bot lobby

But each to their own

[obsidian island]

Anyone else seeding rn? I loathe this. I really wish we had seeding gamemodes like 1 flag domination or similar.

1/24 people to start the game. Bonkers.

[steel ingot]

I just hate how slow the attachment grind is.
Picked up the MP7 today, 12 hours in and only level 22, and that was just the boosted xp gain from previous patch a week ago that buffed the progression on the first 20 levels.

[fiery jasper]

Why did they cancel the gun experience point growth in the portal community?

[upper scarab]

I have a platoon mate who swears that capturing objectives gives weapon mastery xp even without shooting, can anyone test it right now?

[fiery jasper]

They promised in the BF6 promotional ads that they would provide a portal community with stable experience, and now they cancel it?

[jade hedge]

I can absolutely agree it's way too slow for attachments. It doesn't bother me personally because I'm just enjoying the game outside of unlocking attachments a lot but I definitely see how frustrating it would be if you're focusing on a particular gun

[fiery jasper]

EA & DICE, have your left and right brains also become NATO and the Peace Corps?

[fast grove]

All of its cancelled until DICE fixes their shit.

[upper scarab]

I mean outside of portal

[fast grove]

Probably

[fast grove]

Ay ay dont compare NATO and Peace Corps to those... , thats too mean :(

[fiery jasper]

I mean, there's a civil war going on between the left and right hemispheres brain of EA and DICE.

[bronze dock]

Did DICE learn NOTHING from 2042 portal ???

We went down this path already back in 2021... OMG they did it again

[fast grove]

To be honest for a company that got bought out for 50 billion, they cant listen to their community :(

[fast grove]

yup yup.

[bronze dock]

Oh they sold $EA fast... they wanted OUT of this LEMON

BF6 was NOT an improvement over BF4.... DICE WAKE UP

[fast grove]

Literally been 1 week without A2A loadouts and Air to air Missiles

[bronze dock]

The jets are junk, i wouldn't bother. The helis are worse than 2042.

[fast grove]

Literally cant land them. oh my gosh

[bronze dock]

Ikr... not 3rd person or 1st person, u can't see the ground, unless you do some weird freelook combination

i have to bang the tail down to find the ground and then slam the fuselage down after that

[somber gorge]

I play ONLY against PLAYERS in portal hardcore mode.

Do i get XP or not?

[fast grove]

Yes if you kill a player, if you kill a bot you wont get xp.

[somber gorge]

That's fair OF COURSE. Omg they really did this? if you kill players you get XP! even on portal? AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEE :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[fast grove]

check if backfill is on, if its on then you might not get xp

[bronze dock]

^ this

I only saw a server have FULL XP when it wsa 64/64 with players, 63/64 and it was MOD XP

good luck figuring anything out they do, will take a year for them to turn this beta into a game.

[somber gorge]

i think, it just depends if you kill players or not. Cause i played in games where it says 150% at the end of the match, but killing players you get weapon mastery and everything

[austere belfry]

Is there going to be jet configuration stuff next update?

[fast grove]

no. just addition of A2A missiles to F-22 and SU-57

[austere belfry]

Damnn thats all? Is there any info if it will be coming soon?

I lowkey miss stuff from Batllefield 3

[fast grove]

Probably same as BR and S1. Next Week Oct 28

[austere belfry]

BR?

[austere belfry]

Oh so something might come at this date?

[fast grove]

Yeah probably.

[austere belfry]

Or only A2A

[fast grove]

VEHICLES:

R-84V2 and AIM-84 Air-to-Air Missiles have been temporarily disabled due to an issue related to Air-to-Air missiles from jets towards other aircraft. These missiles will be re-enabled in an upcoming update.

[austere belfry]

Oooh I see

Thank You mate

[jade hedge]

Uhhhh so in the radio option of the talky menu thingie whatever the hell it's called. You can select from 6 different radio stations - Local radio 90, Neon 91.5, 107.8 Opus Radio, Bullet Rock 103.3, Eight count radio 93.9 and 94.2 legacy fm...... but it doesn't play anything when you select any of them

so it seems like radio stations were in fact intended to be in multiplayer but it's just broken atm?

[viscid frigate]

#direct-communication message If these backend changes are the exact same changes that were done for 2042, changes that stifled Portal, especially in low player count regions. I DON'T WANT IT. Verified Modes should give Full XP, AI or no AI, Full XP should be given.

[iron cargo]

Chillo out and wait

[jade hedge]

and they will. This is temporary to get rid of all the farming

[tropic forge]

Does create servers work now? tried everyday since release without luck. I saw some statement today, but did not know if it was fixed yet.

[weary bay]

spent a lot of time building a map

and half the object seem to be non-solid

cant get my head around why

there are also random invisible walls 😕

JSON file looks fine. Any map makers here?

[lean sky]

You can enabloe and disable them in the settings, maybe it was turned off for you?

[hoary canyon]

Hi, is there a special channel for Portal SDK?

[jade hedge]

it's been on since launch

[gleaming mango]

there is a dedicated portal server

with devs and testers

[hoary canyon]

Anyone knows how to add a "game mode" to my custom map? When i try to upload the map to portal, i get the error that there is no game mode

[tall sorrel]

Hi guys, do any of you have a server code which will let me fly just Helis? Preferably solo no bots needed?

[viscid frigate]

In the experiences tab, filter by most popular, there should be a helis and jets experience that lets you practice flying.

[jade hedge]

search jet or heli in the search bar of portal. Then select "Most liked"

[lime compass]

did they finally remove xp farms ? i can finally insta host servers and after i checked modified offical gamemodes they didn't have the 100% progression anymore

[lean sky]

Depends, do you mean the "experience" tab servers

[lime compass]

well anything in portal

[lean sky]

Everything on portal is not the same

[lime compass]

regardless i can finally correctly test my dogfighting gamemode

[lean sky]

On give xp on do not, atleast until yesterday

one*

[jade hedge]

Some Battlefield 6 Portal map creators are receiving warnings for “Inappropriate references to third party products”.

In this case, referencing the popular COD map “Shipment”. It’s most likely because EA are worried about potential legal repercussions from Activision Blizzard.

Seems people will have to rename these experiences but that will make them incredibly hard to search for.

via Ghostgaming on twitter (already posted a link 2 mins ago so can't post it yet here)

[fluid violet]

Ment To Ship ? 😄

[jade hedge]

Lol I was just thinking "Container map"

[fluid violet]

That works. 🙂

I'm concerned about recent changes in portal. With no xp / progression in portal games, I can't even quickly do my daily now, it's kinda made the whole point of having portal - pointless.

[molten hinge]

Could someone please tell me if anyone actually didn't receivied the double XP tokens even after the last report they released saying they would deliver the tokens to those who missed out on the first time? I made the preorder through the EA app, got stucked at the first hour and never received these Double XP tokens 🥺

[silk tundra]

Is there a way in Portal Conquest to remove the requirement for minimum player count to start a match?

[lean sky]

Works for me

[fluid violet]

Let me know a portal code for "pistol" kills / assault. Cause everyone I've tried today has failed me.

[lean sky]

I have no portal codes, i make my own servers on verified mode

[fluid violet]

If I am wrong, I'll say so..... but today hasn't been fun at all, trying to get kills against players who just SMG, bunny hop and slide, to my zimmer frame reactions. 🙁

[lean sky]

That sucks, thats why i play with bots until they make bigger maps, what you mean if you are wrong? about what?

[silk tundra]

I don't get how one is supposed to run a server for real players only when you can't start a game unless you have 32 people waiting in the lobby. A game will never start.

[lean sky]

There are other ways for playing with bots

Dont know if it works with real players

[silk tundra]

I'd like to run a no-bot server

[lean sky]

Dont think its working, i made a real player server the same hour the game released but know i have to play another way were i cant chose the maps

[fluid violet]

There is plenty - just press Multiplayer - Conquest - Start - wait for game to load and play. You can Browse Modes also.

[lean sky]

I cant choose to play one map for example or only two

[silk tundra]

You can. Multiplayer - Custom Search - select the modes and maps

It will rotate between the modes and maps you choose at random, and won't put you on those you don't pick

[lean sky]

But those dont give xp

[fluid violet]

I have to agree - the maps are... lacklustre.

[silk tundra]

Multiplayer - custom search? Aye they do give XP, those are official servers, not portal

[lean sky]

I think it sucks, they should do over the whole system

[silk tundra]

You can just restrict official matchmaking to only the maps and modes you like

[lean sky]

I cant find anything with xp on there

[fluid violet]

They've had it good in the past, but like all smart devs, they fix what isn't broken.

[lean sky]

Only browser search works, and you dont know if its bots on it or not

[fluid violet]

Nope - joined a conquest portal map - killed two with sidearms - no progression on today's daily. 🙁

[lean sky]

They should make those things more clear

Why didnt they just set it up like BF2042 💩

[silk tundra]

You should just use official multiplayer matchmaking instead of portal https://zip.cafecreature.com/mZ8F3l.mp4

[fast grove]

I think he wants to play with bots

[lean sky]

When i join those and do what you do the game think i want those map in a rotation, then the next map is something else and after that the other one i wanted comes

[fast grove]

Probably.

[silk tundra]

In my experience it only ever put me in the maps I picked initially

Even if I just pick Firestorm, it keeps endlessly putting me in Firestorm servers

[lean sky]

Thats why im talking about portal browser search. where i could see the rotations

[silk tundra]

If I select several, it's random which one it'll pick, and it can do the same map a few times in a row, but it never picks a map that I haven't selected

[fluid violet]

They allowed us to play the game - HOW WE WANTED - to play the game. Now.... 2 weeks after they have gotten out money, it's like "meh - BF labs team were silly - I'm a dev and know better - KILL IT - and no you can't get a refund".

[lean sky]

But thankyou

[fast grove]

Is shakespeare really dead?

[lean sky]

Can you let the grown ups talk?

[fast grove]

Sorry

[lean sky]

Its no problem but i dont know if you are trolling? Many people in here are

[fast grove]

Nope im just here because i want to play with bots again with my friends

[lean sky]

Okey, thats alright, lets just hope they fix this soon

[fast grove]

Yeah i hope

[lean sky]

Someone argued with me yesterday in here because im handicapped and in alot of pain and need to play bots sometimes and gave me alot of shit so im on the edge

[fluid violet]

I'm just looking for answers. I was never going to be a top 10% player, because of age and reflexes. Doing daily's in the privacy of a portal server, just allowed me to focus on the game when done with them. I'm not a fan of doing stuff like this, that distracts the focus of the primary objective within the game.

[lean sky]

Same, its take the fun out of it when its this extreme

[lunar iris]

Are they reverse gain xp + progression in portal yet?

[fluid violet]

no

[lean sky]

The only way i get xp is playing alone with bots with portal verified mode

[lunar iris]

But no weapon progression right?

[lean sky]

You get weapon xp

but not that much

[nova marten]

Out of curiosity, how much do you play per day on avg?

[lean sky]

Someday 2 hours one day 1h rarely i can play up to 4

Depends how tired i am from the pain

[fluid violet]

Killed about 8 with sidearms and no progression at all on Portal. They should have just removed the whole system.

[steady terrace]

You can play alone on verified mode?

[lunar iris]

I want to make Portal r.i.p. meme

[winter tendon]

I think yeah.

[nova marten]

No XP from bots though

[lean sky]

https://ibb.co/BVSW8N1X

This was from yesterday with bots, roughly 15-20 kills

[neat thistle]

Not even the weapon challenges like kill people with shotgun etc ?

[nova marten]

You can do challenges but you get a fraction of the XP from bots

[winter tendon]

I mean, if you just want to kill some time and want to chill its okey but other then that its like meh kinda..

[lean sky]

Then i played 1 more game with no more then 30 kills and got the ak

[neat thistle]

Op some of these challenges take too long in multiplayer

[lean sky]

Yea you can

There is a work around for it

[fluid violet]

How?

[lean sky]

DM

[lean sky]

I did multiple challenges yesterday with bots including repair vehicles and it didnt take long

[still tulip]

is the bot xp back up?

[wicked marsh]

Doubt it they intend to snub that out read the news and updates

[still tulip]

that will suck massively

[wicked marsh]

Not really. Bot farms are literally destroying the space available for actually enjoyable or creative Portal maps. Way too may way too many persistent servers clogging up the game. IMO good riddance

[still tulip]

I was referring to the official portal gamemodes such as hardcore and infantry only modes, but yeah, there is no need for dedicated xp farms when one can just host the official portal modes to do so

[neon tangle]

Portal servers with bots you can get assignments completed but that’s it right?

[crude ingot]

lol you can actually get in custom lobby without getting the global error lmao hahahaha

[still tulip]

Right now yeah

[dense holly]

If the server is full of people, what then?

[still tulip]

I really wish we get bot xp back, even a nerfed version is still better then absolute zero

[lean sky]

How does that work? You get 1 persistent server per account, if everybody made one persistent server playing without bots you would still have the same problem. This is not a bot problem, this is an EA being a cheapskate problem. It means they never prepared properly for the launch

[still tulip]

At least we can still play hardcore/infantry only modes while progressing weapons

[dense holly]

I personally hate the bot farms and only wanted servers for the old community feeling. If the community servers give no xp, dead game to me

[lean sky]

I think they should have it on both

Escpecially for the handicapped people who needs it

[viscid frigate]

And that's exactly the problem that has now been inherited from 2042. You could have a full 128 player server but because bots were needed to help fill the server during off peak hours, everyone is punished during peak hours despite no bots being in the game.

[dense holly]

Play verified with bots backfill, don't set up rules to bot farm

[lean sky]

Yes you are right

[dense holly]

Okay, so if the server is full of players, they don't get xp

Am I understanding this correct

[viscid frigate]

No they don't, not according to whatever they're experimenting with currently.

[dense holly]

Well that's fcking dumb

[lean sky]

I just assume you meant one thing, when i mention i play normal games with bots for fun they call me an xp farmer

[still tulip]

Or better yet, normal weapon xp but nerfed player xp when killing bots

[atomic cosmos]

So what about PvP? Is that also been affected too?

[viscid frigate]

According to the browser, PvP Verified Modes are also affected.

[atomic cosmos]

I do know that even some official developers experiences have modified EXP

[dense holly]

I think so yes, if I'm understanding correctly, doesn't matter, if the server had bots, no xp

[lean sky]

Verified mode have xp but thats the ones not functioning right now

[dense holly]

What's a pvp verified? Does that just mean bots off?

[lean sky]

verified game with bots*

[atomic cosmos]

that's what we assuming

[still tulip]

only player xp, that's applies for all portal maps currently

[dense holly]

Mine is verified conquest, bots backfill and no xp

[viscid frigate]

Hardcore for example.

[lean sky]

No it doesnt

[flint plume]

If I host an experience with NO BOTS, XP is normal right? But if I host a AI Backfill server then its limited XP? Thanks in advance who ever answers this.

[still tulip]

as in now

[lean sky]

Verified with bots gets you xp

[dense holly]

Are you sure? I just launched mine and it's at 150xp match completion, that's all

Verified conquest

[lean sky]

But wich tab did you use when choosing server?

[dense holly]

..... what do you mean tab

It's my server

[lean sky]

Did you use the Server browser or experience

Okej, is it custom or verified mode?

[dense holly]

I have never used anything but a browser in any bf game

And it's verified

The only modification is 150 tickets 60 minutes

I refuse quick play lobby crap

[flint plume]

Mine is also verified but only says 150xp match too. That's why I am asking.

[dense holly]

Until they go back to persistent lobbies or whatever I'll never use a lobby that scrambles.

Even fcking mario kart keeps the same players after a race

[lean sky]

Which mode did you choose? Conquest

[flint plume]

Yes

[dense holly]

Conquest

[lean sky]

What does it say on Step 3 XP progression?

In Portal website

[wicked marsh]

Whelp friends it would appear bot farms have officially been nerfed

Hopefully that means we’ll have more luck with playing actual enjoyable servers again

[flint plume]

Verified game mode: Normal XP progression for this Experience.

[lean sky]

Okey, i will try it also, it worked as of yesterday

[flint plume]

This is the server code if you could have a peek at mine if you have the time. y3py

[still tulip]

it's Modified XP on my end

[lean sky]

How many minutes until you get pass the error?

The red leg server is that yopurs?

[flint plume]

I get launched in now after 1-2 clicks

[lean sky]

This is what ive been trying to communicate but i dont know how to make someone understand, that is not the "garantueed" xp verified mode, that is a custom match

You have to go on Portals website and chose verified mode then go to the "server" tab and not "experience" tab

[flint plume]

yes "The Red Leg"

[lean sky]

Experience tab has almost never xp this whole time the other server tab works in a different way

[steel basalt]

This bothers me the most, I understand portal servers getting XP cut. However there are no offical servers hosting the hardcore rule set. Last weeks hardcore breakthrough playlist was just core, and this week is hardcore rush each server only has 2-3 people. I hope they support the hardcore player base. I also feel like alot of people in here don't remember the EA RSP(Rental Server Program)...where you had to pay rent a private server from EA(couple dollars for a day, upto 25$ for a month), after paying for the game and paying for premium lol Giving everyone a free persistent server isn't the worst they could have done.

[dense holly]

Id prefer I rent it from NFOservers again like bf4 and select where I want my server

[flint plume]

How does one choose Verified Mode on the Portal Website? I don't see that option anywhere. Mine says Verified on the Portal Website.

[dense holly]

Atleast then I knew my european friends and american friends could all pay with decent ping

create new>>> verified

[steel basalt]

That is a fair and valid point, but again you wanted to play with friends and other people, not set up an XP farm.

[dense holly]

Okay but am I to understand this all correctly.... IF BOTS are off... Its full XP?

[flint plume]

Okay, I did that when I made it - it's not a Custom creation.

It's a Conquest creation.

[flint plume]

That's what I am trying to figure out too.

[lean sky]

https://imgur.com/a/K5fCv3I

[steel basalt]

Edit: even the BFPortalOfficial created Hardcore servers state modified xp. However that's just XP, I believe challenges can still be completed as they are task based not XP based.

[lean sky]

https://imgur.com/a/K5fCv3I

[flint plume]

So you saying, instead of launching my server from my experiences go there and host that way?

[long blaze]

They basically just killed the 3rd game mode of bf6

[lean sky]

Christ.. I got a chat restriction for 5 minutes for sending a link. But yes thats what i mean

You have to make the server via EA Portal website and choose verified game mode on there instead. Thats how they show up in the normal Serach browser. However, if you do it that way you are getting the "Bot not deploying problem" and "Global Quota Error"
But there is workaround for it

[still tulip]

No point playing portal without able to lvl up weapons

[lean sky]

The misinformation is strong in this one.

[still tulip]

What misinformation? that is true since yesterday

[lean sky]

s

Im done talking about this, ive have done it the last hour so if you scroll up you can read what ive stated because i have been trying to tell you and you Terra shows up here multiple times a day, see what i type and then again saying No xp

I say this because i dont know if you do it on purpose, im happy to show you in the DM if you want to talk about it more

[obsidian island]

Psy do you mean that you could have bots and still have full xp?

[lean sky]

yes

[light root]

🧢

[gritty steppe]

then how?

[obsidian island]

How? Waiting for 24 players to start a game is ass.

[inner mauve]

dice should put all of the 2042 portal content into bf6 portal

[viscid frigate]

Now the bot fill system is broken in Official Matchmaking. It used to be that when there weren’t enough players, bots would fill the rest so the match could actually start simple, effective, fair. That’s what kept things playable in low-player count regions where finding a full lobby isn’t always possible. But now, it doesn’t even fill enough to reach the minimum player count. The result? The round never starts, and those same players are completely locked out of official matchmaking. It’s punishing people just for living in smaller regions or playing during off-peak hours. This is undeniably linked to the Portal Bot XP changes too.

[lean sky]

Jag har skickat medd till dig

[light root]

We have to dig what 🤔

[lean sky]

I saw he was Swedish and said i sent him a dm

[gritty steppe]

you really confused me untill i remembered my username being in swedish xD

[lean sky]

haha

[shut trout]

Finally 6000 repairs in a match completed, gosh what a crazy task

[fast grove]

could you please show me lmao? i've been playing solo doing assignments 😭

[lean sky]

Ofc

[obsidian island]

How to launch a server easily without bots;
Create a community of people who want to help.
Notify them when a server goes up.
Everyone joins to get the minimum amount of people for that specific match to begin.
When the match begins, everyone except the server owner can leave.

We are planning to utilize this in another discord. Creating a role that would be pinged for server launches. If you'd be interested in helping out and getting help yourself, send me a dm.

[lean sky]

Sounds good like a good idea!

[light root]

The idea of persistent servers is wrong they should made platoons day1 and rent servers

[lunar iris]

Please wake me up when they reverse gain xp + progression in portal mode.

[obsidian island]

Actually if you're interested, you can also just react to this with something and I'll send you the link.

[light root]

Well you must be a yeti bc you gona sleep for long 😅

[errant quartz]

I’ve been doing exactly this via my community however there’s further issues on top of this. When you click host you have no control over where exactly you’re hosting from, it takes the first slot that becomes available when you spam host. Some individuals within mine who are on OC then can’t get in if it’s set too high on one side, and then NA can’t if on the other side. I’ve even had issue as host where it put down a 200+ ping server I couldn’t join

[obsidian island]

Yeah that's why in the discord we are using, people launch their server until they get EU ping and then the notify for help.

It's also mostly EU people in the server

But yeah you need big enough mass so that that system will be semi-reliable.

[errant quartz]

We have everything you outline already set up, only you need at least 16 for rush, 32 (I believe) for conquest. Then on top of that if you are trying to do custom player made maps then populating past seed then becomes the issue as majority of players don’t search outside of verified

[viscid frigate]

I just realized from someone else's experience if you don't have botfill in the Verified Modes... the game won't start because you need 32 players in it.

My 2042 PTSD is kicking in...

[obsidian island]

Yeah and 24 for 64 player breakthrough even though u need 32 for 64 player conquest 😄

[obsidian island]

Can I come leech off of your system? Our's dosn't have enough people yet 😄 I'm stuck at 1/24

[errant quartz]

Youre welcome to join the discord. The modes we stick up are voted on via those that play. Theres about 50-60 in the discord, but this is part of a gaming community for a range of games with about 12k people between them

We launched the stand alone BF part when BF6 launched, but due to all the issues portals had it’s been up/down in gaining players there

If anyone else would like to join for modes such as Hardcore etc and player made maps later down the line let me know and I can invite you

[sour atlas]

Can Battlefield 6 developers make Portal SIM FPS 60 like the official servers? It is currently capped at 30 FPS which is choppy!

[still tulip]

Will there be weapon progression in your hosts?

[errant quartz]

There was when we last checked the files, the intention is to have that always

[still tulip]

Ok i'm down

[valid oracle]

Hello everyone. Can anyone tell me if this has happened? I always played on PS5 in Balance mode. Everything was perfect. This morning I was playing at 60 fps. After lunch, I logged in and the FPS seemed to drop to 30 in Balance mode. It's unplayable. Am I the only one?

[fiery jasper]

Where is the shader cache located in Battlefield 6?

[manic dust]

Portal is dogshit @dice @whoevermadethis -everyone

[upper scarab]

I cannot even get a single person to join in my no-bots breakthrough server.
Portal cannot function without backfill bots and DICE should have learned it better than everyone from 2042

[lean sky]

From Steam

We’re in the process of deploying several backend updates aimed at improving community experiences and encouraging more player-filled servers. A more detailed update explaining these changes is targeted for today.

As part of this effort, we’re implementing several backend changes to support healthier matchmaking and more enjoyable experiences in Portal. These updates will address unintended behaviors that allowed for XP farming or unbalanced gameplay.

Coming today

[manic dust]

Because quick play …. It doesn’t place people In portal servers and it takes 32 people to start a damn game. This entire community section is a joke.

[narrow swift]

you know what's a even bigger joke.... the stupid broken challenges

[dusty hinge]

same. trying to start a hardcore conquest server and seen you have to disable bots. wanted a more realistic hardcore mode

[nova trout]

I might have made some container structures influenced by old Novalogic DFBHD maps haha

[fair axle]

Curious if anyone else has this issue. Cross posting from my subreddit post since nobody there answered my call for help using Portal
https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield6/comments/1oc0ane/my_custom_portal_experience_is_broken/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[heady basin]

So how do you grind 6k repairs in a game now ? Am struggling and it’s honestly putting me off the game 😂

[fair axle]

Basically, I tried creating a custom team deathmatch without modifying the maps and maps seem to be broken when hosting the experience

[heady basin]

Because they are at max capacity

[remote rivet]

Looks like we’re getting a new lmg in season 1

[upper scarab]

I heard that you could take a jeep away from the others and take turns damaging it and reparing

[lean sky]

Who was stating xp and progression with bots dont work? Im doing it right now

[upper scarab]

so are you progressing your weapon masteries?

[lean sky]

Yes

[upper scarab]

and the server says modifed XP?

[lean fern]

If they nerv official ruleset servers .... they should nerv official servers too cause they have Backfill set to on by default 🤷🏼‍♂️

[lean sky]

No

Says normal xp progression

[upper scarab]

what is the name of that server

[lean sky]

Conquest

[upper scarab]

on portal?

[plucky tulip]

[lean sky]

I dont know if it shows, i do it via the portal website and choose verified mode then Conquest, fill it with bots

Then launch game, go to server browser, click on host and there it is

[dusty hinge]

from my understanding if u have bots at all its modified xp. even tho the website says its normal xp

[lean fern]

I dit it too as soon I activate Backfill all goes to modified XP ingame

[lean sky]

Then you have to do something wrong

[dusty hinge]

i just been sitting here for like 15 minutes praying the server will fill for my realism hardcore conquest to no luck lol

[upper scarab]

there is no filter to show only full XP

[fair axle]

Oh, that's a bummer

[lean fern]

And I just did 1h matches with 300% tickets intended for mormal play but More time to play for anyone who wants just like back then on operation spind or locker? Only servers In BF 4 ....

[lean sky]

In the server browser, if you hover over the servers a picture shows up and it says full xp on some of them

[upper scarab]

apparently they messed up something and conquest with bots is still full XP even if it says modified. check the server info

[burnt parcel]

I still cant host a communuty server 🙁

[dusty hinge]

dw battle dad. not even worth it. portal is so dead atm

been sitting here in a lobby for 30 minutes

[lean fern]

It is on my server too but I only get challenge progress but no mastery

[upper scarab]

so it is even more broken

[burnt parcel]

You need 2 people for it to show up on the browser

[rapid path]

Last night half my users got unlocks half didnt

[dusty hinge]

oh that would make sense

[rapid path]

And then when they went to quick play the unlocks were gone 😄

[dusty hinge]

my buddy gunna join then idk if it will even help

[upper scarab]

DICE did the equivalent of dealing with an infestation by burning the house down

[rapid path]

and the neighbors gazebo

[burnt parcel]

Yea to start a seed you need 2 players and bots otherwise you gotta wait for 32 people to start the match but people will join if you promote your server around

[lean sky]

https://streamable.com/g6v84c

[rapid path]

i just wanna run an official community sevrer, i cant gadot to save my life :F

[lean fern]

If they would just do thair job and moderate that shit but no ... they go in and say "screw you all"

[dusty hinge]

dont think you can promote the server in the discord. my buddy and i are in it now hopefully it pops up

no bots tho cuz u dont get full xp

[heady basin]

Bruh these 6k repairs is stupid can’t even hit 4 it’s awful

[burnt parcel]

Well in this channel is ment for portal so you csn say joim this server blah bal

[rapid path]

think of the sense of pride when you hit it

[burnt parcel]

Also under the lfg channel

[rapid path]

how prestigious!

[dusty hinge]

welp if its my time its my time

Aiming to make a more realistic Hardcore conquest. All Maps. FULL EXP
Full Hud no map,1.2x tickets, 40% Health, Faster vehicle spawn time/less health. No Bots = FULL EXP
Code: y372h

[heady basin]

Just want to complete it 😂 don’t care about pride

[copper spade]

I swear I’m the only one who hit 6k in one try lol is it bugged or something? Or did I get lucky?

[dusty hinge]

maybe u will get lucky and that repair bug will happen. sometimes when im repairing the Bradley it stops filling up with 1 bar missing and i can keep getting exp for repairing it

[heady basin]

Hopefully just games don’t seem long enough to get it done

But have been reading that the airburst one for medic is horrendous 😂

[dusty hinge]

could try to join a portal that has longer games and just be a repair god.

[lean sky]

dm

[pale mural]

Cool new trailer. Now fix MR missile exploit

[jolly parrot]

Hey guys,
I created a Phased Squad Deathmatch mod.
I tested it locally and published it.
However, now I have a "Action required" state, after the review.
But what action?
How can I get the information?

[lean fern]

Maybe your mails?

[rugged cradle]

Trying to create a map using Godot. Wondering if anyone knows how to make objects indestructible? I'm making a bridge using plywood objects that I don't want to be destroyed by explosives.

[jade hedge]

It's getting kind of disturbing now seeing how many people in so many different servers do the same thing....... blow up their own team's heli as soon as the match starts out of frustration they're too slow to ever get in the heli 🤣

actually i'm reading too deep into it. They'll just be blowing it up cos they can

[urban sun]

What's the TLDR on the portal changes?

[primal fern]

Its toast, any experience with bots = zero progression and you only get match completion XP. Human only experiences need to hit the required # of players to even start a round which on a 24 player Rush for example is SIXTEEN.

So which random players do you think will sit in an empty server waiting 10-15 minutes for it to maybe fill up? I don't think anyone will

All this could've been fixed by making PvE bots and PvP ones like 2042, where PvE give less/zero XP and PvP ones (the ones that real players can replace), give full credit.

[urban sun]

Problem is people love to exploit instead of playing the way it's supposed to be played. I respect the changes.

[primal fern]

That is not what these changes fix, it pushes people to matchmaking and makes the portal mode irrelevant. Why play somewhere that gives you no progression? Its the same thing they did for 2042. They went way overboard with the first changes to XP, then they walked them back eventually so you could make a legit server and get full credit. The only 2042 experiences that were restricted XP were heavily modified ones, and it was easy to make a legit server with proper modifiers.

[lean fern]

Normal servers get Backfill with AI yet official Portal rulesets using it get degraded in a double standard move so my call remove progress from official servers too or shut the fuck up DICE and do your fucking moderation job

[primal fern]

I don't get why they didn't just use PvE and PvP bots as options like in 2042. That worked great, even if you spun up your own server with PvP bots to farm challenges eventually players might find your server and keep you from cheesing challenges/etc

My group was having a blast hosting our own completely vanilla rush and breakthrough servers, but now we can't because even with 12 of our own players we still can't start the match until randoms show up and hang around waiting for it to start

And for Breakthrough you need even more players to start so its even worse

[lean fern]

At the end (right now) as soon you activate bots you get no XP at all even in a clean choosen setup with no changes

[idle cedar]

Damn guys, I really hope they revert these changes.😿

[viscid sluice]

dumb question... anyone messing with the Godot tool? for map making.. it is currently broken for me, I wish there was another server or something for the talks about that, because it is a whole different "game" (tool) to work with

[lean fern]

The freaking official servers use Backfill bots there its ok ... but if portal servers use it its no ok no more even if intentions are a legit mode ... like wtf

[viscid sluice]

you were able to get it to run??

[primal fern]

Whats not working? Should just be able to open the godot executable and then select the default project in the SDK you extracted

[jade hedge]

Yo I just ranomly went to check the noshahr canals I've been hosting for the past couple days and there's a bunch of people in it. Hell yeah!

[drowsy lava]

Now there is no way to unlock new stuff when just having a good time with friends against bots.... if you don´t want to get on to a open public server where you can spend all your time being death, because you have been killed by somebody at light speed with a knife or whatever 🙂 , and the issue with "Global Game Quote" still Exist, NICE now it is even more fucked that is was before

[urban sun]

Cause people abused the XP system? Why are you blaming DICE for this instead of fellow gamers?

[viscid frigate]

Because we told them what the solutions were but instead they chose the nuclear option. If a mode is a Verified Mode, it should have full XP with AI irrespective of other minimal changes.

[primal fern]

2042 already had a perfect solution for portal, they just threw it out and decided to follow in the exact same footsteps. 2042's portal at launch was exactly like BF6, full progression, then they immediately curbed it like they're doing now with BF6 (where we're at right now). Then over the course of months they tweaked the XP model so it was appropriate

[viscid sluice]

so i get it to open, then i select portal mode and within seconds it closes out; i know this is not much to go on, but yeah i tried like 10 times to get it to be stable but no dice, i will watch the vid and try it out later tonight

[primal fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1LNorfPlNc I'd follow this vid to ensure you have everything set up right

Its a tutorial by Matavatar, one of the BF Portal gg team, highly recommend

[urban sun]

Portal shouldn't give XP.

[viscid sluice]

who cares about xp anymore lmao

[primal fern]

Completely legitimate/vanilla experiences should absolutely give XP

As well as challenge progress

[idle cedar]

2042 with Official settings and bots is limited to 300XP per minute with extremely limited Mastery Progression which feels really kind of bad in practice.

[viscid sluice]

oh yeah i did watch this one, but yeah as soon as i click portal setup it just nopes out without any warnings

[idle cedar]

Ye', that would be fun.

[primal fern]

PvP bots had no restrictions on progression, it might've had a cap on XP per minute but that didn't really matter much

[rugged cradle]

You talking Gadot? Yes, I'm able to place objects, export and open the map in BF.

[primal fern]

Although 2042 did not gate progression through pure XP like BF6 does right now

[idle cedar]

Weapon Mastery is capped to Mastery 12 or something with PvP bots on 2042.

[viscid sluice]

shiee... i wonder what is making my version just auto quit as soon as i click the portal setup button

[primal fern]

Oh, well I never noticed that then despite playing a lot of portal 🤣

Weapon mastery didn't matter to me as much since it didn't really get you anything past a certain point, all attachments were pretty easy to get

[viscid sluice]

i can pull objects in directly from the file directory in, and view them but not actually manipulate any of it because godot has to be in "portal mode" to make changes and export them to upload to bf6(?)

[rugged cradle]

Yikes, not sure. I haven't had an issue with it so far other than figuring out its limitations.

[primal fern]

A super easy solution to BF6 portal is just reduce the number of players required to start a round.

[idle cedar]

Battlefield 7 Portal will be the one.

[urban sun]

What are "completley legitimate experiences"?

[primal fern]

Players will trickle in to Portal servers, I saw it in 2042, but the round has to be going. No one wants to stare at a "waiting for round start" screen

[viscid sluice]

sure... i was thinking for the plywood deal, maybe there is a value that can be changed like damage or something to make them indestructible

[primal fern]

Ones granted full XP defined by the portal editor, thats up to EA to decide and they did it for 2042 before. AKA you can modify things like Hardcore, team size, ticket count, round time, even vehicle respawn rates and still have full XP

[jade hedge]

YOOOOOO I'm not sure if this is technically 100% complete but I just joined the work in progress ziba tower and it looks pretty much FULLY COMPLETE. Anyone wanna see this INSANELY POLISHED WORK OF ART? It actually looks so good that it could pass as a season map made by the devs

[primal fern]

If you played 2042 portal you would have a good idea of what legit means

[viscid sluice]

post link..?

[rugged cradle]

After a bit of research it doesn't look like theres an "on-off switch" to enable or disable destruction. What I did find though, is you can apparently create invisible hit boxes around objects to prevent them from being affected by explosions. Gonna give that a try when I get home from work and see how that goes.

[lean sky]

Is it big?

[jade hedge]

I can't seem to see what the code is while I'm in the match. So lemme give you the exact title. Ziba Tower \ TDM

[viscid sluice]

makes sense

[jade hedge]

There are TWO of these \ discord only shows one

[jade hedge]

It's ziba tower from BF3. It's a TDM map from the close quarters DLC

[lean sky]

Okey, thanks

[jade hedge]

it looks like there's maybe some minor things to still add but this looks so stunning I could shed a tear 🥲

[viscid sluice]

mfw i need to focus on mid terms and not try to break my head with godot not working rip

[errant quartz]

Currently set up a full exp hardcore lobby if people are looking for one
Need players to spin the server up

[rugged cradle]

Have you tried uninstalling it and reinstalling? Maybe something happened during installation?

[viscid sluice]

ye.. i did, same with the gpu drivers, and it's a new 5070 so, idk thst it could be a hardware issue, i might need to like pay for a course on the software or something, it does look very much like blender in a way of complexity

[rugged cradle]

Ehh, its similar to Blender in the viewport but most of the controls and properties are pretty different.

[viscid sluice]

right I just meant the amount of new info needed to learn for it seems like I am going to need a book handholding me through it on it's use 😅 i just know whoever has no issues eith the software can and will make good stuff with it, sadly I think my computer just hates godot for not being the latest software or something like that

[jade hedge]

A bunch of random people already found the ziba tower server I hosted. Everyone was awestruck in all chat lol. They couldn't believe how good it looks. It's gonna be an exciting day when this map makes it to front page with full progression 🔥

the noshahr canals remake is solid, it's all accurate, but man this ziba tower remake is on a whole other level of detail and polish

I mean shit even if it was dev created nothing wrong with the manhattan back drop. Actually looks sick having that. Doesn't really feel that out of place

[azure berry]

Rush server Starting EU search SCW Clan

[wild hatch]

Hello, am i the only one being disconnected from the game and discord at the same time, but only that ?

[shut trout]

Do you have video?

[jade hedge]

I'll dm it but if you want to see it in person then search Ziba Tower TDM in the search of portal

[shut trout]

Thx

[lean sky]

The eastwood map looks really nice

Big too

[jade hedge]

Yoooo there are golf carts on eastwood?? Let's gooooo. The return of non-military vehicles is back!

Now we just need a regular car of some kind and then the hotwire mode that someone is making in portal right now will be even sicker

[lean sky]

Looks fire

[errant quartz]

Hopefully the maps are able to be edited when the come out

[jade hedge]

I don't see why they wouldn't be

[rose quiver]

The brown dusty colours are getting boring

Eastwood is a nice change

Wish they released that one first

[obsidian island]

Search for Y63ET if you want to hop on for some 40% HP full xp hardcore breathrough. 😄 Need a couple people to get critical mass for the server.

[chrome marten]

hope the map editor has more features with season 1

[versed talon]

DICE!!!!! Fix that EOD Bot!!!! It can drive in enemy save zone (Base) and places invisible mines right in front of our tank spawns. It happens in Siege of Cairo!!!!!

[real light]

RAWAY'S OFFICIAL SERVER - Conquest, no restrictions, just pure gameplay, feel free to join. ALL XP, ALL CHALLANGES

[fair garnet]

DICE, please fix these three most important issues, or I'll go crazy playing this game: TTD, vehicle splash damage, and sniper class OP.

[glossy arch]

Is there a fix for experiences not unlocking things?

[ancient mica]

If anyone wants to help make a MOBA in portal shoot me a dm, needing a few ppl to help out with testing and other stuff. Any dev who wants to help as well is welcome

[lean sky]

dm

[prisma quest]

Community hosted serves when? All problems and cheaters gone if they let us.

[jade hedge]

There's parachute skins in season 1. Interesting

[glossy arch]

Are experiences just broken right now?

I'm not getting any progress toward unlocks.

[still tulip]

DICE disabled weapon XP for lobbies with bots

[glossy arch]

Awesome.....................

Well guess public lobbies are just gonna be extra full of long range snipers forever then

[rapid path]

Somone on reddit said republished stuff has xp again today like an hour ago. i cant test this

who knows, dice never announced nothing

[prisma quest]

Its lovely how they communicate with players

[vague bay]

if dice kills weapon xp for lobbies with bots then they should offer a full weapon + addons + gadgets pack like in the old battlefields for the ppl that hate the stupid grind and only want to play multiplayer matches without spending weeks to have useful loadouts

maybe we should ask for a refund for the game since they promised in the portal presentation on youtube to get full xp in portal

[glossy arch]

Where on reddit is that? And what is "republished" stuff?

[meager gulch]

any update? portal still dead?

[storm narwhal]

Just republished my experience and it's still modified XP, 150% match completion only

[rapid path]

ty

[meager gulch]

they are probably confusing match xp with mastery xp

[storm narwhal]

In the portal it does still say "Verified game mode: Normal XP progression for this Experience.", but that has never changed

[rapid path]

it probabbly inconsistant. I saw no xp, full xp, and acting like full xp but out at the menu non of it was real last night

[storm narwhal]

I would be absolutely fine with like 25% XP, I'm just not going to play in the official PvP instances... I am not a seal to be clubbed

[still tulip]

I find that I can progress faster on Portal maps, even with the nerfed bot XP

[storm lava]

Are they going to fix portal or just leave it dead?

[storm narwhal]

no one knows, just silence

[meager gulch]

prob leave it dead. need the servers for their free battle royal

[storm lava]

turning into COD ... oh well

[slate fog]

So guys, as a vet BF player - which is also a hardcore fan, (i & The whole clan literally wont play anything else). So now when they removed the portal exp - does hardcore servers even exist now? - or do we have a propper hardcore community who have made propper dedicated servers without bots fill in so we still can get exp like normal servers - obviously with no bots ofc.

As theres no hardcore officials - we're stucked on portal service, but afaik it only affect servers with bots on right? - so i assume we got some servers who has dedicated HARDCORE players on em? Rush/Conquest atleast.

If someone have server info for that it would be much appriciated. ❤️

[queen thicket]

bonjour,

quelqu'un parle francais ici ?

[meager gulch]

i was looking into which youtubers were posting vids teaching ppl how to make the weaponless bot servers that run in a straight line to get mowed down. turns out he is a CoD guy who makes videos on how to exploit gliches in BOPS6. figures...

[storm lava]

Just the corner camping no playing objective .... I am too old for jumping sliding kids .... get off my lawn

[queen thicket]

Hello, I'm having a problem with vehicle repair and support healing.
The point doesn't count. Is this a general bug?

[meager gulch]

sir this is the portal channel

[storm lava]

Half the challenges dont work

[meager gulch]

and a lot of the challenges are bugged

[errant quartz]

I’ve spent that last 3-4 hours getting a hardcore server up together. Would you be interested in helping me out getting one going and staying up?

[storm narwhal]

If I try to create a new experience I get an error saying, "Unable to create experience"

[prisma quest]

Normal catastrof

[slate fog]

For sure, my irl mate is trying to set up a propper server aswell - But for us to get exp while playing we gotta remove bots, and for that we need a certain amount of players in the game to start. And most people atm atleast, dont have patience. ill pm you

[errant quartz]

That’s interesting I haven’t seen that come up, if you need some help dm me and I’ll see if I can find out why

[errant quartz]

Absolutely dude I’ll send a pm

[queen thicket]

I've already seen that the challenges don't work, but when I'm in the game and I repair a tank, the points are not counted. Once the tank is at full life, the life goes down by 2 bars and doesn't go up anymore.

[storm narwhal]

I have a few already, not doing anything different from the last ones, very bizarre. I was able to last night no issues and I can modify existing ones, just not make a new

[prisma quest]

Teknik says Dice when they see other games having community hosted servers

[glossy arch]

+So does this mean you can only gain RANK from portal matches?

[storm narwhal]

Yup, at the moment, though challenges also seem to be working

[glossy arch]

Challenges? Like deadeye?

[cursive token]

Who's been able to play the new maps? Labs players?

[storm narwhal]

Looks like my session may have expired, I relogged and all good

[glossy arch]

What's your experience code?

[storm narwhal]

Just threw up a simple conquest to see if the XP had changed, but feel free to look it's YQS27

[valid basin]

Portal code X7SP are the official closed weapon maps made by BFPortalOfficial, yet they also state modified XP. Is this a bug or do they actually not work for weapon prog etc?

[still tulip]

doesn't work anymore

funny how the official mode now have bots

[drowsy widget]

So i have a question about the SDK can you import a height map?

[pulsar gale]

You do know Nikola Tesla was racist and a misogynist?

[errant quartz]

Glad it worked out!

[meager gulch]

why? bc he supported traditional gender roles which were the norm at the time?

[teal mauve]

we need native hc modes for cq and rush like they where in bf3/4

[meager gulch]

i see u typing. just letting u kno beforehand that i dont care what nonsense u are on about. this is the battlefield portal channel

[pulsar gale]

He believed women should remain traditional, domestic, and subordinate.

[meager gulch]

dont care

[frail sparrow]

yes

[pulsar gale]

It was a joke

[jade hedge]

https://x.com/Carpo_vp/status/1981015791693959419 - IS THAT BF4 MUSIC ON THE RADIO OF THE VEHICLE?

[dusty hinge]

i think as long as it doesnt have bots backfilling its normal exp

[jade hedge]

You can hear the music flucuate as he moves the camera around the vehicle. It's 100% in game - Holy shit. Can we actually listen to BF4 warsaw in vehicles in season 1 😭 🔥

[dusty hinge]

Aiming to make a more realistic Hardcore conquest. All Maps. FULL EXP
Full Hud no map,1.2x tickets, 40% Health, Faster vehicle spawn time/less health. No Bots = FULL EXP
Code: y372h

server is up idk if it will show cuz its only me in here if anybody is interested
could try searching the code if ur interested

[jade hedge]

@proper aspen Please tell me that is actual in-game vehicle music in that clip you posted earlier 🙏

[proper aspen]

Yes it is!! it's on the "legacy radio" station 🙂

[burnt robin]

is there any way to start the server with 8 players on a 64 man server?

or is 32 really required to start

[jade hedge]

omg. You just made my decade. Thank you 🥹

This game just keeps getting better

[dusty hinge]

i think its always 32. prolly half of the max amoutn of ppl

[junior lake]

I absolutely love that station

why not roll into war while listening to some good ol BF music

[proper aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/mood-dance-russiankiddance-club-dancevibe-gif-21421102

[white furnace]

2v2 breakthrough still requires 24 players, lol. Portal is f00ked, no point playing portal no more 🙁

[burnt robin]

so thats not good. it has always been 8 required for any size server

[storm drift]

Need native hardcore

[burnt robin]

exactly thats all my small group plays and there is no offical hc wtf and no mixed mode hc. we depended on portal for hc now we cant even start it or start it with no xp

[still tulip]

funny thing is that official matchmaking now have bots backfill after a certain time has elapsed lmao

[civic zodiac]

yer dad buys skins on BF6

[charred prism]

Are official hardcore games still giving weapon xp? Or no? I’m confuse d

[white furnace]

4 of my friends already moved back to CoD, more to come I guess XD

[spiral locust]

It's messed up mate. I've logged this bug with EA and have 28 up votes. Needs more support though so please look up my bug report and up vote it. Just Google search "32 player (no bots )" and it will be at the top. Then give it an up vote.

[weak sand]

Quick question: How do you get the Official Settings tag to return to your experience? I'm trying to make a vanilla conquest server without touching a single setting but it doesn't seem to want to give it to me

[light root]

Am myself removing this game when ARC drops

[white furnace]

They're fuming in my discord, more then 2 hours played on steam so no refund. Casual Warzone it is then XD

[dusty hinge]

i wish it was 8 ppl. it would be easier to convince 8 ppl to join the server to get it going vs convincing 32

[spiral locust]

Ive logged it, Search "32 player (no bots )" and up vote.

[weak sand]

The current issue I'm running into. Although now I'm seeing reports on Reddit that some verified servers with backfill bots are giving full xp?

[covert junco]

normal template servers where you just adjust the basics and not the rules i got full xp this morning. but now all portal server give no xp

[misty bluff]

soo dice really doesnt like peeps earning stuff from the training modes

[dusty hinge]

idk i was getting xp on servers that said full xp. but u just have have bots backfill

[misty bluff]

but there is no mode that is only jets like bf4 and bf2042 where you could unlock upgrades for your jet

[covert junco]

i dont mind getting rid of xp farms and all that. but when i payed for a persistent server with full xp on their own conquest template and only adjusting to hardcore settings i should get xp. its impossible to get people playing on servers. we where 12 on my server and now we cant get any progression!

[misty bluff]

yeah.... its annoying cuz the training exprince i used to practice my helli is now usless

[weak sand]

Let me test something, one sec

[misty bluff]

i want to pracitce jets and not get ruined by the jet no lifers

cuz i cant out manuver them and then i have to compete with 3 others on a single jet

[gilded stream]

Seriously where is the dedicated hardcore mode we were promised, bot farmers buggered everything up for us

[dusty hinge]

so no matter what we do. we dont get exp on any portal exps?

[weak sand]

When I make a vanilla server now with backfill bots, it says Modified XP, however Match Completion, Win, Score, Accolades, Mastery XP, daily missions, assignments, and other challenges all appear 100% and in the green

(I would post a photo but channel permissions don’t let me)

[broken isle]

Anyone else can’t join any portal game, it says i need to buy it Never had that

[misty bluff]

sure send

[dusty hinge]

i made a portal that says full xp on the game because there is no bots. but the problem is finding enough ppl to start the game

[gilded stream]

Still no challenge tracking or weapon mastery, their hardcore rush server has everything ticked but you get nothing

[misty bluff]

i want to make a bot only mode with password

[weak sand]

So even though it visually displays everything as working, it gives you no progression? Whack

It sucks cuz I only wanted the backfill bots to keep the server populated until players show up. I got my experience up to 70 likes last weekend, but trying to get 32 people to show up and wait for the match to begin is borderline impossible

[gilded stream]

Yep, was working fine this morning, i think it all goes on wether top left says full xp or modified, everyone I play with plays hardcore, we’re all really pissed off

[dusty hinge]

i got a hardcore conquest with full exp but no players to join lol

[weak sand]

Well that’s the alternative lol.

I remember Sloth Alliance being on of the de facto main servers on BF4 back on PS4 with like 100k favorites. I’m trying to replicate something similar here so there’s a destination server for people to play together, but without the ability to have a favorites list, it really is luck of the draw trying to have people join

I’m fine with bots giving lower xp or whatever. I just need something to let the server live until it fills with players, then have it function like a normal server

This is mainly because they’ll be nights where there’s 6-8 of us on at once, and trying to get into a single match is ass on regular matchmaking.

[dusty hinge]

iv played alot of bf4 hardcore conquest and hc search back in the day on ps3/4. i never made servers back then. so idk how much different it is. im just waiting for ppl to join. i had 1 other person in here for a few minutes. its gunna be hard to get the server going because u need 32 for match to start