battlefield-2042

[iron socket]

that wasn’t a question goof

[cunning meadow]

buncha kidss

[fiery shoal]

no one should be outraged about anything, its a videogame... if it sucks move on and dont buy from them again

[keen loom]

Again didn’t ask

[jade pond]

[fiery shoal]

if i get shitty food i tell them and never come back.. pretty simple

[drowsy shuttle]

i just hope they don't make the aim assist overtop like in warzone, where its clearly OP

[tame cobalt]

I didn't ask either

[keen loom]

Don’t be like Bitcornet cringe

[wise zodiac]

[keen loom]

[lone void]

This might be the most intense and low IQ version of this conversation I've seen in this server yet, which is astonishing as it happens every day

Hello mod

[jade pond]

MODS

[iron socket]

So after dice served you shit at launch you came back? Even after the update with the game data issue? What about the update where the left turning didn’t work at all for the helis? What about the update where mouse movement wouldnt work at all? The update with the bodies that would stay frozen throughout the map? What about the update where the shotguns shot better than AR’s and snipers?

[keen loom]

Too long don’t care

[fiery shoal]

i loathe warzone and infinite, my aim is well above average and yet i can get lasered by any console casual with strong aim assist on

[jade pond]

[fiery shoal]

whats the situation where i came back? i didnt buy 2042 AGAIN... what is your logic...

[jade pond]

[still vault]

We get it. You are not happy. No reason to be toxic about it if you can't be constructive.

[crude surge]

Some people just adore misery I guess

[drowsy shuttle]

yep in close ranges you can clearly see and feel its OP... at long distances not so much.. specially sniping.. but close ranges, fuck that.. it locks on you almost instantly and doesn't move

[keen loom]

Just like you’re a smooth brain, got em

[crude surge]

This dude is one of them

[fiery shoal]

absolutely didnt... may god bless your soul

[iron socket]

Fair I apologize for assuming

[lone void]

Oof

[fiery shoal]

i didnt even pay full price for 2042...

[uncut bay]

dude's just lying atp lmao

[keen loom]

ROASTED

[solid imp]

and even if you did, really no business of some rando's

[wise zodiac]

And even if he did, who cares?

[keen loom]

Bit is the kind of person to flame 2042 all day long but still play it

[fiery shoal]

ehh it was kind of relevant to his point, even if its a bad point

[lone void]

I can say I pre ordered the gold edition and bought BFC for the Rao bundle, and nobody here can stop me

[fiery shoal]

enjoy what you enjoy

[crude surge]

Most the people who got the special version of battlefield didn't buy it for the launch version they bought it for the version a year from launch when all the cool stuff is added and fixed man

I waited till a sale and I'm super happy with it

[lone void]

This is first battlefield game I've experienced since launch

[fiery shoal]

ill never understand how people treat a game more than a product, its like its their first love or something

[keen loom]

Oh he’s quiet now

[fiery shoal]

hes muted

[wise zodiac]

How dare you be happy with a game you purchased.

[fiery shoal]

100% he would still be spewing nonsense if he wasnt

[wise zodiac]

[solid imp]

Not gonna lie, I preordered. But I look at it like this.. average movie ticket is $9-10 in 2022 (I looked it up somewhere lol) for 2-3 hours of enjoyment. After 500+ hours in 2042 I'm down to like $.18 per hour

[keen loom]

Don’t be mad at me pls

[lone void]

I played BF4 last year, and I've played BF1 for the couple years prior on and off. I also played BFV once or twice recently

[fiery shoal]

movies are 15 bucks for me

[wise zodiac]

How dare you enjoy something. This is a no fun zone.

[solid imp]

yeah same idk where this chart I found got its data lol

[fiery shoal]

as long as i get a dollar an hour out of a title im happy

[keen loom]

Oh no

[crude surge]

I've learned my lesson I'll be cynical next time like the Reddit NPCs

[mental delta]

Like the famous no-go zone

[lone void]

Inspired me to check my hours so far, realised it's too hot to go back upstairs to my PlayStation and check

[drowsy shuttle]

i don't think the problem is people pre-ordering or buying the game or whatever.... i think the problem and what pissed people off, was EA selling the game incomplete and with looot of problems at full price. Say its early access and for 30 euros and nobody would complain or be pissed.

[solid imp]

it speaks to a poorly managed release not how much enjoyment I got out of it at any particular time

[plush ice]

The famous? There’s a few of them aha😅as far as I’m aware “no go zones” are the places where even cops don’t really come around for their own safety

[uncut bay]

i think the problem is people buying it at all. Everybody loves to believe the cinematics and pay 100 dollars for a game and then complain that they didn't get what they expected. Like, sincerely, there is nobody to blame but the player for not waiting to see how the game actually is, especially considering dice's past launches

you know what'll really get them? No sales. If people would think as much as they talk there'd be a lot less complaining

[lone void]

Ok but DICE know how to make a kickass trailer

[crude surge]

I think we can all agree dice and EA both dropped the ball on marketing the state of the game but like even cyberpunk 2077 is fun to play now

[drowsy shuttle]

this is also true... but there will always be suckers...

[crude surge]

Games evolve now

[fiery shoal]

i honestly think that games are just so complicated now that its unlikely to launch a game that doesnt get drastic updates after launch, even nintendo is doing it lately

[mental delta]

I know I was making fun of it because English-speaker medias talked about some French part of cities which were pretendly like that and talked about it like it was fucking Irak while they don't know shit about France

[lone void]

Just noticed your name, a fellow Rao enjoyer 🤝

[crude surge]

Exactly this, the new normal is working out the kinks post launch and has been for some time

[solid imp]

Yeah gone are the days of going to GameStop and buying a disc which better be fully functional and you're excited when you find little bugs and glitches and such and show your buds

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah but like, and i already gave here this example, i have a friend who bought 2 gold editions (gifted me one) and he doesn't even play the game anymore... and he only knows season 1 already started because i told him (and since he bought gold edition he have access to season pass)... but he is not pissed about the game or complained how the launch was bad or anything... he simply don't care and just buys almost every battlefield... then plays for a few hours and thats it.... people with money.... and this is the type of customers EA loves and want.

[uncut bay]

yeah that's also something worth mentioning. Those who interact in forums and give feedback, etc. are the vast minority. The casual gaming audience doesn't have enough time in the day to care about these things, they'll mostly buy the newest and coolest and just get on with their lives

[drowsy shuttle]

100% he doesn't even know about the buzz around the game...

[crude surge]

As a stadia gamer I have never familiarized with a better statement

Perfect example of what you said

[sullen lynx]

🦝

[crude surge]

[lone void]

[solid imp]

The subtext is more than I can handle while trying to also do work lol

[lone void]

Go to work

[solid imp]

This was a good distraction though..

[lone void]

Fun for sure

[woven lava]

Anyone else not able to log on ?

[lone void]

PlayStation?

[woven lava]

Yup ps5

[lone void]

I think PSN is down/having issues

I got booted out of battlefront last night, and me and another PS5 user couldn't get into 2042 today

[woven lava]

I was only playing about an hour ago tho, I’ll try another bf game

[lone void]

Hm

[crude surge]

Ye I finished a match on Xbox like 15 mins ago no problem

[woven lava]

Yeah apparently psn is down, I’m still logged into psn but it’s just being weird, oh well

[crude surge]

Sony tings

[lone void]

Very indeed

[crude surge]

I won't lie I used to be such an Xbox fanboy but the ps5 nearly sold me

[woven lava]

Sony skill issue

[crude surge]

I still can't decide between a series X or a PS5

[lone void]

🅱️ony

[lone void]

Dualsense controller should sell you if nothing else

[woven lava]

Im not a pc guy at all but if your gonna fork over so much for a console just go the extra mile for a pc

[lone void]

Shit's bussin fr

[drowsy shuttle]

didn't they said was 2 or 3 maps being reworked for the august update? or was just kaleidoscope? can't recall right...

[lone void]

Kaleidoscope should be end of July

[crude surge]

But game pass that's what's really the decision because I love the new dual sense controller but Sony doesn't have good game that's equivalent

And especially if I'm switching to PlayStation I would have to rebuild my entire library

[lone void]

PS plus just got reworkwd

[crude surge]

But that PS5 is so damn attractive

[lone void]

It's now like gamepass

[arctic grove]

That trailer team who worked on it deserves a raise. 100% nailed the nostalgia

[solid imp]

for awhile there the cost of a GPU was making consoles way more cost effective

[crude surge]

Yeah but it doesn't include all the good PC games like gamepass ultimate does My wife PC games

[lone void]

True ig

Microsoft moment

[crude surge]

It's a hard decision

[drowsy shuttle]

okay. i was hoping more maps being reworked before season 2... at least for BT that desperately needs rework and more cover. bummer...

[woven lava]

True but I still think if your gonna buy a console for half a grand or more if you got it when it was released, then your just better off forking out the extra cash and not being limited

[arctic grove]

LMAO sony copying microsoft

[solid imp]

Fair- I'm on PC so I feel that

[crude surge]

There's still a big appeal to a console tho I enjoy having games optimized and purpose built for the console instead of needing a PC purpose built for the game.

Plus there's always the weirdos like me who enjoy gaming on a TV across the room instead of a desk at a keyboard

But if I was a more hardcore gamer I'd probably lean PC I'm just slightly too casual

[woven lava]

I’m the same, nothing beats a dualshock controller and a tv

[austere hedge]

why does there only seem to be 2 maps rotating on exodus conquest

10 games in a row, same 2 maps

[crude surge]

Bad luck, I get a good mix of old and new maps

Sometimes I'll get the same map twice in a row tho

[still vault]

Random is random

[solid imp]

Just want to say that ppl complain about Rao only looking up at aircraft but there is nothing more fun than clearing a hillside through the tall grass like scan/kill, scan/kill,..

Subsonic rounds takes it to a new level since their map is glitched out while hacked and they can't see the tracers either 🙂

[lone void]

I personally love hacking tanks also

I hacked a wildcat on exposure breakthrough B sector once, he tried to ram raid instead which ended with C5 and a big bang

[crude surge]

Rao was so underrated until late

I still don't see many Paiks tho she has literal wallhacks and still doesn't get used nearly as much

[solid imp]

Once he started spotting people who do damage to him, it moved him from being a curiosity to a really cool operator

He was still a whole lot of fun, even while a curiosity though for sure

[crude surge]

I always run Rao when there's a pesky helicopter just annihilating our team

I'll grief the shit out of a heli main with his kit

[solid imp]

Pilots have unfortunately solved him.. that "hack incoming" means they flare right away

[mental delta]

Rao + stinger

[crude surge]

But flares aren't forever if I don't get the hack then they're spent anyways and catch a rocket after flares are gone

[crude surge]

Exactly

[solid imp]

True but the really good pilots stay low and getting the lock takes too long

[mental delta]

Idk how to play Rao though

[solid imp]

Trees and tiny power lines breaking the acquisition

[crude surge]

As always tho good tactic needs to be met with good tactic I enjoy a good hunt

[austere hedge]

i hate that they wait to put a fix on clearly broken weapons

[crude surge]

Makes the kill that much better

[solid imp]

Imagine if a stinger following a painted target wasn't possible to flare off

It makes no sense that flares can defeat a laser-guided weapon

[crude surge]

I think a soflam'd targets should be slightly more resistant to flares if not immune promote a team aspect hunting targets

[solid imp]

Yeah I'm not saying making the stingers any smarter. They would still absolutely run into obstacles. But if the target is painted, the missile should go where the laser tells it to

[wide shore]

Is there some changes that are different about suppressors and subsonics in public games? Cause when I test them in a portal 1v1 gamemode they are very underwhelming. And the hit indicator thingy doesn’t even work with heavy+subsonic rounds.

But in a public game, I can use light suppressors and it feels like nobody ever sees me.

[solid imp]

It would simultaneously make the stinger and the soflam more important and push the squad play. Or... Hear me out .. soflam is adjusted to be a squad-only paint and Lis G84 launcher could be buffed with a whole-team soflam type ability

Right now she has an interesting but underpowered gadget and her ability is underwhelming as far as being a "good specialist" .. this would give her a tangible role and balance out the soflam/stinger topic..

[fiery solar]

Are servers down?

[crude surge]

Playstation?

[jade pond]

Yes i think so

Can't connect

[crude surge]

PS players been reporting issues today

I haven't been on for a while but had no issues on Xbox

[keen loom]

PSN servers are down, it’s not Battlefield check the status guys

[fiery solar]

Oh that’s weird I was just playing online

[wide crypt]

It's an IR laser. IR is heat. Flares are hot. Makes complete sense. Missile sees 8-10 hot spots all moving and follows the wrong one.

[wide crypt]

different level of attention and ambient noise levels I would guess. If 3 people are shooting at you and 2 are using standard barrel and rounds while 1 is using a suppressor, you're going to focus on the 2 others

Vs in a 1v1 there's no other ambient noise to interfere

[solid imp]

That would make sense so then it's a bug whenever a tank's IR smoke doesn't break the lock? It happens a fair amount locking through IR smoke.. never occurred to me soflam is IR because of that lol

[wide crypt]

Yeah, I feel like tank smoke should definitely break locks

[jade pond]

Yes i have experienced locked on in IR smoke too

[crude surge]

Makes IR smoke feel useless

But the Soflam should at least increase the possibility of connecting with flares anyways in my opinion

[wide crypt]

Missiles need some fixes

I was playing air superiority and shot more than 7 missiles at 1 littlebird

[jade pond]

I'm really happy they changed the c4 drone. Now being a tanker atleast feels alittle good

[solid imp]

1. fix the flares being tied to the pilot instead of the vehicle... you can swap seats to reset your flares (fixed maybe by now?)
2. make the flares something you unlock like you have to unlock IR smoke in a tank

[full burrow]

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/game-overview/specialists

I love how when you press Specialist Details you dont actually get any details

just a useless overview

[wide crypt]

Nah, that would make unlocking things outside of co-op impossible

[full burrow]

already too much is locked behind unlocks

vehicles dont exen start with emergency repair even thought it is the ONLY upgrade for that slot

[wide crypt]

That's way less important than flares tho

I think they need to add more stuff

[solid imp]

fair.. so then yes the stingers need the work instead of the vehicle slots

[full burrow]

so surely if flares is very important then they shouldnt be locked behind an unlock?

[solid imp]

but then why is IR smoke behind an unlock?

[wide crypt]

that was the exact point I made, yes

[full burrow]

yeah I missread the above bulletpoints as you, my bad

[wide crypt]

because it's way less important. It's only relevant against soflam or laser guided missiles from aircraft

And even then, not all the time

[full burrow]

and what do the flares protect against?

[jade pond]

Every missile in a 350m radius XD

[wide crypt]

SAM, Soflam, AA missiles that come as standard on all combat air vehicles, ground based aa missiles

Pretty much every missile that you would shoot at the aircraft

[full burrow]

whats the SAM, a deployable from operator or?

[wide crypt]

While IR smoke does nothing against TOW or M5 recoilless

[solid imp]

well no that would be truly truly silly

[wide crypt]

Surface to Air missile. I meant the handheld

[full burrow]

ah ok

[wide crypt]

And ground based aa missiles was the vehicle

my bad

[full burrow]

but would the smoke clear target lock

[foggy halo]

Redditor

[wide crypt]

smoke should obscure locks the same way trees do

[full burrow]

so then a smoke is the same things as flares?

they block lock on for all relevant weapons

[wide crypt]

except not effective against the primary attack weapons

[jade pond]

Works on Playstation now

[wide crypt]

Flares block the weapons everyone will grab to shoot at aircraft

[lone void]

PS back up?

[jade pond]

Yepp

[lone void]

Epic

[full burrow]

yeah my if I shoot my m5 free fire flares arnt gonna block it

[wide crypt]

IR smoke blocks weapons that a few people will grab to shoot at tanks

[lone void]

They do the same thing, the difference is flares are on air vehicles and smoke is on ground vehicles

[wide crypt]

not really

[lone void]

Yeah really

[solid imp]

So then what about flares and missile incoming warnings getting the work (delay the warning).. flares shouldn't be miraculous "I fooled you" gadgets. If a missile is confused by a flare I would posit that it gets fooled by whichever looks hottest to it then... and if that ends up actually being the engine on the jet because the pilot is an idiot and didn't evade well then the missile still hits them

[lone void]

That relies on heat seeking missiles being smart enough not to see a hot thing and go "boom"

[full burrow]

yeah flares and smoke appear to be the same thing, it might seem like flares do more but thats just cos more things can lock on to air vehicles

[wide crypt]

It would be an absolute nightmare to code. Might be cool for a future game, but shouldn't be implemented in 2042

[full burrow]

but it still removes the lock potential from any potential threat relevant to your vehicle

[lone void]

Flares also last longer on the transport helis

[full burrow]

yeah those last ones it poops out so slowly one by ones

[wide crypt]

Big difference, flares auto break lock while smoke doesn't. When the smoke is popped, it only breaks lock if the tank is obscured for a couple of seconds

and sometimes not even then

[lone void]

Not a huge difference tbh

[wide crypt]

but an important one

[lone void]

Just don't get shot?

[full burrow]

that is a significant difference to be fair. Far more important I would say would be fix the actual locking on with AA gun and Soflam

[solid imp]

The smoke doesn't cause a guided M5 to go flying off in a random direction, it just keeps traveling whereas the stinger decides to do a little jig up in the clouds when it smells flares nearby

[lone void]

All I'm saying is, no amount of smoke or flares can save you from C5

[full burrow]

its sooo inconsistent and tempermental

[wide crypt]

Yeah, AA missiles have some bug fixing still when it comes to tracking

So that they don't just spin around someone for a few seconds, then explode

[lone void]

Be cool if rockets did more than 5 damage tbh

[wide crypt]

We need more rocket types and more missile types

[full burrow]

also what the fuck do the "part disabled" actually cos it really doesnt seem to have much impact

[lone void]

Be cool if jets had functional air to ground weaponry

[wide crypt]

Yeah, jets need bombs

[solid imp]

how cool if a flaming condor engine caused it to spiral

[wide crypt]

Or they should make 30mm cannons consistent

[lone void]

Also be cool if the US jet spawn on discarded didn't place you hovering with no velocity in the middle of some trees

[solid imp]

challenge round- now fly!

[full burrow]

OMG youre a genius

[wide crypt]

30mm cannon on a vehicle: kills everything in a huge radius. 30mm cannon on jet: tickles rabbits

[full burrow]

I know how to fix hourglass

[lament plank]

Same but for the condor lol

[full burrow]

add the blimp from BF1 to hourglass

map fixed

[lone void]

Istg I accidentally spawned the jet instead of the Littlebird and I was like "ok I can try this" and then nope, trees

[crude surge]

Discarded is like the worst map to spawn in any aircraft The super hind I still spawn with no engine in near free fall I almost love tap the ground like every single time

[lone void]

Was a shit match in the end anyway

Came third tho

I've been topping games recently which is wrong because I'm really shit

[lament plank]

7.62 mini guns shred any aircraft, 30mm hokum main canon dents it.

[solid imp]

I would contend they could add the mobile pod launchers from 2142 onto any BT map with skyscrapers 🙂

[lone void]

And like, 4th place with #1 captures on Arica Harbour exodus conquest? What's that about

[wide crypt]

That's the real way to improve every map: bf2142 titans

[lone void]

Just be grateful they removed the rooftop objectives

Bro carrier assault in BF4 is hot, I'd love something like that for 2042

It's conquest and rush, which itself is just breakthrough with extra steps, what's not to love

[drifting kindle]

Hot take what your favorite gun?

[chilly jacinth]

knife

[solid imp]

knife with bipod

[chilly jacinth]

damn

[solid imp]

knife with bipod and laser?

[lone void]

Knife long barrel, 4x scope, flashlight and subsonic extended mag

Also known as that cane takedown from the dozer legendary bundle

[drifting kindle]

Nice

[lone void]

I don't actually have that bundle, I'm not a huge fan of it

[patent heath]

Are EA servers down?

[chilly jacinth]

shouldnt you know that

[solid imp]

I didn't want to be the one to ask that haha

[lone void]

Fr I love the LCMG, PBX and VCAR

[solid imp]

M5A3 is my all around go-to when I don't want to work on tiering

[wide shore]

I’m more so referring to the red dot on the minimap.

[wide shore]

Mine is the AK24

[lone void]

Same, but ironically, I'm leaning towards focusing it down to T1

I'm at mastery 23 rn I think?

[wide crypt]

It's visible with suppressor in 1v1?

[crude surge]

VCAR Best Marksman rifle

[solid imp]

Have you met the BSV-M?

[lone void]

I love the VCAR for how dumb it is, but it's also unironically really good

BSV can perish in hell

[wide crypt]

Best marksman rifle is the GVT 45-70

[lone void]

It's all I ever see

[wide crypt]

All other weapons are for cowards

[lone void]

Entire kill feeds full of BSV

[solid imp]

🤣 you're not wrong I hate that thing but everyone else seems to think it's the best thing ever

[lone void]

GVT is hot but I can't aim for shite

And I also haven't mastered the one tap range

[foggy halo]

Omg exposure needs more helis

[lone void]

I've popped off with it a couple times don't get me wrong but it's definitely a risk reward gun

[foggy halo]

1 heli and 1 tank, the ultimate battlefield experience

[solid imp]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254758

[lone void]

Exposure doesn't have much space for vehicles to be useful more than A sector

[wide crypt]

Exposure is definitely the most infantry focused map in 2042 tho

[peak bramble]

Are the servers still down

[solid imp]

Yes! Which is what 2042 needed. It had 0 infantry anywhere except between a couple containers on Manifest lol

[wide crypt]

ps servers came up apparently

[foggy halo]

🤔

[lone void]

Vehicles in this game feel weirdly balanced, like they're not game breaking (mostly) but they also aren't fun to play against

[wide crypt]

Bring grind back

[solid imp]

fr where could infantry have a hope of just fighting other infantry without helicopters and tanks rolling around everywhere?

[lone void]

Hear me out

128 player breakthrough but with no vehicles

[wide crypt]

I miss 128 player breakthrough

It was literally all I played

[lone void]

Same tbh

So good

[solid imp]

yeah removing that wasn't great 😦

[silk surge]

128p breakthrough was unplayable to me. Just a total meatgrinder.

[wide crypt]

It was that pure, unresolved chaos that I love from Battlefield

[solid imp]

omg I would play this

[solid imp]

But look at how many metro maps are STILL out there today lol... it's what a lot of players want

[wide crypt]

I don't really like metro, funnily enough. Locker was an improvement on it, adding more flanking routes

[lone void]

For now we must play 128 player rush

Metro and locker are super overhyped

Shit gameplay

[wide crypt]

Metro, but the area above ground is open would be sick

[silk surge]

Only metro map I liked was Operation Underground in BFV tbh

[wide crypt]

^

[solid imp]

don't get me wrong I preferred Locker over Metro... For me Grand Bazaar over literally any other BF map ever released because it hit the sweet spot on size and balance between inf/veh

[lone void]

I recommend Rush Chaos by LoGame on portal.

The vehicle rules change depending on who hosts at the time but it has full XP so that's a win

[wide crypt]

Need a map in a full train depot with no vehicles

[solid imp]

except the trains 😉

[wide crypt]

oo drivable trains

[solid imp]

thinking Golmud style train stealing

[lone void]

Golmud such a meme map

[wide crypt]

When do we get "Capture the train" as a gamemode?

[solid imp]

this this this this

where's that EA fella asking about the servers? we have ideas !!

[lone void]

[wide crypt]

New bf2042 map idea. Infantry only on a moving train

No way that could go wrong at all

[fiery shoal]

uncharted vibes intensify

[solid imp]

At night... and the train is still making its scheduled stops

[wide crypt]

A map that's just 2 aircraft carriers would be really cool though

[lone void]

Would itt

[inland kiln]

am I imagining things or has it been a really long while since we got anything for bf2042 from Twitch Prime?

[lament plank]

Wasn’t that a map in BF4 for that? Lmao

[solid imp]

Golmud but it was just a single flag (of many in conquest large)

[wide crypt]

2 aircraft carriers that are a way away from each other where you capture just areas of ocean

in boats

[fiery shoal]

didnt they just have a skin for paik in there?

[lament plank]

I mean once the train made it to the far end of tracks it’s basically uncappable

[wide crypt]

aircraft carriers each have multiple flags

When you cap all flags on the enemy aircraft carrier you just win

[inland kiln]

uh

must've been so underwhelming that I forgot about it :p

[solid imp]

omg your talk about capturing from carriers... I just realized... REVERSE TITAN MODE. Don't go up to the sky... go DOWN to an underwater facility with capture points.

[wide crypt]

^ He's on to something

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. what do you expect from free skins?

[lament plank]

Well “free” with a separate subscription lol

[fiery shoal]

its not like anyone gets amazon prime for prime gaming, its just a little bonus

[inland kiln]

free shouldn't mean bad though. Might as well make something decent

[lament plank]

Sounds like a reason they’d charge more lol

[fiery shoal]

i wouldnt call the skins bad, hell id say they are decent

i got my favorite falck skin from prime gaming too

[wide crypt]

I prefer the 2042 skins over other game's skins

[tame cobalt]

Ugly skin ngl

[fiery shoal]

ill literally fight you

tbf orange is my favorite color so im biased

[tame cobalt]

how's Stray

[crude surge]

Old legacy maps try and stay true to what was available BC2 only had one heli option a troop carrier

[fiery shoal]

waiting for a sale to pick it up, i just beat a bunch of games and just started death stranding

[slim junco]

Man wtf is this

[tame cobalt]

Ugly right?

[crude surge]

There's just not enough decent ones a good portion of skins are pretty indistinguishable

There's some cool ones for sure tho

Just not enough

[slim junco]

Well its a free skin the hell u expect

[tame cobalt]

New boris looks good
New angel looks good
New falck looks good
New mackay looks trash

[crude surge]

Mackay always looks trash tbh

[tame cobalt]

True

[crude surge]

Worst player model imo

[lament plank]

Of course Casper gets shafted :/

[tame cobalt]

Casper is already perfect

[crude surge]

I wish caspers skins weren't just carbon copies tho like I can't even tell that the colors are different once I'm in game

A little bit more to make them different would go a long way

[lament plank]

I mean…why is his battle pass skin at the very end and have a sniper as a pilot…?

[crude surge]

I'd expect a pilot to have recon and stealth skills in case he went down behind lines I guess it makes some sense

[lament plank]

I want a garbage suit ghilie, lots of cardboard, bottles, etc

[crude surge]

Especially since the nopats are supposed to kinda be jack of all trades types

[tame cobalt]

Idk man, maybe he's multi talented

[tame cobalt]

It's at the end because it's cool

If the end didn't have cool stuff then people wouldn't try to go through the bp

[lament plank]

Eeeehhhh…if it was a skin that came with a package of aircraft skins sure. It’d make sense. But battlepass no

It’s not that cool

[tacit sphinx]

none of the other specialists make any more sense, pretty arbitrary argument

[lament plank]

And not overly on character

[tame cobalt]

Presumably his skin is tied to his backstory since it has south africa flags

[tacit sphinx]

i think that's more just. they put SA flags on his skin because he's from SA

[tame cobalt]

Mayhaps

[tacit sphinx]

cool that some of the specialist skins and gear skins in the BP are clearly linked

like casper's pilot suit and the springbok vcar skin

and the k30 skin and boris' armoured skin

[tame cobalt]

Maybe he is a pilot and became a drone specialist cuz he likes flying

[echo yew]

melee is still broken

[wide shore]

From a very far distance. Yes. And using a heavy suppressor and subsonic rounds together doesn’t get rid of directional hit indicator.

[tame cobalt]

Is it impossible to have both a sniper and pilot skillset?

[wide crypt]

weird

[wide shore]

Very. But in-game it feels like I can shoot using a wrapped suppressor and nobody sees me.

Perhaps they’re just dumb.

[wide crypt]

Like I said, in that case different levels of attention

[wide shore]

Yeah, very possible.

[wide crypt]

Also possible a change wasn't correctly brought from AOW to portal

[wide shore]

That-is a good point

Wonder how I’d test them in an actual game.

Gives me an idea for when I get home.

[crude surge]

Awareness changes in big games players typically won't break focus from the main fight if they're being flanked they just end up getting capped and come back for revenge, in a 1v1 you'll naturally be more attentive because theres only one threat

If you can rotate behind the main fight on any breakthrough mode you can literally farm obscene amounts of kills from players not paying enough attention

[wide shore]

I know. But the difference between using a suppressor and not is quite staggering

[tacit sphinx]

the 6ku/wrapped suppressors hide you on the minimap past a short distance

like 12/15 metres or something last i heard

[wide shore]

I know but the values seem wrong in portal

[crude surge]

That short distance isn't as short as you think it is tho

[wide shore]

Especially considering the Heavy Suppressor/Subsonic thing doesn’t work in portal.

[austere hedge]

'map rotation my ass'

[crude surge]

Lol still getting the same map on exodus playlist?

[tame cobalt]

EA should pay the ex dice devs to come in for a week and give the new ones classes

Mostly to tell them all the shit they already figured out that shouldn't be changed

[austere hedge]

YUP

i finally got another map, caspian

10 seconds into the round

the server quit

[tame cobalt]

Lol

[austere hedge]

back to noshar AGAIN

[tame cobalt]

Nice

[fiery shoal]

i get arica harbor more than others

[austere hedge]

wheres that from

[fiery shoal]

stat tracker

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/profile/origin/OrangeNyphon/maps

[austere hedge]

dont sauppose you can filter to the last 23 hours!

24

[fiery shoal]

not that i know of

[tame cobalt]

Did svk get nerfed

[fiery shoal]

no? didnt all DMRs just get buffed?

[tame cobalt]

ye but before that

[fiery shoal]

not that i know of

why would they nerf the svk anyway? all dmrs were pretty underwhelming before the buff, they are only decent now too

[tacit sphinx]

it got a min damage decrease so high power is a 3hk after 150m i think

[fiery shoal]

they actually nerfed it? weird

[tame cobalt]

You know what's kinda funny

[tacit sphinx]

infinite range semi auto 2hk was a bit much ig

[tame cobalt]

People shit on 2042 having a store
But then they rage about dice not giving them tons of content

Like... Why the fuck would they update the game if no one is gonna buy stuff to justify post launch support?

[fiery shoal]

thats been the case for bfv with the zh/1906 for the whole game and they are almost identical in terms of accuracy and rof too

[rocky kraken]

Caspian birder is the best map

[thick merlin]

Is bf2042 worth it? I love bf1 and bf5

[rocky kraken]

For like 20 bucks yea

[fiery shoal]

on sale yea, its in a decent state now

[rocky kraken]

At least you don’t bug everywhere as much

[thick merlin]

Ok

[west heron]

god crossplay was the worst decision dice ever made

[hexed mango]

at that moment it was like 3am i was tryna sleep

[fiery shoal]

why is that? its the industry standard now and out of most titles that have it, it makes the most sense for a bf to have it

[gloomy mason]

is there a way to get the game cheap for ps4

[civic oak]

try cd keys

[solid imp]

Usually I have heard from the console side that PC players ruin their experience either by being the body of players with a chance of hacking or because of mouse/key advantages. Whereas on the PC side we complain about console players getting aim assist. I'm not against crossplay but I also like that it can be turned off for those who don't prefer it.

[violet meteor]

[fiery shoal]

you really just need a good balance of AA between the two, but imo its almost impossible to balance considering different weapon types with different strength and weaknesses and different ranges. on top of that at what point do you make controllers equal to mnk? its all rather difficult, but at least for bf its a casual sandbox shooter so imo it doesnt matter that much

[west heron]

Exactly, but I don't see what advantages PC players have, the game runs like ass even on high end systems so an extra 20 FPS doesn't have any real advantages
To be honest I'm just real tried of getting one or two shot by console players running SVK or crossbow builds because they know all they have to do is pull the trigger and the game does the rest

[fiery shoal]

i do think crossplay should be off by default, and maybe change it to forced crossplay if the player pool is small enough

[west heron]

I wish I were exaggerating but 95% of the time I get killed by a crossbow or SVK it's a console player

[fiery shoal]

how do you even tell?

[west heron]

Their playercard has the symbol for their console in the corner

[fiery shoal]

ah

i dont ever look at that

[west heron]

But if I turn off crossplay I can't ever find a game

[drowsy shuttle]

for me its the DRX... 95% the time i get sniped from a console player its with DRX

or DXR

[fiery shoal]

atm i only die to the bsv, k30/mp9 or sfar

[west heron]

I don't know if console aim assist is a thing when scoped

[drowsy shuttle]

i don't remember if its DRX or DXR

[west heron]

Thanks for reminding me, the BSV is killing me a lot too, mainly from console players

I don't know how it's so powerful

Like 3 shots and I'm dead

[fiery shoal]

3btk up to 150m and its some 400 rof

[low timber]

I has a 3 shot body shot range of 150m

[drowsy shuttle]

funny i think console players don't use BSV that much as PC players... maybe because of the recoil or low rate of fire

[fiery shoal]

BSV is just a better g1-5 (bfv) with a smaller mag.. and i think the g1-5 was busted

[silk surge]

Serious question. Why are people in this community so fucking obsessed with quantity? Like, instead of having a billion different versions of the M4 with billion attachments that virtually did nothing like they did in BF4, they instead added one M5 in 2042. Why is simplicity a swear word for some people?

[fiery shoal]

literally if i dont use the BSV myself, i lose to the BSV way more often

[fiery shoal]

stupid people think bigger number means better

[hearty flame]

i see nothing wrong with having a lot of guns if they act like sidegrades to each other like in 4. it means you can choose guns based on performance and aesthetics rather than just having 1 option like in 2042

[silk surge]

Eh, Gehver 1-5 had a lot less dmg/hit.

[fiery shoal]

granted 2042 does have a lack of weapons

[hearty flame]

eg scar and bulldog

[solid imp]

I don't think I've heard much about quality giving PC players an advantage, that's more an enthusiast type level of enjoyment to see the max level graphics, like folks who turn the HUD off in BF1 type immersion. Lots of PC players turn their graphics down actually. I more meant that mouse+keys usually is considered advantageous in a shooter, which is why controllers get aim assist at all.

[fiery shoal]

yes thats my point.. g1-5 was busted in bfv and BSV is just a better g1-5 everywhere BUT magazine size

[solid imp]

(that was supposed to be a reply to @west heron )

[west heron]

Which one

[silk surge]

I agree. There should be more guns in this game.

[solid imp]

#battlefield-2042 message

I'm losing at discord today lol

[fiery shoal]

i think people overplay the advantages that fps gives, a completely average pc player isnt going to be better just because they went from 60ps to 144hz fps

[silk surge]

I only used BSV up until T1, then I switched back to my trusty old PP-29.

[west heron]

At least a discussion is being had, and that's refreshing

Usually if I complain about AA someone just writes me off saying "skill issue"

[fiery shoal]

stupid meme going on lately on top of people just blindly assuming any mnk user complaining about AA is bad, even though my aim is likely top 10% and i dont like warzone/infinite level of AA justifiably

[silk surge]

I may be a console player, but I don't feel like anything above 60fps is going to matter that much, especially since most monitors doesn't even move past 60hz.

[fiery shoal]

if AA was like rdr2 or gta 5 that would obviously be busted, so theres of course degrees to AA

[plucky pebble]

Still pretty easy to hit your shots with controller

[west heron]

Can I ask how someone gets to S185? I play this game a few hours every day and I've only got like 60 hours in the game since launch and I just got to 60

70 hours I mean

[fiery shoal]

largely thanks to AA

ive played csgo on ps3 and iirc it didnt have AA, its a pain in the ass

[silk surge]

By being an unemployed CompSci student with little to no social life Been playing a lot since launch.

[west heron]

You've probably killed me many times then

If you ever see me being toxic in game I apologize in advance

[silk surge]

It's okay, I deserve it.

[west heron]

No you don't Cole Sprouse

I love Riverdale btw

||im kidding||

[silk surge]

CSGO on PS3.....?

That sounds like hell.

[plucky pebble]

Is it actually possible

[tame cobalt]

Yes

But valve didn't update it

[fiery shoal]

well.. EVERYONE was on the same playing field so yea

it felt horrible though

[sharp marten]

Is Xbox cross play with ps4 or just pc?

[west heron]

Looking at the weapons menu there's a spot for one more sniper, one more pistol/handgun and two more LMGs, does that mean it's all gonna be DLC?

[hearty flame]

at the rate they are adding weapons might double what you listed and thats y1

[fiery shoal]

DLC in terms of PAYING for maps and weapons doesnt exist anymore, 2042 will likely add weapons for every season

[plucky pebble]

Hope not cuz 20k players across all platforms is pretty bad

[fiery shoal]

idk how those two tidbits of info correlate

[hearty flame]

well ya that goes without saying but not related to what we are talking about lol. but thats not counting the portal weapons that they said are being added to aow. unless those are added

[silk surge]

They'll most likely rework the weapon selection screen as more guns get released. Might be sooner than later depending on how many PORTAL guns they plan to remaster for AOW.

[plucky pebble]

In terms of content like 1 map and "2" weaps yeah

[fiery shoal]

.. i still dont get what player count and weapon count have to do with each other...

[mental delta]

At this point I hope the Portal weapons are already remastered for AOW and that they're just doing the last fixes and balancing them, I hope we see them in the next update

[low timber]

They need to reworke the sight selection screen already as when DM7 had the 5x scope it was off the screen, in 1.1.0 it was removed though.

[hearty flame]

a weird tangent sure but maybe he meant low weapon count ->less content -> less players

[silk surge]

There are a ton of things they have to do in order to make the PORTAL guns fit AOW. Add a bunch of default skins, new attachments, new models for the guns to fit those attachments, new badges for each gun etc etc.

[tame cobalt]

I wonder if this latest update ACTUALLY fixes the aim assist... The guy who said the found the issue seems pretty confident that this time it's legit .... We'll see i guess

[plucky pebble]

Considering with the release of this season my friends didnt even updated the game to try it says pretty much about upcoming content

[fiery shoal]

honestly.. i have no fucking clue what you are talking about or the point you are trying to make...

[wide shore]

My fingers are crossed too

[tame cobalt]

@silk surge that's some powerful copium in the nickname, gimme some

[plucky pebble]

Fuck it dont have to explain basic shit

[hearty flame]

too bad they cant just drop them into aow and then add unlock retroactively. but with people having issues getting rewards its probably for the best

[fiery shoal]

another person is confused at what connection you are trying to make too though...

[mental delta]

Yeah I was also thinking about the skins and for attachments they indeed said the Portal weapons would get 2042 attachments and models, I just hope they will have finished it for the new update and that we see those weapons in season 1

[low timber]

I’d love to see more pics of the reworked Kaleidoscope, as it’s ~2 weeks away. As we still haven’t seen any changes of the A, C and E sector side of the map.

[silk surge]

They felt pretty confident that they fixed the 'unable to revive next to wall bug' like 3 times until they finally fixed it.

[hearty flame]

it was stated weirdly but he meant low content equals low players basically
i think

[silk surge]

Yeah, considering how much work they have to do, it would've almost been easier to make new guns.

[mental delta]

Yes definitely because they are finally making new guns from a few Portal ones, when I asked Alex about new 2042 weapons he confirmed they would try to make some other guns at the same time including some carbines

[tame cobalt]

I mean... Aim assist has been "fixed" more than 3 times now... This is gotta be the real one right?

[hearty flame]

just noticed the nickname @silk surge, not sure i trust current dice to make bc3 if old dice couldnt figure out why people liked bc2 so much

[copper fulcrum]

You can make a BC3 game without it feeling like a Bad Company game

[tame cobalt]

The next BF actually HAS to be bc3. It's their only remaining card they can play that will get people hyped.

[hexed mango]

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1549409274891304961?s=20&t=GKYh-dlSnqfL_ppaqlPRQw

ik yall probably already saw it but here's an official announcement

Battlefield (@Battlefield)

Our Specialists are getting a makeover!

While we're still a bit away from getting these into the game, here's a peek at what you can expect to see heading your way in early August!

#Battlefield

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[fiery shoal]

🤷

[tame cobalt]

#984437616181121064

[low timber]

I remember JackFrags having a video where wanted BC3 to be multiplayer only, which wouldn’t make it a Bad Company game as the singleplayer characters are the Bad Company or B Squad.

[silk surge]

I mostly want BC3 for the continuation of the campaign, and I fully trust Vince with that.

[copper fulcrum]

Mackay's pose for that is kinda funny though

[hearty flame]

maybe a 2143/4 might work if they want to do more wacky stuff

[hexed mango]

i never check that thing lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tame cobalt]

Check it now

[hexed mango]

but like besides the dirt.... what changed....

[hexed mango]

i just did

[silk surge]

Mackay went from looking like Woody to looking like the average dude in a Trumo rally.

[hearty flame]

Id be down for that. just give me the bigger wider levels from bc1 back while theyre at it

[bronze steeple]

Next bf will be bc3? What you mean?

[silk surge]

Wym, she looks a lot different?

[hearty flame]

theyre frowning now

[hexed mango]

i dont really see it

[fiery dawn]

Apparently they are changing their facial expressions too right

[hexed mango]

thats a pretty frown-able change

[fiery dawn]

They are making them look more battle-hardened

[violet meteor]

Somebody poisoned the water hole

[bronze steeple]

[hearty flame]

dont be sad

[fiery dawn]

xD

[silk surge]

I also think that BC3 is probable because EA is going to want to pull those nostalgia strings again, and what better way to do just that?

[bronze steeple]

Whats bc3?

[fiery shoal]

what a trivial change

[tame cobalt]

They already played the bf4 card with 2042. They wasted that card. 2142 was never that popular to generate comeback hype. BC3 is their only remaining card

[fiery shoal]

bad company 3

[hearty flame]

if dice made a bad bc3 then itd be their deathknell

[bronze steeple]

Whats that a previous version of bf?

[fiery shoal]

bfv

[orchid zenith]

Is it still 1 attack aircraft ? Per team

[bronze steeple]

I played bf v

[fiery shoal]

V stands for victory

[full burrow]

years ago I saw a video of them admitting why they havnt done another BC game and its cos they didnt actually know what made bc2 so good

[mental delta]

It would have been cooler if they changed their clothes a little bit and add helmets to every of their default skins

[tame cobalt]

V stands for eVentually good

[full burrow]

so basically they are probably just gonna fuck it completely and hope for name clout

[fiery dawn]

yep. even in 128 player modes :(

[violet meteor]

Imagine accidently making a good game

[hearty flame]

sure 2142 wasnt as popular but having 2142 stuff in 4 got some hype. so maybe theres a chance

[silk surge]

People will be like "fuck BC3, 2042 was so underrated smh 😤 "

[mental delta]

Lmao that's like they don't even know how the game could have been good

[orchid zenith]

🥲 seems like I won’t be downloading it back

[bronze steeple]

Will be november 2023 right?

[mental delta]

It would be more like "shit at least it's not like BF2042"

[fiery dawn]

I agree

[hearty flame]

i doubt that. theres a chance because every game has its fans but i doubt the community at large is gonna do that unless 2042 has a HELL of a rebound

[tame cobalt]

It's rush. Rush made it good.

[violet meteor]

The battlefield community doesn't flip flop that easily

Nobody will ever forget 2042, and for the wrong reasons

[bronze steeple]

2042 made his rebound allready i see you missed that @hearty flame

[tame cobalt]

Bf community has severe memory loss, you overestimate them

[violet meteor]

At any rate just play what you enjoy. I still rotate through 1 4 5 and 2042 lollll

[hearty flame]

uh was that sarcasm? cuz i hope so

[violet meteor]

If I had a pc I'd go back to 2 and 3

[copper fulcrum]

As someone who has been a part of this 'community' for a good time, the community does indeed flip-flop like every fucking game

[west heron]

Does anyone ever hear anyone using VC in game?

[copper fulcrum]

I do

[west heron]

It seems like it was one of the biggest complaints people had that was missing

[violet meteor]

All the time

[west heron]

But I have not heard anyone use it a single time

[copper fulcrum]

It's either a vacuum going off in the background or someone shouting at a grenade killing them

[mental delta]

We can't call it a rebound, the game is now playable and enjoyable but it didn't become amazing though, the current state of the game is just what it should have been since the beginning so nothing new until now, just waiting for content in the new updates

[violet meteor]

Pc players not so much cuz they have plenty of other vc options

[low timber]

Or heavy breathing

[tame cobalt]

Cod and bf community is the same "waaaaah new game bad previous game good" every year

[copper fulcrum]

Yes

[violet meteor]

Best thing I found was to not take either community to heart

[bronze steeple]

I am serious bro its a good game since season 1

[silk surge]

Yeah, the community takes a Hardline stance against flipflopping.

[arctic grove]

Can confirm game is in fact good now

[hearty flame]

dunno man. no one really says ghosts is good. or advanced warfare. and cant see anyone remembering vanguard well either

[violet meteor]

And to have a life outside of 1 or 2 hours of gaming every couple days lol

[arctic grove]

Vanguard was good, never played ghosts

Wait

Not vanguard lol meant to say advanced

[violet meteor]

I guess I don't really care about the community opinion then. Been on reddit too long.

[mental delta]

A decent game, not incredible though, it lacks content and it easily becomes boring

[west heron]

God i love matches where the other team controls 5/6 points and my team does nothing and I get blown apart by tanks trying to cap points alone

[fiery shoal]

people complained because its a basic feature and it was a meme to shit on dice for not having, in some 1k+ hours of bf games ive heard someone randomly use VOIP less than 10 times, havent heard anyone in 2042 use it since it was added

basically people are just dumb

[arctic grove]

After 30 minutes in one game most battlefields are boring

[violet meteor]

Yeah 2042 is playable now but by no means held to the same standard as previous battlefields

A polished turd is still a turd

[hearty flame]

or maybe everyone that uses it never came back because there are a lot of other issues that they have with 2042

[arctic grove]

Get off a CQ match and feel like you aged 30 years

[fiery shoal]

if thats the case then it wasnt the vital feature that people made it out to be in the first place

[tame cobalt]

And the only thing people use scoreboard for is checking if there's a heli sweat farming the server

[bronze steeple]

I just played bf v before 2042 nothing else but i didnt touched bf v anymore since release 2042

[mental delta]

That's not true, this game just gets boring because it lacks content, never felt bored in 30 minutes on BF4 for example

[hearty flame]

or the other issues with 2042 still vastly outweighed the addition of vc

[arctic grove]

I do

Then again I’ve got like 700 hours on 4

[quiet shell]

Why are the default flight controls so dogshit on mouse and keyboard

[violet meteor]

It's true for them. Opinions man.

[quiet shell]

Why does DICE insist on inverting controls

[storm wind]

Been playing Battlfield since 1942, I can appreciate each tittle for what it is, I lean more on people have become too entitled in wanting everything to be catered to their own needs, wants and ideals that they're never satisfied with most of what comes out because they can't appreciate it for what it is and just complain about what it doesnt have

[arctic grove]

I got 12 hours on V and get bored of that after a single game

But maybe it was wake island on BT that was the culprit

[fiery shoal]

without a doubt true, which is why i think people memeing on stupid shit like VOIP and the scoreboard are taking away from more important things dice could work on

[mental delta]

Play COD for 1 hour straight and you'll get what boring means lol

[violet meteor]

I play cod more than battlefield these days

[arctic grove]

1 hour of cod is engaging because each game is like a few minutes at most lol

[violet meteor]

Cuz it's not a walking simulator

[hearty flame]

well these issues are really small things that in the grand scale of things shouldnt disrupt bigger issues like maps, guns, and content in general

[bronze steeple]

solid 0.8 k/d on cod too

[arctic grove]

I barely play CoDs if they aren’t modern

[hallow sierra]

why the servers are shit now im getting over 100 ping

[hexed mango]

ive never really played cod

[violet meteor]

I forget, still plenty of people in both communities that can't take the fact someone likes or dislikes something more or less than them.

At a psychological level it's because you can't understand why and it angers you

[surreal portal]

Does playing against bots give you xp?

[hearty flame]

i find that its easier to play longer on cod cuz they have a better good map to bad map ratio than bf

[violet meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/waynes-world-change-nochange-gif-19341811

[hexed mango]

i dont dislike it
although the only one ive played is infinite warfare, which ive heard is mid
i would give it a go but im just too lazy

[fiery dawn]

Yes but very limited. And you can gain mastery progress with weapons, vehicles, gear, etc. up to Mastery level 12

[fiery shoal]

it shouldnt but resources are finite so there have to be decisions somewhere

[violet meteor]

Bots are more fun cuz they actually revive now

[bronze steeple]

I played cod to many had all from ps2 to ps4 and have modern warfare on pc

[hearty flame]

if you want a pretty good cod, try black ops 2. its got decent to good zombies, interesting campaign with branching paths, and the mp was great

[arctic grove]

Definitely try black ops 2

[fiery dawn]

Infinite Warfare was really bad. The only good “modern-setting” cod imo since the oldies is Modern Warfare (2019)

[arctic grove]

I second that

[hearty flame]

sure resources are limited but its a studio of 700 with support. this shouldnt require all hands on deck. just a team of ui, coders, and software engis

[fiery dawn]

Actually yeah completely forgot about Black Ops

Black Ops 1 and 2 are not bad

[arctic grove]

The only thing in my opinion bad about infinite was it’s multiplayer

[hearty flame]

i wish infinite warfare put a bit more into its campaign. its got great ideas but they were handled poorly

[fiery dawn]

Yeah the campaign was pretty cool imo but not executed as well as it could’ve been and the multiplayer was straight up trash

[fiery shoal]

sure, id still argue id rather have those few resources go absolutely anywhere else than though

[violet meteor]

Someone here thought graphic designers were in charge of weapon balancing like a month ago

[bronze steeple]

https://youtu.be/xC7kajtCqrY

[hearty flame]

those few resources probably wouldnt make that much of a difference on bigger issues with the amount of people dice already had on them

[bronze steeple]

I must say this looks great new mw2 release 2022

[arctic grove]

That’s why infinite warfare 2026

[hearty flame]

theyre a graphics designer so they must make the graphics on the guns
lol

[fiery shoal]

no, still a better use than 2 features that essentially change nothing though imo

[violet meteor]

Same people who think the marketing team is in charge of map design

Like yelling at a grocery store worker for the prices

[fiery dawn]

I appreciated the scoreboard addition. It should’ve been there from the beginning

[bronze steeple]

Watch this👆 october 28 2022

[hearty flame]

well agree to disagree at this stage i guess. they got added and the crowd went mild

[violet meteor]

Yeah it's an fps, it should have been there when they were laying the groundwork lol

[fiery dawn]

Seemed like Dice was leaning in the “participation trophy” direction to me

[fiery shoal]

there was a scoreboard at launch, just not a traditional scoreboard.. literally all the new scoreboard adds is being able to see where you individually place on your team

[violet meteor]

Then you have people like "we don't need one" it's like, no you don't need one but it does nothing to the core mechanics by having one

[fiery shoal]

you were able to see your individual kills/deaths/etc stats before

[fiery dawn]

What if I wanna see how trash my squadmate is really doing?

[fiery shoal]

i mean cool? really doesnt add anything to the game

[violet meteor]

Like half the community was just rolling over and accepting something as simple as a scoreboard could be done away with. If that happened with the cod community the reaction would have been way stronger.

[fiery shoal]

again, there was a scoreboard.. just not the one people wanted...

[violet meteor]

It was a shitty scoreboard

If it wasn't broken why did they try to fix it

[bronze steeple]

that sucked balls bro

[fiery dawn]

That’s why I say “participation trophy” territory. It’s like they were trying to hide the performance of everyone from each other for no reason to be more inclusive or something. In the same vein, where’s our all-chat?

[fiery shoal]

100% was a dumb scoreboard, you just keep wording it like there wasnt a scoreboard at all

[bronze steeple]

Anyone watching this???

[violet meteor]

It's because nobody ever complained about the bf scoreboard so they took that as nobody liked it either lol

In previous titles

[hearty flame]

just like the class system too it seems lol

[rocky kraken]

hourglass is so horrendous

[violet meteor]

I mean....a shitty scoreboard won't make me look at it so it may as well not be there

[fiery shoal]

i think they were just trying to solve a minor problem with there being 128 players

[fiery dawn]

Multiplayer game developers should provide mute functions for people and leave it at that. Stop trying to prevent any negativity or trash talk from happening lol. It’s a competitive multiplayer game smh

[hallow sierra]

now who didnt want bf to add a scoreboard

[fiery dawn]

Yeah easily worst map

[fiery shoal]

yea.. previous titles didnt have 128 players either...

[violet meteor]

Oh they didnt?

Hey everyone

[full burrow]

ive been hoping hourglass just gets deleted

[violet meteor]

Previous battlefields didn't have 128 players

[fiery shoal]

its not like 2042 just changed the scoreboard for no reason, you can easily attribute to the squad score system taking place because they doubled the player cound

[fiery shoal]

seemingly news for you since you cant grasp the idea of a scoreboard changing because of the player count increasing...

[violet meteor]

Well when you can't even change squads it doesn't even matter lol

[full burrow]

you can

[violet meteor]

Since when

[fiery shoal]

you can 100% change squads...

[full burrow]

dunno how to on ps5

[arctic grove]

You’ve always been able to switch squads

[fiery shoal]

and what does that have to do with scoreboard anyway?

[violet meteor]

Yeah see idk on console

[arctic grove]

Just can’t choose which one you want

[fiery shoal]

youre logic is extremely sus

[full burrow]

but on pc you right click on your name when you view your team and squads from spawn meny

[fiery dawn]

That squad system is still shit though

[violet meteor]

It just gives me the option to kick or leave really

[hexed mango]

fr i liked the old squad scoreboard a bit

[fiery dawn]

Change squad function doesn’t work as well as it used to

[violet meteor]

Yeah again. If shit isn't broken why fix it

[hexed mango]

but yeah we need a full squad management system ;(

[fiery dawn]

Doesn’t let you actually pick a squad to change to

You can just change squad to get out of the one you’re in if you don’t like it for some reason

[violet meteor]

Elaborate

[full burrow]

well if youre lucky you can cycle thru the not full squads

sometimes you get unlucky and have to play solo

[violet meteor]

If I leave a squad idk how to join another

[hexed mango]

we should be able to make our own squads, join other squads, view other squads, etc (also switch teams)

[fiery dawn]

Just like BF4

[hallow sierra]

yes

[violet meteor]

Yeah like it shouldn't be that difficult when I can do the same shit on my ps5 with previous battlefields lol

[full burrow]

I dont have about manual team switching but ive never seen autobalance

[hexed mango]

there’s only a button to change squads, usually just putting you in one by yourself

[hallow sierra]

i dont want to leave matchs cuz im in a team dat i dont like aka defense

[arctic grove]

Yeah it usually puts ya in a solo squad

[violet meteor]

Yeah, broken as shit my boy

[hexed mango]

exactly why we need a new system, like i just said

[fiery shoal]

"we now have double the player counts, how do we get the general gist of information that players want on a single screen?"
"why dont we just show general squad stats on the scoreboard on the "rankings" side and have individual stats off to the side"

[full burrow]

its not broken it just means there arnt not full squads

[violet meteor]

Get out of here with your logic

[full burrow]

if the server is full and everyone is squaded up and you are the only one to leave your squad you have no place elsewhere

[arctic grove]

Brain emoji

[violet meteor]

Vic never got put into a sniper only squad

XD

[wise zodiac]

That sounds brutal.

[full burrow]

I do sometimes play solo when I leave a shitty squad and there isnt another one

[hexed mango]

anyways back to farming F35

[fiery dawn]

Good hunting sir

[violet meteor]

But I hate having fun and squading up before matches with the friends I play games with

Wah

[fiery shoal]

i cant tell if you think you cant squad up with friends before a match or not...

[violet meteor]

[wise zodiac]

That's why I want persistent servers so I can play with my friends in the same lobby

😩 😩

[fiery shoal]

the only problem is playing with more than 4 friends in the same lobby

[violet meteor]

Leave me alone

[wise zodiac]

[fiery shoal]

which at the same time is a gift since its hard for clans to pub stomp

[violet meteor]

There is only one clear answer here everyone

2042 needs to go milsim

[hallow sierra]

?

[arctic grove]

2 shot ttk with pistols moment

[quiet shell]

Would be nice if DICE locked off rounds thay had less than 100 tickets on either side. Love joining a game at 30 tickets left and getting a loss I had no factor in

[hexed mango]

tbh i dont like persistent lobby idea for aow
although ive already said this all to you before

[arctic grove]

Why not?

[full burrow]

lol im fighting the Ottomans as the glorious empire of Arabia

[fiery shoal]

persistent lobbies are a double edged sword

[hexed mango]

cause i dont want to play with the exact same team with and against over and over again

[full burrow]

(Europa Universalis 4)

[violet meteor]

They are so persistent

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah understandable

[dapper summit]

Team scramble

[violet meteor]

It's like leave me alone server

[wise zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/say-what-dunno-shrug-john-krasinski-idk-gif-16557956

[arctic grove]

Sometimes I wanted to escape 4s ace pilots more than anything

[hexed mango]

i would rather have the matchmaking start right as the server ends, so that after EOR and once it finds a match, i go straight into that, no booting back to lobby
but i also get different people to play with

if you're in a party, you stick with those people, cause that's your party, but the rest of the people in the match would generally change due to re-matchmaking

[violet meteor]

I'd like to talk with the pc players at round end

[hallow sierra]

today i gotta an experience on what happens when someone uses a heli besides shelth heli

[fiery dawn]

With the size of the player base right now, unless I switch game modes between matches, I usually end up playing with almost all the same people in the next match anyway lmao

[hexed mango]

yes that'd be fun ngl

[hexed mango]

true but ive noticed in bt i get different people

[hallow sierra]

i play with the same ppl in bt

[arctic grove]

I’ve been noticing the same players in CQ128 for a couple months lol

[violet meteor]

Woot, 25 off a 2 dollar scratcher

Time to buy boins

[hexed mango]

also i wouldnt really love a server browser in aow (cause i dont want to sort through ping and players and gamemode and map) unless it had a matchmaking feature aswell, like how bfv does it, you have a list of servers, but also the ability to matchmake with those servers (something portal doesnt have)

[hallow sierra]

idk why ppl say portal is a "server browser" which it isnt

[violet meteor]

Yet I browse servers on it

[fiery dawn]

[hexed mango]

like perri said, you browse servers on it.

[hallow sierra]

with less ppl in it

[violet meteor]

It's cuz it isn't called "perusing internet waiters"

[fiery dawn]

I think joka means that it’s separate from AOW

[unborn herald]

still has AOW content

[fiery dawn]

That AOW should have it’s own server browser

[unborn herald]

pointless, portal has already one

[fiery dawn]

Portal browser doesn’t fulfill that need

[unborn herald]

it does

[fiery dawn]

What if I want a server browser in AOW so that I can just make sure to avoid playing Breakthrough matches on Hourglass because I hate that map lol

[unborn herald]

pointless, portal has it

[hexed mango]

im starting to think that botb is fucked up
this is the 4th rendering malfunction ive gotten in the last 2 days, all 4 have been on this map

[fiery dawn]

Portal doesn’t have as many BT matches going. It’s mostly hardcore servers and 128p rush

[fiery dawn]

You were playing Star Wars there for a sec lmao

[hallow sierra]

i never seen a server in portal dats has over 30 players with Bt

[unborn herald]

make your own

[hexed mango]

again if they add a browser, they have to also add a quick matchmaking system that allows you to filter maps, gamemodes, etc so that you dont have to manually sift through it all yourself.

[hexed mango]

you cant host BT on portal

portal doesnt support bt yet

[fiery dawn]

mAkE yOuR oWn

[hallow sierra]

and besides less ppl would play it cuz no one is really play portal

from what i seen

[fiery dawn]

yeah so I can fucking sit there in my own little breakthrough match and wait for nobody to join

[violet meteor]

Idk when player count for exposure died down I started using portal

[fiery dawn]

also yeah, can’t even play BT in portal yet

[violet meteor]

It was fun playing those 80000000% damage modifier servers lol

[fiery dawn]

nothing anybody has said yet is a good reason for AOW to not have a server browser

[violet meteor]

Well maybe we aren't the people you should be talking to about it lol

[fiery dawn]

I meant the dude who was demanding that portal server browser serves the purpose lol

[violet meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/pawn-pawn-star-20bucks-the-best-i-can-do-the-best-i-can-do-is20bucks-gif-15253458

[fiery dawn]

not everyone here

Would gladly take 20 bucks

[violet meteor]

Good boins money

[hexed mango]

that was my kill

tbh i think portal is fine as it is in terms of the server stuff

[violet meteor]

Make everything that is turquoise, yellow. Then we can talk.

[hexed mango]

i think a browser and traditional hosting system for aow would be nice, so that we can have servers that are up all the time

[hallow sierra]

im wondering how dice would fix aim assist in the next update

[violet meteor]

Make it aimier

[hexed mango]

aim it

[fiery shoal]

im worried they are going to make it busted to please console casuals

[violet meteor]

Yes please

[fiery shoal]

(not saying all console players are casual)

[rocky kraken]

i played on xbox recently and it feels like i was free aiminf

[violet meteor]

Sounded like it

[fiery shoal]

thats why i clarified

[violet meteor]

Mouse aiming is king, I do miss it

[fiery shoal]

i feel like most games balance AA to the point where casual console players can compete with dedicated mouse users, which is just bs

[violet meteor]

But I also hate the snap to of aim assist

[hexed mango]

ngl bf3 conquest on exposure is so fun

[violet meteor]

It's actually gotten me killed more than helped in the sweaty moments

[fiery shoal]

snaps to the wrong target?

[hallow sierra]

idk if 2042 aim assist has slowmode AA

cuz mines at 30

[violet meteor]

No just sudden jerks

[rocky kraken]

why does bf3 conquest say its on the bf3 maps but i get put on 2042 maps

[violet meteor]

Throws you off when you have your eyes already trained on another spot

[hexed mango]

cause the old one was just on those maps, they updated it to have all the maps

[fiery shoal]

like if someone walks across a person youre already aiming at? thats aim stick

[hexed mango]

they just didnt change the desc

[rocky kraken]

ahhh

[fiery shoal]

snap is when you ADS and it centers on a target, stick is how strong it stays on target

[rocky kraken]

okay

[hexed mango]

and i meant he description isnt wrong.... it does have those maps

just it also has other maps lol

[rocky kraken]

thanks

[hexed mango]

ye

[wide shore]

Okay, so I tested the suppressor stuff in a real AOW game. And the results are basically the same as in portal.

[violet meteor]

This is why I played everything in 2 and 3 with a joystick

[hexed mango]

do suppressors even do anything lel

[hallow sierra]

well it makes the recoil worst

[violet meteor]

They make cool noises

[fiery shoal]

reduce sound, not show up on minimap, and remove hit direction indicator afaik

[wide shore]

This is the distance where light suppressors shield you from the minimap.

[low timber]

Aka 20m

[wide shore]

The hit indicator (heavy suppressor and subsonic) does NOT work.

[hexed mango]

i thought you needed subsonic for the no hit markers

oh yeah

[violet meteor]

Why does that not look like 20 meters

Odd

[wide shore]

Fov maybe

[arctic grove]

Fov setting probably

[silver lantern]

Ngl boris is daddy

Falck is mommy ;)

[wide shore]

Weird that they added the direction indicator thingy in the patch notes. But it doesn’t work

[low timber]

@wide shore I does work, just not the way we thought.

[mental delta]

Lmaooooo wtf

[hexed mango]

works fine for me

[violet meteor]

Dang something doesn't work in 2042

Oops

[wide shore]

Oh, what? That’s terrible

[silver lantern]

Shocking

[hexed mango]

you mean the thing that appears when you're retreating

[pine roost]

just saw a video that demonstrates just how broken the mouse input is, it's one of the main reasons I stopped playing so i hope it is fixed soon

[hexed mango]

cause that works fine

[wide shore]

Nah, direction indicator when someone shoots you with heavy suppressor+subsonic

When they explained it in the patch notes, I thought it would be like BFV grease gun. Where they just don’t get an indicator at all

That’s almost useless

[low timber]

Imo subsonics and light suppressors should also have some kind of bonus like subsonics and heavy suppressor, like maybe reduce the 20m range to 10m or 0m.

[hexed mango]

I just dont use suppressors because i dont see their value

[violet meteor]

Yeah I'm no sneaky boi

[mental delta]

You don't get spotted on the mini-map

[wide shore]

Wrapped suppressor is good on some guns. I use it on the LCMG and the PBX. It’s useful sometimes

I also use it on the AK

[hexed mango]

yeah but like in BT or Rush thats pretty useless

[mental delta]

Why so ?

[hexed mango]

cause 9/10 times you're pushing with other teammates around you

[silver lantern]

Tbh it doesnt hurt to use a suppressor

[hexed mango]

which means if the enemies know where one is, they most likely know where most the other people are cause theyre in the same area

[hexed mango]

doesnt it literally make your gun worse tho

[violet meteor]

Yeah I'm rarely solo, one fuck up and you're stuck respawning.

[silver lantern]

Not really

[wide shore]

Wrapped does nothing to damage.

The other one does

[hexed mango]

compared to arcom

• projectile velo
• accuracy
• range

[wide shore]

It’s pretty negligible.

[hexed mango]

idk i still wouldnt personally trade a bit of stealth for that

[hallow sierra]

idk what projectile velo means

[wide shore]

It’s better for conquest

[arctic grove]

bullet speed @hallow sierra

[hexed mango]

plus, on an smg, "minimap stealth at long range" isnt useful

[hallow sierra]

oh

[hexed mango]

maybe for a sniper, sure

[arctic grove]

more means easyer and faster hits

[wide shore]

PBX is good at medium range

[arctic grove]

long range helps lot

less lead

[low timber]

20m isn’t that long range, but it does still give lots of room for you to be spotted

[silver lantern]

Ngl ps4 servers are literally fucking empty lmak

Lmao

[hexed mango]

is that the limit? cause it doesnt really say

[silver lantern]

Hopefully it's better on pc

[violet meteor]

Anyone else run semi auto lmgs with long range scopes?

[arctic grove]

agreed

[hexed mango]

it just saying "long range" is kinda useless tbh

[silver lantern]

People do that?

[hexed mango]

when i think of long range i think 100m +

[arctic grove]

trying ps4 myself conquest exposure i put in 1 people lobby xd

myself

[violet meteor]

Yeah it's like a dmr with 200 rounds lol

[silver lantern]

I have to use portal

[low timber]

Yes, has been tested by many people, even by Jack or Level before they reworked all the attachments.

[wide shore]

This is the range it starts to work

[arctic grove]

switch mode

[silver lantern]

Portal is fine tbh
More content anyways

[hexed mango]

again its not helpful if it doesnt say it ingame for the people who dont feed off of the other people

[arctic grove]

use official portal work fot me

for

[low timber]

Tho the pistol suppressor is worthless if it’s the same as light suppressors.

[wide shore]

Absolutely

[silver lantern]

We need more pistols

[low timber]

True, like the scopes should have in the negatives list

• Scope Glare

[silver lantern]

Best pistol is the revolver ngl

Hits like a train

Absolutely demolishes

[violet meteor]

I want a 8x scope for it

[hexed mango]

yeah

anyways what guns are practical for a suppressor, and which suppressor

[violet meteor]

Bsvm

[low timber]

I have not done any testing to the G57 suppressor but it’s supposedly one what keeps the velocity but looses on damage, and maybe still reveals under 20m. Which does make it useless

[arctic grove]

how tf is ark survival game top 10 players online 🤣

[hexed mango]

oh reallyt?!??!?! WOW I would have NEver Guessed!

[silver lantern]

[violet meteor]

Lol damn I caused a ruckus

[silver lantern]

Do yall use burst mode on the g57?

I do

[arctic grove]

i remember i played ark survival long time ago. busy mess. idk how the menaged top 10

[violet meteor]

Ark ruined my former roommates life lol

[silver lantern]

Also I dont like the fact we have to ads to switch fire modes

[arctic grove]

didnt bf 2042 beated halo 😂

dont see on ps4

[hexed mango]

nobody actually answered my question

[low timber]

I’d say K30 with the Type 4 should be alright as it has fast enough rate of fire to not be noticeable much.
6KU for snipers to not loose velocity, especially on the GVT as you’ll be going for headshot anyways so it’s pretty much no negatives at all.

And GVT doesn’t even have long barrel.