battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

He likes the game but needs social validation. Hating 2042, wanting a BF3 remake, etc are all the socially cool things to do

[simple reef]

DICE have started engaging with that sub again now.

[simple reef]

2042 isn't even bad. It's just evidently underbaked in a lot of ways.

I played way before Season 1 and still enjoyed it. It's already come a long way.

[silk jasper]

Coincidentally they've in general, starting to engage a lot more with the community after S1's somewhat positive reception. They were hiding in their holes prior

[arctic grove]

There was a dev who posted this vacation time, then some asshole made a post demanding that they fix the game and not take their vacation time. So I told the guy to go fuck himself and get a job lmao

[foggy halo]

Some things need to be said twice in the face of what I see as a disastrous and boring story repeating, it was for them not for you

[civic oak]

I think there is a few issues they could work out. But I still really enjoy the game but that is just my opinion

[arctic grove]

You as player do not decide on the Dev's vacation

[silk jasper]

Seems like your response is more toxic than the OG post probably because why you got banned by the officials

[foggy halo]

Cringe weapon

[echo yew]

i think they should fix

balance
map design
gunplay
specialists into classes

[echo yew]

you will be boiled

[foggy halo]

Just like the panzerbush

[echo yew]

the NTW being a hilarious MW19 HDR copy would fit 2042

[simple reef]

Literally, can you imagine working hard on a product and having a well-deserved break, then being told by some angry neckbeards that you need to fix your game.

I'd love the people who say that sort of shit to actually work as a game developer.

[left hollow]

They'd be unable to

[arctic grove]

Already being worked on, gunplay is fine though imo

[echo yew]

i asumed he meant that brutal expectations were gamers wanting DICE to work in holidays

[left hollow]

Probably would quit within the first week

[simple reef]

As someone who has actually worked in a game company before, it's not the easiest work. That's all I’ll say lmfao.

[foggy halo]

Brutal expectations = having standards

[echo yew]

personally i'd get rid of spread as a whole and increase bullet velocity on all guns except the SWS and DSR

[silk jasper]

Pipe down its only natural for people to respond in that sort of manner especially within a gaming community where they were promised a game that would be somewhat working but got the opposite

[arctic grove]

Toxic lol. That's bullshit, individuals who work get to use their vacation time. It's not up to entitled ass gamers to decide that

[arctic grove]

Ah I hear ya, interesting suggestions

[simple reef]

The game still worked lol.

[fiery shoal]

cash register button pushers harping devs to work 24/7 while downplaying the work involved

[foggy halo]

🤔

[echo yew]

but im 99% sure the community interpreted it as having a functioning game were brutal expectations

[simple reef]

It's not like you couldn't play it.

[echo yew]

barely

[arctic grove]

"toxic". You use that word as if you know what it means hahaha

All I heard about the brutal expectations comments were people wanting the game to transform into 4 or something

[silk jasper]

It was playable but by the bare minimum standards

[wide shore]

Which is hilarious.

[arctic grove]

Exactly

[fiery shoal]

2042 100% was working, there of course were problems here and there but it definitely worked, and technically they didnt promise a certain level of functionality (but since they hit functional in the first place they are clear of any actual wrong doing)

[arctic grove]

About as playable as 4 on release

[wide shore]

Idk how people cannot use context clues to understand a situation.

[echo yew]

to me launch was like 2/10
1 point because it worked
1 point because it mildly entertaining

[civic oak]

Biggest fix I'd like to see is better optimization for pc. A high end pc should be getting g more than 75-90fps

[simple reef]

If you actually still use "brutal expectations" as a means to criticise DICE, find something new.

[arctic grove]

Especially on PS5, 2042 worked just fine on release

[simple reef]

Yeah, this is something I will call them out for.

[arctic grove]

Technicality wise, there were bugs but generally even around launch the game worked well. I can only really remember persistence data bugs during the preorder week

[simple reef]

It's unacceptable.

[foggy halo]

I don’t really follow what they say, I’m not that bored

[echo yew]

now i say 4.5/10
2 points because it works fine
1 point because it's midly entertaining
1.5 points because of progress from launch

[fiery shoal]

on pc the only problem i had at launch was hit reg being shitty while in the middle of a 30v30 fight

[silk jasper]

I enjoy the game now but I was well within my rights to criticize the game as is other people prior to S1

[echo yew]

one thing i despise

[arctic grove]

RBD used to suck lol, glad they got rid of that (mostly)

[echo yew]

is how everyone is convinced 128 players is the problem

[silk jasper]

Or am I just a "typical redditor" ?

[fiery shoal]

yes you can criticize the game, but to the degree and outright lies that were said, no

[wide shore]

Criticizing is fine. Some people just took it too far

[arctic grove]

You sound like one with some of the stuff you just said lmao

[simple reef]

I'm waiting for someone to join in this discussion and say "game runs fine on my 3090 and 5950X!"

[silk jasper]

How

[foggy halo]

It took them 9 months to patch c5s drones

[arctic grove]

I kinda want it to stay lol but I get it, I guess maybe the map design didn’t work well with it

[echo yew]

ikr LMAOAOAOA

[civic oak]

Lmao there's always that one

[foggy halo]

Which is crazy

[severe carbon]

Is being able to slide down a set of stairs a new feature from the last update? I'm fairly certain stairs used to have the same slide distance limit as anywhere else and now you can slide down a whole set

[fiery shoal]

not everyone is? it is A problem too

[warm crater]

username is terrible

[simple reef]

^

[foggy halo]

Nobody asked

[simple reef]

I asked.

[foggy halo]

Same

[arctic grove]

This is the most typical redditor shit to say. They are always going on about "toxic this toxic that". I tell a guy to go fuck himself and that's somehow more toxic than that guy saying workers don't deserve to take a vacation.

[foggy halo]

No you didn’t

[simple reef]

I did.

[echo yew]

tbh i don't think so, it's a great idea but i think it wasn't properly executed

[arctic grove]

Beyond stupid

[simple reef]

128 players is awesome.

[arctic grove]

Maybe it was the maps that bottlenecked 128, although on CQ it’s fine mostly lol

[echo yew]

maps are the problem

[arctic grove]

Maps are great

[echo yew]

fuck hourglass and breakaway that shit should be 256

[arctic grove]

I guess the map design could streamline objectives more but 128 works just fine

Huh

[fiery shoal]

thats a part of the problem with 128 players is that it wasnt properly executed, its not like JUST the player number is a problem, is the indirect problems that also came with it too

[uncut bay]

the idea of 128 players isn't exactly an issue, but it's clearly causing issues

[arctic grove]

Breakaway is awesome

[simple reef]

500v500 Conquest.

[silk jasper]

Yea but you were the one who got banned

[echo yew]

yeah i realize

[silk jasper]

🤷🏼‍♂️

[foggy halo]

You are just one of the average cursed players that don’t know how to destroy vehicle mains @warm crater @simple reef

[arctic grove]

Which is what dice is already doing anyways, streamlining the objectives )most notably with renewal and Kaleidoscope, so let’s see how those map reworks play afterwards)

[wide shore]

128 works great on some maps. Significantly better than any of the base maps on 64

[echo yew]

but maybe they should have held on from doing 128 until they knew their engine could handle it in a proper way

[arctic grove]

That's okay, I was still the one in the right. Unless you are one of those people who think neck beard Reddit mods are always fair

[warm crater]

last time I checked condor needs 2 people to finish it

[echo yew]

and not just (it runs okayyyish)

[warm crater]

but with the server being so incompetent and useless there’s not much you can do

[foggy halo]

I played tank today. Even with all the missles and hacks the cursed players still didn’t get me lmao

[warm crater]

exactly

[echo yew]

this is what happens when team based gameplay and cooperation is given the middle finger

[warm crater]

that’s why we should nerf it

:)

[echo yew]

you know exactly why that is

[warm crater]

I mean I know how to destroy a tank

I main C5 and EMP

[echo yew]

no but i mean

[arctic grove]

When was it not given the middle finger

[wide shore]

If I’m not playing Lis I’m using a M5 recoilless

[echo yew]

idk man class system worked when i played BF4

[civic oak]

I think the vehicles are ok how they are except that new stealth chopper. That thing needs a mild nerf but other than that they seem ok

[arctic grove]

No it didn't.

[echo yew]

but specialists

[wide shore]

I’m a vehicle players worst nightmare.

[echo yew]

though

[arctic grove]

Oh this argument again

[echo yew]

teamplay is also a community issue

[arctic grove]

I mean I can say one thing

[warm crater]

Another one

[arctic grove]

Certain specialists shouldn’t be allowed to use ammo boxes as one example

[warm crater]

🤓

[echo yew]

if 2042 wants to commit to specialists

(and it will)

[warm crater]

why do people main vehicles

[arctic grove]

I’ve ran Angel for resupply challenges so often and seen everyone with their own ammo boxes

Nothing about classes encouraged teamplay more.than specialists. Restricting weapons never did that

[wide shore]

Remove the flares from the stealth heli and fix the 30mm overheat. And it’ll be fine.

[echo yew]

it should divide them by classes tbh

[arctic grove]

Because they’re fun

[warm crater]

I see hannibal users at S354

[arctic grove]

No

That’s why

[echo yew]

class specialists would kinda work imo

[arctic grove]

No

[echo yew]

yessir

[warm crater]

no it’s because you are lazy and most likely have bad aim

[echo yew]

funny killstreak

[warm crater]

but maybe it’s also fun

[foggy halo]

Yet people like you complain about vehicle mains 🤣 a contradiction

[arctic grove]

Nah, it’s because they’re fun, cope tho 💋

[warm crater]

your point?

[warm crater]

yes but you can’t aim shit

[wide shore]

[arctic grove]

Nah, they’re fun, cope tho 💋

[warm crater]

I like your attempt

try better next time

[arctic grove]

💋

[civic oak]

🤣🤣

[foggy halo]

You didn’t understand? Maybe I need to draw it for you?

[echo yew]

i guarantee you

[warm crater]

ur kissing a minor?

[foggy halo]

[warm crater]

ayo?

[echo yew]

the littlebird doesn't need rocket pods

[arctic grove]

kinky

[echo yew]

cease

[arctic grove]

Imagine complaining about vehicle mains in battlefield

[warm crater]

Imagine using them

[arctic grove]

vehicles are ass in 2042 lmao

[warm crater]

wait until ur little bird gets a nerf

see how funny it is

[arctic grove]

I don’t see what that has to do with anything

[warm crater]

💀

[arctic grove]

Little bird already got needed

[civic oak]

Imagine imagining

[arctic grove]

Nerfed

I don’t use it that much anyways

[warm crater]

well it’s gonna get nerfed again

[arctic grove]

As my name suggests, I main the Apache

So you’re wrong

[warped current]

I love when people hate pilots..

[warm crater]

I think jets should get a buff

[uncut bay]

same, tells me we're on the same page

[arctic grove]

It’s so weird how people hate pilots, in battlefield kek

@glad mulch you are glued to the idea of classes because that's what you had in the past but the reality is they didn't encourage more teamplay, and teamplay been an issue in BF. All classes did was restrict weapons. The vast majority of people chose a class so they can play their favorite weapon. The role of that class was secondary. With 2042, people can choose whatever weapon they want. The choice of combat role is entirely independent from their choice of gun, and this encourages people to voluntarily fulfill the role of that specialist. This is why you see so many Falck and Angel players. Just look at the stats channel. Most people are angle or Falck mains.

[warm crater]

by buff I mean divide it into its own section

[arctic grove]

Jets definitely need their own section

Agree

[warm crater]

I definitely do want to see air support and superiority being an importance

[uncut bay]

it's weird. I've said this before, but in 2042 we should theoretically be seeing the most amount of teamwork of the whole franchise, yet this is by far the worst one in that department out of all i've played

[warm crater]

but like 200-3 is enough

[arctic grove]

Don’t gun lock to classes, just gadgets. Besides, you can be recon and still pick up an LMG at any time if you wish

[arctic grove]

My experience is exactly opposite of yours

I'm seeing more teamplay.

Or I can’t remember, didn’t picking up another classes gun switch your entire set?

[arctic grove]

some people complain that vehicles are OP

[arctic grove]

Elaborate. What exactly do you mean by teamwork

[warm crater]

by team play it’s literally just dropping ammo and med boxes for quests

[wide shore]

I love one shotting pilots with M5

Especially those on killstreaks

[arctic grove]

Yeah I'm seeing way more of that.

When vehicles are OP, call M5

[warped current]

No honor is greater then having a whole team try to catch you with AA, hacks and wildcats..

[wide shore]

I’ve probably taken down hundreds tbh. Never not satisfying

[silk surge]

[warped current]

*bad pilots

[arctic grove]

There are Angel crates everywhere. Random med and ammo packs everywhere. I'm getting revived all the time.

[echo yew]

810 hours

jesus fuck

[arctic grove]

So like what lack of teamwork are you talking about

[wide shore]

Good pilots. Bad pilots. Doesn’t matter. I just have good aim with my rocket.

[warm crater]

the one of where people stick together

[silk surge]

Well, technically its 760 hours. He was looking through my PSN profile.

[arctic grove]

TFW class system returns and it’s back to spamming “NEED AMMO” in a supports face as they stare at you and then run away

[warm crater]

I wanna see more attrition gameplay in conquest not exactly like breakthrough

[uncut bay]

essentially just reviving and dropping ammo, though ammo doesn't count for much since it's beneficial to the player that dropped it. I get revived and resupplied far less than i did in past games

[arctic grove]

YEP

[uncut bay]

falck's healing is nice, i get that a lot, but can't say the same for revives

[arctic grove]

Yeah I straight up do not have your experience dude. As I said before I'm getting revived just as much, and getting heals and ammo way more.

[warped current]

What's your thoughts on the g84? Those are easy to dodge if you know what to do and listen.

[wide shore]

I get revived just about the same as previous games. Medics ignoring you while they’re right there has been a problem for ages. But I see ammo much more often

[arctic grove]

I’ve never noticed a drop off in how much I get healed and resupplied, if anything it’s every game every time I hop on 2042, maybe it’s as subjective as in past battlefields where supports would entirely ignore players begging for ammo, sometimes you got it and sometimes you didn’t

Generally and most of the times, you do

Assholes wont revive me or drop meds smh when i play rush

[wide shore]

I’m at around 210 vehicle destroys with Lis I think. I like it, but I wish it did a smidge more damage to air vehicles. Considering how easy they are to dodge and shoot down.

[arctic grove]

It’s rush

I can’t blame em

Yeah. Honestly I feel like people saying there is a lack of teamplay are just saying that to support the idea of returning to classes. In practice, specialists have not reduced teamwork. Every single.tool you've had in previous BF games is still there.

[bronze steeple]

[silk surge]

People have generally not been very good at revives, 2042 is no different. I used to be top reviver in every BF4 lobby even though reviving ppl has never been my priority.

[wide shore]

The fact that lis’ rocket can’t 1 hit any heli besides the little bird, but the M5 can is silly to me.

[warped current]

I've been hit a few times in the right spot on the hind and went down fast.

[arctic grove]

True but some can still play solo with all available gadgets. I know some who do.

[bronze steeple]

👆

[wide shore]

I mean I’ve destroyed a few hinds. But not as many as I have with the M5.

[arctic grove]

When people say they don't see as much teamwork, i simply reply: "cap"

[arctic grove]

🧢

[silk surge]

I notice a ton of ammo crates all over the place... not a lot of medbags though. Might be because people who play medic always picks Falck and she already has that syrette pistol.

[arctic grove]

All I can say concerning teamwork is Gadget lock which is most likely what’s going to happen with the specialist rework anyways

[arctic grove]

Absolutely

[warm crater]

I wish people would carry more AA

[arctic grove]

Maybe. Depends on DICE's mood.

[warped current]

https://youtu.be/-BNQcLHBTJg would attach but says I can't.. crushed someone on the ladder 😂

[warm crater]

it’s not that much to ask for

and I wish whenever I hack someone there would be a hacked icon on the heli

[arctic grove]

And to be honest I don't think I gadget lock would do anything in practice.

[silk surge]

DICE should make it a bit more entertaining to carry AA. Hunting vehicles with a stinger is insufferably boring.

[arctic grove]

What if Falck can no longer use the recoilless.

[warm crater]

I’ve been begging for stationary AA

[arctic grove]

Good. She is a medic anyways.

Okay... So people who liked running Falck with recoilless just play a different specialist that has it

[warm crater]

especially at C1 in exposure

[arctic grove]

And then you get less revives

It’ll be interesting to see how they execute whatever they’re planning, unless the idea of a rework was potentially scrapped, but who knows

[silk surge]

We'll probably going to see a complete rework of the specialist system soon. They're already setting the stage by restricting certain gadgets for Lis.

[arctic grove]

See one of the draws of the specialist system is that you have a primary role from The specialist themselves, and then you can choose a secondary role with the gadget.

True, which proves restricting gadgets is definitely possible

I just don't see the issue with that.

I am not thrilled about specialist reworks

I guess at times it complicates roles like tanking where you feel like M5s are flying at you from every direction possible

What's gonna end up happening is you will see a reduction in teamwork if you restrict gadgets

[warped current]

Yep and the new rocket destroys the bolt.

[arctic grove]

You wanna know why you see so many med kits everywhere? Or ammo? Because any specialist can equip them

Oh yea add in the Lis rockets and its even more difficult to properly tank

[arctic grove]

True

[neon iris]

Anyone else's trackers for badges going up and down?

[warm crater]

bring back flak or stationary rocket pods

[arctic grove]

And the reason people play Falck and angel souch is because they can choose whatever secondary gadget they want. They can both heal/resupply, while also being lethal as fuck.

[neon iris]

I was at 3500 for insertion beacon the other day, now I'm at 3419

[arctic grove]

Kinda a WW2 concept but I guess they could do it with CIWS

CIWS not being in bases was so disappointing to me, I loved seeing them shred pilots in 4

Gadget restrictions will cause more problems than they solve, but the community seems so fixated on being restricted again that this doesn't matter

[warm crater]

9mm miniguns?

[arctic grove]

But dude if we end up with restricted weapons I will be pissed. That would be peak stupidity

[neon iris]

Worst bit of previous bfs

[arctic grove]

Restricted weapons at the current gun count is kinda

Not good

Unless there’s a ‘shared’ weapons tab like you see in portal

Even with an assload of weapons that would fucking suck

So many times I saw people play recon in 4 to spot for themselves as they ran an M4 lol

In BF4 I had to play medic to use an assault rifle.

That's dumb as fuck

[fiery shoal]

i dont see why people think theres logic behind game design approaches other than for balance

and bring back locked loadouts

[arctic grove]

If we get gadget restrictions, I won't be happy about it. I can take that, but I still think it's a very very dumb decision.

[fiery shoal]

why do you think its dumb to have locked loadouts?

its been in every other BF title before 2042

[arctic grove]

Yeah and it doesn't work

[fiery shoal]

it clearly did work though...

[thick shadow]

I honestly think that gadget restrictions to certain classes is way better than what we have now though

[arctic grove]

See my above explantations. I already explained this

[fiery shoal]

you not liking something doesnt mean it doesnt work

i dont say "tomatoes dont work in a burger" because i dont like tomatoes...

[arctic grove]

You saying "it clearly did work" is not an adequate rebuttal to the tons of shit I just said

[fiery shoal]

it does when we have had some 20 years of it working...

[arctic grove]

Wow what an insane oversimplification of my argument. What a ridiculous strawman.

[fiery shoal]

i dont have a hypothetical "it works", it literally did work already

[thick shadow]

Bro I understand that gun restrictions are dumb, gadget restrictions in comparison is something else

[arctic grove]

Just because we did something for 20 years doesn't mean it's the way forward. Doing the same shit over and over is how you end up with XOD

[arctic grove]

I said this

I literally said, I think gadget restrictions are dumb and ide be unhappy about it, but I can live with it

[thick shadow]

You said its a dumb decision if we get gadget restrictions

[arctic grove]

Gun restrictions are ridiculous though

It is

[thick shadow]

How

[arctic grove]

Omg you guys didn't read

[thick shadow]

Literally nobody knows what they're running around with

[fiery shoal]

open vs locked loadouts is down to preference, both work for bf, thats the end of that

[thick shadow]

All you said is that you won't be happy with it

[arctic grove]

No, that's not all I said if you scroll up

[arctic grove]

"doesn't matter"

[arctic grove]

.

You can also continue scrolling up to see my explanation as to why I think gadget restrictions are dumb

It comes down to teamwork

Support

[thick shadow]

Have you ever thought about the specialists that have certain roles like falck and dozer being a healer and pusher

Literally dozer could. Just carry around a smoke grenade

[arctic grove]

.

[arctic grove]

.

[arctic grove]

.

Read

[arctic grove]

I am aware of their respective roles

[thick shadow]

Yeah then think about every other specialist and their roles

Categorise them

[arctic grove]

What about unrestricted gadgets compromises the primary role of the specialist

[thick shadow]

You mean the 4th slot?

[arctic grove]

If you want to talk about roles so much

[fiery shoal]

id argue that 2042 has the least amount of teamwork ive seen in any bf title, and its open loadout

i think people are more inclined to pick shit they want that benefits themselves more than anything else

[thick shadow]

Wasn't that what we were talking about, the 4th slot in your inventory

[arctic grove]

I completely disagree. I'm seeing more angel crates, more ammo packs ,and more.healing packs. I'm getting revived just as much, and I'm getting healed more as a result of falck's gun.

[fiery shoal]

at least in locked loadouts you are "forced" to pick stuff thats sole purpose is teamwork

[arctic grove]

This has literally always been the case. Back in previous games people were inclined to choose a class based on their favorite weapon.

[arctic grove]

You were forced to pick a class based on your favorite gun, but you weren't forced to use your gadget.

[fiery shoal]

i mean, you can disagree but its all anecdotal evidence and no data behind any of it

[arctic grove]

Yes, the exact same applies to your anecdotes

[hexed mango]

they can still chose not to pick that tho. like they can equally chose to pick a class that isn’t teamwork based or also just not help teammates

[fiery shoal]

yes and dice has messed with ways to mix those classes/weapons up to get the most teamwork out of them

[hearty flame]

its all anecdotal and only dice would have the data. and even dice wouldnt have all the data because of the remaining playerbase

[arctic grove]

Yet I'm BF4 I still had medics tbagging me, supports not giving me ammo and ignoring me, etc.

[fiery shoal]

yes but i did clarify them as anecdotes with "i think", you just straight up said "im getting more revives and seeing more teammate gadgets"

[hexed mango]

tbh they need to buff some stuff in this game for medic, falck should revive with the pistol from a limited range, angel should get an overall buff, and anyone using the medic crate should be able to revive

[hearty flame]

her syringe could give a weaker, ranged revive vs paddling

[fiery shoal]

sure can, but an example of forcing more "support" roles was bf3/4 giving assault the AR weapons and healing. so there was just "forced" more people healing/reviving

[arctic grove]

I don't need to clarify that something is an anecdote when it is literally an anecdote by its very nature. Should I say "in my opinion" every time I state an opinion in an argument? No, that's unnecessary fluff. Stop splitting hairs for the sake of trying to satisfy your need to "win" an internet argument

[hexed mango]

yeah like only give minimal health on the revive

[fiery shoal]

yes people are dumbasses that wont play as a team, still doesnt change design choices...

[thick shadow]

I'm just glad that weapon restrictions isn't a thing anymore, idk about gadget restrictions like you can give your point of view/opinion on it all you want. I just don't think it's a bad idea

[arctic grove]

It shows that those design choices weren't particularly effective

[fiery shoal]

you should clarify, it just helps everyone understand the conversation...

[fiery shoal]

for all we know it could have been MORE effective than open loadouts, we cant say

[arctic grove]

I don't need to do that, and I'm not doing that. It's unnecessary crap, and anyone with a basic grasp of conversation will automatically understand that.

[thick shadow]

Well unfortunately for you not everyone is how you just stated

Doesn't mean your opinion is invalid

[arctic grove]

An anecdote is an anecdote. I don't need to clarify that something is an anecdote when it is, by its very nature, an anecdote.

[fiery shoal]

if you want people to understand you without clarification you do need to do that. its not unnecessary, people dont know the intention of your words, thats what being coherent means

"i get revive more" literally translates to a fact/statement

[arctic grove]

Again I don't need to clarify that something is an anecdote that when it is an anecdote by it's very nature. My argument would have been fallacious if I was asserting an anecdote to be fact, but I wasn't.

[fiery shoal]

to assume it was anecdotal is literally not taking the words for their definition

[civic oak]

I like turtles

[fiery dawn]

[hearty flame]

im betting dice goes back to locked loadouts next bf

[arctic grove]

It is a fact. I do get revived more. This is by it's very nature, an anecdote ,and it is not a fact when applied to the entirety of the community. I did not try to state that everyone gets revived more simply because I do. Again this is something that is blatantly clear and obvious.

[arctic grove]

You don't have to assume anything. It is an anecdote.

[fiery shoal]

you literally can not prove this, its not a fact even though you just said its anecdotal too

youre literally contradicting yourself

[fiery dawn]

This is a pretty pointless argument from where I’m sitting lol

[thick shadow]

@fiery shoal This is completely off topic and random but do you like lemon icecream

[arctic grove]

It is pointless. He's just trying to get a win for the sake of his ego

[hearty flame]

eh looking back at his original statement, what f35 is saying is clear that its anecdotal

[fiery shoal]

id be willing to bet 2042 wass supposed to be locked loadouts but they didnt have enough weapons to make that work

[fiery dawn]

You’re arguing your side just as much as Nyphon is though

[fiery shoal]

saying you should be coherent doesnt make anyone win though...

[hearty flame]

22 weapons is oof for 3 years and multiple studios

[thick shadow]

How many weapons does bf4 have

[uncut bay]

that is a hilarious and sad idea that may very well be true

[hallow sierra]

idk what both sides are trying to say

[fiery dawn]

who cares

[arctic grove]

What do I need to prove? That I personally get revived more? I get revived more. Plain and simple. Are you trying to invalidate my personal experience? And again I'm not trying to expand my experience to that of the community as a whole. I am not saying that everyone gets revived more.

[hallow sierra]

in what

[fiery shoal]

because you said its a fact, you cant have a fact if you cant prove anything.. thats literally how that works..

[hearty flame]

69(?) (nice) at launch from a quick count

[arctic grove]

I am being entirely coherent and again I don't need to clarify when something is an anecdote when it is obviously an anecdote. Hell I even said "my experience is the exact opposite" in the beginning of this entire conversation. That should immediately tip you off that it's an anecdote, as I'm specifically talking about MY experience.

[fiery shoal]

even if you do get revived more it could be attributed to other aspects outside of open vs locked loadouts, like you know DOUBLE the player count

[pine roost]

the forced weapons was a really clever way to get players to stick together, i think it's a system that worked fine and actually helped to promote the teamplay that is so sought after

[thick shadow]

It's been 3 years since ei have bf4 and I still haven't unlocked everything lmao

[copper fulcrum]

I think I experience more teamwork because you kinda have to go out of your way to select the teamwork element yourself. Like the reason to pick Falck is the healing pistol so people use it more when they select the 'Medic' class. Whereas some people as in let's say BFV or BF1 would only pick those classes for the weapons or just self-heals.

[uncut bay]

i've got like two assignment weapons left, made it a goal to unlock all of them but some assignments were super pesky

[hearty flame]

same

[thick shadow]

Getting a kill on CASPIAN TOWER IS A PAIN

[uncut bay]

yess i think that's exactly the one

[thick shadow]

Literally every BITCH is after you

[fiery shoal]

itd be nice to have a single game swap between open and locked loadouts and share data on team oriented gadget pick rates and usage

[small ember]

Bro I’m at rank 58 almost 59 so close to NTW I can almost taste it

[arctic grove]

The player count doesn't matter because the maps are so much bigger. It's not about player account but player concentration in specific areas. I play AOW, and there are very few meat grinder areas compared to BF4 for example

[hearty flame]

Im just lucky to already have the guns i like in 4 unlocked

so assignments are an afterthought

[arctic grove]

The unrestricted loadouts is likely to be a bigger factor

[fiery shoal]

your very first statement assumes that the large maps mean people spread out evenly? idk ive seen a shit load of matches where you swear theres 40 people at one center point...

[fiery dawn]

NTW is my baby. I unlocked it and immediately T1’d it in a couple days 😂

[copper fulcrum]

Honestly, I receive more heals in 2042 than most Battlefields, most. BF4 assaults throw down health crates fucking everywhere lol

[fiery shoal]

likely because the "go to weapon" class came with heals

[copper fulcrum]

The 1942 Medics don't really heal that much, especially since you can only heal players if you're giving them a lengthy handshake and a kiss on the cheek goodbye

[small ember]

I stopped playing for awhile been ranking up on and off but got like 12 ranks today lol I’ve been grinding that spot and heal assist xp like crazy

[fiery shoal]

since people seem to pick a class mostly based on the weapon, if you put the weapon that most people pick with heals youll naturally get more heals

[arctic grove]

It does not assume people are spread out evently, however with a signficantly larger map, it is less likely you will see a higher concentration of people in 1 specific area. The only real meat grinder area in 2042 is that new indoors place on exposure, and the rate I get revived in there is almost annoying. I can't even die.

[fiery dawn]

They did nerf Spot Assist XP this patch though just FYI

[copper fulcrum]

Yes however they changed the values of smoke assists and other assists iirc

[small ember]

Medic here can snip people from like 60ms away with the healing gun it’s op and can heal themselves faster then bfv medic plus you can move while Rez bfv you had to hold still and be on them

[small ember]

Yeah why I became a medic lol

[warped current]

How do I get rights to attach videos?

[copper fulcrum]

The healing pistol is just the BFV medic pouch but a gun

[hearty flame]

do yall think dice should bring back everyone carrying a bandage mechanic from V?

[fiery dawn]

👌

[small ember]

Feels so good when a push only works because you as the medic saved everyone and kept them fighting

[fiery shoal]

ehh, id argue that most maps have at least 1 point (usually centralized) that gets a vast majority of the team there.

[arctic grove]

By that logic, with unrestricted weapons, people can choose medic, and choose whatever gun they want. If a person doesn't necessarily want to play the best weapon, they can still choose medic. I think it is also naive to assume people will play the role of their class simply because they are forced to use a class.

[fiery dawn]

Yes it does. I love playing medic

[thick shadow]

Not sure but god I wanted that soldier dragging in 5

[arctic grove]

yOu ShPuLD ClariFy ThAT aS an AneCdoTe

[hearty flame]

eh dont think itd work in a bf game. dice has been moving to make gameplay faster and slowing things down to carry a body is against that

[fiery shoal]

i think its more naive to think people want to support over being selfish

[small ember]

Medic class is op since you can use any weapon heal yourself infinitely and carry ammo or a respawn point

[arctic grove]

Just kidding, but no, that is certainly not my experience. When people do concentrate around specific areas, concentrate of players is relative. I still had far higher concentration of players on previous games. People are more spread out in 2042.

[fiery shoal]

100% did, no need to resort to being petty either

[thick shadow]

That's where the teamwork comes in, it was a good time to show something new for once

Team play has died ages ago 🗿

[hearty flame]

but with how fast people moved in V and the strength of smoke grenades, body dragging was obsolete

[arctic grove]

Pettiness is sort of your trademark at this point so

[copper fulcrum]

Teamplay died after BF2, change my mind

[fiery dawn]

Not my experience at all. Every time I play conquest usually more than half the lobby is fighting over one point for most of the game.

[fiery shoal]

and you continue it after pulling out a "gotcha" with a spongebob meme response..

[small ember]

BFv had amazing team play with most teams I get

[thick shadow]

It would be for sure but still you gotta admit that it would've been nice if it actually worked out

[arctic grove]

Oh come on, you can't call foul on me for doing what you do.

[hearty flame]

i think it wouldve been cool too but then everyone would realise that smoking was a lot stronger and less risky

[warped current]

17 seconds and 7 rockets and a hack at me... plenty of people carry AA https://youtu.be/mzJexW8WdaA

[hardy crow]

Anybody else not able to connect online?

[fiery shoal]

thats such an over simplifcation that i hope your are purposefully being ignorant for more petty points than actually thinking thats what happened...

[thick shadow]

Isn't that what smoke is supposed to be like?

[arctic grove]

Definitely not one point from my experience. It's certainly not an equal spread between objectives, but it's not like everyone is concentrated around one objective.

[copper fulcrum]

Don't smoke, kids

[hearty flame]

sure but then it makes body carrying a pretty worse option

[hexed mango]

dont kid, smokes

[copper fulcrum]

Don't smoke kids

[hexed mango]

smoke, don't kid.

[hearty flame]

kids dont smoke

[thick shadow]

Could you elaborate like I don't really understand what you mean

[hexed mango]

kid smoke dont

[copper fulcrum]

DON'T

[hexed mango]

SMOKE

[arctic grove]

It's not an oversimplification at all. You had an entire side argument with me because I didn't specifically clarify anecdotal evidence as anecdotal evidence, when I clearly understood my example as an anecdote. You did too. Nobody needs to clarify anything, yet you had an entire argument over it. So how come it's so inappropriate for me to use the SpongeBob meme?

[bronze steeple]

Smoke crack kids

[arctic grove]

"ignorant". What a joke

[thick shadow]

I will literally obliterate both of you bitches

[hexed mango]

how many days till it hits 50%+

[hearty flame]

Sorry bout that. Body carrying would be worse because 1. smoking and then reviving is easier and less risky. 2. dying as a medic isnt so risky or punishing to really have anyone carry a body for them 3. it would slow down gameplay in a design where dice wants things to be fast and chaotic

[hexed mango]

anyways ima try to abuse the stealth heli before it gets nerfed

[fiery shoal]

because i genuinely asked you to clarify anecdotes, you genuinely didnt ask me to do that, you did it to spite me in a "no u GOTCHA" response with trolling spongebob shit applied.. they are not the same, stop kidding yourself

[fiery dawn]

cringe

[hexed mango]

gotta grind that meta for vbucks

[fiery dawn]

[bronze steeple]

Smoke grenades are anoying imo

[fiery dawn]

What about F-35

[hexed mango]

i will, yes

[thick shadow]

I can see what you are trying to get at except from the fast and chaotic part when they stated that bfv was more based towards teamplay

[hearty flame]

thats kinda the whole point of them though i think they should be destroyable/disturbable

[grave prism]

ngl i kinda prefer 40v40 with 20 bots for both teams, not as much of a shit show as 124

[bronze steeple]

Cant see shit

[fiery dawn]

Carry giant hovercraft fan on your back and run through them to dissipate the smoke cloud for your team 👍

[thick shadow]

I want to drown a shark

[hearty flame]

it was sure and im not saying that body carrying wouldnt work there but its a little against their design philosophy (imo at the time)

[hearty flame]

give us the option to throw back smoke grenades lol

[thick shadow]

Yeah I get that, although it really depends on the players themselves, you'll rarely see your entire team work together to win

[hearty flame]

ya it works in something like squad where dying as a medic is really punishing for the team so you get others to cart the dead to a safe spot

[arctic grove]

You must be so upset by this. From now on, whenever I have an argument or discussion with you, and you don't specifically put "in my opinion" before stating something that is by nature an opinion, or don't clarify anecdotes as anecdotes, I will press you to clarify things. This will teach you how tedious this is.

You are also do not seem familiar with the writing and debating.

[fiery dawn]

You’d have to either add a longer delay before the smoke pops, or make it build the smoke cloud slower. So there’s time to actually throw it back before it’s already created a cloud. I don’t think that’s really viable. Smokes are in a fine place imo. They are a necessary part of the game

[craggy onyx]

lets keep it going

[hearty flame]

you can throw popped smoke grenades. i think a lot of hong kong rioters have shown that. but this is more of an idea for fun than anything

[fiery shoal]

i consistently try to preface anecdotes as such, i say things like "i think" or "id argue' which show im not taking them as fact. so good luck actually catching me not clarifying anecdotes, and if you ever do catch me doing it point it out, i like being coherent with what im saying. its just when youre being a little prick about it, just to try to get back at me, thats just petty and ill call it out.

[fiery dawn]

That’s because smoke grenades IRL don’t pop and then instantly create a thick, perfectly-shaped cloud of smoke

[thick shadow]

Bro have you ever not seen people ride tanks by just standing on them

[hearty flame]

mmm true. i guess dice could make smoke nades a persistent object that can be interacted with then but then theyd need smoke physics for when its thrown or dispersed and that might be too much

[fiery dawn]

That’s why I said they’d have to make it so the grenade pops and then slowly builds a cloud instead of instantly so that there would be time to throw it back before it’s done it’s job. But that would basically make smoke nades completely useless in a fast-paced FPS like Battlefield

[fiery dawn]

Yeah probably. It’s a nice idea though. The tossing them back thing

[hearty flame]

sure but am i missing something? about tanks?

[arctic grove]

Yeah that's just bad English. If something is by nature an anecdote, anyone with a firm comprehension of the English language and the nature of discussions, shouldn't have to do this. This is like debating/arguing 101. If you say "in my opinion", "I believe", or "I think" before stating your opinions or anecdotes, it delays the message of your argument, shows a sense of insecurity, and furthermore it's just unnecessary. You seem to think this is the polite thing to do but it's just not necessary.

Calling me a prick is also uncalled for, and shows that you can't keep a cool head.

And I'm not doing this out of spite. I can show you a bunch of articles or writing blogs that agree with me.

[thick shadow]

No no no, I'm just saying this as a question

[arctic grove]

I will never forget my teacher in third grade telling me to never write "I think". It's that basic.

[fiery shoal]

whole first sentence talking out your ass...

calling it as it is isnt uncalled for.

100% did it out of spite, you literally said "just kidding" after doing it too.

[hearty flame]

oh ok. uh still a little lost lol

[thick shadow]

You'll get used to that eventually

[fiery shoal]

imagine using a mocking meme format and then saying you didnt mean it

what a joke

[arctic grove]

Oh I wasn't saying it out of spite I was just having some fun with you. If you wanna get bent out of shape about it, fine. Be my guest. What I said was not pulled out of my ass. Just look it up.

[fiery shoal]

provide source

[thick shadow]

Damn these 2 are still at it

[hearty flame]

ikr

[thick shadow]

Come share a bucket of chicken with me or something

[arctic grove]

Bet

https://preciseedit.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/in-my-opinion-i-think-that-i-believe-this-is-bad-writing/

This person explains it well

[fiery shoal]

a blog...

[arctic grove]

Yes

Still a very valid point

[thick shadow]

Imagine getting criticised on the way you speak

Damn

🗿

[arctic grove]

Well he did that to me so haha

Just giving friendly advice

[copper fulcrum]

Imagine getting criticized

[thick shadow]

Ain't nothing friendly about both of you in this argument

[civic oak]

I've been gone for an hour and yall are still at it? Lol

[thick shadow]

Y'all just bringing up arguments to continue this pointless conversation

[arctic grove]

Anyways keep doing this if you want to make your arguments look weak. Cut the unnecessary bloat from stuff you write

[fiery shoal]

its been the same point from the beginning

he just thinks blog posts make him correct

[thick shadow]

It started with a game and then continued on to advanced vocabulary

[arctic grove]

[thick shadow]

A blog post is literally someone's experience on something, doesn't mean it will apply as a fact to someone else

[arctic grove]

This also gets to the meat of what I'm saying @fiery shoal https://www.inc.com/wanda-thibodeaux/why-intelligent-people-dont-say-i-feel-like-in-con.html

Want me to DM you more stuff? This is no longer relevant to 2042

[fiery shoal]

exactly, but lockheed posted a blog post as some form of proof

[silver lantern]

What's going on here

[copper fulcrum]

Alright I'm goin' to Mickie D's, y'all want something?

[silver lantern]

Why are arguing

[thick shadow]

Pointless argument involving blog posts to prove someone right

[silver lantern]

Happy meal with a BOY TOY

[civic oak]

I'll have a mcdouble with Mac sauce and lettuce please

[hearty flame]

get me some mcchikens

[thick shadow]

@copper fulcrum DAFUQ is Mickie d

[arctic grove]

I didn't post it as proof. I simply thought what this blogger wrote would be useful to you

[copper fulcrum]

ba da bah bah bahhhh

[silver lantern]

And to emphasize
BOY TOY
Not girl toy

[civic oak]

I'm lovin it

[copper fulcrum]

The golden arches, bro

[thick shadow]

Aren't you trying to make nyphon insecure by the way they speak by posting blog articles on how you can improve your vocabulary?

[full burrow]

btw this is what my portal page looks like

oh

no links

I cant post picutres either

[copper fulcrum]

You can post a link

[silver lantern]

Portal bf1 when

Ngl 1942 is the worse out of portal

[full burrow]

gets autodeleted

[silver lantern]

Also why does no one choose bad company

Like wtf

[copper fulcrum]

use imgur or some shit

[full burrow]

i used ibb

[lime mango]

Me: okay its time to stop now
Bf2042: ill throw you into a new match before you can

And once a match started i gotta finish it

Xd

[silver lantern]

Sfar is a dumbass name ngl

[thick shadow]

Can we post yt videos here?

[silver lantern]

Scar way cooler

[full burrow]

https://imgur.com/bYn3Owi

[lime mango]

Theres got to be a channel named #streams-and-videos for a reason

[full burrow]

has been like this for ages

[mossy badge]

sometimes I think why they gave us game mode creator with soooo many limitations instead of a map editor people would have already made your battlefield 1 maps in first week

[thick shadow]

I didn't see that channel lmao

Dawg I can't read

[mossy badge]

I can't speak

[thick shadow]

Wait

I'm not trying to promote myself

[mossy badge]

english

[thick shadow]

I'm asking where i can post random yt videos

[copper fulcrum]

Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle

[warped current]

Thank you!

[arctic grove]

So yall miss 128 BT?

[fiery shoal]

that pfp..

[hexed mango]

always

the end is just within reach

[arctic grove]

What if we spam bring back 138 BT. The moderator or some shit will actually consider it. Making the higher ups consider it. Then others consider it. And so on

[copper fulcrum]

I ran into a squad of people with that skin earlier.

[lime mango]

Why are first person tanks so loud

[hexed mango]

lel

[copper fulcrum]

Probably because you're in a loud tank

[fiery shoal]

i barely got the BSV.... did you pay for the BP?

[hexed mango]

moderators are not devs

[hexed mango]

nope, i havent bought a single tier

[fiery shoal]

i dont mean tiers, i mean the BP

[hexed mango]

i have ultimate edition

[arctic grove]

Not what i mean

[fiery shoal]

ah gotcha

[hexed mango]

moderators dont work for dice.

[hearty flame]

if you come at the right time you can catch a dev here

[hexed mango]

so mods cannot impact what "higher-ups" do

[arctic grove]

Theres EA community team

[arctic grove]

Its morbin time btw

[hexed mango]

then ask straat on twitter or reddit

:P

[still vault]

Just as much as everyone else in the community. Constructive and well reasoned feedback always gets listened to more.

[lime mango]

First person in a tank aint safe

Someone put c4

[arctic grove]

Joking around aside. Do you think 128 bt will come back

[hexed mango]

or me dm'ing sam :)

[hexed mango]

unfortunately, probably not

[lime mango]

I want not conquest but the other one on exposure 24/7 back

[hexed mango]

BT Exposure 24/7 should replace CQ Exposure 24/7, cause nobody plays the latter

[lime mango]

Yeah

[viscid bone]

Maybe.

[still vault]

I don't see why they could not make it one of the 4 game modes on the frontpage at one point in the future.

[lime mango]

BT plays nice on exposure

[hearty flame]

youd probably get 128bt back once 2042 has a large enough playerbase to support multiple 128 modes

[fiery shoal]

its ea/dice, quick spam him

[hexed mango]

[hexed mango]

him

[viscid bone]

https://tenor.com/view/time-will-tell-this-feels-like-one-of-those-time-will-tell-deals-gif-13223772

[lime mango]

I forgot about the storms since this is the first i see after like 20 games today

[arctic grove]

[hexed mango]

so, basically yes but not yes

[viscid bone]

Maybe but also maybe

[hexed mango]

understandable

[arctic grove]

@fiery shoal blocking people before they give a proper rebuttal is not very polite

[viscid bone]

Understandable but barely understandable, with a slight dose of understanding

[arctic grove]

It also shows you are incapable of handling discussion

[hexed mango]

makes sense

[arctic grove]

I understand people had lag issues but i remember the reason most people didnt like 128 BT. Im not saying this is true its just what i saw. They didnt like it cause it was chaotic. Thats legit what battlefield is about

[still vault]

I feel like you will begin to make sense soon™

[lime mango]

Just let us throw a pizza w pineapple at the enemy and im satisfied xd

[hearty flame]

throw it? id rather eat it

[lime mango]

A frozen*

[hexed mango]

"unorganized chaos"
like bozo that's what i want. i want that mode back. it was so much fun

[lime mango]

With pineapple its not eatable

[arctic grove]

I play battlefeild so i can feel like im in a battlefeild

[hearty flame]

funny cuz thats what im literally gonna hve for dinner

[arctic grove]

Battlefield"

[lime mango]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

Bruh

Gif work

[hearty flame]

yall out here thinking pineapple pizza is blasphemy when ive seen some truly heretical pizzas out there

[still vault]

So, they should take one of these toy disk shooters, militarize it, then fill it with pineapple pizzas and put it in the game?

[lime mango]

Pineapple in a barbecue tho

Thats nice

But on a pizza

[hearty flame]

agreed

[lime mango]

Maybe for april's fools it would actually be hilarious

[arctic grove]

Im american so i like barbacue sauce pizza

[lime mango]

Im not american but also like that

[still vault]

It would 😄

[arctic grove]

Well im also brazilian but i was born in america

[lime mango]

Im european and i was born on a mars bar

[arctic grove]

Chads are from brazil. Such as ricardo milos

Bruh i remember being a kid and seeing a newspaper saying they will send rockets to mars by 2020. Bruh im still waiting

[lime mango]

This is standard battlefield communication, if your squadmate drives a tank away just shoot at them and theyll wait

[arctic grove]

People"

[lime mango]

Im not that old

[arctic grove]

Im not old either i saw the newspaper at school at like elementry

[arctic grove]

Oh ye i havent seen storms since like launch

Why dont i ever see em anymore

Every battlefeild has something new. Bf1 = behemoths. Bf4= levolution and bfv= the squad call ins. For 2042. It was the tornadoes

[lime mango]

Yeah

But tornadoes could have been more map destroying tbh

[arctic grove]

Yo fean and morbius

There is 128 rush

[lime mango]

I play on ps4

[arctic grove]

Oh damn bro im sorry

I have a ps4 but i heard it was shit

On ps4

[lime mango]

Its obviously not as good as next gen but it aint bad

Its actually quit fun

[arctic grove]

Ah alr

[lime mango]

I am looking for a ps5 tho but their so damn overpriced and the normal priced sell out way too fast xd

[arctic grove]

Thats not what i mean i played on ps4 too but what i mean is the graphics. Everything is legit low poly. People look like a sleep paralysis demon

[lime mango]

Idk? It isnt for me

But i havent been playing since launch so maybe they fixed it

[arctic grove]

Well i played on launch. Maybe they improved it

Ah ye like u just said

[lime mango]

Oh yeah

Characters when loading sometimes

But never longer then 15 seconds

[arctic grove]

Why cant i use the bsv in rush

[open tangle]

Skill issue

[arctic grove]

Wdym

I legit cant use the bsv

Like its locked

And i had it

For a long time

[hexed mango]

is it a custom mode? or an official experience on the featured page

if its a custom mode, in the browser, they most likely disabled it

[arctic grove]

128 rush on portal which is legit all i play and bsv is my fav gun

[tacit sphinx]

i like salvager torso + skull headgear

[tacit sphinx]

take an incredibly crispy image of it

[arctic grove]

Lol i never used virtual currency in my life

[edgy oriole]

holy brightness batman

[silk jasper]

bruh why do they keep doing cosmetics for rao

[edgy oriole]

rao is the face of 2042

[tacit sphinx]

yeah ik its a scuffed pic lol

[arctic grove]

imagine buying stuff in triple A game that costs at least 60€

Well well well. That was fun. Says mckay after legit fighting in a deadly battle in ww3 were the world is turned to trash from climate change

Glad they removed that

[modest ivy]

well well well

[hexed mango]

ww3 was in 2020

[arctic grove]

Oh ye bf4.

[arctic grove]

Ww4 then

[hexed mango]

noob numbers

[arctic grove]

@hexed mango sry mate youre from NA
ur opinion doesnt matter

[hexed mango]

BrITiSH

[arctic grove]

im not bri ish lmao

[hexed mango]

Ok MaTe

[arctic grove]

god thank you i have nothing common with anglo speaking people

[arctic grove]

Hows the fish and chips over there

whats this?

[tacit sphinx]

finally t1 boris

[arctic grove]

Good job

[vernal cargo]

i have this issue where i have enough kills for everything to be unlocked but none of it has unlocked for the stealth heli

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/566979579575533568/997286960869691422/unknown.png

[arctic grove]

Crisp noice

[hexed mango]

!!support 👇

[tender pendant]

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[lone wren]

It do be battlefield

[nova surge]

this freaking sight clips through my head whenever i shoot

[hexed mango]

i hate it

[nova surge]

it pissed me off so much the whole time i used it

[tacit sphinx]

especially with the way it’s framed bc of the cropping it looks like the reload prompt is displayed as part of the optic lol

but yeah i’m not a fan of that optic, if i buy the sfar skin i’m not using the fusion on it

i don’t think i do anyway but still

[lone wren]

I am out of date in bf2042 can you explain to me what is that is held

[hexed mango]

thats the new skin for the fusion holo sight on the legendary SFAR skin in the shop

[lone wren]

Ah

[plain marlin]

Pay to win? 🤔

[lone wren]

I don't bother playing 2042 at the moment

Not because I hate it

[hexed mango]

uh

no

[lone wren]

Just because I have been focused on other games

And as of next week I am going to be more busy

[spark rapids]

Hello

[lone wren]

Hi

[spark rapids]

Something very weird happened yesterday, i got the mckay ultimate and gold rewards but not the others

[lone wren]

!!support

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[hexed mango]

what others?

[spark rapids]

The other specialist skins

[obsidian elk]

I prefer this the other way around

[hexed mango]

for the base ultimate/gold stuff? like the casper+ranger skin?

[spark rapids]

Yeah

[hexed mango]

yeah do what infinity said

[obsidian elk]

T1 head with Deathless body

[hexed mango]

https://help.ea.com/

[lone wren]

Best to be solved by the support team

[spark rapids]

Thanks

[lone wren]

How are you by the way Morbius

[arctic grove]

Sheesh these transports are annoying in conquest

[lone wren]

Which transport

[arctic grove]

Take one objective and gotta go right back cause they do a world tour and drop 3 Sundances

Eh just both, but since I was on the US team, the super hind

[lone wren]

Yeah I nickname them as flying fortress and or 2042 AC-130

[arctic grove]

Yeah lol that’s what they feel like. They’re incredibly annoying because they can easily just keep spawning squads on your objectives, at least we won the game but damn, at least reduce em to 1 per team

[lone wren]

They take hits like it's nothing

[arctic grove]

Or seperate the MAV and transports so you get 1 in the air and 1 on the ground, which is why I’m pretty sure there’s 2 slots to begin with

They intended on people using the MAV and the superhind/condor

[lone wren]

Pilots that main flying know when to disengage etc

I am not use to flying because for some reason flying is not excellent to me

Turning is terrible

But eh I grew ro be more infantry

[arctic grove]

The helis are super agile now, the only problem is you can barely fly them cause they’re occupied by stealth helis farming kills, least they can do is shoot at the transports but nope

Which is why jets should be separated so you can have technically two attacks without getting headache combos like 2 nightbirds

And one or the other can focus on those transports and other air targets

[lone wren]

I have a dislike to the lock on at the moment

Well I need to try it out again to see if it's less annoying

[arctic grove]

Like in general?

[lone wren]

Well there is a bad delay from after flares and you are not able to lock on again till the flares on said aircraft is already restocked

[arctic grove]

Ohh I know exactly what you’re talking about

[obsidian elk]

I like my new skin

[arctic grove]

Your new skin is pretty dope

[lone wren]

It's best to work as a squad to kill one aircraft

[obsidian elk]

-wooshes through the air stealthily but with drip -

[arctic grove]

Yea

Bros this week's bundle kinda bad tbh. we got more white skins for my white guns collection.

[lone wren]

Reminds me of the preorder skin

[inner furnace]

can you not upload photos here anymore?

[lone wren]

Very white lmg

Very white DMR

[lone wren]

You can post photos if you are regular and or server boosting

I think

[arctic grove]

to match the very white legendary sundance skin

[arctic grove]

That is correct

[arctic grove]

The perfect breakaway skin

[nova sundial]

Im playing breakthrough rn on a map with two massive ravines in it and it’s just impossible to attack

[lone wren]

I am still yet to unlock the K30 since I have skins fie that

For

[nova sundial]

My team haven’t left our spawn because we just all keep getting killed

[lone wren]

Battlefield moment

[nova sundial]

20 minutes of battle and my team have been spawn killed for 17 of them

[lone wren]

Is the 2042 scar good with drum mag

[arctic grove]

Ye

[nova sundial]

OMG WE GOT A SECTOR

[lone wren]

Bit slower on the reload but I assume it at least lasts longer

[nova sundial]

We had 2 tickets left and secured a sector for 101 tickets

[lone wren]

Not fun

[arctic grove]

Correction: The perfect skin ONLY for breakaway

[arctic grove]

True

[lone wren]

The snow camo for the Russian lmg

[arctic grove]

I’m waiting for a better legendary skin in the item shop for lis or paik

Or Rao

Im waiting for a legendary Boris skin

[lone wren]

I personally can't stand purple

[arctic grove]

in the meantime im using the blue one

[lone wren]

That's all I see in 2042 is purple skins

[arctic grove]

Game promotes Neon Blue colors: Sells Purple skins

or neon green?

I dig lis’s legendary skin but why tf is half her body in exo suit

what color is the 2042 logo anyways?

[lone wren]

Depends

[obsidian elk]

Skill issue

[arctic grove]

Skill+Team issue

[lone wren]

Even Every month of Amazon prime exclusive are just purple camo skins

[arctic grove]

Basically what dice is doing with the white skins

Soo much white for 1 snow map smh

[lone wren]

But oh well

Gotta get all the purple

[arctic grove]

Free stuff is free am i right?

[lone wren]

Yup

Well it comes from my wallet for subscription

To get said free skins

[nova sundial]

WE ACTUALLY WON

idk how but my team actually managed to pull back and win a game with just 2 tickets left

[lone wren]

The only month that was not a purple camo was month 1 of Amazon prime

[nova sundial]

I just kept spawning and getting shot in the back or sniped from the enemy spawn

[lone wren]

Do you have the vss/as val

Communist

[nova sundial]

Yeah i have tried it

It’s like a 5 hit kill

[lone wren]

It is considered a good gun though

[nova sundial]

Took my like 7 shots to kill somebody i was shooting at

[lone wren]

Once you get attachments

[hexed mango]

description for the new background

[lone wren]

Interesting

[edgy oriole]

sfar skin dirty. so is the jet

[nova sundial]

Idk what the map I just played was but I never wanna play it again

[lone wren]

I have more purple camos for the characters than any other camo

[nova sundial]

@lone wren if i shoot you a ss can you tell me the map?

[lone wren]

Hm

[arctic grove]

Hourglass honestly has too much open space on some of these objectives

[nova sundial]

Idk what map that is but the new one that was added in when played on the breakthrough mode is completely unfair

[arctic grove]

Hourglass is the suuuper sandy one

[nova sundial]

Oh no not that one

[arctic grove]

And yeah breakthrough in general is kinda iffy

But if you have a superhind attacking on exposure is incredibly easy

[arctic grove]

Hostile Climes.... I think he meant climate

[arctic grove]

We need more Sandy skins

[lone wren]

Hourglass us a interesting map

[nova sundial]

@arctic grove I think exposure is the map i just played

It was bad

[arctic grove]

If it had orange trees yes it’s exposure

[lone wren]

Do you know what would be cool as a levolution the building on the cliff of exposure being partly collapsed

[nova sundial]

I think for exposure the map should slope down a lot more

[lone wren]

Nahh I reckon it's fine

I just want a natural disaster like a landslide

[nova sundial]

That’d be cool

Oooh i just thought of one

Part of the middle cliff collapses if it takes enough damage

Like the damn on bf4

[arctic grove]

It’s too bad the MAV and dm7s desert digital camo weren’t universal

[hidden sand]

We need more digital camos

[lone wren]

I can't stand purple camos tbh

That's all I see

[charred stag]

Welp I'm level 82 now

3 more levels and I'll finally get the dozer blast resistant set

[slate mist]

the grind to s001 is brutal man

good luck

[charred stag]

Yeah I've heard. I'm not trying to get to s001 though. Just want my blast resistant skin and I'll be happy

[hexed mango]

im S100

and there are a decent amount of people that are S200, S300, 400, 500, etc

[inner furnace]

i respect the people willing to play this game that much

[hexed mango]

9.9/10 of them XP Farmed at the start of the game

[inner furnace]

😬

well then

[hexed mango]

yep.

[inner furnace]

well props to that .1% then

[hexed mango]

i havent personally xp farmed, but i do play this game a lot
im also not great at the game so thats why im not like level 500 rn

[inner furnace]

there are some helicopter players in this game that just melt my mind with how skilled they are

like fucking spawn camping a team of 64 lmao

[hexed mango]

thats not skill, just exploiting the good helis lel
:)

[inner furnace]

its impressive to me lol

i remember on the one map in the desert with the skyscrapers, this dude just refused to let us leave

was dodging like 15 rockets and using all the buildings as cover

[arctic grove]

Or a wild fire would be cool too

[inner furnace]

i have enough of those in real life

no ty

[small ember]

Paik’s skin with the white and blue face paint how do you get that?

[arctic grove]

Leave it to dice to make backward decisions... Like the USA skin for the tank being universal like tf. Imagine being russian but using a USA skin on your tank

[arctic grove]

Due to global warming.

[inner furnace]

yep

[arctic grove]

perfect scenario for 2042

[inner furnace]

i live where the map Exposure is lol

[arctic grove]

Maple Syrup

[inner furnace]

mhmm

[arctic grove]

and Mooses

[inner furnace]

is that the first canadian map?

[arctic grove]

Yes

[inner furnace]

i thought so

i was really happy to see it when the update happened haha, was cool

we got a loooooooot of forest and mountain up here

[arctic grove]

It motivates me to visit the area one day

[inner furnace]

do it before its all smoke and ash i guess

its been bad

last year we had something like 600+ forest fires at the same time

entire province covered in smoke for weeks

[arctic grove]

Does anyone know if you can get mastery levels on weapons in xp restricted servers?

[white geyser]

Well... I'm taking a break playing BF 2042 and decide to play different games, until if I want to go back

[lone wren]

That's what I'm doing

[warm crater]

BF1

[crude surge]

Technically yes it depends on the restrictions

I've noticed anything that alters health outside of the default hardcore or alters damage doesn't give you mastery XP

[lone wren]

Bf1 is my personal favourite battlefield

[arctic grove]

so was bf4

[crude surge]

I adored BF3 but BFV grew on me I still keep squeezing in games

[lone wren]

Fun fact when bf1 was first released I was given a discount for it by a family friend whom worked at the store

[arctic grove]

bruh i feel like exposure if the only good map in 2042

[lone wren]

Bfv is actually good if you think about it

[arctic grove]

yea its still kinda disappointing tho

[crude surge]

I don't even need to think about it it's all the good things about battlefield

[lone wren]

I was personally hoping for the Eastern front to be the last dlc

[crude surge]

With significantly less overpowered helicopters lol

[arctic grove]

i was enjoying 2042 for a while but im kinda done with the game already

[lone wren]

For now

Until more maps come

[crude surge]

I still really really love 2042 but I'm definitely 100% ready for an update

[lone wren]

I hope for more

[arctic grove]

we aren't getting a new map after the season ends

i wonder if they will learn from exposure and make a map thats similar to it

[crude surge]

You know I don't even actually need a new map I would be happy with a couple new weapons or maybe a new vehicle I would even be happy if they just fixed the damn helicopters or gave you a few more options for shooting the stealth demons down

#buffthewildcat

[arctic grove]

just get soflam

bf4 had way more artillery and ground based vehicles

[crude surge]

I've had the soflam unlocked for a little while but it just doesn't stay painted quite long enough sometimes

[arctic grove]

you need a teammate for it

bf4 also had more launchers but in this game we only get two

[crude surge]

Something like a javelin would be really nice an anti-ground launcher even if it's non-reloadable

Or just more fixed gun options on ever map

[arctic grove]

these stealth helis are op af

[lone wren]

The recoiless can lock on to anything if you have a friend with the spotter

[lone wren]

They are powerful

[arctic grove]

its great against anything really

[hexed mango]

SOFLAM is op and nobody uses it
so is Rao, not enough people use him. sad

[arctic grove]

https://youtu.be/ryvysDwRSfU

[fiery dawn]

Like you said, more people should play Rao. SOFLAM alone isn’t often enough to deal with stealth chopper because of stealth mode

they’ll just flare the first missiles and then go into stealth until flares are back up

Rao eliminates this problem

A squad of 4 working together should be able to easily take down a stealth chopper tbh, but no one works together like that in this game unless they are in a premade party together.

[hexed mango]

Rao is my daddy

[fiery dawn]

Only takes 1 hack and 2 missiles to down a Huron or Hannibal

[hexed mango]

yep

sometimes i play Rao + Soflam so that my teammates can take the advantage

i personally just wish rao got more credit when a hacked vehicle gets destroyed (same with soflam)

[lone wren]

Yeah I know about the soflam because of a Aussie YouTuber that is well known for the funnest rankings of any gadgets and vehicles in battlefield

Tactics tier lists

[fiery dawn]

Yeah that would be nice

[arctic grove]

Guys i found quandale dingle

https://youtu.be/N7HvHA34cQ8

[dull spire]

so what counts as a gadget for kills with a gadget

[hexed mango]

sundance's grenades aswell

im assuming Boris also works but whatever

[copper fulcrum]

Recoilless M5, Sentry Turret, C5, etc.

[dull spire]

c5 was quickest

[arctic grove]

Anyone know how to fix attachments not unlocking on guns? I have the kill and mastery requirements and attachments won’t unlock. The only ones that do are sights.

[torn tulip]

are you sure you have mastery fully unlocked for the weapon for the certain attachments?

[arctic grove]

AK-24/ High power rounds need mastery 10 and 300 kills. My AK-24 is mastery 12

And has 300 kills

[torn tulip]

seems like a skill issue

honestly idk what the problem is try reporting it to dice

prob just a glitch on their end

[arctic grove]

Thanks

[fiery shoal]

only at bp level 25..

[tranquil turtle]

I'm on 40

[echo yew]

31

[arctic grove]

65

[copper fulcrum]

By next week maybe I'll be done.

[echo yew]

when i finish the BP and get that skin for Lis im out until S2

[tranquil turtle]

I want that hellfire player card

And the apache skin

In the end it's all just cosmetics and I already have all the useful stuff

[sharp marten]

Is there anywhere I can read the 2042 lore?

[tranquil turtle]

On the website

Should be around "world of 2042"

But beware, it's shit

[hexed mango]

noob numbers

[hexed mango]

ur shit, ur mom, ur dad, ur

[arctic grove]

Morb going crazy rn

[hexed mango]

Morbin on these fools

[tranquil turtle]

If you honestly think 2042's lore is good you are stupid

Read lord of the rings

[hexed mango]

if you, you are stupid

[arctic grove]

Do you know if tip of the spear can 100% be done with bots morb?

[hexed mango]

what

[arctic grove]

The dozer skin

[hexed mango]

yeah its only mastery 4

mastery 12 is max in solo

[sharp marten]

Why is it stupid to have a personal opinion on a certain lore?

[arctic grove]

Ah alright good to know

[tranquil turtle]

It is awful

[arctic grove]

I loaded into a bot match for fun I suppose I’m going to try to do it in here