battlefield-2042

[onyx vault]

And that was over a decade ago. And I still believe that.

[fiery shoal]

why not?

[echo yew]

i want to trust infinity ward though

[onyx vault]

It was so bad at showing the seams of all of the approximations made in online gaming.

At least earlier CODs.

The quick TTK, and some of the melee nonsense made it very clear that two players will always seeing very different things.

[arctic grove]

Jetpack specialist when

[copper fulcrum]

"You kids wouldn't last a second in a CoD MW2 Lobby"

[drowsy shuttle]

btw Dice... please give us throwing knifes! anybody knows if they have plans for this?

[arctic grove]

I really miss end of round voice lines

Don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes

[copper fulcrum]

inb4 it's locked to a specialist

[drowsy shuttle]

hum... hope not... but its still better than nothing.

[arctic grove]

I like my armor plates tbh

Shit is so nice. Saves my ass a lot

[drowsy shuttle]

one thing they need to remove is the damn suspense music that starts when theres like 100 tickets left yet.... holy shit that is really annoying...

[arctic grove]

Nah

[drowsy shuttle]

and they need to bring back that music from bf5 after conquer a sector

[arctic grove]

That music sounded really classical and like ww2-ish though

It's just not a fit thematically

[hexed mango]

i like that they have the ww2 music in portal for 1942 tho

and the relevant music for bf3 and bc2

[drowsy shuttle]

maybe... but it was damn good... was awesome running to next sector with that music as background...

[drowsy shuttle]

BSV goes brr brr

[copper fulcrum]

It's the 1942 music for 1942. However the deploy music is from BFV

[uncut bay]

pretty sure alex gave us a hard "no" on throwing knives

[arctic grove]

The solution for issues is typically not "let's do what the old game did"

That's how we end up with cod

[drowsy shuttle]

really? damn...

[copper fulcrum]

Which means there's a chance for a fuckin' Javelin?

[arctic grove]

Damn that would make Liz really redundant lol

[drowsy shuttle]

man throwing knifes is such an awesome feature... always love it in any game..

[arctic grove]

What we need is a specialist who takes a bunch of meth, then becomes a rampaging psycho for like 30 seconds, but is restricted to melee

[copper fulcrum]

No, I mean Javelin

[arctic grove]

Ohhh

[drowsy shuttle]

Battlefield 2042: Olympics DLC

[fiery shoal]

would be cool if in 2042 you got an explosive that you threw like that

make the velocity and range really low but it does huge damage against vehicles

[arctic grove]

The most powerful weapon ever seen in battlefield is the horse from bf1

[echo yew]

would be funny if they gave the NTW 50 like 1000 m/s of bullet velocity

[hexed mango]

hehehehaw

[arctic grove]

Wow

[hexed mango]

no, you're just really really bad

[gray python]

boa noite galera Host aberto RATS BR SERVER

[hexed mango]

im allowed to say that, because i actually have it T1'd

[hexed mango]

1. english please
2. #portal

folded. literally

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/joaquin-joker-joaquin-phoenix-dc-super-dc-super-villains-gif-17834530

[zealous needle]

sometimes i wish i could go back and play the beta

that version of the game was so perfect

[strange gust]

0

[arctic grove]

2042 has no destruction

[open tangle]

Why is that

[wide shore]

It does. The maps just aren’t full of destructible buildings like they used to be

[open tangle]

I bet it has something to do with 128 players or the clean presentation

[wide shore]

The system is actually better than BFV. But maps don’t showcase it enough

They’re too big and empty

[hidden sand]

I disagree. It, on a lot of the destructible buildings, takes way too many shots to actually do something.

[wide shore]

I don’t think so. Everything basically gets destroyed with 1 rocket hit.

Also I was just part of an 8 minute blowout on Orbital

I couldn’t believe my eyes

[hidden sand]

The uhhh

Labs? on Orbital come to mind

And the BFV buildings on the 1942 maps

[wide shore]

There’s just a lot of points of destruction on the orbital warehouses

Each wall has like 3 points

[arctic grove]

hows 2042 doing now that season 1 is out

im glad that this game isnt a shitstorm anymore and peforms much better on my series x than it did in February

I wanna use the AI soldiers instead of the specialists

The destruction is certainly there

It is showcased on the portal maps, and it's very apparent in areas of hourglass

It is clearly not a technical limitation.

Destruction is not always the best choice for gameplay though.

Complain about cover in AOW now... Imagine if everything was destructible

[open tangle]

Hourglass is an awful awful truly awful map

[arctic grove]

It's eye candy, sure

[open tangle]

How did it get through the testers

[arctic grove]

Why is it awful. BRB, taking a shower

Tag

[open tangle]

No cover, takes miles to walk anywhere, poor visibility

No

I had good matches on breakaway areas where there are big tents etc

I want breakaway weather right now cos I’m sweating

I like how we left behind the attack on titan chat

[wide shore]

Breakaway is only good at A and the oil rig

Everywhere else is just shit

[uneven belfry]

hold on can you get a ribbon higher than 3?

[wide shore]

Hourglass is good at the arena, B and the town further south. Sometimes sighting over E can be good

[wide shore]

Nah

[uneven belfry]

oh nice ive got all max then i 1 match

[wide shore]

Damn. Well done

[uneven belfry]

falck inc grenade mp9 with c5

[uneven belfry]

thank you, first complement i recived this year

[wide shore]

Well, that’s shitty. But you’re welcome

[uneven belfry]

atleast the previous one was from a girl my age witch i think has a crush on me so

and not couting that last one was on my 12th bday (iam 15 now)

it is shitty

[fiery dawn]

Perks of being born into this world with a penis attached to you :)

[arctic grove]

and it has no brain

a head with no brain

[eternal storm]

this game is an embarrassment to what bf3 and bf4 are.

[open tangle]

You’re blinded by nostalgia

[hexed mango]

(in case they didn’t answer) they were joking

cause obviously that is destruction

[open tangle]

I’m having a panic attack

[eternal storm]

no- i didnt play games for 16 years and just reinstalled them...nice try tho

[hexed mango]

unless they weren’t joking in that case i’m sad for them

[hexed mango]

skill issue

[hexed mango]

bf4 sucks

[eternal storm]

lol idiot

[hexed mango]

lol idiot

[open tangle]

I’ve seen mag2grid here before so not a new user

[eternal storm]

never said i was new, im saying i didnt play bf3 in 2011

[arctic grove]

To say BF3 and BF4 are better than 2042 is peak nostalgia and nonsense

[open tangle]

Me neither

[eternal storm]

so unless youre counting 'nostaglia' as playing bf3 and bf4 a year ago...youre wrtong.

[arctic grove]

I played BF3 and BF4 on release

And played them for years

Neither are as fun as 2042

[eternal storm]

youre allowed an opinion....but i think its fucking shit in comparison

[open tangle]

I’m looking at cods on steam and wow the prices

A 2007 game shouldn’t cost £20

[fiery dawn]

right? so useless

[arctic grove]

They are outdated, and their gunplay aged like shit. The class system is inferior to specialists.

The DLC model was also stupid. I hate paying up the ass for every new set of maps.

[hexed mango]

i replayed 4 a few months ago, after 2042 came out, the infantry combat is way worse, the guns don’t feel, and i mean feel, good, there are also too many guns that don’t differ from each other

whereas in 2042, the guns feel like they really do something, by feel i mean, sounds, effects, the guns reactions, ttk, etc, and each gun is mildly different from the next (maybe lesser for some smgs, but still present)

(i also played 4 on release, but this it to compare)

[open tangle]

One thing 4 had right was the maps.

I miss some of those maps

[hexed mango]

that’s true, however there were a few bad ones as always

[fiery dawn]

The maps in 2042 are dogshit because the game was originally being designed as a battle royale

[hexed mango]

but def good ones that shined bright

[open tangle]

I loved that each map pack had a different theme

[hexed mango]

source: trust me

jk but

[remote kiln]

4's maps especially non dlc ones are, well pretty bad

[fiery dawn]

hee hee hee ha

[hexed mango]

we just next exposure x5 in season 2 and we’ll be set

[remote kiln]

is a design choice rather than mechanical

[open tangle]

Why are you not sleeping it’s past 3 am

[hexed mango]

scott moment

[remote kiln]

I slept till 12 lol, I leave for work in 3 hours

[arctic grove]

I didn't even like 4's maps

[open tangle]

Not true

[arctic grove]

Lol this is bullshit.

[hexed mango]

i liked a majority of them, but tbh i mainly played on locker and metro cause i was lazy

[arctic grove]

Myth

[hexed mango]

i would probably play on all of them if breakthrough was a thing

[open tangle]

I want a soviet map with communist blocks

[arctic grove]

idiots making full length videos like a week after BF 2042's release speculating about the development timeline.

Claiming that it was supposed to originally be a battle royale.

[eternal storm]

not idiots- "we are ahead of schedule" remem?

[arctic grove]

That's bullshit

[remote kiln]

it isn't actually entirely wrong

[hexed mango]

[remote kiln]

just the conclusion is

[arctic grove]

Straight facts

[remote kiln]

the maps were not based around a BR, but the game was during the early phases of its development

[eternal storm]

lol the simping for the game is strong here. its shit, a flop...

[fiery dawn]

How come the maps feel like they weren't designed with normal battlefield gameplay in mind

[arctic grove]

He claimed that the maps are shit because the game was originally supposed to be a battle royale. This is false. The maps are not shit, nor are these maps designed around BR.

[remote kiln]

because a "normal" game has 64 players, not 128

[fiery dawn]

The maps are objectively bad

[remote kiln]

it's a fundamentally different design methodology

[fiery dawn]

Most of them anyway

[arctic grove]

Because you suck ass at the game, and can't adapt to larger maps and 128 players. Simple explanation

[remote kiln]

I don't care about the maps, I'm saying that the game was going to be built as a BR, this is stated by DICE themselves during interviews

[eternal storm]

definitely a troll

[fiery dawn]

I top the leaderboard every game I play, so no my skill has nothing to do with it. Bringing skill into every argument shows you can't think very big lol

[eternal storm]

trying to argue how good the map is when the player count is miserably low cos its shit

[arctic grove]

What? I wasn't refuting it being a BR at some point. I was refuting the claim that the maps are bad because of BR stuff.

[remote kiln]

yeah so your first quote was pointless is what I was getting at

[arctic grove]

You are an idiot. What player count statistics are you looking at? Find me the player counts for origin, PS4, PS5, xbone, and series x.

[eternal storm]

the game is widely known and agreed upon to be shit, but you do you princess

[arctic grove]

Calling his claim bullshit? Not useless, justme being right

[arctic grove]

Imagine using popular consensus as an argument

[remote kiln]

no it's you wasting your time, because I agreed with you lol

calm down and stop overassuming things

[eternal storm]

for a game aimed at the masses? absolutely

[arctic grove]

Calm down? Look who's assuming things...

[arctic grove]

Ah, so Cod and every game that ever outsold BF is superior I suppose?

[remote kiln]

you are in here arguing with every single person in the channel, take a chill dude

[fiery dawn]

This guy is extremely strongly opinionated and super hostile when anyone challenges him on them xD

[arctic grove]

Just let me have my fun

[remote kiln]

no it isn't funny you just deteriorate the environment

[fiery dawn]

Was just casually talkin jets yesterday and he came in and started throwin around insults for no reason

[lunar finch]

Average hardcore player

[arctic grove]

I didn't throw any insults, in fact I outright agreed with many of your points rebel.

[remote kiln]

you called him garbage at the game

[fiery dawn]

We did agree with almost everything yet you asked me if I could read English like bro what xD

[remote kiln]

dude just cut the bait

[arctic grove]

Yesterday? When we were talking about jets? I don't recall you being in that discussion

[remote kiln]

no literally 5 minutes ago

[arctic grove]

Yes because you clearly did not understand what I was saying despite me saying it multiple times. That's not an insult, that's a genuine question about your ability to read.

[arctic grove]

@remote kiln this statement of mine is clearly in reference to the discussion rebel mentioned yesterday about jets. Not the current one

This is clear by the fact that I've agreed with none of the points he's made today

What is your objective by arguing with me ?

[remote kiln]

I would ask the same thing with your hostility to everyone in a channel, but you already answered that

[arctic grove]

I'm also hostile to morbius?

Surely I haven't been hostile to everyone in the channel, in fact, I'm not even being hostile towards you. You are free to interpret my words as you like

[remote kiln]

cool story anyways @fiery dawn as I said before the maps aren't the same because the games are designed differently for mechanics

[fiery shoal]

absolutely no proof or even suggestions on this.. these would probably be even WORSE maps for br too

[remote kiln]

2042 maps align for 128 players, 4/5/1 etc all use 64 players, so the scales for distance are different

[hidden sand]

Covid probably played a huge role too, because photogrammetry wasn't on the table like it was with BFV.

That's more about environments than level design, but still.

[remote kiln]

I doubt Covid has had that big of an impact

DICE were already used to working from home, most of what went wrong were internal processes

[hidden sand]

It def played a role in how good the maps actually looked and the objects that could be decorated with.

[arctic grove]

Doubt it. The 2042 maps have a flow to them. There are wide open areas that are clearly meant to be traversed using a vehicle. You can literally drop vehicles from the sky. Even during the beginning of the match, you can drop a jeep. around objectives, there are a lot of hotspots for infantry combat. Hourglass for instance has some of the most well designed infantry cluster fucks ever. Especially near that stadium. In my opinion, there is no need to go over the sand dunes on foot.

[remote kiln]

sure, but it's mostly arbitrary

2042 maps are focused on strategy rather than graphical fidelity like 1 and 5

[arctic grove]

Wait was photgrammetrynin BFV? I thought that was a BF1 thing

[remote kiln]

even if photographic telemetry was used in 2042 you would be hard pressed to find it being useful to begin with

[arctic grove]

Why tho

Couldn't it make it look better?

[remote kiln]

it's not that it wouldn't make it, better

it's that you wouldn't care about it really

[arctic grove]

Ah

I will say 2042 is kinda a detail downgrade, but yeah, I just don't really pay attention to that

It's got a way different flow than BFV

[remote kiln]

Map design objectives influence how a player perceives it, 3/4 were based around strategical alignments by principle whereas 1 and 5 were oriented around fidelity

[hidden sand]

Uh, no photogrammetry was one of the most important aspects of making sure levels were designed correctly. It played a massive role in BFVs level design process.

[arctic grove]

I agree with deco on this

[remote kiln]

it's why players think 1 and 5 are "better" for map design, they aren't in reality, they just look nicer

[arctic grove]

That's actually a really good point

[arctic grove]

Photogrammetry is more of an aesthetic thing though. How does that play into map design

[lunar finch]

Tbh i dont think so. Like Kaleidoscope looks so halfassed all those sky scrapers in the background and theres like only 4 on the actual map

[arctic grove]

I think with regards to map design we mean more like how it plays. Not how it looks

[remote kiln]

yes, because as I noted before this was intentional

[hidden sand]

Because map design is the easy (Nothing is easy in level design, but in comparison to the visual side) part, making it look the way it does is the hardest.

[arctic grove]

Idk about that, but even then, isn't gameplay a lot more relevant than difficulty designing things

[hidden sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfLrkL6PoB0&t

[arctic grove]

Man you love your BFV lol

[lunar finch]

Map design is hard but they did such a shit job on 2042s maps theres no way

[remote kiln]

putting it in a different light even if photo telemetry was used in 2042, to notice it's visual impact, you have to intentionally ignore what you're looking at

which is why it's not that important

put it in something like hourglass when half of the map is covered by sand isn't anything to go by

[hidden sand]

This dev talk does a really good job at highlighting just how important it was to BFV, for instance.

[arctic grove]

Like here when you say "designed correctly". What do you mean by that?

[hidden sand]

To their standards. The level of fidelity other maps brought.

[arctic grove]

So purely visual

[remote kiln]

Map design objectives influence how a player perceives it, 3/4 were based around strategical alignments by principle whereas 1 and 5 were oriented around fidelity

[hidden sand]

4? Absolutely not.

I absolutely agree with you on 3, though.

[remote kiln]

4 was, it was taken from 3

the design principles didn't change, the placements for flags did

the biggest separator with 3 and 4 is that designers built the map before objectives were placed whereas it was the reverse in 3, but the principles were the same for both

[hidden sand]

Hmm this is more of a subjective thing though. 4 prioritized visuals over good level design quite often imo, on essentially every base game level.

[remote kiln]

yes they did, however this isn't to do with map structure

[obsidian elk]

Casper bundle on Thursday

[arctic grove]

My rival

[remote kiln]

1 and 5 maps are built, fundamentally from the ground up differently to the rest of the games is what I'm essentially getting at

3/4/2042 (minus 128 players) all follow the same principles with their objectives

[obsidian elk]

We meet again

-tumbleweed rolls through the sky-

[hidden sand]

I'm kind of confused on what you're getting at to be honest. The environmental side of it is different yeah, but the gameplay part of level design isn't.

[zealous needle]

it always baffles me when people say this because the majority of environment textures of bfv were photogrammetry

[hidden sand]

They all start out the same when you're designing a level.

[zealous needle]

like its weird how people cant tell

[remote kiln]

this isn't environment, or textures

it's map structural creation

[zealous needle]

wrong reply

[hidden sand]

Yeah, but that hasn't really changed and photogrammetry wouldn't require it too.

[zealous needle]

meant to reply to this

[arctic grove]

BFV maps aren't as memorable as 2042 maps

[remote kiln]

of course it has, it changed with 2042, literally from 5

[arctic grove]

Oh I just wasn't aware

Ignorance

[hidden sand]

Drawing up flag placements and how they are balanced between each other wouldn't really change outside of considering new gameplay elements.
You would use the same philosophies that were used in the refractor era even. Photogrammetry makes it an easier task though, you can cheat more, if that's what you mean.

[remote kiln]

2042/3/4 all focus on strategical principles meaning things like high vertical engagements for gunfights (capturing flags etc) are orientated around how the map is built, whereas in 1 and 5 the objective is not with this, but rather allowing the player to perceive it

[fervent grotto]

Iwo Jima is easily more memorable then any 2042 map

[remote kiln]

it's why 1 and 5 maps are all structurally flat compared to the rest of the games, its an intentional decision

[fervent grotto]

Iwo Jima (ESPECIALLY on breakthrough) is the BF experience

At least for BFV it is

[arctic grove]

Idk, BFV didn't have those battlefield moments

[hidden sand]

I'm not getting how photogrammetry plays into that.

[fiery zenith]

🥱

[fervent grotto]

How many hours you have in game?

[arctic grove]

Like 180 or so

[remote kiln]

because even if photogrammetry was implemented in 2042 players arent going to notice it enough to care is the tldr

[fervent grotto]

Mmm ok, well idk then. I was gonna say if you didn’t play enough you wouldn’t experience any, but maybe I’ve just played a bunch lol. I had tons of BF moments on BFV

[remote kiln]

they care about it in 1 and 5, because it's visually noticeable

see prior point on map structure

[arctic grove]

Well iwo Jima had a lot of vehicle infantry interaction, and it was a lot of fun, but it was kind of linear compared to 2042 maps.

[fiery shoal]

id say its because bfv was a title that went back to the basics to reinvent the gameplay so to say. bf1 was full of those bf moments, but imo it was cluttered with too many mechanics (mostly bad mechanics at that) and still using "oldschool" fps gameplay, bfv got rid of the fluff and modernized the gameplay

[arctic grove]

Yeah, when I say lacked the BF moments, I actually don't see that as a bad thing. I really loved BFV

It was a very streamlined experience

[fiery shoal]

those bf moments are a large part of the bf identity though

[remote kiln]

it's quite telling when you ask folk what does "battlefield moments" actually mean, you don't get a consistent answer

just abstract ideas of what it can be

[arctic grove]

But it didn't have as much shit going on. Not a lot of random insane shit

[fiery shoal]

its not like you can look up merriam webster dictionary for a definition of " bf moments"

[arctic grove]

True that

[fervent grotto]

Idk it’s definitely my favorite bf. Me and my friends have so much time on BFV and we’ve had so much fun on it

[fiery shoal]

pretty good gist of bf moments xD

[arctic grove]

That's respectable because it's a really good game.

[remote kiln]

not even in the "define it" way

just in terms of what it actually means

[fervent grotto]

This is a true “battlefield” moment

[arctic grove]

It's definitely very tight on gunplay. I personally felt BFv's gameplay was a little too fast and COD-like, but I can see why it's loved.

[fiery shoal]

wouldnt "what it actually means" be defining?

opposite of that being abstract

[fervent grotto]

That’s probably why I liked it lol

[remote kiln]

different connotations, if you are able to define something, it means the correlation has a flat idea, with saying what it means it's identifying there's no pluralistic form for it either

[fervent grotto]

The gun play is very similar, and the animations in BFV were so slick. Like when you jumped off a roof and did the tac roll to land. Mwah

[fiery shoal]

talk about abstract

[fervent grotto]

The movement in BFV is so amazing. It’s incredibly smooth and just absolutely beautiful

[next onyx]

Cod like what?

[fervent grotto]

That’s one change I didn’t like in 2042. I was sad they changed the movement system

[arctic grove]

Also, people really really don't talk about this with BFV, but there are way way less opportunities to die from vehicles. There are tanks and stuff, but they are slower and kinda easy to avoid. Planes will NEVER be great at totally oppressing infantry like helicopters do. BFV had not helicopters. Sure planes would occasionally bomb people, but most of the time they were dogfighting.

@fiery shoal also made a good point about the BF1 mechanics. BFV lacks all that extra bloat, so it just boils down to being a really good infantry guy. Not as much random uncontrollable factors that will kill you

The thing I loved most about BFV was vehicle customization, and especially the plane combat

[fervent grotto]

I mean technically it did have helicopters but that was only in firestorm

[arctic grove]

Best vehicles in battlefield

[arctic grove]

Yeah that thing doesn't count haha

[plucky pebble]

[remote kiln]

the perception that vehicles had less opportunities is also because of the different map structure

[arctic grove]

Man the BFV planes were amazing

[remote kiln]

interesting how things interlink isn't it

[next onyx]

Bf5 had extremely good infantry and maps catered to then.

[fiery shoal]

id say the lack of helis is probably the largest contributor to the lack of vehicle domination, there were phases of planes and tanks being utterly ruthless in bfv too

[arctic grove]

Idk if that's just perception. I really did feel like I didn't die to vehicles much. It was really infantry focused.

[next onyx]

Random recoil was annoying but infantry was overall fun.

[hidden sand]

I think I understand your point now. Given the era BFV and 1 are set in, photogrammetry was a lot more vital and amping up the experience.

[fervent grotto]

I honestly think BFV is the closest we’ll ever get to a Colab between Cod and BF

[next onyx]

Yeah. Pre nerf m2 and 1a planes.

[remote kiln]

oh no me saying perception is just pointing out the idea, it's definitely true

[arctic grove]

100% absolutely m

[remote kiln]

pretty much

[fervent grotto]

Type 2A

[fiery shoal]

bleh, 2a wasnt even that good

[next onyx]

I don't get the cod similarities.

[fiery shoal]

suomi was always there and arguably better even after 2a release

[next onyx]

Grease gun was fun.

[hidden sand]

ZK is the ultimate gun that absolutely nobody uses

[fervent grotto]

Ehh idk 2A go brrrrr

[fiery shoal]

the only annoying thing with the 2a addition was EVERYONE running it which just lead to massive amounts of revive trains

[next onyx]

The type 2 a was just easy to use.

[fervent grotto]

The ZK is criminally underrated

[fiery shoal]

i was in the scrim scene so absolutely everyone used it

[arctic grove]

2042 in comparison to BFV is way way less infantry focused. As I said before, the maps have large sections that seem to be designed specifically for vehicles. Just the size alone.

Strangely enough, I actually prefer the infantry combat in 2042 over 5. I just like the speed of it, and specialists mix it up and make things more unpredictable. BFV is a lot closer to a competitive FPS.

[fervent grotto]

My favorite gun is the Boys AT

[hidden sand]

Well that's different ofc, I meant publics

[fiery shoal]

90% of scrims were either zk or fg42

[fervent grotto]

It wasn’t easy to use, but man when you got good with it was it satisfying

[fiery shoal]

general randoms are fucking idiots who just pick the go to "ease of use gun"

[arctic grove]

M2 carbine was my baby

[remote kiln]

flatter maps = infantry having a bigger influence on the game than is normal for a battlefield game = closer to the experience folk will encounter for COD is the tldr

[hidden sand]

Isn't the right side final upgrade for the ZK called "Fast bullets" or something LOL

[fiery shoal]

g1-5 and zh/1905 were busted for the longest time and they were rare, only zh/1906 became popular around 6.2

[mental delta]

M1 Garand and Thompson all day

[next onyx]

You spend the majority of the game as infantry I don't see why they shouldn't have maps catered to them.

[fervent grotto]

Ok but let’s just talk about how the assault class got absolutely cucked by the level 20 unlock gun

[fiery shoal]

woefully medium range weapons that werent suited for 64 player maps

[next onyx]

The g1-5 was amazing.

[hidden sand]

Anyone against a infantry focused map in BF doesn't understand the point of the series.
It's a sandbox.

[next onyx]

Garand was just a turner smle with less recoil.

Which made it fun.

[fervent grotto]

I mean seriously? A semi auto version of the gun you get when you start the game 💀

[mental delta]

They were good to me

[arctic grove]

Personally I like being infantry on maps that have a lot of vehicles. Makes it feel crazy

[remote kiln]

exposure ironically enough is the map which has the biggest influence from infantry in any other from 2042

[arctic grove]

That's why it's loved

[next onyx]

It's more useful than it seems homeslice.

[arctic grove]

Tbh, bf community really hates vehicles.

[mental delta]

That's part of the game it's dumb to hate it

[next onyx]

No one likes being killed from something they can barely fight back against.

[hidden sand]

Tanks are quite literally useless on it. Even if you're good at tanking, the points catered to them are essentially dead half of the time.

[fiery shoal]

most weapons were definitely good, hardly any were actually bad, but they were just extremely stuck to a specific role/range of engagement. its like using a 2a at anything but close range... just why?

[fervent grotto]

Sure it may be useful but it is not level 20 useful

[mental delta]

It's like hating a whole part of the game

[arctic grove]

Yeah but that's the essence of battlefield

[hidden sand]

BT Exposure on the other hand, is actually good for tanking.

[arctic grove]

Combined arms.

[remote kiln]

not true, I actually exclusively play tank on exposure

[arctic grove]

There is an element of randomness. Unpredictably.

[next onyx]

The g1-5 is busted 30+1 rounds being able to three hit kill people within 30m is nutty.

[remote kiln]

it actually has excellent contacts for tanks, it's just not immediately obvious

[arctic grove]

It's not a realistic game, but it gives you the feeling of a war almost

[hidden sand]

Wait, there's something I forgot to consider here
Are you on current gen or last?

[remote kiln]

pc

[hidden sand]

That's why then.

I'm on last gen, tanking in Exposure conquest is bore simulator.

[fervent grotto]

Yea idk what lobbies you guys are in but every game I get into a match there is always some loser with a maxed out tank just sitting in his spawn area and camping an objective

[remote kiln]

the 2 elevators means you can rotate between every layer of the map and the points on the lower levels is total meat grinder for tanks

[hidden sand]

Problem being that tanks are so, so weak that going down there essentially does nothing for you unless you get lucky.

[remote kiln]

^

[mental delta]

Yes I guess some weapons were really hard to use at some range and weren't versatile enough, I used LMGs a lot and hopefully you can almost use them at any range

[next onyx]

Those main MPAT shells are just depressing to use.

[hexed mango]

answer: the rest of your team sucked

[hidden sand]

Lol way

Lemme get this clip I have

Well, I might be able to get it I'm not sure

[remote kiln]

that'd be quite difficult to get 42 assists if they sucked

[hidden sand]

It shows exactly what's wrong with the MPAT

[remote kiln]

mostly because tank drivers orientate for STAFF shell combat I take the opposite approach

HEAT is the way to go

[next onyx]

Everyone uses heat because the main cannon is depressing against infantry.

[hidden sand]

Here's the problem Deco.
You take HEAT, alright, you can somewhat deal with infantry.
But you have to consider the lack of cover for tanks, the amount of counters they have, just how many people can do so, and that at the end of the day the enemy tank with MPAT wins.

[hexed mango]

@dire quest bot moment

[hidden sand]

There's no armour angling, so it's unfortunately whoever shoots first wins.

[remote kiln]

the entire lower deck is cover

you are shielded from all aircraft

that's half of the threats removed immediately it's actually excellent for tank combat

[hidden sand]

Not really? Maneuvering between the tunnels is very clunky.
Infantry are equal threats to tanks.

Weird thing though, it's not, on BT.

It's specifically Conquest Exposure that tanks become a problem.

[remote kiln]

the only way you're dying to infantry is if you're not paying attention/some guy comes up with c4

which is why you need a spotter for the 30m scan

that's exactly why you use HEAT

[hidden sand]

Nah, that's not the issue.

It's the fact that so many people can nail you with an M5, and now, the TV Missile which can maneuver around the cover you do have.

[fiery shoal]

ffs ive joined maybe 5 matches today, 4 of them end within 2 minutes, i got to play half of a match once....

[hidden sand]

Being cautious is doable, but you will be blasted into bits very quickly regardless.

[remote kiln]

I've played what 50+ rounds of exposure I've died to TGMs maybe like 5 times in a tank

they aren't as lethal as they seem

[fiery shoal]

you could be playing extremely cautious and not contributing to the win though

[remote kiln]

considering tanks are supporting roles, that's the entire idea

[fiery shoal]

contributing to a win should be the idea

[remote kiln]

it is contributing lol

[hidden sand]

They are absolutely lethal. You're not considering the amount of them and M5 users.

[remote kiln]

it's literally cutting off 2 entire sectors from the enemy

the B and d objectives are entirely locked down from c

[fiery shoal]

and they could have the other 4/5

[remote kiln]

if they have the other 4/5 that's a team problem not mine

[hidden sand]

A TV Missile isn't usually the final blow to you, it's them and then something else.

Because you literally cannot counter them at times.

[hexed mango]

outplayed

[fiery shoal]

depending on the point youre "holding" you can likely leave it to cap/contest/help other points to contribute even more to a win though

[arctic grove]

Whenever I use a tank in 2042, I survive for a very long time so long as I keep moving. The tanks in this game are very fast

[remote kiln]

no I do lol, they just aren't on the same lethality with tanks as aircraft

nowhere near infact

[hidden sand]

No, but the difference is minimal.

[remote kiln]

no it's very different actually

[fervent grotto]

Bro no way guys they got the guided missle from fornite in 2042

Wonder if you can rocket ride

[hexed mango]

lets try

[remote kiln]

it's pointless, exposure is an infantry focused map, me rotating to the top layer is long enough for one infantry guy to fly down and take a flag

[fervent grotto]

Rocket riding in bf, never thought that would be a question I’d ask

[remote kiln]

c has 2 vantage areas from d on the lower and above layer it's exposed on 2 angles

[hidden sand]

Not really when you can be completely disabled very, very easily and then have nothing to counter the amount of incoming Sundance grenades, M5s, and TV Missiles, except for backing up very, very slowly.

[vagrant stirrup]

Is there any tips to play Boris in now patches?

[remote kiln]

remember I play tanks

[hidden sand]

I do too, it's essentially all I've used this past week.

[remote kiln]

this isn't how things go it's just a projection

[hidden sand]

It's not projection, it's exactly what I've experienced.

[vagrant stirrup]

Turret is kind a bit useless after the nerf

[fiery shoal]

im not actually trying to optimize tank gameplay on a specific map, just pointing out that these super basic face value statements are not always the best way to contribute to a win

[remote kiln]

sure but I'm not playing the game competitively

could some premade hop in a condor and be as 2x as effective sure, but I don't care about that

[hidden sand]

This isn't me listing things out of previous frustrations lol. I can see why you think so, but that's just what I feel is a problem for tankers.

[remote kiln]

you have played for a week, it isn't an optimal amount of time

[fiery shoal]

the topic isnt playing competitively or not though..

[hidden sand]

I have played for a week? No dude. I've stuck to primarily tanks this past week. I've used them heavily the time I've owned the game.

[remote kiln]

yeah it's about contributing to a win, locking down 2 sectors is unorthodox, it doesn't mean it's not useful for contributing to a team

locking down 2 chokepoints is infact very effective for draining tickets, give it a shot

[next onyx]

Oh yeah Suika about what to make the m5 ar viable over the scar? No proper idea really.

[hidden sand]

I completely forgot I asked you that lmao, had a ?? moment

[remote kiln]

it isn't about the game it's about exposure

[fiery shoal]

never said it wasnt useful, only said you could likely do more for the team to contribute to a win.

[next onyx]

Yeah I checked up on my overnight pings.

[hexed mango]

use it as an smg ez
tbh idk, its just a good starter weapon

[remote kiln]

I'm not too interested in the "meta" ways of contribution tbh

[next onyx]

I'd personally give it the characteristics of the m416.

[hexed mango]

its well balanced

[next onyx]

Damage and all.

A weapon just being a starter weapon rubs me the wrong way.

[fiery shoal]

doing more =/= only following meta

[remote kiln]

it's what you judge it from though

which is why it's perceived that way

[next onyx]

I like it when those guns are just as effective as ones from the start.

Like the mp40 from vanguard.

[hidden sand]

On Conquest, for last gen, the tunnels you would use aren't open the same way they are on current gen, which is something you've not considered.
Moving between them doesn't do much when once again, a TV Missile can go right through them anyway.

And going down hill doesn't help either, that put's you at even more of a disadvantage.

[remote kiln]

no you're right I'm not considering last gen as I don't play it

[cyan trout]

Can't we all just go for T1 and ignore everything else

[hidden sand]

I clarified that earlier though.

[fiery shoal]

im trying for BSV but this fucking game doesnt want me to play..

[remote kiln]

the majority of the playerbase are on pc/newer gen, which is why I don't use it

[next onyx]

No you must join a match mid game!

Vss good yes?

A bit too good.

[remote kiln]

last gen is a fundamentally different game you can't cross compare them

[cyan trout]

Pc optimization?

[hidden sand]

Then I'm not sure why you responded to me in the first place tbh.

[fiery shoal]

ive joined 6 matches today, 4 the game ended in 2 minutes (only one was a "win"), 1 game i joined half way through, and the other crashed...

[remote kiln]

I assumed you were going on about current rather last gen, but my error

[hidden sand]

All good.

[next onyx]

Weird to think people don't want persistent lobbies since this shit always happens.

Have you given exodus conquest a go?

Oh yeah rush through the ages exists too. Should try to get some games in it today.

The xm8 lmg is a fucking peashooter though.

Without classic weapon tuning.

[hidden sand]

Lobbies are persistent, what's different is that it sends you to the main menu to continue the countdown rather than keep you on the loading screen.

Which is what needs to be fixed.

[fiery shoal]

just getting screwed over with joining matches

[hidden sand]

Which was wack to find out, but go off ig DICE.

[remote kiln]

that's intentional, it's unlikely to be changed

team based matchmaking

[fiery shoal]

nah, its 64 player conquest yea?

[next onyx]

It is but it feels really well catered.

Since you have the original bf maps in it too.

[fiery shoal]

ahh

[next onyx]

Stupid feature. Portal does it why can't it be in all out warfare.

[remote kiln]

Caspian border really is a show for how busted the stealth helicopter is

[next onyx]

Its fun to get sneaky angles in noshahr and Caspian.

Yeah sadly.

[remote kiln]

it's quite extraordinary

[next onyx]

There's Arica harbour too which allows three helicopters at once too.

It's fucking awful.

Don't get why we can use custom choppers in that map but whatever.

If there was just a world spawn blackhawk for either side that'd be fine.

[remote kiln]

then there's stuff like this

SRR needs to be added to 2042 just for the distance checker

[hidden sand]

Arica Harbour having 3 attack heli slots is hilarious honestly

There's a reason the original didn't have any attack helos in it's conquest equivalent

[next onyx]

Oh no but people need their AT choppers.

[remote kiln]

Arica is depressing to play as a tank main

if you aren't getting shot by 3 helis there's a guy who's laid AT mines in the spawn

[hidden sand]

Just like the simulations

People would do that shit in BC2 too

It was ridiculous lol

[remote kiln]

literally lmao

just add night vision back

[next onyx]

Thermals would be cool but vehicle thermals were obnoxious.

The gunners in bf4 with FLIR could see your outline at the other end of the map..

For tanks I would agree on it though.

[remote kiln]

the gunners having thermals was busted I exclusively want it to be the tank driver

[hidden sand]

Tanks don't need thermals imo.

[remote kiln]

you can't have that in 2042 with artillery

[next onyx]

Oh yeah the 60mm flak pods.

They need to be fixed hard.

They're stupid.

[hidden sand]

Hm

I tried the 60mm flak pods Way, they really didn't do much?

[next onyx]

They're a one to two hit kill.

[hidden sand]

I can't figure out why there'd be a difference.

[next onyx]

They're really easy to use.

[remote kiln]

ehh

ehhhh

[hidden sand]

Really?? I was needing to hit enemies like 4 times.

[next onyx]

Weird.

[remote kiln]

their max distance is 25m

they aren't broken as way says

the splash damage requires 2-3 if the artillery isn't a direct hit

armour reduces the damage too

[next onyx]

25m, really? I've sat in the tunnel and my gunner was pricking people at the tunnel distance on exposure.

[hexed mango]

rush gets this amount of vehicles on attack

ngl thats broken af

defense gets like 1

[remote kiln]

you can extend the range by aiming vertically but it's quite difficult

[next onyx]

Err for context. D side tunnel.

Its not really that difficult.

Once you get the hang of it that becomes irrelevant.

[remote kiln]

it is, the debris on the tunnels means you can't splash behind

unless you directly aim out anyways

[next onyx]

If the gunner from the other day was in here he'd probably be able to explain.

[hidden sand]

Wasn't he getting splash kills?

[next onyx]

He was.

[remote kiln]

reduce their splash damage and increase the reload but they don't need any major nerfs

[hidden sand]

Yeah that's weird then. Splash dmg was horrible in my experience.

[remote kiln]

60mm is supposed to be lethal

[next onyx]

He was getting multi kill after multi kill.

It really depends.

[remote kiln]

you're talking about a chokepoint where grenades are spammed

they are all going to be half or low health

[next onyx]

But it wasn't just there.

At the start too he was getting kills at ridiculous angles.

I'm on 4 kills he's already tripled that.

[remote kiln]

meh good player then I suppose but they aren't that broken

[hidden sand]

Huh.

[remote kiln]

"that" as in you can pick it up and get multi kills

[next onyx]

It was his first time and he barely knew how they worked.

[hidden sand]

I must be doing something wrong then.

[remote kiln]

??

[next onyx]

He was saying in the chat that it was his first time. I do agree on a longer reload for it.

[hidden sand]

I'll try using them again tonight when I play for a bit.

[next onyx]

Just something that tones it back jeez.

[remote kiln]

meh if it was one game, it happens

but you aren't getting that consistently with the artillery

[next onyx]

That's the biggest issue. In all the times I sat in the wildcat in exposure there's that gunner going off with the flak.

[hidden sand]

But eh. If they are genuinely that good, I'd say It's fine because you need a decent driver anyway and wildcats are super vulnerable.

[remote kiln]

you're in a wildcat wdym ofc that'd happen

it's AA not anti infantry

[next onyx]

It says its anti infantry and air.

The wildcat is an Lav, tank destroyer and aa all in one package.

[haughty dagger]

The wildcat that sits at F1 and shoots down at C1 is so annoying

Legit can farm so many kills

[next onyx]

Oh God those people.

[remote kiln]

on second thought no the enemy team is just terrible lol

[next onyx]

Needs to specifically catered in a specific load out but still.

[remote kiln]

500 combined score with 3 players tells you more than you need to know

[hidden sand]

I'll give the vehicle team that. The wildcat has varied playstyles which is nice. Do wish the 50mm oneshot infantry tho.

[next onyx]

They weren't terrible.

The enemy team sure as hell wasn't terrible considering how many tickets we had at the end..

[remote kiln]

40% of them had a negative kdr that game

that's 14 out of 32

[next onyx]

Because they were being farmed.

[hexed mango]

crossbow needs the PSO :)

[next onyx]

I'm surprised they even managed to put up a fight anyways.

[remote kiln]

yeah if they can't figure out how to stop it then they clearly aren't that good

enemy team deserved it

[next onyx]

But that what happens when you have a gunner abusing a broken ass weapon.

We were destroyed though you can see the deaths.

I had him sit in the wildcat with me, barely even close to the point and he still farmed.

[hidden sand]

Really wonder why it was so shit for me.

[next onyx]

Wish I knew too.

[remote kiln]

actually no theres something else to note for that game

[hidden sand]

In fact, I even used it on the same spot in one match.

[remote kiln]

the kills don't stack with the death count

meaning the enemy team was doing a shit ton of revives aka way too much lol

yeah they were garbage makes sense

[next onyx]

If they were garbage then why did they put up such a fight?

They really did put up a fight that round.

[hidden sand]

Maybe you were carrying your team

[next onyx]

It was just easy to abuse the wildcat.

[remote kiln]

you can put up a fight by making yourself a target

but it doesn't mean they're good

[next onyx]

Yeah I was carrying my team easily because it's that easy.

[remote kiln]

the opposite

"hur hur tank let's stare at it in the face it'll die eventually"

[next onyx]

They were sending all manner of rockets.

They sure as hell weren't looking at the pretty tank.

[remote kiln]

and you and that dude still got that many kills

it speaks for itself

[hidden sand]

Maybe the wildcat could just be utilized that way though?

[next onyx]

Yeah, it speaks how easy it is to use.

[hidden sand]

It's not completely off the table that it's just that strong.

[remote kiln]

uh I mean, could be? but the artillery on the t28 and wildcat are the same

would be surprising if it was just the wildcat

[next onyx]

There's two different 60mms.

Mortar and flak.

[remote kiln]

ohh I see

that's funny actually if only I had a competent teammate to try it

[next onyx]

Mortar I kinda don't mind the balancing because it's an absolute nuke, but it's extremely difficult.

[hidden sand]

the tow is shockingly good on tanks

[next onyx]

The velocity and drop don't do it much justice.

It's a tow missile so lol.

[hidden sand]

I mean yeah

[remote kiln]

canister shot unsurprisingly garbage for the third straight game in a row

[hidden sand]

Doesn't make it good in-game

So I was kinda surprised DICE actually made it handy for support

[remote kiln]

it was useful in 3 but no tank too op if it shoots you in the face with a shotgun nerf it

[next onyx]

Valentine AA canister shell was a lot of fun.

[hidden sand]

Tfw your vehicle balance post gets 16.5k views yet only 87 upvotes

I don't care about upvotes usually, but sadly that's the only way to get DICE to notice

Jokes aside, do wonder if they're actually planning to do anything about the poor balance

[hexed mango]

[dapper river]

People be like "the spawns in this game suck" my brother in christ YOU picked the respawn point

[hexed mango]

spawns on objectives do suck tho

cause 9/10 times they arent on the objective
but that's a completely different topic than the video

im annoyed with how broken sundance is
like, not damage or anything, but the fact that the grenade in hand says something different than the one on the HUD
and it pisses me off cause i will throw the wrong grenade even when the HUD says its the one i wanted

[uneven belfry]

everytime

there is a grenade 2km away and it still kills you

[wanton magnet]

Yeah gotta look at it before you throw it. It’s freaking annoying.

[hexed mango]

my camera had a stroke

[upbeat sand]

2042 maps with BOAT when

[hexed mango]

ikr

they need to fix it first tho

[upbeat sand]

let me do a super flank with BOAT on orbital

[upbeat sand]

just go from spawn to instantly C i think it is

[hexed mango]

ghost boat!

[upbeat sand]

poor mate

game might have problems

but its better than hunt down the freeman

and dosent have a 12 year old mic spamming infestation

[hexed mango]

that's me

and im driving but not in the boat

[upbeat sand]

Yeah I realised that since no one is driving while the sundance gets left behind

But still funny to make it look like they got left behind

[hexed mango]

WhatThuihturhsg

[hexed mango]

like my dad left me

[upbeat sand]

Cry some more

[hexed mango]

fr

currently punching my monitor

[upbeat sand]

I'm currently banging my keyboard to make it release all my dead skin and hair

[hexed mango]

sounds hot

[upbeat sand]

Bruh

[next onyx]

To be fair the spawn logic in this game is horrid.

You spawn right in front of enemies.

And or in front of their line of sight.

Yo updated falck.

[ebon pilot]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm idk

[upbeat sand]

Don't remind me of that

[arctic grove]

she doesnt look like a grama anymore

[upbeat sand]

Don't remind me og concept are falk

[arctic grove]

OG Concept Paik 😍

[next onyx]

Look at him.

Concept art angel.

Mackay too.

[upbeat sand]

Goatee of the century

[arctic grove]

The better looking angel

[upbeat sand]

All of these look better than what we have now

[arctic grove]

Mackay looks alot like jake gylinhall or whatever u spell his name

[upbeat sand]

Except angel's blocky shades

[arctic grove]

his blocky shades are aight. It passes

[upbeat sand]

He has a sonic boom scarf

[arctic grove]

tbh putting helmets on em would be nice too

[hexed mango]

i would like to reside in my grave after this

[ebon pilot]

I do like this one

[hexed mango]

massive nose

[arctic grove]

He is half Jewish

[hexed mango]

damn bro.

[arctic grove]

bruh

[hidden sand]

Looks a lot better.

[upbeat sand]

Don't doofiensmirtenz him

[hexed mango]

where this from

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/yiKh.gif

[violet drum]

whats up guys

[upbeat sand]

THthis guy turned makay into the doof

[violet drum]

bro what

[arctic grove]

LMAO nahh paik better

[upbeat sand]

this

[violet drum]

aight

[hexed mango]

@next onyx

[hidden sand]

This is alright, but I wish a helmet had replaced the cap.

His only helmet is kind of meh.

Something to point out here is that this means the changes are done.

I'm starting to wonder if the roadmap was placeholder dates.

It really made no sense why playermodel changes would take 3-4 months.

[hexed mango]

he has multiple

4 infact

plus his hat isnt that bad.

:)

[grizzled island]

The green helmet is my favorite

Really made him look like a future warfare soldier

[gleaming dawn]

I was wrong about being annoyed by bf2042 killing the server browser. I've been playing HLL and it's annoying to have to do the sort-by-ping dance and then keep refreshing when it comes back with a full game

So, sorry about complaining about that before.

[hexed mango]

personally i think server browser is ok for something like portal where it is completely dynamic, changing, and custom
but matchmaking would personally be smoother in aow without a browser, there is still stuff that needs to be cleaned up but eh

[copper fulcrum]

It's mostly a fuck HLL's server browser thing

[gleaming dawn]

Yeah, I thought about it and matchmaking is something that can totally be automated. You don't need a human to do it

[copper fulcrum]

HLL's server browser doesn't show the correct player count/queue size all the time. So it would say like 3 empty slots but there's actually a queue of 23

As if you didn't have to wait to get into combat enough, you have to wait to get onto the ground itself

[gleaming dawn]

yeah maybe that's what I'm noticing. I keep trying to get in to a server with 5 open slots but it's full by the time I click connect

But it got me thinking that you don't really need a human to make that choice, against what I've previously advocated for

[tepid agate]

Wow 2042 has dropped down to 5.8k players now 👀 needs season 2 fast

[hidden sand]

Wonder if they'll have a mid season content drop for Season 2.

[tepid agate]

It was like 3x as much last month at the season 1 launch

[fervent grotto]

Look at this guy. Your a funny guy pal

You a comedian or something?

[tepid agate]

It does need season 2

[fervent grotto]

I know

[tepid agate]

Ah you're the guy that's taught me about this "finna" meaning!! 😄 Legend!

[fervent grotto]

I’m just saying, idk if that’s gonna happen

Yes that was me

[tepid agate]

I wonder if it'll drop back down to BF4 level again before season 2 👀

I actually played bfV for the first time since the 2042 launch and no wonder it's the most played Battlefield it's like night and day

[fervent grotto]

BFV is amazing

Idk if it’s the most played

[tepid agate]

Damn right

[fervent grotto]

I feel like that would either be BF4 or BF3

[tepid agate]

18k on Steam

For conquest alone there were 58 servers only in my region

So good having to rely on team players being medics for health or support for bullets

[fervent grotto]

Huh

That’s weird

But I guess it makes sense

Yea I love the medics in BFV

That’s why it’s my most played

[tepid agate]

I forgot all about I could crawl backwards while aiming on my back lol they should have kept that for 2042

Yeah I am kinda tired with 2042. I'll do it on Thursdays for the tree system then keep bfV my main

[fervent grotto]

I’ve mostly been playing Apex and Cod recently. I have played a little of season 1 but not much, though I do plan to play to where I at least unlock the two new weapons.

I’m just waiting for MW2. I need something good and new to play

[tepid agate]

Hmm never played apex before. Last cod I played was the remastered COD4. Yeah you have 12 weeks to unlock everything so it should be pretty easy. Can do the tasks over a few matches

[copper fulcrum]

Apex is an okay BR

The movement is really the best thing about it, I'd play it more if it had a solo mode

[tepid agate]

I read some news yesterday that 2042 is changing the achievement with Liz to "kills and assists" because people complain other are stealing their kills lol

I was like, wth look what game you've created that people complain about that 😄 I think in past Battlefield games the team is happy with who ever get the kill as long as the teams doing good

[hexed mango]

from where

[tepid agate]

Twitter

[hexed mango]

and what?

[tepid agate]

I'll share 1 sec

[arctic grove]

'i think in past Battlefield games the team is happy who ever get the kill as long as the teams doing good' that is 100% false

[hexed mango]

yeah its a shooter, and people are selfish.

[copper fulcrum]

It's a shooting game, people always get mad at stolen kills

[hexed mango]

plus. Lis' T1 is extremely difficult, so that's just a shitty comment

@arctic grove u ok?

[copper fulcrum]

I remember a lot of Halo and CoD players get mad at their execution being taken

[fervent grotto]

Apex just wouldn’t work well in solos. Though I do agree I would play it more if there were solos

[hexed mango]

i get mad that melee is nonexistent in this game
[by that i mean it sucks]

[tepid agate]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1546492784315699201?t=V9Au9_lCuke1_nIj1-CfXA&s=19

[hexed mango]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/vwgfai/dice_can_you_please_change_lis_badge_from_destroy/ifpnmkm/?context=3

[fervent grotto]

Honestly you should try apex. It’s free so there’s really no downside

[hexed mango]

doesnt mean its gonna happen right away, but that its known, but good enough for me

[copper fulcrum]

Gav? More like Gavin

[hexed mango]

Gav? more like GVT 45-70

[copper fulcrum]

I've never met a guy named Gavin

[fervent grotto]

I have

[hexed mango]

really? i have

[tepid agate]

They created a game where people complain about other team member stealing kills lol it's team work

[fervent grotto]

He’s kind of a dush

[copper fulcrum]

douche?

[tepid agate]

Hmm I may give it a try if I can download it in the store. Got another week of lockdown here

[fervent grotto]

Yes that

[copper fulcrum]

lmao

[fervent grotto]

Idk how to spell bruh

[fervent grotto]

Oof

[copper fulcrum]

Dush means punch or the sound a punch makes

[fervent grotto]

I speak two languages. Stupid and extra stupid

[copper fulcrum]

I'm glad you can't steal melees like Halo and CoD

[fervent grotto]

Yes the gavin I know is a douche

[copper fulcrum]

Although I did have some teammates that tried firing at the person I'm taking down

[fervent grotto]

He smokes weed and thinks he’s really cool for it

[hexed mango]

well sure but nobody reasonably does a takedown unless under rare circumstances, and other than that actually meleeing is useless

[fervent grotto]

I thought Halo made it impossible to steal executions

[tepid agate]

In 2042 you take down the opponent literally if they are prone. Pick them up to stab them 😄 love bfV just turns them oflbwr and punches/headbutts them

[copper fulcrum]

Well, Infinite has none but the Halos that have it introduced medals called "Yoink" and "Yoinked" for stealing an assassination and another for getting it stolen

[fervent grotto]

I don’t think I’ve ever executed anyone in 2042 💀💀💀

[fervent grotto]

Damn

[tepid agate]

Not that easy in 2042 to be honest

[fervent grotto]

I just forgot it existed

[tepid agate]

I've destroyed more air vechiles with Liz rocket than take downs since 2042 launch

Miss the bf1 brutality for takedowns

[copper fulcrum]

BFV and BF1 have the same exact takedowns barring BFV's hand to hand shit

[hexed mango]

tbh im not 100% for the animations for melees
its ok but not practical in most cases
and tbh i'd rather just have the melee weapon itself more than the animation

[next onyx]

https://twitter.com/Flakfire/status/1547081350645178368?t=zQXRcZmwr-LIWftCdlh84Q&s=19

Flakfire (@Flakfire)

A new Artstation post showcases upcoming visual specialist changes. Boris looks majestic. Definitely better match the battle-hardened tone they want. https://t.co/UgMy3RaRrG #Battlefield2042

Twitter · Jul 13, 2022, 4:51 AM

[calm bison]

BFV had some cool melee kills when the victim was on their back

[tepid agate]

Ah I guess I'm more leaning with bf1 because it was the first I experienced lol

[next onyx]

I loved the one where you bang your head onto them.

[copper fulcrum]

"What's up guys, it's Flakfire and today I have overdosed on my prescribed medcation"

[next onyx]

Bf5 was made using early bf1 code so it makes a lot of sense why it looks so similar.

[hexed mango]

tbh for most i dont see a difference

[calm bison]

Sundance looks the exact same

But holy shit

[tepid agate]

So true

[calm bison]

Mackay, Angel, Falck, and Boris look way different

[hexed mango]

all i see is mackay's big ass face

[calm bison]

Falck is no longer old

[hexed mango]

tho boris looks nice as hell

[next onyx]

You can only see the difference side by side.

[tepid agate]

Why you gunna pick someone up from prone to trip them and stab them.... 2042

[hexed mango]

❤️

[copper fulcrum]

Sundance has hair covering their eye now? I think that's different?

[hexed mango]

clean ass hair cut

[next onyx]

Flakfire is good.

Genuinely the nicest guy.

[copper fulcrum]

You don't pick them up

The animation just happens

[tepid agate]

Oh I though they get picked up lol

Wow just teleport up to the animation

[hexed mango]

Penwings

[copper fulcrum]

Take out the Battlefield 2042 logo and it looks like just a documentary

[tepid agate]

Yeah the Devs said they understand the specialists break the battlefield immersion, so to start fixing this they will change their voices, appearance and running

[hexed mango]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/3qZKOo
even tho everyone knows this, this is also a new album

[hidden sand]

These are really good changes.

Boris' outfit looks a lot less awkward now.

[hexed mango]

and i dontt think this guy is official, but they have a bunch of pictures of modified portal gun models

[copper fulcrum]

Doesn't matter, gonna put the Mandalorian mask on him

[tepid agate]

More skins for their scheme 🤑

[copper fulcrum]

They're the base skins lol

[hexed mango]

🤡

[tepid agate]

🙃

[arctic grove]

honestly those look super good

just the 2042ified theme i was thinking about

[copper fulcrum]

The music for Exposure is nice

[hexed mango]

they're not super different from portal ones tho
but neat

[arctic grove]

that m16 has a really weird GL or something right up on the handguard though

[hexed mango]

ye

[arctic grove]

how long has it been since you actually played this game

[hexed mango]

420.69 hours of no bitches

[hexed mango]

yes

and

[copper fulcrum]

Callus

[hexed mango]

joe

[next onyx]

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/051/334/040/4k/geoffroy-calis-bf2042-geoffroycalis-frontend-03.jpg?1657036888

Yo she isn't having an allergic reaction.

[tepid agate]

I played this last Thursday

[copper fulcrum]

Her face was already fine

[tepid agate]

Thursday's are my only 2042 days

[copper fulcrum]

I put in like 5-7 matches or so each day

[tepid agate]

After I tried bfV last night, I'll be doing 5-10 matches on that a day lol

[next onyx]

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/051/334/080/4k/geoffroy-calis-bf2042-geoffroycalis-frontend-10.jpg?1657036958

[hexed mango]

its like the only game i play

[tepid agate]

Maybe try get to level 500 😄

[next onyx]

He's not so clean anymore.

[hexed mango]

48%

[next onyx]

I've never really cared about Dozer cause he really doesn't have much use but I like his current look.

Not that it's changed as significantly.

[hexed mango]

no but its better

[tepid agate]

Yeah exposure really helped change the opinions

[hexed mango]

i just hope august update fixes sundance

[tepid agate]

Player numbers are falling though. Need that Kaleidoscope rework fast or season 2

[arctic grove]

i can assure u 2042 is at a sustainable playerbase even headed towards the end of season 1

so there isnt any need to rush anything

[hexed mango]

its atleast better than before s1

[tepid agate]

Season 1 it had 3x as many players

[next onyx]

The game needs more content.

[tepid agate]

Only last month

[hexed mango]

the low point here is what the high before s1 was

[next onyx]

If they added more portal maps that'd help too.

[hexed mango]

nah

tbh

[tepid agate]

Yes but we are not far I to season 1 only halfway

[hexed mango]

El Alamein suck

[next onyx]

Actual good maps not 1942 maps.

[hexed mango]

they obviously probably wouldnt add that tho

[tepid agate]

That snow map is ok

[next onyx]

One map I'd love to see would be Seine crossing.

[arctic grove]

well to be fair season 1 was the first actual content in the game half a year after its release; theres going to be a lot more people that just hop on to see how it runs/whats new then hop off anyways , season 1 has set in by now and even if its half its still sustainable

[hexed mango]

true but same for the weapons, it would be lazy just to add them like exodus does
like yeah cool and whatever but i'd rather have more of exposure

[next onyx]

Interesting.

The things I hope we get to expand weapon choices is a Bf4 era heavy barrel for automatics.

[tepid agate]

Let's see if it goes back the the BF4 numbers before season 2 arrives.

[next onyx]

Increasing vertical recoil, Increasing velocity and weapon accuracy.

[slim quiver]

Soon I’ll get an updated paik model that isn’t just a textural update

[next onyx]

But BFH heavy barrel was superior and made perfect sense.

Decreased recoil by a tiny amount, Increased accuracy and decreased movement speed by a bit.

[arctic grove]

even if it doesnt the game is still sustaining an actual playerbase, who cares about the last games in comparison

[hexed mango]

and tbh i'd rather they fix the current maps than just give us more maps, although new maps is always nice, if we still have the old maps it'll suck

[next onyx]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/6/6a/Seine_Crossing_-_Overview.png/revision/latest?cb=20160416141224

Yeah Fix the current maps for sure.

I just wish we knew ripple were working on the remasters.

[hexed mango]

and more than just kale and renewal
hourglass needs a complete rework, and the glacier on breakaway needs a fix

[tepid agate]

Surely they will add a naval update then they can bring back that stormy BF4 map

[arctic grove]

that map was pretty cool

[hexed mango]

discarded could use some touchups and same with orbital

[tepid agate]

Because sustainable games shouldn't drop significantly lower than non live service titles from many many years ago

[next onyx]

Huh.

[hexed mango]

uh

lmao

[next onyx]

It's kinda funny because rotterdam uses its real life layout so you kinda don't think that.

But I can imagine hey what's urban like Seine Crossing?

[tepid agate]

I remember water was always green when I swam under lol

[next onyx]

Oh that's right, What about when Germany bombed the shit out of rotterdam?

[tepid agate]

Devastation

[next onyx]

And it kinda fit the ww2 theme.

[arctic grove]

1 platform =/= entire playerbase

[next onyx]

Devastation is still in rotterdam but it's towards the city centre.

[hexed mango]

lmao i just searched up songdo to compare from real life and i saw statues of naked people that are foutains
wtf

{apparently which are actually in the park}

[next onyx]

Same region but different map.

[tepid agate]

I never said that lol I'm pretty aware steam doesn't represent a lot but it's the only data we have to run by to give some understanding

[arctic grove]

its the only data youre using to assume how well the game is doing in general

[copper fulcrum]

Did people not connect the two?

[next onyx]

LOLWHAT. RU's Transport car could actually float on water.

[hexed mango]

idk why this map is so dead with plants, but kale real life

[tepid agate]

Pleas estate another data base I can use and I'll look at that too

[arctic grove]

none, just be mindful what youre saying using what you do have

[tepid agate]

When I go to portal for 2042 I'll see 1, or 2 if I'm lucky full servers

When I search only my region for bfV there's atleast 15 full servers

[round vault]

now turn off blue tint and look at trees

[fiery dawn]

wtf is kale

kale is gross

worst vegetable 0/10

[arctic grove]

kale glows up in 2042 confirmed

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind a remake of rotterdam and devastation together.

Link the two together for 128p. For 64p have it rotate between the two layouts.

[tepid agate]

Loved when the alarms rang and bombs came down in devastation

[next onyx]

Those flares were BRIGHT.

Genuinely the brightest damn thing in the game.

[hexed mango]

oh damn they're real!

hide

[arctic grove]

most people playing 2042 arent playing portal kek

[tepid agate]

DBZ solar flare 😄

[next onyx]

I would have loved it if they made on 5 if that if you shot a tank with a flare. The tank would be brightly marked for planes.

[tepid agate]

I use that example because that's the only way 2042 can search for servers

[next onyx]

Cause well... Flares are used for bombers of course.

[rough wigeon]

i wish portal was a standalone thing

[upbeat sand]

hopefully since they did update the portal vehicles

[tepid agate]

Flares were pretty bright in BF4 also. Especially in locker

[next onyx]

Yeah they did make the vehicles but we have no idea what they're really doing.

[hexed mango]

this is a model for a future waterpark in real songdo, would be cool if this was in some form ingame aswell :)

[hexed mango]

there's also this one

[rough wigeon]

looks like a decent breakthrough map :)))

[arctic grove]

nope too pretty

[tepid agate]

Hope it's destruction lol

[arctic grove]

nah jk

[hexed mango]

(this is a birds eye view rendering)
but i wish the ingame map had the same layout

[upbeat sand]

kid pushes his brother into the ocean and drowns

[tepid agate]

I'm waiting for this 2042 story mode to continue about world on edge what's Irish gunna do

[hexed mango]

the middle part is the one ingame

but that section on the far right looks like a neat addition

[rough wigeon]

about that

what tf is bf's story rn

[arctic grove]

death

[hexed mango]

and i think i know what render the 2042 team used

[tepid agate]

They was on that ship and his mate sacrificed himself for that kid

[rough wigeon]

wasnt it supossed to evolve with seasons n stuff

[tepid agate]

Irish is the main guy

[rough wigeon]

poor pac died for this game

[arctic grove]

canonically it seems that in the BF4 campaign recker hands Hanna the C4

[tepid agate]

I haven't heard when it'll continue

[last swift]

Hmmm.. 🤔

[hidden sand]

Always figured it was trying to be the Amiens of BFV.

[rough wigeon]

i mean does irish have any scars in 2042?

[fiery dawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679107519746146305/996660391121793064/IMG_2051.png

is this a coincidence

[hexed mango]

maybe, not really

[fiery dawn]

Never noticed that before lol

[tepid agate]

bfV have the same style in the loading screen

Right I'm out. bfV time 🍻

[arctic grove]

oh wow lol exact same pose

[arctic grove]

i think so https://www.artstation.com/artwork/YK4A1X

[next onyx]

It was weird playing the bf5 beta cause you can see the bf1 influence.

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, how many covers of things have person standing with guns?

[next onyx]

Just in the hud.