battlefield-2042

[shy latch]

higher level ≠ skill

for unknown reasons some people like to farm XPs and have higher level

next will be Moonsinger ||👀||

[arctic grove]

I search a Team to Play togerher im from Germany you can add me in Playstation "Schla winski"

[still vault]

Like them but improved in what they are meant to accomplish ofc.

[obsidian elk]

So they made a Reality mod for BF3, after making one for BF2

this means BF4 is next.... 🤔

which also means....

eventually...

those modders will reach 2042

for a 2042 Project Reality mod

O_O

[honest comet]

makes sense haha

[warm crater]

reality mod will reach in 2042

[honest comet]

in that reality does a heli take 4 hits from launcher to be taken down? lol

[warm crater]

Is flak even out of style now

[honest comet]

i think flaks still used

its effective method

but they are self propeled now

like italian draco

also mostly its sams that are bein used

flaks basicly force enemy to bombard from higher altitude

which is more unprecise

@warm crater

[warm crater]

thx

[stoic ferry]

the nerf on borris sentry is real 😄

2 bullets to kill it

[bronze steeple]

Was needed anoying specialist laying behind it with pkp camper specialist

[signal trout]

hey DICE

can we have vehicle mounted weaponized laser cannons

and artilerry trucks

and weapon emplacements

and railguns

and snowmobiles

and can we finally have the panhard crab

[bronze steeple]

Shutup

[signal trout]

its a thing in real life being researched by the US military

i thought this was supposed to be a futuristic game

i was expecting a bigger badder final stand and i got a downgraded BF4

[bronze steeple]

2042 is in 20years from now its not 3042

[nimble hornet]

@signal trout Who knows, some of that might actually be implemented in the game.

[tawdry violet]

Where is the #help channel

[signal trout]

its a thing in real life being researched by the US military

[bronze steeple]

Laser guns not going to make the game better imo

[signal trout]

well shit i dont think its about that is it

im hoping they add the panhard in season 2

its been rotting in the game files for too long

[calm bison]

Considering that BF4 literally has a final stand DLC and the very existence of 2042 confirms it as canon

It makes sense to have some experimental tech here and there

[next onyx]

Sorta? The American assault never happened but it sure as hell exists.

[signal trout]

listen im just gonna direct you to what i said earlier

[next onyx]

The closest we got was a handheld railgun.

[signal trout]

this

see this is all the technology final stand had in 2020

[next onyx]

And that's still pretty experimental. They probably even scrapped it when they needed something with more power.

[signal trout]

because thats when the game takes place

and we are in 2042

the only futuristic things we have is what

homing grenades

[calm bison]

Rangers

[signal trout]

specialist exclusive by the way

also yeah rangers

[next onyx]

The Titans as far as we know were only operational in the 2100's.

[nimble hornet]

Didn't bf4 have a laser pulse rifle? Would make sense to have it in 2042 right 🤔

[signal trout]

no it did not

[next onyx]

They would have to had worked out a lot of shit to get them merely operational.

[signal trout]

final stand had a break action railgun

dude i just find it fucking unfair

because in the canon in the timeline

they have all this technology

[calm bison]

I wouldn’t mind the RAWR making a return to BF2042

[signal trout]

so the natural thing would be to utilize that into the modern military

[burnt swan]

Simple answer

[signal trout]

over the years

[burnt swan]

Dice is lazy

[solar tinsel]

I always thought it'd be awesome to see some early prototype versions of 2142 weapons or something

[nimble hornet]

Oh yes the RAWR, I forgot about that.

[next onyx]

RU had a shittone of kinks to work out with their tech, Hell their walkers were not operational.

[calm bison]

Yeah

[burnt swan]

final stand had hover tanks

[signal trout]

see when i was expecting bf2042 i was expecting a bigger badder version of final stand

[burnt swan]

which was before 2042

[calm bison]

Russia in Final Stand had literal titans from titanfall

[next onyx]

Yeah they did, Even though in the current world state it'd be much, much cheaper to use t90's/28's.

[calm bison]

But they’re using T-60s in modern combat

[next onyx]

I have no idea what tanks are being used these days.

[signal trout]

dude they had gundrones and attachements that spotted people infront of you and we dont have that in bf2042

hell we dont have emplacements

we had decoys

[calm bison]

Yeah why don’t we have decoys

[signal trout]

and that one anti air shotgun emplacement

it was so great

i miss it so much

[calm bison]

The AA mine

[signal trout]

oh yeah we had an AA mine lmfao

[obsidian elk]

Excuse me, they're still using t-60's?

That's like if the US was still using Shermans...

[signal trout]

we also had people pod launchers

[calm bison]

Russia is still using T-60s in the war against Ukraine

[signal trout]

we had so much semi-futuristic shit in BF4FS in 2020
and we dont see that incorporated in any sort of variant or any way at all in 2042

i mean what the shit

why isnt it here

[next onyx]

KEK they're still using the t60 that is sad.

[obsidian elk]

Modern weaponry is designed to defeat modern armor, and vice versa. A t-60 vs. a Javelin would just crumple into dust.

Javelins already wreck tanks pretty hard because the top is never heavily armored, but it still at least leaves a husk, or heavy damage. A T-60 would just disappear. Evaporate.

[calm bison]

Although I’m not entirely sure

Online sources seem to bounce around

[obsidian elk]

Live service baybeeeeeee

soon

[signal trout]

dude you know how DICE can make this game sell

sell like fucking properly

they oughta put BF2142 into portal

people will gulp that shit

[stoic ferry]

so many nice videos on twitter of t60 and 70s blown up with javs and other fun stuff

[signal trout]

because its going to be awesome

[obsidian elk]

Soon ™️

[signal trout]

hey that reminds me

did DICE ever state if they wanna add more battlefield games to portal or not

[calm bison]

Still no tractors in 2042

[obsidian elk]

Javelin on T-60 is honestly overkill

A fucking Panzerfaust on the sides will screw with a T-60

on the back it'll outright destroy it

[calm bison]

There are rumors circulating online that Russia is employing some felons to Ukraine

[stoic ferry]

they dont just use javs. even M72 that norway sent will work

[calm bison]

Although it’s being shot down because there’s like 4 in the world

Pun not intended

[stoic ferry]

love the videos of Hinds beeing shoot down. looks awsome

[calm bison]

Any gators?

[stoic ferry]

yes

[calm bison]

Hell yeah

[obsidian elk]

The RPG is supposed to be an evolution of the Panzerfaust.

RPG vs T-60 = welcome to 2022 bitch

[stoic ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5GoePlcsLg

[little lagoon]

So we ever gonna get the ability to change squads? Lol

[stoic ferry]

this is a nice one

[calm bison]

RPG is literally panzerfaust on steroids

[signal trout]

man i wish they would add BF2142 and BFH to portal

[calm bison]

And it doesn’t burn your hand when you shoot it

[signal trout]

those were the most unique battlefield games

[next onyx]

Oh yeah isn't there that modern panzerfaust variant.

[calm bison]

We need more Rocket Launchers in AOW

[signal trout]

they deserve a place in portal

[calm bison]

I’m sick of the Gustav

[next onyx]

Panzerfaust 3 that's it.

[calm bison]

What’s the second version

[signal trout]

also guys i dunno if you noticed but the RPGLs in portal are indefinetly better to the ones in the vanilla game

[calm bison]

The one in vanguard?

Where you can reload it?

[nimble hornet]

Why doesn't 2042 have CLAYMORES?🤔 stop alot of flanks imo

[signal trout]

why doesnt battlefield 2042 have HALF of what other battlefield games had up to this point

[obsidian elk]

That's probably the point

[signal trout]

thats the question

[fossil trench]

We need AP mines

[signal trout]

we do

[next onyx]

Uhhhh not 100% sure Maverick.

[obsidian elk]

If I recall correctly, the Bolte can be equipped with anti-infantry mines

[fossil trench]

Like if you’re gonna add a new gadget, add claymores or some AP mine

[solar tinsel]

more gadgets, and gadget class-restrictions I think would go a real long way to putting the game where it needs to be

[next onyx]

First variant you had to throw away, Second one you could reload and I guess that makes sense then.

[calm bison]

We need bouncing betties in 2042

[next onyx]

God no more claymores.

No indirect fire that shit is annoying.

[nimble hornet]

I want claymores for them flanks. Lol yes we need them 😂

[signal trout]

dude bf2042 is lacking in so much content compared to bf4 that i legit wanna cry

[fossil trench]

People who hate claymores are just the ones dumb enough to walk in front of them /s

[solar tinsel]

a nice alternative could be something like a claymore but when triggered, it only spots the enemy and EMPs them or something for a bit

[foggy halo]

Simp pray to ea

[signal trout]

its like DOOM 2 released with less guns and monsters and maps than DOOM

[obsidian elk]

I'm pretty sure the exclusion of a common method of anti-infantry mining is due to the fact that it would absolutely suck to watch every step as infantry in a fast-paced game like Battlefield

[calm bison]

Can we get more than one jet type in AOW?

[solar tinsel]

oh I wish, plus jets need their own spawn pool

[calm bison]

Like it shouldn’t be this hard

[solar tinsel]

just 1 per team, but at least each team would have 1 jet

[nimble hornet]

That's it you drop a 100bomb and unlocks the nuke 😂

[obsidian elk]

BF4 had more time for all its expansions and DLC's especially because it didn't release in a state as shit as 2042 did

Again, give it time, the game will have plenty of additional content, some of it free, some of it paid

[stoic ferry]

also this Mi-24 shoot down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVaATkgRe0k

[next onyx]

Yeah the Panzerfaust 150 was the first reloadable panzerfaust.

[calm bison]

Bring the SU-35 and F/A-18 over to AoW, create T4 and T1 skins, and then allow players to put paint jobs and emblems on them

[signal trout]

alright ill wait, were 56 days away from the end of season 1, but does that mean season 2 is going to come directly after it? i wanna know

[calm bison]

Like how badass would that be

[solar tinsel]

Most likely, yes

[fossil trench]

We don’t need more jets 💀

[still vault]

A game with what... 8 expansion packs.. have more content than 2042? 😮 shocker

[calm bison]

We need more jets

[obsidian elk]

Blasphemy.

[calm bison]

They’re useless as shit in 2042

[solar tinsel]

We need 1 jet per team, 100% haha

[fossil trench]

Already useless as they are

[calm bison]

Both the F35 and SU-57

[signal trout]

at this point i mean the base game itsefl

[obsidian elk]

That guy's gonna eat his words when 2042 gets its 10th expansion tbh

[calm bison]

Having actually fighter jets in 2042 would be so fun and cool

If only we could get the A10s flight model for these planes

[obsidian elk]

Man's, those are fighting words.

[solar tinsel]

In all fairness, Battlefield 2 in 2005 had more new content at the same rate of release compared to 2042 😆

[wide violet]

if 2042 gets ten expansions BF franchise is dead lol

[fossil trench]

A10 a fighter jet

BF logic

[calm bison]

My dude

[obsidian elk]

A10 is a ground strike and ground support craft.

[foggy halo]

A game that released in 2021 has less content than a game that was released in 2013, shocks 😲😲😱

[calm bison]

The A10 in portal has the 313 method form BF4

[fossil trench]

Exactly

[calm bison]

And it actually flies like a decent plane

I’m not referring to the A10 becoming a fighter

That’s stupid

[signal trout]

brb gonna go take a shit

[calm bison]

When I say fighter im referring to the hornet and flanker

[warm crater]

fuck dice bro

[calm bison]

Get in line

[wide violet]

fuck EA

[foggy halo]

Why so rude

[warm crater]

IT WONT LET ME DO HORIZONTAL PLANE CONTROLS

[solar tinsel]

but even if 2042 launched fine, we'd be in what: Season 3 of 2042 if S1 came out shortly after launch? That would mean 3 new maps.

Battlefield 2 had several more maps by that point with SF release, so clearly the plan was always to have 2042 trickle less content over time, albeit free with the seasons

[nimble hornet]

@warm crater only if you take them out to eat 😂

[warm crater]

THE GAME IS SO FUCKING BUGGED YOU CANT EVEN EDIT MAPPINGS

[solar tinsel]

That said, 2042 is in a much better place since launch - just wish it had a healthy content stream from the beginning

[fossil trench]

Anyone else getting a ADS bug? Sometimes the ADS button doesn’t work at all

[warm crater]

THERES NO INVERT HORIZONTAL BUTTON

[tawdry violet]

Hey can someone help me?

[calm bison]

The content stream is arguably the most important thing here

[still vault]

Stop with the YELLING

[calm bison]

The game actually works now

[nimble hornet]

@tawdry violet with?

[calm bison]

We just have nothing new

[solar tinsel]

you can edit mappings, but yes, I don't think horizontal axis can be inverted

[little lagoon]

https://twitter.com/ProteusRidley/status/1546871328711507968?t=9O5cnMqpJzkMAbKiEOn5ow&s=19

Wth is this skin

[warm crater]

like who the fuck was in charge of controls

[warm crater]

On controller I know

but whenever you try to edit roll left or roll right it will always remain the same

[calm bison]

It’s a skin for Paik?

[warm crater]

no matter what

[calm bison]

It’s actually realistic

[little lagoon]

I don't see it anywhere though

[solar tinsel]

right, yeah the stick is bound as is

[calm bison]

It was a weekly reward

[little lagoon]

Like in my customization or shop

Ooo

[foggy halo]

Should ask him to bring the money back!

[little lagoon]

Okay thanks

[next onyx]

Oh dear inverted X?

[fossil trench]

Using keyboard to fly must be challenging

[solar tinsel]

haha thats my reaction

[little lagoon]

It's ugly

[next onyx]

The most I do is inverted Y.

[calm bison]

I can’t imagine flying with a keyboard

[next onyx]

But damn you're dedicated to do inverted X.

[warm crater]

they only give invert vertical controls

[bronze steeple]

Bang your wife

[calm bison]

Like how

[warm crater]

like why not just do it all

like wtf dice

[calm bison]

I have respect to war Thunder pilots because yeah

But flying in Bf on a keyboard sounds impossible

[solar tinsel]

I guess they likely assumed not many people would use that, but hey maybe you can post a feature request on the forums or something

[calm bison]

From a console standpoint

[tawdry violet]

@nimble hornet hi! Since the most recent updates for 2042 my Xbox controller doesn't work correctly

[warm crater]

the controls are based on gta 5

[wide violet]

how dare you assume I have a wife

[warm crater]

I’m pretty sure a lot of people use it

[obsidian elk]

Casper bundle in 2 days

[bronze steeple]

[solar tinsel]

GTA 5 has inverted X by default?

[warm crater]

Not really

[calm bison]

When do we get F-15s back in Battlefield

[fossil trench]

Do you use WASD?

[foggy halo]

Console talk

[warm crater]

When I pull up the joystick the plane goes up

[foggy halo]

🤔

[calm bison]

I use the left and right joysticks

[warm crater]

if it goes down it’s down

[wide violet]

me and my harem are disrespected by your presumptuous accusations

[nimble hornet]

They should being in exp boosters, miss them and still have a butt load of them on bf4 lol

[fossil trench]

Oh I’m talking about PC

[solar tinsel]

you can do that in BF2042 as well

[next onyx]

Would love if they dropped some.

[warm crater]

when I put the joystick to the right it tilts to the right

[foggy halo]

PC MASTER RACE

[warm crater]

but not for horizontal

[wide violet]

hell yeah brother

[calm bison]

Oh I use WASD when I play on PC

[warm crater]

they thought it would be funny to keep left and right inverted

[wide violet]

I use the arrow keys on the numpad

[still vault]

Not really any fair way to compare the two. Lots of weapons is pointless if the balance is bad which it was in BF2, most people just used the same 4 weapons. Maps in 2042 is a lot bigger so if you measure how much map you got you probably have a lot more in 2042 compared to many of the other titles.

[fossil trench]

How do you play not inverted?

[foggy halo]

PC players > Consoles players

[fossil trench]

No platform wars

[still vault]

Battlelog and the community building systems is the biggest difference imo. Battlelog came from BF3 though.

[little lagoon]

I keep getting kicked out when trying to exodus conquest ps5. Anyone else having issues atm?

[solar tinsel]

I suppose you're right about the maps being bigger, but I also think that BF2 had more variety of combat experiences

[foggy halo]

The fact that they are bigger doesn’t matter if they are shit

[nimble hornet]

I can't fly anything to save my life, so I just run and gun like a chicken with its head cut off lol

Props to those that can fly 🤟

[solar tinsel]

Heck, in 2042 there are not even any per-map vehicle restrictions in Conquest like there was in BF2

[still vault]

We were not talking quality of content, just size/amount.

[signal trout]

man you know whats funny

even hardline and 2142 had commander

2042 doesnt

[foggy halo]

So bigger size means less quality? How that helps your argument?

[still vault]

You don't have to sell me on the idea that BF2 has a lot of great things about it 🙂

[solar tinsel]

haha fair enough

minus the weapon accuracy of course

[fossil trench]

When is the Kaleidoscope map remake coming?

[still vault]

Again, didn't make any arguments about quality. So doesn't help or subtract I suppose.

[solar tinsel]

Allegedly sometime in S1. Maybe in Aug, as that would be halfway through S1. Fingers crossed

[stoic ferry]

when is the more accurate representation of ruzzia coming ?

[solar tinsel]

There is an August patch coming, so.... we can only hope

[signal trout]

man remember when hourglass had more than just one city district

[solar tinsel]

Wasn't the Portal weapon integration to AoW slotted for S1 too? Or was that later?

If they can do Kalediscope 2.0 and Portal weapons as a mid season update, S1 will be in great shape

[signal trout]

man i wonder when they are adding battle pickups and anti air stations back

[foggy halo]

Omg man. You made the argument that one shouldn’t compare between previous battlefield to this because the maps are bigger compared to the previous battlefields, so more content, so I replied that the content is shit and doesn’t matter.

[solar tinsel]

I feel like if the Mobile AA was a dedicated spawn slot, had reduced range but a large power buff, that could solve the need for AA stations

[digital portal]

Anti air stations, you mean Cram back in Bf4?

[signal trout]

the stations that appeared at the spawns in BF4

when you spotted a helicopter it targeted them automatically

[digital portal]

Ye that one

[signal trout]

yeah

[stoic ferry]

ruzzia equipment should break down from time to time. and get rid of the T28, they should be add T72 to better represent the modern day ruzzia

[digital portal]

That would be nice feature

[signal trout]

why didnt they bring it back

why didnt they bring anything back

honestly

[digital portal]

T28 looks kinda ugly but

[signal trout]

im crying rn

[digital portal]

2042 is 2042

Once a S$$$ always a S$$$

[charred stag]

Maybe they wanted to try new stuff and leave old stuff behind

[stoic ferry]

ruzzia in 2042 will still use whats left of their T72s

[honest comet]

impossible...😱😱

[signal trout]

they also removed the test range

[digital portal]

Ike

And my M16

[solar tinsel]

Someone made a good point and I think they tried to remake the wheel on modern BF and in the process (and the turmoil that took place with its identity crisis) they never got to truly finish that work

[digital portal]

Only virgins like Short barreled Tacticool rifles

Real chad uses Long barreled gun

[honest comet]

only virgins like shotguns lol

[stoic ferry]

anyone t1 with lizz yet ?

[still vault]

I made the argument that if you consider square meters instead of map amount you probably didn't get any less map content in 2042 compared to previous titles. You are free to feel the 2042 maps are crap all you like, I've heard people say that about every release and when the next Battlefield arrives I expect the people that like 2042 to complain about the maps in the new one isn't as good as 2042.

[digital portal]

M16>M4

No doubt

[honest comet]

lol nope

[signal trout]

man i feel sad for uninstalling bfh

[digital portal]

Why tho

[honest comet]

m4 is more reliable

m16 had tons of issues

[digital portal]

You cant shoot with that smol barrel

[nimble hornet]

Bring in AA turrets for the air guys, bring in CLAYMORES for the flankers, bring in RC C5 drones for the vehicles and bring in exp boosters🤟

[digital portal]

Vietnam era propaganda

M16s are great

[foggy halo]

If the maps are crap (which is a consensus btw) they invested less effort aka less time and money on that, than they invested in good maps, therefore less content…

[honest comet]

dude whatever m16 can do, m4 can do same but better

[digital portal]

Nah

[honest comet]

yep

thats facts

[digital portal]

Bicc barrel-bicc accuracy

[solar tinsel]

in all fairness though, BF2 did have some large maps ha

[digital portal]

Thats why marines used that Right before HK416

[solar tinsel]

It's hard to say with the fog of war it had, but some might have been larger. Difficult to say with time, graphics, speed of vehicles, etc.

[digital portal]

Reliable and accurate also lookin cool

[solar tinsel]

I mean Ill be honest I really just want more BF2 maps remade in Frostbite haha

[signal trout]

gonna replay bf4 rn ngl

[fossil trench]

I really want the winter map

With all the houses

I forgot what it’s called

[solar tinsel]

you talking BC2?

[fossil trench]

Mhm

[solar tinsel]

ah I meant Battlefield 2

but I know what you're talking about

[fossil trench]

Oh nevermind then

[solar tinsel]

I forgot the name myself

[foggy halo]

You can make a big open field, by square meters it will be more but by effort the difference is huge…

[solar tinsel]

White pass?

[fossil trench]

Might be

[still vault]

The consensus is always the negative one. Battlefield is too old a franchise to not be like that. People rarely go on social media to say that they really like maps and franchise fans who have 20 years of Battlefield maps (and probably some favorites) to compare to and then they will say they like those better.

[fossil trench]

Idk

[solar tinsel]

Ha after playing X maps of so many BF games, it's easy to forget a bunch - minus the absolute standouts

[foggy halo]

Dude less people play this game, than bfv in 2018, it’s a proof that the content is shit…

[solar tinsel]

I would so be down for a 12 part series of like, the history of BF maps. There is such a rich history there, from the good to the bad to the ugly

[foggy halo]

You can’t argue with numbers

[still vault]

Ofc. you can argue with numbers 😄

wtf is even that

[signal trout]

dude

bf4 had working trains

wtf

on more than just 1 map

[foggy halo]

What do you have to say against that? Ofc you have an answer

You have nothing smart left to say, I get it man

We all have been there

[solar tinsel]

I know this goes back to the point I made with BF2 vs 2042. My point is, map size aside - BF2 was able to provide a large variety of map experiences in a shorter time span

[foggy halo]

You just trying to keep dodging without actually saying anything to back up your argument

[still vault]

The games are very different. Why would different games have the same sized markets? What if the markets have changed? Does a game luckily hit a trend? Which had the best marketing? Have 1 of the games been given out for practically free and is currently free on Gamepass etc. etc.?
Plenty of ways too look at numbers.

[foggy halo]

And so how do you look at numbers to prove your argument?

[still vault]

Plenty of fun to be had in BFV though so good for those of us still playing it

[foggy halo]

You see, you have nothing left to say lol

You can go around and around the point, I will move you back to it

[still vault]

I didn't make any statements about a game being better than another so I don't really need numbers.

simple.

[solar tinsel]

Maybe on the subject of legacy maps though - I think the biggest let down is why the Ripple Effect team has not been cranking out more legacy maps for 2042. It seems like we won't ever get any more legacy content which is a real bummer. So much for the love letter.....

Unless of course we get a Season theme based off of legacy stuff, like the Legacy Operations BF4 DLC

[foggy halo]

You said that this game has more content, I said it’s actually less because the content is shit (therefore less effort) and the numbers prove that

[still vault]

No, again I said in square meters it probably has more. If you want to quote me at least do it correctly.

[foggy halo]

You didn’t say why you think it’s just an opinion and not a fact that the content is shit, as shown by the numbers

[solar tinsel]

Well, I would argue square meter measurements do not define content haha

[calm bison]

Fuck dragon pass, all my homies hate dragon pass

[foggy halo]

He doesn’t fucking understand this holy shit man

Shit having arguments in mobile us so cursed

[still vault]

Sure it is content. It's a single datapoint out of a myriad of datapoints in which you can measure the amount of content. That there are many other ways does not really invalidate this one.

[calm bison]

Are we nitpicking

[solar tinsel]

I meant content in the playable sense not in the metrics sense

[calm bison]

Like very detailed nitpicking

[foggy halo]

Has more therefore it’s as good as previous battlefields, that’s what you said

Which is none sense as I’ve explained to youv1000 times

[still vault]

No. The "therefore its as good" part you made up all by yourself.

[foggy halo]

So therefore they put the same effort

[solar tinsel]

Does a FPS with one gun and an empty 500km square map have more 'content' than a more traditional FPS? When I mentioned content, I meant meaningful unique content players can interact with, not simple a measurement of space

[foggy halo]

That’s what you meant

[solar tinsel]

Its like saying a 6 hour long video of nonstop black frames has more content than a 45min TV show because the file runtime is longer

[foggy halo]

U told him he shouldn’t compare the games because of that

[charred stag]

Content is not the same as map size

[mental delta]

You guys are talking about content in BF2042 while I don't see any of it

[foggy halo]

I’m done here you have got nothing left to say man, that’s ok

[solar tinsel]

Well technically I was saying BF2 (2005) had more content and a faster content release cadence than 2042

[foggy halo]

I’ve explained myself 1000000 times

[mental delta]

I never played it but I would not be surprised if it had more content than BF2042

[charred stag]

BF2 was hard as shite from what I remember

[mental delta]

Let's just hope BF6 has more content than this one

[charred stag]

Two shots from an AR killed me

[royal trail]

bf2 best bf

[mental delta]

You mean BF3 probably

[royal trail]

na

[charred stag]

BF3 fans would like to know your location

[mental delta]

Ho yes trust me you meant BF3

[solar tinsel]

5 months after release, it released it's first [paid] expansion (Special Forces) with 8 new maps, a few new factions, some new weapons gadgets vehicles

[royal trail]

never

[mental delta]

It looks dope, after 8 months of BF2042 the best they can do is 1 weapon, 2 gadgets and 1 map

[solar tinsel]

yeah, and part of that was salvaging the game, but even if it launched ok with S1 starting right away

I think we'd be in what.... Season 3 now?

So that be ~3 new maps, ~6 new weapons, etc.

[charred stag]

I think the reason we don't get that much content is because most of the focus is on battle passes,seasons,skins etc

[mental delta]

I hope season 2 will have more weapons and an interesting map but I hardly doubt it

[still vault]

And sadly most servers playing the maps went away rather quickly due to lots of players not buying the expansion 😦 (Was a cool expansion though.)

[solar tinsel]

yeah - I generally do like the approach now of making GAME content like maps free, for that reason

maps/modes

[solar tinsel]

I think we'll see what we got in S1 repeated 3 more times. Nothing indicates to me it would be any more, of course except from the 2.0 map reworks and Portal weapons being added to AoW

[solar tinsel]

and yeah, probably

[stoic ferry]

hivemind tag is hard now :/

[solar tinsel]

Plus even though BF2 had like a soundtrack of 4 songs, it sure slapped haha

I lost my shit when they did such a good job with the Dragon Valley remake music

[mental delta]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking, I don't see why we would get more content than in season 1, it could even be less considering we waited 8 months for season 1 and that season 2 will arrive earlier

[solar tinsel]

nah I don't think well get less for what its worth

S2 has likely been worked on for a while now

its probably mostly done

theyre probably working on S3/S4 content by this point

and the rework stuff

[mental delta]

I'm still disappointed though, before launch they said the game battlepass would bring the most important amount of content we had ever seen in a BF game lol

[solar tinsel]

right <so that was a lie meme> ha

[still vault]

I do wonder sometimes. If DICE did zero gameplay testing, didn't try and make it fit into the universe too hard, and just slapped elements into a field until there was a map. How long would it take and how bad would it be? 😄

[mental delta]

I was hoping for 8 weapons per update, 1 AOW map and 2 new Portal maps

[solar tinsel]

I would have been ok with less weapons, but I was DEFINITELY hoping for both Portal + AoW maps

"the dream" seemed to be each Season having a AoW content drop and Portal content drop, like Season 1 could have been Exposure/Zero Hour + Battlefield 1 legacy,

[dapper river]

Ah sweet I also love Squad!

[mental delta]

6 weapons would have been enough but yeah 3 maps per update AOW and Portal combined, would have been the bare minimum

[solar tinsel]

haha

[mental delta]

And to be fair that's what they let us think if I'm not wrong, I really thought we would get new Portal content every season

[signal trout]

yo how the fuck do you get the preorder bf2042 jacket
i preordered ultimate edition and i didnt got anything physical

[solar tinsel]

Yeah, admittedly it was never promised - I confess, but it would have been nice and I got the sense that all 3 modes would be supported ongoing

[mental delta]

They insisted on the fact both AOW and Portal would get updated regularly like each season

[solar tinsel]

ah, well then, shyyt ha

[mental delta]

And they also gave up HZ and so the game's lore

[solar tinsel]

I always thought it was a rumor

[solar tinsel]

yeah I mean Im less upset about that, but it's another fair point

[dapper river]

A Battlefield map is substantially larger than other multiplayer shooters, within a 3 month season I would have expected the main team to put out one AOW 2042 map and Ripple Effect would work on remaking another map for Portal. 3 maps in a 3-month season would be too much for BF. It works for COD, but again those maps are tiny.

Now, why exactly Halo Infinite can only pump out 2 maps in a SIX MONTH season is beyond me

[mental delta]

They said they would bring a lot of content each season and what we got isn't enough to fulfill our expectations

[next onyx]

They've probably got the main team working on MCC.

Or some weird shit.

[mental delta]

That's sad because ethe game doesn't even have a campaign and they promised a lore though, but it will never get updated

[mental delta]

MCC ?

[solar tinsel]

yeah, it goes to show how behind they were, and that once they saw it wasnt working out, that they were able to drop it and not bother

again - I think 2042 is much better now and I am having fun

but it will sadly go down in history as the worst BF game to date IMO, at least for the time being

shame because I never really could get into CoD or milsims, Battlefield was always that perfect balance for me

[mental delta]

They even accused the launch of Halo Infinite to be responsible of BF2042's failure because they don't want to admit they committed errors and took all of us for fools

[solar tinsel]

Yeah EA has some of the most defensive/gaslighting PR and likely internal mindset out there

[mental delta]

Some COD games were really worth it, but I never enjoyed any FPS game more than Battlefield games, it's the perfect balance between serious enough and fun or cool

COD I just fun or raging

[solar tinsel]

yeah last CoD I got was MW3 and I despised it

[mental delta]

BF has some team play things and always a lot of content

[solar tinsel]

MW1 and MW2 were good though (the originals)

[solar tinsel]

yup

[left hollow]

mw2 was fantastic

[hard eagle]

If you get voted the most hated AAA games company then ur PR is worth diddly squat.

[solar tinsel]

definitely

[craggy onyx]

MW3 was the worst. So bad I got ptsd

[solar tinsel]

It also came out at a good time where BF was between Bad Companies at the moment

[left hollow]

does 2042 use photogrammetry? as i heard that bf1 uses it and that makes the game look stunning

[solar tinsel]

I mean it literally is what made me go 100% to Battlefield only after that. Prior I would play both even though I enjoyed BF more

[solar tinsel]

right haha

[craggy onyx]

MW3 also had one of the worst protagonists, Yuri

[left hollow]

should i get battlefield 1? because its free on ps5

[craggy onyx]

He was like the original Abby tlou2

[mental delta]

Ghost, AW, BO3, IW, BO4, CW

[solar tinsel]

I genuinely think EA is just not even a good company at making money too. They could of sold weapon camos for Portal legacy weapons if they had them in AoW from the beginning, and had progressions.

[solar tinsel]

Im of the mindset that TLoU2 is a masterpiece but I get why its divisive

[signal trout]

guys

[mental delta]

Yeah and we are still waiting for AOW weapons, at this point we won't see them until season 3 lol

[signal trout]

what happeneds after season 1 ends

[solar tinsel]

I thought they were suppose to come in during S1?

[left hollow]

yeah the thing is most of the bf3-4 era weapons would actually be plausible in AOW lore wise aswell

[solar tinsel]

Season 2, assumedly

[solar tinsel]

100%

[craggy onyx]

Dice ditches and makes bf1 2

[mental delta]

Me too, but we still got no infos so idk

[left hollow]

maybe theyll come late s1

[solar tinsel]

thats my hope

[mental delta]

They didn't even have to change their design to fit with 2042's atmosphere, it's weird they lost time doing that

[left hollow]

we still have 50 something days afterall

[mental delta]

I would say maybe season 8

[solar tinsel]

exactly

[left hollow]

yeah thats what im thinking aswell

[mental delta]

Like 2 updates during season 1 and the first one was during week 4

[solar tinsel]

my hope is that the Aug update at least has the Kalediscope 2.0 update as it will be the halfway point

with any luck, maybe first round of Portal weapons

[mental delta]

I hope it's first week of the month

[left hollow]

ngl if 2042 were to pump out updates like every 3 weeks it would be insane

[solar tinsel]

so far the updates have been a pretty consistent cadence of early each month

monthly updates is a good thing to do for a "live service" game, it keeps the devs on task with manageable goals for each, while allowing for constant balance tweaking

[left hollow]

i want to find a good bf3 conquest portal map but everyone plays the hardcore stuff

[mental delta]

Yes so I really hope it's not too far from now

[solar tinsel]

has been Wednesdays so far, so maybe 8/3 or 8/10

[mental delta]

When did they release update 1.0 for season 1

[mental delta]

Let's hope for 8/3 I really need those weapons to keep playing the game lol

[solar tinsel]

6/9 was the S1 launch, and I think 1.0 dropped a bit before that

[hard eagle]

They dont have talent and are shamless with 0 innovation. But they do have a golden goose ( FIFA).

[solar tinsel]

June 7 was 1.0

[mental delta]

Ok ok

[solar tinsel]

Jul 6 1.1

[left hollow]

yeah tbh the weapons are starting to feel boring

[mental delta]

1.1 was 6th of july

[left hollow]

like idk what gun to use anymore

[solar tinsel]

yeah so far it's been monthly updates since 0.4 I think

April 0.4, May 0.4.1, June, 1.0, July 1.1

[mental delta]

Yes and some of them are ugly, I am still waiting for new AR and LMG

[left hollow]

a new ar would be cool

[mental delta]

It's good to know, it seems like we're getting the update soon so

[solar tinsel]

High RoF AR will be cool, like FAMAS type. The M5A3 can be modded to be like that, but still, would be cool

[mental delta]

Yes that's why I am waiting for Portal weapons, I really want to play M416 and LMG from Portal

[solar tinsel]

Plus we're missing a .45cal style sidearm.

[left hollow]

i hope the season 2 map would include levelution

[mental delta]

Yes it would be awesome because AR in AOW are just too heavy and M5A3 handguard looks ugly to me

[solar tinsel]

I doubt we're seeing huge systems changes at this point

It's clear large levolution events don't really work in 2042, even though the engine supports it

[mental delta]

Not something really important I think unfortunately

[left hollow]

yeah youre probably right on that its the cool factor about it really

[mental delta]

Maybe a naval assault map in the best case

[calm bison]

Leopard 2a7 in AOW when

[solar tinsel]

THAT is something we are missing

Maybe a future season will be naval themed

[left hollow]

a naval assault map would be sick

[mental delta]

Yes and something we all need

[mental delta]

Like BF4 Oman for example, it would be awesome

[solar tinsel]

I'd even say more like one of the Naval Strike maps

[left hollow]

for some reason i could imagine there being a point on a submarine

[solar tinsel]

Oman isn't really a naval map IMO

like so many BF2 maps, it just had the US spawn on the carrier which led to the landmass of the map

[mental delta]

That's weird because the main menu has a large boat and the naval theme seems to still be a thing in AOW menu for season 1

[solar tinsel]

I know haha

Naval combat was completely overlooked

[mental delta]

Me neither but that's the best we can get for this game I think

[solar tinsel]

If they can make a map with a few small islands surrounded by water and connected with various water channels, itd work

[left hollow]

you never know they could throw a complete curveball on us

[mental delta]

I still think a lot of content had been cut off and that naval settings were part of it

[solar tinsel]

yeah I mean when you're behind development

you cut ideas

[mental delta]

Lol they can always break our expectations

[left hollow]

yeah

[solar tinsel]

and naval content while cool, is likely not as popular with most players

plus likely challenging if you're having a hard time with water physics

[mental delta]

It would be cool like BF4 Naval Strike maps

[solar tinsel]

100%

Naval Strike did a really good job providing all sorts of gameplay while keeping water prominent

[mental delta]

We can't even go underwater in this game, what a downgrade

[solar tinsel]

2 new vehicles can be one large slow battleship, and then a smaller attack boat

[solar tinsel]

ha

[mental delta]

Yeah it got an underserved amount of hate

[left hollow]

i could see a submarine being in this game for some reason, idk why

[solar tinsel]

Plus hey, we got Titan mode, sort of

[mental delta]

And maybe some additional jetskis

[mental delta]

It would take them a lot of time considering they can't even provide more than 1 weapon in 8 months

[solar tinsel]

Yeah jet skis can be the in world spawn, small boat with cannons can be personal, and then a dedicated category for the larger attack boat with all sorts of weapons

[left hollow]

hah truee

[solar tinsel]

It goes to show how well scheduled the previous games were. They had time to make easter eggs

[mental delta]

Yes and maybe as a call-in bonus

[left hollow]

wasnt there a megalodon easter egg?

[solar tinsel]

Ultimately: Coutaz and Zampella have a shit ton of work in front of them, and it wasnt even their fault truly ha. I dont know how much of that will be fixing 2042 vs. a new BF game, but still...

[left hollow]

or is that just the clickbait thumbnails messing with my head

[solar tinsel]

BF4 had that yeah

[mental delta]

Yes in both BF4 and BF1

[solar tinsel]

oh yeah BF1 too

[mental delta]

They will go through a lot of bullshit before they can make this franchise good again

[craggy onyx]

2042 was sabotaged late in development by infiltrations

[solar tinsel]

yeah they need to essentially rebuild that entire studio and franchise

like: look at their process, what their fans want, etc.

Somewhere after BF1 things started to fall apart

I know BF1 is well regarded, but you could see the signs. Even stuff like dismantling Battlelog (with all of its rich profile and stats) downgrading to a site that wasnt as good, to BFV having nothing

(well I thought BFV had nothing - I never played it)

the thread started to unravel

[mental delta]

Yeah they can just make the same stuff as COD does with cosmetics and amount of content, they thought BF community was the same as COD one and that's their major error to me

[solar tinsel]

Yeah, and thats likely due to a lot of vet devs leaving

[mental delta]

BF1 was cool but that's where I saw the shit coming with those "cosmetics weapon variants" you could get instead of customizing your guns a little bit

[mental delta]

Yeah but that's weird because EA insisted that they wanted the new teams to make stuff like COD does with battlepass and cosmetics

[solar tinsel]

the wild thing is, I think that CAN co-exist

but keep Battlefield true in other ways

like sure, make it so you have your classes and unlock cosmetic options for them

so you can make your own custom soldiers, and maybe a unique cosmetic pool for each faction

[lone void]

Battle pass and cosmetics are very good ways of supporting a game while keeping the player base together with free DLC

[solar tinsel]

so you can have 8 custom soldier cosmetics (2 factions per class)

[next onyx]

So basically bf5.

[solar tinsel]

I'd argue if it was "build your 8 soldiers", theyd sell more MYX that way

[solar tinsel]

I admittedly did not play BFV, did it have per faction customization?

[next onyx]

Yes.

[lone void]

Isn't that just BFV

[solar tinsel]

ah, yeah I think thats fine to be honest

[next onyx]

4 factions.

[lone void]

Yeah lol

[next onyx]

With multiple presets.

It was fun.

[solar tinsel]

thats great

[lone void]

[solar tinsel]

thats the right way to do it

In retrospect, I wish I didnt pass on V

[lone void]

The skins in BFV are pretty awesome ngl

[solar tinsel]

It just came at a time where other stuff was out and I was kind of down on the historical shooter

[hidden sand]

They would, but DICE would have rather reinvent the wheel than build off what they've done in the past.

2042s customization is objectively worse than BFVs.

[solar tinsel]

yeah and that reinventing the wheel was a large part of the catastrophe

they werent able to rebuild the new wheel! ha

[lone void]

Imagine wheels

And not flying

[mental delta]

Yes it could but it has to not be focused on pre-made outfits like in BF2042, but more on a BFV system in which you compose your own soldier's outfit with different parts of clothes

[signal trout]

i just exploded a tank with an EMP grenade what hte hell

[solar tinsel]

right, and that would actually SELL

like I said, I don't think EA is even very good at making money ha

huge monetization

sell helmets, glasses, backpacks, etc.

Hell corp it up and make that cosmetic MTX money

[mental delta]

Yes but the real actual content part has to be large and important, for season 1 they only relied on cosmetics and totally forgot about the actual content part, which is really frightening to me ngl

[barren python]

Is there no way DICE can bring back the RUSH game mode back 24/7. The 16v16 is pointless. Rush is an original game mode

[karmic granite]

It could use some more content

[mental delta]

Totally, because BF players aren't the same as COD players and would probably appreciate more customization

[stoic ferry]

bf is a smal part of EA. they make so much money on FIFA they can print money

[hidden sand]

You want Rush back, but 16v16 is pointless?

[barren python]

Proper RUSH. Not 16v16 yes

[hidden sand]

Proper Rush is 16v16 tho.

[barren python]

32v32 like the old games

[solar tinsel]

Yeah, but there may be some time that FIFA does not do as well. EA doesn't even have the FIFA license exclusive anymore

[mental delta]

I still don't get why people buy the new fifa game every year, I heard there were almost no changes at all from one year to another

[silk surge]

Now I feel I have the credentials to say that the stealth helis should be nerfed hard.

[solar tinsel]

It will not be FIFA 23, it will be EA Sports FC 23

[hidden sand]

That's not how it's meant to be tho. Rush was built for 16v16, that's a modified server.

[solar tinsel]

ha congrats

[hidden sand]

Fixed, not nerfed.

[barren python]

It was 32v32 on PC. 16v16 on consoles

[solar tinsel]

@stoic ferry - and what happens to EA if "EA Sports FC 23" does not sell as well as FIFA or make that same money. Now EA will be in trouble

[silk surge]

A bit nerfed as well tbh. Stealth mode shouldn't be indefinate until someone breaks your vehicle parts. It's so easy to escape stingers its not even funny lmao.

[hidden sand]

It was 12v12 for consoles in BC2, and 16v16 for PC.
Same for BF3.
Then BF4 was on last gen, so 16v16 for both console and pc. It's only ever been changed to 32v32 by server owners. It wasnt meant to be played like that.

[next onyx]

Bradley is kinda nasty.

[hidden sand]

Fair.

[hidden sand]

Looks good too.

[next onyx]

Have you given it a whirl?

Because rush of the ages is running with the map specific factions, You can use it and it really puts the hurt on everyone.

[hidden sand]

Did last night on PC, went on a 40 killstreak lmfao.

[next onyx]

It's fun.

Also I got a glitch.

Not the most appropriate for here so hang on.

Going through the 1942 maps had made me appreciate how nice the weapons feel.

The BAR especially.

[hidden sand]

The MP40 is wrong

It's actually got very minimal recoil in BF1942

Not sure what made them give it a hipfire machine guns worth of recoil

But what's funny about the Anti-Tank Class is how useful it actually is, you can decimate infantry with its pistol

And rocket launcher

[next onyx]

Yeah it's a funny class.

@hidden sand I wonder where the engineer is.

The recoil I don't mind especially since they're submachine guns.

[hidden sand]

Idk what was going on but visbility on that map in particular was rough when using the bradley

[next onyx]

It's not too bad but rockets do come from unexpected angles.

By the way, You can see the actual rocket launcher poking through the rock.

The little spike.

It feels so weird but nice to know what the hell you're up against.

Hey look a support so they're most likely going to be limited to LMG's and PDW's.

[hidden sand]

Yup exactly

Not everyone is going to have a M5 on your ass so

[next onyx]

I don't really care about the m5 part honestly. I'd rather know what I'm fighting. Everyone running up at you with dynamite is no different but... yeah.

But it nice to know that this guy can hurt me and that one can't.

[hidden sand]

Nah it definitely plays a part in how rough tanking can be in the 2042 era. When medics can be anti-tank there'll be a problem with balance.

But yeah, I've been exlusively playing that mode since it was put in rotation.

Finally BC2 and BF3 lol

Took them long enough

[next onyx]

Did the poor lad dirty.

Ohhhh that's right, I remember now.

Grenade launchers were gadgets.

So you gave up TNT for a grenade launcher but now you can run both.

[naive sandal]

*proper rush is 4 V 4

[left hollow]

Is it just me or does the game stutter/ rubber band alot?

[next onyx]

This view model is comfy though.

Could be your net Cookie.

[left hollow]

I was thinking that

[hidden sand]

Valparaiso looks so much better on PC.

Genuinely good remake of the map.

[left hollow]

Because it's really frustrating

[naive sandal]

My latv4 was rubber banding yesterday - no signs of network lag

I have the network stats displayed at all times

[left hollow]

I need to reset my internet because damn this is unplayable

[hidden sand]

I noticed the Kobra sights actually work now, which is based.

[next onyx]

There's something weird seeing inside of the halftrack though.

[left hollow]

That man has seen some things jesus

[hidden sand]

Damn he really be looking like he's reconsidering the life choices he's had up until that point

[next onyx]

I would too if my halftrack is about to be potentially hit by a sherman.

That last push mattered too cause we were so low.

[hidden sand]

Did you end up taking it?

[signal trout]

are 30mils on the stealths good

[next onyx]

Yes but we lost on the very last sector.

It was a fun push should have recorded it.

[hidden sand]

RIP

[next onyx]

Can't say I'm the biggest fan of the 1942 maps.

The end of round themes are kinda jammy though.

My favourite part if you take the objective and move onto the next sector, The theme still plays for a bit before properly ending.

[lunar finch]

No cover on the entire map moment

[hidden sand]

The 1942 maps were never built for Rush so I think any layout for it will be rough. Especially BoTB, which really has no good routes.

But ye, the music is good.

[next onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcmNFc3SdCA&ab_channel=TheReaper7410

[hidden sand]

I could be wrong, but I think they just re-used the actual 1942 tracks.

[next onyx]

Oh wait apparently there are two different end of round themes?

[hidden sand]

Which is based.

[next onyx]

Yeah it's sorta weird hearing those original tracks.

I'd say yay I'd like to see the BAR in all out warfare but after the VSS I don't want to deal with a broken ass gun again.

[hidden sand]

https://youtu.be/GcZx03mrQo0

Seems they weren't able to record this one, which is also in Portal

[next onyx]

Mh?

[hidden sand]

Dont care gib bar

Bar is good bar is good

[solar tinsel]

Watching this makes me wish 2042 was F2P so I could play on M&KB every so often haha, especially since there is cross progression

I can't justify buying it again on PC though really

[next onyx]

Nahhh you can't.

Would love some adjustment to the assault rifles to justify more lethal guns.

[hidden sand]

A futuristic bar would be cool tbh

[next onyx]

Yeah the HCAR exists.

[signal trout]

wait

guys

[next onyx]

Just looking at the M416. Would be nice if they copied its stats into the m5.

[signal trout]

is it just me or did the bolte got moved to the heavy vehicles category

[next onyx]

Yes.

[signal trout]

thats gay

[next onyx]

Use better language next time.

It's good that the bolte is there so barely anyone uses it.

[left hollow]

Bolte was pretty op

[signal trout]

idk i liked having it around

didnt really use it much

but it was a nice sight

lets hope the panhard wont be a heavy car

[left hollow]

Panhard?

[signal trout]

the car that shouldhave been added ages ago

[solar tinsel]

Honestly the bolte could live in its own category, I'd rather have more spawn pools of different types, but whatcha gonna do

But I think its better in Armor than it is in Personal

[signal trout]

we should have an assualt vehicles class

[hidden sand]

You would think.

[solar tinsel]

yeah like a mobile/fast tank or whatever, which bolte is

[next onyx]

We have attack helicopters and ground vehicles.

[signal trout]

bolte isnt a tank

[solar tinsel]

Well you know what I mean

mobile attack vehicle

Personal, Light Armor (Bolte), Heavy Armor (Tanks), Mobile AA (Wildcat), Jets, Heavy Chopper (Attack/Stealth), Light Chopper (Nightbird), Air Transport, Ground Transport.

More pools to ensure a wider range of vehicles is always in play

"Vehicle ecosystem!" as I always say

[hidden sand]

The bolte shouldn't be in the tank category at all. If it was like the Renault from BF1, sure, but it's not so it being used effectively is rare.

[nimble hornet]

2042 needs AA turrets, RC C5 drones, claymores and Exp boosters 👈🤟

[hidden sand]

C5 Drones

Nope and they'll never come back. 👍

[solar tinsel]

They could just make the Mobile AA actually significantly more powerful, but just reduce its range. This way you can position it smartly to truly ward off air in a particular sector

they also equpped the Mobile AA with too many ground attack weapons too IMO

so many players dont use it as AA

[signal trout]

theyre still around you know

[calm bison]

yeah but theyre practically useless

[signal trout]

why so

[calm bison]

the more C5 you put on it

the slower the drone moves

with all 3 c5 charges

[solar tinsel]

and boy do I love that balance

[calm bison]

snails go faster

also the drone is a lot bigger now

[nimble hornet]

@hidden sand I'm not talking about putting c5 on caspers drone lol I'm talking about a RC car that has C5 on it and is used for 1 spec only. Not every player would run it.

[calm bison]

so its easier to hit

[hidden sand]

You'll never actually get a kill with it though.

[hidden sand]

You can already put C5 on vehicles.

[calm bison]

like flores from R6?

Problem is, everyone has access to that specialist

[nimble hornet]

And die from trying lol@hidden sand

[calm bison]

its like Lis

Sure it's locked to one specialist

but whats stopping everyone from running said specialist

although an explosive RC car would be pretty funny

[hidden sand]

I mean, yeah, if you get shot down before you make it thats fair.

You shouldnt get to guarantee a vehicle kill.

[signal trout]

i want air support back

[still vault]

If everyone ran Lis I would pick a silenced sniper and just begin headshotting Lis'es that are standing still everywhere. Rock Paper Scissors gameplay should balance itself out.

[calm bison]

true

[carmine dawn]

Anyone having issues with weapon skin progression in coop mode? Nothing is counting for me. Just wanna chill in a bot lobby lol

[nimble hornet]

Nothing is stopped you, you decide what spec you wanna run.

The RC C5 drone would have a timer and a certain distance it can go. Kinda like Casper drone. You only get 1 RC C5 drone, no recharge and no way of resupply.

[uncut bay]

it's pretty funny how most lis players don't lay down or at least crouch before firing

just see them standing there

[nimble hornet]

How would this be OP then?

[solar tinsel]

The RC could work, but I think its too close to Lis and she was just released

we need a repair focused specialist! as that archetype isn't in the spec pool yet!

and thats a critical BF team role

[nimble hornet]

Each season will have new content, like maps, weapons and specs. Might not be this season or the next, but it is a good idea for a spec imo.

Anyone spotting in vehicle's should repair and anyone getting a taxi lift in the sky should also repair, but a repair spec would be cool to see.

[calm bison]

This is true

[solar tinsel]

I spitballed the idea of launching some sort of automated drone or gadget that can stick onto/follow friendly vehicles and repair them passively for a period of time. And maybe a passive that did something like slightly increase weapon reload cooldowns when in a vehicle.

[full burrow]

Hey guild what are the 3 featured portal modes please

[calm bison]

currently there isnt enough of an incentive for players to repair vehicles

[full burrow]

The game won’t show me anything it’s just blank but I can hover over

Guys*

[solar tinsel]

or perhaps made it so if you were in a vehicle, your passive is you slowly resupply ammo and health to friendly players in and around the vehicle

[calm bison]

The spec's active trait would be a faster repair tool, and vehicles they repair get a brief boost immediately after the repairing stops

[nimble hornet]

@solar tinsel now that's a solid idea 🤟 I would like to see that as a spec

[calm bison]

the passive trait could be that vehicles they inhabit slowly regen health after a smaller interval of time

[solar tinsel]

ah that works too, just a BETTER repair tool yeah

whatever it is, it's a critical BF role that just hasn't been given love yet

[calm bison]

An by inhabit, i mean drive

what if we had a specialist based around chemical warfare

they wear a gas mask

[solar tinsel]

Could be a good Assault class spec.

[calm bison]

and their ability is they can deploy a device that spreads toxic gas across a small area

[nimble hornet]

@calm bison toxic smoke nades?

[calm bison]

specialists can have gas masks

BUT

it's a gadget slot

like in hardline

[solar tinsel]

I feel like a Support spec will come sooner though, since there are only 2 of them so far

[calm bison]

mortar specialist

[solar tinsel]

that or another support type can be someone who SPECIFICALLY hands out armor (and only armor) and can revive all

so, essentially Angels old ammo pack, but with no ammo

[nimble hornet]

Need a camera spec that shoots 3 cams where they want to see ahead of the area they are about to contest, kinda like Valk on R6S.

Cams die off after time but recharge

[calm bison]

Or a device that can detect enemy devices like IQ

It allows players to sort of predict what kind of emplacements there are

It could work like Paik's scanner

[solar tinsel]

Idk what class this would fall into, but like a deception spec. could be cool.

Gadget along the lines of the distraction grenade or whatever it was in BC

[calm bison]

I feel like that would either be assault or recon

[nimble hornet]

@calm bison doesn't her scan find bors turret tho?

[calm bison]

i thought it only finds personnel

[solar tinsel]

passive is maybe while contesting a point, it doesn't reveal any capture progress for the enemy team for a few seconds

[calm bison]

I feel like we need two more factions besides US and RU

[lilac dust]

Take me back to BF4 where you didn't have to shoot 3 RPG's at a transport heli

[solar tinsel]

maybe, but not like there is any difference between them other than vehicles

[calm bison]

Maybe an EU faction that is like an amalgamation of the countries in europe remaining

and maybe an alliance from Asia

[nimble hornet]

Hmm I kinda wanna get on and try that out, because I can't remember if it's true or not, but I thought the scan picks up the player equipment.

[calm bison]

We could introduce things like the Leopard and Leclerc

[solar tinsel]

In all fairness though, vehicles are still underpowered though, since there are no class-restrictions on gadgets. Most matches, almost everyone has SOME form of anti-vehicle explosive, and with 64 enemy players in CQ......

[calm bison]

as well at the Type 10 MBT

[solar tinsel]

they really need class-restricted gadgets IMO

and then you can perhaps make the explosives a bit better

everyone is an anti-vehicle specialist, to some degree, in many maps

[lilac dust]

No I agree I have documented very often that I think we need more vehicles in a match, they need to be stronger and we also need to have air vehicles to counter air vehicles

[calm bison]

Yeah but it wouldn't hurt to have a pro-vehicle specialist

[solar tinsel]

agree to all of that

To the player, a vehicle can be OP, but to the vehicle operator, you're often bombarded by M5s, C5s, TGMs so quickly

[nimble hornet]

2042 needs navy vehicles also, we got ground and air, but no ships.

[solar tinsel]

In retrospect, I think allowing any class to have M5/C5/AA is what really hurt the vehicle gameplay a bunch

that might have been the worst change IMO

[calm bison]

The difference between OP and balanced is that a balanced vehicle sucks in the hands of a noob, while being terrifying in the hands of a pro. OP is when its terrifying when both parties use it

unfortunately

[fiery dawn]

As far as the air vehicles to counter air vehicles goes, all they need to do is separate jets from the helis in the vehicle menu

[calm bison]

vehicles that are designed to outperform small arms

[solar tinsel]

thats the quickest fix for sure

[calm bison]

are somehow a shock to the battlefield community

[lilac dust]

I really hope they revert that because it's just not interesting just "Hoping that 63 other people will help with an rpg when they probably wont

[solar tinsel]

right, I always say: yes a tank SHOULD be signficantly OP compared to infantry, and not even infantry player should "have a way" to handle it

rock paper scissors is so important

[calm bison]

exactly

[solar tinsel]

if tanks are rock, you let every infantry throw paper all the time with gadgets, it doesnt work well

[fiery dawn]

Yeah triangular balance feels completely gone from this game

[calm bison]

People are surprised when planes in BFV, which during WW2, air superiority was pivotal and still is, turned out to be more powerful than their STG

[solar tinsel]

ha

[calm bison]

I remember all of the anti-pilot posts on r/bfv

sweet jesus

there was a serious hatred for them

theyd complain that planes are unkillable

[nimble hornet]

We not gonna talk about 2042 not having ships or boats? Just air and ground lol 😆

[calm bison]

meanwhile tank mains could go 60-0 on Rotterdam in a tiger

I would know

[solar tinsel]

ha we had that convo a few hours ago, its wild

[calm bison]

because ive done it

The only time I've ever had a 100+ kill game on BFV

[nimble hornet]

Dang it, I missed it @solar tinsel

[calm bison]

was on grand ops

WHEN I WAS INFANTRY

INFANTRY

[solar tinsel]

I was saying I wonder if an upcoming season will be naval themed

[calm bison]

Not a plane

not a tank

infy

and yet somehow planes are OP

[solar tinsel]

Naval map, 3 new boat vehicles (light fast attack, heavy attack, jetski for in-world spawns)

[calm bison]

The highest ive every gotten in a plane was like 70-4

[solar tinsel]

in BFV?

[calm bison]

yed

[nimble hornet]

@solar tinsel this would be interesting,but no facts, I think season 3 or 4 will have them

[calm bison]

during 5.2 on wake island

i was largely tank hunting in my zero

[solar tinsel]

ah, yeah I passed on BFV, which I regret a little bit ha all things considered

[calm bison]

using the 500lbs bombs

they were op as fuck

[next onyx]

Best I've got was 120-0 in Iwo Jima.

Those 500 kilogram bombs were genuinely dumb.

[solar tinsel]

but I always liked how BF3/BF4 also always had strong jets, that of course had a counter in the form of the OTHER TEAMs jets, and powerful AA

[calm bison]

but i used them against tanks, and i always got kill chains because the infantry would hug them like blankets

[solar tinsel]

yeah

now 2042's jets aren't even that powerful (although the 25mm buff was welcome), but also can be hard to contest if the other team doesn't have a jet themself. Meaning, they're hard to kill, and hard to get kills with. Not very fun

[calm bison]

exactly

like it wouldnt kill them to give the jets hydra rockets or something

[solar tinsel]

Yeah that would be nice, or a bomb

[fiery dawn]

Yeah most times I get in a jet I end up just flying around and get like maybe a few kills if I’m lucky lol. Feels boring

[solar tinsel]

to be honest Id rather have jets have bombs than the stealth hlis

[calm bison]

it's dull

[fiery dawn]

I want laser-guided bombs

[calm bison]

theres nothing to do

[solar tinsel]

Seeing stealth helis fly up to the ceiling on BT with no anti air able to reach it, and just drop bombs non stop

[fiery dawn]

wtf lmao

[solar tinsel]

again, not fun

[calm bison]

Also

BFV is the only battlefield game that i legit get jumpscared by tanks

they are that terrifying in BFV

[solar tinsel]

tanks USED to be scary, yes!

[calm bison]

in 2042, 1, and 4

it's like

oh look

target practice

[solar tinsel]

again I think that comes down to almost everyone having an answer for vehicles

[nimble hornet]

Shotguns need dragons breath Rounds , we also need a grenade launcher spec.

[calm bison]

why do people praise the tanks in 4?

its like go karts

but worse

BF1 tanks are umm... interesting? the arty truck and heavy tank are arguably the most powerful

[nimble hornet]

I know whats wrong with it, it ain't got no gas in it.

[calm bison]

luckily prices are going down

[solar tinsel]

I also despise the "turret momentum" in 2042's tanks

[calm bison]

i liked the desynced turrets in BFV

[solar tinsel]

that may be my biggest gripe with them

[calm bison]

but in 2042 they just feel weird

[solar tinsel]

well when you push a turret in a direction and stop

it keeps going a bit

[calm bison]

what the fuck

[solar tinsel]

unless your zoomed

but zoomed out

at least on console

not sure about PC

[calm bison]

i play on console

[solar tinsel]

but if you swing your turret left to right

and stop

you'll notice it keeps going a half a second more

[calm bison]

tanks on last gen 2042 were genuinely awful

[solar tinsel]

it's like they built in input latency as a feature.....

[nimble hornet]

@solar tinsel deadzone maybe?

[calm bison]

tanks on next gen 2042 were better

but still not good

[solar tinsel]

nope, I'm pretty confident its a "mechanic"

It doesnt happen when zoomed

[hidden sand]

Turret delay is good imo.

[solar tinsel]

It's the worst thing ever

[little dust]

how many more months until we can remove attachments from the + menu, and emblems from our player cards? xD

[calm bison]

Explain to me how tanks from the 1940s have faster turret ring speeds than tanks FROM THE FUTURE

[hidden sand]

I prefer it, prevents tanks from swinging around in a split second and requires you think a little harder.

I do agree the turret speed by itself is too slow though.

[calm bison]

Like i'm fine with a turret desync in 2042

[uncut bay]

turret delay makes tanks unplayable for me, which is a shame. Was looking forward to using a wildcat to deal with air vehicles

[calm bison]

but goddamn

[solar tinsel]

nah, but tanks are already underpowered! like I said, everyone has a launcher

[nimble hornet]

@little dust until the game decides its the right time lol we will never know 😆

[calm bison]

i'll have my college degree but the time the thing turns 180 degrees

[solar tinsel]

Plus now you're building around an undesired effect equivalent to input latency

[fiery dawn]

The turret movement should be slow but when you stop moving your mouse or stick the turret should stop turning also

[solar tinsel]

THIS

Im fine with a slow turret

but it shouldnt keep going

[calm bison]

Again

A tank manufactured in the 1940s

has a turret that spins faster

[hidden sand]

Trust me, I have written a thesis worth of stuff on how tanks are underpowered in this game lol. I just prefer it is all.

[calm bison]

than a tank made in the 2030s

what

the

fuck

[fiery dawn]

You prefer what exactly Suika

[solar tinsel]

ha, well I'd only be fine with keeping it if tanks were TRULY powerful, had like triple health and massive damage

[calm bison]

someone screwed up

and it wasn't josh from kings dominion

[solar tinsel]

yeah it's just a weird gameplay decision, that no other BF game had to my knowledge

[hidden sand]

BFV had it and worked great there too.