battlefield-2042

[hybrid lake]

like for me, my guns are all T3, so I don't have anything to gain from restricted xp/mastery

[late scarab]

Ahh that doesn't sound like much fun tbh 😂

[bleak tide]

All I want is a game mode I can start with full xp and bots which aren’t low health or any shit like that

[hybrid lake]

128 player chaos rush is :))
just search for servers with "Any" slots free and you'll also find the full servers. Queue usually goes quickly and it's just chaos and people everywhere. There's usually like 2-4 servers live that are almost full if not full

[hybrid lake]

not possible. Bots make it restricted

[bleak tide]

I know

Can’t even use the rules editor without loosing all xp rewards

[tame cobalt]

Common portal L

[inner furnace]

does anyone just get random crashes?

just straight to desktop, twice now

and i keep getting kicked from matches

3 times in a row now

it just sends me back to the main menu randomly

[still vault]

2042 is not especially prone to crashes anymore after the first round of patches to the game. The most likely reason is something on your end. If I begin having weird crashes in a game the first thing I always do is do a clean uninstall of graphics drivers using DDU in safe-mode followed by installing the latest drivers.

[inner furnace]

It just happened after what I assume was an update, was completely fine before.

Took a few weeks off from the game and came back. Very odd, not sure what's happening

Tbh the match disconnects I'm more curious about because that one at least is more than likely the game

[still vault]

If it sends you back to the main menu I would suspect your internet connection. But you might want to repair the game and delete the Documents\Battlefield 2042*cache* folder just to be sure

[inner furnace]

I'll just be playing and then BAM loading symbol and dumps me back in the main menu

Okay, I'll try that.

Was there an update recently?

I noticed the menu music and load screen music not playing bug is fixed now is why I ask

[still vault]

Was one last week. Have seen some performance reports about it which is mostly solved by deleting the cache folder but nothing like you describe.

#game-news

[inner furnace]

Oh okay. Either way, I'll give that a shot.

Oou, DMR buffs? Don't mind if I do.

aaaand now I got a DirectX error and crashed, thats new lol

[fiery solar]

Lol got a 11 minute round how

[short pebble]

HARDCORE TDM snipers still no onehit in body this game sucks

[chilly jacinth]

skill issue

[grizzled whale]

Yeah the official hardcore is bad

[glad pecan]

Yo I really love battefield <3

[woven lava]

My unlocks won’t unlock : [

[uncut bay]

official hc is hardly hc at all

and it's a shame that portal experiences with proper hardcore have no progression

[arctic grove]

sometimes 2042 is setting ultra lowest resolution
any fixes for that?

[fierce solar]

i wish it was possible to find a game without crossplay

im fucking sick of kbm players

[arctic grove]

omg the goatifi himself

[arctic grove]

you can disable crossplay lmao

can

[fierce solar]

? Ik but you cant find a game without it lol

[arctic grove]

dead game lol

[still vault]

As a PC player a lot of the best players on the servers I play on are XB or PS players so I'm happy for cross-play.

[hybrid lake]

as a ps player, I mostly get killed cqb by pc players jumping around corners

I can definitely feel and see the difference

but I still get good games so don't feel obliged to turn it off. If servers are full due to it, why not have it on

[fierce solar]

does 2042 have sbmm ? or its purely randon that some games im doign fine and other games im getting fucked hard

[foggy halo]

How do you know?

Do you keep a count?

[foggy halo]

Typical bf experience

[still vault]

Don't keep count. Just often see people play well and then when I see them on the scoreboard they have their platform listed next to them.

[foggy halo]

It’s meaningless

[upbeat sand]

2042 MVP
TOM BRADY "What a time to be alive!"

[chrome fox]

too real…

[fierce solar]

renewal is by far the worst map ive ever played in any bf lol

[foggy halo]

You are wrong lol

[upbeat sand]

For me (personally) I find some of the bf4 dlc maps where it's just very spread out with nothing but hills and roads in between and thats it

[arctic grove]

I'm gonna be real

[upbeat sand]

For me worst map is the 64 version of discarded

[fierce solar]

ngl i like discarded

[foggy halo]

Bf4 dlc 🤔

[foggy halo]

Cursed taste

And gameplay

[arctic grove]

As a PS5 guy I haven't noticed a significant difference in skill between console and PC. I am still confident that PC holds an advantage, but this isn't a competitive FPS. In battlefield's environment, where any number of random things can kill you, a slight difference in aim isn't a big deal

[upbeat sand]

Discarded is good but I just don't like the 64 layout with the 3 points and 1 ship in the middle

It's way to easy to back cap and lock the enemy out

[foggy halo]

Imagine liking discarded holy shit

[arctic grove]

does anybody know how to fix this error
directx function "res" failed with E_UNEXPECTED ("Unexpected failure."). GPU: "NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060", Driver: 51659

[upbeat sand]

Really only reason i like it is cause of the town areas

[upbeat sand]

Might be out of date driver

Or unstable driver

Or unstable clock

[fierce solar]

the gun balance is such a mess

[naive sandal]

Soo why the hell am I not seeing red glowsticks on opponents (I'm on ps5)

[foggy halo]

Do you regret buying the game?

[fierce solar]

still better than vanguard

[foggy halo]

You didn’t say that you don’t regret 🤣

[fierce solar]

and didnt say i regret

[foggy halo]

I knew what I was saying

[upbeat sand]

M5- no nerfs needed but nerf close combat
Ak24- no nerf needed (maybe a slight increase of recoil?)
Sfar-m gl- maybe range nerf?
Ac42- no nerfs

Pbx-45- no nerfs
Pp29- buff
Mp9- nerf
K30- nerf

[foggy halo]

Don’t pretend things, you do lol

[upbeat sand]

Lcmg- nerf
Pkp-bp- no nerf

Dm7- no nerf
Svk- no nerf
Vcar- buff
Bsv-m- nerf

[foggy halo]

you should’ve refunded after I told you it was a mistake 🤣

[upbeat sand]

Sws 10- no nerf
Dxr- no nerf
Ntw- increase vehicle damage (but that's just my hot take)

Pump shotgun- nerf
Gvt- buff (maybe)
12m auto- nerf
Ghost maker r10- range buff

[arctic grove]

also

any info when kaleidoscope rework is dropping?

it should this month

but when?

[upbeat sand]

I think Next month since in 1.1 dice did say "new stuff to play with on the battlefield" or something like that

[arctic grove]

ah shit

yea

it was august

not july

💀

my bad

[fierce solar]

these guns are bs

was bf always this campy ?

[copper fulcrum]

BF1 and BFV were even more campy tbh

[fierce solar]

V didnt feel as campy as 2042 for me

[copper fulcrum]

Especially since BFV had two weapon types that pretty much enforced camping to actually use them

BF1 also having guns like the M1919 with a telescopic sight and a bipod

give that M1919 the pin down specialization and a hill and that sums up the average support player

[chrome fox]

bruh why the attackers get like 30 vehicles at a time

[upbeat sand]

We got 1 scope for sfar and vcar
4 new portal vehicles. (2 of em are bc2 ones that are replacing the old ones) 2 new bf3 portal jets

[copper fulcrum]

Two new modes for portal and a lot of blocks for them

[fierce solar]

nah this game is a fucking garbage with kbm players

also the fact that i have to press right trigger to like 75% for it to start shooting

[copper fulcrum]

You can change that in the settings

[fierce solar]

my rt deadzone is on 0

[copper fulcrum]

change the max input threshold to 0

it's like having hair trigger on

[arctic grove]

yea thats nothing

i hope they are serious with "this was test to see if players are still interested"

[upbeat sand]

Since this isn't really a actual content update and just small things that where done

[fierce solar]

i can set it to inimum of 5

and it starts shooting at about 50% trigger press

[copper fulcrum]

You could also swap the bumpers and triggers for a quicker press

[upbeat sand]

Dice said
"When is the next Update?

The next Update is currently scheduled for release in August, and brings further fixes and changes to the Battlefield. We’ll follow-up with full detail closer to its release."

[fierce solar]

not on xbox controllers

the bumpers are trash for that

[upbeat sand]

Get a better controller

[copper fulcrum]

I don't really have a problem fighting kbm players as a controller player. I typically play on Xbox Series X

[upbeat sand]

Like that 1 controller that the act man was advertising that I forgot the name of

For Xbox

[frank stratus]

what the hell happened here i open the chat and i saw someone's gun stuff

[fiery copper]

Whats going on

[frank stratus]

idk

[mossy badge]

buy good games

[fierce solar]

these controlelrs are way to expensive lol

[chrome fox]

why is 128 players gone

not enough players playing

[upbeat sand]

Exodus portal maps circlejerk, breakthrough and 128 rush portal servers

I'm sick of exodus

I want 128 back

[chrome fox]

what is even exodus

[arctic grove]

its not gone+

conquest is still in 128 mode

only breakthrough is 64

[copper fulcrum]

Conquest is 128 player Conquest
Exodus is 64 player Conquest

[fierce solar]

thank god there are modes with limited vehicles in portal

[upbeat sand]

The aus map rotation got fucked and now it's just Valparaiso, Valparaiso, Valparaiso, Arica harbour, Valparaiso, norsior canals, discarded, renewal, renewal and repeat

[chrome fox]

breakthrough is so fun

[upbeat sand]

VAL
FUCKING
PARASIO

[mossy badge]

what is parasio ?

[upbeat sand]

Valparaiso

[chrome fox]

a bsvm with poison bullets

[fierce solar]

valparaiso and that one map where one side is desert and the other one is green are the worst maps

[mossy badge]

are you saying val is paradise ?

[chrome fox]

val praise

[upbeat sand]

it's the map name

[mossy badge]

its a map

i got it now

[upbeat sand]

From bad company 2

[mossy badge]

i thought you saying as val is paradise

[upbeat sand]

Blame dice

Or whoever made badcompany

[mossy badge]

i never played bad company

[chrome fox]

Dice

coldwood int.

[mossy badge]

i only played 4, 1, 5 and 2042

[crisp junco]

I remember when i played bad company 2 i finished the campaign and didnt even know it had multiplayer

[upbeat sand]

I played bc2 campaign for about 4 missions but then stopped after the game saving me at a place that was 30 mins before where i got to

[stoic ferry]

I want MP games to stop adding SP.

[upbeat sand]

What wrong with a sp mode

[stoic ferry]

Resources

[upbeat sand]

(Not including that 1 time where train go boom)

[stoic ferry]

it cost money. time and ppl to make them

money, time and ppl that can make MP better

[mossy badge]

ahahahahah look at 2042

🤣

[stoic ferry]

create SP games , yes. but dont ad a SP in a MP

[mossy badge]

game has no single player and it still isn't a quality game

[stoic ferry]

problems with that game has nothing to do with lack of SP

[mossy badge]

there is

[stoic ferry]

no

[upbeat sand]

Ey the actual story and lore around the game is pretty good when you actually take the time to read and listen to all of it

[mossy badge]

i also thought that if there will be no campaign then maybe multiplayer will be quality and its below average now

all resources are on multiplayer still we got 1 map after 7 months

2 guns in which 1 is crossbow not a gun

[stoic ferry]

ok

you need warm milk after your cry?

or a hug

[mossy badge]

i am not crying i am telling you

[stoic ferry]

well it sounds like crying 😄

[upbeat sand]

Dice are saying that they a focusing on performance and bugs before content so that would explain it

[mossy badge]

that single player is required

[late scarab]

Are we able to turn off Cross-Platform on BF2042? 🤔

[upbeat sand]

And since every patch now seems to have at least a hundred either around that number higher and lower bug fixes

[stoic ferry]

if you start the game and look in the menu, you will find out

[mossy badge]

thats the thing about this channel if i will tell you anything negative about this game you will say crying , cod fanboy or morbius will say skill issues

[late scarab]

I'll have a look later thank you

[upbeat sand]

Settings then it's the first option next to video

[stoic ferry]

do you play the game?

[late scarab]

Thank you!

[fierce solar]

Don't expect to find any game with it turned off tho

[mossy badge]

i play better games
played it didnt liked it
moved on and started playing better games
and hoping that maybe one day this game will become good

[late scarab]

Oh really :/

[stoic ferry]

so you dont play the game. but find your time on a discord server for the game.

move on dude.

[upbeat sand]

It's like this people who just go and complain about a game so they don't play it and instead of spending time on games they enjoy and having fun they go out of their way to bitch about it at any time

[mossy badge]

dude all i said is that battlefield games need single player
you are the one who got offended
sorry if i offended you

[stoic ferry]

im not

[mossy badge]

[nova gull]

I never take battlefield for single players since bf3

[fierce solar]

am i the only one who enjoyed bf3,4 and hardline campaigns? nothing fancy but they were fun imo

[upbeat sand]

Recker stop clipping through the floor

[chrome fox]

my team professional throwers

[little lagoon]

BC, BC2 and 3 are the only worthwhile SP. However

There are some gems in 1 and V, mostly 1

[upbeat sand]

Yeah this place has all the warmth of a dick Clark special

[little lagoon]

I...don't get it.

Maybe I made you feel old

[tame cobalt]

Battlefield 2042

[jolly sleet]

Battlefield 2042

[jolly sleet]

season 1 good

we need more battlefield 1 content in portal

[chrome fox]

im convinced im one of the best 2042 snipers

[bleak tide]

I don’t play the game

I don’t like it

But I don’t hate it

[sour edge]

Once again I’m asking

Why does my jet when I let off the analog stick return to flying straight or down (especially when it’s pointed upward)

Why does it even out

Unlike the helicopters

Someone help me

[boreal sonnet]

Helicopters also try to return to a level if you don't have any input, its a huge problem imo

[uncut bay]

should be a toggle for it

kinda stupid to have aircraft autolevel in a game where you're constantly not wanting to be level

[solar tinsel]

Yeah its like Heli flight assist or something

[boreal sonnet]

i just started again today because why not, i really have a hard time getting the grip of the Little Bird in 2042.
you can never have the trajectory you want because it has this sort of flight assist all the time

[sour edge]

But what about for planes

[solar tinsel]

It must apply to all aircraft actually, I forgot the specific name

but I know when I fly jets or helis I don't auto level

[boreal sonnet]

i'm still hoping for a rework of the flight model, cuz its terrible

[solar tinsel]

Might just be "Aircraft flight assist" or "flight assist" it applies to all aircraft

[solar tinsel]

The flight physics do seem worse compared to BF3/BF4

[boreal sonnet]

I can't comment for jets,, but for the little bird its not even a competition yeah

i feel like i'm lacking so much control

[solar tinsel]

Coupled with the slower cannon projectile speed on jets (although thankfully improved w/ the 25mm, but still not fantastic), it makes it difficult on some strafing runs

not to mention trying to fine tune aiming while zoomed in a jet can sometimes be really sporatic (at least on controller)

[boreal sonnet]

but well, i'd accept that tradeoff if the weapons were usable, but that really isn't the case

[solar tinsel]

like sometimes a nudge makes a huge adjustment, sometimes not at all. I'm guessing it's related to flight physics or latency and not necessarily aim controls though

[solar tinsel]

the little bird weapons?

[nova sundial]

I was just playing infantry conquest because I thought it’d be fun. My team had a 200 point lead over the enemy team and then suddenly we lost every single point at the same time.

Then i killed a guy and about 5 seconds later i got booted off the server i was on.

[arctic grove]

Define flight physics lol

[boreal sonnet]

yes, the miniguns are basically useless for anything but other helicopters.

[arctic grove]

Or lack thereof. Honestly I much prefer 2042 jets to BF4 and BF3, especially with the projectile adjustments

The BF3 jets felt like they were on rails.

Way too easy

BFV had the best planes hands down

The issue with 2042 jets is not the jets themselves. It's that we only have 1 class of jets, and they are also tied to heli spawns

When you are actually dogfighting with another jet, they are superior to BF3 and BF4 jets.

Stealth helis were a mistake, we needed more jets

[solar tinsel]

It feels like turning speeds are inconsistent, and then just how the jet handles when zoomed in to make precise adjustments, also feels inconsistent

[solar tinsel]

yeah, that is the issue

Jets need their own spawn pool, even if it is just 1

this way each team can have a jet, and that will help keep choppers on their toes and not always uncontested

[arctic grove]

You couldn't even zoom in on BF3 and BF4 jets, and zooming is more for strafing ground targets. For that, feels fine to me. Perhaps they could dampen the control gains though

Turning speeds are... Hard to explain.

If by inconsistent you mean the SU-57 turns faster than F-35, yeah sure.

[solar tinsel]

I thought you could zoom on BF3 jets, but perhaps Im misremembering, 3D spotting made it easier then ha

[solar tinsel]

nah I dont mean that

[arctic grove]

What you mean

[solar tinsel]

It means how sometimes I'll be full throttle because apparently "faster speeds are better for turning" but that even has inconsistent results for me sometimes

[boreal sonnet]

miniguns don't aim at the center of the reticle, so you have to offset to try to hit with one of the 2 miniguns but then the damage is non existent and you don't have any kind of range.

it really feels like the little bird is relegated to transport or spamming ATGMs

[sour edge]

Also with bad hit reg and accuracy on old gen, they are impossible to utizlie wel

[solar tinsel]

Maybe that's a part of the issue too, I do believe flight direction and momentum impacts this (I did in previous games) but it seems harder to account for

[boreal sonnet]

its just that the minigun flatout don't hit

[solar tinsel]

I know with BF3/BF4 I was able to get a good sense of where my shots would go, and on 2042 it sometimes comes as a surprise to me

The 25mm is a bit better at least thanks to faster speed and less spread, but still BF3/BF4 felt incredibly tight when shooting

[arctic grove]

It's not that faster speeds are better for turning. It's that afterburners are needed to maintain best turn speed when you are pulling Gs. BF isn't a sim, but that shit where you had to throttle up and down to hold best turn speed in BF3 was bullshit. The reason you get inconsistent turning speeds in 2042 is because, during level horizontal turns, you need afterburner for best turn speed. On verical loops, you gotta afterburn on the way up, and throttle back on the way down.

[sour edge]

Hit reg plus how they line up, you have to be at a specific distance where the two beams meet

[royal trail]

eac seem to freeze alot of peoples computers at startup in several different games since an update of theirs. please change anticheat 😐

[solar tinsel]

yeah that's what I thought I've been doing, but I'll keep checking and see whats going on. Maybe I am just too used to how it was

[uncut bay]

eac is just not a great choice

ever

[arctic grove]

This is because the guns are offset. I'm BF3/4, the actual bullet came out of the center of the nose. In 2042, the bullets come out of the gun pod on F-35, and left side of aircraft on SU-57. So it is offset a bit, and the reticle is only zeroed in for a certain range.

That's why F-35 rounds always hit low

This is why I think they need to add a strike fighter to 2042. These jets are simply not good for air to ground. We need something with bombs

[boreal sonnet]

i don't remember the bullets coming out of the nose of the little bird, because at close range you had to account for the guns being on either side.
in 2042 you need to account for it at every range, except it doesn't matter cuz the spray is so massive, you can only really kill at exteme close range

[arctic grove]

Oh you talking about helis. NVM, I don't fly helicopters

I only speak of jets

[boreal sonnet]

ah

[arctic grove]

Airplane tier list

BFV > BF1 > 2042 > BF3/4

BFV was godly, and I wish dice would make an arcade air combat game

[bronze steeple]

Maybe start a yet topic here

I am a infantry guy also because i cant fly haha i use grond vehicles too ofc

[solar tinsel]

@arctic grove do you tend to use a higher or lower FoV for jets. Maybe part of my issue is I bumped it up a bit, but I've always flown with lower console defaults in previous games

maybe I'll try bringing it back down

but maybe that only applies to 3P cam?

[arctic grove]

I use default console settings

[tacit sphinx]

the 25mm buff in the recent patch actually makes them really nice

vtol is like. actually good as an air to ground strategy now, obviously with the caveat that you're incredibly vulnerable to a single tank shell/rocket

[arctic grove]

https://youtu.be/__cLsBj_2nQ

[tacit sphinx]

and this is just with the default loadout because that's what spawns on the map in certain rush maps, with AGMs and repair it's more of a threat

[arctic grove]

I don't fly jets on conquest anymore. Not profitable

I only.do.air superiority now because I'm only interested in air to air

[tacit sphinx]

honestly, imo for in-map spawns the loadout should switch to the loadout for that vehicle of the person who first gets in it

dont think it should switch around every time the driver changes, but having it effectively empty of weapons until someone gets in and then the different seats are assigned would be nice

[arctic grove]

Battlefield missiles always sucked. They are stupid. You should be able to dodge missiles without flares.

[tacit sphinx]

although i think in-map spawns are only a thing on rush except for civilian vehicles

[arctic grove]

If you wanna see how I fly @solar tinsel

[solar tinsel]

Thanks, I might return to that (although I havent done that in a while since 2042), but maybe the availability of it on console this time made me think i'td be a good idea, but perhaps not

thanks for sharing the link, I admittedly have yet to try out air superiority but I want to. Is it featured now in Portal?

[arctic grove]

Not featured but there are plenty of servers

I only do F-35 vs SU-57 stuff

More asymmetric since the F-35 doesn't turn as well as SU

[fiery dawn]

Because Dice doesn’t know what balance means

[solar tinsel]

Yeah Im surprised they didn't give both the same and both VTOL modes

like, it's the future they can make uo whatever they want

[arctic grove]

The SU-57 doesn't have vtol

And if you are shit, you can still keep up with the SU-57

[solar tinsel]

No I know Im just saying Im surprised they didnt make up a RU jet with VTOL

[arctic grove]

Irl the SU would turn way better anyways. I know it's just a game, but the turn difference feels a bit more authentic, especially when the F-35 can put on the brakes instantly with vtol

[solar tinsel]

well it's ultimately due to flight speed right? The SU can hit faster top speeds and therefore turns sharper/faster

[arctic grove]

No, it's just more responsive

The SU may be a bit faster in game, but not by much

Interestingly enough irl the SU-57 performance would be drastically better than F-35 in almost every way.

[fiery dawn]

Only the F-35B variant is equipped with STOVL - short takeoff and vertical landing (VTOL) IRL anyway so they could’ve just put the F-35A or C variant in the game and not given it VTOL mode and made both jets have the same speed and maneuverability for the sake of balance.

[arctic grove]

Well even then the SU is quite a bit more agile, and I really like having VTOL anyways

[solar tinsel]

Yeah thats kind of what I think would make more sense. I mean I suppose the asymmetry means dogfights dont even in circle jerks, but its not like dogfights happen a lot all the time in CQ... and if thats what people want to do, well,t hats their choice

[arctic grove]

I prefer having to mix it up

[solar tinsel]

The VTOL mode can be nice, but you can easily also get shredded by ANYHTING when in it

[arctic grove]

When I fight F-35s the best pilots know when to switch to VTOL. When I fight SU-57, the best pilots know how to out-rate me

[fiery dawn]

Actually in this iteration of Battlefield when it comes to jets, speed is directly positively correlated with turn rate. So the faster you go the faster you turn. Which is stupid first of all. But that’s why the Su57 turns sharper than the F35. Dice said they made the F35 a bit slower because it has a smaller hitbox so it’s harder to hit in a dogfight.

[arctic grove]

The F-35 is a bit slower, but not by a huge amount. At any speed, the SU-57 is more manouverable and more responsive

[solar tinsel]

Yeah that was my understanding of it, speed = turn rate

see I wasnt going crazy I knew I heard it somewhere ha

[arctic grove]

An SU-57 and F-35 flying at the same speed, SU-57 has superior turn rate

[fiery dawn]

Because it’s faster. If you give the F35 the exact same speed and flight model of the Su57, I would imagine it’d actually be more maneuverable because it’s smaller.

[arctic grove]

Speed and turn rate do correlate, but that's not the only factor

With the current flight models, SU-57 out rates at F-35 at any airspeed

[fiery dawn]

How do you know this

[arctic grove]

Cuz I tested it. Also responsiveness is a factor

[fiery dawn]

How could you test it if you physically can’t get the F35 up to the same speeds as the Su57

[arctic grove]

If I fly F-35, it takes longer for me to get to my max turn rate than it would for SU-57. The F-35 is more sluggish to respond to control inputs

[fiery dawn]

Because it’s slower

[arctic grove]

Dude

Do you speak English

Read what I daid

Said

At the same airspeed

If I fly an F-35 and an SU-57 at 150 knots and maintain that speed in game, the SU-57 turns faster and is more quick to respond to control inputs. This happens at any speed

The SU-57 may be able to attain a greater top speed, but this isn't the only factor here

youtube has the introduction of the difference between f35and su57

Literally just do it. Fly both jets

Test them out at different speeds.

100, 200, 250

[fiery dawn]

Ok but this doesn’t make much of a difference. Because you turn faster at higher speeds. So anyone piloting either jet isn’t going to be trying to make turns at lower speeds. You may be right but I mean either way the jets aren’t on the same playing field and something needs to change.

[arctic grove]

Helicopters are better than jets

[fiery dawn]

Ofc they are

[arctic grove]

Just few players drive them

[fiery dawn]

Both jets are dogshit imo

[arctic grove]

Lmao

It does make a difference. If F-35 was given an increase of top speed to match SU-57 top speed, the SU-57 would STILL have the superior turn rate. Also, not every dogfight situation requires best sustained turn rate. Sometimes you need small radius turn instead

Now the vehicles are only helicopters and wildcat

Helicopters are ridiculous

Huron ,Hannibal

I think battlefield always naturally lended itself better to helis

But I'm this game it's crazy

😂

Nooooboddy uses jets, and when they do, they crash them in 5 seconds and then respawn in a heli

I have literally never seen a jet on exposure. Map is just no good for it lol

maybe they are noob jet pilots

Whatever. Got air superiority now

Whenever I get a jet, I just get bored because there is nobody to challenge me.

And fighting helicopters is boring and a pain in the ass

yeah

Shoot, do some damage, fly away. Get a missile shot at you. Pop flares. Wait for flares to reload, come back. Rinse and repeat

i often use helicopter cannon or 7.62mm heavy machine gun to shoot jets

it does work

Maybe if BF's flare and missile mechanics weren't ass, it would be more fun

But you cannot dodge a missile without flares.

[fiery dawn]

That’s why I used the jets for dispatching land vehicles but they nerfed the AGMs so it’s a lot harder to get vehicle kills that way now

[arctic grove]

Sometimes you can fly behind a Mountain but that's situational

Why tf would they nerf the agm

Ughhhhh

[fiery dawn]

You didn’t know?

[arctic grove]

Nopee

to be honest,it’s so hard for jet to kill helicopters

I have only been doing air superiority lol

[fiery dawn]

the increased the missile reload time from 8 seconds to 20 seconds

[arctic grove]

They should do that for air to air missiles, not my beloved agm

Well now I have even less reason to use them

Omfg dice

[fiery dawn]

you have to become a 30mm crack shot now if you want to have a chance at destroying a tank at all

[arctic grove]

It's probably because everyone is complaining about how vulnerable tanks are

[fiery dawn]

otherwise they just run away and hide or repair every time before you have missiles ready again

[arctic grove]

If they felt the need to nerf the agm, there is no way we will get another jet class. Fuck

[fiery dawn]

then fkn give tanks better countermeasures don’t nerf the already damn near useless jets lmao

[fiery dawn]

agreed

[arctic grove]

I will say, this game is the game where I fly the jets least.

[fiery dawn]

Because they’re trash bro. At least that’s the reason for me. In BF4 they were actually skill-expressive and could be really fun once you got the hang of it

[arctic grove]

You’re so brave

Lol

This is official discord

😂😂

And see the thing about a jet is it's supposed to be OP. I'm every other BF game jets dominated. A good jet pilot owned the lobby. As they should. ITS A FUCKING JET.

[fiery dawn]

what are you talking about kevin

[arctic grove]

Yeah Kevin. In fact saying you like 2042 is brave here lol

[fiery dawn]

[arctic grove]

You said they are trXxx

😂lol

[fiery dawn]

They most certainly are

[arctic grove]

😂😂

They are fun to fly and I love them, but using them in combat is ass

[fiery dawn]

That’s the exact way I feel about them

[arctic grove]

The purpose of jets is to kill jets

Can't do that when nobody flies jets

[fiery dawn]

Separate jets from helis in vehicle menu. Boom problem solved

[arctic grove]

Because helis are 10000000x better for everything

[arctic grove]

True dat

[fiery dawn]

One of the Dice devs responded to that suggestion in a forum by saying “We like this idea”

So we’ll see. Maybe there’s hope

[arctic grove]

I understand why they combined the spawns, it's just stupid

[lone void]

Jets doodoo, nuff said

[fiery dawn]

What I don’t understand is why they haven’t nerfed the stealth helis yet. It’s the reason we still only get 1 air attack vehicle at a time even in 128 player conquest. So lame

All other air attack vehicles have been nerfed enough or are balanced enough that multiple on each team wouldn’t be too oppressive except that stealth heli exists. Even 1 stealth heli completely mops the battlefield by itself in most cases.

[lone void]

I just hate how almost all the air to ground weapons have 0 splash damage, requiring you to be an expert marksman is a vehicle as stable as the servers for more than 3 seconds to kill anything

[arctic grove]

In BF1 for instance, they had bombers, attack planes, and fighter planes. Bombers are all air to ground, attack planes were air to ground with secondary air to air, fighters are air to air with secondary air to ground.

The transport helicopter and condor replace the bomber, while attack choppers and scout helicopters replace the attack plane. Stealth jets are just fighters.

But now we have stealth helicopters and it's like... Wtf okay.

[fiery dawn]

Are you talking about trying to kill infantry or ground vehicles?

[lone void]

Either

I might just be very shit at flying

[arctic grove]

In dice's mind they must have thought "we gave them more air vehicle types than in previous game iterations". Fair enough but we need more jets and they should be their own spawn category

[lone void]

But I can't for the life of me hit infantry and vehicles just never seem to take any damage anyway

[arctic grove]

No using jets against ground is ass. You are not the ass. The jets are

[hallow sierra]

not to mention dat u got some ppl dat sit in stealth helis just dropping bombs above the objective

[lone void]

Even in a littlebird the rockets do shit all

[arctic grove]

Yeah why do helicopters get bombs

You could have just given the jet that shit

They literally called stealth jets LOL

The rockets are anti infantry. The little bird can fuck off, it's fine

[fiery dawn]

They need to remove AGMs and add Laser-Guided Bombs actually. Makes much more sense. Would make destroying vehicles in a jet skill-based rather than the stupid lock-on mechanics. Would solve the problem of people feeling like they can’t do anything against the missiles in a tank

[lone void]

Make jets actually fly first, instead weirdly floating everywhere. That means they go fast and can actually go up and down

[lone void]

They never seem to work for me but I always get killed by them

Like 5 direct hits isn't killing a group of 3 people ok game thanks

[fiery dawn]

Nightbird got nerfed super hard and they nerfed it again this last patch (1.1). Wouldn’t recommend flying it at all

Just fly Stealth Heli - easy 30+ kills if you know what you’re doing and it only takes a few hours to learn

[lone void]

I can still barely fly in a straight line outside of the Condor so I'm finna crash no matter how good it is

Console flying so asssss

[fiery dawn]

Console

xD

[lone void]

[arctic grove]

The stealth heli was a mistake. I saw the reveal and I was like "wtf where is my.strike eagle"

[lone void]

Fuck off with your PC cringe race shit rn

[fiery dawn]

[arctic grove]

ADD AN F-15 AND AN SU-30SM

[fiery dawn]

F-15EX yes

[arctic grove]

Hey wait where you get the X-32 emoji lol

[lone void]

Just make a 2042 warthog

[arctic grove]

No

No

Fuck you

No

NOOO

[stoic ferry]

yes

[fiery dawn]

Lmaooo

[arctic grove]

Fuck that plane I hate it

[fiery dawn]

Not this again lmfao

Tryna remember which server the X-32 emoji is from

[arctic grove]

Everybody needs to obligatorily watch the lazerpig YouTube video on that

The A-10 is trash, always has been. F-15E/EX is better

[lone void]

You can just click the emoji it literally tells you?

[fiery dawn]

oh lmao

[fathom geyser]

Does dice has feedback website? I would like to give idea's to them

[arctic grove]

Ohhh

[tranquil turtle]

"but... But the brrrt noise 😭"

[fiery dawn]

well I already went and found the server

[lone void]

Dedication

[fiery dawn]

Growling Sidewinder Official Discord

[arctic grove]

The A-10 should have been cancelled before it came into service

You play DCS?

[fiery dawn]

Dude I’ve been wanting to get into it for a long time

[lone void]

Lots of salt over the funny brtt plane

[fiery dawn]

But I mostly just watch. It’s so entertaining

Idk if you watch Growling Sidewinder on Youtube or not but his stuff is great

I will get into DCS one day. Wanna get a proper setup for it first

[arctic grove]

I do

He's a good pilot

I used to do DCS but my computer broke and I got a PS5

[fiery dawn]

I see

[arctic grove]

I used to fly the F-15C in the competitive online servers

[fiery dawn]

Nice

[arctic grove]

Wanna see a sortie

I was really good

https://youtu.be/tGR51FVuOJ8

Gooood morning Vietnam

Another day in paradise

called #battlefield-2042

[fiery dawn]

What was your objective

[cunning breach]

kid moment

[fiery dawn]

Also did you use a head tracker or VR?

[arctic grove]

Killing motherfuckers

Head tracker

[fiery dawn]

How did you like it?

[arctic grove]

I literally just played to get as many kills as possible and survive

It was great honestly. I do have my criticisms of certain things like the missile modeling and stuff but it's fun

DCS is an airplane simulator, not a fighter pilot simulator. It does not do a good job at simulating the threat environment. It does good at simulating the aircraft

[fiery dawn]

Did you know what enemies were in the AO if any?

I’m not used to how the game plays standard I just know what I’ve seen on Youtube which is usually established scenarios

[boreal sonnet]

you gonna make people angry

[arctic grove]

Which specialist do you use best?

[arctic grove]

I'm right lol

[fiery dawn]

Looks like you’re using mainly AMRAAMs in this video no?

[arctic grove]

Yeah there are F key commands that ask AWACS bogey dope

[dapper berry]

Big gun goes brrrrrrrrrt

[fiery dawn]

Ah ok cool

[boreal sonnet]

every jet goes BRRRRRR

[arctic grove]

I fly with 3 tanks, 6 AMRAAMs, and 2 sidewinders.

[boreal sonnet]

F16 brrrrrr > A10 brrrrr

[fiery dawn]

Cool cool

[dapper berry]

More jets, more brrrrrt variation

[arctic grove]

Indeed

In dcs, you wanna burn those tanks ok afterburner, them jettison them before fighting. Use that fuel

[fiery dawn]

You can run 12 amraams on the F-15 though can’t you?

Or is that just the EX

[arctic grove]

That's only the EX

The F-15C only has 8 hardpoints

[fiery dawn]

Lighter weight means faster which means deadlier missile launches and easier defending right

[arctic grove]

EX could hypothetically hold like 22 if the USAF funds the AMBER racks

[fiery dawn]

Lol damn

[arctic grove]

Yeah.

I usually get up to like Mach 1.5, throw off some AMRAAMs, then dive to the deck behind a mountain or something

Difference between me and growling is I won't fire until like 12 miles lol. He will shoot a lot farther.

AMRAAM shot withing 12 miles at Mach 1.5 is scary as fuck.

[boreal sonnet]

isn't the F15EX able to carry 16 ? with 4 on the underside of the body work ( just beside the thrusters )

[arctic grove]

Yes

[boreal sonnet]

where do they get the 22 then ?

[fiery dawn]

Yeah I like Growling because his videos are usually pretty on the realistic side in that he is trying to take down the enemy but also get back home in one piece. Also I can’t imagine having a nice PC setup for DCS and being good and then having it break and settling for a console. Not that the PS5 isn’t top of the line as far as consoles go but still. Do you have plans to get back on PC at some point?

[boreal sonnet]

8 per hardpoints on the wings or something stupid x) ?

[arctic grove]

AMBER rack

[fiery dawn]

Did you try to land in a field lmao

[arctic grove]

Yes I did. Ran out of fuel lmao, but I got a lot of kills before so it's fine haha

[boreal sonnet]

Oh, looks kinda scuffed ngl

[fiery dawn]

Nice. No consequences for losing the plane or dying?

[arctic grove]

It's totally Boeing marketing and nobody is funding it lol

[lunar finch]

Bruh i keep getting into matches with this ttv and bro goes like 110-8

[arctic grove]

But if someone decided 22 missiles was necessary, there you go lol

[fiery dawn]

F-15EX Missile Truck

[boreal sonnet]

i mean what type of ordinance can you even mount on those, probably exclusively AMRAAMs or shorter ?

i don't see an immediate need for 22 x)

@arctic grovedo you know of the F15EX can supercruise ? probably not right..

[lunar finch]

How do u see ur 2042 stats?

[tepid agate]

Wow this BF3 reality mod looks interesting 👀

[still vault]

#battlefield-legacy-titles

[tacit sphinx]

battlefieldtracker.com, or the bot in #stats

[hardy crow]

Tank Superiority rounds are way too short

[arctic grove]

No. The main thing about F-15EX is increased payload due to fly-by-wire, new avionics, increased service life, and EPAWSS electronic warfare suite

[balmy turtle]

anyone else unable to match into regular conquest right now?

it's getting stuck in waiting for players every match and not filling up

[hardy crow]

Had an issue yesterday where I couldn't get into Conquest or Tank Superiority but it had an error message come up.

[arctic grove]

Supercruise isn't really that useful. While it does let you fly farther without emitting as much heat and burning as much fuel as afterburners, you still increase surface friction, and still have higher drag. This means less range. The name of the game is longe range, and subsonic cruise is still the best way to do that

[fiery shoal]

i had this happen a lot last night, i would exit and retry and get into an almost full match right away, or go to 24/7 exposure and get into full matches

i guess a vast majority of players are just playing exposure 24/7?

[balmy turtle]

i just had plenty of regular conquest matches and then all the sudden i cant find one anymore

it's weird

[mental delta]

I have to wait for more players to join everytime I launch one

Never get into a full lobby

[sweet barn]

maybe try during normal people hours

[fiery shoal]

happened to me on sunday from 6-9pm

[silk surge]

I hope they never nerf the HE bombs.

[fiery dawn]

[chilly jacinth]

ew

a stealth chopper user

[unborn herald]

cry

[arctic grove]

Ya know I don't like it but

I've never, not once been killed by a stealth chopper

[fiery dawn]

[fiery shoal]

*doesnt own 2042

[fiery dawn]

lmao

[hearty river]

Anyone wanna play? I’m a heli guy

[arctic grove]

I got 200 hours playing

Play like 2-3 times a week

[mossy badge]

i played with ea play

[arctic grove]

Still haven't been killed by a stealth chopper

I tend to not stay in open areas or stay in 1 spot long enough for a heli to kill me.

As infantry, avoiding dying to vehicles is very easy if you aren't stupid

[fiery shoal]

as someone that fully believes in this and practices this, its still impossible to not die to vehicles unless you are absolutely hell bent in not dying to them that you stay out of areas they even have a chance to be

[arctic grove]

I die to vehicles all the time

It's just that I haven't been killed by a stealth heli yet

[fiery shoal]

idk how that scenario plays out but sounds unlikely

[arctic grove]

I die from other shit all the time, just at a really really low proportion of the times I die in total

I generally seem to encounter more nightbirds and transport helicopters, and transports are usually the ones killing me

Something wrong with bf2042? Keep getting placed into lobbies by myself. I restarted the game like 3 times to see if that fixed it but nope

[fiery shoal]

something is either wrong or everyone is playing 24/7 exposure

[arctic grove]

Yep something is wrong. Guess I’ll check back in a few hours

[bronze steeple]

[arctic grove]

People act like vehicles are oppressive and shit. Nahh

[jovial shale]

Why did u just have a 56gb update

[ebon fern]

50gb of fixes? 😳

[fierce solar]

ive neveer hatedvehicles as much as i do in 2042

[ebon fern]

Yeah it blows my mind when you see planes and their physics for example

[arctic grove]

Why do you not like the plane physics

The physics are fine, the balancing is not.

[next onyx]

They're awful in comparison to the older games.

[arctic grove]

Oh boy

[next onyx]

The deadzones are awful too.

[ebon fern]

Did you play god’s bf3 or bf4 planes bro those were the golden days

[arctic grove]

No they weren't

[next onyx]

Bf5 planes despite not possessing speed control were pretty good too shinox.

[ebon fern]

Okay 👍

[next onyx]

But ye bf3 to 4 jets were pretty fucking cool.

[arctic grove]

BFV was the golden era for BF planes. Best physics in the BF series. And they absolutely did have speed control

[ebon fern]

I mean if you liked wheel chair planes yeah

[next onyx]

Alright. The most speed controlling you did were stalling out and slowing down your planes during a strafe.

[arctic grove]

Nah, you just weren't good at it.

The speed control was fantastic, and the dogfighting was especially dynamic

[next onyx]

I played a lot of planes dude. The slower you are the more penalties would incur unto your plane.

The best way was just to fly as fast as possible and hope you had the correct plane to out turn the other.

[ebon fern]

But if you were a topdog dogfighter and like fast paced arcade gameplay the probably previous titles were better

[arctic grove]

This depends on the situation, but if you were stalling out during a strafe, that's a you problem. I've never had that issue, and I've been flying since BF3 on release

[next onyx]

Stalling out getting caught out from nowhere by a wing mounted gun plane.

That's why you want to.

Never implied I stalled out during a strafe.

[arctic grove]

Yeah you did lol

Ohh ohh

Im sorry my bad

[ebon fern]

I mean let’s be real the golden era of dogfight ended when bf5 started

[arctic grove]

But yeah the speed control was pretty good I found, and you could actually fly defensive in BFV. Defensive flying in 3 or 4 was a death trap

[next onyx]

To a degree. I enjoyed bf5's plane combat but it could have been more and better balanced.

[ebon fern]

Yeah bf5 planes had some cool gimmicks but that’s it

[next onyx]

If you want defensive flying just fly in your base and push when the jet came in for a strafe.

Catch them when they're not expecting it.

Air radar makes it a bit difficult for you to sneak up but whatever.

[arctic grove]

BF3 and BF4 planes flew like they were on rails. Way too basic and way too formulaic for my tastes. BFV customization and damage model made things a lot more unpredictable and fun. Also BFV's flight model absolutely blows 3/4 out of the water no competition.

[ebon fern]

Yeah but it’s completely gone in the current title, no awareness whatsoever

[arctic grove]

Defensive flying with regards to dogfighting. Dealing with someone on your six.

[next onyx]

Just out turn them in your jet.

Know the golden number.

313 was it shin?

[arctic grove]

In 3 and 4, I would simply get to my best turning speed (iirc 319?) And just loop around until I got on his six. This was every dogfight. It's boring and too predictable. I hardly every lost a dogfight in 3/4 to a random person.

[next onyx]

An actual skill you can learn. Hell on bf3 you could dodge heatseekers.

[ebon fern]

True the weaponary improved with bf5 planes but physical and skillcieling wise nope

[arctic grove]

BFV's flight model gave pilots a lot more options on how to dogfight.

[next onyx]

What options cause they're pretty similar to what it was back in 3.

[ebon fern]

Yeah stalling and gliding but not my cup of coffee

Fast paced arcade gameplay that’s were it was at

🥺

[next onyx]

I don't mind stalling too much but mhh.

[arctic grove]

Lol no there weren't. Again, defensive flying. If someone was on my 6 in BF3, just out turn them. In BFV, I could do a barrel roll and force the enemy to overshoot. BFV allows for more frequent use of other manouvers because the flight model was simply more dynamic

BF3/4 is so arcady that it's basic and easy.

[next onyx]

That cheap barrel stall trick only works on lower skilled pilots.

[arctic grove]

If that's what you like, so be it. To each their own, but I don't think that was the golden era.

[ebon fern]

Now i jump in a jet and be like fighting against my own jet then others

[arctic grove]

Works on almost everyone I tried it against, but even then, it wasn't the only option

My stance on Bf planes is BFV was by far the best.

But you know, I do prefer something a little more realistic.

So I guess BFV was more my cup tea due to that

[next onyx]

Send rockets into stallers anyways. Past that you might as well rely on aa because it's a long drawn out circle match until another plane on either side comes in.

[ebon fern]

different tastes different opinions

[arctic grove]

Lol long drawn out circle match

That's every pro BF3 or 4 dogfight right there

[ebon fern]

Seems like you didn’t play it much then

[arctic grove]

Ok the competitive dogfight scene on console with those games, that was dogfighting.

[arctic grove]

Cap. I played plenty. Was almost always in a jet in those games

[ebon fern]

Circle around was like 10 year’s ago meta now it’s all about cutting and reading air radar properly

[arctic grove]

Ffs, one of my issues with that game was dogfighting was too predictable and easy. As you said, arcade shit

[ebon fern]

Just saying

[arctic grove]

I'm just saying that's literally what every dogfight was. Speed control and verical/horizontal loops depending on the situation

[ebon fern]

Good old days sadly gone

[arctic grove]

Sadly not

And even then, we already stated why we have our preferences for each game

I prefer BFV because it is more dynamic. You prefer a more basic arcade experience. Nothing wrong with that

[ebon fern]

It’s totally different now days and changed alot just yt some newer clips the meta changed by alot

[arctic grove]

The planes still fly the same, and they have the most basic flight models

It's boring. It's old

Too predictable, too easy

[ebon fern]

Okay 👍

[arctic grove]

The only people I didn't absolutely tear to shreds in seconds were the pros

[ebon fern]

Bro it’s your opinion which is fine

[arctic grove]

I literally just said that

[ebon fern]

I think bf2042 planes have so much potential but the problem is they didn’t even try and that’s the sadest part about it

[arctic grove]

Yeah you still didn't elaborate too much on 2042 jets. God sidetracked by BFV's perfection haha

I hate that 2042 jet spawns are tied to the heli spawns

And 2042 jets are simply not as powerful as the helicopters for air to ground.

[ebon fern]

I can copy my steam review if you want haha

[arctic grove]

Only the jet part pls lol

[ebon fern]

I’d better not 😂

[arctic grove]

Do itttt

[ebon fern]

Ban inc?

😳

[arctic grove]

Dm it to me idk

Why they gonna ban you. Say racial slur or something? Otherwise should be fine. It's okay not to like the game

[ebon fern]

Maybe they read some feed back

[arctic grove]

Bruh it's aight

[ebon fern]

Here is my honest review about the game and the mechanics behind flying jets.

Being a long time Jet Pilot in BF3 and BF4, I'm really hoping others share the sentiment that the Jets in BF2042 and respectively BF3's Portal release are a complete let down.
**
Speed Control**
One of the cornerstones of any new and veteran pilot is speed control. In BF2042 it's simply not there, the Jets turn like trucks and are very slow. They keep the designline of the failed BFV flying which i just can't understand. In the best titles like BF3 and BF4 it was paramount that you controlled your speed in every single turn. A great pilot developed a distinct feel of how a Jet would turn and knows the "sweet-spot" and that would distinguish them alone from amateur jet pilots.

In BF2042 this seems completely destroyed. There is no option for jets to automatically thrust to max speed, and when you try to turn, the Jet's speed crushes dramatically. This makes speed control of a Jet feel INCREDIBLY sluggish, slow and stuck in mud. Pitching up or tapping the pitch-up recenteres your crosshair every tap, which makes you feel you are fighting more against your own jet then others.

FoV and Camera
The FOV of the Jet seems to be locked or not wide enough for a pleasent experience. Since the Jet doesn't revolve around crosshair, but follows it, the Jet's camera really feels weird.

Air Radar for any dogfighter is an neccessity. It shows in realtime other air vehicles that are near your vicinity. BF3 in its original state featured this loadout option for Jets, why has it been removed from Battlefield Portal's rendition? What was portal made for if they changed the old battlefield titles fundamentally...

Well its not all i had to cut it down lol

[fierce solar]

Did this whole jets convo started after I said that I've never hated vehicles in any bf as much as i do in 2042 ? lmao

[ebon fern]

Probably 😉 good to leave some feedback but yeah let’s wait and see

Maybe we wake up a day and suddenly someone hears us

[fierce solar]

is there any rocket launcher in 2042 that doesnt take 10 shots to destory a tank ?

[arctic grove]

Yeah totally disagree with the BFV crap. 2042 jets handle nothing like BFV planes. Like I understand the 2042 hate, but BFV planes were in their own league

[ebon fern]

Nope not supposed to be overpowered i guess jets are more of a taxi atm

[arctic grove]

I agree on the FOV shit though

[ebon fern]

Dude the plane chase chamera option why did they remove it

[arctic grove]

If you fly flight Sims or anything, and want to take a break from that for some arcade fun, BFV is miles better than 3 or 4. If you are a casual, 3 and 4 are fine

I don't like your bit on speed control because I absolutely despised that sweet spot turning mechanic. I thought it was simplistic garbage

It makes no sense from a physics standpoint. It was fun and easy, but just weird

[bright wharf]

y'all having stupid fps drops this patch as well?

i was able to run the game above 70 frames per sec last patch

[frank stratus]

how much fps you getting?

now

?

[bright wharf]

well averaging 50 or so, with heavy drops when around soldiers or when looking at certain props

[frank stratus]

50

be happy you have about 50 fps

[bright wharf]

yeah but 50 is like, the highest i can get when I'm spawning in 😆 then it's downhill

is it because of the shader thing they added?

[frank stratus]

im dealing with 15 fps mostly on some games, and 3 fps on modern time games and i still enjoy it

15 fps is really smooth tbh

[bright wharf]

my man, I had a gtx 660 before I upgraded to a 3060 beast, having this fps is kinda a kick in the nutsack for me xd

[gleaming oracle]

BFV is better than BF3? This has got to be the funniest thing I've heard all year

[frank stratus]

tf

?

[gleaming oracle]

I didn't say it was, BF3 is king

[frank stratus]

can someone translate this sentence from BS to English?

[noble scaffold]

bro what are the chances of going on breakthrough solo and getting breakaway 6 times in a row

[gleaming oracle]

Can you read? I was replying to someone that said 5 is better than 3

[frank stratus]

ik

i can see and read

[arctic grove]

Depends on what you are looking for but yeah, BFV planes are way better than 3.

[ebon fern]

It’s one of a good previous title had its flaws but BF3/4/5 is an absolute good base to build an good battlefield on, i just don’t understand why they are always trying to reinvent the wheel 🛞

[arctic grove]

If you like basic bitch easy dogshit flying, BF3 is great

[gleaming oracle]

Oh my bad then I don't use vehicles so I wouldn't know about that

[frank stratus]

who cares about using vehicles properly just have a wack time playing the damn game

[gleaming oracle]

Run & Gun that's how I play...Footsoldier

[frank stratus]

same

i dont sweat

i dont play comp

i just take it casually

[arctic grove]

I do that in 2042

[frank stratus]

even if it is 0-35

[arctic grove]

In BF3 I only flew planes.

Same for V

[gleaming oracle]

I just play for fun don't take it serious it's only a game

[frank stratus]

fr

[gleaming oracle]

I hate been in lobby's where people don't PTFO and all they do is camp in vehicles in there own base and blast the shit outta you

[gleaming oracle]

For me 2042 is the best entry to run and gun since 3/4

[arctic grove]

Absolutely

I fucking love the gunplay

[gleaming oracle]

It's miles better now than it was! Still can't decide what AR to stick with...can't wait for the AN94

[tacit sphinx]

ak24

honestly i’ve been using the close combat rounds on the bsv and it’s fun

but the AK is probably my favourite AR to use

[fiery shoal]

i finally got hp extended mag for BSV, shits busted

before using it i was probably going 40-20, now im consistently going 50/60-20

[arctic grove]

I use the MP9

I love Sundance

Honestly I think 2042 is the best run and gun bf

[fiery shoal]

i feel like the only weapons worth using over the BSV are smgs, just because they are slightly better under 20m

everything else would just fall under "why not use BSV instead" (outside of long range sniping)

[gleaming oracle]

Hits like a fuckin truck! I got tier 1 then stopped using

[fierce solar]

the gun balance is fucking trash

[fiery shoal]

id say only the bsv is insanely out of line of other weapons, other than that the sfar and k30/mp9 might be a LITTLE too good for their intended ranges

[arctic grove]

Man the MP9 is fine

[gleaming oracle]

There is so little choice of weapon atm everybody is using the same weapon! MP9 is my fav SMG, AK my fav AR

[fierce solar]

also being forced to play with kbm players isnt helping

[gleaming oracle]

Sundance was a beast on exposure BT

[fiery shoal]

tbf every bf game turns into 90% of people using the same 5 guns

[tacit sorrel]

The first shotgun should hit like a truck in cqc tbh

[gleaming oracle]

That is a one shot kill no?

[fiery dawn]

You can turn off cross-platform you know

[arctic grove]

I'm conquest guy

[fierce solar]

Yeah and never find a single game

thats why i said im forced to play with it

[fiery dawn]

🤷‍♂️

[arctic grove]

Stop being shit

[gleaming oracle]

I like conquest but BT is amazing...can't wait for rush to get added to aow

[arctic grove]

Problem solved

I love fighting the kbm weaklings

[gleaming oracle]

I play the PS4 version On PS5 so I only play against consoles

[tacit sorrel]

It’s very inconsistent

[arctic grove]

Get PS5 version

[gleaming oracle]

Plus I prefer 64 player conquest 128 there's too much going on

[gleaming oracle]

I got both

[arctic grove]

64p is lame

I don't like it

Too slow

[gleaming oracle]

It's what I'm used to...too many heads running about with 128 lol

[arctic grove]

To each their own

[tacit sorrel]

64 is classic

[gleaming oracle]

They changed all layouts on maps for BT to the 128 layouts with 64 players so I fucked off back to ps4 version lol

[tacit sorrel]

That’s seems dumb must b really empty feeling

Kinda wish there was a specialist with an enemy gadget reveal trait

[arctic grove]

I generally prefer conquest because it's open and gives more options to flank

Breakthrough is eh. Especially now that it's only 64 players.

[fierce solar]

Correction, you can find a game with crossplay turned off, its just everyone is ai ;b

[arctic grove]

Cap

I get full lobbies 6/10 times

And when it's a lot of ai, it fills up quickly

[drowsy shuttle]

no, conquest actually makes people spawn behind you... the front line is everywhere.

[arctic grove]

Yes it's unpredictable and great

Ide do more bt if it was a clusterfuck of 120 players like it used to be. But now nahhh

[drowsy shuttle]

i don't really wanna get killed by a scrub that his "skill" was getting spawned behind me

its free flank

in breakthrought at least you have to work for it

(altough even in breakthrough the spawns are not perfect... yet)

[arctic grove]

Man I think you just die a lot

People spawn far enough for me to adapt

[royal trail]

a mode where people only can spawn at base camp would be cool

[frigid cairn]

Y’all gotta get used to jumping from helis and big towers

[drowsy shuttle]

me? not really... i kill more than i die... specially in conquest... but those times i die, its usually people spawning behind me... but anyway, i always prefer breakthrough.. since bf5. Altough best battlefield game mode was BF5 Frontlines. but anyway

[fierce solar]

im towards the end of game and there are 3 peopel in my team tahts not ai and 4 in the enemy team, rest is the bots

[frigid cairn]

“Free” flanks right there but literally anyone can do it

[open tangle]

Paik isn’t ugly

[arctic grove]

I do it all the time

[frigid cairn]

Paik was never ugly lol

[open tangle]

In general chat several people said she was ugly

And they could’ve picked a better looking Asian female

[frigid cairn]

They watch too much p*rn

[drowsy shuttle]

maybe the person that designed Paik is also ugly...

[frigid cairn]

What

[arctic grove]

No she isn't hahahahah

Pretty gorgeous actually

[tidal hare]

sorry paik is ugly

why is her face so... round

[hexed mango]

compared to concept art she is

i don’t think she by herself is ugly, but i think we missed out on what she could of been

same for falck

[uneven belfry]

what is the bsvm setup that iam dying to every single time

[gleaming oracle]

Short barrel full auto HP extended/close combat rounds

[tacit sphinx]

i mean it shows you the loadout on the right side of the kill cam

[uneven belfry]

so witch grip?

[gleaming oracle]

Probably the one that improves ads accuracy

[arctic grove]

I told people EA was going to do this to Lis lmao! https://twitter.com/bfbulletin/status/1546492784315699201?s=21&t=AxEs8dPfK0WZV-2KG2mOwA

Who idea was it anyway to make it 400 kills with the trash G-84 to top it off you only get two rockets and it reloads slow asf

[next onyx]

Paik has a literal allergic reaction.

[hexed mango]

treenuts

[hexed mango]

skill issue

[rugged osprey]

Lol

[uneven belfry]

2 of em 1 for 90 kills the other one better for 270

[gleaming oracle]

The small stubby thing is what I use can't remember the name

[arctic grove]

Not a skill issue the c5 does more damage than the G-84

[hexed mango]

just get better with it, easy solution to an easy problem

[tame vine]

Exactly
Most of the current models actually look great in the renders, it's just the lighting ingame that makes them look different

[arctic grove]

I’m better than you.

[hexed mango]

not with lis i guess

[gleaming oracle]

Gotta be honest I ain't used lis at all

[fierce solar]

if i turn off crossplay i will find servers for xbox only or no?

[arctic grove]

Lis useless on the ground so that’s not a flex

[hexed mango]

yes thats how crossplay works

[gleaming oracle]

Yes

[hexed mango]

useless if you're bad with her, yes

[arctic grove]

No useless in general.

[next onyx]

Lis's mastery is a bit bullshit.

Anyone can just steal your kills and considering the recharge on that thing just forget about it.

[uncut bay]

yep

should be destroys and assists

[gleaming oracle]

It will get changed

[uncut bay]

the way it is now only encourages kill stealing

[arctic grove]

Exactly

[hexed mango]

• forced crashes

[acoustic island]

I would like lis more if the rocket was more controlable on controller

[next onyx]

It would be cool if she in general just needed destroys and assists.

So you can run c5 and work off that.

[gleaming oracle]

Kills on infantry would also be nice

[acoustic island]

Yep

[next onyx]

Mhh considering her passive I wouldn't mind it if it were just destroys and assists on vehicles.

You can use anything. Just as long as you destroy the vehicle.

I want to give her a go but her mastery is genuinely infuriating.

[gleaming oracle]

If infantry counted aswell just up the number from 400 to 800 or something

[acoustic island]

Trying to kill people with the g84 is hard so progression would be rewarding

[next onyx]

Mhh infantry is easy.

[acoustic island]

Standing still yeah

[next onyx]

You'd have to do 2400 infantry kills for it.

Or even 3000.

[arctic grove]

Kills and assist should count

[gleaming oracle]

It's not a normal weapon so 2400 is abit much

All other specialists are 1200

[acoustic island]

Maybe 750

[hexed mango]

this is gonna be a challenge

[next onyx]

Only Mackay has infantry kills and he is specific..

You do realise how easy is it to amass a large portion of kills right.

[arctic grove]

Exposure should have a earthquake

[next onyx]

1200 normal kills is nothing.

[arctic grove]

Mid match

[acoustic island]

How about a land slide that knocks off c sector

Or both

[arctic grove]

Yeah something like that

[tame cobalt]

Battlefart twenty farty two

Kaleido hype

[hexed mango]

im so far at 14/800 Tuk-Tuk kills/assists

[open tangle]

In what city is kaleidoscope

[hexed mango]

Kaesong

actually idk

somewhere here

[acoustic island]

I wonder if they’ll ever do weather effects again

Other than rain

And I wonder if they will have a destruction feedback loop

[silk surge]

Wait until you end up in my lobby. I've gotten like 4 angry DMs on PSN over my stealth heli usage.

[fiery shoal]

i just dont think a modern setting is conducive to destruction, bf1/v didnt have skyscrapers to destroy, it was a bunch of smaller buildings

[acoustic island]

Bf4 was modern and had a good amount

You could level a good amount of buildings and collapse some roads

[tidal hare]

problem is concrete is concrete

and we have steel reinforced concrete

look at the portal bc2 maps

they certainly can add destruction

(and hourglass)

[ivory rampart]

I cant purchase the Battlepass ingame ;O?

[tame cobalt]

Are tornados removed?

[sweet barn]

there is not enough cover on maps
we want destruction, level all buildings so there is no cover

[acoustic island]

@tame cobalt no

[tame cobalt]

How bout both

[tidal hare]

you can't have both

[tame cobalt]

[tidal hare]

you either have destruction and less static cover

[acoustic island]

Yeah you can

[tidal hare]

or more static cover and less destruction

[tame cobalt]

bc2 had both

[tidal hare]

because destruction will introduce destroyable cover

sorry i dont think bc2 have enough static cover

[ivory rampart]

doesnt seem to be working

[tidal hare]

when everyone in their momma is running explosive

[tame cobalt]

Then make it like bc2 but with a bit more static cover

[next onyx]

I did like how on bf5 you could rebuild soft cover.

[open tangle]

Is that a thing? Tuktuk mastery loool

[tame cobalt]

Even in portal you can see the bc2 destruction is really dope.

[fiery dawn]

Sounds like such a pain

[silk surge]

I love the amount of people thinking the season 1 end countdown confirms season 2 start date. Has anyone ever heard of off-seasons?

[tidal hare]

but some people hated it

i personally do like reinforcement

[next onyx]

It added without taking away anything that was the best part.

[tidal hare]

but for 2042 we aint gonna pour concrete, but sandbags are a bit old

[open tangle]

There were matches when all I did was build stuff xD

[tidal hare]

oh yeah

me too

[next onyx]

True though they can still help.

[acoustic island]

You could add more trucks or tanks or shipping containers

[fiery shoal]

i hate your new pfp

[next onyx]

I love it.

[open tangle]

Nft monke

[next onyx]

I stole it.

[tidal hare]

it would be fun if we can control the cranes and do some wacky stuff with containers

[next onyx]

And I couldn't be anymore proud.

[tidal hare]

but then it would be interacting with environment in a big way

and probably a pain in the ass to code and debug

[silk surge]

Because it reminds you of a bad investment you made?

[fiery shoal]

nah i dont touch nfts, crypto, stocks

[silk surge]

Why? Don't you wanna get rich fast like Elon Musk?

[hexed mango]

that's not entirely how he got rich

[fiery shoal]

im fine with a modest life

[next onyx]

Dude was lucky because of nepotism and other things which well... best not get into it.

[hexed mango]

plus, having too much is too much

[mental delta]

NFT and crypto guys are basically the same lol

[fiery dawn]

NFTs are stupid af

[silk surge]

NFT is a scam.

[acoustic island]

Yep

[hexed mango]

screenshot it ez

wear this proudly i will

[next onyx]

I dunno what to think that a joke pfp got nyphon to pop up from lurking.

[acoustic island]

Butttt with a 500,000+ purchase your Twitter profile can be octogonal

[next onyx]

He must of hated it so much he popped out of nowhere.

[hexed mango]

technically you can do it for free

[silk surge]

There's some rich dipshit out there who bought an NFT for almost $100m.

[hexed mango]

yeah that's a bozo move

[mental delta]

"Smoking depressing monkey, it's worth it trust me bro you'll be rich bro"

[silk surge]

Isn't those monkey NFTs dirt cheap? Like $2?

[hexed mango]

ok.

[hexed mango]

fyi: this is how it spawned me in

[mental delta]

Now maybe yes idk, but a few months ago they were still really expensive

[acoustic island]

Try spawning as a jet when the game starts in manifest

[hexed mango]

is it the same thing?

acts like vtol, and im facing the wrong way

[silk surge]

Apparently the blockchain that had them got hacked, and now they're worth almost nothing.

[acoustic island]

On the us side it runs you into the hill

[fiery dawn]

Yeah they changed something with the air vehicle spawns where they cut all power at the beginning and there's a delay before your forward input is registered or something it's kind of annoying. Never seen it that bad though

[hexed mango]

lmao

[hexed mango]

rip

and i was on US, and it spawned me on the RU side.... weird

[fiery dawn]

I was on Discarded last night and spawned in a heli and it flew me into the side of one of the rusted out ships

[mental delta]

[fiery dawn]

Because it spawned me right in front of it and with no power even though I was holding W

[mental delta]

They got what they deserved

Scamming people with expensive useless shit only leads to a big karma slap in the face

[arctic grove]

I like your NFT pfp

[sharp marten]

Petition for them to add a flame thrower to 2042

[next onyx]

@arctic grove Thank you.

[wide shore]

Flankerz

[foggy halo]

You like cursed stuff

[hexed mango]

petition to invoke warcrimes

[wide shore]

I will always advocate for flamethrowers

[fiery shoal]

mmm pkp on big flanks is