battlefield-2042

[queen violet]

Might start to ban players 😂😂😂😂

[foggy halo]

look at manifest lol

[random iron]

nah that map is garbage

[foggy halo]

lol

[queen violet]

https://youtu.be/VZ_hxDi908Y il be gettin a few years soon.. lmao. I think i teabag 85% .. have done for ever. Lol

Old bf1 .. that was a good game

Waking up next morning reading my emails . Police.. oh. No tea baggin. Hahaha. Ffs. Int life great .. 2022. Lol

[arctic grove]

LMAO imagine if dice started banning cheaters first instead of bothering with tea bags.

[zealous patio]

@coarse falcon @viscid bone @brazen breach cant play Exodus CQ at PS5 everytime gives matchmaking error

[arctic grove]

Dashboard and log in

[zealous patio]

Dashboard ?

[arctic grove]

Reset the game

[queen violet]

Balls hittin head.. boom . 10 day ban. .. i can see it now

[zealous patio]

I did close it and reopen it

[still vault]

!!r9 @zealous patio Don't tag people like that. Thank you.

[tender pendant]

Do not abuse user mentions/pings. Do not tag EA/DICE & other elevated roles in the sidebar unless they're actively engaged in chat. You may tag Discord server staff when a situation demands urgency in action (i.e. bot raid, adult content, etc.). When possible, DM <@&344231949725990915> for moderation related enquiries.

[arctic grove]

Oh

lmao

Thanks carbonic

[zealous patio]

Sorry, i tought its an important issue

[zealous patio]

Wont happen again

[zealous patio]

Same :/

[pastel current]

you will get the error ever if you restart the game

[hallow sierra]

idk which players are the worst bfv players or 2042 players

[queen violet]

Ffs. Flys. In my room. Landing on tv. I keep shooting them. Thinkin. There others players. 😂

[calm bison]

I’m in like for a roller coaster in 90 degree weather (Fahrenheit) and some fuckwit is leaving a 29 foot gap in the line

Oh thank Christ

He moved

I’m sweatier than the dudes in top gun

[queen violet]

Id be sweating aswell.. war in 2 years 😂 top-gun new recruitments

[main escarp]

I can’t deal with the map rotation anymore

[hexed mango]

where you at

[hexed mango]

deal with it

[main escarp]

Discarded 24/7

dEaL wITh It

[hexed mango]

skill issue

[main escarp]

yeah, clicking the play now button takes a lot of skill

Any other galaxy brain takes?

[calm bison]

Popular theme park in tampa

[hallow sierra]

how many players dat play bfv

[hexed mango]

I am in popular park in santa cruz

[hard eagle]

Jesus. Have dice acknowledged about the stuff with attachment unlocks ?

[hexed mango]

#battlefield-legacy-titles moment

[hexed mango]

joe biden

[calm bison]

The park is owned by that one company that is largely known for that one document about killer whales

[hard eagle]

Theres like 15 different attachments ive yet to get

[hexed mango]

i see

[hexed mango]

then just get them back way

[hard eagle]

End quote

[hexed mango]

thanks

[hard eagle]

The final ones

The 330/330 kills attachments

[hexed mango]

cone

[hard eagle]

They stay locked no matter what

[old echo]

I lost 20 fps with the newest update

Anyone has same issue?

[next onyx]

It's some new caching.

Should take a bit.

[silk surge]

I feel like 1.1 brought back more bugs than fixes.

[next onyx]

Welcome to the live service cycle.

[foggy halo]

live service

[next onyx]

I don't mean to be rude but it was like this during bf5 as well.

[silk surge]

Like, there are so many bugs that I haven't seen since launch that made a return in this update.

[next onyx]

Ads bug being one of them.

[uncut bay]

yeah same tbh

[next onyx]

Which shouldn't be in the game at all.

[uncut bay]

death bug is back, you die but can still move your corpse until someone kills you again

[next onyx]

I haven't been playing a whole lot so I really haven't experienced much.

[silk surge]

We Warzone now

[old echo]

It's funny I used to run the game in 4K around 70 fps, now it's 40-50

[uncut bay]

i mean tbf you are running 4k

[old echo]

Unplayable

[next onyx]

Try lowering some settings.

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1545350302655709185

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin)

PSA for PC players ⚠️

DICE made changes to Shader Caching to improve game performance in Update 1.1. Do not delete the #Battlefield2042 "cache" folder, ensuring it's "full read/write" access. If your documents folder is automatically syncing with OneDrive, disable the sync.

Likes

248

Twitter · Jul 8, 2022, 10:13 AM

I've gotten the drop too.

[old echo]

Funny that they always ask us to do things

[hard eagle]

Would have been great if thet asked us about implementation of class system too

[next onyx]

I hit a bit of a memory leak as well but I'm waiting on actual word.

[queen violet]

Ah..! Make the possible possible 😂

[old echo]

And battlefield 3 literally dead in win11

[subtle imp]

how so?

[arctic grove]

play bf4. It has good support on pc

[old echo]

Directx error

[subtle imp]

thats a you problem then, cuz ive played bf3 in win11 with no issues

[old echo]

I tried everything, none of them worked

[open tangle]

What’s better lcmg or pkp

[still vault]

The fun is testing yourself 🙂

[calm bison]

Geek squad moment

[still vault]

I could give a non-answer and say they are quite different and I consider them both the best depending on playstyle.

[old echo]

I got ultimate skins for both, and if you play a lot of fps games, I think you will like pkp

[open tangle]

I need to use one for the weekly challenge

[plain marlin]

Use the pkp

[hexed mango]

lcmg

hehehehahw

i personally like the lcmg more but it’s all based on personal choice

[warm crater]

what do they mean by lcmg mastering

I got enough kills to unlock all attachments

[hexed mango]

LCMG is gun, mastery is 1200 kills for T1

[warm crater]

it won’t let me use the attachments

[hexed mango]

skill issue

[foggy halo]

Wow the tank superiority mode is really good

And fun

[hexed mango]

i concur

good to farm Lis

[open tangle]

Have no attechment on both and having tried both without attachments just now I prefer the lcmg cos at least I can’t control it

[buoyant oriole]

im looking for some help, thought i would come here, firstly i can't play breakthrough the game takes me to renewal and back to lobby constantly. i tried playing exposure and then it took me to the map andd loaded it in but my mouse and keyboard wont respond. i can jump, aim and fire with mouse but i can't move my mouse as in direction and non of the other keys work on the keyboard.

any help?

[chilly jacinth]

restart

[plain marlin]

Destroy the keyboard

[trail kelp]

seems like some game modes are down, and also a bit laggy

happened the same to me with the loading issues

[zealous patio]

We need a Bug Report section in discord.

[hidden sand]

Should really only be repair tool only imo though

[sharp marten]

Hey @hexed mango remember when we were talking about the guns coming to AOW tbh why not just add the vehicles as well?

[arctic grove]

everytime i try to get on exposure 24/7 it switches me to regular conquest

[primal furnace]

Hi
Anybody keeps getting kick back to lobby constantly, after 30 seconds to a few minutes in the game?
I experience this after the latest update 1.1.0

[zealous patio]

@primal furnace me

[arctic grove]

my missions just restarted itself lol

[primal furnace]

Yes also inside Battlefield game, and status on servers like operation status

[zealous patio]

@primal furnace im not sure who we need to talk tho devs or dc mods ? Bug Report section would be really nice in Discord.

[sweet barn]

use the ea forums to report issues/bugs this is not tech support server

[zealous patio]

ea forum is not functioning very well tho

[open tangle]

Best theme in the game imo 🙂 I love listening to it so much.

[arctic grove]

idk why my mission reset its stats

[hexed mango]

they might but idk, some really outdated (even by today standards) tech that they probably wouldn’t want to use, which is probably why they’re using the F35 instead of the super hornet

[slow terrace]

Shipping Forecast

[arctic grove]

Ayyy nice a fellow clown

[foggy halo]

I’ve almost unlocked the gold thing

Pog

[mystic loom]

Is breakthrough broken? after finding the game it takes me back to main menu lol

[edgy oriole]

pay attention to the map its doing it to you with and cancel queue if it tries to put you in the same map. prolly a broken lobby

[violet meteor]

[silk surge]

I finally find a 3p takedown that I like... and the animation is BUGGED!! DICE PLS

[plucky pebble]

I mean atleast youcan do the takedown mine just stabs

[forest snow]

getting very bored of being put on absolute trash teams

[still vault]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[arctic grove]

I’m still having problems with that as well on PS5

I straight up don't do it anymore

Ide rather shoot

I think one of the only rewards laid up for doing a lot anyways is a title forbid they make even 1 takedown a weekly though

[arctic grove]

I think the A10 and Frogfoot will be good additions, and portal has the infantry fighting vehicles so those too

Not happening; I see 2 possible solutions for this problem

AI models will be used for an alternative class/gadget (and or) locked system you can play instead of a specialist, granting you two gadget slots. Disadvantage is just you don’t get to do anything any of the specialists do but I don’t know how many people would really care.

Unlikely because that might hurt revenue from paid skins

Or 2, those models will serve as the future basis of the specialists unlockable and paid customization if they don’t just straight up become paid customization options

Dice really cares about the specialists but a lot of people really care about how much of a long shot it is for the franchise so we just gotta see how their system is changed in the future

[bronze steeple]

Specialist are great dude

[arctic grove]

Then go play bf1/V

You act like you can’t or something

[tranquil turtle]

I highly doubt an ai skin will become a specialist

[arctic grove]

No not a specialist I meant a whole like

[tranquil turtle]

The closest thing to that would be a separate mode where players could play as the ai and use their classes

[arctic grove]

‘Default’ and traditional class choice you can select in the same place as your specialists

[bronze steeple]

Skill issue

[arctic grove]

He indeed has major skill issue

[bronze steeple]

👆

[arctic grove]

That or 2042 ai classes in portal

Which is a suggestion I’ve heard a lot and I mean it makes sense

[bronze steeple]

Played rush first time today portal kinda fun actualy

[arctic grove]

The only thing im worried about is how much fixing and adding things that aren’t as much features as they are simply needed adjustments and changes will get in the way of potentially new inspired content, idk though

I agree with that as well

[spare quest]

there's a new broken shotgun loadout

use it as long as you can

[hushed seal]

not sure if this is the right channel for this but is anyone else having issues with game performance on PC?

[spare quest]

it gets worse each update

get used to it

[foggy halo]

Specialists and classes are amongst the smallest problems, if you consider them problems of the game

[arctic grove]

You’re good, you can usually find help here but def try out #technology as well

[foggy halo]

The maps are really bad and have no emotion

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah I know, just talking about that guys point was all

[foggy halo]

That’s a big problem

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-23428142

[arctic grove]

The real problems aren’t animations or skins, just maps and guns. And performance

[hushed seal]

i'll try over there, thanks

[arctic grove]

Npnp

[spare quest]

red dead redemption 2 on ultra runs better than 2042 on low settings for me

[foggy halo]

Lmao and it doesn’t even look better

[spare quest]

man even bf1 looks better than 2042

[foggy halo]

Lol

[hushed seal]

yeah this is brutal, im on a 3060ti and can't get consistent framerates at all

frames dropping literally every 5 seconds and game not reading my inputs

[arctic grove]

Maybe this can help?

I play on console so I have no idea myself

[spare quest]

i had more than 60fps in the beta, but it went lower each update

and i have a shitty laptop

[hushed seal]

interesting, maybe playing maps multiple times will help

thanks for the heads up

[spare quest]

im always getting better fps in portal gamemodes

[fathom crane]

When does the next battlefield drop?

[vivid nacelle]

my fps are shit too after the last update, this is fucked up. Can't play BT anymore, and it's the only mode I play in bf2042 so

[hexed mango]

just play rush ez

i have a code for an exposure rush server

[timid latch]

for some reason my portal loudouts keep resetting

is there anyone else who also experiences this bug

[forest snow]

2023

[hexed mango]

not announced

[spare quest]

there's a new broken shotgun loadout!

not in a bad way

[spare quest]

all of my settings went to default after the last update, maybe you just have to change some stuff

[ivory rampart]

runs damn fine for me, like day and night difference from Beta ;D

[hushed seal]

its ridiculous that i had to go in and add a folder to make the game playable but at least its running smooth now

[sour meadow]

bruh every game of noshahr has been one sided

[chilly jacinth]

it should've already been there

unless you deleted it

[drowsy shuttle]

what you mean add a folder? when you install the game it automatically creates the battlefield folder in your documents (with the cache folder inside too)

[ivory rampart]

is it supposed to look like this?

gg snip doesnt work

oh I cant paste

[chilly jacinth]

no idea what you're talking about

[coarse creek]

I hit 200 points in breakthrough for the first time!!! No vehicles

[naive sedge]

Over the last 30 years of playing shooters, and save for one absolutely horrible CoD, I don't think I've ever said "fuck this piece of shit game" more times than I have here

with this gem

[warm crater]

this game is fucking with me

AS SOON AS I JOIN I LOSE

FUCK THIS GAME

[sharp terrace]

Just play solo

[warm crater]

nobody wants to play with bots

unless if ur grinding attachments

but oh my god I’m losing hope for this game

[sharp terrace]

Season ends in 54 days

52*

[gilded falcon]

Hello! Is anybody having an issue finding the new updates scope after unlocking it?

TARGET BT 1.25x-4.5x

[tacit sphinx]

yeah it doesn’t work properly on most guns

you can try it out on the vcar and the sfar, it works on them and you can unlock + equip it properly

[gilded falcon]

Oh interesting, I'm surprised there isn't more posts about this. New addition and it not working... oh well

Thank you for the reply, I thought we were going crazy lol

[gaunt yoke]

Most peiople have given up

[gilded falcon]

That's a shame!

[tacit sphinx]

i imagine it went under a lot of people’s radar, it wasn’t mentioned specifically that we were getting a new optic + honestly i’m not 100% on if it was intended to be enabled in this patch

[gaunt yoke]

Not even a surprise that they can't even implement a scope at this point

What Dr says is interesting

But that's a fucking big fucky wucky

[tacit sphinx]

it worked fine with the PSO 5x scope in the season 1 update, i suspect there’s some technical things they want to iron out regarding canted iron sights and bipods because trying to use both is going to either make the bipod useless, or be be very uncomfortable

the two guns that it works properly on are the two guns that have the PSO but no bipod available

[gaunt yoke]

Canted Irons should just be unusable while mounted up

That's nto a hard think

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i think more just implementing that so it doesn’t get janky with the bipod deploying on surfaces while you’re aiming especially with the canted sights

[gaunt yoke]

Force an optic switch when you mount while in canted

[tacit sphinx]

since there’s not really been any information on it i’m not sure where it went wrong - are we supposed to be able to use it or not etc

[gaunt yoke]

Where did any of it go wrong lmao

[willow sky]

whats that loadout?

[arctic grove]

hes prolly talking ab the 12m drum short barrell

[willow sky]

oh that one has already been a thing

[arctic grove]

maybe theres a different one

id assume it would have to be the #00 buckshot or #01 buckshot on the other shotgun

[hallow sierra]

they should rename bfv to cfv(campfield v) cuz all players in dat game do is camp

[arctic grove]

Can i remove an attachment slot so i dont have to scroll through 3 different things?

i just want to barrel attachments damnit

[vestal grove]

Yes you can

[arctic grove]

how

im on ps5

That’s your first mistake

haha

are there any other guns confirmed coming to 2042?

[hallow sierra]

no

well i give 2042 one thing is dat at least they dont have players dat camp like campfieldv

[arctic grove]

na people definitely camp in 2042, but tbf its not cod so i mean its more strategic in battlefield games

[iron thistle]

I like how there excuse for not including an all talk text chat for pc was that itd be too crazy for 128 player servers yet we still dont even have it for 64 player servers. Whether its telling someone on the otherside nice shot or making fun of that tank camper you just killed you should be able to communicate with the otherside. Not everyones a winner

[hallow sierra]

but campfield v does it next level where even level 100s is camp one spot

[arctic grove]

i agree, feels weird not being able to communicate with the other team

[iron thistle]

Literally feels like im playing against souless ai

[arctic grove]

and also the whole team in general, but i didnt know console players couldnt text chat

[arctic grove]

yea honestly bro

[iron thistle]

they can they just tend not to

[hallow sierra]

yea we dont

[slender gull]

Was playing rush, we ran out of tickets but had the final objective planted, and...

It just didn't explode. 😐

[arctic grove]

theres voice chat with console squad members though right?

[iron thistle]

ya

[arctic grove]

i had some dude in my squad screaming and he was on console and i had to turn it off instantly lmao

it would be dope to have voice chat from the whole team, imagine that

the callouts would be cool asf id be so immersed every game

[iron thistle]

I miss the sense of community past games had too with community servers and what not.

now i get thrown into a random lobby with 3 of my friends tops

[arctic grove]

lmfao yea its definitely different

[slender gull]

Yeah, a lack of server browser hurts the game more then EA seems to think.

[iron thistle]

most the time i dont even want to play the map they put us on

[slender gull]

I'm sure DICE would love to put one in, but...gotta follow the orders of the fallen king.

[arctic grove]

ive just been sitting in exodus conquest or whatever its called because i love the bad company 2 maps

[iron thistle]

exactly and i hate when they give me the new maps in that playlist

the 64 player past maps play so much better than 2042s imo

[arctic grove]

right, all those old maps have so much nostalgia even if the game isnt amazing, still very fun

i wish they would add more old maps and keep it a permanent playlist

[iron thistle]

Dice is scared to combine portal and 2042 because they spent alot of effort working to make them seperate

which is dumb bc 99% of the weapons from bf4 could be in 2042 considering its only 20 years in the future according to canon

[arctic grove]

the player base wouldve been insane if they wouldve included bf4 stuff

[iron thistle]

eh portals dead tbh

[arctic grove]

really? i havent really touched it

seemed fun but never got to it

[iron thistle]

Ya i check the server browser occasionally bc i like playing with the old equipment/classes and my server browser might show me 100 people playing total on servers with a viable ping

most the time its just the milsim servers with 100% damage tho

[arctic grove]

right, thats one thing i noticed. seemed all the active servers had way too high ping for me to even touch

[iron thistle]

Ya portal was a good idea on paper but realistically no one wants to play the same 2 ww2 maps with the same equipment and 0 stat progress. Same goes for the bc2 content and bf3. Its cool for a couple rounds of nostalgia but thats really it imo

[arctic grove]

yea thats exactly how i felt, why touch a mode that you gain nothing but nostalgia from? especially if youre grinding the specialist and weapons in 2042 just for you not to be able to use them in half of the portal servers

[iron thistle]

BF Community servers > Portal

[arctic grove]

A lot

[iron thistle]

Ik theyre reworking some of the portal guns to put them into 2042 for season 1

thats all im aware of tho

[arctic grove]

no way!? is there a video on it or something? i would love to see what they are

[arctic grove]

i really hope thats the case

There’s 6 datamined (temporyal on Twitter posted them around December I think) and you’ve got that on top of whatever the future holds and reworked Portal guns

[arctic grove]

They said it themselves they’re working out the portal guns for AOW

[iron thistle]

As i said earlier really didnt make sense for 2042 to have all original weapons considering its only 20 years into the future. Most modern weapons in combat are atleast 20 years old

[arctic grove]

That’s just what’s adopted on a mass scale into armies

hope they bring some of those bc2 weapons in, love the bsv just because of the vss from bc2

Over the course of two plus decades

[iron thistle]

idk sounds unlikely houses in 20 years will look like minimalistic apple stores and modern militaries will have completely reworked arsenals

just seemed like an ambitious stretch to me

[arctic grove]

Lol that’s just map design

That doesn’t have anything to do with guns and logic concerning those

[iron thistle]

Ok playing into 2042s logic if the world is ending why would they suddenly start mass producing new weapons instead of using the ones that already existed. According to renewals lore a ton of the world cant even eat

[arctic grove]

The SIG Spear is already being adopted into the US military m8

[iron thistle]

Aks m4s ars m9s you name it all 20 plus years old

[arctic grove]

You’ll see them in game

Just read the gun descriptions in the menu

M5A3 standard service rifle since the 2030s meaning it’s already been available at the numbers to supply entire combat units

[iron thistle]

Im js the initial approach of seperating 2042s map design / weapons from bf4s soley bc its 20 years into the future doesnt make sense

now theyre reworking and including the portal weapons bc they went back on the inital approach

[arctic grove]

We’re talking about guns

Not maps

[iron thistle]

sure

[arctic grove]

Logically speaking yeah none of it makes sense, who cares

[iron thistle]

It just sucks theyre now realizing that doesnt make sense and that theyre just now reworking the portal weapons instead of having them to begin with

[arctic grove]

If I can fly an F35 it’s easy to suspect there’s plenty of sig spears to go around

They’re reworking portal guns into AOW because there isn’t a large selection as it is… not because realism or logic

[iron thistle]

They wouldnt put the ww2 weapons into the game due to logic now would they ?

[arctic grove]

I just want a garand

That’s about the only ww2 gun I care about in AOW

[iron thistle]

Im saying considering theyre only reworking bc2s and bf3s guns and not the ww2 guns its based in actual reality and logic

[arctic grove]

We don’t know what they’re reworking exactly tbh

[iron thistle]

Theyre clearly not going to put stock ww2 weapons into the game

[arctic grove]

But I mean if I’m playing a modern shooter I’d prefer just modern guns. I don’t care if it’s 20-30 yrs old or being introduced right now

[iron thistle]

if they do theyll be heavily modified

[arctic grove]

That’s about where realism and logic ends

[iron thistle]

Idrc about realism im just going off the lore they provided bf4 took place in 2022 and 2042 is only 20 years into the future

[arctic grove]

You can add bc2 and bf3 guns sure, HKs and SPAS will still be in plenty of armories, doesn’t mean the game shouldn’t add new takes on guns in the near future setting because that’s “unrealistic”

[violet meteor]

It's because you didn't give them enough money

[iron thistle]

Well 100% of the guns at launch were new and that just didnt make sense all im saying

[violet meteor]

The fault is yours

[arctic grove]

I didn’t care about it, it’s 2042 so reasonably the guns aren’t going to be similar to what’s out now

Either that or it’s a really modified version of it

[iron thistle]

Except its not reasonable tho bc most weapons used in combat are 20 plus years old

[arctic grove]

Standard service weapons of the current US and RU inventories are being phased out

[violet meteor]

Rip m4

[arctic grove]

M4 is legendary keep it until 2100

RU has been looking for one rifle for a long time lol

[plucky pebble]

I think they already use a new version of the ak

[arctic grove]

I’m sure in a war economy both the US and RU can pump out tens of thousands of sig spears and ak24s, just saying

[iron thistle]

Like i said using the lore they provided. It doesnt make sense for the world to be ending in 2042 and within that 20 year span between 4 and then they adopted completely new armorments

and architecture apparently

[arctic grove]

The logic behind it is so simple though, it’s creativity, it’s near future; use a version of, or a gun that your factions are working on or adopting now

[iron thistle]

Inventing new guns in an apocolypse

[arctic grove]

The sig spear

Is a real gun

In 2022

[iron thistle]

seems a bit knitpickky

[arctic grove]

The AK24 is no further than what the game says; latest iteration of the AK family

[iron thistle]

Right bc they invented new guns during a world ending catastrophe

[violet meteor]

It all does

[arctic grove]

AC42 can reasonably be introduced to Russia later in the 2020s and supplied into the 2030s

[violet meteor]

I'm gonna accept the current weapon pool and wait for more 🤷‍♂️

[arctic grove]

I could go on m8

[arctic grove]

That’s what I’m saying

[hexed mango]

Perri!!

[arctic grove]

Let’s not even begin the talk about logic

It’s just

Ugh

[iron thistle]

Lol ofc you have no choice but to accept it im just going off the lore they provided

[arctic grove]

Guns can be produced during global instability

[iron thistle]

theyre inventing completely new armorments in a 20 year span in which the world is ending and governments have collapsed

[hexed mango]

imagine having the lore ruin your gameplay experience

[arctic grove]

Doesn’t take that much resources in your RnD to make a new gun that fits your demands

[iron thistle]

I literally just said i wish the portal weapons were introduced sooner bc it would have made sense according to lore....

[hexed mango]

you’re missing the point: it’s just a fucking fictional game

don’t get yourself twisted over it

[violet meteor]

Where?

[hexed mango]

idk

[iron thistle]

Maybe thats why im talking about the fictional lore they provided ?

[hexed mango]

yeah but tbh it takes time to revamp weapons for 2042… i can’t blame them

[arctic grove]

It’s so easy to make sense out of why the 2042 AOW gun selection is there too lol

The sig spear is being introduced as we speak in 2022. Im sure it’ll be around in 2042

[iron thistle]

Ya takes time to introduce 1/2 the weapons of previous games for the same price

[violet meteor]

I can't remember if I had this discussion before or at release, but it was just throwing the idea around that less mass produced weapons could be seen a lot

Hence the funky weaponry

[arctic grove]

AK24 won’t be hard to produce because it’s just a modified AK lol

[hexed mango]

yeah but it’s fictional, it doesn’t need to constrain to reality like you’re trying to make it

[iron thistle]

Im literally talking about the lore they provided what are you on about ?

[arctic grove]

Judging by the games lore we shouldn’t have Comanches or F35s

But this wouldn’t be a battlefield without jets and helis

[iron thistle]

The frogfoot and the other added jet in portal recently should be in aow yes absolutely.

But as i said dice is doing what they can to keep portal and aow seperate

[arctic grove]

All I ask for is

M9, M16, M4

[violet meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/you-like-jazz-bee-movie-meme-cartoons-pick-up-lines-gif-10421511

[violet meteor]

It's funny you mention reality morbius

Because with Squarespace

You can turn your dreams into a reality

With over 100 website templates and 24/7 live customer support, you can't go wrong

Sign up today for a 30 day trial and use promo code "JAZZ" to recieve 20% off of your first month

[wet mortar]

Ahh aqualung!!

[iron thistle]

Large majority of bf3s weapons could be slapped in there

Would love to see them flood aow with content whether its new or old

[arctic grove]

I wouldn’t mind if all came over tbh

[violet meteor]

Cliffnotes: prior bf weapons should still be in 2042 cuz time

[iron thistle]

yes

[violet meteor]

Great

Moving on

[arctic grove]

Smg 08 in AOW

[iron thistle]

Your square space spam really contributed

[violet meteor]

I'm hoping so. If I don't get 20 subs from that promo code my children will get killed in front of me

[iron thistle]

LMFAO

[willow sky]

tier 1 bf3 weapons 😳

[arctic grove]

Imagine having 3 anti material rifles and people now complain about "they are the same"

I would laugh so hard

No matter what I think people will ultimately go back to the K30 drum

K30 is this games AEK971

[quiet shell]

Well what if 2042 gets a new AEK971

[arctic grove]

Or the new AKV-512

[lapis perch]

I mean, the M5A3 is this game's AEK

[wet mortar]

Or puppies that make unicorns?

[arctic grove]

RPM wise? (with some attachments)

Or popularity maybe

[lapis perch]

little of column a, little of column b

[wet mortar]

Lol hover bikes lol

[glass kindle]

I've unlocked attachments for the AK-24 but they're not showing up. Am I missing something? Is it a bug?

[lapis perch]

Restart client.

Sometimes bug happens where it doesn't unlock in real-time despite requirements being met. The progress is logged, you won't miss out, just restart client.

[glass kindle]

Thanks

[dapper river]

I can appreciate the M44 having a unique reload animation depending if you fired 1 to 6 shots. I mean I still suck with the gun, but it's a nice detail

[royal swan]

I'm on a move so I can't play. How's the game after the 1.1 update

[hallow sierra]

bsv is op

i better get bsv t1 before they nerf it

[violet meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-gif-21207758

[royal swan]

Gotta love those details man

[hallow sierra]

has bfv always have players dat camp weirdly then 2042

[royal swan]

Yes, bfv has great camping spots

Even bf1 you can say the same thing

[hallow sierra]

dat explains why keep seeing level 100s camping

[copper fulcrum]

The visibility in BFV is just awful

[hallow sierra]

i give 2042 one thing is dat at least it doesnt have bfv players

[arctic grove]

youve been saying that for hours lmao

[dapper river]

https://tenor.com/view/i-asked-goku-mui-goku-mui-meme-gif-22463661

[hallow sierra]

yea i can repeat some things

i only do dat if im annoyed about something

[wet mortar]

So bf portal does that include updated versions of older bf maps/vehicles/guns etc?

[hidden sand]

Especially on consoles with dynamic resolution.

The forced FAA doesn't help either.

[arctic grove]

switch game modes or something idk

[pseudo lake]

Anyone know if it no longer shows who got most assists at the end of game screen? I normally get #1 in assists but didn’t get mentioned at the end recently@

[obsidian elk]

Do you guys think we'll ever get the ability to drag downed troops?

[wet mortar]

Makes medic unbalanced

[lapis perch]

Would be cool, but I doubt it.

You can actually drag troops by running Casper's drone into the downed player lol

Casper underrated medic's assistant

[obsidian elk]

I tried that before and it didn't work

[lapis perch]

Oh maybe they changed it

[copper fulcrum]

It might still work, but it's tricky

You gotta like land under the head and lift up

[lapis perch]

#goodguycasper

Supports the head when you're weak

[hexed mango]

in a good or bad way

IMO, medics should be super op, so that more people play them :)

[hexed mango]

thats been fixed for a bit iirc
so has flying on your own drone
and c5 drone was nerfed heavily

[hushed magnet]

So apparently I unlocked a new scope battlefield 2042 for my gun that technically speaking does not yet exist in the game or that has been removed but shows up as a bug. Anyone else unlock a sniper/canted iron sight scope?

[arctic grove]

I think it’s in game right? But just on the BSV?

[hushed magnet]

Is it? Lol I unlocked it on my m5a3

[arctic grove]

I don’t want any

[hexed mango]

its a known issue

[hushed magnet]

Aha

[hexed mango]

@worthy inlet

[hexed mango]

im assuming its either the PSO or the 1.25-4x one

[hushed magnet]

The second one

[arctic grove]

I unlocked the 1.25-4x on M5 as well I think

[hexed mango]

ye

its an issue

[hushed magnet]

Was so happy to see a canted iron sight scope

[hexed mango]

what it is, is that its off to the side

[hushed magnet]

Yeah like the image showed a sniper scope with a canted iron sight on the side. It randomly popped up as I was getting iron sight kills on hard-core tdm

[hexed mango]

ye

[quiet shell]

I unlocked a new sight for the m5a3 but I cant access it? Same scope os avaliable for the sfar

[hexed mango]

bro literally read up

its this sight

[hushed magnet]

Yep

[hexed mango]

on guns like the VCAR it properly shows up cause there is enough space

[hushed magnet]

Aha

[hushed magnet]

Gotcha

[hexed mango]

ye

[hushed magnet]

Is it a special requirements unlock technically speaking? Never noticed it before

[hexed mango]

yeah

Kills with the (insert gun) while Aiming

dunno why Aiming is capitalized but whatever

@ripe hedge you might wanna look into it

i also Dm'd sam just incase they dont know, but im like 90% certain they know about it

[mental delta]

Don't ping him if he's not here

[hexed mango]

i didnt dm alex

he usually asks me to ping him so he can note it later ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mental delta]

Idk the rules ask to not do it

[hexed mango]

ik, but urgent matters are urgent

[mental delta]

And I think that can annoy them to get pinged while they have probably a lot more other stuff to do

[hexed mango]

plus, alex is nice, and ive talked to him before, im sure ill be ok and he'll understand

[hushed magnet]

Wish Dominique peak was on bf2042. Or metro. Either would be awesome with bf2042

[mental delta]

Damavand ?

[hushed magnet]

Yeah that one. don't know why i thought dominique

[hexed mango]

indeed but tbh i'd rather them work on making portal itself better before adding more maps to it

[hushed magnet]

True

[mental delta]

It was one of the most unforgettable maps from this game yes

[hexed mango]

same for AoW

ill always take more maps, guns, gadgets, etc
but if the platforms itself dont work correctly, it wont matter

[hushed magnet]

I always loved jumping off the cliff during rush and free falling to the next objective

More maps and weapons would be nice

[mental delta]

There's a chance you see metro but it's unlikely to be adapted to AOW 2042 settings, it will probably be a faster in Portal

[edgy oriole]

alex gave the ok for pings. he says he checks on pings on mondays

[hexed mango]

im happy with how stuff is going rn
im not super fond of people who complain the game's issue is content, because sure yeah it could have more content, but i'd rather have a game that functions first

[quiet shell]

I wish DICE would have dedicated servers for AOW that carry over. Im sick of having to wait for a new match every single time

[hexed mango]

skill issue

[arctic grove]

Only problem I see is sundance spam

[mental delta]

Ok ok good to know

[hexed mango]

@edgy oriole you wanna play or nah

[quiet shell]

The fuck does that have to do with skill?

[hexed mango]

skill gap x2

[arctic grove]

More or less could be done to the same effect with GLs in past games though

[hexed mango]

translation: the only problem i see is fun

[hushed magnet]

Battlefield has always had rough starts. That's what makes bf feel like bf. Part of why I enjoy it so much. Finding all the crazy launch glitches

[edgy oriole]

just got done watching the fights. about to sleep now.

[arctic grove]

Sundance only has 1 scatter right? It won’t be too bad

[mental delta]

He keeps saying that everytime someone (fairly) criticizes the game, don't mind this lvl of immaturity

[hexed mango]

lmao true
plus, part of being a fan is being there for the ride
watching it grow has been a fun journey thusfar

[edgy oriole]

right after i check on my hideout

[hexed mango]

ok mate jeez

that's not how i use it

[mental delta]

They should disable it for the map

[hushed magnet]

Who remembers the glitch where your guy would sprint slide everywhere while crouching on bf 4

[edgy oriole]

man release when everyone was sundance those scatter grenades were a menace. made me love irish.

[mental delta]

Or that giant neck soldiers

[hushed magnet]

Omg yes

[mental delta]

BF4 beta had the same problem

It was fun

[hushed magnet]

How about when everyone discovered the couch you could drive on hard line so all you saw where people zooming around the desert on a couch

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/wTLT.gif

[mental delta]

Lol it was cool

[quiet shell]

Ah so he's a shill. Got it

[hushed magnet]

Never thought I would see the day when I would die by a lazy boy drive by on battlefield

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bMhC1.gif

[arctic grove]

Did they nerf scatter

Not just reduce to 1

[hexed mango]

just because you cant handle me evaluating your skill doesnt mean i deserve to be bullied

[arctic grove]

I can't kill shit with it now lol

[hexed mango]

to my knowledge that's all they changed but i could be wrong

[arctic grove]

Ah so I'm just not good with them

[hexed mango]

most likely a skill issue indeed

[arctic grove]

Damn acknowledging that it's your skill issue isn't very hard

Don't know why so many people can't do that

[hexed mango]

precisely

especially @quiet shell and @mental delta

[hushed magnet]

I admit it everytime I accidentally blow myself up doing something I know wasn't good idea in the first place

[mental delta]

Lol yes, him and some others will not let you criticize any points about the game

[hexed mango]

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bbCLu.gif

[arctic grove]

Lol "let"

If you feel like you can't criticize points, you probably just losing arguments

[mental delta]

I am not but ok 👍

[arctic grove]

Skill issue

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/Gi0z.gif

gn @edgy oriole

[mental delta]

No it's just that everytime someone here says something bad about the game there's still an immature kid like you to say "skill issue" like a fool who doesn't have an argument

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/Lw5r.gif

[mental delta]

See, just have a bit of dignity

[hexed mango]

or, maybe just have a bit of humor

[mental delta]

Lol cries about getting bullied and then proceeds to bully other people, what a fucking hypocrite you are

[hexed mango]

i mean if you have a skill issue, that's not my problem

also that's not me bullying you, im informing you that you're missing the point

[mental delta]

Lol joking with an immature guy who says "skill issue" everytime someone criticizes his favorite game

[hexed mango]

i dont, but ok

[mental delta]

"I dOnT BuT Ok"

[hexed mango]

Now who's the hypocrite

[arctic grove]

Wow saying skill issue really riles people up

[hexed mango]

honestly

[mental delta]

Still u in my sense

[hexed mango]

this makes me wanna say it more just cause people cant handle it

[arctic grove]

These two words Grant you the keys to their head.

You live in their head rent free

[hexed mango]

precisely

[mental delta]

And you'll look dumber than you already are

[hexed mango]

we should call in bryce so he and crabmen can talk up a storm that eventually has no effect on anything

[mental delta]

What an intelligent move from an immature kid

[hexed mango]

ok

[arctic grove]

Bro why you so mad you getting played like a violin😂

Stahhp

[arctic grove]

What did this Bryce guy do?

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/beR5I.gif

[hexed mango]

same thing crab is doing rn

i said skill issue and they went off like a trainwreck

funny thing is i wasnt even talking to them

sorry for the spaces, my keyboard is broken

[quiet shell]

I gave a legitimate criticism about the games server handling

And you call it a skill issue

How dumb can you get

[hexed mango]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mental delta]

I had to inform Kyla about how immature you were, nothing personal, just try to be constructive when you defend the game and that's it 👍

[hexed mango]

maybe i say skill issue more than just in the places of criticism, but you guys wouldnt know that

[hexed mango]

again, now who's the hypocrite

[arctic grove]

My only criticism is

M4A1

[hexed mango]

m5?

[mental delta]

Lmao you're just using the same word I used 5 minutes earlier without any context, come on make some efforts

[hexed mango]

being that they suck?

[arctic grove]

Well the m5a3 is the sig spear

[hexed mango]

you used it without context either but ill provide some

[arctic grove]

Sig? Didnt get it

Sig sauer mcx spear

Aight gotcha now

[mental delta]

I did, you were crying like a kid about "getting bullied" while it clearly wasn't and then you proceeded to do the same thing with me lol, that's why I called you that

[hexed mango]

first, you said that i was a hypocrite because i questioned why i was being bullied for not doing anything, then to apparently bully you
and then, you continued to pour your rage down to me, so i called you a hypocrite, now that you're continuing to do it, I'm continuing to say that, because it is continuously accurate.

[mental delta]

[plucky pebble]

morb

[mental delta]

Just go sleep kid

[hexed mango]

yes

[arctic grove]

M5a3 is my wife i love her

[hexed mango]

yeah, you're talking about the M5A1 right?

[arctic grove]

I almost have it tier 1d

Congrats

What about other weapons

[hexed mango]

i dont use the T1 skin

[arctic grove]

Oh wait I see what you’re saying, yea that rename isn’t bad

[hexed mango]

either the legendary one or the american one lol

[hexed mango]

ye

[arctic grove]

My next closest t1 gun is the K30 and MP9, I really gotta get to work on everything else though. I played some bt with the lcmg earlier

[arctic grove]

default gun is best gun

[plucky pebble]

imagine

[arctic grove]

That bluish chrome skin looks god, you get with the kills and still looks good

[arctic grove]

Like in other battlefields (3)

And many more

[plucky pebble]

T1 m5 looks nice tho i hate the gold accents

[arctic grove]

500 and some kills with m5a3, and not even 100 with others

Maybe there are 1 or 2 weaps

[hexed mango]

ngl, idk what happened there

[hexed mango]

probably a skill issue

[arctic grove]

Video aint playing very well for me can you explain

[hexed mango]

basically 0 splash damage occured for the tank

[arctic grove]

It seems the barrel went to the ground for some reason

[hexed mango]

and that caused me to die

[plucky pebble]

seems like that last shoot didnt register

[arctic grove]

skill issue

[arctic grove]

Shame on it

[plucky pebble]

also that

[hexed mango]

both tthe mortar shot and the tank shot at the end did 0 splash damage

for some reason the TOW missile sucks ass

[hexed mango]

@arctic grove ye i precalled my skill issue

[arctic grove]

TOW HAS BEEN ASS SINCE BETA

[hexed mango]

ikr

[arctic grove]

most useless 2ndary weapon

[hexed mango]

i agree

[arctic grove]

I need to tank more but I hate having to scan for a sundance every 3 seconds

Their range is crazy

[arctic grove]

Now u gotta worry for Lis

Oh yeah damn Lis too

[hexed mango]

lis should be buffed

[arctic grove]

Thats where infantry comes in

Tanks themselves cant do everything

[dire quest]

Y'all know how the maximum vehicles for air superiority and ground superiority modes is 48 vehicles? What if each vehicle was a 2 seater? 96 players no?

[arctic grove]

192 player mode coming confirmed

[hexed mango]

atleast make vehicle assists count for her mastery, that's all

[dire quest]

Wouldn't 96 player air/ground superiority mode sound interesting? Best part... no infantry?

[hexed mango]

yes

A-10 versus WC

[plucky pebble]

no infantry= no fun

[hexed mango]

why 96 players

[dire quest]

48 vehicles max
Each vehicle is a 2 seater

[hexed mango]

true

[dire quest]

Which means half of the players are gonna have to ride co-pilot

[hexed mango]

ic

cause this is the worst feeling playing her

[dire quest]

Which vehicle works best for air superiority?

[hexed mango]

2042 vehicles? probably hind/condor lol

[dire quest]

I've been running it with only stealth choppers but just realized maybe not everyone has it unlocked, better to run only night bird? Or nightbird and attack helicopter?

[hexed mango]

jets would be more fun

[dire quest]

Bots can't fly jets sadly, bots are there to fill until full

[mental delta]

Mix nightbird with attack helicopters I guess everybody has it

[hexed mango]

lame remove bots, easy

[dire quest]

Game fills with bots

[dire quest]

Going to set this up

[hexed mango]

just add jets for the normal humans

🥵

i guess a hitbox doesnt include tracks

or a skill issue

[dire quest]

96 player air superiority server is live

[hexed mango]

anyways tank superiority is fun

just make it 128 players and add 32 jets, 16 per side

[dire quest]

That would require infantry

[hexed mango]

why would it? jets are Air to Air

[dire quest]

32 jets, they're only 1 seaters

[hexed mango]

yeah. 32 jets, so that its only for the real players

[dire quest]

24 vehicles per side maximum silly

[hexed mango]

wait that's a rule? that's dumb

ok remove some helis and add just a few jets

like just a few

these choices only for a gamemode tthat historically is jet based is kinda sad
plus, i want to fly jets

i mean your server isnt even full xp , so not like i can level up apache and nb

[dire quest]

How about 10 nightbirds 10 attack helicopters and 4 jets per side?

[hexed mango]

sounds like a plan

[dire quest]

Let me set it up again

[arctic grove]

Huron is bussin

[valid merlin]

Anyone know how to fix broken vehicle loadout?

[hexed mango]

this felt so nasty

i found a full XP all jets air superiority and im having a blast

[dire quest]

So now there's 10 nightbirds, 10 attack helicopters, and 4 jets per team

Wait aren't jets 1 seaters?

[hexed mango]

curious, if you turn off bots is it full progression dab?

[hexed mango]

ye

unless its the WW2 bombers lel

[dire quest]

Pretty sure yee but wouldn't that take long to fill?

Let me edit it again to 88 players instead of 96 players

[hexed mango]

not if its a good mode

i mean i might play

[keen loom]

[hexed mango]

but im honestly really enjoying this full jet mode even tho i suck

like im not doing so good

but passive radar is so fun

and i love the F35

i have come to the conclusion that i hate the SU

@dire quest is yours up?

F-35 tho is super hot

[pine roost]

How are you finding players? I had an air sup mode active for almost an hour and only one two people joined

[dire quest]

Server is live, search 88 player air superiority!

[pine roost]

But then one left so it ended up being two people on my team which doesn’t work in this game

[hexed mango]

this is the match i was playing on

[pine roost]

Maybe since today is the weekend I can grab more players

[frank stratus]

it's morbin' time

[hexed mango]

indeed

@dire quest ima go eat rq, so ill be afk, this is fun tho

wish i was killing real people cause i am tryna level up my felon but whatever

[foggy halo]

Killing real people lol

[violet meteor]

Wow an actual air superiority map

[hexed mango]

there's also this one

im about to spend too long getting this to T1

[pine roost]

I need to check to see if my mode has full exp

[hexed mango]

the one im on is

[pine roost]

All I’ve done is set it to bf3 and enabled only the a10

[violet meteor]

Don't punish yourself

[pine roost]

So there shouldn’t be any hiccups

But air superiority desperately needs the ability to talk to the other team and switch teams

[hexed mango]

im not, im enjoying it

[pine roost]

They Aught to change the teams so it’s the SU only

[hexed mango]

i dont personally understand why people say jets feel annoying af

[pine roost]

Since that has a better turning rate

[obsidian elk]

It really needs to not take 1200 if it only counts vehicles

[hexed mango]

nah F-35 is 10000x better than SU

[hexed mango]

it needs to have assists aswell

[pine roost]

But it’s not though

[hexed mango]

idk why it doesnt

[hexed mango]

it really is

[pine roost]

The SU literally out turns it in dogfights

It’s almost a guaranteed win

[obsidian elk]

Then just go vtol while it's behind you

Its only option is to fly straight up if you do that

[pine roost]

Then the su can just fly up and get behind you

[obsidian elk]

Bro

[arctic grove]

IRL Su planes are superior

[hexed mango]

irl F-35 is stealth

[arctic grove]

Cheaper, more manueverable, less maintenance, however less range

Similar stealth in the newer sukhoi models

But the F-35 is like, what, 120 billion over budget

And eight years late

Also, super expensive to maintain

[obsidian elk]

SU-57 is air superiority stealth fighter, F-35 is a mobile aerial command center with limited air-to-air and air-to-ground strike capabilities

[arctic grove]

And was the inferior plane to another plane I forgot the name of

[hexed mango]

F-22 is best jet

[obsidian elk]

SU-57 would always win irl

[arctic grove]

Jets need constant maintenance

Which is why I support the idea of Flying Fortress development

Armoured planes which can withstand anti aircraft attacks and have multiple fuel sources

Lower or increase the speed, but make a ground attack focused attack plane that’s solely for air striking air defended positions

[hexed mango]

aka condor

ez

[arctic grove]

Modern jet development is focused on fighting enemies with no anti aircraft capability

[obsidian elk]

Honestly it just sounds like you're describing the AC-130 to me

[arctic grove]

It gets shot down super easily

[obsidian elk]

It's basically a flying tank though isn't it?

[arctic grove]

They were only ever deployed to fight civilian or infantry

[arctic grove]

That’s the point

but an AC-130 only shines for when you know the enemy has no anti air capability or that shit is fried

A plane which can take down the things made to counter planes

that’s what’s needed

[hexed mango]

i just got jet rammed :(

[obsidian elk]

My understanding of the AC-130 always was that it is an aerial tank that is extremely hardy and outputs shit tons of firepower

[arctic grove]

Then again Russia just spent a while developing EMPs which it hasn’t used to a large scale in Ukraine yet

But the limited times it was used it completely blacked out parts of the battlefield

[arctic grove]

It’s a cargo plane with guns on it

It’s really easy to shoot down with conventional stationary anti aircraft weaponry

But anyway Russia, a country with 1/15 of the US budget, somehow managed to make a superior plane and superior EMP

[hexed mango]

AC = cargo plane for attack missions

[arctic grove]

the US meanwhile just spends all the money on overthrowing third world leaders

kinda sad

But oh well

If Russia really does have some stuff up it’s sleeve (which I suspect it does) then it would probably be large scale EMP devices

[obsidian elk]

SU-57 is indeed superior to the F-22...but it is superior only in the Russian way

[arctic grove]

maybe like an ICBM with EMP capabilities

[obsidian elk]

F-22 overall is still marvelous

[arctic grove]

Remote EMPs would be total game changers

[hexed mango]

tell this SU that it should be winning in a dogfight

B-2 best aircraft

[arctic grove]

Nothing can stand up then, fucking Cold War era fighting then

[obsidian elk]

Also the F-22 has a shit ton of classified capabilities

there are thrust vectoring maneuvers it is capable of that we are never allowed to see

[arctic grove]

Imagine a highly defended high tech base, but then suddenly everything turns off including the anti air and radar, and you’re ducked

[obsidian elk]

But Su-57 also has thrust vectoring

Overall I believe they are evenly matched but SU-57 takes the cake only in certain aspects

[arctic grove]

If I was the US I’d invest in EMPS

[arctic grove]

While being significantly cheaper

[obsidian elk]

EMP's are challenging to field, at least for conventional, highly advanced factions

[hexed mango]

aka make more nukes ez

[obsidian elk]

If the US wanted to field an EMP blast, they would have to do so before any of their tech is on-site.

[arctic grove]

Not necessarily, Russia has been developing short range EMP vehicles which seem to work well

Though they aren’t RPG proof

[obsidian elk]

Also the US prefers to win engagements with superior intelligence, training, and skill of their operators combined with very high technology

they don't often need to EMP the opfor

[arctic grove]

hah, you being fr!

They only fight those who have a technological disadvantage or else they don’t fight directly

And resort to proxies or militias

[obsidian elk]

I'm not making a point about the capabilities of their opponents

or about proxies or mercenaries

[arctic grove]

example a being Afghanistan and Iraq, one without an Air Force and one with (at the time) thirty year old planes

[arctic grove]

Everything is based on the opponents

[hexed mango]

Forced Crashes should count as kills + destructions

[arctic grove]

You adapt around the foe

Which apparently the US cannot do

[obsidian elk]

Dozer should get exp for deflecting bullets and for enemies killed while shooting his shield

also change his tier one from enemies bitchslapped to bullets deflected

[obsidian elk]

Something tells me you don't actually care about the US's military prowess or strategies

[hexed mango]

agree

[obsidian elk]

And are speaking purely from subjectivity

[arctic grove]

Because on a molecular level all they’ve done for the past fifty years is proxies and destroying inferior armies

[arctic grove]

Real American agrees with this statement

the secretary of army chief himself admitted in FM-03 2017 that, quote, “the US adapted its strategies and training for counterterrorism; while Russia and China focused on training for fighting a neer-peer, and have already met or advanced the US in several critical areas.”

No bullshit look it up, operations field manual of the US army since nam has been “spam air strike and run away”

We haven't gone up against a near peer threat since WW2, and the entire military industrial complex is designed around creating jobs, funding military contractors, and paying lobbyists

Or “hold out till said air strike, because we’re assuming the enemy has no anti air capabilities”

We are 50% about capabilities, and 50% about profit

@arctic grove many of our wars against these inferior militaries, or proxy wars are designed to make money for contractors

Look at Boeing

[hexed mango]

bro i dont think this is #history or #politics

[arctic grove]

This is legit.

This guy knows his stuff.

[obsidian elk]

Defeating weaker nations and conquering their market assets is an extremely easy way to make money for a militarily powerful nation.

[arctic grove]

Indeed

But it does not demonstrate our capabilities against a near peer threat

[arctic grove]

Example one, the YF23

Superior to the F22 but lost due to lobbying by Lockheed

Ehhh

That situation is a bit more complicated than that

[obsidian elk]

Lmao

[arctic grove]

Yeah, question is why doesn’t Russia or China do it? Answer, it’s extremely hard to convince people that you’re fighting for the good guys then.

[hexed mango]

F-22 looks cooler than YF23

[arctic grove]

The US has the worlds best propaganda

[obsidian elk]

I can guarantee you guys they have something 10x better than both the F-22 and the SU-57

and we're not going to see it for years

and years

until they have something 10x better than that

[arctic grove]

That’s bullshit

[hexed mango]

The CCP would like to know your location

[arctic grove]

The CCP cannot hold a candle

[hexed mango]

ok guys now im on RU

[arctic grove]

The Chinese know they are ruled over and aren’t free

[hexed mango]

i dont have anything unlocked for the SU

[obsidian elk]

They're both doing it

China is trying to turn Taiwan into China

[arctic grove]

Americans believe they are when they aren’t

[obsidian elk]

and Russia is trying to turn Ukraine into Russia

[arctic grove]

Not for military purposes

Pride

[obsidian elk]

That's not true

They won't waste assets on pride

[arctic grove]

It’s like if the confederates went and started a country in Cuba

[arctic grove]

They 100% would

While the aircraft did have Superior speed and stealth characteristics, it is important to note that the F-22 is a much simpler design and a safer investment. Lockheed had also flown test missions where the F-22 fired weapons from its internal weapons bays. The YF-23 internal weapons bays configuration was not entirely designed at that stage. The YF-23 was a great plane, but sometimes simple is better when both designs are a signficant leap over the competition

[obsidian elk]

Well, maybe the hyper narcissistic world leaders would do that

[arctic grove]

Plus they are neighbours, and the neighbour being a collaborator with your greatest enemy is a security threat

[obsidian elk]

But that's also an easy ticket into wasting your assets and ruining your country

[fervent grotto]

Uhhh

What is happening

[arctic grove]

Not necessarily

[arctic grove]

NGAD, but that's currently a black project and still in systems development stage

pride caused a lot of things in history

Usually bad but sometimes good

[obsidian elk]

The fact that we even know about it means it was already successful

[arctic grove]

Simply put, China and Russia stick their army to their region; the US doesn’t.

Eeehhhh

The 1# export the US does is crude oil. Despite not being a significant producer of it.

[arctic grove]

That is true

[obsidian elk]

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but what we see in the media is 20 years behind what's actually fielded and invented

[arctic grove]

That's a myth

[arctic grove]

That’s sort of true but there’s an extent

[obsidian elk]

I wouldn't be surprised if they already have science fiction-esque weaponry

[arctic grove]

The US R&D is blatantly a money laundering scheme

The F35 is literally an astronomical money laundering device

It's true in some fields but when it comes to fielding an actual combat system in useful numbers, not really

[obsidian elk]

Buy low sell high, baby. We don't need to drill our own oil if we sell everyone else's for 10x the price

[arctic grove]

Woah ho ho hooooo no

Now that is the misconception of the century

Invade countries and kill black and brown people to support the imperial ambitions of white men who hate their country and everyone in it

[arctic grove]

Check FMS

[fervent grotto]

What

[arctic grove]

DMS

[obsidian elk]

I'm pretty sure you lost us all with this one

[arctic grove]

I've read every gao, SAR, DOT&E report, etc

That’s true though

[fervent grotto]

Not really

But I’m not gonna argue about all that

[arctic grove]

Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Guatemala, Panama, Vietnam, Laos, Most of South America vis CIA

[fervent grotto]

That’s a one way ticket to ban town

[arctic grove]

You can’t defend it

[fervent grotto]

I could but I don’t wanna

No point to argue

[arctic grove]

The US invaded every non China Russia affiliated country if they denied the US rule to their country

[fervent grotto]

We clearly think very opposite things and aren’t going to change our minds

[arctic grove]

By the way I absolutely agree with 99% of what you're saying especially this specific statement. The only thing I'm contesting here is the F-35 statement

The F-35 requires a lot of nuance to really understand.

It’s really not

It’s a money laundering scheme

plain and simple

I've had this debate a million times

That aircraft is no more money laundering scheme than any other military aircraft development.

that eight years and 160 billion is a necessary expense for the engineering masterpiece that is the F35?

The F-35's total projected cost for now is $1.7 trillion, which includes $1.3 trillion in estimated operations and sustainment over 66 years

300 billion for R&D

Come on.

I don't know have you read the government accountability office reports on the F-16? How about initial F-15 reliability issues? Oh boy was the F-14 a fiasco.

See the issue here is your sighting a lot of numbers but you're not understanding that these are relative.

[sleek remnant]

yeah.... 1.3 trillion over 50 years is cheap

[arctic grove]

300 billion is literally Death Star levels of comically crazy

[sleek remnant]

welcome to advance engineering

death star might cost more

[arctic grove]

three hundred BILLION

[hexed mango]

i tried

[fervent grotto]

Well depends because the Death Star was made along time ago in a different galaxy, so honestly it’s probably cheaper

[arctic grove]

300000000000

Dollars.

[dapper river]

*a long

[arctic grove]

I can’t even put it in a calculator

[sleek remnant]

you'll be surprised how much GDP developed countries has

[fervent grotto]

😭😭😭

[arctic grove]

Again stop citing numbers without proper comparisons

[arctic grove]

GDP of the US is decently artificial

come on, 24 trillion?

[fervent grotto]

Ong we should just try and make a death star

[sleek remnant]

couldn't accept the fact that US economy is big?

[arctic grove]

And they couldn’t subdue militias armed with fifty year old AKS?

The per unit cost of an F-35 is lower than any of the euro canards, and it's outright comparable to the F-18. Even ever so publicized cost per flight hour issues only put the airplane at the same cpfh of as a french Rafale.

either you’re incompetent or you’re lying

[arctic grove]

Euros cannot make weaponry

Only Germans and czechs

and even then not after 1990

[fervent grotto]

Well taking into consideration that the soldiers in the field didn’t really get all the modern high tech stuff it makes sense

[arctic grove]

Then how do you explain the F-35 being more capable yet less expensive than Boeing fighters?

As I said before the F-35 is no more of a money laundering scheme than any other fighter

[tame cobalt]

Were the elevators on the other side of the renewal building there since launch

The side that doesn't have the downstairs lobby

[arctic grove]

Boeing, another lobbyist company, which historically had lobbied against Chinese and Russian developments in the aerospace?

[arctic grove]

They are ALL money laundering schemes

There you go!

[fervent grotto]

Wat

[arctic grove]

That's what I'm alluding to here. It just so happens to be the case that the F-35 is the best bang for your buck

Russia for example makes planes on par or considered a threat with a yearly entire military budget of one tenth of the F35

Because if you buy any other fighter you're getting a much worse deal and you're getting much more of a money laundering device.

[arctic grove]

No

[sleek remnant]

bwahahahaha.....

you're definitely not familiar with Lazerpig Loop

[fervent grotto]

That sounds like the name of a random cod YouTuber with like 157k subs

[tame cobalt]

Lol

[fervent grotto]

It does though

[sleek remnant]

well, not exactly a cod youtuber.....

[hexed mango]

fortnite?

[fervent grotto]

Stg there’s always some random cod YouTuber that pops up and only posts shorts and uses the exact same jokes every time

[sleek remnant]

nah, just youtuber

[hexed mango]

fortnite.

[fervent grotto]

Fortnite

Are there even dedicated fortnite YouTubers anymore?

[tame cobalt]

Fortnut

[hexed mango]

probably

[fervent grotto]

And I’m talking like they only post fortnite

No other games

I feel like making a channel dedicated to one game is not a good idea

It restricts your growth

It’s just not smart

[mossy badge]

MWII MWII MWII

[fervent grotto]

Yeaaa

[violet meteor]

It's not smart if you aren't skilled

Otherwise is works out plenty

[fervent grotto]

No it’s not even your skill. You only get the people who are interested the game you play

Sure there’s a few people who hit it big with one game, but it’s not very often

[violet meteor]

Skill and personality, but a dedicated schedule

[hexed mango]

flares no work?

[violet meteor]

That's how you geta a following

[fervent grotto]

How many YouTubers do you know that are over 1 mil subs and only post one game?

[violet meteor]

I don't know any streamers because I play games not watch others play them

Also, everyone and their mom streams