battlefield-2042

[hidden sand]

Wack

[quiet shell]

So you can still perform c5 droning

but the drone is now slowed down due to the c5's weight

which is...

actually a fair and balanced change that doesn't take the fun out of the c5 drones

and makes their usage way more rewarding

[solar tinsel]

agreed, amen

It also makes sense: the extra weight would slow it down, assumedly.

[rocky nexus]

this must be due to the excessive efficiency of the BSV-M and the aircraft 🥲

[solar tinsel]

I'm glad they found a logical compromise rather than just prevent it outright (or leave it the way it was). It's a good change

[solar tinsel]

Yeah I'm guesing the BSV-M is going to be meta now huh? It was already, and with the DMRs getting global buffs, it's gonna be a rough one for a while until they nail down the specific BSV-M balances

[gaunt ferry]

I've had a massive performance drop post-1.1.0

[hidden sand]

I am trying my hardest to reason why the attack jets would have better flight models, better turnrates, and rear cam movement while every other aircraft in the game doesn't.

[solar tinsel]

could be caching? Is it the first time you've played specific maps after the update?

If you're on PC, I think that's a thing - but I haven't played Battlefield on PC since 2142 so, whos to say haha

[gaunt ferry]

I just booted it up for the first time since the update

And if it was caching, it'd happen at the beginning of the match

Not the entire 20 minutes

And on the menu.

[unborn herald]

gameplay is so much smoother now

[sweet barn]

placebo

[hidden sand]

@next onyx So what's your overall opinion on the attack jets?

[hollow verge]

the update is good?

[unborn herald]

yea

[gaunt ferry]

if it hadn't killed my framerate, yeah

lol

[queen grove]

This game is awesome.

All the Battlefield games are good, 2042 might not be #1 but with lots of people still playing different game modes....it's definitely good, especially at 50% off 🤣

[digital portal]

Man the input lag is crazy in this game

[queen grove]

I don't notice it to the point it ruins the game

I think a lot of people are getting used to the size of the maps

[silk surge]

I'm glad the sound is back in the game.

[queen grove]

Also more people need to play Hazard Zone. It's fucking sick

[next onyx]

It's shit.

[next onyx]

Check your settings. For me. Everything was put on ultra.

[gaunt ferry]

It was on auto on high, I tried both high and low settings and a mix in between, while also having turned on and off DLSS and many settings.

[next onyx]

Yikes.

[gaunt ferry]

There's still a big performance hit for me after the patch!

[next onyx]

I think there's a memory leak in there too.

[gaunt ferry]

It's sad because everything else from the update? I LOVE IT!

[hidden sand]

Is it better than the regular jets at least?

[gaunt ferry]

I noticed it immediately after launching.

[arctic grove]

Why they keep scaling down Sundance it’s mad annoying

[gaunt ferry]

So I don't think I had a memory leak.

[magic harness]

What's good

In the update

[bronze steeple]

What sound was gone?

[worn cape]

Is there an update or something?

Game just quit saying there's an update lol

[dapper river]

Usually the first time you load the game after a new update the performance is shit because the game needs to build shaders for each map. Play more and restart after a while to see better performance

[next onyx]

I retract what I said. They're still shit to a degree but they're a lot more fun than regular jets.

That 30MM cannon has such obtuse spread.

They also pull up like fucking anchors.

[naive sandal]

Also holds true for consoles?

[next onyx]

But if you get a good strafe on some craft you can kill them in a single strafe.

[hidden sand]

Yup. I just don't understand why they didnt apply these improvements to the other jets.

[next onyx]

Yeah they handle a bit better.

But they themselves handle like shit.

If that makes any sense

[dapper river]

No clue, I only play on PC ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hidden sand]

Being able to move in rear cam should have been on all of them by now but ah well.

But yeah they do.

[dapper river]

Can't we get a battlefield game with ace combat/project wingman jet handling?

[uncut bay]

that'd be asking too much

[next onyx]

@hidden sand

It's a lot of fun though.

[hidden sand]

Wish they had made a Portal playlist so we can use them with other players.

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind it if they decreased its damage.

If it made them more accurate at a range.

[hidden sand]

It just needs to be like BF3 really.

The dmg is about the same I think, but the spread wasnt that bad.

[calm bison]

How good is the A10 and Frogfoot against infantry

At least in terms of the GAU

I’ve seen it against vehicles

But do these beauties shred infantry

[next onyx]

It's not good against infantry lol.

The spread is too much.

[calm bison]

Just like BF4

[silk surge]

Intro sound before start of each game.

[next onyx]

It pretty much outlines them.

[open tangle]

New plane ?

[next onyx]

New-ish.

[calm bison]

I figured it would’ve had splash damage

[next onyx]

There's no splash.

[calm bison]

I’ve heard the hydras are effective tho

[next onyx]

They are.

[open tangle]

What do you mean newish

Was it added today

[next onyx]

It's a thing from bf3.

It's new to the game but not new to us.

[calm bison]

The GAU sounds better in 2042 than in 4 and 3

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/239788202745921536/994284404283297842/RPReplay_Final1657112411.mov

(This isn’t my clip I stole it from Reddit)

[hidden sand]

Ye it sounds really good

[bronze steeple]

I didnt missed that but i am curious now

[open tangle]

After todays update I’m having this issue that I had when the game was in beta where the screen is flickering on series X

[unborn herald]

visual bug

[pine roost]

i don't believe there is any splash at all

[hidden sand]

Did the reticle for tanks used to be there?

I swear it I remember it being there at some point

[calm bison]

This happens on Series S as well

Usually in jets tho

[arctic grove]

Ewwwwww

[dapper river]

[arctic grove]

Ace combat is too squishy feeling. Like the controls are mushy

[dapper river]

LITERALLY what does that even mean

l i t e r a l l y

[arctic grove]

How about this

[dapper river]

the flight model is miles ahead of what we have in 2042 that's for sure

[arctic grove]

Eh yeah I guess sorta maybe? Idk about that man

[uncut bay]

AC/PW controls aren't the best, but they're far better than whatever we have in 2042

[hidden sand]

Sheesh the lack of armour angling makes tank superiority so unfun.

[uncut bay]

frostbite's vehicles overall have always been sorta shit compared to other games

[hidden sand]

And APS.

[dapper river]

https://tenor.com/view/mig21-mig-jet-backflip-post-stall-gif-23327084

project wingman lawl

[arctic grove]

I don't like how in ace combat there is a delay between my desired control input and the resulting movement of the aircraft. Like in pitch. The aircraft can turn really fast, but it takes a while for the plane to get the desired pitch rate

And when you neutralize the stick, the plane keeps going for a bit. Takes a few seconds for the turn to stop

[jaunty fjord]

So this update dice has not fixed the c5 drone

Is dice no longer able to fix this old bug?

[pine roost]

they have adressed it

to some degree

[jaunty fjord]

Even if the speed of the drone with the c5 is reduced, there will still be people playing this

[sweet barn]

who cares

[arctic grove]

BFV flight model > ace combat flight model

[sweet barn]

its literally moving at snails pace

[next onyx]

The effectiveness has been lowered so much I don't think it's gonna be too much of an issue anymore.

[jaunty fjord]

Especially for ground vehicles, this thing is hard to notice when driving a tank

[next onyx]

Yeah it's still possible but you may as well run up to the bastard.

Uip have you seen how slow the drone is?

[sweet barn]

at that point just run to the tank and throw the c5

[jaunty fjord]

this thing is really stupid

[sweet barn]

or you gonna complain about that too

[next onyx]

The speed is NOT going to make a difference.

[hidden sand]

Uh

18 players in a match yet somehow the 20 tanks are used?

[next onyx]

Yes.

[hidden sand]

DICE pls

[jaunty fjord]

this drone have 3 c5?

[next onyx]

Seems so.

I'm not sure.

[silver lantern]

Yall think they could still add crouch sprint like BF5 lol

[sweet barn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MFYSmeSg7M

[next onyx]

@jovial quest Hey dude how many bits of c5 did you stick onto it?

[jaunty fjord]

If this thing is not repaired, it will still have a disgusting effect on vehicles and infantry, even if the speed is reduced

[hidden sand]

It's 3, yes

But I think it slows down regardless

[jaunty fjord]

Even a drone with only one c5 can still disgust a tank

[next onyx]

It's still going to happen but thankfully it isn't going to be as nimble.

[hidden sand]

Way you know what'll be funny to see

[jaunty fjord]

If the tank is hated, guess how many drones with 1 c5 will come?

[next onyx]

Mh?

[hidden sand]

"Why is the drone so slow when I put C5 on it????¿¿¿¿ :("

[open tangle]

You’re very active in the chat today

[jaunty fjord]

I'm afraid it will be like Lis' missile.

[pine roost]

i was hoping to see a camera roll toggle option in the settings, guess I'm out of luck

[hidden sand]

A victory for tank players

[hidden sand]

DICE doesn't care sadly

[jaunty fjord]

And this time the vehicle moved from Battlefield 3 still feels like shit

[pine roost]

ripple effect seem to though

[next onyx]

Guess I am. I'm not doing anything anyways.

[jaunty fjord]

The bottom layer itself is a piece of shit, and dice wants to add more shit to this shit

[pine roost]

hopefully next patch. i'll keep my eyes open for it

[hidden sand]

Maybe. Still shocked that none of the traversal improvements weren't brought over to the other jets.

[unborn herald]

next patch is in august lol'

[hidden sand]

Everything is going at such a slow rate.

[unborn herald]

slow rate?

bro they literally stack bug fixes

[next onyx]

Would be cool if they could re do the jets from the ground up.

[jaunty fjord]

If dice can't fix it, won't dice just move the code of the previous generation directly?

[next onyx]

OH YEAH AGM's are sorta weaker in a way?

You'll take two of them at once but they resupply slower.

[hidden sand]

Talking about balancing and poor vehicle design.

[hidden sand]

That's worse honestly lol.

[unborn herald]

poor vehicle design lol thats over exaggeration

[next onyx]

I really dunno. It can go either way.

[hidden sand]

Because it comes back to how much else you have to deal with.

[next onyx]

I wish the wildcats drive model wasn't the car model.

[jaunty fjord]

It can only be said that dice is still biased towards foot-battle players rather than all types of players

[next onyx]

Plus tanks were a bit more flexible.

[jaunty fjord]

Although foot combat is not much better

[next onyx]

I'd say this game is more biased towards choppers than anything else.

[hidden sand]

It's not? It's how I feel about the vehicles in this game.

[unborn herald]

yeah ur exaggerating it

[next onyx]

Ground vehicles are kinda... well.

They can be powerful but it's very easy to take advantage of them.

I dunno. I feel like they can be powerful but at the same time abused easily.

[hidden sand]

Nvm you're trolling. Not worth the time.

[unborn herald]

Nvm you're trolling.

Not worth the time.

[hidden sand]

Tanks really can't be powerful though.

[unborn herald]

"tanks cant be powerful though" lol did u ever see wildcats camping in the back shooting helis down

[next onyx]

Can you not flexure.

[hidden sand]

You can't benefit your team at all with them.

[jaunty fjord]

The damn elevation angle of the tank can't hit the drone at all, and it's impossible to switch to the 2nd position to see it at any time. Because the c5 drone can't be repaired, they treat the vehicle player in this perfunctory way.

[unborn herald]

can you not what?

what am I doing?

[next onyx]

Not push it with Suika.

[jaunty fjord]

what are u doing dice

[next onyx]

I was always fearful of TNT in bf5 but c5 has taken it to new heights with how far it can be thrown.

[unborn herald]

didn't he say I was trolling because I had a different opinion?

[next onyx]

Yeah and you seem to be bent on just annoying him by copying him.

[jaunty fjord]

I'd rather be surrounded and blown up than see this c5 sticking around all over my head

[unborn herald]

yeah by calling me a troll

[foggy halo]

tnt was almost just like c4

[unborn herald]

seems like people can't have different opinions because it would classify as a troll

[next onyx]

Let's look at it from the ground up.

C5 can be thrown a bit from a ludicrous distance.

Nvm the fact that the m5 exists which does a bit of damage at a range.

And when you damage a vehicle it sends a message to every lis player in the vicinity.

[unborn herald]

lis rocket is kinda bad

[jaunty fjord]

Let me gess how many rocket will come for u

[unborn herald]

you can avoid lis rockets by just moving

because the control of it is horrible lmao

[foggy halo]

it depends on how good the one who sends it

[jaunty fjord]

tv millisle should be used on veichle

but dice used in specialist

[hidden sand]

1. TV Missile that can literally go behind the few bits of cover on these maps.

2. C4 Drone they said they'd remove 7 months ago.

3. Rao being able to completely deny your ability to fight back by looking at you, and then c4ing you.

4. EMP grenades completely disabling function outside of movement.

5. Sundance being able to hover over you with C5.

6. M5 Recoilless being able to hit you no matter what, because of no APS.

7. AGMs you cannot counter.

8. Stealth Heli's being able to hover over you and drop bombs, or AGM.

9. Lock on grenades Sundance has.

10. Mckay being able to attach himself to your tank and force himself on top, C4ing you.And so on.

11. Just about every player either holding C4 or the M5 Recoilless.

[jaunty fjord]

how stuipd dice

[hidden sand]

That's everything tanks gotta deal with.

Minus the C4 drone, because I wrote that list yesterday.

The Wildcat is viable because it has better primaries.

[jaunty fjord]

strongly agree

[unborn herald]

c4 drone is kinda smart

but you can nerf it by making the drone weigh more

[jaunty fjord]

It turns out that dice has no ability to fix the bug of this c5 drone, and slowing it down is simply delaying the 0 cost reprieve on the tank

[elder patrol]

Or just make it so it doesn't have a stick surface for c5

[jaunty fjord]

If dice likes foot-battles and PUBG so much, why not make cod?

[jovial quest]

I only tested 3

[hidden sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/vsnfn0/new_air_raid_siren_sfx_in_breakthrough_when/

This is cool.

[jaunty fjord]

Why should dice reduce the experience of other types of players other than foot combat players?

[next onyx]

So max load.

[slate needle]

ground combat > point and click adventure vehicles

[jovial quest]

I think it might be 4

[next onyx]

Vehicles were too oppressive. If the maps were better I reckon people'd be more lenient.

You can only carry a max of 3.

[next onyx]

https://streamable.com/oyebd5

This is fucking brutal.

Those sounds.

[hidden sand]

That's not really what vehicles are though unless you're using them wrong. If you're not pushing objectives with you're teammates you're doing it wrong.

[next onyx]

Also I noticed that I instinctively slide jumped.

[hidden sand]

Huh, what's up with that, are these all new?

[slate needle]

its 100% what vehicles r

[next onyx]

They are.

They are new.

[hidden sand]

Sheesh the sound design is really improving gotta say.

[next onyx]

I got them earlier. So I tested them against Carpo.

[hidden sand]

The fucking guitar though LOL

[arctic grove]

You mean vehicles or just helis. Because the consensus now seems to be that vehicles on the ground aren't very survivable

[jaunty fjord]

Why can't Falke lose the bandage bag and use the bag himself with injections like Battlefield 5? It takes less time to use the bag and it is easier to restore blood to teammates

[next onyx]

Yeah that car just jamming.

[hidden sand]

Then you're playing them wrong.

But sadly this game doesn't allow aggressive play.

[indigo hedge]

Black Screen after any game.. someone ?

[jaunty fjord]

One reason is that dice doesn't have the ability to repair c5 drones, another reason is lis' missiles, and everyone can bring m5 and c5

[indigo hedge]

have to close the game and open again

[hidden sand]

Tanks were only ever strong in the Beta, so the only thing that's been op since launch is the helis.

People cried over the hovercraft but since I was on last gen that was never an issue.

[jaunty fjord]

Because this so-called expert system destroyed the soldier system and completely shattered the soldier profession

[arctic grove]

Why do I never encounter C5 lol

Like of course some times I get killed by it but not at an insane rate

[hidden sand]

https://i.redd.it/cz3ga93r6y991.jpg

[unborn herald]

nah man you're the one trolling now

[hidden sand]

Sheesh that m5 skin looks good.

[unborn herald]

theres no way you're saying there was never an issue witth hovercraft

[jaunty fjord]

Because you haven't experienced the feeling of the c5 drone flying all over the sky in the Asian server

[hidden sand]

"I was on last gen so that was never an issue"
Re-read next time. 👌

[next onyx]

I love that SCAR skin.

[jaunty fjord]

And some Asians also use c5 drones in European servers, I destroyed them a few times

[unborn herald]

last gen?

[next onyx]

Bit basic but I hope it comes with the sundance biome.

Yeah, Xbox one and Ps4.

[unborn herald]

what does that have to do with that

[arctic grove]

So do you use that big 120mm cannon with the range of a sniper rifle at long range, or do you drive up close to people and get C5d

Because my longest kill streaks (besides scout heli) were in a tank

[next onyx]

She was on last gen so it wasn't too much of a problem .

[sweet barn]

textures look extra potato after the update

[arctic grove]

Maybe you are playing it too aggressively

[unborn herald]

I don't understand, is it a he or she

[arctic grove]

Them

[unborn herald]

you said he last time and now you're saying she

???????

[next onyx]

I dunno.

[arctic grove]

Just say whatever you want lol

[unborn herald]

yea it would offend people tho

misgendering ]is quite serious these days

[arctic grove]

Lol soldier profession...

[unkempt tartan]

how the jets now?

read they got a little buff

[naive sandal]

Textures look terrible when in prone position

[arctic grove]

Do jets get a separate spawn now?

[unborn herald]

no

[naive sandal]

Also surprised that no one complains about the reetorded prone mechanics

[unkempt tartan]

no

[arctic grove]

Sniping is so painful on Discarded.

[unborn herald]

no one even uses jets its quite sad

[arctic grove]

Good fuck snipers

Half the time I’m looking for people to shoot and the other half I’m in unnecessarily close range battles.

[unborn herald]

even if someone uses it, they would die in 10 seconds

[unkempt tartan]

Damage Fall Off start increased from 100 -> 250

what does that mean

[arctic grove]

Had the biggest pussy of a Mackay shoot af me from like 10-15 meters away and hide for a whole minute behind a crane and then kill me.

[unborn herald]

fall damage I think

no idea

[arctic grove]

He ran away after that.

[arctic grove]

Jets are pretty survivable actually, you just don't get a lot of kills using them

I just wanna snipe man.

I don’t wanna be some bitch running around with the BSV or K30 damn it!!!

It’s like playing hide and seek, I swear.

Damn skill issues

[hidden sand]

Jets are survivable mainly because they're not very useful. So most people don't get annoyed enough to come after you.

[jaunty fjord]

Mackay and that damn aiming speed bonus

[slate needle]

snipers after spending 15 minutes finding a good spot to snipe from only to get 3 kills over the course of a twenty minute game of conq

[arctic grove]

Bro was literally camping behind a crane and peaking to get a shot.

[arctic grove]

True dat. Their only utility is agm

If I had the NTW that mfer was done for but at last I don’t have that beefy sniper yet.

They don't even necessarily need a buff, the heli shit just needs to chill out

It's funny because helis irl would get demolished

[arctic grove]

Helis should explode after one shot from an MP28.

[slate needle]

real

[arctic grove]

Definitely.

[naive sandal]

Pretty much increased weapon range - damage drop off starts at a greater distance - damage reduction starts at a greater distance

[arctic grove]

BROOOOO

Let me play Exposure breakthrough PLEASEEEE.

Stop giving me the two worst Breakthrough maps for sniping bro.

Enough with Discarded please Dice.

[jaunty fjord]

As long as the tank kills enough people, it will become an iron coffin in minutes.

[unkempt tartan]

niiiiiioce

[arctic grove]

It is only good for conquest.

[unborn herald]

is season 2 gonna release in august

[slate needle]

go to breakthrough and select it
wait till it queues and read the map name

cancel matchmaking until you get exposure

tfw no server browser

[jaunty fjord]

I guess dice is let 2042 become another type cod

[arctic grove]

Yes there are a lot of anti vehicle weapons in this game

[unborn herald]

how is it cod lol

[jaunty fjord]

lol

[unkempt tartan]

cod dont got jets...

[arctic grove]

Increased weapons range does not turn it into cod lmao what you talking about

2042 is probably as far away from cod as bf has ever been

[arctic grove]

No

[pine roost]

what's this about a blue box around tanks?

[hidden sand]

?

[jaunty fjord]

But there are only a few, but these are not restricted by the soldier system, so they will flood

[arctic grove]

Cap

Lock M5 behind a class and everyone will just use that class. Just like they did in BF4 lmfao

[slate needle]

damage falloff is when call of duty

💀

[naive sandal]

He was referring to jet 25 mm cannon buff... This sort of buff on infantry weapons would be nuts lol (unless it was underpowered)

[unkempt tartan]

fuck me been slacking on battle pass missions this week

[arctic grove]

Ohhhh 25mm buff

Niceeee

[jaunty fjord]

The continued use of the specialist system will only be the tragic end of the vehicle

[normal sundial]

Can they just give all the "engineer" classes repair tools like they gave the "medic" classes defbis

[pine roost]

in the reddit stealth changes section it says something about a blue box around tanks

[unborn herald]

doubt

[jaunty fjord]

dice really dont know how to balance

[unborn herald]

doubt theyre gonna remove specialists lol

[arctic grove]

Like 9 months later and people like you still whining about specialists

Oh bohhooo my favorite weapon is not locked behind a class I don't wanna use waaaaa

[unborn herald]

LOL

[pine roost]

it's not like the problem has gone away

[naive sandal]

Think weapon balance is pretty good in battlefront 2, dunno what's happening with bf2042

[hidden sand]

Ah yeah

https://i.imgur.com/nje1fXN.png

[sweet barn]

because its not a problem

[unborn herald]

shouldnt have bought the game if you still hate specialists

they already said theyre not gonna remove it

[hidden sand]

So you can see where the barrel is at all times

[arctic grove]

AWESOME MORE SKINS TO BUY

[hidden sand]

I was just last night wishing they'd add this lol

[hidden sand]

That's the Tier 1 skin lol.

[unborn herald]

lol

[pine roost]

but you could anyway? The crosshair was already where the tank was pointing. Is the blue box your screen centre?

[jaunty fjord]

I don't like the specialist system, if the specialist system in 2042 can be like Star Wars Battlefront 2 I will not have a problem

[hidden sand]

Nope, the crosshair didn't follow the barrel apparently. The blue box really shows this now.

[arctic grove]

Yeah i noticed lmao. Actually it os the T1 with a very subtle modification

[arctic grove]

This is a massive quality of life improvement

[high wing]

So a class system?

[pine roost]

so the yellow one is the third person crosshair, the blue is the actual barrel location?

[naive sandal]

Battlefront 2 has a fairly complex class system - one of my fav things about the game

[hidden sand]

Yup, just like BFV.

[arctic grove]

Classes sucked.

[jaunty fjord]

And the dislocation of the 2042 tank's third-person turret perspective and first-person turret perspective has not been fixed

[hidden sand]

Really glad they brought that back.

[pine roost]

hang on, i'll go test it out myself real quick

[arctic grove]

Im just suprised dice released 2 new air vehicles on portal. They couldve brought the warthog to AOW

Ughhh noooo

[jaunty fjord]

Of course if dice does this for 2042 then I'm happy too

[arctic grove]

Don't bring that shit to AOW. Just make a better plane

[little lagoon]

Aren't you the one whose never played 2042? Or am.i mixing that up

[arctic grove]

Divided the community hard with the specialists

[high wing]

Anyone here playing on old gen, how is the game in terms of performance and player count?

[arctic grove]

Specialists > classes.

[slate needle]

fax

[little lagoon]

Specialists are great

[arctic grove]

Locking weapons behind classes is stupid and arbitrary. Why the fuck can't I use an assault riffle as an engineer?

[little lagoon]

Most support ive seen in a battlefield game

[arctic grove]

Old gen has more players than current. Most people dont have the current gen.

[hidden sand]

Not really though. None of the classes have dedicated roles, it's just locked gadgets.

[arctic grove]

I own both versions of the game on xbox so i can confirm

[pine roost]

I don't think most consider the weapons to be the bad part about them, I feel like the weapon freedom is passable. It's the gadgets that ruin it for me

[slate needle]

noooo you dont get it i want my soldier to be faceless and be restricted to using 9mm submachine guns at all times !!! my immersion!!!!💀

[arctic grove]

Discarded is SO bad.

Not even exaggerating.

[arctic grove]

gadgets could work of i was locked behind classes

That is a horrible breakthrough map.

[jaunty fjord]

I wasted hundreds of hours on this 2042 shit and pointed out how stinky it really is

[little lagoon]

Discarded needs that village that's b1 in 128 in 64

[arctic grove]

Exactly. You don't get more support by locking guns to some stupid ass class. You get more support when you make the support roles more powerful. Angel is best ammo guy ever. Falck is best medic ever.

[little lagoon]

Lol it ain't stinky

[arctic grove]

discarded old gen map is bad. current gen discarded is playable

[silk surge]

I'm so fucking sick of stealth vs stealth dogfights. It's just a competition as to who has the least buggy hitreg.

[arctic grove]

I’m playing next Gen, alas I still hate this shit.

As a recon player I spend half the game LOOKING for people to shoot.

[arctic grove]

Anyone who uses an M5 now will just use the "class" that gets the M5 then. The gadget restrictions are insignificant

And when I find them I can hardly get them just barely in my scope before they go back to camping.

[jaunty fjord]

I just feel nauseous playing 2042 now, because it's like playing a goddamn degraded version of cod

[sweet barn]

then dont play it

[arctic grove]

The good sniper nests can all be EASILY accessed by campers on the enemy team.

[arctic grove]

Valid. Discarded/Breakaway/Hourglass/Kalidescope are big bad empty maps

[flat tusk]

[arctic grove]

Unfortunately that’s not how 2042 works.

[slate needle]

try not to mention cod in every message you send challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[arctic grove]

I can’t just choose what map.

Discarded is awesome, you are just shit at it so you don't like it

[little lagoon]

Bahahhaahahahahaha that's an opinion

Have you played cod recently?

[hidden sand]

You're literally wrong though lol. BFVs most played class is the medic, which has zero anti-tank capabilities.

[little lagoon]

Battlefield has never felt like cod

[arctic grove]

definitely feels that way. A larger cod warzone gamw without the royal shit. And the store with skins.... yup it feels like cod

[jaunty fjord]

The current dice doesn't know how to classify weapons according to their occupations, because what they did in 2042 was poor

[arctic grove]

Now it does

[left hollow]

I like the little sound effects they added when capturing a point

[slate needle]

battlefield players see something they dont like and attribute it to cod like some catch all boogeyman its fucking hilarious

[little lagoon]

Play cod and then tell me that.

I recently played WWII and my God i hate how cod feels

[arctic grove]

Exposure the breakthrough GOAT

[flat tusk]

Because of specialists?

[little lagoon]

Absolutely no recoil in cod

[arctic grove]

Vangard is trash tho. MW Is alot better

[little lagoon]

I'm talking WWII before cold war

[jaunty fjord]

I only played MW and it's still a shitty map

[little lagoon]

I don't pay for cod games anymore

[arctic grove]

Forgot the Superhero Parachute doesn’t work anymore.

You guys remember that?

[high wing]

the execs in charge are former cod execs so obviously its gonna be similar. especially battlepass and store UIs are just the same

[little lagoon]

Battlefield and CoD are the same in that they are shooters and have stores to buy shit in

That's it

[arctic grove]

You should read more. I was replying to the statement with the guy saying no weapons restrictions were fine, but they wanted gadget restrictions. Read that. If you have no weapon restriction, the gadget restriction will be pointless. They'll just choose the class with the gadget they want. In BFV this is totally different. In BFV weapons are restricted, so people were playing the class with the weapon they want. You "literally" can't read

[little lagoon]

And a battle pass sorry

[hidden sand]

Class balance was done really, really well in BFV and to this day it's the most amount of teamplay I've seen in a BF game.
Reviving and Ammo/Med giving was made super satisfying, and rewarded you a lot for it. I get revived at least 10+ times each time I play.

[hidden sand]

No I read it fine. I'm disagreeing with you is all.

[unborn herald]

class balance was really done well to the point where they made it p2w

[arctic grove]

It's literally a totally different case. No you didn't read lmfao

[slate needle]

class balance was done well
everyone played medic because it was the strongest

[unborn herald]

lolll

[arctic grove]

Yeah wtf. Class balance my ass. They just played the class with the gun they wanted

What planet are you on?

[jaunty fjord]

Why can't the 2042 just start with a welding gun as an engineer and put a stupid overheat setting on this thing

[arctic grove]

LMAO well see...

Live Service: check
Specialists: check
Mircrotransaction for skins: check
Battle royal: check (HZ) discontinued support.

And there totally wasn't the most teamplay in that game

[high wing]

if they made everyone able to regen health to 100 other classes wouldve been played more no?

[hidden sand]

Not even worth entertaining this honestly.

[arctic grove]

Why because you have no counterargument?

Okay "it's not worth it" LOL

[slate needle]

THE CLASSES WERE BALANCED SO WELL I LOVE THE TYPE 2A

TRUST ME

[unborn herald]

i love class balance

[little lagoon]

Type2a 😩

[unborn herald]

medic is strongest.

[cursive depot]

what did you break with patch 1.1? my FPS has gone from 90-100 to now 40-50

[haughty dagger]

If you think COD invented live service…

[slate needle]

my fault

[hidden sand]

Because I don't care to argue when you have your opinion and I have mine. Neither of us are going to agree so It's literally a waste of time lol.

[arctic grove]

We need restricted weapons so people choose a class with the weapon they want, while simultaneously ignoring their class role because they only give a fuck about the weapon. Yes yes this is how you get "teamplay"

[jaunty fjord]

It's a pity that the current dice is reluctant to bear their cooooooool spe system

[arctic grove]

Oh so it's opinions now huh? I thought I was "literally wrong" before

Mfunny how you flip flop when you are losing

[slate needle]

backpedal harder than a bmx pro

[little lagoon]

It's a shame that a majority of the battlefield fan base hates change and just wants a reskin of 3

[cursive depot]

damn you!

[hidden sand]

I mean, it is the most used class?

[jaunty fjord]

Now in 2042 there is no so-called teamwork, only damn individual sports

[hidden sand]

I don't agree with what you're saying though. There's no point in going on when you don't either.

[arctic grove]

Yeah for a reason that runs contrary to your main point 😂

[arctic grove]

No i dont think they invented live service. My point was that they are following the same model as cod.

[arctic grove]

There is a point, you just don't want to lose anymore than you have

[little lagoon]

Yeah, no. Very wrong. The most teamwork I've seen in a battlefield game

[jaunty fjord]

Who wants to play teamwork after you lift the equipment restrictions?

[little lagoon]

Get your head out of the gutter

[arctic grove]

Why you still arguing bro? I thought it wasn't worth it?

[slate needle]

oh yeah i remember the amazing teamwork that was present in the other games (i dont)

[arctic grove]

That ego is crazy bruh

[hidden sand]

What the hell

[pine roost]

my biggest complaint with specialists is the fact that there's so much inconsistency, like in bfv I was able to find the medic since their weapon type was popular and ensured they would be fighting on the frontlines, therefore there was almost always going to be a medic near me. In addition, the fact that medic is 1/4 of the classes means there's a high liklihood you will find someone who can heal you, and you ask them to.
But now that a guaranteed medic is a 1/11 chance, it's now up to completel luck whether someone will have a medic bag on them, and you can't pick out who

[arctic grove]

Everyone in your squad can revive you, Falck is super popular, angel can revive you

[sweet barn]

literally every bf medic/assault was most popular because they had best guns and means for self healing not because people picked them to support others

[unborn herald]

exactly

[slate needle]

pretty sure there is a medical icon above other players carrying health bags or with rev/healing capabilities

[arctic grove]

THIS

[slate needle]

you can def pick out who can rez

[jaunty fjord]

dice doesn't want to do soldier appearance classification, dice just wants to do spe system to sell skins of more than 10 experts

[hidden sand]

I've never seen someone go to 0 to 100 that quickly over a battlefield discussion lol

[arctic grove]

this see he gets it!

[arctic grove]

I've never seen someone flip flop as quick as you

[hidden sand]

When I'm getting revived 10+ times per match, to me that means medic was done well in BFV.

I never flipped anything though.

[arctic grove]

Yes you did

I get revived way more in 2042

Without some dumb weapon restriction

[little lagoon]

^

[arctic grove]

Don't bleed out right away = more revives

[arctic grove]

Yup. and the amount of effort they put on skins is amazing

[slate needle]

real^

[pine roost]

you would still be revived if 2042 medics were forced to use smgs. even more so in fact

[arctic grove]

Snd that's mainly because of squad revived bro, don't pretend like medica were magically more well done when they've always had the best guns in every BF game.

[slate needle]

not real

[silent cradle]

battlepass points are broken ! 3 rounds and start always on the same point as the round before !!!!

[unborn herald]

nice nickname

[hidden sand]

Because medics are the most used. That's true. Post that part of the discussion, you and I both were only telling opinions.
I never called your opinion wrong, but my perspective of medics were different than yours. I saw it as medics working well, you saw it as people choosing it for the weapons.

So no, I didn't flip anything.

[arctic grove]

It's a visual glitch you will still get those points

[silent cradle]

math at dice not so good i think

[silent cradle]

nope i dont get this points

[hidden sand]

I'm going to assume you ain't having a good day because sheesh. Never seen someone jump that fast over Battlefield. It's really not that big of a deal.

[arctic grove]

You literally said I was literally wrong wtf

[jaunty fjord]

Each class in Battlefield 5 has its own noob gun but that doesn't stop them from choosing the class they want

[hidden sand]

??? I know. Included that in the text you're replying to.

[pine roost]

honestly I think the class system we had before is genius

[hidden sand]

Our perspectives were different on why medics were so successful, so to me, you were wrong.

[jaunty fjord]

ye,but now dice just wanna sell specialist skin they dont care class sys

[unborn herald]

what about bf5 lmao

skins and class bundles

[jaunty fjord]

but bf5 still keep class sys

[little lagoon]

God damn go play v then

[unborn herald]

still better than bf5 in terms of monetization

[little lagoon]

Why are you here?

[jaunty fjord]

I would prefer to be able to make clothes of 4 classes and sell them separately

[hexed mango]

Goooooooooood morning Night City! Battlefield! yesterday’s body count wound up at a solid-n-sturdy-thirty!

[hidden sand]

Specialist were likely a thing because of the lack of equipment rather than cosmetics. Specialist aren't needed to sell them.

[arctic grove]

2042 is the only battlefield game I genuinely get giddy when I’m revived in…

Wanna know why?

Because it rarely happens.

Only Battlefield games where medics exist merely to be self sufficientZ

[unborn herald]

lack of equipment?

[arctic grove]

No, you are missing the context. If BF games had no weapon restrictions, the engineer class would be the most used class due to the rocket launcher. Medic is only used for the gun

[pine roost]

people want teamplay, classes offer that, or at least allow it to happen more often at a simple level

[hexed mango]

they should just make it so you can revive if you have a medic bag equipped

[slate needle]

2042 players bleed out immediately and then wonder why they dont get rezzed

Its Not the Game Fellas

[hexed mango]

would immediately add a few more medics

[slate needle]

Its You

[arctic grove]

Unfortunately people still wouldn’t revive.

[hidden sand]

Gadgets and weapons. There's not enough to split between them, so specialist could have stemmed from that.

[hexed mango]

eh but you’d get more chances

[arctic grove]

Angels revive more than Falcks and it’s crazy.

[unborn herald]

compare the amount of gadgets we have rn to bf5

[arctic grove]

They’d be too busy, guess what-ing

[hexed mango]

in my experience it’s the opposite

[arctic grove]

Using the med-bag to be self sufficient

[frank rain]

Yeh yeh breakthrough working for Asia

[hexed mango]

Angels always walk past my body, falcks revive

[slate needle]

why would you ever carry medbag as falck 💀

you literally have a medic gun

[hexed mango]

you wouldn’t

[jaunty fjord]

ture dud people only care themselves in 2042

[hexed mango]

you would carry med bag as angel

ammo bag as falck

ez

[jaunty fjord]

agnel does it again!

[arctic grove]

Nooo!!!

[arctic grove]

I hate that voice line!!!

Angel memes was the best thing to come out of 2042 tbh

[hexed mango]

skill issue

[arctic grove]

I hate Angel, he’s so ANNOYING!

[unborn herald]

I love that voice line!!!

[arctic grove]

His voice makes my ears bleed!

[unborn herald]

I love Angel, he's so AMAZING!

[hexed mango]

good

[arctic grove]

bruh his is way better than the other ones

[unborn herald]

His voice makes my ears comfortable!

[hidden sand]

I just don't get why specialist have unique gadgets tied to them. It's causing an issue where things like the shield and drone are something you wouldn't really pick, because other specialist can do so much more.

[hexed mango]

well what do you guys think would make people revive more?

[arctic grove]

Insert the Rock’s face.

[naive sandal]

It does have a complex class system if you consider all the different reinforcements and heroes/villains- each class serves a specific role - e.g. Droidekas are great for moving through bottlenecks to reach targets on last phase of supremacy; jetpack class makes it way easier for rebels to steal objective and escape on endor (strike); only specific classes can do well against any particular class - eg probably bad idea to engage death trooper with ewok but a wookie warrior could destroy the death trooper easily; classes have different hp (eg 150 vs 200 vs 240 vs 300 vs 450...) and yet you might be able to down a 450 hp player with a 200 hp character because weapon and gadget balance is pretty good

[arctic grove]

insert angel's face

[hexed mango]

laughs in c5 drone

[arctic grove]

They’re all overconfident people, Angel’s voice just sounds like if you have a Opossum the ability to speak.

[slate needle]

people giving me more than 2.5 seconds to come rez them would help

[frank rain]

Sundance grenade is so glitched

[arctic grove]

Class system distribution in BFV was like this
Medic - 50% of players
Assault - 30 % of players
Scout - 15% of players
Support - 5% of players

And no people aren't playing medic to revive you if you go down, only if you happen to be close, no random gives a sht about "teamplay" they just wanted to use the best guns, why you think no one played support

[arctic grove]

I think they finally crippled C5 drone.

Did we get a patch overnight???

[slate needle]

^ real

[arctic grove]

I threw C5 on my drone and that shit was painfully slow.

[arctic grove]

Indeed
Based. Real shit

IT WAS BADDDDDDDD!!!

Y'all live in fantasy land with this "classes had more teamplay" bullshit

[arctic grove]

they did. its on reddit. Someone posted a video

[arctic grove]

WHAT?!

[unborn herald]

facts

[naive sandal]

Lmao

[hexed mango]

well yeah but i meant the other way, maybe not you, but a large portion of players don’t revive, what would make it so that more people did?

[arctic grove]

5 percent support???

[hidden sand]

Seems like it'd be smarter money wise to make characters cosmetic only so no matter what you use, you can use the cosmetic/character you prefer.

The way BFV did it.

[arctic grove]

Time to remove C5 from my load out.

R.I.P. funniest 2042 strategy. 😭

i played support for the wrench and tank mines

[hidden sand]

Nobody is going to spend money on casper when he's such a waste to play.

[arctic grove]

those mines came through from me

[slate needle]

dunno tbh. the people who want to rez play medics and having squad rez still lets the non meds rez. i dont think there is a real issue tbh. people just complain like they always have

[hexed mango]

you can easily get so much xp as him tho

[arctic grove]

I don’t even know what to do now.

[pine roost]

You can be entierly self sufficient and not need to rely on teammates at all in this game

[arctic grove]

I clocked in hours on Casper just usingC5 drone.

[arctic grove]

tell that to the noobs who spend 20 bucks worth of boins for legendary skins

Now who do I main!!!!

[zealous patio]

there is an easy solution for speacialist problem just put them in classes like in bf4 give assaults RPG etc etc. you all know

[arctic grove]

God damn you devssssss!!!

[arctic grove]

Not as much anymore, I think they nerfed "spot" XP

There’s one counter to C5 drone and it’s having people be aware!!!!

Damn youuuu!

[jaunty fjord]

In 2042, everyone can be self-sufficient, why should I care about you?

[unborn herald]

without the c5 drone, casper is so useless lol

[arctic grove]

Still waiting for dice devs to sell me anime skins

[hexed mango]

yeah true, and i have noticed that it may just be people purely don’t see you, cause i’ve seen a lot of medics that revive, and a lot of squad mates revive

but also a lot that just walked over me

[hexed mango]

true

[arctic grove]

Because it is a team-based game.

[arctic grove]

Bro what.

[naive sandal]

Yo don't talk shit about casper, you flying squirrel normie

[arctic grove]

Nahhhh now he’s useless.

[hexed mango]

it’s 10xp now instead of 20

[next onyx]

Wasn't it 50.

[arctic grove]

BROOO Dice be here nerfing shit that isnt broken

[arctic grove]

Fuck Sundance, all my homies hate Sundance.

[hexed mango]

no

[unborn herald]

at launch, yes.

[jaunty fjord]

Nobody care abt teamwork but kd!

[next onyx]

Not wrong there.

[arctic grove]

Dice after placing the most broken gun at level 53 and then proceeding to force beginners to grind out hours. 🥱🥱

[arctic grove]

I mean I'm ok with that change, hopefully you won't have people laying in a field in the corner of the maps just on their drones all game

[ebon fern]

Hey anyone know if there any plans on changing vehicle physics to be more maneuverable, especially Jets?

[next onyx]

Not sure.

[arctic grove]

Bro what.

[next onyx]

But I hope there will be.

[unborn herald]

reviving should be 75xp ngl

[slate needle]

i really believe most of the time medics either cant safely get to the rez or dont have the smoke nades to move up to it. its just a matter of context and situation tbh.

[naive sandal]

Yeah, drone was slow AF already - almost as if people in vehicles have no awareness of their surroundings at all

[hexed mango]

true but what reason is there to play caper?

tbh i think they should buff him and give his drone the emp that the stealth choppers have, so it’s more ranged and useful

[arctic grove]

Honestly, hovercraft building climbing bug shouldve stayed. No one uses the hover or bolte because of how shit it is. Both got hard nerfs

[arctic grove]

They should make it 20,000,000 just so a mfer can get a revive. 👏

[jaunty fjord]

Most of the teammates I met in 2042 were basically addicted to guns or grabbing points, and basically no one cared that you down

[arctic grove]

Valid point

[arctic grove]

Oh for sure, I think his ability was overlooked completely, a rework to him is 100% needed

[arctic grove]

What side are you on here???

Self sufficient or wanting medics to revive?

[hexed mango]

plus the bolte got moved, mega nerf that shouldn’t of happened

[hidden sand]

Almost like tanks had a very, very low height limit on the turret and the drone could easily go above that.

[hexed mango]

agree

[jaunty fjord]

I support class system

[arctic grove]

same

[arctic grove]

Dude I got hella triple kills on infantry.

[jaunty fjord]

I dont like 2042 specialist sy

[hidden sand]

Besides, if you needed a c4 drone to take out tanks, idk what to tell you. Just need to improve your playstyle.

[arctic grove]

There is no excuse to that.

💀💀💀

[next onyx]

I do like how with the original class system the game can be specifically balanced.

[unborn herald]

its smart

[next onyx]

I'm not one to complain that they're trying something different.

[arctic grove]

If you die to C5 drone playing infantry you’re suffering from a skill issue.

[hexed mango]

idc if we have classes or specialists, tbh i kinda like specialists cause of fun, but i just want open load outs, no gun restrictions.

[unborn herald]

if devs wanted to nerf this, couldve made the drone weigh more by nerfing its speed

that way, it's more realistic

[hidden sand]

It's not though. It's a cheap and easy kill.

[next onyx]

But I did like how people if they wanted to go for certain guns, They would use the gadgets alongside it like a rocket launcher and TNT.

[unborn herald]

cheap?

[hexed mango]

heheh hehehe

[next onyx]

Bf5 assault with the STG 1-5 with the PIAT and TNT.

Fun mix.

[unborn herald]

its just called being smart

[pine roost]

i can understand the people who want more freedom, but for me personally I find battlefield interesting because of that team dynamic that classes create, as well as the decisionmaking that goes into playing each class

[hidden sand]

I miss BF1 dynamite, slow and short range, but super explosive.

[naive sandal]

But the tank could move tho lol (and it's actually faster than drone) - communication is important.

[unborn herald]

and you can take down drones you know

[next onyx]

And if I wanted to be hyper accurate, I go support with the Bren. I'm not made to fight vehicles it's fine.

[hexed mango]

i mean i didn’t say i was against classes. i said i didn’t care

[slate needle]

vehicle players when they 1 hit an infantry from 250 meters away: :D

vehicle players when a drone 1 hits them approaching at 3mph: D:<

[arctic grove]

I wonder how many players will stop C5 droning tanks now?

[unborn herald]

loll

[hidden sand]

Honestly if you are upset about the C4 Drone nerf you're just bad at the game. Really all there is to it.
There is dozens of other ways to take out tanks, don't see why you'd be mad over the easiest one being removed.

[unborn herald]

"bad at the game"

[arctic grove]

I don’t.

[ebon fern]

when they going to fix the jets, they are literally not playable slow and boring

[arctic grove]

BF1: The Great Grenade War

[unborn herald]

whats a wrong choice of words

[hexed mango]

this + tanks are already hella weak

[arctic grove]

I don’t care about the tanks.

[jaunty fjord]

answer is no,cuz u can use 1 c5 on drone not 3 c5 on drone

[arctic grove]

I care about gettihn multi kill on cover camping infantry losers. 😭

[slate needle]

realistically i hope tanks get some help bc they suck

but in all honesty i am REVELING in vehicle players crying

[arctic grove]

im happy it got a nerf. Tanks are trash anyways and i am a tank main

[arctic grove]

I want to revel in helicopter tears…

I feel a helicopter nerf a-comin’

[unborn herald]

it is coming either way

[pine roost]

I just want them all to be fun to play and balanced too

[naive sandal]

im not mad, i almost never c5 drone - i only do so when vehicles are being a pain in the arse and when i dont feel like using my anti-vehicle loadouts. the c5 droning is always followed by some good tbagging

[arctic grove]

Me too my dude.... me too

[arctic grove]

Bro the worst part about C5 drone being gone is I never

[slate needle]

helicopter players are my least favorite parasite

[jaunty fjord]

me too but I wanana dice fix it forver

[arctic grove]

I NEVER TOOK OUT A HELICOPTER WITH IT 😭😭😭

[hexed mango]

NB, Apache/Hokum, MBT, Jets, Bolte, LCAA all need buffs

[hidden sand]

"I only do so when vehicles are being a pain in the arse and when i dont feel like..."
And that is exactly why it was nerfed. 👌

[unborn herald]

jets desperately need a buff

and its own spawn

[hexed mango]

yep

[jaunty fjord]

I like to use the c5 to blow up the c5 on the drone

[arctic grove]

I still havent completed last week's challange of taking out 1 air vehicle 💀

[jaunty fjord]

Cuz they broken the balance

[hexed mango]

bolte should be moved out of armor to a category called Light Armor / Attack, with the Lcaa when it gets buffed
Jets should be in their own spawn

[arctic grove]

Prolly because they’re broken.

[jaunty fjord]

And I will say no c5 drone in this game

[naive sandal]

but i still think that it's pretty easy to destroy the drone with some auto gun - just need good communication among people in vehicles

[wise zodiac]

Huh. Haven't seen any EA staff today.

[hexed mango]

use Rao and AA rocket

[unborn herald]

extinct species

[hexed mango]

nobody asked

[arctic grove]

even put under recon would be ok. Bolte is worse than recon anyway. Recon can mount a 50mm. (light vehicles)

[naive sandal]

gonna c5-drone harder than before now evil laughs

[jaunty fjord]

bolte just is a mistske cuz dice cant balance it

[wise zodiac]

You mean, "nobody cares".

[hexed mango]

yeah lol

[arctic grove]

The hovy is in a good spot compared to how it was at launch lol

[naive sandal]

i like to drop mines behind tanks with bolte and bait them

[hexed mango]

it was fine at launch, op sure but that was good lol

then they severely needed it and out it into a different category

[jaunty fjord]

Im glad to see they blow up by they c5 drone

[hidden sand]

I wish they would redo the bolte and make it a light tank, like the Renault in BF1.

[arctic grove]

I care. I want to talk to a dice dev about skins.

[slate needle]

screw game balance...i want more lore

[hidden sand]

It's just a worse jeep, it provides nothing to the gameplay that the jeep doesn't already.

[naive sandal]

i managed to c5 drone a few choppers - probably gonna be impossible now

[hidden sand]

Same with the hovercraft honestly.

[arctic grove]

Jeep can carry 5 and can mount a 50mm. So it does pack a punch.

[tame cobalt]

Next bf should be half a bf3+4 remake and half new content added basically a bf3/4 revival

[arctic grove]

This is what the community wanted

[wise zodiac]

I enjoy talking to the dev team about weapons & gadgets.

I'd love to talk to them about vehicles & mechanics, but those specific teams aren't in the chat.

[arctic grove]

Fair

[arctic grove]

Can't drive a jeep up the rocket hangar on orbital to 64 waiting M5 recoilless launchers now can you

[hidden sand]

Yup. There's no reason for the Bolte and Hovercraft to be in the game because of the jeep.
But honestly, the bolte, jeep, and hovercraft shouldn't have weapons to begin with. They only do because the vehicle count was so low without them.

[slate needle]

where the lore team at. i wanna talk about what the plans are since hz is getting nothing anymore

[tame cobalt]

Sort of, idk if they wanted half the content to be straight up bf3/4 remakes... But they'd certainly like it

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah jeep is weak asf. just like the hover and bolte

[jaunty fjord]

I'd rather they have what b3 and bf4 should have rather than continue with that damn bug of 2042

[hidden sand]

I'd rather have just BF3 tbh. BF4 level design is so, so bad.

[prime smelt]

i am here to say jet need buff

[arctic grove]

If dice wanted to make easy money with little to no effort, they couldve relased an updated bf3 and bf4 and sell it to us. I wouldve bought it and be happy.

[cunning breach]

they said the same thing about bfv bf2042 too

[hidden sand]

I will never understand why people love BF4 so much.

[cunning breach]

bf4 is like the third most active bf game on console lol go play it

[arctic grove]

Classes and some of the maps were good.

[tame cobalt]

Eh, I'm sure there's a couple good maps they could cherry pick... But community would want shit like golmud

[arctic grove]

I do lmao. and i also play 2042

[pine roost]

Well I love it since it was my first battlefield, as well as my first shooter in pc. I’ve played it for years and loved it all that time

But I’ve not played 3 or any ones prior

[cunning breach]

i play bf4 bf2042 and bfv

[tame cobalt]

No

[arctic grove]

Golmund 128 would work instead of 64 tbh

[prime smelt]

1942 > all other battlefield games

[tame cobalt]

No.

Golmud 128 would just be hourglass but worse

[arctic grove]

Doubt

[jaunty fjord]

Dice can't do the balance of 128 at all, so they deleted it

[arctic grove]

simply because it has more cover than hourglass and alot smaller

[hidden sand]

You're forced to use engineer in BF4, and because of how big the maps are, being medic is essentially pointless. You'll maybe get 4 revives per match.
Vehicles are so, so boring with each of them only having one loadout that was viable (I sleep), and they were identical across factions too. The level design shares the exact same problems 2042 has as well. Big, lack of cover, and vehicle heavy.

It got better with later DLCs, but not by much.

[arctic grove]

Paracel 128 would be great too

[tame cobalt]

Because it's bf3 without vaseline across screen

[arctic grove]

Valparaiso 128 was fun.

[little lagoon]

Golmund is one of the worst maps I've ever played on

[hidden sand]

Golmud is horrible.

[little lagoon]

I hate that map

[tame cobalt]

No

[tame cobalt]

[hidden sand]

Golmud not only plays poorly, but looks horrible too.

BF4 was very much so lacking in the art direction department.

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

only map that reminds me of hourglass is silk road

its ok

but too big for 64 players

128 could work

[hidden sand]

128 would probably work well on silk road

[arctic grove]

same with dragon valley and dragon pass

could work 128

[hidden sand]

Dragon Valley was a map BF2 really missed on imo. Never understood why people loved it so much.

Operation outbreak was a good map from BF4.

Felt like a BC2 map.

[arctic grove]

the bf4 version is better but again, too big for 64.

[ebon fern]

is this real guys, my browser shows only a few servers playing caspian border portal ...? 5-6 peopl

[crimson basin]

I don't understand why we play with 64 players in Valparaiso and Arica Harbor. They were designed to be 32 player maps.

[arctic grove]

because its fun and it works

[hidden sand]

I just wish there were 32 player versions of Arica Harbour.

[fierce gull]

jesus christ the A-10 feels good

[hidden sand]

In comparison to the other jets yeah.

[arctic grove]

Rush exists. but i see what u mean.

[arctic grove]

If only they brought that to AOW

[fierce gull]

would be rusty

they gotta make A-20

[hidden sand]

I don't understand why the improved flight model for the attack jets is only available through them.

I really wish one of the devs would explain that because I'm genuinely curious as to what's preventing them.

[slate needle]

i got a genuine question
is there any reason to use the pbx after unlocking literally any other smg

it feels so terrible

[fierce gull]

cuz good devs worked on them

[slate needle]

am i running the wrong setup on it or something or is it genuinely that outclassed

[silk surge]

I haven't used it since I got it to T1. Even PP-29 with extended barrel has a lower TTK at close range.

[fiery shoal]

imo pbx is the "jack of all trades/ease of use" smg. low effort, low reward

learn any other smg and you should do better

[silk surge]

Yeah, the only upside is that its the SMG with the lowest recoil.

I think MP9 comes close in terms of recoil if I remember sym.gg's analysis right.

[hidden sand]

The MP9 is the best smg

[silk surge]

I mainly use PP-29, it's such a good all-rounder.

[slate needle]

yeah i figured it was like
baby's first smg

good to know that im not wrong in thinking its terrible lmao

[fiery shoal]

i wouldnt call it terrible, just compared to other smgs that perform way better or are more niche its lacking

its like a 8/10 smg while the others are 9/10

[silk surge]

Yeah basically

[naive sandal]

Sound feedback when capturing objective is now obnoxiously loud???

[slate needle]

i'll probably still try and get it to t1 since i got all the other smgs there

[hidden sand]

I'm surprised more people don't use the MP9.

[slate needle]

mp9 shreds
that damage falloff range is crazy

[hidden sand]

It has ridiculous range on it.

[silk surge]

I like it tbh. Gives me BF3/4 vibes

[fiery shoal]

i think most people just fall into the vectors "lul smg go brrrrr" meme

[slate needle]

vector also is crazy tho
wish there was an mp7

give me an mp7 it will be all i use

[grizzled whale]

so i heard they buffed the BSV-M

[silk surge]

Its probably one of the most used weapons ingame lol

[naive sandal]

But I want to hear incoming enemies lol, I even disabled music

[hidden sand]

Not on last-gen in my experience. I'm never killed by it.

[fiery shoal]

buffed all DMRs, which yea, means BVS as well

[silk surge]

You disabled WHAT!?

[hidden sand]

Skipper you've been gone for a bit huh

[grizzled whale]

yeah

[silk surge]

You don't disable the music in a Battlefield game. What's wrong with you??

[grizzled whale]

i kinda lost interest after finishing all weapons

[hidden sand]

Fair

[hexed mango]

you're gonna have a lot more to work on soon

[naive sandal]

Lol guess what I also disable music in battlefront (the soundtrack is so good)

[grizzled whale]

why

[silk surge]

You monster.

[fiery shoal]

agree DMRs needed a buff of sorts, but not the BSV as well

[hexed mango]

cause portal guns are being ported to aow

[grizzled whale]

oh god

[naive sandal]

I gotta hear dem footsteps

[grizzled whale]

please no

[hexed mango]

BSV just needs a close range nerf

[hidden sand]

@grizzled whale

[fiery shoal]

i dont see how they cant see how the BSV is good up close so nerf those numbers but also make it better at range like they did

[silk surge]

PP-2000 grind goes brrr

[hidden sand]

I've been trying to figure out what they meant by Traversal being on par with current gen.

It feels the exact same as it did pre-patch.

[burnt kettle]

has 1.1 made a difference in your opinions?

[hexed mango]

difference on what?

[burnt kettle]

general gameplay I guess

[hexed mango]

i mean im enjoying it as always. i havent played too much 1.1 cause my internet is ass, only tested out the A-10

[grizzled whale]

More like m98b grind go brrt

[hexed mango]

but Hind nerf is sure to be good

[hexed mango]

M16

[grizzled whale]

Shut

[silk surge]

Oh that too.

[hexed mango]

[grizzled whale]

Idk if im gonna commit to t1ing all of them

Thats like what, another 30 weapons or so?

[hexed mango]

something like that

[grizzled whale]

Yeah nah

That will cost me peripherals

[silk surge]

Stealth heli super balanced as usual

[hexed mango]

lol

[hexed mango]

always

[grizzled whale]

Stop using choppers cakesmite

You are better than that

[hexed mango]

stealth chopper is how apache and night bird should be

[silk surge]

Pff no am not

[hidden sand]

What the hell, did they not increase the recharge for AGMs?

[hexed mango]

cause of joe

[hidden sand]

I just got hit by 3 agms from the same stealth heli in the span of 14 seconds.

[hexed mango]

good.

stealth heli should stay as it is

[hidden sand]

Stealth helis can now take you down to 30 health in a tank in the span of 4 seconds, thanks DICE 👌

[hexed mango]

just buff tanks

dont nerf anything.

ez

or.

get better. stop lacking skill.

[wide shore]

Did the fix the 30mm not overheating bug?

[hidden sand]

No.

[silk surge]

Is that a bug? I thought DICE was fucking with us.

[hidden sand]

Yes it's not intentional.

[digital portal]

Nice

[wide shore]

I mean, dual 30mm’s shouldn’t be able to just fire indefinitely

[silk surge]

Why not

[wide shore]

Great. They fixed the transports now people are just gonna go 100-0 in the stealth helis

[hexed mango]

Exactly. Why not.

[silk surge]

Do you hate fun?

[wide shore]

Because it’s fucking stupid

[hidden sand]

They buffed agms too so you can be knocked out in about 5 seconds in a tank. 👌

[hexed mango]

get better suika

[wide shore]

That thing can already ignore lock-ons in stealth mode. Can have flares as well. Has an unlimited supply of bombs that it can use while unable to be locked on, and can fire dual 30mm guns indefinitely. It’s fucked

[hexed mango]

too much to one side or the other, and it falls

[hidden sand]

I'm this 👌 close to dropping the game because of DICEs inability to balance anything.

[silk surge]

Yeah, but I want to T1 it first, then we can talk about nerfs.

[hidden sand]

It's so frustrating

[wide shore]

It’s literally always something.

First it was hovercrafts. Then boltes. Then Nightbirds. Then transport tanks(helis). Now stealth helicopters.

[mossy badge]

Play something fun and better than

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bamxA.gif

[hidden sand]

They don't know how to balance, it's impossible for them clearly and itll likely never be improved.

I cannot believe they thought AGMs essentially being able to fire together was a good idea.

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bQPk2.gif

[wide shore]

I just don’t know who thought it would be a good idea to give stealth helicopters flares.

They do not need them. It just makes it impossible to kill them

[hexed mango]

the solution to all problems....

Rao.

[wide shore]

Yes. Cause Rao’s hack has just fantastic range.

[lament plank]

Lol what??? They don’t? You fire one, then still have to wait a few seconds for some reason, and then even both of them don’t do enough damage to kill it unless you actually have a gunner

[hidden sand]

I just got knocked down to 34 HP in 4 seconds by 2 of them. That is insanely quick.

[wide shore]

I was playing BT on Kaleidoscope the other day. And there was a dude on attack the whole game flying wayyyy up in the sky just dropping bombs on the defenders. And nobody could do shit. Can’t hack him cause he’s too high up. Can’t spam stingers at him cause guess what? He’s on stealth mode.

But hey, he dropped 80 kills so fuck us

[lament plank]

I mean unless they buffed their speeds today, but the damage self repairs enough before they can even reload

[hidden sand]

They did buff them.

[lament plank]

Ah well it went live while I was asleep, and only just got home. But was that from a jet or attack or stealth

[hidden sand]

Stealth heli.

Jets would be even worse though, because at least you can occasionally bonk helis with the cannon.

[wide shore]

Idc what any heli camper says. Stealth helicopters should be 1 hit with Lis’ rocket.

It’s already hard as fuck to hit them

[hidden sand]

The hell

[hexed mango]

Rao + AA

[hidden sand]

Wait a sec, has anyone used the 50mm since the patch?

[wide shore]

As I just said, they can literally just ignore any Rao players by flying up high enough

[hexed mango]

yeah but hacking them removes stealth, giving WC a chance... yes they could go up high, but sometimes they could be vulnerable

[hidden sand]

I just watched the 50mm shoot slightly slower than before, on the hind. It was still decimating infantry. What were the changes they made to it even?

[wide shore]

And with how shit the lock on system is, sometimes by the time you hack a helicopter, and get a lock on it, they’re not hacked anymore and can just pop flares. Cause stealth helicopters should just have flares too

[lament plank]

I mean considering the WC turret doesn’t even turn fast enough to track a stealth heli, or any air vehicle when it gets to close…

I got taken out by a stealth heli in WC last night because even though my camera was facing it, the physical movement of the turret with 30mm wouldn’t catch up. So he just go to circle me and pound me with missiles. Feels great.

[wide shore]

I’m not sure I haven’t tested it yet.

[hidden sand]

It honestly didn't look that different from before.

I'm hoping this is a fluke.

[wide shore]

They’re fucked man. Expect people to flock to it

[hidden sand]

Not necessarily if the 50mm is still op. I'm gonna try to test it.

[hexed mango]

i mean it got slowed

[wide shore]

With full auto 30mm’s that don’t overheat. AGMs. Flares and a stealth mode that still allows you to drop mini nukes. The thing is the new Flying Fortress.

[pine roost]

I thought they'd change the 50mm so it was like a tank cannon, fire then wait a while for the next shot

[round goblet]

anyone else getting insane stuttering after the last update?

last patch worked flawlessly for me, now i'm getting really bad stuttering

[wide shore]

That’s what I was hoping for

[lament plank]

Speaking of 30mm that overheat, the WC canons should not overheat nearly as fast as they do

[hexed mango]

what is it actually tho?

[wide shore]

Idk I haven’t tried it yet

[fierce jetty]

Hello all do you have bug with bf2042 since the update 1.1 ?

[hexed mango]

oh because that's basically what they said it is rn, more cannon like

[pine roost]

it just has a slower fire rate, that's basically it

[hidden sand]

God damnit.

[pine roost]

about half of it's previous rate

[hexed mango]

less than half

[steady pewter]

omfg are you for real my FPS has gone out the window AGAIN

[lament plank]

I mean sure slow the canon but…the mini guns are what shred aircraft…making them basically flying AA

[pine roost]

i'll get a clip in a sec

[hexed mango]

like a third

[steady pewter]

from solid 60 to fucking 30-40

[hexed mango]

skill issue

[steady pewter]

i have totally fine hardware to run this game

and it keeps getting thrown back at me

[arctic grove]

Dice at it again with the optimization

[pine roost]

oh nvm, i don't even have the cannon unlocked lol. I just don't like using it

[hidden sand]

Yup, just got beamed by the 50mm.

GG DICE.

[pine roost]

the nightbird still hasn't had it's controls fixed yet

[hexed mango]

skill issue

[pine roost]

so there's still a ways to go before I consider coming back, onwards to next patch!

[lament plank]

Beamed? I mean yeah sure a direct hit will probably kill you. But if they miss then they probably can’t follow up?

[hidden sand]

It's very easy to hit tanks with the 50mm.

But I mean, that's what I was killed by anyhow.

[fierce gull]

woah

[arctic grove]

get eem outta here

what a weirdo

[steady pewter]

moderadors he post naughty link!!! !!!111!!

[lament plank]

I mean I got shredded by a hind last night while in WC, again because the hind got so close it could just hover circles around me with 50mm and my turret (again) doesn’t move fast enough to react, even if I’m moving it at max speed

[hidden sand]

Why couldn't they have just removed the 50mm.

[arctic grove]

what kind of naughty link???

[lament plank]

Hind should have had rocket pods instead of canons anyways.

[fierce gull]

when are they gonna make bots ride jets

[hidden sand]

I really wish one of the vehicle designers could explain why they thought they should keep the 50mm.

Tanks are impossible now thanks to the buff agms got and the 50mm still being as powerful.

Just remove tanks if you want them to be this unplayable tbh.

[steady pewter]

legitimately got 42 fps.

this is atrocious

how can a patch that afaik made no performance adjustments, shaft fps this much