battlefield-2042

[ocean isle]

That be like $20 for legendary

[hexed mango]

"skeleton crew"
also blatantly ignores the fact that multiple different EA/DICE CMs speak on twitter, and here

[magic harness]

And that’s logical

[hexed mango]

the last one was 1.75k Boins

[magic harness]

More money is to be made in other games now

[arctic grove]

skeleton crew can mean 20 people working on it

and dice is a studio with 700+ employees

[magic harness]

They will save face and lie of course

[hexed mango]

bro both of you are clowning so hard

[lucid goblet]

ah quoting henderson i see..... well

[arctic grove]

LMAO

[hexed mango]

literally is the opposite of a skeleton crew but ok!
if you want to lie to yourself, continue

[arctic grove]

dice themselves published a document detailing how many people work at their stockholm studio

[magic harness]

It’s just the output

[arctic grove]

albeit that was in 2021

[tame cobalt]

There is also money to be made from saving the reputation of their flagship franchise... By continuing to improve 2042

[magic harness]

Either very few people are working or they are incompetent

[arctic grove]

apparently any kind of information thats not ea pr jargon is tom henderson

look who the real clown is

[low timber]

Ex Dice dev Jaqub said that Dice is not 700 people

[hexed mango]

tom henderson is an unofficial media reporter, his literal job is to gain attention

[lucid goblet]

sure thing... now if you've got nothing better to contribute than inaccurate "facts" please move on

[arctic grove]

its a pdf document dont worry

[hexed mango]

bruh

[hexed mango]

honestly since its from you, i have nothing but worry.

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/moment-of-silence-pay-respect-rip-rest-in-peace-bow-gif-15963301

[low timber]

You broke the Matrix

[arctic grove]

you are so in denial

[hexed mango]

yet it did this

[arctic grove]

i present you actual facts straight from dice

and you dismiss it as "unofficial" lmao

[tame cobalt]

[hexed mango]

you're the one trying to disprove, im accepting the fact that your opinion is trash

[arctic grove]

????

[tame cobalt]

"not 700 people" what a mindblowing fact

[ocean isle]

Go to battle pass does it show ur tier 72

[hexed mango]

nah its still not loading

the number saays 72

but no BP exists

[ocean isle]

U said on top right at lobby it show zero but ur in lobby it show ur 72

[lucid goblet]

best just get onto ea help live chat

[hexed mango]

yeah after a game it went back to the correct number

[arctic grove]

its literally the swedish game developers index

[hexed mango]

ye im loading help rn

[arctic grove]

actually i've just checked and it seems that even wikipedia contains the info about 700 employees at dice as well

[tame cobalt]

You do know there's a pretty HUGE difference between "less than 700 people" and "skeleton crew" right?

[arctic grove]

i said that dice is a studio with over 700 employees

[tame cobalt]

O

[arctic grove]

and that there is no way in hell 500 are working on 2042 and pumping out this abysmal quantity of content in 8 months

[low timber]

Said by Jaqub Ajmal on Twitter:

DICE is not 700 people. The number you are referring to is EA/DICE/Frostbite/Other support staff for EA in Stockholm

[arctic grove]

the swedish game developers index says otherwise

with info straight from dice

[tame cobalt]

Yeah, well a studio in the process of restructuring is not exactly going to have stellar output during that process. This is not rocket science

[arctic grove]

restructuring???

thats no excuse

they have had 8 months

[tame cobalt]

Actually it is

[arctic grove]

dice.se is official dice site, right?

[hexed mango]

i just 'd the guy

[arctic grove]

https://www.dice.se/careers#:~:text=DICE Studio is proud to,but a close intimate community.

so, it seems it's 350 developers?

[ocean isle]

U think tomorrow it went back to normal

[arctic grove]

number of employees in sweden: EA DICE - 714

and there is only one dice studio in sweden, the stockholm one

[tame cobalt]

Damn, DICE's website says only 350 of the 700 employees are amazing, that's kinda harsh

[arctic grove]

im not making this up or getting this from tom henderson or whatever

this is straight from dice via the swedish game developers index

[magic harness]

Don’t worry they don’t have a Skeleton crew , everyone is working on it so should be fixed in 6-8 months

[hexed mango]

of the ones making the games
...

this chat got busted real quick

[tame cobalt]

"DICE Studio is proud to have 350 amazing people building innovative and engaging products for the world to enjoy. The Stockholm office is home to roughly 700 employees and growing"

Anyone know what this means?

[arctic grove]

ok lets say we have 350 people working on 2042

[hexed mango]

which part

[arctic grove]

thats still fucking terrible

1 map and 2 guns in 8 months

[tame cobalt]

What does the other half of the employees do then

[arctic grove]

probably other stuff idk

[stoic creek]

No shit

I still can't be on russia

[arctic grove]

probably tech support/general EA employees that aren't really dice, no idea

[hexed mango]

well the 700 total includes probably marketing, design, executives, etc

350 of which are actual game designers / devs

[stoic creek]

It's taking a fuckin hour

[undone bone]

Marketing, media management, support ect.

[arctic grove]

so was i lying then about dice being a studio with over 700 employees?

was i speaking out of my ass?

[ocean isle]

Oh u mean the battle pass glitch and it fix 6-8months?

[tame cobalt]

No

[arctic grove]

tell that to your mod

[magic harness]

Bruh you just burst a bubble

[arctic grove]

and the other guy in denial and calling me a liar

[magic harness]

Nah I was joking

Idk when

[stone cradle]

Other 350 are not game devs, but doing other roles like QA, marketing, communication, team management, HR etc.

[arctic grove]

i wanna see what you got to say

because i was proven right

[stoic creek]

Then who's working on it how many people

[lucid goblet]

@hexed mango https://twitter.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1541711725526925313?s=20&t=UhfPZlNHj2mRYpYnNkv-TQ

Battlefield Direct Communication (@BattlefieldComm)

We're aware that some players had been briefly unable to view the Battle Pass screen, Battle Pass level, and Weekly Missions

A fix has just been deployed to resolve this, and we're seeing a return to normality

You may need to restart your game to reflect these changes

Twitter · Jun 28, 2022, 9:14 AM

[arctic grove]

i was lying about dices employee count hmm?

tom henderson you say?

[hexed mango]

ah nice

[arctic grove]

"inaccurate facts"

[hexed mango]

right as i started talking to the EA help person

[arctic grove]

💀

[lucid goblet]

where exactly? all i see is you having no clue and spouting that there's a "skeleton crew" and 700+ people....

[magic harness]

Bruh their only counter is , no you’re wrong and no counter sources

[stoic creek]

I can't be on Russia's side in solo

I'm just being us

[arctic grove]

you told me i was spreading incorrect facts while saying that dice has over 700 employees

[stone cradle]

You need to work harder to get the sense of "pride and accomplishment"

[hexed mango]

just get better ez

[hexed mango]

hehehehaw

[ocean isle]

Did it work I’m restart my system

[arctic grove]

now is a good time to eat your words

[lucid goblet]

no, i said you were stating incorrect facts over there being a skeleton crew....

[hexed mango]

ima boot up again

[tame cobalt]

I think i get it. The Stockholm office has multiple departments:

• DTS (Development Technology & Services)
• Frostbite
• MCO (Marketing Commercial Organization)
•SEED

in addition to the "DICE Studio" department which has 350 people

[arctic grove]

except i didnt perpetuate it as fact

i perpetuated it as being very likely whats going on at dice rn

with all the evidence to back it up

actions speak louder than words

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-ross-yeah-right-big-eyes-i-dont-believe-you-gif-12376258

[arctic grove]

i dont care if ea keep lying about it in their pr

actions speak louder than words

[hexed mango]

i'd love to work at dice in like 5 years when im out of college

and then braindead
and then tired
and dead x2

[arctic grove]

Hey I wanted to ask a question here. I played on the free weekend when the game released and decided not to buy it then, 2 days ago I heard the game had a major boost in fps so I decided to buy it and turns out, not the case. Anyway I contacted support for a refund and explained the situation, they said that I played more than 2 hours so no. Is it pointless to send a new and longer support ticket or am I simply screwed?

[hexed mango]

imagine not getting 100fps

[arctic grove]

40

[ocean isle]

But u from Sweden?

It say Sweden on the dice website

[hexed mango]

no :(

they have remote jobs and a location in LA tho

[stoic creek]

@hexed mango man be quite I got a 3090

[hexed mango]

quiet*

[stoic creek]

Bruh

[lucid goblet]

through steam i take it? then i doubt you'll get anywhere if you've played over the allotted time

[hexed mango]

LA is probably ripple tho on Ea's job site it just says dice

[ocean isle]

U cant really work at dice if u not from Sweden right?

[arctic grove]

Damn man

[undone bone]

Imagine needing 100fps. PC moment.

[hexed mango]

im pretty sure you can, not at their offices in sweden of course

[hexed mango]

i dont

but i get it

:)

[arctic grove]

Well thanks for the help anyways.

[undone bone]

[lucid goblet]

some staff are based in the UK/USA/romanina and other countries afaik

[hexed mango]

AHHH battlepass Battlepass so glad to have you back!

[ocean isle]

It work now u can view battle pass

[stoic creek]

WHY CANT I BE ON RUSSIAS SIDE NOT US

[arctic grove]

some studios can help their employees to immigrate to the country in which their office is, idk if dice is one of them though

[honest comet]

as with most games u cant play a lot and then ask refund lol

[hexed mango]

anyways ima go to sleep

[ocean isle]

Did u restart the system or u exit the game and u join it back

[hexed mango]

just restart game

as it says in the tweet

[arctic grove]

why not

[ocean isle]

oh ye

[stoic creek]

IDK

[hexed mango]

You may need to restart your game to reflect these changes

[stone cradle]

DICE LA exists

[hexed mango]

that's Ripple Effect

[arctic grove]

its ripple effect now

dice la is long gone

[stone cradle]

yes ik but I will always call em dice la

[hexed mango]

which is technically just under EA now

[lucid goblet]

New Seattle studio also

[hexed mango]

im closer to LA

[honest comet]

dice changed name?

[hexed mango]

although there was on the website a SF office, dunno what that is

[hexed mango]

no, just Dice LA studio

[ocean isle]

It show white underneath the free tier

[lucid goblet]

DICE LA is now Ripple Effect, the folks behind Portal https://twitter.com/RippleEffect

Ripple Effect Studios (@RippleEffect)

Official Twitter account of Ripple Effect Studios, developers on #Battlefield 2042. Now hiring!

Followers

10752

Tweets

32

Twitter

[stone cradle]

there's also ghost who became EA Gothenburg(probably because they kind of sucked at making the newer NFS)

[tame cobalt]

Poor seattle studio, tasked with making the story for a game whose players don't care about story

[ocean isle]

Mine doesn’t mine say free

[hexed mango]

yep

[hexed mango]

yeah there's supposed to be white text

i dunno why the background of mine is white...

[ocean isle]

That odd mine say free underneath

which it is white and green text which meant to be

[tame cobalt]

If they wanna put story in 2042, they should just do BF1 operations i guess

[ocean isle]

Mine doesn’t have white text

[hexed mango]

ik.

[stone cradle]

I really hope next time they don't let criterion touch vehicles, they feel awful in this game.

[ocean isle]

so I’m all good

[arctic grove]

i wonder what happened to their love letter to fans

portal

[hexed mango]

idk
i kinda like them.
but that's just me and i dont matter

anyways, good night

[stone cradle]

or just give us war stories again, small stories in each part of the world, make it feel like there's a conflict going on around the world.

[tame cobalt]

They are considering making a level editor for it instead of adding more maps. Would be sick if the level editor is well made.

[arctic grove]

but aside from that

what have they done to portal since launch

[tame cobalt]

Waste of resources tbh

[honest comet]

man i miss the burnout series from criterion

[arctic grove]

wdym, valve were the guys behind portal

||just joking||

[honest comet]

why criterion stoped making burnout games

[stone cradle]

Oh yeah forgot about that, hope they add alot of customisation to it, then people will make some killer maps.

[honest comet]

paradise city was huge hit back then

and after it nothing

[stone cradle]

probably because they thought of NFS as the most important focus for racing games.

[tame cobalt]

Yeah. I think a big question on their minds is if people will actually play portal tho. I think rental servers could help with that

If people aren't gonna use portal then they won't spend resources to make a level editor

[honest comet]

ah they big enough to make both

[stoic creek]

Exposure breakthrough is giving me russia

But the others aint

I'm bouts snap this disc in half

[tame cobalt]

[honest comet]

who wants to be russia anyway lol

[stoic creek]

New heli

See how bad it is

[honest comet]

looks to me same as the counterpart

[stoic creek]

And I bet once I get us I can be russia

I JUET GOT RUSSIA AND U BACKED OUT

[tame cobalt]

Big problem with portal custom servers is there's no reliability with finding a quality experience. So i think rental servers would solve that issue and lead to higher player counts on custom servers

[stoic creek]

I'ma fuckin break this tv

[honest comet]

lol

why tv tho?

[stoic creek]

YES

BECAUSE

IT BUGS OUT AND TURNS OFF ALL THE TIME

[honest comet]

ah thats an f

[stoic creek]

I GOT RUSSIA

Now to see how new heli is

[tame cobalt]

And with level editors they could put some of the popular fan made maps in the official weekly experiences or whatever

[stoic creek]

Good or bad💀

[honest comet]

thwre u can be happy now

🙂

[stoic creek]

After 2 hours of trying

[honest comet]

well i dont really care what faction i play unless it comes to jets

also why tf ru and us both use wildcat lol

[stoic creek]

Jets are bad tho

Somehow helis can shoot em

[stone cradle]

no-pats

[stoic creek]

In reallife they can't cuz of how fast they are

[tame cobalt]

So ye, portal can definitely thrive with a level editor and some overall improvements, even if they don't add more official content.

[honest comet]

yeah but then also they use different helis and jets and tanks

[tame cobalt]

The level editor just has to be good enough to let me make ballroom blitz and argonne forest in it

[honest comet]

but same jeeps, wildcat,transport mav

makes no sense

is it so hard to make russian version of wildcat and jeep? lol

[tame cobalt]

Gonna make fort de vaux 2042 edition with a level editor

[low timber]

You are putting a bit too much faith on a level editor having that much detail available.

[tame cobalt]

If they wanna make a level editor they should do it properly

Otherwise just add more legacy maps

Even if it's gonna be an ugly version of fort de vaux with some 2042 assets slapped together to make it, it should let me make it

[honest comet]

its about havin fun right? 🙂

[tame cobalt]

yuh

IMO they should just port some bf1 and bfv maps to 2042 since it will theoretically be the easiest to do (assets are already high quality) and then dedicate some resources to a proper level editor for the next bf.

[honest comet]

true dat

but anyway im here to mostly play new maps

[tame cobalt]

[honest comet]

got both bf1 and V if i want to play those

[tame cobalt]

1 and V ded in my region

[honest comet]

oh

isnt V havin like more players then 2042?

[tame cobalt]

Some 1 and V maps would be really beneficial for the breakthrough mode tho. Those games got some solid breakthrough maps

[tame cobalt]

Not here

[honest comet]

ah

[low timber]

Those games were the only games with breakthrough so far, not counting Bad company 2 Onslaught PvE.

[honest comet]

2042 atm has breaktrough

[arctic grove]

consistently so

2042 is already declining on steam

[low timber]

Yeah but 2042 is already in Portal

1 and V are not.

[fossil trench]

4 isn’t either

[arctic grove]

10.7k people playing BFV and 4.6k playing BF2042

[sweet barn]

bf5 has also been on sale for like 5$ multiple times and is full of chinese players because no anti cheat

the player numbers are inflated from chinese

[honest comet]

true that

[sweet barn]

i mean just look at the steam community hub for bf5

[low timber]

BF4 didn’t have breakthrough

[sweet barn]

full of posts/guides in chinese

they have taken over

[still vault]

that would be a discussion for #battlefield-legacy-titles - also BF5 does have anticheat, that is not really up for debate, its effectiveness however can be

[sweet barn]

the discussion was about 2042 vs bf5 player numbers on steam so not really offtopic

[arctic grove]

https://steamcharts.com/app/1238810#All
wait, did bf5 release to steam only in 2020 year and was origin-exclusive before?

[still vault]

the player number discussion is silly as well, Steam is only 1 of many platforms and ofc. player numbers go down some time after a battlepass is released

[honest comet]

indeed

where is xbox,playstation

[stoic creek]

I'd be dead if fortnite players join 2042💀

Tiny kids._.

[still vault]

and epic and origin

[sweet barn]

weird that the game is not on EA play or gamepass yet

[stoic creek]

Trying to crank

90's

[arctic grove]

battlepass released this month though, right? The peak amount of players for bf2042 was 14k this month anyway, and for bf5 this same month — 19k

also it seems that there just aren't really any reliable trackers for other platforms on how many players currently play, probably

[stone cradle]

yeah fifa 22 is on there now, not 2042.

[stoic creek]

Imagine if fortnite kids get on 2042 because of the battlepass💀

Trying to crank 90's

[still vault]

2042 has crossplay and its working great, not really worried about having people to play with for quite a while

[silk surge]

I like to assume that Steam makes up roughly 20% of the overall playerbase, which would mean that 2042 peaked at 75k players online this month.

[arctic grove]

in this case, by this logic, BFV peaked at 100k then though

[silk surge]

Yeah

I'm glad that BFV is still doing well. I like to jump into that game from time to time, and it's nice that there are pages after pages of full servers on Playstation.

[stoic creek]

BFv on ps4 is dead as fuck

Ps3*

[silk surge]

Not in my region

There are a bunch of breakthrough and conquest servers up at any given time.

[arctic grove]

i didn't even know that bfv released on ps3

[silk surge]

It didn't.

[arctic grove]

on ps4 it's very much alive at least in europe

[obsidian elk]

I just got the Hind skin

it's so baller

[mossy badge]

crossplay saved this game

[pulsar condor]

Tier 1 ?

Ir battlepass

[obsidian elk]

Battlepass

it looks really pretty

I'm not much of a fan of the tier 1 hind

If it changed the cockpit color then yes

[stray gale]

looking for transport chopper squad

[honest comet]

looking for personal medic lol

[stray gale]

hey i could do that for u

[honest comet]

i was jokin, but sure we can play sometimes if u on ps5 🙂

[stray gale]

its cross platform lol

im on pc

[honest comet]

tru

tbh idk how to add pc players to my party lol

[stray gale]

whats ur gamertag

[honest comet]

crowarrior1

[stray gale]

do you have an ea games name?

[tame cobalt]

My only issue with specialist system is being forced to play old lady if u wanna be medic

Well the whole character aspect of the system is dumb

But I don't mind it too much

[upper tendon]

My issue was that there was no way to play a real engineer. But now we have Lis but it feels like she is only half of what the engineer has been before, because she only has 2 rockets and you cant even kill a tank alone.

[tame cobalt]

C4

But ye

[tame cobalt]

U want anti vehicle + repair tool?

[upper tendon]

@tame cobalt Before Lis you just couldnt play rocket launcher and repair tool at the same time.

[tame cobalt]

My idea for a solution: make a specialist that has EOD bot gadget, and as their perk they always have repair tool gadget and can choose an additional different gadget.

What do u think

[vocal adder]

Well specialists are getting reworked in season 2 aren't they don't know if it's just a few or all of them

[tame cobalt]

@hexed mango they fixed it

battlepass

[tame cobalt]

Nice

Hopefully dozer rework

He seems kinda useless imo, maybe just me

Ngl tho, skins that cover the face do a good job of fixing the issue of clone characters running around

I hope they ditch the "established characters with backstories" concept in the next game, not a fan, didn't like it in BFV either

Just feels so... illogical to have it in battlefield

[vocal adder]

Why does he need a rework he's perfectly fine

[tame cobalt]

idk what his purpose is really

The "teammates can stand behind my shield" concept is ok, but that requires voice coordination, and IMO battlefield teamplay should be designed to work without any voice coordination. Battlefield is basically THE "teamplay without voice chat" game series, so the design should lean into that imo,

[vocal adder]

He's a very good pusher character when you see that shield people panic

[tame cobalt]

he seems only useful in that way in 1v1 scenarios though

If there's more than one person you can easily get shot from the side

No?

Idk don't have a ton of experience with him

[gloomy wyvern]

No need, just adjust your sensitivity and then you have the nuisance players I go against

[vocal adder]

Dozer can fuck tons of players up if they not paying attention haha

[tame cobalt]

huh

Also his skins should apply to his shield as well (or do they?)

[vocal adder]

No they don't

[tame cobalt]

Yeah that's an L

[gloomy wyvern]

I would like to see the outcome of a server hosted petition for reverting the changes made to they lord: "Angel"

One for the move

And

One against the move

[tame cobalt]

Against

[vocal adder]

What happened to angle ?

[gloomy wyvern]

For

[gloomy wyvern]

Removed his self armor

[tame cobalt]

Doesn't give armor

[gloomy wyvern]

Unless revive or you are veteran

[tame cobalt]

wdym veteran

[gloomy wyvern]

"Irish" - Kimble Graves

[vocal adder]

Dozer seems more the guy to give armour tbh

[gloomy wyvern]

Don't worry tho, if one squad has thy lord Angel & Irish then they lord can only give a max of 15 armor till cool down ends

[tame cobalt]

So angel can give armor to irish?

[gloomy wyvern]

Correct, veteran gives him that ability

[tame cobalt]

hmmm,

interesting idea but armor should just be removed entirely

[vocal adder]

i think its wise for armour to be removed also

[next onyx]

The weird thing is that I got armour from a Falck as Irish.

[tame cobalt]

Overheal

[next onyx]

But maybe that was a misinterpretation?

[gloomy wyvern]

No, unless we dropping armored vehicles & vehicles entirely

[tame cobalt]

Skill issue

[gloomy wyvern]

My response for everyone who hated thy lord

[tame cobalt]

[mental delta]

100 times yes

[tame cobalt]

[gloomy wyvern]

@tame cobalt this is coming from an arial nuisance....

[empty vortex]

how do i mute the text chat if im on ps5? all i see is trolls spamming it every match...

[tame cobalt]

Just fix aerial nuisance problem

Not by removing vehicles entirely

[gloomy wyvern]

Then keep armor

[tame cobalt]

No

[gloomy wyvern]

Then drop mech war

[tame cobalt]

Titanfield

[hidden sand]

That Falck was just determined to get more xp

She wasnt going to let game mechanics stop her

[little lagoon]

The stealth heli is fucked.

[pulsar condor]

If it gets hacked it's dead

It's easy to destroy

[hidden sand]

Only because the 30mm is bugged

[little lagoon]

Lol you think people use rao

[hidden sand]

Use rao yourself? Lol

[arctic grove]

there is only two people using rao

[little lagoon]

I very rarely see him, and even then people won't know to shoot it down cause no one gives a fuck

It's irritating

[hidden sand]

Shoot an AA missile yourself

That'll bring half it's health down

[arctic grove]

or blast it with your rocket

AT

[vocal adder]

Maybe its time to bring back the aa stuf that battlefield v had around the map haha

[hidden sand]

Only if it's not as op as BFVs

[prisma hinge]

f14a in war thunder out rates a mig21

[tame cobalt]

Only if it's more op

[pulsar condor]

It was bs in bf 5 the aa placements , camping **** 24/7

[arctic grove]

its for planes man and they do look up in the sky

[tame cobalt]

Ye

[pulsar condor]

But hey , they said they will put the jet slot separate from helis soon

[vocal adder]

that's pretty great if they do

[hidden sand]

That's not what they said, just that they're "looking into it."

[vocal adder]

if if they do it they still need aa placements across the map or allow a specialist to build them

[arctic grove]

it can be something like a sentry

[hidden sand]

I don't really think AA implacements are needed. Vehicles just need to be balanced better.

[arctic grove]

a man controlled aa that does too much damage which a player can set is too op

sentry is ok tho

[tame cobalt]

AA truck also needs a seperate slot tbh

[little lagoon]

They aren't op in V???

[tame cobalt]

Dedicated AA truck slot might help with aerial menace issue

[vocal adder]

Yeah wildcat and jets need there own slots tbh

[hazy crest]

anyone kno why my weapon badge kill number isnt advancing even tho im getting kills?

[vocal adder]

you playing in bots ?

[hazy crest]

perhaps

practicing my aim

which is ass

[vocal adder]

its only to a certain point mate

[hazy crest]

ah

aight

ty

[vocal adder]

think its mastery 12

[hazy crest]

once you reach 360 it stops

[tame cobalt]

Yeah, both of those changes should help ensure there are heli counters,

[vocal adder]

hope devs are taking notes 🤣

[mental delta]

Would you enjoy some amphibious landing map on this game or not ?

[tame cobalt]

What is the counter against jets?

Wildcat?

[little lagoon]

No naval maps until we can go underwater

[hazy crest]

bet

[tame cobalt]

Would be neat ye

[hidden sand]

You could beam planes from across the map, forcing the planes to reach the height ceiling and occasionally drop bombs.

[tame cobalt]

Maybe a paracel storm / tropical storm style map when they introduce rhib boats

[mental delta]

We will probably never be able to unfortunately, but a naval map with some boats and heavy amphibious transport vehicles would be cool

[tame cobalt]

Tropical storm is a neat conquest map

[hidden sand]

AA should control bubbles of the map, not the entire thing.

[mental delta]

Tbh I've just seen the Squad amphibious map trailer yesterday and it made me remember how good amphibious landings were in BF3 and BF4, and then in BFV

[little lagoon]

Mate, planes decimate in v

[little lagoon]

I'm still shocked you can't go underwater

[tame cobalt]

Basically make something like tropical storm but make the central building a close quarters type area.

[little lagoon]

I mean I know there's not much water in the game

But still

[vocal adder]

i'm still in shock there is no bombers in the game 😂

[hidden sand]

You shouldn't be able to beam them from across the map regardless? It forces a boring playstyle that consists of running away, getting closer, drop bomb, run away.

But also, planes only decimate if you can use them well.

[mental delta]

Me too, it was a good feature in BF4 and that would prevent you from getting killed while swimming, but considering there are so few swimming spots in BF2042 I almost understand why they did that

[vocal adder]

BFV had that also i think didn't it

can't remember

[little lagoon]

You act like the anti air weapons are consistently there. They get destroyed in seconds and then planes just fuck everything up. The aa was fine.

[tame cobalt]

Swimming underwater yes

[little lagoon]

You could go underwater in v

[hidden sand]

No, they don't actually, and can be repaired super easily.

[mental delta]

Paracel storm was so cool, the lightning and the storm just made the map and the atmosphere much different

[little lagoon]

Clearly you're playing a different game. The snow mountain alone is owned by planes

[hidden sand]

AA shouldnt have control of the whole map, that's basic balancing.

[little lagoon]

And they dont

We

I'm done talking to you about this. Planes own many maps in v

That's it

[mental delta]

It was planned to add one in each team I believe, I've seen some pics of it on Twitter

[hidden sand]

They do though... But clearly you're not going to acknowledge that so this a pointless convo.

[vocal adder]

you have you able to link ?

[mental delta]

You mean you want the link ?

[vocal adder]

yeah my keyboard is acting up haha

[little lagoon]

I'm sure bombers will be added

[vocal adder]

not surprised its a razor keyboard lmao

[mental delta]

Yeah sure

Give me 2 sec

https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1505529597030412292?t=CA0SgxSI-Ccz3FD2zP0-ow&s=09

https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1531251227933265921?t=mF5alA-WGjRxjmwPMLKN_Q&s=09

There were also some unreleased weapons but which seemed to be in games files at launch

[gloomy wyvern]

When you have ops that know what they are doing

[small ember]

Not with a kar main player on the battlefield lol

[delicate vale]

Does anyone have a link to the news where they talk about their commitment over the next 3 years and current dev plans?

They talked about it on the Battlefield Podcast but I can’t find where all this was mentioned or written

[brazen girder]

I wonder if they're ever going to add any new maps besides exposure hopefully just as good as exposure.?

[spark rapids]

Whens the new BF coming out?

2023 right? Thats what EA said

[arctic grove]

Probably 2023

BF2042 will have 4 seasons only

[hidden sand]

Tfw you run out of PS Plus and can't complete the weekly missions, thanks sony.

[solid imp]

Their last update on the general roadmap was here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Updates/Battlefield-Briefing-Development-Update-May-2022/m-p/11510768?cid=73726&ts=1656425091337&utm_campaign=bf2042_hd_ww_ic_socd_twt_kingstondevelopmentupdatemay2022&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#M54

[mossy badge]

i hope it overs quickly i want new battlefield already

[arctic grove]

wait, so they're going to stretch season one for whole summer?

[mossy badge]

awesome live service

[slim junco]

Live service games never fail

[mossy badge]

keeps it alive 😼

[honest comet]

i would like they add some single shot marksman rifle with a repeater

[slim junco]

For every 3-4 months

[honest comet]

nothin can beat that feeling of repeater being pulled and pushed

[mossy badge]

yep with just 1 map very effective

[slim junco]

Adding cherry into a shit doesn't make it taste better

[honest comet]

lol

game is good now, just needs more stuff

[slim junco]

We need more citrus

[mossy badge]

tbh i already need a new battlefield

[honest comet]

which u will shit about again lol

[slim junco]

Whole new fresh shit

Nice

[arctic grove]

Same here, and I want classes back too

[mossy badge]

if it will be trash of course

if it will be good i will praise it

[honest comet]

im sure no matter what lol

[mossy badge]

[honest comet]

but well see, next one probs in like 1-2 years

[mossy badge]

if the game launches in horrible state it deserves negative criticism but in constructive manner

[slim junco]

We gonna sit in this discord server and shit about it

[honest comet]

glad u have that happy life lol

[eager kiln]

what seems to be the best weapon at the moment?

[still vault]

False. That has never been publically stated. All we know is that the first year battlepass = 4 seasons. We don't know anything about what happens after that.

[ornate karma]

The new “dmr” is pretty good if u can hit ur shots

[arctic grove]

Oh ok

For all we know dice could copy the two year content cycle that COD is switching to, but that’s just a speculation

[honest comet]

k30, scar, as val

mp9 and ak 47 also worthy to mention

[still vault]

I think most of the assault rifles, smgs and snipers are pretty good.

[honest comet]

nothin beats k30 with drum mag lol

[still vault]

Depends on the range, but k30 is pretty good

[honest comet]

i mostly play now pbx tho

[still vault]

Still enjoy the sfar the most though

[arctic grove]

if it'll be like bf1 or the end-of-life-cycle state of bf4, people won't

[honest comet]

doubt it but well

ppl even talked crap about bf1

[arctic grove]

from what i remember people praised bf1, or at least it's atmosphere

[honest comet]

well not all

i loved the game tho, one of best bf games

[zealous patio]

lol ppl smashed bf1 and bf5 release

[still vault]

The older the franchise + amount of releases the more crap people talk. That is just nature of franchises.

[paper cliff]

Bf5 deserved it

[honest comet]

exactly

nah

[paper cliff]

Yeah

[zealous patio]

i can fix the whole mechanical gameplay in 1 patch contact me DICE

[paper cliff]

What do you guys give this game out of 10?

[empty vortex]

anyone know how 2 fix the bug where you reach the milestone 4 upgrades 4 a weapon but the upgrades stil stays locked?

[mossy badge]

6/10

[mossy badge]

2042 live service 1/10

[slim junco]

4/10

[empty vortex]

nvm i restarted the game and it fixed itself...

[arctic grove]

on steam bf1 reviews are "Very Positive", meanwhile bf5 reviews are "very positive", but "mixed" in recent reviews

metacritic furthermore shows 7.9 user score on bf1 and 2.0 user score on bf5

they're very far from getting the same amount of hate

then again im pretty sure thats due to the massive hacker problem

well mixed steam reviews probably are because of that indeed, but metacritic has a crapton of negative reviews from 2018 too

[zealous patio]

i was talking about release tho they hated both of those games at the release

[hidden sand]

BFV was pretty decent at release

Just lacked content

And the service was horrible

[mossy badge]

Coming soon

[arctic grove]

uh, nope lmao

BFV content was cancelled

[arctic grove]

it got hated a lot for the trailer though

vs hate is kinda dumb like i get it took a totally different route to ww2 than bf1 did to ww1 but sheesh

I don't like BFV mostly because of balance

[hidden sand]

The trailer sucked but the manbabies who got mad about women were ridiculous

[arctic grove]

it's fun sometimes, but often you're also just flooded with shotgun players/snipers/planes

[hidden sand]

Planes are so easy to take out tho

[arctic grove]

well that annoys me as a medic player

because ZK or a smoke grenade launcher can't really take them out

[hidden sand]

Then switch classes to deal with em, or hop on AA

[arctic grove]

ik, just a bit annoying to have to do that just to counter them because no one else sits on AA turrets

but anyway

[mental delta]

Quality of content : 3/10
Amount of content : 1/10

[paper cliff]

^true

I would say 4/10 for now

[mental delta]

I miss the amount of weapons we had in BF before, and the game doesn't even have a proper gunsmith like BFH

[paper cliff]

3.5/10 once I t1 the new gun

When dice has a successful formula they change it

[mental delta]

Yes that's sad

They don't learn from their mistakes and don't know how to keep the good features neither

[paper cliff]

The only reason I’m not playing bf3 the best battlefield is because it’s filled with hackers and old men who play it all day plus I would rather play new content

[arctic grove]

they don't need to learn as much as just read people's opinions

[honest comet]

will be more content in next season i think

then it was in first

[paper cliff]

Doesn’t matter it’s still garbage for making us wait this long for nothing

Mouse input a core feature of the game is bugged

[honest comet]

its what it is

[mental delta]

That's the best BF ever

[paper cliff]

Finally someone understands

[mental delta]

But yeah we are in 2022 we want a new game with new content

[honest comet]

thats why smart ppl buy games after some time lol

its about same with every title nowdays

[mental delta]

I mean true content like good weapons with a lot of variety

[paper cliff]

We will never get it

[honest comet]

atm theres around 25 guns i believe

[mental delta]

Yeah that's definitely the best one

[paper cliff]

That’s not good

[honest comet]

its decent

[paper cliff]

Thunder what do you play on

[honest comet]

ps5

[paper cliff]

That’s why you’re fine

[mental delta]

No and tbh the I play the game and the more problems I have with it, the 2042 setting isn't even attractive because it has no content and the lore is fucked up

[honest comet]

what do u play on?

[paper cliff]

MOUSE INPUT IS BUGGED I CANNOT AIM PROPERLY YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ANYONE ON PC AIM YET

I play pc

[mental delta]

That's even half precedent BF games had

[gloomy wyvern]

Welcome to GTA

[arctic grove]

just play bf4/bf1

[paper cliff]

Ew I’m not playing old games filled with hackers and boomers lmao bf1 also just caters to casuals

It’s an old game like move on from that

[arctic grove]

PC moment rip

[gloomy wyvern]

I've been saying controls on all platforms are bugged

[arctic grove]

ah yes, the new alternatives are so much better, the garbage bf2042

do you really think that playing something old is so bad if the new is worse

[gloomy wyvern]

Battle Tanx N64 will forever be my favorite -_-

[mental delta]

That's why we need a true good game, we can't go back to previous BF games but at the same time we don't even want to suffer by playing BF2042

[gloomy wyvern]

There is no suffering with BF2041

[arctic grove]

well you can go back to previous games, there isn't really a better option except coming to a new franchise altogether and forgetting battlefield

[mental delta]

Just hope the next BF will not be that kind of shit

[arctic grove]

we had two controversial battlefield games in a row

or, well, we have right now

[gloomy wyvern]

I have yet to hear how you have suffered from bf2043 @mental delta

[arctic grove]

bf5, bf2042, it got only worse

[mental delta]

I played South Park and it had more content and better gameplay than BF2042

[paper cliff]

Next battlefield prob gonna get worse

[mental delta]

I would literally pay to never see that type of shit

[arctic grove]

no next battlefield for you, EA will likely close dice if they don't get bf2042 to a popular and playable state

im noticing a lot of "probably" "likely" here

[mental delta]

I believe they talked about making specialists again, they didn't learn anything from our feedbacks

[gloomy wyvern]

I got PayPal, Venmo, cash app, an address for MoneyGram....

[arctic grove]

well that's because we can only theorize at this point

[paper cliff]

Next battlefield might be a battle ROYALE like this one was supposed to be lmao

[mental delta]

Well Dice will close then

[mental delta]

How much I must pay

[arctic grove]

battlefield as a franchise

is not going to end

contrary to fantasy

[gloomy wyvern]

$0 just disconnect from the interwebs, and stay away from gaming services / streaming content and presto you won't see it anymore

[mental delta]

But it can change in bad

[mental delta]

I can also harass them with feedbacks so they won't make it

[arctic grove]

whats happening now is a wake up call for management of the franchise

if they dont apply what theyve learned both with 2042 and the future project

i mean it still wont die but yea i guess

[mental delta]

They took a lot of bad decisions and what makes people angry is that they don't want to assume them

[arctic grove]

imo

[mental delta]

Specialists were a bad idea even if they are playable, too large maps are a bad idea and 25 weapons isn't decent

[arctic grove]

dice said they want to stick with 2042 and design it more like a traditional battlefield experience

so im just gonna be watching the game develop

[mental delta]

It's too late, most of people already hate the game and don't want to play it as the content is nonexistent

[arctic grove]

yeah well they arent any of the 10k+ people playing it so it doesnt really matter what they think

they will eventually get over their literally unattainable objectives

for the game

[honest comet]

no wonder u cry so much about bugs and stuff(p.s same with almost all games on pc lol)

at least ps5 games are usually very well optimized

oh and yeah i have good pc as well 🙂

[arctic grove]

there is still a decent audience for 2042 to work with, so i hate to break it but dice isnt abandoning battlefield or 2042

[honest comet]

plus dont mention those microwave screens lol

[arctic grove]

iirc mass effect ended though, another franchise from a studio that was under EA?

[mental delta]

No for sure, but I am afraid they are wasting time and resources with that game

[arctic grove]

even BFV has more audience than bf2042

lets be real tho grumm

battlefield

is on a whole nother level than mass effect

lol

[honest comet]

theres a lot ppl who actually enjoy the game

[arctic grove]

theres enough to actually put decent resources into it

i hate this whole "its too late" thing

its literally not

i like breaking it down to people though that dice isnt just going "byebye"

[honest comet]

yeah 🙂

i enjoy the game and it has lot of potential

[solid imp]

10k just on steam... out of the 14 people who play 2042 in my group only 2 or 3 of them have it on steam.

[honest comet]

yeah without consoles

[arctic grove]

like id honestly say you might be right crabmen if we were at pre 4.0 players on steam as of right now

but we arent

we're way beyond that

[honest comet]

and other sellers or platforms

and theres tons of consoles

[mental delta]

I know but not so much, and they even delayed or suspended projects for this game while they can do better games

[solid imp]

right we're all pc only and mostly origin

[honest comet]

u cant really say that since u cannot see real number

[arctic grove]

fair, although knowing EA we can expect different stuff, even now it seems that EA arent' giving dice more employees or money to get the content done but that's another topic

as far as gameplay goes, 1 map isnt enough (2 would be fine at this point), 4+ guns and at least another specialist is sustainable

as a model

each season

[honest comet]

u cant count other platforms only data from steam

which is unreliable a lot

[solid imp]

exactly.. that steam number is the lowest possible water mark

[mental delta]

Steam gives a player count and even if PS5 and XBOX players have represent 10k more well that's not so much

[uncut bay]

even assuming other platforms have the same numbers as steam (often have more) it's still 50-60k

[honest comet]

u mean 10k each lol

[arctic grove]

heres the thing tho we are speculating something we have absolutely no knowledge about

[honest comet]

its not same platform

[arctic grove]

there's a playstation data tracker but from what i know it's really inaccurate because how it works is just people can sign up for that thing so that the site will count hours played by them in a specific game and when they play it

and i noticed its being used to definitively say

dice will do this or that

[honest comet]

and its probs greater then 10k each

[arctic grove]

when theres a bunch of "probably this or that" flying around

[mental delta]

I get queued really often so I wouldn't bet on that

[honest comet]

my calculations say its around 50k ppl playin this game

i never get qued and i play crossplay off

[arctic grove]

what is easily proven and can be estimated is the games current playerbase across the board justifies sufficient resources being put into the game

[mental delta]

You play on PS5 ?

[honest comet]

yep

[mental delta]

In EU ?

[honest comet]

yep

[mental delta]

And never got queued

[honest comet]

almost never

get a game super fast

[mental delta]

It happens to me everytime I play, not every game hopefully but really often though

[arctic grove]

if we assume that each platform has equal amount of players (i doubt it so much but ok, let's just assume), bf2042 has around 44.5k players, but that's still not much

that is actually

[honest comet]

its pretty decent tho

[arctic grove]

more

than much

also, wait, is BFV available on PS5 and xbox x?

44k isnt just decent

[next onyx]

44.5K is not bad at all.

[arctic grove]

thats literally incredibly healthy lol

[next onyx]

Uh yeah Grumm.

[mental delta]

For an AAA game like this yes it's not a lot I guess

[honest comet]

it is available but as ps4 game

[mental delta]

Yes, but the PS4 version

[arctic grove]

well anyway in this case BFV has 84k players using same calculations lol

[honest comet]

well thats true

so what about that lol

[mental delta]

Lmao not far than the double

[arctic grove]

for 4 million sales peak steam playerbase was like 100k so it really makes you question where most of the playerbase is focused

[solid imp]

Isn't that more evidence that DICE won't abandon BF as a game?

[next onyx]

Bf5 kept healthy throughout its lifespan.

Only now is it starting to wane.

[solid imp]

This whole conversation, friends, is why anecdotal evidence is only that lol... there's an anecdote to prove every point so without concrete data one way or the other we're all just flailing around making guesses.

[honest comet]

yeah i stoped playin bf5 long ago

[mental delta]

On Apex lol

[arctic grove]

troll comments aside it isnt steam

so it isnt a valuable resource for your point

[mental delta]

They will not, just wondering of it's worse it to support this game for like 2 or 3 years more

[arctic grove]

well with how little info we have about insides of what happens in dice & EA at the moment that's all we can do lol, guess and assume

its just the most publically available and accessible

[mental delta]

I am not trying to make point ?

[edgy oriole]

I stopped playing bfv when they announced there wouldn't be any ore content. No reason for me to play if there is nothing new.

[next onyx]

I wish server browser for all out warfare is a thing cause then you could actually gauge the population of your own region.

[mental delta]

You guys just entered an argument yourself lmao I am not trying to argue or shit

[next onyx]

Portal doesn't tell shit since people barely use it.

People play the game for 2042, Not portal.

[mental delta]

You could also not get the same map for 3 games straight

[hidden sand]

Portal should have never been seperated from AoW.

[solid imp]

I would dump more time again into portal if the map editor hypothesis has any merit

[wise zodiac]

Except BFV is better.

[edgy oriole]

Portal is the future for sure if they play their cards right.

[hidden sand]

I play the game for Portal, and its been tossed to the curb because of that split.

[mental delta]

Dice didn't make Portal so it has nothing related to 2042

[arctic grove]

i thought you were trying to convey that its "too late" to funnel in any real effort to the game

by using steam stats

[next onyx]

Would you like to play hourglass, hourglass or our new map, hour glass?

[edgy oriole]

It was fun at the time, but now that I played 2042 I can't go back.

[mental delta]

It's not, as I said it I just wonder if it's worth it, doesn't mean I am convinced they will abandon the game

[wise zodiac]

I LOATHE not having persistent servers.

[solid imp]

I put loads of time into building things in portal when it first dropped but without persistent servers it's just so hard to make it work... if you combine portal + map editor + persistent servers that thing would blow up massively.

[hidden sand]

Portal could have been fucking great but leave it to DICE to fuck one of their best ideas up.

[next onyx]

if 2042 were more functional I'd actually play it more.

[mental delta]

Lol that's exactly that except I always get Discarded, which is the map I like the least

[arctic grove]

yeah, it mostly comes to how raw the game came out because of EA deadlines

[next onyx]

To their credit, They are doing something. But I want stuff that actually makes the game enjoyable and less annoying.

[arctic grove]

I believe, just maybe, if the game would've got 1.5-2 years more of development before showcasing the beta, we would get much better product

[wise zodiac]

If 2042 felt like BFV with more mechanics (like dragging/fortification systems) I'd play the hell out of it

[edgy oriole]

I've been getting manifest and exposure only. With a sprinkle of orbital

[wise zodiac]

I haven't touched 2042 since January.

[hidden sand]

2042 will never feel like BFV until they bring back the first person animation system it had.

[mental delta]

I am really waiting for Portal weapons but they don't want to give them to us for the moment lol

[arctic grove]

what will ultimately be true is the game should have never released in this state

[wise zodiac]

Mainly because of not having persistent servers.

[arctic grove]

nor should 60-120 dollar preorders been up

[arctic grove]

yeah, that's what i'm saying

[wise zodiac]

I want to play with my friends

[arctic grove]

if this wasnt actually a ready game

[mental delta]

You saved a lot of playing time which is a good move

[hidden sand]

Btw @next onyx, do you not like Portal?

[arctic grove]

more development time was needed but nope, instant beta showcase

[wise zodiac]

I'd rather play CoD because at least it has persistent lobbies.

And I hate CoD

I want to play with my friends. My team. I can't.

Because I can't keep everyone in the same game.

[mental delta]

Yes lobbies are less fucked up than BF2042 servers lol; that's saying something

I liked COD a lot but now it's just cosmetics show and MW isn't even playable because if their shitty launcher

[arctic grove]

but you said its too late? im confused here

[hidden sand]

Non-Persistent lobbies incline me to believe this game actually did start out BR centric.

[arctic grove]

compare that to BFV which literally kept the squad in the same game all the time, and generally just the people who were in the previous game

[solid imp]

It's coming

...introducing some of our Classic eral arsenal into the All-Out Warfare experiences. This isn’t a simple or fast change, it’ll take us some time to do. We need to ensure that these weapons are mapped properly to progression, that they’re appropriately balanced to the 2042 model of gunplay, and that they’re supported with appropriate mastery and cosmetics...

[hidden sand]

Or HZ centric, whatever they had planned.

[wise zodiac]

Because it did start out as a BR

[hidden sand]

Technically we can't say that's fact because it came from Tom.

[mental delta]

Too late to make it as popular as BF4 or BF1 for example, not too late to save it though

[arctic grove]

by a more traditional battlefield experience, that and a ui overhaul are what i wanna see

also 5s first person anim system like suika suggested

[wise zodiac]

It makes sense. Specialists. Non persistent lobbies... it's literally a hero shooter

[arctic grove]

elements of a 'traditional' battlefield (no specialists ,just class based system skins) are in the game which is weird that theyre there but we use specialists

[hidden sand]

Yeah I fully believe it. But if you try to say Tom is legitimate you get 100 people on you telling you he got a minute detail wrong in May of last year.

[mental delta]

YeahI know hopefully they are and that's why I said that, but do you think we'll get at least some of those weapons in season 1 or not ? I've already seen some redesigns for them and that looked like legit stuff

[solid imp]

I hope ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wise zodiac]

I don't care who said it, to be honest.

I judge it based off what I see in front of me.

I see a hero shooter.

[mental delta]

Hopefully we get some of them mid-season

[wise zodiac]

And I want a Battlefield game.

Not BR2042

[mental delta]

It looks like they wanted to make an Apex kind BF game and I hate Apex so...

[wise zodiac]

Nyphon probably gets a bunch of squares on his bingo board from me now.

[arctic grove]

oh ok i apologize, i figured you just meant in general, which i personally just think with how the game is now it can sustain a decent playerbase, but yea i see what you mean now

[solid imp]

Ok so how about this... is this best case scenario?

• 2042 gets its full announced lifecycle, 4 seasons, etc
• 2042 they keep testing a few more ideas like their revamped player animations and aiming models, map editor maybe, the whole portal concept is a fun theory even if underutilized
• Next BF is a BF3/4 remaster including the revamped animations, a persistent lobby portal with map editor

[hidden sand]

This game 100% took loads of inspiration from Apex. People say COD, which the takedowns definitely stem from, but it feels way more similar to Apex than anything else.

[arctic grove]

well

[wise zodiac]

Agreed

[arctic grove]

i'd be okay with a 'bf3' remaster if they just added a customization system like V had, the traditional battlefields before V (more specifically 1 and 4) had like 0 customization, but thats about all i want out of it

[wise zodiac]

If you give me a Battlefield map editor, I guarantee you I will test it out and see if it brings me back.

[arctic grove]

4 only let you change your camo which didnt change much and 1s models were what you got when they were designed

thats the only thing id change about the traditional class system

[arctic grove]

the best case scenario would be a game like bf3 with the improvements from games of the series that came after, but that's probably too much

[hidden sand]

BFV had the best visual and equipment customization in the series

[arctic grove]

I mean, as the new game after 2042 life-cycle

[hidden sand]

BF4 gave you loads of attachments, but specializations made them more interesting

[arctic grove]

and of course skins arent a priority but itd just be a bit more modern for the system

[mental delta]

You exactly described what 90% of the playerbase wants

[arctic grove]

pray to dice gods they listen and deliver ya know?

[hidden sand]

I want BF3 level design, with vehicle specializations and turret delay from BFV

[solid imp]

Even CoD had to save their own skin with a reboot in MW2019 and CoD fans are like crack addicts to that game. So a BF3 remaster could go a really long way with the BF crowd.

[mental delta]

That's what we all want

[arctic grove]

which is what i feel like 2042 is leading up to for battlefield

2042 has got to be a wake up call for management of this franchise

[arctic grove]

I would want less customization. Special characters which can be picked by a ton of people in same game and look absurdly, white-bearded men in winter coats running in a desert map, golden guns, flaming uniforms.. ugh.

[wise zodiac]

Give me a damn map editor/creator. I will make some bomb ass maps.

[hidden sand]

I want a level editor too.

[arctic grove]

oh no, personally i agree, what i'd like is realistic militaristic customization options

mostly talking about how it was in BFV and I honestly think they can't make it not like in BFV without people complaining like "oh, the skins are too similar and normal"

[hidden sand]

We haven't had one since the refractor era of BF.

[solid imp]

I finally realized who the new dramatic mackay reminds me of...

[arctic grove]

like for example, different kits so i could be MARSOC, rangers, stuff like that

[hidden sand]

It'd be nice to have again.

Holy shit I just realized who Mckay looks like in the right image LOL

[arctic grove]

i really hope they dont just give him a beard and shemagh but also a helmet instead of a cap

lol

[wise zodiac]

Shemaghs are DOPE.

[hidden sand]

He looks exactly like Jürgen Klopp LOL

[wise zodiac]

I love them.

[blissful thicket]

never gonna buy store content.. did allready paid too much for BFV content
i like the battlepass though, at least i have to play instead pay to unlock stuff like the good old days

[wise zodiac]

Shemaghs are the best thing ever.

Put them in an ice bath, wrap your neck. Pure heaven.

[arctic grove]

oh yeah i bet in iraq lol

[wise zodiac]

Did it all the time downrange. Fucking loved it lol

[mental delta]

A BF4 setting game, with BFv customization except you have to respect the ton of color of the map you are playing on so you won't see a guy with white winter uniform in the desert

[hidden sand]

I always wonder why people want BF4 again.

[wise zodiac]

But but but, white sands?

[wise zodiac]

BF4 was good towards the end of the cycle.

[tranquil turtle]

Would be cool to see people like you or the portal modders make crazy maps but I sense that the general public will just make maps for bot farming

[hidden sand]

BF4 has some of the worst level design in the series. A lot of them on par with how poor 2042s is.

[arctic grove]

4 with a modern customization system and modern gunplay and movement wouldnt be too bad in my opinion, which is basically what people want 2042 to be

[mental delta]

I mean desert camps for desert coloured sand and white camo for white desert lol

[arctic grove]

oh yeah map design too, understandably a problem

[wise zodiac]

I would legit make some amphibian landing maps.

[mental delta]

What are shemaghs ?

[wise zodiac]

YOU DONT KNOW?!?

[tranquil turtle]

I thought they'd downgrade the engine to the bf4 version because 4 is widely regarded as the best game, but damn I wasn't being serious

[mental delta]

No ?

[tranquil turtle]

Thing that goes around your neck I think

[mental delta]

You've just seen the squad trailer like me right ?

[arctic grove]

then again i rather someone jump around corners and what not than slide jump

but not really a problem, just makes players a bit harder to hit

[blissful thicket]

i didn't know either, had to google it 😄

[wise zodiac]

Shemagh

[tranquil turtle]

If we can place our own objectives and implement portal logic I'd make carrier assault

[low timber]

So a scarf

[wise zodiac]

Nah. I've always loved amphibian landing maps

[mental delta]

Ho he's that's dope, I would love to see more stuff like this in a modern BF

[arctic grove]

mackay is planned to have it but it doesnt exactly cover his face, just rests around his neck

but yea agree

[wise zodiac]

Except, it's designed to keep you cool. It gets the sun and dust off of your neck and face.

It's very breathable.

[mental delta]

Me too, I liked Oman Golf on BF4 but I would love to see it with 128 players and amphibious vehicles everywhere

[mental delta]

Really ? Where can I see it ?

[blissful thicket]

I hope naval battles are gonna be back someday

I did find this "Anyone worried that Battlefield 2042 would be lacking in naval action can rest their pretty little heads: despite ship-based combat not being present in the reveal trailer earlier this month, DICE has confirmed that the upcoming shooter will absolutely feature naval battles."

Is this bs or true?

[hidden sand]

I'm honestly kind of shocked they didn't use this opportunity to make the AI models available in the BP

[arctic grove]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-briefing-development-update-may-2022?utm_campaign=bf2042_hd_ww_ic_socd_twt_developmentupdatemayyoutube&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cid=73763&ts=1656430967079 just scroll to the part where it shows re design boris and mackay, hopefully its still a WiP cause i'd also suggest mackays default head gear become a helmet if theyre redesigning specialists

boris too and not just the headset

[mental delta]

Who said that

[blissful thicket]

DICE design director Daniel Berlin has stressed that naval combat will be returning in Battlefield 2042 as part of several new modes.

[wise zodiac]

I agree! Naval combat was fun as hell!

[arctic grove]

i dont like to speculate but any future map could be more amphibious or littoral based

[hidden sand]

I almost feel like I remember what you're talking about

Do you have a link by any chance?

[blissful thicket]

https://www.gamingbible.co.uk/news/games-battlefield-2042-will-include-naval-battles-dice-and-ea-confirm-20210622

[wise zodiac]

Less than a week ago?

Maybe that's part of season 2

[mental delta]

Thanks

[arctic grove]

about this i just read the ea dev article and re-read ' and will ensure that cosmetic options you’ll encounter in the future provide you with more grounded and more military-themed content.' which pretty much answers my prayer

[blissful thicket]

Very old info so i doubt this is still gonna happen

The way the release was received etc...

[hidden sand]

Ah yeah Daniel did say there would be naval combat.

[wise zodiac]

Oh shit that said 2021. I thought it said 2022. A year ago, yeah its old info.

[arctic grove]

np

[hidden sand]

Damn so that was a lie LOL

[wise zodiac]

I mean who knows. Might still be on the table

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[blissful thicket]

With all that happend? I doubt it

[hidden sand]

I mean that was pre-launch, so it was a lie in that regard. It could still show up, of course.

[arctic grove]

all that would really impact it coming to game is how the map is designed

[hidden sand]

I highly doubt it but you never know.

None of the base maps would support naval combat, so them making an entire section of gameplay for one map seems odd.

[willow sky]

it kinda feels like thats how it is rn with most of the cosmetics

[arctic grove]

well you can see some elements of that in season 1 cosmetics for sure

[willow sky]

mackay cowboy though

🤠

[arctic grove]

lol

the cowboy hat doesnt really bother me personally, just equal it out with tacticool stuff

[hidden sand]

Maybe Naval Combat was the aspect of gameplay that marketing person was told they can't do anymore, and need to redo the trailers and stuff.

[arctic grove]

i dont mind some meme skins for specialists

[mental delta]

This stuff is planned for season 1 or 2

[willow sky]

I would actually appreciate how it would look on the new reworked mackay features

[arctic grove]

yea the specialist stuff could more likely be slated for season 2 which starts with specialist look and feel updates

[fossil trench]

Cowboy Woody

[mental delta]

Some dataminings stuff had showed that there were boats planned for the game

[arctic grove]

yea rn we have 2 datamined rhib type boats

[wise zodiac]

I mean, did any of the base maps on BF4 have naval combat, or was that added via DLC?

[mental delta]

What's the specialists feel update ? Is that the specialist rework (not talking about animations) ?

[wise zodiac]

So, that leads me to speculate.

[hidden sand]

Naval Combat was a huge part of BF4s launch, since it was the return of it.

[mental delta]

BF4 base maps

[blissful thicket]

https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1429775433482964993/photo/1

[willow sky]

if there were season all about naval stuff, people would go nuts

[solid imp]

That attack boat in 4 was insanely OP

[hidden sand]

I wouldn't if it's just 1 attack boat the way BF4 did it.

[wise zodiac]

My favorite.

[hidden sand]

Give me a Cruiser, something interesting.

[arctic grove]

that's weird that bf2042 doesn't have boats because bf5 does even

although nvm, boats came only around pacific update in bf5, right?

i don't remember

[solid imp]

Rhibs in Portal nohshar but that's it

[willow sky]

that thing DEMOLISHED in so many maps and was super easy to avoid incoming rockets

[hidden sand]

Water in Canals looks awful for some reason lol. It looks like a 2D Texture.

[arctic grove]

specialist look and feel likely applies to their quips, models, cosmetic options, and the rework, yea

i feel like that long awaited community feedback for specialists has been delayed till right before season 2

[mental delta]

Yes and some maps could get it like Manifest to get into cargo boats by the side, or even discarded which would be cool of we could make an amphibious landing from the coast

[arctic grove]

i was thinking that an amphibious landing into kaleidoscope from the north would also work

[mental delta]

Like they're reworking the way specialists work ?

[arctic grove]

yea but we dont know a whole lot about how exactly theyre going to rework them

just speculations

[mental delta]

I wonder how it will be

[wise zodiac]

I think I might just say the hell with it and buy myself the next gen console soon.

[solid imp]

I don't believe they said for sure. In the season 1 briefing/update, all they said is that they are aware that specialists need to be changed but that they don't want to impact their other fixes or core gameplay, and that they will have a feedback loop.

[mental delta]

I think I heard they would rework them for sure but idk in which way

[hidden sand]

Really wish they'd just go back to classes but ah well.

[arctic grove]

the most i can say is temporyal did datamine a little bit about it, but you wont be able to do a whole lot with it

[mental delta]

The game will run better and you'll be able to play Cyberpunk2077

[mental delta]

He datamined specialists rework ?

[arctic grove]

some hints at what it could be but nothing major

[mental delta]

Really, on his Twitter account ?

Would like to see that

[arctic grove]

yea

https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1517473301181968384?cxt=HHwWgMC5ka77ko8qAAAA

[mental delta]

Thanks

[solid imp]

Data mining implies that the changes are already in the local files. They haven't even started the feedback loop yet so I'm not sure what could have actually made it into the local install yet. Beyond really basic stuff like their more dramatic looks and small cosmetic changes they've already announced.

[arctic grove]

true true

like i said, its not gonna do a whole lot, just gotta wait to see if every monthly update gives any new interesting stuff

[hidden sand]

I hope we can unlock stuff in the BP even after the season is over, if we paid for it.

Won't be able to play the game for a while because my PS Plus ran out, going to suck if I wasted my money on the seasons lol.

[mental delta]

I don't think so because ot would require to make missions for every single piece of BP content and lvl

Like a mission for Angel helmet

Another one for Rao's one

[hidden sand]

No it wouldn't, they could just let us progress through it normally.

[mental delta]

That would ask too much stuff to make

[hidden sand]

There's not a need for missions on each item, or missions at all lol.

[mental delta]

I've never seen any game doing that for the moment

[hidden sand]

That would be ridiculous... If I paid for the BP, it should still remain on my account to work on even post-season.

[solid imp]

The fact that they released badge for a season 1 somewhat implies that the opportunity to earn tier 1 will expire at a certain point and by extension also freezing the natural unlock progression. But I could see them allowing you to still unlock the season 1 content using those battle coins which presumably we can continue to earn during all seasons. Season 1 content might move into the store after season 1 is done.

[mental delta]

That never worked like this for any game which had a battlepass though

The things is, when the season is over, you can only get weapons and important stuff you couldn't get during the season

[hidden sand]

That makes sense on a free version of a BP.

[stable iris]

My cat is annoying rightn ow

He stepped on my keyboard

[hidden sand]

But if I've paid for it, the full thing, I absolutely should have access to it regardless.

[mental delta]

But on mostly games with BP or never implies you can get the cosmetics later and one the season is over

[solid imp]

Missed opportunity to say right meow lol

[stable iris]

Wrong chat

Sorry

[next onyx]

You alright Xeno?

[hidden sand]

Really wish someone at DICE would confirm this.

[next onyx]

Haha it'sw fine.

[mental delta]

I know but that's how seasons work, you have limited time to get it, after the season is over it's too late to get the stuff

[stable iris]

He keeps moving me

[mental delta]

I know it sucks

[small ember]

Only game that hasn’t was halo infinite and this won’t make them as much money

[next onyx]

Restrict c5 on Casper like they did on launchers for Lis and that's that issue fixed.

[small ember]

So the hit bf 2042 took because of the hate on it they will most likely make BP one time deal for each season

[hidden sand]

If this is how it works with 2042 than I'm done with the game. That would be absolutely ridiculous.

That is so scummy.