battlefield-2042

[tame cobalt]

[gloomy wyvern]

There would be tones of revives

[tame cobalt]

i guess so

What is angel's revive perk now?

[gloomy wyvern]

Full health, armor, ammo

[tame cobalt]

No

[gloomy wyvern]

Yes

[tame cobalt]

Half health

[gloomy wyvern]

Not w/ me, I drop health pack

[tame cobalt]

Falck gives full health

Not sure if angel revive gives armor

[solid imp]

I feel like this topic would have been squashed by mods long ago if it's under NDA... lots of questions from the survey are posted in there
https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/EA-Survey-Share-Your-Thoughts-on-Battlefield-2042/td-p/11486077

[tame cobalt]

It used to, but not sure if it still does

[fallen bloom]

Why ur so toxic for no reason bruh

[gloomy wyvern]

Last I checked it gives ammo & 5 armor

Which is a joke

[solid imp]

Armor saturation needed a nerf since Angel remains a popular specialist.. it was rare to shoot at someone who didn't have 20 armor

Now Irish gets some more play time because he spawns with it
(good because he's a perfect counter to Sundance, who is also quite popular)

[flat tusk]

How’s that being toxic. I’m just stating facts bruh

[low timber]

Only 10 tho, plus 5 from every ammo pouch a dead player drops.

[gloomy wyvern]

Where are you getting this "popular" idea, it's rare to see any sort of medic

[edgy oriole]

It's not rare to see a medic. It's rare to see a medic actively reviving

[solid imp]

lol was trying to think how to word that... nailed it 🙂

[low timber]

Earlier as a Dozer I revived squad mates 8 times in one round

[wise zodiac]

Interesting. Thanks for the read.

[gloomy wyvern]

The popular ones are Dozer, Sundance, Boris, Rio, & Paik...

I rarely come across a fellow Angel or Falck

[tame cobalt]

I do

[ashen wadi]

I see them a bunch, but as stated earlier it's a tossup if they use their revive.

[solid imp]

Rao is only somewhat popular now because they added the new spotting trait to him and added all the assist XP he was missing out on earlier. He was super rare before the 0.4 patch.
I feel like Mackay is missing from your list, that dude is all over the place.

[next onyx]

It's weird seeing angel being played despite his nerf.

Guess he's still useful at Something.

[potent hazel]

The BSV-M and crossbow have little ammo and run out really fast, playing angel just easily keeps you full on ammo

[solid imp]

Right which is why there are also lots of Falck as well just not doing actual medic work.. they have infinite self-healing like Angel has infinite ammo.

[potent hazel]

Exactly

[next onyx]

Yeah I just run ammo crate.

Easy grenades.

Easy multi kills.

[gloomy wyvern]

Angel needs his buff some back 😔

[potent hazel]

Agreed

[next onyx]

Maybe have his ammo packs refill gadget ammo on a cooldown.

Have his revives completely restock peoples ammo well... Stocks.

[potent hazel]

Do you guys think lis should get a nerf or buff?

[next onyx]

She's in an ok stance.

[gloomy wyvern]

No, there was no need in nearfing in the first place, if you needed to counter the get better, and aim for the head

[next onyx]

There was a need for a nerf.

Armour is too good.

[potent hazel]

Because like solo i feel like her ability is really useless but when your in a heli you get lis spammed

[next onyx]

Why run anything else when you have free 120 health and screw up benchmarks.

The way armour has been implemented is bad.

[solid imp]

Buff... 1000% buff please

[next onyx]

And it needs a change.

[solid imp]

She has a good gadget but as a "specialist"... she's pretty meh.

[gloomy wyvern]

Because no one else can run the same

[next onyx]

Yeah no.

Armour ruins the balance and there are more productive ways to make him good.

Like with what I've mentioned.

Have armour reduce environmental and explosive damage instead of gun damage so it doesn't screw with gunfights.

People know what's broken and it will be abused.

[solid imp]

I could see this being a good change

[hidden sand]

I'm starting to notice more and more people using armour and it's getting kind of frustrating honestly, completely messes with the consistency of gunfights.

[gloomy wyvern]

It doesn't screw with it, it's non regenerative

[next onyx]

It doesn't matter that you need just one more bullet, A single bullet more in a gunfight to kill you makes all manner of a difference.

[topaz field]

You're a clown if you have a problem then buy him a newer system 😫

[gloomy wyvern]

Like the headshots

[solid imp]

It's regenerative when there are a lot of Angels running around throwing it like it's candy lol

[next onyx]

Before the nerf, Angel could very easily regenerate his armour.

[topaz field]

Facts I hate Angel

[next onyx]

Irish can regen armour by scavenging ammo due to how veteran works.

You can regen an armour plate through an ammo box.

[gloomy wyvern]

Till he's the one picking you back up

[topaz field]

Irish less of a problem easy to kill lol

[topaz field]

I hardly get revive cuz I play Sundance alot of Angel are Sundance haters 🤣

[next onyx]

Still a pain sadly but yeah.

[solid imp]

Irish is the ultimate team player with that shoot down sentry... Irish on Exposure B/C/D flags man... we're seeing a spike in C5 usage because of Irish on those flags lol

[hidden sand]

C4 is so busted in this game

[topaz field]

Yeah I unlocked his 2nd legendary in about 1hr on exposure haha

[next onyx]

I just want tier 1 irish.

[topaz field]

No it's not....

[solid imp]

MKW looks slick in that red man..

[next onyx]

C4 wouldn't be that bad if it weren't for the throwing distance and or for the fact that the APS could block it too.

[topaz field]

Y'all cry about everything busted in the game 🤣😭

[next onyx]

Things are very over one side over the other.

[hidden sand]

I'm calling it busted from my experience using it lol

[topaz field]

Play normal conquest to avoid the C5 spam 🤣😭

[hidden sand]

Haven't been killed by C4 much actually

[next onyx]

That doesn't really change things.

[hidden sand]

There needs to be a delay between throws imo, the way BF1 did it

[potent hazel]

Guys, any tips on the battlepass week 2 mission “multikill preformed with any explosive”, ive really been struggling with it

[solid imp]

I think we're just seeing some really good rock/paper/scissors after 0.4 and 1.0... Irish gets played more, so people use more C5 and picking anyone at all other than Sundance now. Heli pilots have to actually be good now to dodge Lis rockets. Lis can throw regen rockets but it regens suuuper slowly and they do so little damage you need to have about 10 of her on the field to matter.

[fallen bloom]

Oki bro relax ok

[hidden sand]

Lis is more of a pain than people realize

On ground vehicles at least

[solid imp]

On ground I do agree... but that could be countered by giving the heavy armor APS or reactive armor type abilities and problem solved

and her rocket still has to hit 4-5 times to take one out so that tank is literally the only target Lis has to focus on for a long time and contribute nothing else to her team in the meantime

[topaz field]

Easy play sundance and chuck scatter or C5 or play heli

[hidden sand]

APS would need to be buffed from BF4s because of how bad the level design is. APS would be useless on any other map except BT Exposure.

[hidden sand]

The problem is the other 20+ things you have to deal with as a tank lol

Even if she did 5 damage on tanks, it all adds up

[next onyx]

It can get rather overwhelming.

[potent hazel]

Thats the thing, the lis rocket does such little damage but because of the ammount of them all grtting shot at once it adds up

[next onyx]

You get hit once there are going one to two other rockets headed for you.

[hidden sand]

Plus the no skill lock on grenades sundance has

[next onyx]

Those aren't too bad at least.

Since they're not smart grenades, They can be avoided by using cover.

And an easy thermal smoke.

The issue is that if you nerf Lis's rockets in terms of range, Air vehicles will have more power.

[hidden sand]

Problem with that though, Exposure BT is the only map with valuable cover for tanks.

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind some adjustment for if they Javelin their rocket.

[hidden sand]

You're going to be able to pop thermal smoke on other maps, but at that point you'll have another barrage of them coming in.

[next onyx]

They need to buff thermal smoke to make you invisible to the passive.

Have the smoke appear red instead of the vehicle.

If her optics work like some paint it would be cool to wipe it off.

[junior pike]

when update

[slim junco]

Soon

[knotty matrix]

is anyone else having matchmaking problems, im litterally in a game by myself

wtf is this

[silk surge]

Remember when there were Breakthrough objectives on the rooftops of scyscrapers? I wonder how that ever left the drawing table.

[next onyx]

Because the game was rushed.

They didn't test anything really.

[vocal adder]

i don't know why but since season 1 this game has become really addicting lmao

[echo yew]

this game is dead as fuck, 14 players online in all of SA, LMFAOOOOO

anyway 123 days remaining for Battlefield 2042

[vocal adder]

what do you mean 13 days remaining ?

[echo yew]

123 days until oct 28

[vocal adder]

yeah and what comes out then ?

[echo yew]

MWII, which i mean yeah cod and bf are 2 different games but i think it would be funny if this shit went down to only a few hundred players left, with EA and Dice still being obliged to provide 3 other seasons of content for it.

[knotty matrix]

are they going to do some more updates soon?

[echo yew]

there is an update in july apparently but don't get high hopes

[knotty matrix]

yeah

thats good

[arctic grove]

Has anyone noticed that the m5 damage got nerfed

[echo yew]

yeah it sucks ass now

it only hitmarks but never kills

it's like a 12 shot kill now

[arctic grove]

It take 5 bullet to kill a enemy to the body with a extended mag at mid range but when you put close combat on it takes 3 and 4 bullet to kill at mid range

I use shortbarrel for the 810 bps

The freaking pbx does a better job than the m5 at mid to close range?

[echo yew]

this game does not know what good gunplay or balance is and it sucks

[next onyx]

The m5 has always been a 5HK.

[vocal adder]

then leave no one is forcing you to stay here

[echo yew]

my preorder is.

[arctic grove]

Is up to lower back in the old update

[next onyx]

With standard, subsonic and high impact.

If you want higher damage use close combat which ups it to a 4HK min.

Give the SCAR a go.

[arctic grove]

But isn't shortbarrerl good to?

[echo yew]

SCAR melts

[arctic grove]

Aside from the velocity

I hope the weapons will get balanced next update

😩

[next onyx]

Short barrel is but I'll just give some TTK examples.

[vocal adder]

Problem is i use to shit on this game like crazy but update 4.1 and this one has really convinced me its going in the right direction

[arctic grove]

Before the s1 update the m5 was good at close to mid with shortbarrerl

If used right

[echo yew]

yeah but it should have been like this on november of 2021

[arctic grove]

But bsv get no nerfes?

[echo yew]

not fucking june 2022

[arctic grove]

If m5 gets a nerf they can do the same to bSV

[next onyx]

Within 30 metres with standard a stock m5 is a 5HK with a 320 MS TTK.
Within 30 metres with just a short barrel and standard is still a 5HK with a 270 MS TTK.
Within 20 metres with just close combat the m5 is a 4HK with a 225MS TTK.

[arctic grove]

So close combat is superior in everyday for m5 basically......

[next onyx]

Close combat short barrel within 20M has a 195 TTK.

It's a whatever.

[arctic grove]

Rip

[next onyx]

Give the SCAR a go.

300 MS TTK out till 50 metres.

[arctic grove]

I tried it....

I just don't like how it feels

[next onyx]

I've already got 10K with it and I'm loving it.

[arctic grove]

Valid

[next onyx]

The m5 has sorta always been the same but eh.

If you want to use something better just use the Vector anyways.

Faster RPM, Better mobility, etc.

[knotty matrix]

BRO WTF IM WAITING FOR A GAME AND THERES 2 OTHER EPOPLE THIS IS RIGGED

[mossy badge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/947472614522241094/988582615386824754/ghost_AdobeExpress_1.gif

[echo yew]

that campaign is gonna be goated, hope the MP is good specially ground war.

[mossy badge]

if it's like mw19 mp i will be really happy and then this rumoured eft like game mode i really want it to be good game mode

[echo yew]

DMZ could be something special

i really hope MWII is good, i really want a good modern shooter, it sucks that 2042 just couldn't scratch that itch.

[mossy badge]

i want this rumour to be true

[mossy badge]

i used to play siege

but now its sooooooooooooooo try hard

and gunplay of siege isn't for me

@echo yew there is one more rumour that the game will have map editor

[echo yew]

mfw call of duty forge

[mossy badge]

yep

they had map editor in black ops 3 but for zombies if i am correct

[wise zodiac]

What is this? How many players? 32v32?

[copper fulcrum]

Mod Tools =/= an actual map editor

In the terms of forge that is

[mossy badge]

thats a rainbow six siege type game mode xero but mwii will have better ground war your 32 vs 32

[copper fulcrum]

Black Ops 3 is like the only CoD that has Steam Workshop iirc

[knotty matrix]

LOW LOBBIES CAUSE IVE GOT Cross PLAY OFF!!

[copper fulcrum]

It's a good way to grind for XP

[wise zodiac]

So it's Siege?

[copper fulcrum]

Black Ops 3 is actually good for PC since the mod tools are actually good.

[mossy badge]

that image is talking about mwii game mode which is like siege
but game has ground war mode ( 32v32 ) and they are adding more vehicles this time

[wise zodiac]

I see

[mossy badge]

[gloomy wyvern]

Welcome to the club

[knotty matrix]

ITS CAUSE I GOT CROSS PLAY OFF

[gloomy wyvern]

You won't believe this... I get that with cross play on

Lol

[knotty matrix]

WHAT HOW MAN i get millions of players with crossplay on, id reinstall ur game

[gloomy wyvern]

Because I start @ around 12pm and end around 8am

[drowsy shuttle]

people don't play breakthrough... yesterday i was having a hard time to get a full BT server... so i changed to conquest and was full... i guess the majority of the player base plays conquest... shame cause i think BT is the best game mode... altough they should bring back 128 players... but i doubt they will.

[gloomy wyvern]

I think they left breakthrough because of me, tell em they can go back

[arctic grove]

even BF4 has a few thousands players online iirc, the game needs to be terrible to fall to hundreds, so i hope that updates will fix it

although, otherwise, this feels like a possible scenario

[arctic grove]

tip: never pre-order things lol, especially in modern world where trailers may show completely different game in comparison to the one released

[drowsy shuttle]

game is "too big" for the current player base... with AoW with conquest, portal game modes, solo/co-op and even hazard zone (yes there are still people that plays it) there are not enough players for everthing cause it was a flop.

[fiery shoal]

as far as egregious trailers that dont represent the final product, 2042 is far from the worst in that regards and is actually pretty accurate

[copper fulcrum]

Remember BFV's reveal trailer?

[drowsy shuttle]

but even in BF5 there was a problem to fill the servers... i remember Dice removing game modes like Frontlines and Domination

they bit more than they could chew

[fiery shoal]

it might just be that most people play conquest/bt and dont bother with other modes rather than a lack of overall players

[gloomy wyvern]

Like GTA v for example...

[fiery shoal]

i didnt know gta v had a misrepresentative trailer

[arctic grove]

I don't really remember but did GTA V have a false trailer? From what I remember it was mostly cuts from cutscenes or gameplay

cuts as not cut content, but just some chosen moments

[hidden sand]

Grind was a gamemode that should have stayed in BFV

Never could understand why they removed it completely

[gloomy wyvern]

It does, I have yet to see the game trailer include Try hard tactics, ewo, jet spam, godmode, orbital Cannon, mk2 oppressor, explosive snipers and more

[arctic grove]

oh, you meant GTA online

[gloomy wyvern]

Exactly

[arctic grove]

yeah, the online is uh, let's say, controversial, singleplayer was fine though

[drowsy shuttle]

yesterday around 7pm (sunday) in europe i started games in BT with half players and half bots (eventually the server got full but still)... i'd say the majority of the player base plays conquest...

[fiery shoal]

oh yea fully agree conquest is the main game mode for the bf franchise

[hidden sand]

The majority playing conquest has always been the case

[arctic grove]

yeah conquest seems to be like the base game mode, the most essential one

and iirc most of BFs present it first

[hidden sand]

Conquest is what made BF popular in the first place

[gloomy wyvern]

I used to only play conquest but since breakthrough - exposure I've been in love with it

[drowsy shuttle]

its a shame.. i never liked Conquest since BF5... its a constantly running around with people spawning behind you...

[ruby sandal]

BF2042 doesn't have a server browser and persistent servers. The matchmaking will never put you on a server that is over 50ms ping. This has been my experience with it. Some regions depopulate quickly at certain hours.

[arctic grove]

well if you get lucky and don't get randomly sniped or camped from a corner in those moments it's fun

[gloomy wyvern]

In war time you survive by keeping on your toes

[gloomy wyvern]

Ping is you and your system....

[drowsy shuttle]

in my opinion Frontlines was the sweet spot... best game mode ever... a central point first team capping will determine who would attack and defend... and eventually push the attackers back to their headquarters.. some games would take almost 1h...

[gloomy wyvern]

I've had 2ping before

[arctic grove]

not exactly, ping depends on how far you are IRL from the location on which dice server is located

[low timber]

For some reason the xp requirement for the pass point keep making big jumps for me, so far it’s gone from 9 750 to 10 500 to 11 500.

[arctic grove]

probably the game displayed it incorrectly or you were playing on a self-hosted server

or you were really nearby to dice servers

[gloomy wyvern]

Ping:
The amount of time it takes from one computer/ server to successfully connect & communicate with another.

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah dice made it really slow for people to spend money on tiers or keep them busy until september.... but i said fuck it... i will only do the weekly missions... if i don't finish before season 2... well fuck it... i don't really care about cosmetics anyway ... im level 66 or 67.

[arctic grove]

yeah, the "another" one also matters, and that amount of time often depends on internet connection speed and how far the another computer/server is

[gloomy wyvern]

So disconnect everything from you home network, and go wired boom ping drop

[ruby sandal]

No. It depends also on the location which Dice server is located. In the past, some players in Southeast Asia would have 2 options for servers. The Northeast Asia (Japan servers) and the Southeast Asia (Either HKG or SG servers) were those options. Right now you the matchmaking will never put you in a NEA server if you are from SEA.

[arctic grove]

still need to hope that there's an available server near you though, otherwise even having wired connection won't help if you're playing on a chinese server while being located in US as example

[gloomy wyvern]

@ruby sandal

[gloomy wyvern]

That should have been standard in the first place, you wouldn't have consumers having an "acceptable" experience if you didn't prioritize servers by the seekers location

[tame cobalt]

I don't get why battlefield always needs support studios, is it really so hard to expand DICE to be able to make and support its own games

[ruby sandal]

Doesn't matter. I'm already on wired. The matchmaking will never put you in any other server other than your relative region where you have the best ping. This type of matchmaking is actually great but it doesn't work properly in a 64 player or 128 player game unless your region is quite populated. Battlefield doesn't have millions of players like

Other games. We need those persistent servers and server browser.

[quiet shell]

Probably not a good thing when the most effective way to destroy the transport heli on B phase of exposure breakthrough is by having to specifically grab Mackay and C4, go ontop of the ridge and then wait for the helicopter to do it's strafing run to hopefully get ontop of it and C4 it

Cause for me that seems to be the most reliable way of killing that helicopter

[white geyser]

I spend time in solo and use the NTW-50, I only got the bronze trophy and do more kills.

[copper fulcrum]

Note that one player cannot take up two slots for Outstanding Performance

So someone might get the Most Kills outstanding performance but will be in second place for most kills

[cosmic island]

Exactly this is what I've always said!

I mean do DICE really need EA now at the end of the day! They surely can publish their own games.

[knotty matrix]

how do i type chat on ps5 anyone?

[velvet sand]

EA wholly owns DICE, DICE can't exactly go rogue and self-publish (or even greenlight their own game without EA approval).

I'm just wondering when the Portal guns are supposed to come to AOW since they announced that before S1 dropped.

[copper fulcrum]

It should be Pause then R2? It'll say on the top left when you pause I think

I haven't played it on my PS5 in a long while

[knotty matrix]

cheers

[mossy badge]

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[arctic grove]

That’s the point…

My point was if you have a shitty GPU do not expect it to run games with modern graphics.

Like if yo GT 1030 runs games with awful graphics who’s fault is it 💀

[small ember]

Simply some people can’t afford better stuff if that’s the case then like most of us have to wait until you can upgrade

I’m still on Xbox one lol

[uncut bay]

yeah, problem is a disappointing number of people complain about a game not running well, completely leaving out the fact that they're trying to play on a ps1

[split slate]

does the game work on imac

[tame cobalt]

yeah

[gloomy wyvern]

I would buy #battlefield-2042 for PC if controls weren't bugged -_-

So I'm currently stuck with Xbox 1 S

[keen loom]

[split slate]

what?

[arctic grove]

My kill feed is set to show all kills. The only kills displayed are kills my teammates get. I uninstalled, redownloaded, and installed the game. Now the game fails to start and I am receiving error code 30005.

[plucky pebble]

The kill feed never worked since release

[arctic grove]

Did they buff frags overnight or sum?

I literally can’t cook that shit now

Cook it for more than a second and boom you’re dead

I thought I threw it but no apparently it blew up on me

I’m gonna guess that the Sundance grenade nearby, detonated my grenade and killed me?

These developers are pretty pathetic. I will never buy another EA/DICE game and I will go out of my way to convince other to stay away.

[plucky pebble]

Hold on you cant say that in here

[arctic grove]

I’m confused why you said that, if it was about frags then that seems a bit extreme

[fiery shoal]

such an influence, im inspired

o sweet he left the server, at least a man of action

[plucky pebble]

Hahaha actual chad

[slim junco]

He will forever be engraved in our mind as a astonishing figure who's sole purpose is to bring justice to gaming

[tame cobalt]

Holy shit, exposure is a great map.

The scale and variety really shows what 128 player conquest can add to bf

[wise zodiac]

#inspired

[arctic grove]

bro is gonna go out of his way to convince people not to buy battlefield games cause he got fragged

[wise zodiac]

And he says he's a grunt..

[copper fulcrum]

Like the Halo Grunt, or?

[wise zodiac]

No, like irl military. 0311 is the MOS code for the USMC Infantry

[copper fulcrum]

But he's probably more like a Halo Grunt

[wise zodiac]

[radiant lynx]

Any update on the Aircrafts? Any changes being made? This has become a joke now. https://youtu.be/F_ZvIt27-W4

[copper fulcrum]

Note the amount of people not even trying to stop or even shoot at it

It's not a joke, people just weren't really caring to take them down

[wispy raptor]

Squad up?

[arctic grove]

Devs need to pull their heads out of their asses and balance their game starting with nerfing the BSV

Give the damn thing an inch of bullet drop for Christ’s sake

No gun should be more effective than a sniper rifle at long range

[copper fulcrum]

Honestly, I don't really use the BSVM that much, I'd rather use the SFAR, the AK or even the SVK

[arctic grove]

I double headshot someone from SPAWN to the FIRST OBJECTIVE on Exposure Breakthough

[copper fulcrum]

Headshot from Spawn to First Objective on Exposure Breakthrough really isn't a far shot

[arctic grove]

Do you guys be playin breakthrough?

[fiery shoal]

Imagine thinking balancing is a necessity in a casual sandbox shooter where you can randomly select a vehicle

[edgy oriole]

I only play bt

[copper fulcrum]

I play both

NTW-50 easily one shots pilots out of the Hind for Exposure Breakthrough lol

Especially with how still the pilots will fly lol

[white geyser]

Only in solo to do grinding, to unlock something I want

It took me how many bullets using the NTW-50, to take down the tank, also the tank was only like maybe 20% of health and use the rocket launcher too

[copper fulcrum]

tmw you shoot both the pilot and front gunner of the Hind out and it just crashes so you also get the Forced Crash

[tame cobalt]

Lol that vid is pretty funny

Bet we'll see some nerfs pretty soon after that

[obsidian elk]

It has only been 3 days but I just unsubbed from the BF2042 subreddit

because there is a front page post that is literally nothing other than "this game is shit"

that's it

that's the post

[tame cobalt]

lol that sub is cancer since even before the beta

[obsidian elk]

and people UPVOTED that garbage

to the front page

?????

[arctic grove]

FXAA can easily stop this

[tame cobalt]

when the beta hit it turned into mega cancer and never found a cure

[obsidian elk]

At this point people just want to hate things

It's such a fucking joke

[arctic grove]

add a rao or two and the hind wont even be able to shoot

[arctic grove]

reddit moment tbh

[white geyser]

NTW-50, it only takes 5% of damage to destroy armor vehicle like the tank I destroy

[solid imp]

some people just like watching the world burn, man

[obsidian elk]

Sometimes, something is so powerful that even its counters either:

aren't enough

or are too mandatory

In the Hind's case, it's actually both

[arctic grove]

but the 50mm just does not work if the hind is hacked

[obsidian elk]

(and condor's too)

[tame cobalt]

I'm glad the discord became more positive over time tho

[obsidian elk]

Yeah basically

[arctic grove]

on hind the 50mm is somewhat bearable because its not like the condour and can zip away at jet speeds instantly

[tame cobalt]

The discord probably reflects the general community's thoughts better than the cesspool subreddit

[arctic grove]

theyd be here if discord had a 'muh karma' feature

luckily however it does not

[tame cobalt]

The sub is like all the most negative people drawn into one place and praising each other for their negativity

[bronze steeple]

Bvs overpowered but it sucks in beginning you need 90kills to unlock shortend barrel an 120 for cc mags

[fiery shoal]

im glad ive never had a reddit account

[obsidian elk]

For real, that's how it feels

Halo sub feels the same way

It's just really odd

both Infinite and 2042 are good games

but for some reason reddit hyperfocuses on negativity and praises it

[copper fulcrum]

tmw the subreddit complains about BF1 and 2042 using the same type of hat

and it gets 1k upvotes

[wide shore]

High power extended>

[arctic grove]

well they did say they want the classic battlefield experience

[hidden sand]

Most people in the comments were pointing out the stupidity of the post, tbf

[copper fulcrum]

"Down to the bump!"

Because that's what a Slouch hat has

[sonic haven]

do you guys believe that bf2042 will be back

[wide shore]

It already kinda is, even with a lackluster first season in terms of content.

[arctic grove]

back as in like

[copper fulcrum]

back in black

[arctic grove]

large positive reputation?

[sonic haven]

back to glory

like bf4

or bf1

[copper fulcrum]

BF4 is a good game?

[sonic haven]

idk but a lot of people love it

[obsidian elk]

You want it to be an smg?

The BSM in SMG configuration actually takes a lot of shots to kill

K30 is better

[sonic haven]

i personally prefer bf1

[wide shore]

I knew the “like bf4” was coming. And it still hurts

[sonic haven]

as I had the chance to play it

[arctic grove]

i mean

[undone pivot]

bfbc2 > *

[copper fulcrum]

BF1 is a good game?

[obsidian elk]

It already is

[wide shore]

BF1 is a great game.

Better than good

[obsidian elk]

The latest patch put it in release level of quality in my opinion

[sonic haven]

I just see a lot of circlejerks about bf4 being the best ever

[arctic grove]

ehh

its super good

[obsidian elk]

So it can only get better from this point on

[arctic grove]

just clearly dated

but thats all i think of 4

[copper fulcrum]

Circlejerk is the best word to describe the Battlefield fanbase

[tame cobalt]

It's entirely possible, i have one theory for how they can do it, but they'll probably take another route. Hope they succeed with whatever method they attempt tho

[sonic haven]

reddit especially

[wide shore]

BF4 is mid. Even in it’s prime it was.

BF3 was, and still is, the better game.

[copper fulcrum]

BUT A SINGLE BUILDING HAS A SCRIPTED COLLAPSE IN EACH LEVEL

[wide shore]

Press two buttons and watch a mudslide ruin the mappppppp

[sonic haven]

i hope bf is back before mw2 release

[copper fulcrum]

You mean, one single objective

[hidden sand]

BF4 is okay on good maps, but unfortunately most of the maps are horrible

[wide shore]

It was a bad map anyway

[tame cobalt]

Too bad vaseline-smear suppression singlehandedly ruins your entire argument

[sonic haven]

I like the one where its flooded

[arctic grove]

all i play on 4 is locker and metro

and golmud for ufnny vehicle moments

[copper fulcrum]

The only good map I remember from BF4 is like Flood Zone

[rapid gulch]

The Hind is incredibly oppressive now. Change my mind.

[sonic haven]

there's like a city flooded and you fight on rooftops

[wide shore]

I’ll take the suppression. Cause it had timeless maps.

[hidden sand]

The color palette in BF4 is awful as well

[undone pivot]

zavod was good too

[arctic grove]

probably 100-300 hours of my 4 playtime is just locker and golmud

[sonic haven]

damn

is it still active

[arctic grove]

yes

[copper fulcrum]

Suppression in BF3 obscures your vision way too much

[arctic grove]

on some maps

[tame cobalt]

Flood zone

[hidden sand]

Golmud is one of my least favorite maps in the series

[copper fulcrum]

Same

[sonic haven]

hopefully the maps will be better on this game

[copper fulcrum]

I'll take Hourglass over Golmud

[bronze steeple]

Ofc

[wide shore]

Bazaar, Metro, Seine, Caspian, Strike at Karkand, Gulf of Oman(without a shitty sandstorm) the full aftermath DLC. BF3 was incredible.

[tame cobalt]

BF4 fans are split into 3 groups:

1. Golmud fans
2. Locker fans
3. Sane people

[arctic grove]

meanwhile in BF5 it can't even really be noticed

[hidden sand]

PS4 servers mostly being either 24/7 golmud, or 24/7 shanghai makes me want to cry

[copper fulcrum]

Because Suppression is only really used to spot in BFV

It does nothing else

[wide shore]

I honestly didn’t like a single BF4 dlc map. Except the BF3 maps.

[arctic grove]

i never got to play most of them anyways

[tame cobalt]

Premium pass moment

[arctic grove]

well considering that it only does it if you play as one class out of four, with only one specific class trait (or what was it called), it's weird

well i did eventually end up getting all dlcs for free before V came out

but a lot just werent too active

[wide shore]

It also pissed me off that the free maps they released after the DLC drops weren’t added to the vanilla rotation. So you could only play 24/7 those maps.

[bronze steeple]

How do you make it treu forst 90kills with bsv kinda sucks at begin

[tame cobalt]

[wide shore]

Bot games. Ez rank up

[hidden sand]

I wish the BF3 maps in BF4 were just straight ports rather than modified

[arctic grove]

yea on bot games you can just

mass farm bots for attachments still i think

[hidden sand]

Looking at you, Caspian Border

[arctic grove]

The BSV is op at all times

[lilac dust]

There's not a single BF4 DLC map that I didn't like. I would take any of them in portal

[arctic grove]

You must just be a bad shot if it’s bad before attachments are unlocked

good we need the bsv to counter the almighty K30

[hidden sand]

MP9 is better than the K30

[bronze steeple]

Hmm oke

[arctic grove]

I’m lucky. I die to K30s once or twice a game.

[wide shore]

I didn’t mind the modified metro. It looked fine. Caspian’s reimagining was okay. They barely did anything to firestorm, I didn’t really like that map to begin with. And the sandstorm ruined Gulf of Oman. Also all of these maps the destruction was heavily scaled back, for some reason.

[bronze steeple]

Both good

[arctic grove]

Real Chads use the PP-29

[tame cobalt]

I'm down for pearl market to come back

[arctic grove]

that's weird that this thing is still unchanged through, like, a week already I guess or more

[arctic grove]

Exactly how I’m feeling

if itll be changed id expect it to be in the monthly updates

Nerf that bullet drop

[white geyser]

Luckily in the portal, all the maps are there and AOW only has the exposure map and it sucks

[arctic grove]

Shit has an irrelevant amount of bullet drop

[hidden sand]

BF4 destruction in gen was downgraded from BF3, even BC2.

[tame cobalt]

wat

[bronze steeple]

I have same amount of kills with mp9 and k30 both around 4000

[arctic grove]

I’m so bad at this game

How are mfers dropping 40 kills

Like bitch i average 15-7

What are y’all doing that I’m doing wrong

[white geyser]

Oh yeah you don’t play portal

[arctic grove]

i go like mid 20s best

[bronze steeple]

Aim for the head prob

[hidden sand]

Picking the right gunfights and positioning is most important

[lilac dust]

In breakthrough sure, but it's the best map in the game for conquest

[bronze steeple]

I have average around 30 kills i think

[hidden sand]

Gotta be patient even if you wanna rush in

[arctic grove]

i don't play bf2042 but a general tip, if you're bad in staying alive for long, stick with the team so that you can get revived

[bronze steeple]

👆

[tame cobalt]

I do, exclusively

[arctic grove]

also just don't try rushing into a giant mass of enemies if there are two of them or more looking directly at you, you'll just get outDPSed if you go face-to-face

[wide shore]

In some ways, yes. In some ways, no. There was weird things about BF3’s destruction that always struck me as odd, especially coming off BC2. For example, you couldn’t collapse 2 story buildings in BF3. Which was weird.

That said, the destruction looked amazing. Probably still the best in the series in terms of visuals. As it would leave actual rubble for a long time. Which looked visually gorgeous. You could also destroy walls on “skyscraper” buildings like you can in BF1/BFV. Which you couldn’t do in 4.

However 4 did bring back multi-story collapsing, but lost the rubble effects. And the exploding walls looked, bad? The pieces flying off would always explode instead of crumbling. Which was rectified in BF1 thankfully.

But then BF1 and BFV removed the “collapse” animations. Which exist now on 2042 but only on portal maps which used to have it. Like Arica Harbor.

[white geyser]

This is why BF 2042 needs to be rework and bring back better destructions

[arctic grove]

maybe but who knows how long itd take

just for stuff to collapse nicer that you wont even be worried about when youre supposed to be shooting people

[wide shore]

2042 has great destruction. We just need maps with more destructible buildings on them. Right now, all maps on the game are at like research facilities or areas full of warehouses

We need a map in a residential area.

[arctic grove]

we need

e x o d u s f i l m m a p

i was thinking yesterday and i hope the map reworks arent just for more cover and stuff but also generally convey a more war-torn aesthetic as well

[hidden sand]

I think the destrtuction looks a little lackluster in 2042.

[wide shore]

Look wise it just looks like BF1 and BFV

It’s not “HD destruction” like BF3. But it’s fine

[sonic haven]

does the tornado happen on the maps

[wide shore]

At least they brought back better ground deformation

BFV’s above the ground decal drove me crazy

[sonic haven]

we need a map with a dam

[hidden sand]

The ground deformation is seriously lacking.

[sonic haven]

and the dam eventually explodes

which floods the map

making iit like flood zone

[hidden sand]

It essentially is the same as BFVs, because it doesn't go deep at all.

Some maps flat out don't have it, like Battle of the bulge.

[arctic grove]

I didn't even notice ground changing from explosions in BFV at all tbh

does it even do that?

[wide shore]

I mean it’s not as good as BF1’s ground deformation. But it’s not even close to being the same as BFV

[hidden sand]

BF1 is where ground deformation peaked.

[arctic grove]

Tip unfortunately doesn’t apply to 2042 unlike other battlefields

[wide shore]

BFV explosions would create a hill above the map, instead of digging into the ground

[arctic grove]

(Medics play medic to heal, not revive)

[crimson basin]

Its a downside of 128 players probably

[sacred depot]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1541514811078500353?t=GI9nBkPxtimRrJY9WIYSWg&s=19

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin)

ICYMI: According to a job listing by EA, Marcus Lehto's Seattle studio is looking for a Design Director to manage the design team & design vision of a "new #Battlefield single player campaign experience" while embracing "the core tenets" of the franchise https://t.co/iqKW84dpKQ.

Twitter · Jun 27, 2022, 8:12 PM

lol new game already

[fiery shoal]

thats industry standard

[wide shore]

I don’t think it is. I think it’s a problem with map design.

[arctic grove]

I’m so tired of 2042 man

[crimson basin]

I deleted 2042

[fiery shoal]

then dont play it

[arctic grove]

Maybe I’m just shitty at Battlefielf

[copper fulcrum]

Maybe you are

[arctic grove]

But I can at least enjoy 5 and 4

[sacred depot]

they did say they'll scrap further plans until the time comes

whatever

next game better be ww2

im sick of modern shooters

[arctic grove]

I’m gonna play conquest.

Do y’all be runnin squads in here cuz i need people to play 2042 with lol

imo we need at least 1 more modern battlefield

[arctic grove]

we already had WWII one game ago

its been like

8 years

[fiery shoal]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[sacred depot]

it didnt get to reach its full potential

dice scrapped it way too early

[white geyser]

No more world war games, just make a better modern battlefield game

[arctic grove]

I’m getting a pc soon and I’m very scared to play Battlefield in general on M&K

yeah but people will probably complain about WW II repeating again

[wide shore]

The only map in the game that has a residential area is Hourglass, and you can destroy all of the buildings in that area. It’s just that the maps don’t have too many buildings. They’re mostly flat

[arctic grove]

y’all be gamin on xbox right

it would be better to do some BFV remaster or something i guess?

just a more traditional modern battlefield game is all i ask for

[fiery shoal]

adding "factions" (skins), wouldnt have made it "reach its full potential"

[hidden sand]

The buildings are also so uninteresting lol

[arctic grove]

So probably gonna play a Battlefield I don’t care for and move onto one I do when I’m ready for the sole reason of having a presentable k.d

[sonic haven]

any reasons why they chose not to name the guns in bf2042 as their real life counterparts

[arctic grove]

Like that of my like 2 kd on BF5

[crimson basin]

I was talking about ground deformation

[sacred depot]

?

[white geyser]

Or better yet, reboot battlefield 2142 and add new vehicles, new maps, and more we never seen before

[sacred depot]

im talking about bf5

[arctic grove]

so that dice can build over an already not too bad foundation instead of making a completely new game

[sacred depot]

and content wise

[arctic grove]

it has to do with licensing

[arctic grove]

So…Update the game?

[fiery shoal]

yes and thats the complaint about bfv is that it didnt have all the factions for ww2

[sacred depot]

ohh

[arctic grove]

Unfortunately they did that and didn’t make this a proper battlefield experience

[sacred depot]

no i mean content

idc about factions

[wide shore]

When have BF’s destructible buildings ever really been interesting? They’re the same 5-6 assets pasted everywhere. Lol

[fiery shoal]

pretty sure bfv ended with like 5 less maps than bf1 did

[arctic grove]

That’s a dumbass complaint…

[sacred depot]

the lesser known eastern front maps would be so good

[arctic grove]

Like damn doesn’t change the gameplay at all.

[sacred depot]

alongside the popular guns and less popular ones

[sonic haven]

its a good complaint

[hidden sand]

? Its literally white textured buildings. The ones in BFV and BF1 were really good at visually differing from each other.

[wide shore]

I see. Even still, 2042 has the second best ground deformation behind BF1.

[white geyser]

Also it’s too soon to make another battlefield game, they have a lot fixing to do for 2042

[sonic haven]

ww2 without russians don't make any sense

[fiery shoal]

history nerds wanting bfv to be some sort of history book/game though

[sonic haven]

no italians as well

we want mafias

[arctic grove]

ngl BFV maps had a lot of copy-pasted stuff

[sonic haven]

and bratva

fighting

[hidden sand]

I never said there wasnt copy pasted stuff though.

[white geyser]

https://youtu.be/ZFMGIrXcqjY

[wide shore]

I mean, they replicate the buildings in the area just fine. You could say the same thing about Suez.

[arctic grove]

the best example is Rotterdam which had literally copy-pasted corners with two windows and two doors corridor everywhere

[arctic grove]

Didn’t they whine about some woman having a prosthetic in the game?

[tame cobalt]

So they don't have to pay licencing fees

[sonic haven]

history nerds are the worst 🤢

[fiery shoal]

there were a ton of stupid complaints, gamers are stupid

[arctic grove]

I’m sure there are hundreds of mistakes like that in BF1 but Battlefield players dickride that game so hard.

[crimson basin]

When would the next game be out though? 2023?

[hidden sand]

There's actual decoration inside of those buildings though. Y'know, detail to make it interesting.

[sacred depot]

money

of which they mostly do not have

[fiery shoal]

ea has a shit load of money...

[arctic grove]

Homie go read a history book if you care about that shit

[wide shore]

The ones on Suez? Not that I recall. Other than like a dresser or some pillows. Maybe a carpet

[arctic grove]

Do you even know what battlefield is homie 💀

[arctic grove]

bionic arms iirc

[crimson basin]

Doha residents apparently only have metal ladders in their homes

[sonic haven]

bf community is pretty stupid just before bf2042 bfv was the worst bf ever now they make it seem like its the best

[sacred depot]

yeah but how much would they be willing to dedicate to 2042?

[arctic grove]

BFV is based

[sonic haven]

despite nothing changing

[fiery shoal]

the prosthetic is actually extremely accurate...

[sonic haven]

it was good before

[wide shore]

The Europe maps had some. I’ll give you that. BFV interiors had a lot more inside them.

[hidden sand]

There were ovens, rugs, baskets and stuff.

[sonic haven]

people just liked to hate on bfv

[arctic grove]

unless its a pr stunt the video breaker just posted is

[sacred depot]

especially since they'd know the game would be rough for them

[arctic grove]

probably a lot of money

[fiery shoal]

fuck if i know, no one knows, but they got money

[white geyser]

Proper comeback should be nice for BF 2042, add new contents and more fixing, and not this shitty roadmaps

[arctic grove]

but thats about all anyone can say is

My prediction is people will like 2042 after the next release

'probably this or that'

Wanna know why?

[sonic haven]

Hate books 🤮

[sacred depot]

gun names dont really matter anyways

[arctic grove]

Because the franchise gets worse and worse

[wide shore]

They will

[hidden sand]

Things to make them a little more visually interesting than ladders and buckets lol.

[arctic grove]

Making older games that sucked ass look better

[sacred depot]

however, gun licensing wont matter in a futuristic bf game

[arctic grove]

that generally happens with a lot of communities that take a look back at what they called shit and after seeing even worse shit, thye think that the previous one wasn't so bad at least in comparison

[sacred depot]

which is probably what we'll get

[crimson basin]

Bf3 closer quarters dlc had awesome interiors

[arctic grove]

because its near-future you can just get away with the sig spear getting adopted as the m5a3

[sacred depot]

if it isnt futuristic idk what else it could be

[arctic grove]

which makes sense

[sonic haven]

bfv wasn't even that bad tbh

it was pretty good

[sonic haven]

people didn't give it a chance during its time

[wide shore]

I just think we need a map in a suburban neighborhood. Kinda like that one area on Bandar Desert. That’s where 2042’s destruction would shine.

[sonic haven]

not real

[arctic grove]

How would you know?

Especially if…

You hate books so much?

[sonic haven]

check the source

[arctic grove]

it is real

i had it

[wide shore]

Can confirm I was there

[sonic haven]

read it sadly 😔

[white geyser]

2042 better pull out a comeback like SWBF2, except without loot box situation and without pulling the plug

[arctic grove]

lol of course not

why would they do loot boxes

[bronze steeple]

How to play vs bots? I want to rank bsv to 120kills i cant do anything with this gun now in Close combat

[sonic haven]

play

vs real people bozo

[arctic grove]

Switch to solo

[wise zodiac]

They should give me some.

[tame cobalt]

"without pulling the plug" you're not gonna like how things are gonna turn out...

[arctic grove]

now what would be cool is if

[sonic haven]

do u work for ea?

[arctic grove]

Who do you think you are bro 💀

2042 got 2 years of support

[wise zodiac]

Nope. They should just give me some anyways.

[sonic haven]

bozo as well

[sonic haven]

thought u were minimum wage at ea

[arctic grove]

hopefully battlefield also adapts to the 2 year support cycle that i heard CoD is getting

[bronze steeple]

This gun sucks hard at start i play with other weapons i want to make it smg with cc mags and shorten barrel

[arctic grove]

it's about if they're going to give it to DICE tho or close them instead like some other studios

[fiery shoal]

link doesnt work

[hidden sand]

One of my biggest let peeves when it comes to destruction in this game though is the explosion VFX. It's very clearly the same effect each time, and it also just looks kinda bad.

[wise zodiac]

Mods aren't EA employees.

[sonic haven]

oh ur a mod

[arctic grove]

Aight now you are

[hidden sand]

Specifically the effect on tank cannons, tow missiles, etc.

[sonic haven]

i thought that thing you had next to ur name means ur an ea employee

[wise zodiac]

The big blue shield didn't give it away.

[bronze steeple]

Oke thanks for the tip never did this haha

[tame cobalt]

They will 100000% pull the plug the exact moment the game has made a "comeback"

[fiery shoal]

100%, but thats not the same as "money they mostly do not have"

[wise zodiac]

EA is like a weird green

[arctic grove]

Average Naruto fan

[sonic haven]

my man ur name is cornelius 💀

[arctic grove]

Good baller at Trabzonspor

[bronze steeple]

I need to make it treu first 120kills with bsv

[sonic haven]

🌽

[arctic grove]

You definitely aren’t the smartest person if

[wise zodiac]

Cause he corny or cause he from 300BC?

[sonic haven]

galatasaray better

[arctic grove]

“Connor Cornelius the fifth” seems like a serious name?

ngl i want a 300 bc name

well

maybe not cornelius

[sonic haven]

idk

[arctic grove]

Hollow head looking ass 💀

[tame cobalt]

explosion vfx looked insane in the leaked alpha footage

[arctic grove]

that didnt make sense connor

[arctic grove]

Wait till you see Fenerbahçe

[sonic haven]

finished club

[arctic grove]

oh wait

[arctic grove]

Think about it

by hollow you were inferring ammo doesnt have a brain

ahh i see

Use your brain, which you do have

[sonic haven]

im just trolling bro dont take me seriously

[arctic grove]

Unlike Ammo over here

[arctic grove]

Trolling is fortunately enough limited to stupid people

[wise zodiac]

General Maximus Decimus Meridius.

[arctic grove]

Trolling or not, you lack a brain

give me decimus or meridius

👍

[arctic grove]

Fatih terim fc i see here

[sonic haven]

bro is mad lmaooo

[arctic grove]

I still wonder why did dice to put that into the trailer twice though, it seemed to have caused probably the most outrage from the community

[arctic grove]

Seems like 3 different people

[wise zodiac]

My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the TRUE emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife.

[sonic haven]

thats from

gladiator

[arctic grove]

and I doubt that women with prosthetic arms on WWII were an often thing but that's another topic and we can assume that it just so happened that one appeared twice in a row

Battlefield 2042’s trailer overhyped it so much

[arctic grove]

Im datdarth nice to meet you

[sonic haven]

not turkish lol

[fiery shoal]

commander of bfd server and server to ea/dice

[tame cobalt]

They didn't expect the community to have such a low iq reaction after loving the historical inaccuracy of bf1

[fiery shoal]

and i will have my vengeance, in this life or the next

[arctic grove]

I hate how much people dickride BF1!

God!

[white geyser]

🧰🛠

[sonic haven]

It's a great game!

you're so cynical conor

[arctic grove]

People overhate or overlove bf games

[sonic haven]

god!

[arctic grove]

In a different timeline this happens.

At least some

[fiery shoal]

people who like bf1 favor atmosphere over gameplay

[wide shore]

I mean, it was a battlefield trailer. They’ve been amazing for, forever. I think the community are the ones who overhyped it as well

[fiery shoal]

aka youre priorities are wrong

[tame cobalt]

I don't bf1 is great, but it's funny when see exactly which "historical inaccuracies" people take issue with.

[sonic haven]

gameplay is good?

[arctic grove]

Woah, did the rat that we taught basic math learn how to mirror people?

[fiery shoal]

riiiiight....

[arctic grove]

Oooooo!

[wide shore]

Damn straight

[sonic haven]

conor stop being mad you filthy animal

[arctic grove]

Guys this must be a really smart rat, unfortunately it would make a really stupid human.

[fiery shoal]

theres a reason bfv dropped almost everything bf1 did gameplay/mechanic wise

[sonic haven]

cry more 😢

[arctic grove]

I hope that you’re spelling of Connor is completely satirical.

[tame cobalt]

bf1 had more than just atmosphere

[arctic grove]

That or you’re just…That stupid yet continue to be a smartass.

[sonic haven]

why is this man attacking me 💀

[arctic grove]

I was about to disagree

[wide shore]

Only thing BFV really dropped mechanic wise was suppression and RBD. It added on to its movement system.

[arctic grove]

Wonder why, almost like you were being rude?

[sonic haven]

what was different about the gameplay

[hidden sand]

BFV 100% has better gameplay than BF1. Just wish it had the same level of art direction BF1 did.

[fiery shoal]

gas nades, nade spam, behemoths, elites, sweet spots

[sonic haven]

how did you figure looooooooooool

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 5 movement is what they should’ve done for 2042 won’t lie.

Would’ve wildly improved the pace of the game and made 128 far better than it is.

[sonic haven]

you just mad bruh take a break off discord if you got mad

[arctic grove]

Not to mention, crouch running was fire.

[sonic haven]

im just here talkign about bf

[fiery shoal]

sure did, still doesnt change that bf1 favors atmosphere over gameplay, especially when compared to other bf titles

[arctic grove]

Actually the suppression was too harsh to be put on bfv

[arctic grove]

Average Naruto fan’s excessive use of bruh

[sonic haven]

bruh

cry about it bruh

what a tool

[arctic grove]

I’m not.

[fiery shoal]

you two are cringe...

[sonic haven]

literally!

[wide shore]

I wouldn’t really say gas nades are an inherit flaw. They fit perfectly in BF1. Nade spam has almost always been a problem. It’s literally a problem in 2042 right now. Behemoths, sure. Elites, sure. Forgot about sweet spots tbh.

[arctic grove]

All the nade slots.

Total chaos.

Grenade spam was always an issue

[fiery shoal]

well it sucks gas nades came with a stupid forced mask/animation

[arctic grove]

Wait till you see 1942

[sonic haven]

@fiery shoal what's about bf1 gameplay that sucked

[arctic grove]

the trailer's description describes BFV as "a never-before-seen portrayal of World War 2" and "the most immersive Battlefield yet." so uhhh idk, they didn't tell in exact straightforward words that "it's historically accurate" but still seems weird

[hidden sand]

Grenade spam was only an issue on CQC maps in BF1. But that's always the case.

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 2042 surely doesn’t improve upon nade spam…

I hate scatter.

[wide shore]

I kinda disagree. They can’t do a WWI game without gas masks.

[fiery shoal]

spread based gunplay, sluggish movement, on top of all the absolutely stupid gameplay mechanics

[arctic grove]

Other than scatter its good tho

altho it doesn't really matter now because BFV's main problem at this point is probably mostly the gameplay, historical accurateness doesn't seem to be the goal right now for sure

[fiery shoal]

idc about the setting, as a gameplay mechanic its annoying at the very least

[bronze steeple]

Ow yea go fk yourself nerd

[arctic grove]

It’s like 7 different tiny grenades, and Sundance is the most popular specialist so god forbid you play breakthrough and there’s a tight space where the enemy team can choke hold you via a shit town of nades.

[sonic haven]

good morning

[wide shore]

I very much disagree with BF1 being sluggish. It feels great running around. And the addition of being able to climb tall walls has literally ruined other FPS games for me that don’t have that feature.

[hidden sand]

The gas grenades are better than the scatter grenades thats for sure lol

[wide shore]

Yes. 100%

[bronze steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-fuck-you-middle-finger-middle-finger-gif-15294280

[arctic grove]

Thats why i go for 128 conquest, but that doesnt mean they must improve breakthrough

[fiery shoal]

off axis movement in bf1 feel much slower than anything else though

[arctic grove]

I only okay breakthrough because of better xp and more action.

[serene grove]

Is battlepass premium bundle different to the battlepass on Steam

[arctic grove]

Thats acceptable

[wide shore]

Best way to improve breakthrough is bringing back 128 BT

[arctic grove]

I spend half my time in conquest getting shot in the back whilst dead sprinting through the 30 million completely open acres of land.

[sonic haven]

learn how to play well then

you can't hide?

[wide shore]

Coming off BF4 it felt amazing to me.

[arctic grove]

Thats no problem for me im used to it, always been a conquest man

[arctic grove]

Did I lack emphasis on open spaces orrrr?

[sonic haven]

can't read

[arctic grove]

It feels like less of a problem in other installments.

[bronze steeple]

👆 miss that too

[arctic grove]

a lot of people played about way too open maps in bf2042, but from what i've heard "Exposure" map is better

[fiery shoal]

relatively better doesnt make it amazing in general though. bfv movement was way better and i would call that amazing

[hidden sand]

BF4 movement is slow and clunky disguised as "nuanced" by players abusing exploits never intended to be there.

[bronze steeple]

You prob suck harder smart ass

[sonic haven]

1v1 ?

[arctic grove]

the moment when embed perms on the server require writing 10k or something messages

[wide shore]

The problem with 128cq (and it’s whatever cause I still play it as a main mode) is that zerging is more evident. You run into bigger groups of players more often. Which is why it feels like you die more.

[bronze steeple]

What?

[arctic grove]

I like very few maps…And those I do-

Only because of select spots on said map

[bronze steeple]

Tuff guy you prob suck

[arctic grove]

High fov feels better for this

What’s the one map in Africa that cleans the water?

[foggy halo]

I saw someone getting after 5400 a long time ago. They probably increased the count after bf2042 release.

[arctic grove]

Shit I don’t remember, but only the green, grassy area is playable, I despise the rest.

[wide shore]

I also hate showing up on the minimap when you fire. BFV & BF1 felt so fucking good not staring at the minimap 24/7 looking for players. I was hoping we’d leave that crappy feature in BF4

[arctic grove]

it seems that embed perms (basically permissions to post pictures, gifs, files and videos in the chat directly) are bound to "Regular" role which is given around 10k messages from what I know

[wide shore]

Renewal

[arctic grove]

Thank you.

[bronze steeple]

Ah oke i didnt understand but 10k messages

[hidden sand]

I honestly feel like they didn't look at past games at all and completely started from scratch. How minimap spotting is back is beyond me lol.

[wide shore]

BFV was way better. I ain’t denying that. But the jump from BF4 to BF1 also felt way better.

[arctic grove]

That and the big building on Discarded with I think a submarine?

Don’t know, never looked at it enough.

[hidden sand]

You wanna flank? Sorry bro the entire enemy team now knows where you are.

[arctic grove]

It is a ship

Not a sub

[arctic grove]

The thing inside of it.

Not what it is.

Yea its a sub

[last swift]

it´s a sub in a ship

[arctic grove]

There’s some black cylinder.

I figured it was a sub.

[wide shore]

It doesn’t help that some suppressors work at all ranges, and some don’t. And that entirely depends on the gun.

[arctic grove]

Pfft instead of falling signs I vote that they let us destroy the U-Boat on 2042.

The signs are a terrible destruction event.

Let us knock down radio towers to eliminate pesky snipers.

But all we get are some SIGNS?!

I don’t know if I’m gonna play Battlefield in general once I switch to PC.

[arctic grove]

actually i've just checked a bunch of people with regular role and on which point in time the bot announced them getting regular role, and one guy had only 5k messages at the moment while the other one had 53k

I have zero experience in FPS on PC.

the way how it counts is weird

Hell, only FPS game I’ve ever played on computer was Valorant and that was for like..20 minutes

[arctic grove]

FPS on PC feel better because of mouse aiming being more comfortable

[arctic grove]

I’m sure it is more comfortable but I’m more worried about the fact I don’t know how to aim on PC.

Hell I already struggle enough here!

and in general being able to quickly look around instead of being locked at controller's all-time speed being the same

That’s a joke, I can aim.

Not incredibly well with snipers and marksman weapons but well enough.

oh and also, recoil on PC in BFV is around 33% bigger in comparison to using a controller iirc

Actually I’m good with snipers

Need work on hitting headshots on moving targets, but I can hit them twice

But is that as good as an instant headshot? No.

[echo yew]

so uh, launch day spread is back

[hexed mango]

anything noticeable after the server update

[bronze steeple]

What update

[hexed mango]

#direct-communication

[bronze steeple]

I dont notice any difference

[soft swallow]

Since BF2042 outperformed Warzone on Twitch I think they just wanted to make the servers perform better

[hexed mango]

yeah i mean from what i was told, it was to do a few things:

1. improve connectivity to servers
2. improve matchmaking quality

[uncut bay]

yeah it was just maintenance

people reporting any gameplay changes are prob just bad or tripping

[bronze steeple]

[hallow sierra]

i feel like this game hates me for trying to make flank

[wide shore]

Because the moment you shoot the whole entire enemy team knows where you are

[hallow sierra]

wish the team didnt know

[arctic grove]

128 players game moment

[forest snow]

How has the condor and hind not been nerfed yet just at this point its just ruining the game

[fiery shoal]

is it good solo or does it need multiple people to be good?

[arctic grove]

It needs multiple people

[fiery shoal]

if a vehicle needs multiple people to be good i think thats fair, if its abusive solo thats a problem

[arctic grove]

Although it’s 40 and 50mm grenade launcher and cannon are really strong and the vehicle itself can take a beating you can’t really do much with it by yourself

[forest snow]

mean if you are gunning in that thing with with a rep guy its basic 100 kills easy its that broken, worse then the ac130 when armoured kill came out

[arctic grove]

dice seem to not be very active with pushing any quick updates in general

they didn't change BSV as well which from what i've heard is probably the most broken gun

They literally update every month

[forest snow]

only way to stop them im finding is spawn camping there spawn with a jet shooting it soon as it spawns

[fiery shoal]

so thats 3 people to make it broken?

[hidden sand]

It needs 2 people. A driver, and a gunner.

[arctic grove]

damn, if a mechanic requires camping to counteract it or dominate through it, it instantly seems like a terrible game design

[hidden sand]

It's mainly broken against vehicles.

[forest snow]

2 is enough but plus reps its cancer

[arctic grove]

And there isn’t really a “quick update” needed for the BSV because it’s not exactly “broken”. The transports I’m sure will have their slot reduced to 1 per team which will automatically solve the problem with two of them blasting your team

[forest snow]

hate people that main them

[fiery shoal]

i hate vehicles as an infantry only player, but that doesnt sound that bad

[hidden sand]

It's 2 shots not 3

[hexed mango]

im almost at 20k xp for 1 BP point

[hidden sand]

Reducing transports to 1 per team...? What

[arctic grove]

And you don’t need to camp em to counter either

[forest snow]

needs to be nerfed more then reducing how many. it needs to loose the 50mm

[hexed mango]

i think its fine

:)

[arctic grove]

For good pilots you just need to hack it which makes it useless beyond flying away, just annoy them with that and FXAAs which do really good damage alone let alone multiple teammates as well

[forest snow]

yea the people going 100-0 in games tend to say that aswell

[hexed mango]

i mean i never use hind, but i also seem to never be bothered by it

[arctic grove]

I will say 2 at a time is a nuisance

[fiery shoal]

if it takes at least 2 people to do that then have at it?

[hexed mango]

and whenever i did use the hind, i needed a competent crew for any work to be done
if anything, i should be praising those guys who are going 100-0 because they have a good crew.

[forest snow]

although i am finding if you afterburn as you crash into the hind or condor its kills it and you survive

[arctic grove]

Yea you can ram into them for extra damage

I have a clip doing that to one of em

One of the crew guys body got stuck into my f35 wing

[forest snow]

Mean i would say takes very little skill for a crew to do well in a hind or condor really, but im finding 2042 really doesn't have a skill level

[hexed mango]

that statement is just wrong

if you have people that are only targeting infantry, or vehicles at once, you still cant get much done
plus, if you have a crew that cant shoot properly, you cant get much done
if you have a pilot that cant fly properly, or evade, or use gadgets properly, you cant get much done

[forest snow]

hopefully july patch arrives and transports have been nerfed into the ground

game might be fun again after that

[hexed mango]

yeah no

[wide shore]

If there’s a hind flying anywhere near me I basically just accept death. If they want you dead, you ain’t doing shit about it

[fiery shoal]

seems like youre just looking for a pity party that no one wants to go to but you

[hidden sand]

You can 2 shot infantry, and 4-5 shot tanks.

[arctic grove]

Nah don’t nerf them, just seperate the MAV and transports. I’m pretty sure DICE put 2 transport slots for one MAV and one transport but if you can take 2 hinds or condours why not just do that

[hexed mango]

vehicles are supposed to be dominant, granted not completely oppressive, but dominant.
the 50mm is fine. its just you that's bad at playing the game.

[forest snow]

mean wasn't talking to you really but whatever

[hexed mango]

if you want to counter the hind. play rao.

[wide shore]

Just remove the 50mm. Then they’ll be fine.

[arctic grove]

MAV should just be in a ground transport category or something

[fiery shoal]

youre talking to discord, im in discord... you dont have to address me specifically for anything

[forest snow]

the game just seems to struggle with vehicle balance and i have seem a battlefield struggle with that in a long time.

[hidden sand]

I'm honestly curious on how people think that's balanced.

[forest snow]

cool

[wide shore]

They are transports. They shouldn’t have stronger weapons than the attack vehicles.

[hexed mango]

"cool"

[hidden sand]

They're better AT Helis than the AT helis.

[arctic grove]

1 slot or a seperate slot for MAVs would be fine imo

[forest snow]

im all for a apache buff maybe

[hexed mango]

so then buff the apache

[wide shore]

Not only that. But they can take 4x the damage.

[fiery shoal]

vehicles are randomly earned and set in a casual sandbox shooter, of course balance isnt going to be perfect...

[forest snow]

ahh

[wide shore]

Or just nerf the fucking transports. They’re so clearly outmatching everything else in the game.

[fiery shoal]

when csgo isnt even perfectly balanced and it has much less factors and is game that should be balanced perfectly

[obsidian elk]

I look at chat and people are still trying to argue that the 50mm heli is fine... Yikes

[forest snow]

battlefield 3 is possibly the closest to good vehicle balance, along with battlefield 2

[hidden sand]

BF2 LOL

[hexed mango]

it is fine, everyone else is just having a skill issue cause they arent playing rao

[hidden sand]

Ground vehicle balance was okay in 2, but air vehicles dominated every single map they were in

[wide shore]

You should have to be skilled to drop 100-0 in a game. Anybody who can fly even decently can get their gunner 50-60 kills easily. Shit even I can do it.

[silk surge]

Minibirds are so bugged it's not even funny. They do glitchy backflips everytime something hits it.

[forest snow]

easily countered though i found i never really had issues with air vehicles

[hidden sand]

Specifically jets, which had 2 counters. Tow missile implacements, and using air vehicles.

[wide shore]

It also doesn’t help that most maps are just empty fields. So from above everybody is like ants running on paper.

[hidden sand]

So if the pilot was skilled, it was bombs all day and there was nothing you could do.

[forest snow]

maybe bringing back the auto AA in spawns might help.

[wide shore]

Maybe some AA emplacements in general

[arctic grove]

is there like a breakthrough squads chat

[fiery shoal]

not specificailly BT, but you can go to LFG to find a group

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[wide shore]

The AA gun in the bases in BC2 were great at destroying helicopters as long as you were good and accurate with them. But were very easy to destroy

[forest snow]

still waiting for tanks to get a little bit off love too given how anti MBT 2042 is.

[wide shore]

Tanks need some active protection

[forest snow]

and armour

[hidden sand]

APS wouldn't do anything to help tanks

[hexed mango]

i think all vehicles besides the hind/condor need a buff ngl

apache is underused

[wide shore]

They could also just bring back critical hits. And proper damage models.

[hexed mango]

so is NB

so is MBT
and bolte since its nerf

Wildcat i see more usage than the MBT which i find is weird

[forest snow]

anyone that does well in a apache in a game deserves full credit given how easy it is to take them out.

[hexed mango]

precisely

[forest snow]

wildcat is a better MBT then the MBT

[hexed mango]

:(

[silk surge]

Been playing the BF3 v. 2042 PORTAL mode all day. It's strangely balanced now. The BF3 guns doesn't have those horrible hitreg issues anymore.

[arctic grove]

APS would help but if it were modeled like in 4, it’s good for maybe 1 incoming tank shell or rocket, after that you need to pull away but it’s better than nothing

[wide shore]

Why use Apache when you can use an impossible to hit stealth heli that can fire full auto 30mm’s and drop bombs

[arctic grove]

Lis is just used to shoot tanks from 100 meters away behind varying cover types where she can’t be seen and damage tanks

[hexed mango]

also some gadgets need buffs

like Medpen

[arctic grove]

since when battlefield became "casual sandbox shooter"

[forest snow]

Mean i can go 70-0 in games in a MBT but that's with never stopping and knowing the map and constantly looking for threats its hard work.

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bQrza.gif

[arctic grove]

Lol

[hexed mango]

repair tool needs a buff cause nobody uses it

[wide shore]

Hind repairers do

[hexed mango]

and the EMP grenade

kinda sucks.

[hexed mango]

yeah but i never see them

[fiery shoal]

at what point do you think a large scale shooter is anything but a casual sandbox shooter?

[hexed mango]

its so rare to actually get people to want to actively repair

[wide shore]

I see them constantly

[hexed mango]

:(

i never get repairmen

[forest snow]

oooooo bring back the AA MINE!

[arctic grove]

well if it's a large scale obviously it isn't casual, it's usually competitive instead, and how is it even really sandbox

[fiery shoal]

large scale is inherently casual...

[hexed mango]

its a game.

[fiery shoal]

and its definitely sandbox considering the many ways to play...

[hexed mango]

it can be whatever

you can play it casual
you can play it competitive

¯_(ツ)_/¯