not entirely sure what you are asking here...
#battlefield-2042
fiery shoal
violet meteor
What a time to be alive
silk surge
You do know that factions constitutes more than character models right? You have vehicles such as hind, t28, hannibal, hokum exclusively on the russian side... warchief, M1A5, Condor, huron on the american side.
fiery shoal
What a time to be alive
whyd you have to bring up that commercial
mental cave
what if a lawyer writes dice instead of DICE would that end up messing smth up 🤔
violet meteor
whyd you have to bring up that commercial
It's not a commercial, it's a lifestyle
violet meteor
what if a lawyer writes dice instead of DICE would that end up messing smth up �...
No
I'm a lawyer
bronze steeple
mental cave
I'm a lawyer
really?
uncut bay
what if a lawyer writes dice instead of DICE would that end up messing smth up �...
Prob wouldn’t mess anything up but it would seem a bit unprofessional and careless (not a lawyer)
violet meteor
A fire alarm has been going off in my building for 2 hours
It's like a cricket you can't find in the house
torn wigeon
when i hack a guy with rao does it spot around him aswell
elder ibex
yo i realize the pass was made for mp but what about those that wanna just grind on bots. its bad enough you barely get anything for solo co op but would be nice if you could at least let the battlepass work in those modes too
hazy sun
when i hack a guy with rao does it spot around him aswell
not anymore, his old passive used to spot near by enemies after you killed hacked target
torn wigeon
not anymore, his old passive used to spot near by enemies after you killed hacke...
when i hack a guy it gives me like 5 spots
torn wigeon
not anymore, his old passive used to spot near by enemies after you killed hacke...
this time it gave me 3
hazy sun
guess they just dont require the kill anymore
torn wigeon
and when rao constantly hacks your heli its mad annoying
hazy sun
thats the point
violet meteor
when i hack a guy with rao does it spot around him aswell
Did so for me in a bot game on Saturday
It showed enemy spotted but no exp for them
So 🤷♂️
torn wigeon
It showed enemy spotted but no exp for them
no exp because bot games have limits
violet meteor
Not the same as say, throwing a proximity grenade where it shows exp next to the spots
violet meteor
no exp because bot games have limits
It was my first match
And I don't play much Rao
torn wigeon
And I don't play much Rao
same but morbius reccomended him for exp
violet meteor
Yeah he's pretty good on exposure
hexed mango
i have been summoned
violet meteor
No
hexed mango
;(
torn wigeon
i have been summoned
remember when you reccomended the rao smoke exp
hexed mango
yes
torn wigeon
man i need week 3 now
hexed mango
same
torn wigeon
2 levels away from crossy and then i quit
hexed mango
quitter attitude
grand prism
I finally made it to S1
torn wigeon
in season 2 how will people get bsv and smoke launcher and crossy
torn wigeon
I finally made it to S1
whats s1
grand prism
Season Level 1
grand prism
It's not
hexed mango
S001 is just level 100
grand prism
I call it season levels lol
hexed mango
well thats wrong
hexed mango
i love it when {0:s}
shrewd summit
Is complaining (troll) allowed in this room ((troll)) because if so (((troll))) I'm going to unleash a torrent ((((trope)))).
main jackal
One. Map.
edgy oriole
i love it when {0:s}
https://tenor.com/view/cheat-middlemost-post-press-button-cheat-button-click-the-button-gif-22559651
cosmic pike
seriously who wanted lis ffs
edgy oriole
I actually did tbh. i was surprised. I wanted a explosive specialist that doesnt take 30 years to reload and they dropped her on my lap
cosmic pike
should be limited its so fucking stupid you cant peek for 1 sec
fiery shoal
One. Map.
with another to come out in 2-3 months
it took a long time to get the maps flow going sure, but i think dropping a new map once every couple of months is ideal
gives time for people to actually focus on a map and make opinions on it other than face value takes and people just picking 1 map of the 4 new ones to play over and over because its their favorite
fiery solar
I like this new map hope they do what they did with exposure to future maps
hexed mango
I actually did tbh. i was surprised. I wanted a explosive specialist that doesnt...
ayo
neon iris
should be limited its so fucking stupid you cant peek for 1 sec
She's my favourite specialist
So fun
Deffo op rn tho
marble orchid
Did they put all the portal maps into the game rotation?
neon iris
Did they put all the portal maps into the game rotation?
For exodus
tidal hare
exposure have a lot of cheeky rspn beacon places
marble orchid
now all they have to do is make a legacy map gamemode with only exposure and the old maps
tidal hare
exodus cq/ exodus bt
velvet sand
oh yo, have they said anything about the Portal weapons coming to AOW? Or are those like, a S2 thing.
violet meteor
Sniff sniff I smell a fight about to break out
hexed mango
oh yo, have they said anything about the Portal weapons coming to AOW? Or are th...
i dislike this idea
tidal hare
idk about how should i feel portal weapons in aow
because i for sure dont want to face some bullshittery of unbalanced old weapons
like the frag rounds
marble orchid
honestly they should just make exodus a forever in rotation thing
gotta make the devs realize that it needs to stay, like 64 player conquest
tidal hare
ik it is tuned but still
honestly they should just replace the standard cq and bt with exodus
spiral lake
I just want spectator mode back but in 2042.
tidal hare
since exodus is just standard but more maps
hexed mango
I just want spectator mode back but in 2042.
- commander
velvet sand
i dislike this idea
I mean, they talked about it before S1 and the game desperately needs more weapons. I'm just wondering if they've said anything about when they'll actually drop. It's not all weapons, sounded like they're choosing ones that would actually make sense in 2042.
hexed mango
commander was so fun to be so lazy
just to sit and spot people
and spawn in vehicles
tidal hare
if one side have a better commander they can have a major advantage
hexed mango
I mean, they talked about it before S1 and the game desperately needs more weapo...
it doesnt need more weapons, not desperately at least
tidal hare
wdym defence on bt should have commander
spiral lake
2042 really needs a spec mode, not just for those times you think a player is sus, but also the content creation side of things is immense.
hexed mango
wdym defence on bt should have commander
like the defense side should have a commander
hexed mango
not really when atk gets all the vehicles
tidal hare
but defense can just do the ol swicheroo and just cap different points in the zone
and kneecap the offense
since we have zone cap instead of point cap now
if we talking about point cap i do agree defense is on the weaker side
other than orbital
violet meteor
@hexed mango
hexed mango
<@272875632088842240>
?
tidal hare
since offense vehicles are hard to get in
violet meteor
Remember being a child and saying stuff that started with "I WANT ___"
hexed mango
sorta
tidal hare
and there are a million corridors to kill offense
hexed mango
i was never really super picky
violet meteor
Nice
hexed mango
unlike my cousins
violet meteor
Us urban folks gotta stick together
hexed mango
my uncle is super rich, and hence his kids are always super picky
and on my mom's side, my aunt's kid is an only child, and while that is not bad, no hate to anyone who is an only child, she just never developed the sense of sharing lol
violet meteor
There's more negativity than helping each other with what setups and such
tidal hare
ah shit my hoarding drive is nearly full
violet meteor
Why debate over stuff that you can't agree on but won't change in either sides favor
Oh wait
tidal hare
honestly i think the sense of sharing can be educated during life
like in kindergarten or elementry
hexed mango
i mean im willing to change sides on an argument
its just that i dont see the validity of the portal guns -> aow argument, if they want to keep with how 2042 is
like i like what they did with the BSV, not an exact replica, but a similar copy of a previous gun
that is how they should do it, if they want to move portal guns, they should alter them for usage in 2042
violet meteor
Let's fight over something that won't be implemented
hexed mango
im always happy with more content, but they shouldnt just boringly copy paste what they have in portal into 2042
tidal hare
honestly a lot of players want just more guns
but like
why have 10 5.56 ar that are basically the same
when you can have guns with different characteristics and fulfill different roles
hexed mango
and i feel like 2042's guns have that down (besides the smgs)
like the ARs have their different usages
hexed mango
the DMRs are different, the snipers, the utility weapons, pistols, etc
tidal hare
you have a mg that is for move and gun
hexed mango
i want the M17 [Sig pistol]
hexed mango
or another sniper
violet meteor
If they copy pasted bf4 weapons over to 2042 since they aren't high tech then what
tidal hare
from before launch i always wanted a zip22
violet meteor
Same meta?
tidal hare
to just meme on people
hexed mango
tbh there's only 2 lmgs, another lmg would be nice
drowsy shuttle
Keep an eye on your progression for tiers or other stuff... yesterday i noticed for my sundance tier 1 i lost 20 kills/assists... and today i was checking my progression for the tag Traceless, i had 14 or 15 takedowns... and it went back to 0.. i dunno what the fuck Dice did but i wonder how much progression i lost in other tiers for weapons or specialists...
tidal hare
yeah but another wont provide a different role
drowsy shuttle
what?
violet meteor
Keep an eye on your progression for tiers or other stuff... yesterday i noticed ...
I barely have the time in the day to play a round let alone keep an eye on my stats
tidal hare
for AR, we have M4 which is more opted for close range, AK is for med or longer, Scar is just GL the gun, and AC is a burst rifle
tidal hare
Keep an eye on your progression for tiers or other stuff... yesterday i noticed ...
yeah a lot of my guns are at 360 kills which i dont think they should be?
hexed mango
for AR, we have M4 which is more opted for close range, AK is for med or longer,...
AC is better as a longer range single fire tho
drowsy shuttle
what skill issue? you must be refering to the skill of Devs of dice not mine for sure
tidal hare
but i still have my T1s and shit
hexed mango
what skill issue? you must be refering to the skill of Devs of dice not mine for...
yours.
tidal hare
so i dont really care
all of my guns that i have actually commited times on are still there
violet meteor
what skill issue? you must be refering to the skill of Devs of dice not mine for...
It's more or less a meme at this point lol
Don't take it seriously
hexed mango
It's more or less a meme at this point lol
ur life is a meme
hexed mango
lol alright whatever you say mate now be quiet
you be quiet
violet meteor
My life is a simulation
hexed mango
My life is a simulation
drowsy shuttle
you be quiet
do they pay you to be an idiot or you did you born like that?
hexed mango
do it
hexed mango
im having fun
if you want you can watch some streams first if you want other opinions
tidal hare
hard to go wrong with 40 bucks
violet meteor
Things are only as repetitive as the time you put in without change
edgy oriole
it should be 30 on epic until the 30th
tidal hare
ea play gives 10% off
hexed mango
ah rip
tidal hare
10% more off*
hexed mango
i bought it for my friend a few days ago
edgy oriole
tidal hare
i do have EA play up all the time
because i can play almost every game i want to play
while pay 30 a year
edgy oriole
drowsy shuttle
yeah a lot of my guns are at 360 kills which i dont think they should be?
yeah something weird happened on their servers.. 2 days ago servers were janking and weird.. i dunno if it was related.. but im pretty sure i had 14 or 15 takedowns (i have way more, but the new tag was introduced recently) and i was trying to complete.. and now it went back to 0
tidal hare
if you are into those cosmetics
hexed mango
if you want the battlepass with your game
but you can play normally without it
tidal hare
sure
tidal hare
there is literally no difference between standard and gold
hexed mango
😄
tidal hare
progression wise
hexed mango
there is literally no difference between standard and gold
well you get the bps for free
oh yeah
progression wise
tidal hare
yeah but its not like when you have paid bp you get more progression
drowsy shuttle
there is literally no difference between standard and gold
and there is diference for the ultimate?
tidal hare
like cod
hexed mango
yeah but its not like when you have paid bp you get more progression
yeah yeah you just dont have to buy the BP separately
tidal hare
and there is diference for the ultimate?
unless you really damn like skins
spiral lake
minus some exclusive skins for gold/ultimate its basically the same.
drowsy shuttle
unless you really damn like skins
ah ok, you mean the cosmetics.. i thought you were refering to XP gain or something..
tidal hare
i bought the gold only for the week of pre launch
i did preorder the game yes
more expensive ofc
spiral lake
Ultimate here lol, I still need to make some wallpapers on 2042, Well. new ones anyways
tidal hare
my regional pricing make me able to pay about 80 CAD for gold
which is a good deal for me
drowsy shuttle
its really annoying the progression for tiers or other stuff don't save properly.. i wonder how much i lost before... some people might don't care.. and for the majority of the tiers i don't... but some i like to complete.. its also away to keep people motivated to play the game.. otherwise is boring as fuck...
edgy oriole
ultimate skins werent worth the price increase for me. only cool skin it has is the m5. so i went with gold.
spiral lake
only skin I actually like in ultimate is for Ranger
tidal hare
there is only so much you can do to shoot people with
spiral lake
aka robodog 😄
edgy oriole
its an fps game. of course it gets repetitive
tidal hare
but this game have portal
so objectively
you have more things to play with
the thing where you can play bf3, 1942, bc2 stuff
drowsy shuttle
it gets boring yes... if you're trying to do some achievments or get to tier 1 to some stuff, it can be a way to keep you motivated... but if you play just for play.. after 1h... 2h top, it gets boring af...
spiral lake
Ranger wyd?
"chillin.. hbu?"
drowsy shuttle
for this price? no way! 25$ is the right price for the game...
tidal hare
wat
drowsy shuttle
i got mine as a birthday gift.. i got lucky.. gold edition... but even that way i told my friend he was kind of an idiot to spend money on it lol
no way in hell bf2042 is worth 60 euros... and the game is kinda fun now... but not worth the 60 euros.. half yes
and after 11pm is really hard to find a full server... unless its the weekend
edgy torrent
am i missing something on the main jet cannons or are they just ass?
i really need to tweak jet controls cause they feel very jerky when you are 'ADS' with them
hidden sand
Really just comes down to the flight physics not being good.
edgy torrent
ah i know, but usually I can tweak settings to make them workable
at elast I can jump in Bot matches and tweak settings
torn wigeon
80k before i get crossy ima be level 59 maybe 60 before crossy
hexed mango
Ranger wyd?
"chillin.. hbu?"
pet it
tidal hare
and after 11pm is really hard to find a full server... unless its the weekend
You in Europe?
spiral lake
It's k.. Recon from BF3 was playing some BFV while he was waiting for someone to snipe on Breakaway
yer.
dude's just chillin'
fiery solar
Wish the sky looks like that in game
hexed mango
It's k.. Recon from BF3 was playing some BFV while he was waiting for someone t...
tbh im wondering by the deploy thing says Pac on it
do you think its PAC like Personal A-Something C-Something
or it is in reference to Pac
glossy mirage
please dont join chan if you are afk /:/
hexed mango
please dont join chan if you are afk /:/
chan?
spiral lake
probably a squad channel or voip channel or something?
hexed mango
kinda weird thing to say here ngl
spiral lake
one of these days imma record the rocket going off on portal and make it a wallpaper, Just get multiple angles and splice it allllll into one tidy video
calm bison
Spitfire in real life: literal god of a fighter plane, envied by even the axis
Spitfire in BFV and 2042: noOoOo please don’t hurt me BF109! I’m not that good!
More so in BFV than 2042
In 2042 you can barely fly either aircraft
spiral lake
I can't fly in BF at all, I fly as gracefully as a housebrick.
MS flight sim on the other hand....
calm bison
Doesn’t help that the physics in change between battlefield games
hexed mango
Spitfire in real life: literal god of a fighter plane, envied by even the axis
...
sounds like a #portal issue
calm bison
Seriously, the planes in Bf1942 are like the worst to fly in game
spiral lake
And I mean MS Flight sim on the other hand... I can get pretty darn close to landmarks
hexed mango
Seriously, the planes in Bf1942 are like the worst to fly in game
tbh i like them
calm bison
How to crash a 747
spiral lake
I did my first landing last night in a 737 with the weather set to snow and the time of day set to night with heavy snow showers using only a small map which shows the flight path
spiral lake
I love it lol, I had FS 98 ( I still have the disk ) but I couldnt fly on that
hexed mango
i didnt realize what it was until just now
hexed mango
I love it lol, I had FS 98 ( I still have the disk ) but I couldnt fly on that
probably cause that game has realistic physics
calm bison
Given that we have Bf pilots and MFS pilots, how do we feel about WAR THUNDER
hexed mango
i want to kill myself everytime i play that game
spiral lake
I havent played WT in such a long time
calm bison
i want to kill myself everytime i play that game
Mood
spiral lake
I like the cinematic possibilities in that game but the flying is quite detailed so novice pilots wont find much fun in it
unlike MSFS where you can set it to EZ mode
calm bison
It’s really frustrating to play on console
Especially for bombers
Looking back on it I probably would’ve unlocked the B29 by the time I graduate college
spiral lake
some big stuff coming to MSFS in either the next patch or the one after
calm bison
Which is why I moved to World of tanks 
spiral lake
DLSS being a major one and more performance improvements to DX12
like.. I crank the sim at 4K ultra in DX12 with RT on, I'll be happy for a nice buff to performance with DLSS, I just hope its implemented right so the visuals arent degraded
crude surge
So how does everyone like the GVT 45-70
spiral lake
I've been using it since I first unlocked it
coral radish
Having a hard time with matchmaking tonight
calm bison
Honestly once I unlocked the 6x scope and heavy suppressor, the thing sounds meaty
Like a loud clap every time you fire
spiral lake
GVT is excellent as an anti-sniper weapon, 6X scope, suppressor and keep the standard mags.
thick spoke
Nerf the super hind
crude surge
I've been using it since I first unlocked it
I've been neglecting it in favor of cranking out submachine gun attachments but I'm about to give it a try
thick spoke
Also when did the condor become so bad
hallow sierra
it is?
spiral lake
I've been neglecting it in favor of cranking out submachine gun attachments but ...
Go to youtube and Watch some of Ravics videos using the GVT, I blame him for getting me hooked on it.
calm bison
It’s not terrible, but it’s certainly less powerful than the hind
calm bison
The hind is tankier
But that’s probably because the condor is faster
The stealth choppers melt them tho
thick spoke
It's hardly a good trade
Everything melts condor
Stealth chopper is game breaking imo
calm bison
Yeah
But I’d rather deal with a stealth chopper than a hind because I can at least kill the stealth chopper
tidal hare
Go to youtube and Watch some of Ravics videos using the GVT, I blame him for ge...
I liked mares leg when it wasn't main hand
calm bison
Killing a hind is like trying to kill Godzilla with tennis balls
thick spoke
I also hate that they changed how many of what slot you can have. Like killed the vehicle game. One attack slot
calm bison
It gets worse on the maps that are gigantic, like Breakaway and Hourglass
These giant ass maps have only one attack vehicle per side
BFV had less players and smaller maps and had more air vehicles and tanks
thick spoke
Yep*
tidal hare
final 83 kills on xbow
hallow sierra
does anyone here play on xbox and found a way to display it on pc
tidal hare
and T1 is done
thick spoke
Idk why they changed how getting. Wbu les worked from bf5
thick spoke
Launch was good imo
tidal hare
does anyone here play on xbox and found a way to display it on pc
monitor or you want it display on your windows pc
hidden sand
Seriously, the planes in Bf1942 are like the worst to fly in game
It's really a shame that the flight physics are as bad as they are. There's probably no improvements coming to them either.
calm bison
And instead of balancing the attack vehicles
hallow sierra
monitor or you want it display on your windows pc
windows pc
thick spoke
It's really a shame that the flight physics are as bad as they are. There's prob...
It's battlefield not flight sim
calm bison
It's battlefield not flight sim
Yeah and it’s not unreasonable to be able to fly the planes in game
tidal hare
windows pc
iirc there is a something like local network streaming
hidden sand
? How do you come to the conclusion that I wanted a flight sim because I called the physics bad?
hallow sierra
like i try getting it but it keep saying dat i need to sign in on console so it can be displa
calm bison
Try ground pounding in the spitfire in 2042
tidal hare
but it works like shit
calm bison
Like actually try using the machine guns in the WW2 aircraft
Hell even the BF3 aircraft
thick spoke
I like the little bird being classified as attack. But it shouldn't only have one slot
hidden sand
I'm not talking about realism. I'm talking about the handling in game. It feels like you're flying through mud.
thick spoke
And the plane should be it's own
thick spoke
I'm not talking about realism. I'm talking about the handling in game. It feels ...
Yep it's trash
hallow sierra
iirc there is a something like local network streaming
yea i use dat but everytime it keep saying dat i need to sign in to my console so it can stream and idk how to do dat
tidal hare
Idk
calm bison
BF pilots universally agree that BFV has pretty shit physics compared to 4 and 1 but damn at least I can fly well in BFV. 2042 feels like I’m flying the world’s least stable aircraft
2042 jets turn like a grand piano in sand
calm bison
WW2 planes are completely impossible to fly
tidal hare
jets have turn radius of a football field and a half
spiral lake
At least the spitfire in FS looks good tho aha
hidden sand
The Helicopters don't feel great either, but they're better than the jets for sure.
calm bison
Like I’ve never felt good flying and shooting in 3rd person in 2042
Third person flying in 2042 feels like shit
spiral lake
yeah what IS that!? the 3p view on helis are horrendous.
hidden sand
You essentially can't build velocity with Helis in 2042. They have the same sluggish problems jets do.
You aim straight at the ground yet the games like, "Would you like a pillow with your delicate fall?"
calm bison
Also love that goddamn horizon lock
You have to fight your plane when strafing the ground
BFV has it for the spitfires
But it’s not this bad in BFV
In BFV I can still control it. In 2042 it feels like the plane is rocking up and down
Same goes for the choppers
torn wigeon
any faster way of grinding weapon attachments than orbital ai
torn wigeon
man i hate it because ai are so shit and i make them ai extinct and my team takes the point
torn wigeon
by default theyre set to beginner IIRC
yeah but the difficulty isnt the problem them spawning slow is the problem
spiral lake
idk, I've had games where the AI kills each other before they get to the points aha
tidal hare
yeah but the difficulty isnt the problem them spawning slow is the problem
Pace your kills
Keep the ai on obj more than your team
crude surge
Man the GVT rifle slaps
tidal hare
i dont like GVT
crude surge
Idk why I even bothered with the bolt action snipers
tidal hare
because i hit no headshots
thats why NTW was my favourite gun
now 70 more kills til i can show that my fav is xbow
hexed mango
GVT is sexy
spiral lake
welp... I just got an addon for flight sim which adds drones, hot air balloons and random hazards, AND you can talk to your passengers over the PA aha.. god I love how good FS is getting now with the addons.
hexed mango
its still a shitty simulator
spiral lake
Naw its decent, better than previous entries anyway, and visually gorgeous.
hexed mango
visuals != good simulation
spiral lake
visuals are a large part of it tho, whats the point in having realistic flight physics when the visuals dont match
hexed mango
cause its a simulator not a movie theater
violet talon
it's ruined my moment for my left time before join Real military...
hexed mango
what
spiral lake
theres even addons for it that adds wind shear and turbulence etc when flying through storms, the default vanilla weather presets are aight but theyre not a challenge
torn wigeon
GVT is sexy
so funny
violet talon
Not good but sexy gun
torn wigeon
ok
hexed mango
Not good but sexy gun
get better at hitting headshots
worthy inlet
Gvt is best gun honestly
torn wigeon
no
tidal hare
no
worthy inlet
Yes
tidal hare
no
torn wigeon
gvt is a sniper shotgun mistake
violet talon
it's quite need skills but if you good at aim that will be Best gun
torn wigeon
stick to your job dumb shotgun
spiral lake
GVT beats bolt actions every time
tidal hare
but my muscle memory auto hits those bodys
worthy inlet
Gvt is the skill cannon that doesn't even need a lot of skill
tidal hare
sad
spiral lake
I used to main the DXR until I unlocked the GVT
torn wigeon
I used to main the DXR until I unlocked the GVT
and then you mained the auto shotty
and that changed your life
violet talon
what's your main gun?
spiral lake
and then you mained the auto shotty
Nope ahaha, I can't stand the bloody thing 😂
torn wigeon
what's your main gun?
k30
torn wigeon
yeah but i main it i use to main mp9 then bsv then k30 and now k30 and auto shotty
violet talon
yeah but i main it i use to main mp9 then bsv then k30 and now k30 and auto shot...
Auto shotty means 12m Auto?
violet talon
Slug Shotgun with Scope lol
tidal hare
who tf use NTW with a actual scope instead of K8 reflex
torn wigeon
who tf use NTW with a actual scope instead of K8 reflex
iron sights is for men
torn wigeon
my addiction started with kobra reflex in insurgency
sandstorm is great but circles arent sex
squares are
copper elk
or M5A3 9mm with short barrel
Which is funny because the M5A3 which is based on the Sig Sauer MCX shoots 5.56x45, .300 Blackout, and .308 Nato rounds. The SIG Spear which is the current version the rifle was further developed into shoots 6.8mm x 51
tidal hare
obviously i meant the old insurgency 2
copper elk
Trying to decide which version of the Sig the M5A3 in game is based off of.
torn wigeon
the one hits is where it at
siege
copper elk
I'm guessing likely the Sig MCX Virtus. The Patrol variant with the 16" barrel
Either way, it's funny that the rifle has 9mm option in game. I know this game isn't a simulator by any stretch, but even the developers confirmed the M5 is the Sig MCX
torn wigeon
how much would it hurt to be at 1 health irl
copper elk
how much would it hurt to be at 1 health irl
You'd be in ICU on life support.
hexed mango
edgy oriole
violet meteor
Nice just going off what I remember people saying here I won bingo from left to right through the middle
Woohoo
old fractal
I hope the next battlefield will have no specialist
I know ea likes money so make character custimization
torn wigeon
I hope the next battlefield will have no specialist
i hope next battlefield has no guns
tropic marsh
is the weekly reset for the BP missions on every Thursday?
edgy oriole
is the weekly reset for the BP missions on every Thursday?
yes
tropic marsh
thats what i thought thanks
tired brook
edgy oriole
First rocket went right through the helo and i got sad bc i thought he flew away while i had to wait for cool down. luckily he was nice enough to not go anywhere. 
edgy oriole
<:moon2SMUG:901721406474190919>
tired brook
lmao nice
violet meteor
Lol @hexed mango you should post that bingo card every Friday but make a generator to randomize the placement of tiles
Or just make another
dull carbon
Eric Perrin x Ryan Makhoul
tardy fossil
Kinda dont like the tow missiles in the game I want them to add TV missiles back
Closest thing to a TV missile is lis Rocket launcher
arctic grove
cope
dull carbon
Do cope
latent acorn
Wtf happened to CoD Killer
dull carbon
It got killed
ivory prism
Murdered
latent acorn
Lol
hexed mango
Lol <@272875632088842240> you should post that bingo card every Friday but make ...
it is randomly generated, there’s like 50 something cards
latent acorn
I'm seriously fucking pissed rn
dull carbon
I'm seriously fucking pissed rn
Chill it's a video game
latent acorn
Chill it's a video game
No, BF3 Remastered now
hexed mango
No, BF3 Remastered now
that’s an unconfirmed rumor
violet meteor
Love it
past pier
So today I've died like 5 times in a hind to recon drones. I don't think it's even c5, just says the drone killed us. what is this?
edgy oriole
emp will only kill if extremely low health
past pier
Gone from 100 to ded instantly
dull carbon
Then it's C5
hidden sand
So today I've died like 5 times in a hind to recon drones. I don't think it's e...
It's the C5 drone. For whatever reason it displays it as the drone itself.
edgy oriole
a better question is why you stationary so long for a slow ass c5 drone to take you out 
past pier
It's just so cheap 😦 I get the hind 50mm is a bit over tuned, but even when I'm on def, you can keep it in check with good play
I'm never stationary, I'm flying usually full speed, and then splat ded.
dapper river
fuckin just went 121-2 with the buffed hind 50mm. LOL thanks DICE 
past pier
I just can't believe the C5 on drones hasn't been patched, I love running the wildcat and it gets me there too. there's just no way to defend against it.
violet meteor
I just can't believe the C5 on drones hasn't been patched, I love running the wi...
It's not a daily or even weekly thing
edgy oriole
I think vehicles should have an emp blast that takes up a slot somewhere.
tranquil turtle
bruh the stock bsvm is a hitmarker machine
violet meteor
bruh the stock bsvm is a hitmarker machine
It's a beauty
Now out better rounds and sights on it
jaunty fjord
dice still no fix c5 drone?
50mm canon on helicopter is the worst thing dice ever done,still broken vehicle balance,why they dont copy bf4 vehicle and weapon balance
tranquil turtle
the solution to the vehicle problem is more vehicles
violet meteor
the solution to the vehicle problem is more vehicles
I think the solution is a quicker cooldown
tranquil turtle
if there were actual jets and helis to fight the hinds they would be less of a problem
wise zodiac
I almost fuckin died. 
jaunty fjord
Not even doing basic global player chat what the hell is dice doing
violet meteor
No no no @tranquil turtle I'm sorry
I agree I just meant quicker cooldowns when air is downed
Let's others get a chance
Increase air for sure
tranquil turtle
maybe 45 seconds instead of the 1:30
tranquil turtle
Not even doing basic global player chat what the hell is dice doing
that was to "reduce toxicity"
violet meteor
Like the countdown ends and I think I can fly but then it's immediately gray cuz there's the 1 in the air still
tranquil turtle
I would be fine getting yelled at during my last match for getting a 5 man multi kill with a c5 drone
jaunty fjord
If the vehicle is not enhanced, adding more vehicles is also going to die
violet meteor
Sorry mobile is a bitch
tranquil turtle
you are the mr clean
I am the danger
jaunty fjord
c5 drones shouldn't be in this game
jaunty fjord
new dice dont wanna fix it right?
violet meteor
They are doing to 128 what should be for 64
wise zodiac
Sorry mobile is a bitch
Agree.
violet meteor
It's all I can do, I work 330 to midnight mon fri
Devs didn't show today did they?
hexed mango
power just went out
violet meteor
power just went out
Stop, you'll bring @dull carbon here
dull carbon
DID SOMEONE SAY POWER JUST WENT OUT
grizzled whale
Power just came back on
violet meteor
You know what
I'm sorry yall
I did yall bogus
No ryan power is back
It's good don't worry
dull carbon
O
wise zodiac
I have power 10 hours a day only i'm an expert on such matters
Wait, why only for 10 hours?
violet meteor
He's lebanese
violet meteor
Fuck I'm inviting it in lol
wise zodiac
That still doesn't really answer why.
wise zodiac
Ah, that explains it.
dull carbon
Well technically
violet meteor
BTW xero me and Ryan are very good friends so I'm not being a dick
violet meteor
His situation is serious tho
dull carbon
But the rest is from a generator
wise zodiac
Dang.
dull carbon
And not a small portable generator
A big building sized one
Which costs a lot but hey
wise zodiac
Yeah a commercial generator.
dull carbon
Yes yes i love telling people about my lebaneseness
violet meteor
Indeed my apprentice
dull carbon
Did i mention 6 pieces of grilled asparagus is 300$
wise zodiac
Could always be worse.
violet meteor
Could always be worse.
Welcome to my world with this guy
dull carbon
hexed mango
power is indeed back yes
violet meteor
His biggest problem this week was that he couldn't download fortnite in less than a day
hexed mango
however something got corrupted on my pc
dull carbon
My biggest problem this week is that my internet been offline for 18 hours
violet meteor
Ryan plays 2042 pretty hard-core tho
violet meteor
So if you can get him on your team for a night do it
dull carbon
Im good just bad
violet meteor
He's a solid dude
hexed mango
what timezone is Lebanon in
violet meteor
It's 10:04pm cst
dull carbon
Well yeah my kd is like 1 on 2042 but thats with crossplay on and im on console so i guess its good
dull carbon
Perrinoid
Send that pic
Of 300k lira asparagus
It actually feels like a shitpost
But it's 100% true and legit
300000 liras is 200 american dollars
dull carbon
Lemme link it
hexed mango
1 USD is 17 Lira
keen loom
hexed mango
keen loom
raven swift
hey guys ive got a weird issue that stops the battle pass missions from counting my kills with assault rifles or whatever it asks of me and the only one that counts is the top XP objective
anyone know how to fix it?
hexed mango
i honestly cant tell because i feel like OW2 is just kinda a sham but idk
hexed mango
hey guys ive got a weird issue that stops the battle pass missions from counting...
what
you're not in coop right
raven swift
i am
hexed mango
missions dont progress in coop
raven swift
omfg
hexed mango
only the xp one
keen loom
i honestly cant tell because i feel like OW2 is just kinda a sham but idk
As someone who’s played the beta it’s definitely a fresh experience with 5v5. A lot more fast paced, next week is beta 2
raven swift
fml
hexed mango
really? nice
i want to get it, but all i heard was that it was kinda just the same thing
just looks different
i dont 100% believe that, but i am eager to try it
keen loom
It’s going to be free to play anyway
keen loom
hexed mango
oh
hexed mango
like is it based on gold / silver
dull carbon
Yeah of course
cosmic sequoia
god i wish they would increase the amount of attack choppers back to 2-3
dull carbon
Its our national currency
cosmic sequoia
russia > us in 2042
dull carbon
Oh idk bout that
Also its 410000
Not 300
So more than 200$
💀 💀
Zimbabwe moment
hexed mango
lol
edgy oriole
lol
just had the longest exposure match. the whole enemy team was sniping in their spawn minus the few that were in tank and helo
hexed mango
hehehehehehaw
novel torrent
So question for any next gen players does progress I do on the Xbox one version or the x|s version carry over to the other?
hexed mango
xp progress stays but i dont think BP progress does
violet meteor
Damn I'm gone for a bit and Ryan explodes
grizzled whale
god i wish they would increase the amount of attack choppers back to 2-3
Lol no
hexed mango
sub 10 minute round
jaunty fjord
Why didn't dice make 2042's first-person execution back?
jaunty fjord
The third person execution is so slow it feels like playing cod
cosmic sequoia
they nerfed tf out of helicopters because blueberries just bad at the game. cant work together to destroy aircraft/ground armor
wide shore
Lmao
Helicopters are not nerfed. AT ALL
Some dude just dropped a 120-1 with a stealth heli in a game I was just playing
Any hind is Guaranteed a 50+ kill with the 50mm
grizzled whale
How rare
wide shore
Any semi competent pilot can dominate in this game.
cosmic sequoia
the regular atack helicopters arent op. the stealth helicopter can last forever
wide shore
They’re fucking broken rn. Idc what anyone says. The 50mm should not exist on any flying vehicles.
cosmic sequoia
same with the jet. then every1 else just has to have their dick in their hand
grizzled whale
The reason you want more choppers in the game is because you cant do anything as infantry
And proceed to call me bad
wide shore
I will agree the normal attack helicopters are shit.
grizzled whale
Annoying that you cant farm infantry in your overpowered, heli? Oh boo hoo
1 is enough
wide shore
But the stealth helis, nightbirds and both transport choppers are the bane of this games existence.
ESPECIALLY the transports
Or excuse me. Gunships
grizzled whale
But the stealth helis, nightbirds and both transport choppers are the bane of th...
What about the people that beam you from fucking orbit as a gunner in the normal attack heli
cosmic sequoia
the super hind is also 10x better than the condor
wide shore
They’re both still dumb as fuck.
grizzled whale
Agreed
cosmic sequoia
for sure
wide shore
Delete the 50mm from them
grizzled whale
Although if you give me a wildcat i will make them fuck off real fast
cosmic sequoia
they're what dominates the sky. the super hind either needs a huge nerf, or the condor needs more armor
grizzled whale
They just wont be able to fly around cuz they will be running constantly
wide shore
They should’ve just made the transport helicopters actual transport helicopters
cosmic sequoia
for sure
like in 4
having side guns makes sense, the little 7.62s
maybe a 20mm
wide shore
The little grenade launcher is fine
cosmic sequoia
theres just no middle ground
wide shore
But a 50mm? 
cosmic sequoia
BTW helicopters used to be OP, rockets used to do wayyyyyy more damage
grizzled whale
Or remove the ability to pull out a repair tool while inside
cosmic sequoia
nahhh thats been in battlefield
grizzled whale
Doesnt mean its a good thing
wide shore
It’s like DICE decided to just make transports fucking crazy in this game. First the hovercraft, then the bolte, now the helicopters
grizzled whale
2 people constantly repairing will outrepair most damage
hidden sand
What about the people that beam you from fucking orbit as a gunner in the normal...
Nah, that's not happening and if it is they're maybe getting 5 kills. The cannon requires a lot of hits now.
cosmic sequoia
maybe slow the repair rate while the vehicle is on
the super hind is just so much better than the condor, and the vehicles spawn timer needs to be reduced. also reduce transport vehicle count and increase attack vehicle count.
battlefield 4 and 5, both 64 player games allow for more vehicles on the board at once, yet the game plays so much better and never really feels overwhelming.
violet meteor
2 people constantly repairing will outrepair most damage
I'll always be there to repair your damage
fringe quarry
Nah, that's not happening and if it is they're maybe getting 5 kills. The cannon...
They drastically reduced the amount of splash with the miniguns
tidal hare
the match i finished the T1 grind
fringe quarry
making your hit probability a lot lower
tidal hare
is the match that i did the best
we literally pushed the enemies back to spawn in C1 with them full ticket
and yeah i got 60 kill+assist
at least 40 are crossbow kills
amazing fun really
xbow is very good in peek and shoot situation
since you have superior ttk to literally any other weapon other than NTW
where you share the same ttk
tight ibex
its not battlefield if people aren't bitching and moaning about vehicles
tidal hare
i do hate vehicles
fringe quarry
its not battlefield if your team mates are actually paying attention to the objective they're standing 5 meters in front of
tight ibex
you play objective? I just play super hind gunner
hexed mango
you play gunner? i just crash
tight ibex
you guys play the game? I load in just to crash to matchmaking screen
hazy sun
you guys play the game? I load in just to crash to matchmaking screen
git gud
tidal hare
honestly xbow is a lot more fun than weapons like vcar
where there is times that the weapon is better than others
unlike vcar, it is just shit
hexed mango
Explosive bolts are still underwhelming tho
tidal hare
which makes sense since it is literally a cmr30
which is a .22 "carbine"
well
thats why i dont use explosive bolts other than for meme long range xbow
i honestly have developed muscle memory for exposure bt US side spawn kill RU people running in
headshots, every time
still depends on if enemy are stupid or not
but they usually run in straight line
scenic tartan
2 people constantly repairing will outrepair most damage
other air vehicles used to be able to kill them but now there's only one per team and they dont stand a chance against the transports.
Too many people complained about helis
hexed mango
somehow i got a kill.
note: this is my internet
like i am barely touching my keyboard or mouse, its just so delayed
dull carbon
Uhhhh pretty sure this isnt lag
scenic tartan
has anyone else had these random [TERMINATED] Deaths when nothing is going on, no vehicles, no physics objects, nothing
https://twitter.com/ChelleGGTV/status/1539310682922881029
violet meteor
somehow i got a kill.
Never have I encountered lag like that
Oh
Still, never encountered that lol
But I have a console and great internet
hexed mango
me neither, this is a first
dull carbon
I have absolute shit internet and still never lagged this hard
tidal hare
somehow i got a kill.
this looks more like heavy stuttering than anything else
hexed mango
this looks more like heavy stuttering than anything else
my fps was fine tho
tidal hare
stutter isnt always tied to fps
you can have perfectly fine frame rate but you stil stutter like shit
i recommend restart game/pc
or console if you are on console
hexed mango
i got off a while ago
violet meteor
Trust me this aint lag
K we are over the lag issue
dull carbon
Skill issue
grizzled whale
other air vehicles used to be able to kill them but now there's only one per tea...
Nerf the transports and change nothing else
violet meteor
Apparently a lot of issues at this moment
grizzled whale
Also, a stealth chopper with 30mm can easily take down a hind
hexed mango
penis
violet meteor
Indeed
dull carbon
Penis
grizzled whale
They can stay out of the gunners sights with ease and just keep blastin
tidal hare
about 10 off for me
violet meteor
still its 12 levels off
Poor you
hexed mango
apparently, according to mozzy, its due to either
A) miscalculation of xp -> level by TRN
or
B) dice failed to report xp, as they also havent reported info for S1 yet (like battlepass, exposure, BSV, crossbow, etc)
unkempt tartan
Gang
hexed mango
gang
unkempt tartan
Morbin time
hexed mango
i concur
violet meteor
hexed mango
lol
unkempt tartan
Smoking a jernt and loading up 2042 LETS GO
unkempt tartan
Joint
hexed mango
ok
violet meteor
...
unkempt tartan
I just call em jernt
violet meteor
U knew what it was
hexed mango
yeah but i wasnt sure if it was a mis-spell or a different thing
violet meteor
I gotta finish this game with the girlfriend tonight
unkempt tartan
I gotta finish this game with the girlfriend tonight
What game
violet meteor
hexed mango
ayo
violet meteor
Then we gotta finish wonderlands
grizzled whale
Weapon kills on trn are still off too
hexed mango
i started watching the watchmen movie last night
grizzled whale
i started watching the watchmen movie last night
You still watching now
hexed mango
and now im watching the boys ep 5
grizzled whale
Long ass movie
violet meteor
https://tenor.com/view/it-takes-two-gif-24547374
I feel like I just spoiled the game with choosing a gif for the game
hexed mango
no i didnt finish it
violet meteor
Nahhhhhhh
hexed mango
im like 40 minutes in
grizzled whale
Ive never been able to finish it
hexed mango
Zack Snyder is sexy
hexed mango
if you think that is long
grizzled whale
Boring
hexed mango
check out his latest movie
grizzled whale
Which one
hexed mango
JL
grizzled whale
JL was properly paced and entertaining
Watchmen was boring most of the movie
And poorly paced
scenic tartan
Nerf the transports and change nothing else
nerf the transports and have 3 armored and 3 attack spawns per side
hexed mango
Watchmen was boring most of the movie
idk i like it
grizzled whale
1 is already an issue
scenic tartan
lmao the vehicles can barely survive having 1 spawn is useless
grizzled whale
Good
scenic tartan
go play cod kid
grizzled whale
Choppers bad
hexed mango
im the type of guy that likes the dark knight trilogy and watchmen
grizzled whale
Only good chopper is a burning chopper
scenic tartan
Rao can just hack you every 5 seconds and you cant play the game but choppers are overpowered ok
grizzled whale
go play cod kid
Why did you even unblock me if you are just gonna be salty as always lol
scenic tartan
I think rao should be able to hack infantry so they cant shoot their gun or sprint or heal themselves
then infantry would whine
remove the rocket pods from the NB, buff the attack heli, improve the accuracy on the jet and have 3 per side
grizzled whale
Choppers dont need a buff
scenic tartan
Lol can't shoot their gun
thats what he does to helis and tanks
grizzled whale
You can farm infantry just fine with them
scenic tartan
Choppers dont need a buff
the regular attack heli is completely useless it dies to everything
violet meteor
Get 10 people on breakthrough shutting off infantry guns
grizzled whale
As it should
scenic tartan
the regular attack heli cannot do anything it is the worst helicopter the series has ever had
violet meteor
I'm so glad som of yall are on the complaining end rather than the dev end
scenic tartan
BF4 had balance right for vehicles
violet meteor
You'd be lined up and shot
grizzled whale
The only good chopper is a destroyed chopper
violet meteor
I think rao should be able to hack infantry so they cant shoot their gun or spri...
This is gold
Thanks spud
scenic tartan
Its ok for helis to be fragile but when it takes 90 seconds to get another one and there's only one for 64 players to use
grizzled whale
Needs a longer respawn time
scenic tartan
This is gold
its a joke man to show how ridiculous it is that he can make helis not be able to shoot
grizzled whale
Like 7 hours
scenic tartan
Needs a longer respawn time
troll - ur bad kid cant shoot down helis when there's 10x as many ways to than old games
violet meteor
its a joke man to show how ridiculous it is that he can make helis not be able t...
You said infantry guns lmao
Love it
scenic tartan
You said infantry guns lmao
yeah imagine how stupid it would be if rao could make infantry not be able to shoot your gun
thats how stupid it is that helis cant shoot when hacked
grizzled whale
Give me a wildcat and ill keep the skies clear the whole match
violet meteor
In 2042, all guns are electronic cuz fUtUrE
tepid breach
nice to see battlefield is dying
scenic tartan
Give me a wildcat and ill keep the skies clear the whole match
I run AGM and take out wildcats 🤭
violet meteor
nice to see battlefield is dying
@hexed mango for the bingo card
tepid breach
<@272875632088842240> for the bingo card
anywho
grizzled whale
yeah imagine how stupid it would be if rao could make infantry not be able to sh...
Helicopter full of computers and electronics being hacked =/= a gun being hacked
scenic tartan
Give me a wildcat and ill keep the skies clear the whole match
plus wildcats are EZ dunk targets for TV missiles and cant stay alive anymore either
tepid breach
<@272875632088842240> for the bingo card
(ps5 player opinion invalid)
grizzled whale
I run AGM and take out wildcats 🤭
And you call me bad lol
hexed mango
<@272875632088842240> for the bingo card
ayeaye
violet meteor
Cope
scenic tartan
Helicopter full of computers and electronics being hacked =/= a gun being hacked
do you think this is ARMA or something the soldiers have magically regenerating missiles its about game balance not realism
grizzled whale
Keep crying about how your extremely overpowered shit is limited, ill enjoy the game while its not ruined by trash that can only use helis
violet meteor
We got some grounded children that snuck into their parents room while they sleep and got their phones back
tepid breach
my guy you look like youre pushing 40
violet meteor
Perhaps, but I don't get grounded
tepid breach
yeah but you got no bitches either ong
violet meteor
Insert 25 cents to try again
grizzled whale
He broke
violet meteor
Shit
tepid breach
anyways
ornate pecan
Actually—I’m a little late here, for this convo, but have been meaning to ask about this all day—speaking of helicopters...
They seem to have generally patched the issues with vehicle and turret movement throwing off the path of launched grenades and rockets, but has anyone else noticed that the Super Hind still has that bug? The VTOL doesn’t seem to, certainly not to a noticeable extent, but the Super Hind... If it’s using the 40mm grenade launcher, and it ascends, lobbed grenades that are already in flight will take on a flat trajectory, flying straight forward, until the helicopter stops ascending, at which point they’ll finally fall. Similarly, if it descends, grenades that are already in flight will suddenly drop like a rock.
tepid breach
Insert 25 cents to try again
that low? are we in detroit?
tepid breach
doesnt mean i care either my man
grizzled whale
You care enough to make bad comebacks
scenic tartan
Keep crying about how your extremely overpowered shit is limited, ill enjoy the...
only thing overpowered is the transports and TV missile
hexed mango
<@272875632088842240> for the bingo card
i already have "dead game"
grizzled whale
Chopper scrub pretending choppers arent OP
tepid breach
You care enough to make bad comebacks
well its 11:53 am and my only other option is to get wasted
grizzled whale
go do that
scenic tartan
battlefield is a game where helis should be something infantry has to deal with, if you dont like that maybe you would like to play a simpler game
hexed mango
try harder
grizzled whale
battlefield is a game where helis should be something infantry has to deal with,...
"Has to dealth with" i agree
scenic tartan
remove the nose gun for the trnasports
violet meteor
its not working
Fucking huge skill issue
scenic tartan
give it one rep seat and two passenger seats that cant rep
tepid breach
Fucking huge skill issue
clearly you dont know how drinking in russia works
grizzled whale
Choppers already farm infantry extremely easily
tepid breach
lack of skill is if you get wasted right off the bat
scenic tartan
choppers already get hacked and fucked over by soflam+m5 one shot and TV missile one shot
grizzled whale
Even a rookie pilot can farm infantry
scenic tartan
the hacking mechanic is total bullshit
grizzled whale
Wah wah my super OP vehicle has a counter wah wah
unkempt tartan
Tf going on
scenic tartan
If DICE hadnt listened to the low IQ infantry takes then air vehicles would have other air vehicles to fight but now there's only one per side so once that battle is over they just farm infantry
unkempt tartan
I went to smoke shit going crazy
violet meteor
clearly you dont know how drinking in russia works
I know you have a drinking issue in Russia or anywhere
You're not gonna win this with me lol
tepid breach
I know you have a drinking issue in Russia or anywhere
thats the point of the statement mongoloid
unkempt tartan
The new choppers are OP tho
scenic tartan
whoever wins the ONE air battle that happens every 2-3 minutes, the air vehicle that wins gets free reign to farm
grizzled whale
Tf going on
Chopper scrub wanting a chopper buff acting like they arent op already
tepid breach
youre not very quick are you
scenic tartan
The new choppers are OP tho
the stealth heli is OP
unkempt tartan
But choppers are OP in rl I don’t think they should change it maybe buff some other shit
scenic tartan
it has way too much shit going on
unkempt tartan
The stealth shit in general is a bitch
scenic tartan
They should remove the rocket pods and make the minigun work and not spray all over the fucking place
violet meteor
youre not very quick are you
Within 10 feet I'm the quickest mother fucker you've ever not seen
scenic tartan
if the minigun worked like BF4
unkempt tartan
Add a hovering jet for the Russians ffs
Even if they don’t got in irl just make one up
tepid breach
Within 10 feet I'm the quickest mother fucker you've ever not seen
cringefest
scenic tartan
Add a hovering jet for the Russians ffs
wont matter nobody picks jet cause TV missile kills all the ground vehicles and they have nothing to do
plus theres only one attack slot so why ever pick jet?
unkempt tartan
wont matter nobody picks jet cause TV missile kills all the ground vehicles and ...
I always pick jet 💀
But I’m not a try hard I just try to have fun
scenic tartan
its boring AF cause jets cant fight infantry
unkempt tartan
Well the US one can
scenic tartan
so maybe you go after a transport but it'll fuck you over
double miniguns and 50mm will kill you fast
unkempt tartan
so maybe you go after a transport but it'll fuck you over
Yah hover for too long and you’re dead meat
scenic tartan
This video breaks down the vehicle balance issues in a really good way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO52fDIK-gM