battlefield-2042

[obsidian elk]

I don't even know what to say

[low timber]

At least the on stealth heli vs stealth heli the one who has more AA gear wins, that’s how I’ve won against a 2 man stealth heli with AGMs and 30mm by going against them with a stealth heli with MGs and AA missiles.

[uncut bay]

they really need a trophy system for tanks, crazy that it's not a priority

[obsidian elk]

I have no idea how to respond to that claim

[slim quiver]

I’ve killed multiple tanks in smoke

[low timber]

Lis makes it even easier to kill tanks in smoke

[hidden sand]

What's their counters then my dude?

[uncut bay]

it does nothing, you can just shoot into the smoke and you'll hit most of the time. It does nothing to stop rockets

[obsidian elk]

I'm referring to Suika's claim, not the smoke thing @slim quiver

[slim quiver]

Yeah I know

[obsidian elk]

[next onyx]

Armour hunter is powerful though I wouldn't mind if it thermal smoke made them invisible to it.

So the entire cloud would be a red mist.

[low timber]

But her Tv missiles just make her way too vulnerable to use near the action

[hidden sand]

Instead of mocking my claim maybe try explaining what you feel their counters are 👍

[obsidian elk]

I'm not mocking you. I'm just dumbfounded

I don't mean any offense

Also, I don't want to talk about it

[next onyx]

Easy to control.

[obsidian elk]

I'm just legitimately surprised someone actually seriously claims tanks have no counter

[next onyx]

Because they really don't.

[hidden sand]

They don't.

[obsidian elk]

Especially after the newest patch

[slim quiver]

I’ve never really noticed a counter

[next onyx]

You have thermal smoke for lock ons but you're an easy kill to helicopters and jets making another pass.

[low timber]

I just need 127 pass points by XP and the rest weeklies (if they all give 49 minimum) and I would hit Tier 100.

[hidden sand]

The newest patch made the lack of counters even worse (Lis who can track you behind cover), what...?

[next onyx]

Being hit means you'll be bait for random liz rockets in the area.

Bring back APS and buff thermal smoke to disorientate 3D spots.

[low timber]

I’m tier 38 and 3/10.

[next onyx]

I think I'm tier 40 or something.

I've just sorta haven't been feeling it.

[obsidian elk]

Wait a minute...

[shell ermine]

Tanks have been made of paper for all of 2042. It has only been getting worse

[low timber]

So you would need ~107 ish points Way

[shell ermine]

Armor gameplay is total trash in 2042

[uncut bay]

i'm around 40 as well. Takes too long to rank up normally so i don't bother outside of challenges

[obsidian elk]

You guys are talking about tank countermeasures

[hidden sand]

Being able to run AP and HE should be a thing too like in BFV. Because currently if you run HE and encounter a tank, it's bye-bye. Which forces you to use MPAT, but then you can't deal with infantry lol.

[obsidian elk]

Yes I agree, tanks have almost no countermeasures

[low timber]

Yup, looks like my XP requirement just went to 7 000 per one point.

[obsidian elk]

What I was saying is that tanks have a ton of things that counter them

Not that they have plenty of countermeasures

[hidden sand]

Actually no, I take that back. You'd need BFVs tank dmg model for that to work properly.

[low timber]

Imagine playing 2042 VS BF3 after they add the A-10/Frogfoot rip 2042 tanks.

[next onyx]

If the main shells of tank were decent that'd be it to make them well, Decent.

I heard how fucked the attack jets were in bf3.

[obsidian elk]

[next onyx]

I thought they were more powerful in a way because they were slower and were able to get more damage.

[low timber]

Explosive minigun and rocket pods? Nah not at all

[shell ermine]

Tanks need both AP and HE, overall more health (should take 4 C5 to kill, so a random Sundance just can't fly in and delete a tank), reactive armor, and thermal smoke needs to do more

[next onyx]

But I've heard that their main gun was twice as powerful in comparison to the f/18.

[slim quiver]

I miss BFV tanks and I don’t even use vehicles ever

[hidden sand]

Sundance being able to hover over a tank and deny them completely is ridiculous

[slim quiver]

Just the idea of bouncing

[next onyx]

I don't mind the c5 part too much.

Sundance can always throw their grenades anyways.

[hidden sand]

Sundance shouldn't be able to run C5, like how Lis can't run the M5.

[low timber]

The stealth jets main guns didn’t damage tanks at all if I remember correctly

[slim quiver]

Sundance shouldn’t be able to stay in the air forever but for some reason ofc they make it so you can literally lift vertically in the air

[shell ermine]

She is too powerful as is

[low timber]

Oh yeah way, at long last I got Irish to T2

[obsidian elk]

I agree that tanks shouldn't be insanely vulnerable to a single fucking infantry unit with C5.

At the same time, it takes considerable stealth and positioning to reach a tank with C5 (unless you're Sundance)

So, being able to reward that maneuver is extremely important

Best case solution, in my opinion:

---

Make it so that, if the engine or treads are disabled, the tank doesn't just slow down - it is completely immobile. Therefore, a sneaky infantry with C5 will be able to completely disable, but not destroy, a tank. This will make it extremely vulnerable.

[hidden sand]

BFV did it so right. I still wish they added a tank superiority mode.

[low timber]

Yesterday, now need 1 057 blocks to get him to T1.

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I should of asked.

[obsidian elk]

I agree that sundance shouldn't be able to lift. Flying horizontally is okay with me, and so is going down, but she shouldn't be able to gain altitude

[slim quiver]

Tanks fighting tanks is what it should be

[shell ermine]

Buy him a GameCube memory card

[next onyx]

How's that Irish grind going, Obviously it's going well.

[low timber]

Then Lis needs 260 vehicle destroys

[hidden sand]

"it takes considerable stealth and positioning to reach a tank with c5"
It doesn't though, because of how bad the level design often is. Tanks are usually very easy to get to with Sundance, and require next to no thought.

[low timber]

Exposed breakthrough is a grenade galore.

[obsidian elk]

And I love it.

[next onyx]

Battlefield tanks have always been good in the way that you can specialise them for anti armour, But you're still not cucked cause your main cannon isn't it.

[low timber]

Just pitch it down near a choke point and points just come in.

[next onyx]

The main cannon of your tank should at the very least have decent killing power.

[hidden sand]

The MPAT is useless for dealing with infantry. However the HEAT is absolutely busted.

[next onyx]

In bf5 we had the regular cannons, Then we had howitsers when you REALLY wanted to kill infantry.

[low timber]

But still some odd grenade keeps landing near the APS and kills all teammates.

[next onyx]

Or the 20MM.

Howitser is a bit anti all but the drop and reload was shit.

[low timber]

And ofc the M5CG

[next onyx]

20MM just can't penetrate armour.

[slim quiver]

Yes because gaining altitude is when they can stay in air forever

[hidden sand]

In that last section of breakthrough on Exposure, attackers often bunch up in front of the building where the containers are. I drove up there, blasted 2 HEAT rounds, 8 kills.

[shell ermine]

The Shermans being able to run standard and AP shells made them a fierce match for Tigers

[low timber]

The smoke shell was fun

Kills enemies and overs friendlies in a single shot

[hidden sand]

The HEAT is really useful but Tanks are so bad as it is you still can't push objectives.

[shell ermine]

Provence, race around the map in a Sherman and come up on the rear of a Tiger. Guaranteed kill

[next onyx]

Eh.

It was just a medium tank against a heavy. It was no different than a valentine fighting a tiger.

[sweet barn]

i dont understand how they managed the game to look worse than 4 previous titles while also having worse performance

[obsidian elk]

It will also screw you if you're against another tank.

The main reason why I don't run HEAT even though I want to is because the team relies on your tank to be able to both withstand and confront the enemy tank.

[shell ermine]

It was definitely cooler.

[obsidian elk]

You can only do that with MPAT

[next onyx]

You can get the same result flanking a tiger in a Panzer IV, Vallie mkVIII or Sherman.

[obsidian elk]

Not with HEAT

[hidden sand]

Yup. The equipment balance is really bad.

[next onyx]

Infact the Sherman is worse at a range compared to the P IV

Cause that thing has range.

Than the sherman with its heat just go... bop.

[obsidian elk]

It's better with TOW missiles though

Hope there aren't any propeller-hat spinning kids inside of your tank so you can switch to the TOW in your 2nd seat

while your HEAT is reloading

and you can 1v1 a tank with MPAT

but it's not easy

If you're using HEAT you absolutely need TOW missiles in your gunner seat

[hidden sand]

Actually I've consistently gotten people who can use the TOW effectively this past week. I was surprised lol.

[next onyx]

Tow's on AT Helis on bf4 was amazing.

Just seeing these people snipe other AT helis with it was a sight for sure.

[hidden sand]

I wonder if that bug where the turret rotation of the driver effects the tow is still around.

I can't figure out why people think the AT Helis in BF4 are op lol

[obsidian elk]

I think I turned off the setting that causes vehicle movement to affect turret aim, I really hope I did

can't play to test it rn

[hidden sand]

I've been using them lately and tbh it's not easy at all. You get taken out so quickly.

Rocket pods quickly run out too if you're aim is lackluster. There's a decent skill ceiling on them.

[chilly jacinth]

its more that the map design really compliment the helis

[hidden sand]

Tanks in BF4 are actually difficult to use though, because they share that same problem 2042 has where the AP rounds are the only effective round in them.

[chilly jacinth]

theres so much stuff to hide behind

[next onyx]

Because the gunner acn 3 to 4 hit people at the top of the map with thermal visio with no glow... low glow.

[hidden sand]

Shouldn't there be though? How else would they counter lock ons?

[next onyx]

You know, No glow drop off.

Cover is fine but the problem was that it was too easy to sit behind places where infantry had no access to.

[hidden sand]

Ah that is OP. I was mainly thinking about the Driver position so I forgot about that.

[next onyx]

Yeah it's the gunner that gets the kills.

The AT choppers should be a close range support kind of craft. Not an orbit farming bomber.

[hidden sand]

Tbh, thermal vision shouldn't have been in BF4.

[next onyx]

Thermal isn't a problem on infantry.

It's a problem on vehicles.

[hidden sand]

Yep.

The littlebird was balanced pretty much perfectly in BF4 though. Man I wish the nightbird shared it's design.

[obsidian elk]

I like vision modes. They're visually appealing to me and feel cool to use. I would love thermal vision in this game. The rainbow one and the black/white one are both really cool to me.

Balancing could just limit the range in which it displays. Also don't allow it to see through walls; that can be left for Splinter Cell.

And Paik already has an ability for that anyway

[hidden sand]

The BF3 Portal Littlebird is exactly how they should balance the 2042 one. It's so much better.

[obsidian elk]

Just the question would be how you'd equip it. Maybe the gadget slot? But changing vision modes wouldn't be enough of a justification for a gadget slot tbh

Maybe for snipers

but they want ammo/insertion beacons

Snipers wouldn't even use it either if it had a range limitation

Oh well. Fun to speculate. I like thermals

[dense hound]

it's not possible to chance of squad in this game ?

[chilly jacinth]

you can

[dense hound]

I didn't figured out how then

[obsidian elk]

How?

I didn't know you can change squads

Is it in the "squad and players" menu?

[dense hound]

I was there

but I didn't find how

[solid imp]

You have to be on the deploy screen dead for it to work, you can't be spawned. Right-click your own name in the squad/players menu

[obsidian elk]

Oh

Neat

I would probably have never known this if someone didn't tell me

[dense hound]

ok thanks

[chilly jacinth]

pretty dang sure you can do it while alive too

[obsidian elk]

It would be nice if they made that a more obvious feature

[dense hound]

at this point I just want bf 3/4 remasted

[obsidian elk]

You crossed it out so now I'm curious if there's a difference between being dead and being in the deploy screen.

If you're in the deploy screen, you're still dead, your body just isn't on the map anymore

Is that so?

[solid imp]

lol just making it as clear as possible.. the word "dead" is succinct and 100% to the point

[obsidian elk]

I see.

[hidden sand]

Squad management doesn't exist which is a huge shame, but ah well.

[solid imp]

It is indeed a crap shoot when you change squads this way

[obsidian elk]

I guess the reason why they don't make it obvious,

is because there's not much of a reason to change squads anyway.

What are you going to do?

Switch to a squad that listens when you ask for heals or ammo?

[hidden sand]

Squads in this are essentially SWBF2 squads, meaningless.

[obsidian elk]

If you want people like that, you need to recruit online. Swapping squads won't help you find team-players.

So, I understand why the feature isn't an obvious one.

[hidden sand]

I would generally have a cohesive squad going in BFV because of how well they icentivized squad and teamplay, but I think in my entire time playing 2042 it's only happened once.

[next onyx]

I'm probably too use with how squads in bf5 worked.

Since that way they had some meaning.

[obsidian elk]

I found one guy that listens to my pings, and also uses his own pings

We use the "follow me" and the "copy that" pings

I enjoy hearing the voice lines

and the teamwork is satisfying

Team players are out there

it's just not easy to find them in-game

[next onyx]

Oh yeah if you double tab a danger ping your character will acknowledge.

[obsidian elk]

You're better off recruiting online

[obsidian elk]

Yeah I like that too

I love how many voice lines there are

and for so many different situations too

all contextual

Like the direction of getting hit in a vehicle

or slamming into something offroad

[hidden sand]

Nah I think it's better off that DICE reintroduces the incentives they had in BFV for squad and teamplay

[obsidian elk]

I feel like people don't appreciate it enough

[hidden sand]

But that's very unlikely.

[obsidian elk]

I agree with more incentives

I was just making my point in regards to the current state of the game

In the current state of the game you're better off recruiting online for team players

I did find that one dude in game, which was a treat

[slim quiver]

I thought they’d replace the voice lines

Now it’s just silent

[obsidian elk]

It was silent for me on day one when I bought the game last week

But I guess it was a bug or something

[hidden sand]

Silence is much better imo.

[obsidian elk]

The operators aren't silent to me anymore

Oh wait you're talking about the postgame screen

[midnight whale]

It’s probably just bugged

[hidden sand]

I just wish it was a top squad thing and not best players.

[obsidian elk]

I think it's a good thing they removed the cringe one-liners in the postgame

If they weren't cringe, they probably could have stayed

[midnight whale]

Range while scan

[lilac dust]

So how did ya'll get the 3 melee kills? Any pro strats?

[uncut bay]

dozer

[slim quiver]

They used to say lines at the end but that’s fine now

[obsidian elk]

It's actually easier than you think

Any decent flank will net you takedowns

[slim quiver]

It didn’t really bother me that they were there

[lilac dust]

Shit didn't even think about dozer

[uncut bay]

yeah it's pretty easy, most people panic when they see a shield running at them

[hidden sand]

Even having a "Top Squad" showcase incentivizes doing better as squads lol. All of those little things can have weight on things.

[obsidian elk]

You just have to actually close in, stealthily too, and not elect to fire immediately upon seeing them

[slim quiver]

My biggest issue with the voice lines is I wanted National tongue

I didn’t want a bunch of people speaking English

Would have been cooler to have all their lines be in native tongue

[obsidian elk]

Incoming Doodlebob operator going NE HOY MINOY

[slim quiver]

Lmaooo

I just think it would have been really cool

[obsidian elk]

Yeah it would have been interesting. I enjoy understanding what they say though.

[hidden sand]

I was hoping Paik and Falck would speak their native tongue but alas here we are lol

[next onyx]

Easy in easy out.

[obsidian elk]

And I think the endgame voice lines would have been kept if the community didn't nigh-unanimously agree that they were extremely cringe.

[hidden sand]

Lets make the impossible, possible

[slim quiver]

Paik will soon get something to help her allergic reaction

[next onyx]

It would have been cool if in the heat, Falck spoke german.

[obsidian elk]

It should've just been

[slim quiver]

GOD

[next onyx]

Under suppression.

[obsidian elk]

"Well done"

"Mission accomplished"

"Good job"

[slim quiver]

I HATE THAT

[obsidian elk]

etc.

[next onyx]

You know those lines.

Haha was I too serious?

[hidden sand]

Paik yelling EWW is hilarious though lol

[next onyx]

I can't remember her third line.

[uncut bay]

i'm not overconfident

[next onyx]

It's weird seeing them not say anything.

You know what, I'm just as shocked as you.

[obsidian elk]

As someone who didn't play at launch, it didn't feel weird to me at all.

It felt very apropos actually

You're probably just used to them talking

[uncut bay]

it felt weird but much better to me

[hidden sand]

Ooh, sorry, I'm just as shocked as you

[dull lily]

Just realised, in breakthrough you can get ~125 syrette heals give or take 10-20

[next onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697337987893166121/956925762097803345/Screenshot_4.png

I LOVE this pose.

[obsidian elk]

I think in their latest vlog they said they're reworking some of the voiceovers

[next onyx]

Yeah they are.

[dull lily]

18 wow!

[lilac dust]

It's the rush hour 1 victory pose

[obsidian elk]

I'm looking forward to what they do with Mackay because Mackay's voice direction definitely feels like it came straight out of a sitcom

Which was probably intentional

[next onyx]

P90 too!

Which by the way I would love a p90 in all out warfare.

Actually one of the cooler modern guns.

[uncut bay]

p100

i'd like to see it too

[obsidian elk]

Would be funnier if they called it p900

Add an extra 0 and make it look futuristic

[hidden sand]

The P90 is a hipfire machine

[low timber]

It looks futuristic already thought, only need the 2042 picatinny rail

[next onyx]

Seriously.

That may as well be.

With the vector and the p90 I wonder how cool it would be if there were a variant fit with 5.56.

Made to be more of an assault rifle.

[low timber]

The only 2042 gun without a futuristic picatinny rail is the ghostmaker R10

[hidden sand]

I hope they keep the hipfire capabilties if they move it over. It's so much fun that way.

[next onyx]

BAHAH I read that the wrong way.

[slim quiver]

Imagine what we could have had

[low timber]

And some guns have a modern picatinny on top of the futuristic picatinny to give more height for the sight, fusion Holo on the Sfar is one

[next onyx]

There's an image I posted of the SCAR without its grenade launcher.

You know as much as people hate them.

They're actually the best thing for utility in this game.

I just wish GL smoke counted towards the smoke badge.

[low timber]

Speaking of the hip fire, the laser hip fire bonus feel so, tiny. And the grip gives even less hipfire bonus and bigger negative

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I should be using smoke more as I'm using falck now.

Which grip? The stubby grip?

[solid imp]

Stubby grip on smoke grenade.. imagine.

[low timber]

Smoke nade and smoke launcher and smoke Sfar, they call you The smoke man

[obsidian elk]

I thought the grenade launchers sucked.

But as I played more with the HE, and got acquainted to its damage radius, it actually feels pretty good

[low timber]

Rattlesnake

[obsidian elk]

and it's useful for clapping people in cover

[next onyx]

They suck?

Oh no.

They're very good.

[low timber]

Stubby is the exact opposite of the rattlesnake

[slim quiver]

Falck

[next onyx]

HE is brilliant for people.

[obsidian elk]

Also the underbarrel smoke launcher is really good, it's just not something you would have equipped by default, it's something you'd open the menu to swap to when you need it.

[next onyx]

AP does well against armour.

[obsidian elk]

Yeah I elaborated on that.

[next onyx]

Smoke is for cover and doesn't dissipate after a single second.

C5 plus smoke GL hmm.

[low timber]

Incendiary is great for burning people trough thin walls/cover

[obsidian elk]

The Smoke Launcher gadget is also really good

I think it fires multiple pods of smoke

instead of just one

People don't use it enough

it's so good for pushing in Breakthrough

[next onyx]

Marse you ever seen a flying Boris?

[dull lily]

it fires one that splits into 3

[low timber]

I’ll be using the smoke launcher after I’ve T1’d the BSV-M, can’t run it without an ammo box

[obsidian elk]

Yeah it's really good

[sweet barn]

see smoke = nade smoke = smoke useless

[next onyx]

Yeah I prefer the SCAR over the VSS.

[obsidian elk]

You won't need ammo box anymore after unlocking the High Power Extended

[next onyx]

Short barrel makes it busted.

No you will still need an ammo box.

It runs dry very easily.

[low timber]

Yes I do, 3 mags is not enough

[obsidian elk]

Doesn't HPE increase ammo supply as well as the capacity?

[low timber]

With extended you carry 63 rounds

[obsidian elk]

I mean, I never had issues with the AK24's ammo supply after I got the High Power Extended, but the High Power Standard really sucked with only 3 mags

[low timber]

With stock you carry… 55?

Or 44

The ghostmaker R10 pretty much forces you to play Anghel.

As you only get 2 bolts per ammo box resupply

While Anghel pouch gives 10

Also why is the ghostmaker badge a tri force from The Legend of Zelda?

[next onyx]

Please give me beepy bolts.

[low timber]

The ones from BF3 Xbow?

In fact,
Tier S BF3 Xbow
Tier B Ghostmaker R10
Tier C Phantom Bow

[hidden sand]

I just hope they don't nerf the scar. It's so much fun to use.

[low timber]

Oh they will

[lilac dust]

Crossbow acquired!

[slim quiver]

They will

Because it kills in 3 hits and it has a drum mag

[next onyx]

It kills in 4 hits.

[lilac dust]

Well shit. What attachments should I use for the scar? I need to take advantage of this meta

[next onyx]

Alright logan.

Lemme give you what I use.

Hang on.

Fusion holo, Arcom muzzle brake/w Warhawk compensator and 6ku suppressor as back up, HE 40MM/w AP 40MM and Smoke 40MM as back up with High calibre drum, High calibre mag and standard issue mag.

[low timber]

LOL killed an enemy, they dropped their frag, i got a frag kill

[next onyx]

@low timber Look a Boris.

[lilac dust]

Noted. TY. Will start levelling it up asap

[slim quiver]

Well if you get a headshot it will def kill in 3

[next onyx]

I love how Grenades work.

Yeah of course but that's just that.

I don't think it's wholly imbalanced.

It's the best ranged rifle but it's not overbearing cause it suffers up close.

Not as much as it used to but it's basically what the STG 44 wanted to be.

BAHAHA Its TTK is identical to Vanguard's STG 44. A good middling rifle.

Stock STG.

[next onyx]

So reliterate, It's what the STG 44 from bf5 wanted to be.

[slim quiver]

STG in cod is broken

Just like the MP40

As well as the Whitley and Bar

[hidden sand]

Scar is hands down the most satisfying to use rn imo

[slim quiver]

It’s funny how the Whitley statistically even after nerf sees the most in ranked play

[hidden sand]

The m5a3 right behind it

[next onyx]

M5a3 with short barrel subsonic is pretty fun.

I should check out some TTK's with it.

[slim quiver]

The scar feels like what I wanted the AK to be and I hate the m5 because 90% of the people that use it basically use it as an SMG

[next onyx]

The m5 struggles outside of that niche.

And even so you may as well use the Vector.

[chilly jacinth]

its only viable as an smg

[next onyx]

Which offers more mobility, Ammo.

[chilly jacinth]

its absolute cheeks otherwise

[weary osprey]

Hey

[hidden sand]

Wait does it? I have a pretty easy time taking out long range enemies with it

[slim quiver]

Maybe they should make the m5 viable as an AR

because that’s what it is

[next onyx]

Short barrel is the only thing that makes it viable since without it, It has a 400 MS ttk.

And in comparison the SCAR has a 300 MS TTK until 50m.

[sage ingot]

Hello there, I have a problem with the game, it wont launch after the last update

[next onyx]

They gave it some range with standard at least.

Weird, Have you repaired your game?

[slim quiver]

What they should do then is screw with the recoil on the scar

[sage ingot]

Verified cache, updated the drivers

[hidden sand]

Huh maybe I'm just used to bf1s longer ttk that the m5 at longer ranges doesnt feel bad to me lol

[slim quiver]

That way the m5 may be 1 more shot but it’s more accurate

[hidden sand]

Does EasyAntiCheat bring up an Error?

[chilly jacinth]

a vector can outgun you easily at range

[slim quiver]

Because I definitely don’t want the M5 just being viable by being an SMG. It’s absolutely annoying

[next onyx]

Weird.

[sage ingot]

No, it loads all the way to the end ant then it closes and steam goes back to "Play" instead of the "Playing" thing when you start the game

[next onyx]

Why screw the recoil on the SCAR if it's built to be a ranged gun.

It's not even that overbearing.

[slim quiver]

Why screw the standard on the M5 if it’s built to be an AR

yet it’s only viable as a SMG

[solid imp]

That happens to me with rocket league in steam almost every single time I launch it but usually launching a second time loads it correctly.. never figured out how to fix it and it never gets stuck how you describe 😦

[next onyx]

Short barrel plus standard is currently the best way to play the game, You shouldn't need to use that to make a gun good though I'll agree.

[sage ingot]

I have launched it... 10 times at least

[slim quiver]

They have to figure out a way to make it viable comparatively against other AR’s

[next onyx]

Ak24 does pretty alright despite it being overshadowed by both.

[slim quiver]

As it stands the M5 might as well we placed in the SMG section

Because that’s all people use it like

[solid imp]

Only thing I haven't tried is fully uninstalling Steam itself and reinstalling

[sage ingot]

I still believe in AK supremacy

[next onyx]

That thing was a lot of fun when they made it decent.

It's weird seeing people run it.

[slim quiver]

AK has more recoil than the scar somehow

[next onyx]

Now.

[slim quiver]

It jumps around randomly

[next onyx]

I could go test out patterns.

[slim quiver]

I’ve never had trouble aiming the scar at all

[sweet barn]

do you peeps have minimap zoomed out all the way?

[slim quiver]

But the Ak ADS is weird

[next onyx]

Both guns are pretty easy to control honestly.

[hidden sand]

Try this.
Inside of your the games location, go inside of the EasyAntiCheat folder. Inside of there, you'll see "EasyAntiCheat_SetUp" open that up, and click repair game. Hope it works, It's fixed it for me when I've been unable to load the game up.

[next onyx]

Uhhh my minimap is on 50M.

But I wish I could change the size of it.

[sage ingot]

I'll try

[slim quiver]

All the guns are easy to control

[next onyx]

Warhawk compensator make the guns absolute monsters.

I don't like the accuracy loss but when you need it. It really makes the difference.

My mates are running the wrapped suppressor on their AK's and somehow it just works.

Speaking about suppressors, 6kU on the SCAR is weird.

It feels like it should be weaker (And it's good that it isn't with it on)

So when you kill a guy it's "Oh yeah they're dead!"

[mental delta]

Putting suppressors on LMGs is the real weirdness

[low timber]

5 fucking medic on my body and none did shit.

[next onyx]

I'm just not used to seeing this black bulge protruding off my gun's barrel.

[sage ingot]

Welcome to battlefield

[mental delta]

[next onyx]

My friend unironically uses the wrapped on the LCMG.

[mental delta]

He shouldn't be allowed to play

[slim quiver]

I hate the LMGs

They’re oddly reliable

And they randomly just kill me

[next onyx]

He's actually really good with the LCMG.

I just can't get the damn thing to work.

The FSR just screws my aim.

At that point I'm better off with the SCAR.

Or in a similar circumstance, The m5a3.

[mental delta]

LMGs are good in all BF games except this one

There are only two, poorly designed and absolutely unbalanced

I miss BF4 LMG or V ones

[sage ingot]

Didn't worked

[hazy sun]

Lmgs are pretty good though

[next onyx]

Bf5 LMG's were good despite being sort of a departure.

[hidden sand]

The LCMG is really really good if you can control it right. The PKP nerf was kinda disappointing though.

[sage ingot]

So, now Easy anticheat loads, when it closes to open the game, it pops up again, loads again, except this time it closes and nothing happens

[next onyx]

They were made to be more higher capacity assault rifles with more accuracy.

And instead have worse handling.

[hidden sand]

Sorry to hear. Hope you can get it settled soon. Might need to reinstall the game.

[next onyx]

Probably my favourite version of them.

[mental delta]

In all BF games but not this one, I used to play support a lot in all BF games and LMGs in 2042 suck, the bipod doesn't even work correctly and the bugs hasn't been fixed yet

[arctic grove]

I'll revive you

[mental delta]

BFV support weapons are really good yeah

[sage ingot]

I'll try that then, it just sucks because it was working perfectly until the S1 patch, installed it but never played, even tho I had the early thing, and now I got time to and this happens

[next onyx]

Fg42, Bren, BAR M1918A2 best guns of support.

[mental delta]

In BF2042 I would have loved to see a M27IAR but it seems like I am not getting it though

[tacit sphinx]

i don't really know what you mean by the bipod not working correctly because it definitely does

to confirm, you realise you have to deploy it on weapons where it's an optional attachment?

[mental delta]

The browning is really good too when you know how to play it

[next onyx]

MMG's were alright.

I mostly stuck to LMG's.

[hidden sand]

The barrel replacement animation for the MG42 in BFV was fucking awesome. Miss it.

[mental delta]

For you maybe, not for me, it doesn't deploy properly after a single use and I have to change under-barrel attachment and then put it back on my weapon to make it work

[tacit sphinx]

the lcmg is a very good 'assault lmg', the pkp definitely fills more of a bfv mmg role where it benefits significantly from using it with the bipod

[hazy sun]

You press x(on PC) and it deploys/undeploys, I don't get the confusion

[tacit sphinx]

this really sounds like you just not realising how the attachment works, it doesn't automatically deploy on surfaces like bfv, you have to press the button to open/close it

[next onyx]

Oh it's not a bf5 bipod?

[hidden sand]

https://youtu.be/ExtFFB0-nNk

[mental delta]

That's the problem it doesn't for me, I can deploy once on the ground but then if I get up and try to redeploy it by laying on the ground I can't, I have to go to plus system, change attachment and then put the bipod again to redeploy it

[hidden sand]

Oskar Wetterbrandt is such a good animator.

[mental delta]

To make it simple I can't deploy it more than once

I have to use plus system to redeploy it each time

[mental delta]

Look at my answer

[low timber]

2042 bipods are like the BFV bipods but on the ones that doesn’t have one as the only uption (pkp, dxr, ntw) need to activate it same way as laser, flashlight, grenade launcher or masterkey

It has like a on/off switch

[tacit sphinx]

yeah you have to press the button (down on dpad for me, i think just whatever it is to switch to underbarrel launchers and stuff) to open/close it

[tame cobalt]

Are yall gonna drop 2042 for mw2 or play both or just play 2042 or play neither

[low timber]

Which is worthless and you never even know is it on or off

[next onyx]

Ugh.

That's just sad.

[tacit sphinx]

it's kinda nice because one thing that did happen in bfv with some guns was strafing near a wall and the bipod trying to stick to the wall which jolted your aim

[next onyx]

"why does this gun have no recoil now?"

[hazy sun]

Probably play the campaign, a couple of rounds of mp, and then uninstall cod

[tacit sphinx]

other than just... looking at the bipod

[low timber]

Should be always on, like if you have it then use it when possible, there is no upside to turn it off at all

[next onyx]

"Oh yeah, Bipod"

[tame cobalt]

Nice

[tacit sphinx]

like you can just run around with it active anyway

[next onyx]

Oh yeah at least laser sights are on by default.

Now.

[mental delta]

I am not getting MW2 it just looks awful

[next onyx]

Oh this rum is getting too much I'm done for the night.

[hazy sun]

Just looks like every cod, as usual.

[uncut bay]

both, but battlefield far less. Mainly just because i've got free battle passes

[tacit sphinx]

there's also the visual indicator of the gun's position when you are in a position where the bipod might deploy, although a HUD indicator wouldn't necessarily be unwelcome in the bottom right

[mental delta]

There are good ones, this one just looked designed for cosmetics

[sweet barn]

lol thats some ignorant bs saying it looks like every cod / looks awful

[next onyx]

"No you need to understand that it's a new modern warfare game meaning that is truly pushes the boundries!

[mental delta]

They released their first cosmetic pack like a few hours after the trailer

[next onyx]

Ugh I unironically used a wojack.

[uncut bay]

pre order bonuses are nothing new lol

[next onyx]

What have I done.

[low timber]

Yeah, if grenade launcher can have its icon, why cant other toggleable under barrel options?

[hazy sun]

The boundaries of bleeding edge codness

[mental delta]

I mean only a few hours after the trailer, the game doesn't even have a date, neither the beta

[hidden sand]

What do you want from COD in that case?

[uncut bay]

the game does have a date

[lilac dust]

Holy shit .... I just threw a frag grenade in someone's face.... they shot the grenade and it killed them 😳

[hidden sand]

What does it need to innovate on?

[next onyx]

OH I should show you something then logan.

[mental delta]

Now it has yes sorry

[uncut bay]

and yeah, most trailers come out and advertise their pre order bonuses at the end

[next onyx]

I threw a c5 at an irish's face.

[low timber]

I died once to my own grenade as a enemy scatter nade detonated mine in my face

[uncut bay]

i mean cod ghosts had pre order bonuses lol idk why people are taking an issue with it now

[mental delta]

COD to do it more than other games to me, I don't remember we could see cosmetics packs for 2042 only a few hours after trailer

But I can be wrong

[lilac dust]

Jesus lol

[next onyx]

It's just funny when it happens heh.

[tacit sphinx]

it'd be nice but i don't think it's exactly gamechanging without it, the grenade launcher you kinda want to know if you're going to fire a bullet or a destructive device. overall the bipods are fine, at most it's just like... some very minor qol stuff

[next onyx]

I don't think that dude was very happy after that haha.

[slim quiver]

People get more mad about it

[uncut bay]

i mean what does it even matter

[next onyx]

WHAT is that scream.

Wtf.

[grizzled whale]

yeah idk

might have hi a seagull

[mental delta]

Well selling cosmetics before showing actual gameplay of MP is a hit weird

Considering the game will probably end up like MW2019

A cosmetic paradise with a terrible launcher that doesn't even let you play a game you paid 70 bucks lol

[uncut bay]

not really any different to allowing pre orders the second a reveal trailer comes out

and idk what issues you had with the previous game, worked fine for me

[tacit sphinx]

i'm pretty sure all the gold/ultimate bundles were shown off fairly soon if not immediately for 2042, a good amount of people know they're going to end up getting the game anyway and preorder basically the moment it's available so it's best to show what they can get

[slim quiver]

Doubtful

This game looks like it’s going to be anything but a cosmetic paradise

[mental delta]

I would say the total opposite

[tacit sphinx]

we didn't even know one of the preorder bonuses for 2042 for a bit (because it was a skin for irish who hand't been announced yet)

[slim quiver]

First 8 months of MW19 release we probably had over 30 bundles. First 8 months of 2042 we have 2 bundles with 1 operator skin and 1 camo skin in them

[mental delta]

Narcos shit everywhere and weird ghost faces in all corners

[next onyx]

We didn't even know what the other two skins were either Dr.

The Angel and Rao skin.

But ye.

[mental delta]

Maybe, however I don't think I would be influenced by cosmetics to preorder a game

[slim quiver]

MW2 is going to be a cosmetic paradise thank god

[next onyx]

We all thought hey this is a Casper skin and whoever the fuck that belongs to.

[uncut bay]

i look forward to the cosmetics in mw22, some of the ones in mw19 were super cool

[tacit sphinx]

they weren't explicitly detailed but we saw them, rao was pretty obvious and people just assumed casper (because angel seems to get skins that would work well for casper as well lol)

[sonic swallow]

are servers dead on ps5 cus i cant get into any

[slim quiver]

Cosmetics are a huge part of Multiplayer shooters now so yes it’s a big preorder drag

[tacit sphinx]

plenty of people are though

[ruby atlas]

What's y'all's opinion on the new stealth helicopter?

[mental delta]

You said the opposite 1 minute ago ?

[uncut bay]

needs nerf

[slim quiver]

To be fair they should have labeled who they skins were for after all the specialists were released

[mental delta]

They shouldn't

[slim quiver]

I was talking about 2042

[ruby atlas]

Why?

[hardy oak]

hey guys new to this any one looking for a decent bf2042 player, 37 casual gamer thanks

[slim quiver]

2042 won’t be a cosmetic paradise

MW2 will because it’s cod

[mental delta]

Ho ok

[uncut bay]

cannons are too strong and don't overheat, and bombs are too strong. If it were up to me i'd have the bombs removed completely

[slim quiver]

Agreed

[next onyx]

We really have no idea what direction the cosmetics will go really. I kinda like these cosmetics since they're fun but no so outlandish.

[mental delta]

That's what I meant from the beginning when I said the game would be a cosmetic paradise, I was talking about MW2

[slim quiver]

Oh okay

I mean yeah ofc because it’s cod

[next onyx]

Rao's skin looks like some fucking terminator milsim skin and I actually kinda like that?

[slim quiver]

But I like that about cod. They do so much work on cosmetics there is always fucking something new and fresh

[mental delta]

I am waiting for them to fuck up the launcher because of WZ2 arrival

[ruby atlas]

Bombs make countering overpowered vehicles like the SH extremely rewarding once you get skilled with it.
That means
Skilled pilots -> Strong Vehicle and progression
And it gets completely countered by the scout helicopter

[uncut bay]

they shouldn't be overpowered in the first place, that's a horrible argument

[hardy oak]

hey guys new to this, any one looking for a decent bf2042 player, 37 casual gamer thanks

[next onyx]

Issue with the bombs is how large their blast radius is.

[ruby atlas]

It has counterplay, that's the point

[slim quiver]

Nothing should be overpowered

[next onyx]

The bombs are ALRIGHT but with how far they can reach on the other side of the room is fair?

[ruby atlas]

Yeah that's right

[edgy oriole]

Evil dead the game x 2042 when

[mental delta]

I was worried it would get weird like COD but for the moment I really appreciate the ton of BF2042 cosmetics, not too far, I hope it stays this way

[slim quiver]

Nobody uses things the way they’re supposed to. They simply just use everything to farm infantry. Nobody is using shit to counter vehicles

[ruby atlas]

Anti airs

[uncut bay]

stealth mode lol

[ruby atlas]

Scout helicopter

[slim quiver]

People use m5 reoiless rockets to kill infantry instead of vehicles all the time as well

Everything made to counter vehicles people are using against infantry

I see Lis rockets being fired at infantry all the freaking time

[uncut bay]

you want to leave it up to another heli player to counter the stealth heli? That's a joke

[ruby atlas]

That's their business

[slim quiver]

Here’s what should happen

Nerf weapons meant to damage vehicles against infantry so they can’t spam it anymore

[mental delta]

I don't any choices when I am using parachute and there's a bunch of weirdos firing in me from everywhere

[ruby atlas]

It literally got nerfed

[slim quiver]

No more idiots sitting the way back firing anti vehicle shit to kill infantry with ease

[next onyx]

I was nowhere close to where the bombs should have gotten me.

[solid imp]

Sad but true. Instead of getting better with it to actually hit a heli they just get lazy and shoot at infantry. The G84 should be a fantastic counter balance to the SH.
But also the G84 isn't a one hit on infantry unless it's a headshot. It is nerfed already against infantry. The M5 doesn't do much splash unless a person is in the passenger seat of a heli, in which case the M5 splash is huge apparently.

[slim quiver]

If it strikes anywhere on your body it’s a 1 hit kill

[uncut bay]

you can't have a balanced "ecosystem" in this game expecting that everything will be used as intended and naturally counter the blatantly broken air vehicles. Players will always pick the easiest and quickest way of racking up points, so you need to force vehicles into defined roles, not rely on a player to make the right choice

[next onyx]

Direct kills for Lis's rockets is fine.

[latent canyon]

problem with lis is shes actually shit to use against vehicles unless theyre already low

[slim quiver]

And there’s even videos of people still firing m5 recoiless rockets at walls and killing 5 people with 1 rocket

[ruby atlas]

Explosive mgs on the stealth heli makes killing other jets or helis harder
But can kill infantry like an A10 in bf3
Normal mgs are good for fighting other air vehicles
But it takes real skill to even kill small groups of infantry w it

[solid imp]

But that's like anything else, even a stinger doesn't take down a hind for example. It takes multiple hits or multiple launchers. G84 taking multiple hits to kill isn't new.

[mental delta]

I get killed a lot by G84 when I am using tanks but as I can see I am the only one here

[next onyx]

The bombs should be good yes but they shouldn't be as crazy as they are now.

[ruby atlas]

And still gets completely trashed by the scout heli and MAYBE a good SH pilot

I think the stealth heli is good

[strong sequoia]

they are not crazy

[ruby atlas]

And the update overall is pretty good

[half sail]

Where is Phantom Program?!

[next onyx]

No idea.

[half sail]

The numbers Mason, what do they mean!?

[latent canyon]

yes the diffrence being those usually carry enough ammo to take out a vehicle in 1 go with lis even if you hit all your shots on a tank you wont kill it cause by the time you get another rocket that tank will have already got back its health

[next onyx]

Honestly the only changes to that heli should be to the overheat of those cannons and bombs.

[ruby atlas]

Backrooms

[hidden sand]

Honestly I don't think they're that OP, the 30mms are the main issue.

[solid imp]

No, in fact the G84 is a successful counter to heavy ground vehicles because they can't dip out of the area as fast as a heli can. I would be totally fine with:

1. Increase to 3 rockets max but spawn with 2 just like the M5 is 4 max and spawn with 3 until you resupply
2. Introduce reactive armor or a shootdown system to the tanks. Not to the MAV since the armor is already plenty heavy to counter even the max 3 rockets

[slim quiver]

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Normal BF player

[ruby atlas]

Tanks are supposed to not be killed by a small group of infantry

[slim quiver]

This is basically how players play this game

[solid imp]

I mean... small groups of infantry killing tanks goes back to WWII... with the right equipment

[next onyx]

When it works it works.

[ruby atlas]

A normal bf player doesn't buy bf2042

[next onyx]

Yeah none of that.

[lilac dust]

God damn when you get into a condor with a good pilot shit is fun AF. I been destroying choppers all match

[ruby atlas]

I mean like 2 - 3

[solid imp]

Can we all agree that the condor pilots who hover time and again to get annihilated by other aircraft should be banned from ever flying again?

[ruby atlas]

I love condor rendezooks

[slim quiver]

No

[ruby atlas]

Altho rodeozooks are hard af

[lilac dust]

Yessir

[low timber]

Jesus christ i just had a cancerous round, we couldn’t even get out of our uncap as the defenders kept running in, kill everyone in sight and run back in the 10 seconds you can be out if bounds. That timer needs to be reduced to 3 seconds in the opposite teams uncap

[ruby atlas]

Yea

[next onyx]

Definitely marse.

[ruby atlas]

Or people who use aircrafts as a taxi

[solid imp]

I will keep that thing going with my rep torch all game if the pilot doesn't make themselves a big fat target for literally everyone in the air and on the ground

[next onyx]

Lemme guess, You're playing breakthrough?

[mental delta]

I agree with second proposition because as a tank pilot I feel like I receive a lot of G84 rockets, usually more than it should and however, helis in my team seem to get none of these rockets on them

[latent canyon]

then whats the point of playing an at operator if using an operator with the m5 offers better AT capabilities

[slim quiver]

To be fair breakthrough doesn’t have spawn protection so attackers shouldn’t be complaining

[low timber]

Yes, but its been a problem in older titles as well, at least BF4 had uncap spotting.

[slim quiver]

Getting Heli camped on breakthrough in orbital 2 days ago was fun

[ruby atlas]

Play it w tactic

[slim quiver]

I’d spawn an instantly get lifted up in the air

[next onyx]

They should be complaining when defenders can literally run up into their spawn.

[low timber]

What Way says

[slim quiver]

0 spawn protection for defenders

[mental delta]

People just spam G84 on tanks and wildcat but they totally ignore helis, it's frightening because as a tank you can't do anything to dodge the rocket or reduce her damages

[slim quiver]

The difference is

Attackers can sit in our spawn

[ruby atlas]

Bf2042 shpuld be conplaining about the superheint instead of the stealth heli

[slim quiver]

Defenders have a timer

[next onyx]

Defenders can do the same.

[slim quiver]

Attackers don’t have timers

[mental delta]

That's strange this game doesn't have spawn protection, I still wonder if that's on purpose or not

[solid imp]

Which makes no sense... this isn't hard to do if you practice and just keep at it
https://youtu.be/jeToYsblT6s

[slim quiver]

They can fly helicopters literally in our spawn

[low timber]

Out of bound times? Yes they do.

[slim quiver]

Unlimited

[next onyx]

That's a very different issue.

[slim quiver]

It’s the same issue

[latent canyon]

thats cause 1. heli's are way harder to hit and usually dodge and 2. lis doesnt get enough ammo to take it out

[low timber]

Unless you have been playing BC1 for the past 10 hears

[slim quiver]

If we are talking about spawn camping

Defenders can camp attack spawn for 10 seconds with a gray screen

[next onyx]

Helicopters rushing spawn is its own issue.

[slim quiver]

I’m not talking about rushing

[next onyx]

And isn't limited to breakthrough.

[mental delta]

You mean isn't hard to use the G84 or to dodge it ?

[solid imp]

Agreed on ammo, agreed that heli pilots have figured the G84 out... not agreed that helis are inherently harder to hit. I think folks have already gotten lazy about a legitimately challenging weapon to get good with

[slim quiver]

I’m literally talking about after the attack is established

They can continue to fly around spawn

[next onyx]

Alright as its established.

[slim quiver]

And kill you 4-6 times in a row

[nimble hornet]

Liz needs a buff lol 1 extra shot can come in handy 😏

[next onyx]

That's an issue yes.

[slim quiver]

There’s 0 spawn protection

[low timber]

And there should be spawn protection

[slim quiver]

Why is there 0? I have no clue

[mental delta]

Yes but that's why they gave us G84, if people use it only to get free kills by shooting tanks and infantry by spamming rockets on them they should better not play it

[slim quiver]

Why do attackers get 10 seconds? I have no clue

[nimble hornet]

They definitely need spawn protection

[ruby atlas]

You don't use helicopters then
You will literally get targeted by anti airs and stinger-noobs throughout the entirety of the round

[slim quiver]

None of these things should be happening

[next onyx]

Why would a helicopter be at the defenders spawn? No idea unless they're a farmer.

[slim quiver]

Breakthrough is massively unbalanced

[ruby atlas]

Hazard zone kinda worse

[slim quiver]

Because then defenders can’t contest the attackers attacking a point

[solid imp]

Kind of both actually 😄 😄
GOOD heli pilots have solved the G84, but most haven't because most pilots aren't that good lol
But also it's not that hard to hit a target you just have to accept that the G84 isn't an easy-mode weapon.

[next onyx]

During bf5 breakthrough it's really easy to spawn camp in a plane but of course it's fucking stupid because most of the kills come from the point so.

[mental delta]

I play helis and I get targeted sometimes but usually a lot less than when using tanks

[ruby atlas]

Because tanks are an easy target

[next onyx]

If you're talking about how far they are in between points yes.

[slim quiver]

If the attackers have an attack chopper sitting in defenders spawn points, we physically can’t rush to the point in time

[strong sequoia]

If a Heli Pilot is good than hitting it with G84 is very hard.... but the thuing for me is that heli should die from 2 hit's from G84

[low timber]

But this has been a problem all the way to the first BF I’ve played, enemies running in for a kill or even dropping mines.

[hallow sierra]

funny thing is no one is play hazard zone i havent even try it out yet

[ruby atlas]

Tanks are weak in this bf

[next onyx]

That in itself is an issue.

Yeah Marse Even I'm guilty of it.

[strong sequoia]

the small one dies from 1 hit and it is fine

[ruby atlas]

"WHY IS THE CONDOR NOT SPAWNING?!?!"

[slim quiver]

That mode doesn’t matter because the support for it was dropped

[strong sequoia]

the bigger ones should die hit by 2

[nimble hornet]

C5+ caspers drone will destroy tanks and wildcats with ease

[next onyx]

Infact massively so when it comes to stationary AA since I'll keep sniping the handler.

[ruby atlas]

Ye

[mental delta]

Yes I dodged one or two rockets pretty easily as a heli pilot and I am not even decent at it, I just guess people have to learn how to use Lis and not spamming tanks and ground vehicles would he cool

[hallow sierra]

a lesson was learned is dat not every fps game need a br

[low timber]

Hell even in Fjell conquest it was a massive problem when the Brits got spawn trapped and the Germans V-1’d their tiny uncap.

[next onyx]

Oh dear Fjell spawns.

Don't remind how about getting two nine mans in a row.

[slim quiver]

Well they said it was like Tarkov but it simply wasn’t like Tarkov

[next onyx]

"I'll fucking do it again!"

[low timber]

Dunno why Dice ditched the BF4 (maybe even in Hardline?) the uncap spotting.

[next onyx]

"Oh no Way..."

[ruby atlas]

A lesson was learned that hazard zone just was the worst br ever

[latent canyon]

heli's are harder to hit cause they're smaller except for the transport and usually ppl who are flying them are aware of what they're doing and will bug out after the 1st hit add to that theyre way more capable to dodge it then a ground based vehicle. i agree on the skill part but that still means they're harder to hit

[mental delta]

Yes but that's not why G84 has been made for, people asked for counter air vehicles gadget, they got it but don't use it the good way and then will continue to complain they can't destroy helis

[hallow sierra]

i didnt even play tarkov neither

[ruby atlas]

Because bf2042 casuals are kinda stupid

[solid imp]

the horror 😄

[ruby atlas]

I see people trying to kamikaze in a condor

Against infantry

[next onyx]

I had a condor ram into my stealth heli.

I misjudged its vertical climb and got killed.

[solid imp]

I get what you're saying but this is more to the point that the SH is OP. It should NOT have more armor than the little bird for all the capabilities it brings. It should absolutely be a one hit kill from any class of rocket.
The transport is still big and slow so this goes to needing multiple Lis to shoot it down, which is reasonable rock/paper/scissors imho

[ruby atlas]

I hate the condor

[next onyx]

Any time I get in a stealth heli I get either hit by stray 50mm's or get jumped.

[ruby atlas]

Mix between
"Bullshit vehicle"
And
"Flying taxi"

[mental delta]

That sucks

[next onyx]

Transport helis need their 50MM nerfed to be anti vehicle only.

[ruby atlas]

The 50MM can outdamage an anti air

[hallow sierra]

is there a way to send clips here

[ruby atlas]

Needs a nerf

[low timber]

Also, why is the exposed attacker uncap spawn in a clear view for defender snipers?

[next onyx]

Oh yeah those 30mm's got buffed.

On the wildcat.

[solid imp]

Feels like everyone forgets that smoke exists 🙂
Bring the smoke launcher and proxy sensor as Paik and your favorite primary to the party.
(doesn't counter the heli argument lol... oops)

[ruby atlas]

You can literally farm people in their spawn if you have a pilot and gunner with more than 10 iq

[strong sequoia]

do yiou teammate see what Paik sees?

[low timber]

So every time you spawn in the uncap you have to waste your smoke so you won’t get sniped the instant you spawn in?

[hallow sierra]

nope

i think

[solid imp]

I thought they got map spotted but def not 3d spotted

[low timber]

What?

[solid imp]

not highlighted and outlined for everyone, just a dot on the map I think

[strong sequoia]

exactlly so there is a liitle benefit of it unsless you have a sensor to throw

[low timber]

How did getting insta killed from spawning go to spotting?

[solid imp]

You get a lot of kill assists from using the EGM scanner as Paik. That makes no sense unless they show up at least as a dot on the map for the team

[next onyx]

Just throw busted ass motion balls.

[strong sequoia]

For now i would like to have a nerf on K30 (dmg lowered)

[low timber]

And range, things a fricking sniper rifle at times

[glass wyvern]

my challenges missions of weeks in progress were reset today during my first game so I start again. and I noticed that it was the same for my weapons, equipment and vehicles. Is the problem known? The stats will come back? Because it took me forever to destroy vehicles with fighter jets and my progress bar is at 0/30 again

[solid imp]

Not sure it's wasting smoke if it gets you to the objective or at least closer and someone puts a beacon down for next spawn in.

[tame cobalt]

Kinda looks like star wars original trilogy empire aesthetic to me

Specially the helmet

[low timber]

It doesn’t get you to objective, it gets you not killed the moment you get your characters controls.

[next onyx]

The thing needs actual recoil.

Not straight vertical.

Oh yeah short barrel saiga 12K is dumb.

[solid imp]

potato tomato lol
If you're the only one trying to advance and using more than just bullets to accomplish that there's more than just attacker spawn design in question

[low timber]

Please stop answering to me, I have no idea anymore what you’re trying to say.

[solid imp]

Have some coffee, gets some rounds in

[low timber]

What’s dumb about it?

Didn’t they fix it?

[latent canyon]

i hate that thing almost as much as sundance they should remove the extended mag imo

[mental delta]

They should remove the entire gun

[sweet barn]

imagine getting killed by a shotgun

[strong sequoia]

Confirmed spotted enemys as Paik showing on minimap

[next onyx]

Nah it just fires so quickly.

[low timber]

It is a short barrel

[next onyx]

I should get some TTK stats.

Yeah.

Thing is I don't have much of a problem with the short barrel but on that gun it's a straight bonus.

[low timber]

Previously it didn’t do anything else but reduce the velocity

[next onyx]

Yeah, It's got more spread now but that kinda works for it.

So it initially kills in 200 MS alright.

Bah wish symptic updated those stats.

[strong sequoia]

ahhh and one thing i wanted to add to the G84... i fucking love destroy heli's with it 🙂 I hate helis and love to destroy them 🙂

[latent canyon]

wished they also removed the rpm nerf from the extended barrels its useless aside from snipers and dmr's

[next onyx]

It's only good on semis.

And general rifles.

Would be good if we got a heavy barrel option for other guns.

Buffed velocity, Increased vertical recoil, Less spread.

[hexed mango]

you, yes

[mental delta]

🚔 🚔

[hexed mango]

[obsidian elk]

Chat I have an interesting question for you

Or at least, it would be interesting to read your answers to my question

[mental delta]

Idk why people play this shitty game it's raging and make you suffer every time you launch it

[hallow sierra]

the sky is blue?

[hexed mango]

ok

[hallow sierra]

is dat your question

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[obsidian elk]

So, I really enjoy the game obviously. But I also enjoy pretty much every single aspect of it. Specialists, vehicles, capturing points, teamwork, pushing, defending, etc.

I really like the voice acting and the variety of voice lines

[hexed mango]

ok

[obsidian elk]

I want to like the jets but they're just too weak

[hexed mango]

yeah jets are sad

[obsidian elk]

So my question is, do you guys think I would like other Battlefield games

and IF SO:

which ones?

[ashen wadi]

Why play Jets when you can just chase helicopters through the sky as Sundance /s

[hexed mango]

probably BF1 or V

[obsidian elk]

For context, I did like 1942 when I was a little kid

[mental delta]

I was talking about Clash Royale bro...

[hexed mango]

vehicles (specially air) are fun

[hexed mango]

exactly, skill issue

[obsidian elk]

I see

What are your thoughts on BF3/4?

[torpid shuttle]

Can I lvl battlepass from solo/coop AOW?

[obsidian elk]

I think so

[mental delta]

I stopped playing that shit in 2016 and my skills were in facts, nonexistant

[torpid shuttle]

👍

[mental delta]

But the game is trash for sure though

[hexed mango]

vehicle combat similar to this one

[hexed mango]

only the xp challenge

[obsidian elk]

You might want to confirm just in case because I'm not 100% certain you can level BP through bots

[obsidian elk]

Yeah that explains my uncertainty. You can sort of level BP through bots

[mental delta]

BF3 is the best, BF4 is the second better

[obsidian elk]

but not really

[obsidian elk]

I see...

[torpid shuttle]

BF2 is KING

[hexed mango]

for vehicles tho??

[ruby atlas]

BF3 and 4 better

[hexed mango]

they kinda suffer the same with jets

[lilac dust]

Am I missing something with the scar.... Does it have lower ttk with M&K ? Doesn't feel as strong as M5 on controller

[torpid shuttle]

No bot support :(((

[hexed mango]

i honestly dislike BF4 after replaying it

[low timber]

Didn’t know it increases spread.

[obsidian elk]

BF3 looks fun but it seems to lack a lot of voices compared to 2042

[ruby atlas]

Nobody plays bot matches in a multiplayer game

[obsidian elk]

I like pinging and calling stuff out and whatnot

[torpid shuttle]

Me

[obsidian elk]

and I like when my character reacts to directional fire inside a vehicle

[hexed mango]

oh if you want voices BF1 and V are 100% it

[ruby atlas]

BF2042 but lacks of Battlefield

[hexed mango]

V probably more

[ruby atlas]

And why?

[obsidian elk]

I'll take a look, thanks Morber

[hexed mango]

you lack life

[mental delta]

I loved BF3 vehicles, Armored Kill gave us really good additional vehicles

[obsidian elk]

[obsidian elk]

Coming from a vampire?

[hexed mango]

yeah you’re not wrong

[torpid shuttle]

That's why I say BF2 is KING

[hexed mango]

especially coming from a vampire

[obsidian elk]

LOL

Good point

[hexed mango]

indeed

[obsidian elk]

As a fellow vampire I agree

[hexed mango]

[edgy oriole]

get off discord you at a baseball game

[obsidian elk]

Do you guys think the Team Commander system will ever return to the series, along with the commander powers like airstrikes etc.?

[mental delta]

What do you mean by voices ?

[edgy oriole]

I want bfv reinforcements to be a permanent thing

[mental delta]

If you're talking about voice lines you can literally find dozen of minutes of hidden dialogues for this game on YouTube

[hexed mango]

not yet

game starts at 1:10 PST

i just woke up

[obsidian elk]

Just the abundance of voice lines in general.

Pinging

Calling for attacking/defending objectives

Calling for ammo/hp

Directional hit dialogue in vehicle

Slamming into terrain in vehicle

etc.

[hexed mango]

i love it when i shoot someone and then someone behind me says nice shooting and my specialists name

[obsidian elk]

I like the variety in 2042

[mental delta]

The game has a voice line for each of those actions so I don't get it

[ashen wadi]

I think most other BFs lack voices compared to 2042 which tried to sell individuality in it's goofy character lineup

[obsidian elk]

I've experienced this and it's super cool, really underrated aspect of the game

[hexed mango]

also, petting the ranger

you can pet your ranger, do i need to say more?

[mental delta]

I was talking about BF3 lol

[obsidian elk]

The depth of voice interactions

are so good

in 2042

[hexed mango]

i wasnt lol

[obsidian elk]

Wait what

I never noticed that

[hexed mango]

yeah

[mental delta]

Yes I see that lmao

[obsidian elk]

I noticed an interaction prompt with an enemy ranger when I was super close to it but I didn't survive long enough to actually read what it was

[hexed mango]

if you hold interact (E on pc) on your own ranger for like 5 seconds there is an animation

[obsidian elk]

Does this mean you can pet enemy rangers or was it a different interaction?

[hexed mango]

there’s no prompt for this one

[obsidian elk]

Bf3? If so, I'll definitely consider it more

[hexed mango]

its a secret

[obsidian elk]

I see

So what was the prompt I saw with the enemy ranger

[hexed mango]

this is me petting mine

[obsidian elk]

It was for like 0.5 sec before I went down

Do you think someone put a C5 on it or something

[hexed mango]

lowkey the animation is so goated

[obsidian elk]

I really like the ultimate edition ranger

looks sleek and futuristic and just badass

[hexed mango]

maybe, ive never gotten that close to an enemy ranger lol

[obsidian elk]

I feel like my e-peen is bigger for having the unique ranger

[hexed mango]

lol

same

[obsidian elk]

Might be a disable interaction

[hexed mango]

what if you could stab it close up and damage the wiring

[obsidian elk]

Lol, it would be cool

[hexed mango]

indeed

[obsidian elk]

If you replaced "Morb" in "Morbius" with "Morb" would it take on a different meaning or nah

[ruby atlas]

I don't like the balance of bf 2042, I don't like the bugs of bf 2042, I don't like the gameplay of bf 2042, I don't like the maps of bf 2042
|| I like the helicopters tho ||

[hexed mango]

oh my god.. youve unlocked a new realkty

[obsidian elk]

Lmao

[hexed mango]

how do you like the helos but not the balance

[ruby atlas]

Because the helis are the only things that are balanced (except for the superheint)

The sh is bullshit

[mental delta]

Yes

[hexed mango]

also ima be honest, at this point in 2042 most the apparent bugs ive faced besides nvidia crashes are things that exist in other bf games

[obsidian elk]

The game feels well balanced to me. There are only obvious outliers, which is a good thing because they make it clear what really needs to be fixed.

Buff jets

Nerf heli 50mm cannon

Nerf k30

(Maybe nerf BSM?)

Buff Dozer

Buff tanks

It's honestly not that big of a list

compared to shit like League of Legends

and Overwatch

[hexed mango]

Bozer beeds a buff i a bagree

[ruby atlas]

Have you ever seen 2 tank shots against a helicopters just not connecting in another bf game??

[obsidian elk]

🅱️ozer

[hexed mango]

yes

[obsidian elk]

Yes

This is connection based

Ghost hits are in EVERY fps game

[ruby atlas]

Show me a clip

[ashen wadi]

Only bug I get often is an animation glitch after parachuting out of aircraft and my animation locking on sprint.

Nothing major

[hexed mango]

yeah cause its a fucking tank

[obsidian elk]

It's ghost hit/shot registration/netcode

[obsidian elk]

Another thing too though is the variety

[hexed mango]

yeah i get thjs but switching to my secondary and back fixes it

[ruby atlas]

And that's a problem in bf 2042

[obsidian elk]

2042 has thousands of voice lines because of how many operators there are

In BF3 for example, I don't want to hear the same voice every time

If different factions have different voices, that would help

[obsidian elk]

I didn't say it isn't.

[ruby atlas]

If i hit a helicopter with a tank, and the shot actually explodes, it makes no sense that the helicopter just continues to fly

[obsidian elk]

As spoken, ghost hits are in every FPS game ever.

And it gets worse the worse your connection is/the servers are.

[ruby atlas]

And the hit detection worked before the sh buff

[white lynx]

Do you guys think getting the year 1 pass is worth it

[obsidian elk]

It does make sense, it's netcode related. It doesn't make sense to you because you don't know why it's happening.

It's understandable that seeing something happen visually but not have any affect, makes you feel robbed. However, you're only seeing that happen on your screen, the server didn't agree with what happened. This often occurs when the server does not take a "favor the shooter" approach to combat.

[obsidian elk]

Absolutely

I'd do it for the four battle passes and four operators alone

all the extra cosmetics and doodads are just icing on the cake

It's definitely worth it

IMO.

[ruby atlas]

Shots fired by vehicles are not client side
If you have a bad connection, the shot will just Phase through the opponent

[mental delta]

What do you mean

[obsidian elk]

I elaborated

[hexed mango]

the casper skin in the bp 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[obsidian elk]

He looks spec ops as fuck

I love it

[white lynx]

I think if my friends get the game I’ll get it

[ruby atlas]

And I'm not the only one who experiences this

[obsidian elk]

but I took it off because I actually really love seeing him smile

[hexed mango]

and the angel one

[obsidian elk]

It's just such a wholesome smile

[hexed mango]

lol

[obsidian elk]

I love his personality

[hexed mango]

hes a funny lad

[obsidian elk]

but I'll put the skin back on at some point

depends on my mood tbh

[mental delta]

Ok ?

[ruby atlas]

People with a ping of 22 and below still encounter these ghost hits

[obsidian elk]

It's just fun to have choices

A lot of people stick to one skin they like and that's that for them

but I like variety

[hexed mango]

lol i never really played angel
more of a Rao/Mackay guy myself

[ashen wadi]

I'm still after Irish's tier 1 skin.

[obsidian elk]

You're correct

[ashen wadi]

But sooo many grenades to poof >_>

[obsidian elk]

in those cases it's a server issue

[hexed mango]

exposure makes it easy

[ruby atlas]

Yea

[obsidian elk]

Bad connection to the server can simply exacerbate ghost hits/bad shot registration

it is not the sole cause of it

[obsidian elk]

Exposure staircase, put the defense system down

farm enemy grenades.

ez.

[ruby atlas]

Btw
Buff attack helis n jets

[obsidian elk]

[ashen wadi]

Sure is, which is why there are at least 3 Irish per choke point. Becomes a contest XD

[obsidian elk]

Here

for your t1

Narrator: he didn't put the defense system down yet....

RIP @ashen wadi

[grizzled whale]

bruh

i just hit a sick 8 man crossbow clip

BUT MY SHADOWPLAY RANDOMLY DECIDES TO TURN OFF